/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>19503252
Wasted slot.
Is Cover retarded? Imagine kicking your best talents while keeping these wastes

>>19503252
just have someone else draw and animate her avatar, fuck this

>>19503252
shes been working overtime in the cover corp sex industry to make up for the lack of revenue from streams

OK

>>19503252
Conner was right and she is the proof of it.

Actually, 3 of them were outfit related. The other streams were Animal Crossing, Mario kart and MHW. Great oshi you have here councilkeks.

>>19503599
councilkeks want her gone as much as you do

Imagine if we had Rosemi instead of her

>>19503252
Actually just a wasted spot. Imagine if someone who actually gave a shit and had passion had gotten her spot. I can't even imagine how those who applied feel seeing this cunt just not give a shit thinking it could have been them instead of her.

>>19503440
Why is this board obsessed with that Connor guy?

>>19503440
Connor was right and Connor's new vtuber self is proof of that. Some might call that...