/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

/#/ is declining.

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*

>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

numberot tally fags were the niji livers themselves

>>19603348
>mfw I am a regular of the most influential thread in /vt/

FIVE STAGES OF COPE
DENIAL
>it's fake, it's an edit, it didn't happen!
ANGER
>Holobronies making drama out of a nothing burger again, pathetic!
BARGANING
>It's not shit talking, it's literally the truth!
DEFLECTION
>but the viewership, the revenue, the l2d, the 3D! Holos must shit talk on Niji behind their backs too!
ACCEPTANCE
>it's totally normal for them to shit talk Holos, nothing to see here...

>>19603380
Hey man

>Why does Holo put up a walled garden around themselves
Well as you can see the rest of the EN vtuber scene, even from other big corpos, is an absolute hellscape of bullshit and faggots.

Apologize to Omega

I'm sorry to hear that some of the resident Nijicopers in this thread was actual livers, i guess that explains a lot.

>>19603569
I am half convinced the walled garden shitposting was done by fiana too

>>19603569
Nobody criticized Hololive for that anyway except Nijifags who were butthurt over being denied opportunities to leech.

>>19603592

>>19603348
>Bleeding my eye translate text from a 4 POV stream
>Nijinigger said it fake cuz they said so
Tell me Nijisis, what can i do to make you believe me?

>>19603673
Karma is real

>>19603348
I could never imagine my oshi saying shit like this.

gay op

>>19603585
Hey Vox, you absolute faggot, if you are hear what do you think of Nipplegate? Also, when are you going to work Nipple torture into your streams. Imagine the superchats from all the thirsty chink bugs that watch you.

>Kiara genuinely likes Pomu
>Pomu plays nice on twitter
>behind the scenes Pomu is saying "THIS IS WAR!!"
What a fucking two faced cunt

>>19603380
hey man

How will this affect NijiEN's numbers?

Here you go anons

>Spam board for weeks on end attacking Rushia and saying it's the end of Hololive
>Nijis get exposed for seething over not being in Hololive
>Immediate concerted damage control efforts by nijifags

>>19603870
it wont, maybe a very very few handful of people that watch both might see it as a slight and stop watching Nijis but no where near enough to make a dent

>>19603881
>LO AND BEHOLD
THE FUBUKI OF NIJIEN

>>19603348
You know if you really wanted to spread this, you would post it on 5ch with translations.

>>19603870
Not at all. Their fans already buy the fake narrative. Holofans never liked them. This is a nothingburger and the only thing that will happen is an internal regulation on discord usage.

So how far a we from "Nothingburger" level of yab?

>>19603904
yea I find it funny when they unironically defending vox. the number one vtuber for shitting on hololive.

>>19603989

I never watched NijiEN, but if any corpo chuuba is reading these threads then you honestly need to gtfo asap. Get your managers/friend/etc collect advices/suggestions if you somehow have to.
God helps your soul if any of you have tried to engage sincerely with the schizos here

>>19603974
But the fans and clippers will be ruthless.

>>19603974
and the internal ban between EN branches.

>>19603989
Contained. There's enough doubt to claim 'fake' that enough people will buy it, but you can bet your ass HoloEN management is going to be asking the talents if they reallllllyyyyyy want to collab with NijiEN given they seem rather...bitter towards them.

>>19604108
Omega be like: See? You girls see why I try to stop you?

>>19603968
Please do, I'm at work right now. The real VOD might get edited and every nijinig would be in full DMG control mode denying it

>>19603989
welp, you have all the army and talents calling it fake

>>19603989
not trending on tw*tter = nothing

>>19603974
audience for their girls is like 50%+ holofags. i expect a few hundred drop in nijifemale numbers

>>19602944
Thats a different timestamp. Petra leaked discord a couple of times in that stream. Here is the screenshot with timestamp 5:55 visible in the youtube bar. Why is the youtube bar cut on your screenshot?

>>19604213
it's contained

>>19603870
Honestly? Nothing. Both fanbases are already hating each other from the beginning and already brainwashed into the brands of either while dismissing the later (nijiEN fanbase doesn't pop up from nowhere, there certainly are holoen converts). This is just dropping the pretext of being nice.

If anything I'm not surprised something like this hasn't happened more often on jp like with Pekora lurking 5ch screenshot or Ibrahim being a holoan in his PL.

>>19604104
If this picks up steam. That this happened is fact on 4chan but if they shill hard enough they can keep it here. I would like these people to receive correction and to be cold shouldered permanently from Cover(except Mysta and Millie) but I would rather not have the drama. I'm sick of all the drama.

>>19601574
Apparently 5ch knows now.

>Lamy 18k Elden Ring
That's pretty good, right?

I would like to shout out the regulars in this thread:
> Reimu
> Finana
> Petra
> Pomu
> Vox
> Fulgur
The people mentioned above makes this thread more exciting. Thank you so much for your participation.

>>19603968
Someone already did

>>19604288
Because they're trying to craft a counter-rrat.
Of course you knew that when you posted it, but some people really do need that to be pointed right out.

>>19603848
Being competitive doesn't mean you dislike the people you're competing with. The word rival exists for a reason.

>>19604395
she peaked at 20k anon, that's impressive

>>19603726
You could have tried not making a blurry fake image in the first place.

>>19603348
The first [...] is "earn" (as in, money)

>>19603592
https://twitter.com/Haertya1/status/1500028283328827397

>>19604505
i can guarantee you Kiara does not see Pomu as a rival, just a friend that works at a different company
but i guess the tribal mentality is too strong in some people to even comprehend not everyone is like them

>>19603726
Some of them are calling the transcribe as ESL translation.

>>19604359
>cold shouldered permanently from Cover
well they already are, thats why its a nothing burger. unless holostars EN fails and cover will have to leech from luxiem, then that would be awkward

>>19604505
Fuck off Pomu, you can't save face anymore.

>>19604288
>Thats a different timestamp
Yea found this on another thread

>>19604896
>Isreal
What is with thid 2022? We are jumping from yabe to yabe

>>19604896
>She didn't fix the problem immediately after the first time or stop using discord during a livestream.
This yab could have been prevented.

>>19604316
they obviously have enough decency to keep it to themselves unlike spiteful EN scum

Even if this drama blows over, the thing I will forever remember is that some NijiENs are literal scumbags. I just dislike people who talks behind others.

>>19604896
KEK
EVEN IN THEIR DAMAGE CONTROL THEY'RE FAGGOTS.

>>19604697
kek

>>19604697

You know I've heard nothing but good things about pomu since pre debut and I just felt compelled to never watch. My esper powers were right again.

>>19604896
i just realized that channel is called "vent"
literally a channel to let out seethe

>>19604435
We have nearly 70 IPS per thread, and these fuckers make up for nearly 10% of these IPs???
NIJIEN, I KNEEL!

>>19603848
>>19604505
Wait... what did I miss?

>>19604995
>council schizo was a nijiEN
imagine, the EN Sio

>>19604558
Then give me your "REAL" image then. Unlike Holobronies, you guys actually watch stream right? Go on, defend your liver!

>>19604316
>Both fanbases are already hating each other from the beginning
I think this board has colored your perception too much. Outside of 4ch the mainstream masses YT/Reddit/Twitter are much less tribalistic and most normie fans would rather have a "we are all just one big happy vtuber family and everybody is friends with each other" atmosphere. And with most of HoloENs fans (and NijiENs of course, for that matter) being just newfag ironic weebs, they aren't "plugged in" to forum grudges or ancient histories and don't even know why they're supposed to "hate" the [other company]

MARRY ME REIMU AAAAAIIIEEEEEE

>>19603348
Kek, I guess this should be added somehow to Nijicope list.
Anyway good streams for numbers today, 100k miko?

>>19605042
>i just realized that channel is called "vent"
>literally a channel to let out seethe
lmao, there's no way they aren't going to get scolded
Time to rev up those JP VPNs and spam them on 5ch

>>19605042
>seethe channel
>it's about hololive
Anycolor needs to sue Cover for not paying rent.

>>19604896
They're not on a company server. On the top screenshot it shows a non-nijisanji logo server selected.

>>19605111
I'm glad you asked

NIIJCOEP LIST
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>percentages
>ratio
>tournaments don't count
>outfit reveals don't count
>relays don't count
>fortune telling
>volume
>averages
>total CCV during primetime
>trailers are ads
>Google trends
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>stop picking on midgets! fight someone your own size!
>pit Vshojo against HoloEN when you're losing
>pit HoloEN against HoloJP when you're losing
>pit former Holo against HoloJP when you're losing
>Holobubble is bursting
>foreign buff/global audience bad, muh local Nips good
>YouTube Japan trends
>Apex will only get more popular from now on!
>flexible creative freedom
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate
>Cover uses bots
>honorary Niji
>Most vtubers are Nijisanji like and Nijisanji is part of greater vtuber community
>Nijisanji fans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement
>Sponsorships are retarded
>Hololive's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab
>Koshien is not an event
>Nijisanji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market
>pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count
>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side
>Hololive invented unicorns
>watchalongs are POVs
>Nijisanji isn't a corporation, it's a family
>each Twitch viewer is equivalent to about 1.5 Youtube viewers because Selen flopped her first Twitch stream and Selen never flops
>by promoting the main channel they create more general Nijisanji fans which will then trickle down to the smaller livers down the line
>subs to growth ratio
>subs to SC ratio
>*insert delusion about Selen here*
>VOD views don't count
>everything that brings a big audience is a special event
>Niji is mainstream in JP, which is more important than Hololive's international dominance
>Holo's main channel kneels to Niji main channel
>gen 3 should be left alone so Nijis can be properly compared to Holos
>Square Enix doesn't count
>combined peak CCV
>quality numbers
>dead cat bounce
>Holo merch sells out quick only because of scalpers
>20 Holo merch for fake scarcity
>Holocope list
>Hololive is only popular because of chink clippers
>68% of the top 50 vtubers is bad
>rightful sovereignty
>combined peak CCV from different times
>Nijisanji has morals
>bug in the algorithm
>DLC is a gimmick
>Nijisanji has a better following than Hololive in the west
>there are no Nijifans here, only falseflaggers trying to make Nijifans look bad
>views don't matter
>only the west speaks english
>look at the Twitter interaction
>fake numbers
>Pokemon doesn't count
>blatant lies
>Luxiem is five Mystas
>moral victory
>Nijifans will watch a stream and Holofans will watch 3-4 so the Niji refresh rate is higher
>Gacha rolling streams doesn't count
>Nijifans tend to interact with the streams "properly"
>Nijisanji shilling makes games like Genshin successful in Japan
>Nijisanji keeps failing but that's okay because they are rich
>fuck deadsubs, what matters is dedication
>having shit mics pre-debut is tradition
>Cover paid off the government to come down hard on their rivals
>Number of merch determines popularity, not any other metric
>>Luxiem/Noctyx earn as much as Holo JP

>Anon, how does it feel to live rent free in their heads, and to have a dedicated vent channel in their discord because of your shitposting?

>>19605119
Go for it. Every nijifag needs to be driven out in shame.

>They need a #vent channel
Vent channels are cringe, the entire concept is that you complain and act like a bitch and everyone has to pretend it never happened later. It dissuades people from sharing their troubles anywhere other than the vent hugbox which is toxic in itself.

>>19605143
i feel like you should have an honorary marking to signify an confirmed cope from a nijiliver

>>19605080
Thing is, this drama would be kept forever on the internet. People may not know it now, but they will eventually will. It's not like it matters now, but it'll affect the perception of fans later on. Most people are unityfags, they just watch whatever they want.

>>19605228
it sounds like gay hippie shit to me

I see some vtuber anti twitters are starting to retweet that sheep twitter who posted the leaks on twitter.

>>19605144
IT FEELS PRETTY FUCKING GOOD NGL

sorry for the inconvenience
is this better to read?

【Hololive, list of pacifiers and meanies】

All Shitenous have blue eyes Toki no Sora plastic surgery to change eye colour from brown to blue.

Tsukino Mito’s “Oruyanke!” Mononobe Alice’s ‘JK jai!’ Fubuki’s mascot character ‘Oruyanke’, who has the habit of saying ‘Kitsune jai!’ to take a crack at it.

Niji-sanji Gamers Hololive Gamers (concurrently Fubuki)

Shiina Yuika is a Nijisanji Resistance Aqua named herself the Hololive Resistance and used the story of blowing up their headquarters in MinecraftThis story also appeared in the name of the project’s social game technique.

Mincraft shared mackerel Fubuki starts in creative mode

Suspended for Niji Server appeasement holo saba, new server started a few days later with management control.

Make fun of Iwanaga CCO Hololive CEO Tanigo gets involved immidiately, face-collapsing and spewing the story in external collaborations.

Niji Sanji Gakuen Hololive Gakuen collaboration

Yashiro Kizuku’s favorite phrase ‘rikai rikai’ Holo cracked it down and it became popular amongst Bilibili listeners.

SEKIRO 12-hour endurance collaboration Aqua endures 12 hours of SEKIRO the next day

Shiina Yuika’s WiiFit weight is revealed Aqua clips it and then erases it after a million-view anniversary broadcast of the clipping.

Shizuka Rin’s voice theatre collaboration Hololive voice theatre collaboration shortly afterwards.

Nijisanji Mascots (collaboration in which the individual dubbed and conversed with their respective mascot characters) – collaboration in flight with Hololive Mascots (who have never even been voiced).

Nijisanji starts overseas auditions Hololive starts overseas auditions

Niji-sanji male unit VOIZ ends in failure Holostars announced (same illustrater as Chaika, Kagami Hayato) have them collaborate with Nijisanji.

Gibara gets a GTA buzz Aqua plays it immediately

Sasaki Saku plays Siren Okayu immediately plays it.

Suzuhara Ruru becomes the talk of the town in Makai Mura Korone immediately plays it.

Lise’s Eryi’s Action exceeded 10,000 Zion’s action on Elyi the next day.

UNO becomes popular in Niji Sanji UNO is taken down

Gibara’s project to produce a separate attribute production project with the nijisanji as the characters of THE IDOLM@STER CINDERELLA GIRLS Hoshimachi Suisei takes a crack at it.

Roboko and Shion play the course of the Nijisanji livers in Mario Maker and use their standing pictures in the thumbnails without permission.

Pekora funnels other company’s rivals by saying in a distribution that ‘no company has permission to distribute Yu-Gi-Oh’ immediately debunked by Shibuya Hajime.

Nenemori’s drawings were trebly copied and sold as birthday goods (and also trebly copied and sold as goods on the inside of the cover).

Niji EN male members had a huge success auditions for Holo EN male members begin.

unrelated to the drama, for the anon that was listing the post 3d live 10pm slot shit, koyo said she wanted to play VS on the new map for that one, but i'd wait until frame is up

>>19604288
Niji counter rrats. They know it’s real and they’re boned.

The yab thread is going really fast lmao

>>19605240
>Most people are unityfags, they just watch whatever they want.
sure if you're talking about vtuber fans in general. hololive fans are self-contained and watch hololive exclusively. they will not leave the box. it's obvious when they collab with someone outside of the company and doesn't have a pov up.

Never a dull moment these past few months

vox and that other guy dabbing on council is just whatever but its quite cringe to see the actual confirmed holorejects (shu finana pomu) seethe and cope so much

So Finana was councilschizo all along? Jelly that they debuted after her but have bigger numbers?

>>19605468
half of this are literally "they played the same game!" or "they looked at us funny" and the other half are actual rrats, what is this shit

>>19605553
big words from the worst of her generation and not even by a small margin either

>>19605144
It feels good. Having my shitty opinions taken seriously by internet celebrities charges up the dopamine in my body.

>>19605468
I hate this and I didn't even read it

>>19605481

holobronies don't actually watch their own streams so

>>19605548
Man, I hope this lights a fire under Council's ass since we know Mumei, Fauna, and Kronii actually come here.

Meanwhile IRyS is still shitting on Luca's viewership even after she dropped some after the epic victory against Godrick.

>>19605491
Seethe more, vox

>>19605491
Looking at the drama on reddit, some users were still asking what Niji is LMAO?

>>19605577
Japanese nijifags are the original reason they got dubbed nijinigs in the first place

>>19605468
tl;dr
happy for you or sorry that happened

>>19605642
They do? But yeah I hope this makes them work harder to get to Myth's level

>>19605612
Fuck you, I'm watching IRyS after she managed to beat Godrick going ham. Defense? NAH ROLL RIGHT INTO HIM AND SLASH HIM UP!

Nothing new, it is a nijimale tradition to shit on hololive

>>19605491
cope

>>19605468
Nice blog retard

>>19604108
The problem is though that it'll be easy to spin it as bitterness towards Cover rather than bitterness towards the talents themselves. And Cover itself is hardly the most popular company internally with EN.

Mori just unfollowed vox.
HoloEN knows.

>>19605548
Yeah Vox actually beaten Holo SC. The other looks bitter.

>>19604896
Goddammit petra you dumb bitch

>>19605612
Nice try nijinigger

>>19603348
Nijisanji might as well embrace the controversy

>>19603348
>Mysta didn't join the conversation and talks about his own depression instead
I'll give him a pity sub for that

Chinesemaple locking the reddit thread while the rushia threads stay open, really makes you think.

>>19605481
jesas

wait, the reason Vox didn't reply to Fubuki when she replyed him?
hmm

>>19605725
was she following Vox before? I know shes liked tweets at least.

>>19605652
I doubt anything major will happen at least for the viewers. but holo internal will show this to the girls and ask are these the people you want to collab with. so EN cross-company percentage went from 1% to almost impossible at this point.
basically: chat shit, get banged

>>19605821
No shit. You only let people peddle rrats when they aren't real.

>>19605612
Hi finana. Try leeching more on the bigger livers so you can have a chance to be relevant.

>>19605725
Well she pretty much browsed this place in this particular time last lean drama.

>>19605841
She follows everyone in NijiEN.

>>19605841
Yes. https://twitter.com/Vox_Akuma/followers_you_follow she's gone.

Nijis running defense are not really improving things.

So, the most deluded remarks I've seen come out of this are that people are suddenly going to stop giving money to the Nijis because of this incident. As if people are going to say "Well I liked them before but they shit on Holo so you know what, I'm not gonna support them anymore." Why the fuck do you think we're watching Niji instead of Holo in the first place?

So yeah, this will have no impact on Niji numbers at all. The only thing it will do is make it even more impossible to use /vt/.

Holy shit Mori actually unfollowed Vox

https://twitter.com/Vox_Akuma/followers_you_follow

>>19605725
>Mori just unfollowed vox.
prove it

>>19605821
Because he is doing damange control

>>19605481
>NijiEN on overdrive
>Global on overdrive
What are they talking about?

DEFLECT DEFLECT DEFLECT

>>19605725
Mori cares about Hololive?

Holy shit nijiniggers you pulled off the impossible

>>19605866
>>19605886
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>19605725
>Its true
Kek no more collab

>>19605719
Anon, NijiEN fags are already bitter AF ex holo-fags for the most part.

>>19605920
Global isnt even in overdrive, theres streams on, and a bit of side talk of Nijidiscord shit. idk about NijiEN general i dont watch them lmao

>>19605821
Chink maple doing damage control for glorious China.

>>19605491
>hololive fans are self-contained and watch hololive exclusively
Good. Hololive delivers the product I want.

>>19605821
They wan to get into StarsEN good graces

Despite the yab being particularly spicy, I don't think this one is going to blow up like Lauren/Nene's yab outside of /vt/.
For one, it's NijiEN which doesn't really have much anti other than the usual chuuba anti. HoloEN fans are surprisingly well behaved on twitter believe it or not (at least relative to the other parties) and the chinks viewerbase will probably be successful in running damage control for them.
If anything, the most that would suffer would be the threads now that shitposters can pretend to post tribal stuff as NijiEN member in hope to get a bunch of t. Vox replies

>>19605642
>Knows they're bitter behind the scenes
>Bans EN from collabing with NijiEN
>Releases proof of such bitterness
>Council sees that shit
>Council streaming consistency, and hard incline arc begins
I WAS WRONG ABOUT YOU. I KNEEL OMEGA!

>>19605890
Fucking Kek

I don't get it. Why are people getting mad at this?
It's not like they're insulting Hololive or anything.

>>19603348
Surprise! Niji's are just like their fans.

Is this not the real numbers thread?

>>19605143
>Nijisanji isn't a corporation, it's a family
This is the one that gets me the most. How can anyone in their right mind claim that it's any less corporate than Hololive, especially with their "throw shit at a wall and see what sticks" strategy?

>>19605821
He defended Artia when the clip spread of her being proud of taking part of a youth ccp harassment campaign. ChineseMaple literally said the translations were wrong and then ignored everyone calling him out for his bullshit.

vox has no damage tho
cause there are too many holocorns in holoEN XD

>>19605924
For the first time she did something good.

>>19605890
>It's just something people do
Fucking hell man, at least remove your flair..

>>19606018
>I don't think this one is going to blow up
Depends if NijiEN can bribe these guys fast enough to not report in it

>>19605891
Agreed, ex-holofags that switched to NijiEN are just gonna go BASED BASED BASED and double-down, and people who watched HoloEN only are going to....continue to do just that. All this does is make the fanbase shitposting wars worse(or better) and backed by the NijiEN Talents.
The absolute state of /vt/.

>>19606072
>>Nijisanji isn't a corporation, it's a family
no one said that. i only heard the Hololive family thing

>>19606031
If this lights a fire under Council's asses out of SPITE, I will KNEEL to NijiEN.

>>19605821
not surprised

>>19605895
kek she's seething cause they're shitting on her delayed stream

Fucking /vt/, this is a nothing burger just like the Rushia and Lauren leaks.

>>19605821
Chinesemaple allowed all hate threads on Hololive during the Taiwan arc but banned anyone for posting threads about Roa/Meiro.

>>19605886

Hey may be this will get council fire up. I would if i was council to prove a point.

>most people watching Lamy's Elden Ring when both Irys and Lui are far better at the game than her
People are retarded and will watch the worst streams

>>19606031
I apologize for everything Omega. You knew stuff we didn't and were just trying to protect the talents that we love.

>>19606154
But it feels good to know actual Niji "livers" are seething over us.

>>19606154
Free marketing

>>19605725

the absolute state of /vt/ it just gets worse and worse as the scene develops more and more. I cant wait until a couple years down the road and this place is quality matches the rest of the website, maybe we will get /vtg/ by then

>>19605725
so why didn't she unfollow Connor who publicly dissed her coworkers and possibly herself?

>>19603348
Literally, actually /here/. At the present moment.

>>19605725
AHAHAHA MORI ARE YOU /HERE/?!!

>>19606269
>this will get council fire up
it wont

>>19606271
I don't know if you are watching IRyS stream but its a total fever dream. She isn't exactly good and is playing completely insane, yet its somehow working. I love this girl, lol.

nothingburger

If they are they better learn to turn off their discords while streaming

why is gen5 schizo trying to shit on lamy now of all times, is he secretly a liver

>>19606402
Hey at least she turned on the streamer mode.

>>19606329
business competition

>>19606402
anon... i

>>19603348
I just woke up and WTF!!?? IS THIS REAL? SOURCE???

https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/t74kzi

>>19606483
It's fake.

>>19606413
>>19606335

>>19606329
Connor is an employee of Kadokawa

>>19606402
>different timestamps
>different screen position
deflect harder

>>19606271
I'm not sure how to break this to you but most people watch streams because they like the streamer.

>>19606154
I'm just glad this confirms all the shit-flinging gets to that faggot Mysta and that it's making him depressed. Keep up the good work, guys.

Which HoloEN members do you think will take offense and which will ignore it?

>>19605725
Holy fuck this shit is getting real spicy

>>19605821
So in the end this whole hololive vs nijisanji gay rivalry has a "chinks vs japs" element to it in addition to "incels vs fujos"?
This industry is a fucking shitshow

>>19606577
I think the EN are professional enough (or at least will get the internal memo) to ignore this shit show.

>>19606329
It's because he is her IRL friend.

>>19606329
Infinitely more clout than Vox.

>>19606577
Mori unfollowing Vox is already an offense IMO

ShinobiHost is doing damage control in the reddit thread kek

>>19605821
Users over there are fighting the Mods Lmao
https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/t75n3b/nijien_accidentally_leaked_discord_messages_of/

>>19606413
Honestly the lesson really should be discord is not private. If written, it can leak one way or the other. So treat any action with name attached with caution. At best discord can be a slightly more relaxed place, but if you want to shitpost you can always come here.

A lot of yabs would never happened if people learnt to shut the fuck up.

>>19606483
It’s real

>>19606329
Connor is a personal friend, Vox is just some guy from the internet. The former of course gets a pass.

I can't believe my shitpost are taken seriously what the fuck. I though we're all just mostly larping here?

If you read within context, the only people actually talking shit in that screen are Finana and Fulgur.

- Pomu is only saying it feels like a war, not that she's treating it like one.
- Shu is just saying he auditioned for Holo
- Millie just says she's glad Shu is with them
- Vox is literally memeing about Hololive having technical issues and Niji not having them because he's there to provide tech support
- Mysta is just randomly being a sad boi

Imagine having shit you said being taken completely out of context from a couple frames of a screen grab.

>>19606483
Millie's stream
https://files.catbox.moe/qei7o8.mp4

>>19606459
I use OBS it automatically turned on when i launch it

>>19606210
It was when Mito made that game and someone was talking about how she thinks of Nijisanji as her family. This was in response to Evil God Korone being a bigger buff game didn't matter and was more corporate than Mito's despite Mito's being about picking which niji liver fits you.

Niji anti, no one is this retarded.

>>19606793
Kill yourself nijiniggerl

>>19606793
It is a war tho, remember gurame dabbing on lazulight debut?

>>19606793
Now you realize that /vt/ is nothing more than gossiping teenage girls.

>>19606793
Only one of these ive shit on is Finana for trying to stand on the success of Luxiem despite perfoming worse than a fucking bogan who streams once a month.

>>19605725
Mori unfollowed Rosemi, Selen, Vox, Shu, and Fulgur. LMAO

>>19606793
council flop posting is only made here

>>19606793
Vox is bad, like really bad
>but he's just memeing
framing it in a humorous way doesn't improve it
Pomu is strange because she's the last person i would expect to feel like there's any kind of conflict going on between Holos and Nijis
the rest are fine, true
but Finana, Fulgur and Vox are tribalist shitters

>>19606329
You don't banter with someone you don't know anon that would be rude

>>19606553
Naw, he didn't join in the circle jerk. I'm more sympathetic to him than anyone else in the leaks.

>>19606793
jesus the deflection and coping in this for shu's and vox's comments, reeks of it's just a joke bro

>>19606805
HOLY SHIT!!

>>19606793
>cover literrally doing their own thing
>dont even force sana to stream and even told her not to worry about numbers
>IT FEELS LIKE WAR
that is an extrem unhealthy mentality.

EN, the gift that keeps on giving. At least JP yabs hasn't extended to intercorporate war yet.

>>19606885
Mori redemption arc, fucking based.

>>19603989
Same as Mori
Will create a fuzz but nothing to destroy their careers

>>19606910
Is Finana orcschizo?!

>>19606885
Oh damn Mori is PISSED

>>19606885
Kek. Well they would never collab anyway so its basically just a formality. Still funny though.

>>19606885
The redemption

Before anybody defends Vox just remember all the skeletons he has in his closet. He is not a good person.

>>19605725
She follows Uki, Alban, Sonny, Yugo, Luca, Ike, Nina, Mysta, Enna, Reimu, Millie, Petra, Finana, Pomu, Elira. No Vox, no Fulgur, no Shu, no Selen, no Rosemi. Incidentally she still follows holoCN lol

>>19606401
It's working because she's doing one of the fundamentals of AGGRO PLAY
>Always go HAM
The way the attack hitboxes work, the further out you are the bigger the arcs are. Keeping close with rolls and counter-attacking lets you dispatch bosses much faster while also keeping you safe. Do it as a Samuari(or any HIGH DAMAGE class) and you can rapidly down a boss, minimizing the amount of annoying attacks they do.

>>19606577
Mori and Kiara will get mad but hide it. Gura and Ina will not care. Ame is 50/50

>>19606885
>rosemi, selen
why? they didn't appear on that leak though, also what about finana?

>>19606885
I KNEEL

>>19606964
>/vt/sistersimage.jpg

hm, now we could probably identify who the councilschizo is by identifying the timing of their posts vs which of the NijiEN are not streaming at the time.

>>19606793
It's been a war from the very start, and competitive spirit is important. Do you seriously think it's coincidence holoen ALWAYS has a big stream overlapping when nijiEN debuts?

Do you think stuff like Selejo and Gen5 overlapping is coincidence? Or that every big concert on JP side has a big event overlapping each other? Or how hololive suspiciously doesn't touch the baseball game when they're running a niji collab when it's easy buff game in summer (esp. with known baseball nuts like Subaru).

>>19606885
holy shit yes please god let this be a redemption arc for Mori

>>19606924
Seriously though, I feel like NijiEN have a very small dog mentality even though some are successful. Also, how the hell has HoloEN never had such a big discord leak? How do they do it?

>>19606885

>>19606885

Kek

>>19606402
b-but

>>19603348
Holly shit, is this real?

>>19607083
Kek. Match made in heaven

>>19607083
RORUMAO

Look at the fucking cope and damage control in here and tell me that nijiniggers aren't behind 90% of the shitposting that goes on in these threads

>>19606910
Vox could be shittalking both Mori and Hololive tech itself. Both are really bad and will have consequences.

>>19607083
StarsEN will bring back all the Chinese again

>>19607083
AIEEEEEEEEE

>>19607060
the girls discord is probbaly really profesional since management is there

niji discord is just just recular friend discord so you can guess what goes in there.

>>19603348
Wow I can't believe they'd say something mildly negative about another company, how could this happen. Cancel them all I say

>>19607060
They don’t have a private discord server.

>>19606793
>literally a thread to vent
you do know that this isnt the only thing they've talked right

>>19607127
yes

Lmao

>>19607211
don't you have a meeting to attend vox

>>19606910
Finana is a seething holoreject, her fanbase is mostly ex- and actual holofags, and if not for holo she simply would not exist as nijien.
Vox however doesnt really owe much to holo. He might be tribalistic sure, but he has a right to be so, he has his own separate fanbase which backs him up with numbers.

>>19603779
ur mom

>>19607083
You also start shitting up threads. Kek

>>19607060
HoloEN doesn't have private servers. All their servers are moderated.

>>19607083
RORU

>>19606885
>>19606995

>>19606918
i get why vox’s comment is bad but i honestly don’t see the issue with shu’s

>>19607083
HOLY FUCK LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>19607211
It just sets bad precedence for what you dont see like the time connor was shitting on Holos and Mouse steered that shit straight out, you dont air out such dirty grievances

>>19603478
>>19603597
>>19603757
>>19603828
>>19603919
>>19604003
>>19604083
>>19604615
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>>19605946
>>19606012
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>>19606131
>>19606195
>Fake x14 + replying with yes to a comment saying Fake
The absolute state of nijiniggers

>>19606885
Based
I'm sorry for shit on you before Mori

>>19607083
Oh shit

>>19607333
jesas

>>19607333

>>19607263
Finana is the one that tried to craft the narrative that the audition choice was down to her and Gura. I think its safe to say that Hololive made the right choice.

>>19606402

>>19607333
>all deleted
HAHAHHA

>>19607127
no es fake

>>19607333
Holy damage control

>>19607083
alright, that's pretty funny
i'll give your reddit screencap a pass

You guys got a better quality photo? So many people watching and no one got a 1080p resolution photo?

>>19607333
Fulgur doesn't know how to use vpns..

>>19607263
>Vox however doesnt really owe much to holo. He might be tribalistic sure, but he has a right to be so, he has his own separate fanbase which backs him up with numbers.
Vox gets to talk all shit he wants

Rushia > Lauren > Nene > NijiEN > ???
Yagoo, it is your turn for the next yab.

>>19607320
I bet none of you watch any sport where fans and players shit talk other teams all the time. No need to be so sensitive.
It's not like they actually shitted on Hololive or anything.

>>19607381
What was Finana's PL though? Did she even have a chance ?

>>19607437
Yeah, I know its not exactly kosher but the thread was linked linked here so I'm browsing it. Just grabbing some funny screen caps.

>>19607230
Basically.
This shit is coming from their 'little secret club' away from management's eyes. I'm not a fan of too overbearing of management, but there's a reason that having at least some oversight is beneficial.

>>19607083
heh ledditor, you're alright

>>19607454
HoloExpo is coming

>>19607465
Are you in the acceptance stage now that's it's hard to control the drama?

>>19607453
>Hololive fans angry at NijiENs behavior are now going to make sure that HoloStarsEN is a success
YAGOO can't stop winning

>>19607454
it's still your turn Npplenigger

>>19607480
She said that she made it to the semifinal and she lost to the girl who got Gura. Imagine if Gura has Finana's voice kek.

>>19607333
Kek. Include me in the screenshot.

>>19607453
Yeah. One might say its cringe to be a tribalfag, but hey we are in numbernigger thread here. Vox has earned his right.

>>19607454
ID3

>>19607536
This drama will serve as a big boost for HoloExpo, featuring EN in full 3D, maybe partial 3D while NijiENs rot.

>>19607586
stop replying to yourself vox

>>19607541
I literally said none of that was offensive from the start. Why do you have to be so sensitive?

>>19603348
who is mad about the nijis, Cover or us /here/? Kinda weird thing to say Fulgur Covid.

>>19607586
shut up vox

>>19607333
this is some delicious damage control

>>19607057
Not Holo's fault niji keep scheduling debuts in timeslots Gura has been streaming in since before nijiEN existed.

>>19607586
Vox please say "wo ai ni"

>>19607624
>>19607657
seethe holocuck we niggas thriving

>>19607657
>>19607624
You have no number bitch stfu

>>19607083
almost forgo to save

>>19607586
shut up vox
it's fine to do it here, if you're a talent fostering that mentality you're a pathetic loser

>>19607692
nigger

>>19607692
>>19607699
HAHAHAHAHA you bitter rejects

Shit, since Reimu got found out about browsing 4chan, now the rest of NijiEN are also found browsing 4chan as well.

No wonder they use 4chan number strategies a lot.

>>19607586
He is a business rival after all

>>19607746
lmao why would I join Hololive as a man?
Be a 2view nobody with the irrelevant "stars"? No thank you

>>19607757
>4chan number strategies
No wonder they have anemic views lol.

>>19607586
Ah discount corpse, NI HAO MA!!

>>19607757
>/#/ singlehandedly making nijiEN a success
no...

>>19606402
>it didn't work the first time but maybe if i post it again...
like read the thread before you post retard
>>19604896

>>19607757
Anon, the new wave has /asp/ posters in them.

>>19607757
I would pay so much to see the rest of that chat log. They've gotta be double the schizo as your average numberfag.

>>19603673
out of everything, the last one is malicious.

>>19607586
I just realized normally the talents being tribalfags makes infinitely more sense than the fans being one.

>>19607757
Vtubers need streaming-dedicated PCs for yab prevention

>>19607333
LOL

>>19606885
>Mori unfollowed Rosemi
I refuse to believe the Great Rosemi-sama is part of this trashtalking nonsense!

>Finana calling council a failure
lol

>>19603673
Kek

>outed as being numberfags
>don't have numbers
Imagine the seething

>>19606154
I just wish both sides could live in peace you know? I still like some livers from nijisanji but this just cements my hate for vox.

>>19607454
Holo3rdFest somehow manages to doxx the ID and EN members.

>>19607814
Why do you hate Shu Vox?

now i look foward to holostars EN even more.

imagine them being a breakthrough success and getting 2020 myth tier numbers, oh god the nijiseethe will be glorious

or them failing miserably and having to pathetically beg nijiEN for collabs kek that would be so awkward

>>19607960
Sana is a failure by Hololive standard though and that's what she said.

>>19604761
Pomu is a midget in comparison, also tainted by males.

>>19607960
I KNEEL SANA

Kek, Twitter fujos are also working hard at damage controling

>>19607999
I will fucking laugh if holostars en lap around vox

>>19607960
>streams once a month bogan
>streams almost every day brapfish
yikes

Yab is good for /#/

unrelated to current habbenins, any good funnels for miko's birthday? i know okayu's playing VS, but will the rest be the already ongoing stream, i only see a fbk frame and it's something about members

>>19608087
FBK is drawing

>>19608042
itll never happen unless somehow reddits homobegging fanbase actually is an untapped reservoir of fans which i fucking doubt.

The NijiEN members are venting while HoloEN members are preparing for 3D and their own booth events at HoloExpo.

I see why they are kinda seething because Nijisanji barely gives them any opportunities.

>>19607960
finally, some good fucking numbers

>>19607999
What kind of audience will holostar EN try to capture? Asian women already chose NijiEN. Western women? I don't think that market even exist for vtubers

>>19608127
DYRBI

At least as far as EN goes, the drama is just 100% Nijinigger cope. You know you fucked up when the males are more popular than the females that have been around longer.

>>19607999
Its crazy how vengeance work, just this morning I was bummed out about the StarsEn and tonight I want them to be a major success.

>>19608197
Spite changes many things.
While I doubt council will ramp things up in spite, I would certainly welcome it. That's the sorta things that make rivalries the best.

>>19608087
Lamy dosen't seem to plan to stop for quite some time so there is a chance that she will be able to funnel

>>19608027
Sana: does nothing and considered a failure even by holo fans

Still winning over vast majority of niji EN lol

>>19607999
Yeah, I was kinda indifferent to holostars EN, but now I want to see a successful EN bro that doesn't pander to chinks

>>19606885
Based. This will thought her that anybody outside of her group are toxic waste waiting to backstab her

>>19608107
>>19608265
those 3 should be pretty good for a nice boost

>>19607999
I just want one of them to be an actual horror enthusiast like Mashiro from NijiJP...
Cover onegai...

>>19606995
wait, why selen lmao

>>19607999
I went from not caring about StarEN to wanting them to beat NijiEN. Maybe unlikely though.

>>19607999
The good ending: holostars EN comes out, completely mogs the nijisanji boys into irrelevance, they act as a fujo sponge while Cover red-tapes them from collabing with the holoEN girls. Everyone wins.

>>19608009
Shut up Fiana, go fart in a bathtub or something

>>19608197
Looking forward to StarsEN now as well.

>>19607060
>Now you realize picrel is more relevant
Guess they were right when they said fanbase resemble their oshi kek

I can't wait for the official Nijisanji_World twitter account to perform a public naked dogeza to YAGOO with a stern apology.

>>19606031
Probably knows who are behind those characters because she/he is the one doing the auditions of course.

>>19608493
Funniest part is that it was the new guy that just fucking debut a week ago starting shit.

Petra will now be subjected to niji bully culture for this leak

Oh dear, the opsec fail.

Honestly it's just banter with a bit of an edge, but the fact that it leaked to the public makes all the difference. Guess that's what happens when you don't thoroughly vet your hires before shitting out new gens like a bad case of diarrhea. Enjoy the ride nijisisters.

Baelz and Fauna are doing alright, but I hope this gets Council doing more at the very least, especially Sana. Bad look for NijiEN aside, it was about time Council's general underperformance got spotlighted.

>>19607021
I think because rosemi is /here/ so she might be a rrat spreader too.

>>19605858
Calli would probably call them based, she have no pride in being a holo.
I wonder if other girls talk about stuff like that though comparing themselves with others, they have less reasons for that since hololive is top of the game so I imagine they can be kinda naive about stuff like that.

>>19607060
>Also, how the hell has HoloEN never had such a big discord leak
Because HoloEN knows better than to shit talk their competition in plain view. Fans reflect their oshi as they say

>>19607021
She probably knows something we don't know.

>>19607083
I like leddit sometimes. I have 1.5k leddit points

>>19603348
lol even their streamers are niggers, fanbase truly reflects the streamer

>>19608672
Calli just unfollowed all the nijis anon

>>19605468
>writing "stream" as "distribution"
deepl-chama...

damn so there's a non-zero chance that the councilschizo is an actual NijiEN?
this is setting the stage for EN's own Sio situation

>>19608714
based

>>19604181
Omega might feel called out I bet he pushed for this dudes, that's why he got himself an avatar.

>>19607999
I was about to anti ENstars, now im gonna support them just to see nijiniggers in shambles

This yab better not impact my oshi's birthday stream numbers tonight

For some reason I immediately imagined an Asacoco 3.0 segment snarking on it, with Ms Kiryu C making a return jab that allowed everyone to laugh about it and defuse the yab.

Fuck, I miss that bitch...

>>19608714
Now /#/ will accept leddit point numnber how many leddit point your oshi has poggies lulw kekw

>>19608878
She won't even reach 120k tonight.

>>19608377
Don't think she ever followed Selen.

>>19608877
nijiniggers will be shaking in their boots, watch out nijiniggers you've been warned

>>19607465
>watch any sport where fans and players shit talk other teams all the time
Like Nijisanji?

>>19608714
Now go and start shit there anon

>>19605896

>>19608944
130k easy with that line up. She got the whole Sankisei (Except Pekora) and Shiraken as well as other big names
The lineup is definitely better than Pekora's birthday

Thankfully they are EN. If they are JP we can get another Sio situation.

>>19608878
Why would anyone watching Miko give the slightest fuck what dumb EN niggers are doing?

>>19607999
I hope both groups end up collapsing

>>19608620
Sana is checked out anon. I look forward to IRyS taking her spot in the council because Sana got called back to her home planet (and then died on the way)

>>19608379
regardless if they beat nijiEN, being part of holo already, is a big buff

>>19609048
To prove that she followed him once.

>>19609079
>*raises hand*
I mean, I'm a branch-unity fag, hell I'll even watch HoloID if they're doing something that catches my interest.

how to you translate "good times" to Japanese?

>>19608087
Add Suisei to the list

>>19609241
MICOMET LOVE

>>19609241
Another Vampire Survivor kek

>>19608087
Mori will have an ER stream
And Pekora Sekiro

>>19609079
I'm membered to both Miko and Ame amongst others

>>19604359
wouldn't it be funnier if they weren't? "yeah, you can collab with us. what'cha gonna do now?"

>>19608127
Small dog please understand

>>19607333
yummy damage control lmaooo

I wonder how nijiJP's reaction if they learnt of this

>>19609316
p sure those are after

>>19609391
>They were doing this before they were part of Nijisanji.

>>19607757
So...I maybe accidentally shit on them directly?

>>19609391
Too busy with nipplegate.

>>19607060
not EN, but there was that Rushia debacle.

>>19606536
How do u know the first one wasnt the one with diff timestamp?

>>19608323
what makes you think anybody inside wont?

>>19607757
I guess we got our answer to what would happened if this thread got to run an agency.

>>19609170
>>19609328
So you're not going to watch Miko then since nijiEN had a yab hours before her stream?

Lamy barely lost any viewers with timeslot changes. Are Elden Ring tourists persistent or has she grown her viewerbase?

>>19609391
NijiJP shitpost on the 5ch's Holo anti thread.

>>19606031
Omega I kneel

>>19609518
she's strong now anon

Choco has been singing for 4 hours and she has more likes than Lamy. How hard is youtube culling our sex symbol?

>>19609518
inb4 gen5 schizo

>>19603348
>Council didn't do as good as expected
>Luxiem is massive
Bruh, they're behind Councilschizo, and the Luxiem is 5 Mystas/Vox shit?

>>19609518
>Are Elden Ring tourists persistent
They are currently dealing with a discord leak

>>19608688
more like know better than to use "display capture"

>>19609513
What, Oh that's not it, I'm certain I've completely misunderstood what you meant then.
Of COURSE I'm watching Miko.
Yea, this yab isn't going to really affect most people who were planning on watching Miko, that I agree with. The most this does is cause some unity-fags who watch NijiEN and HoloEN to re-evaluate things.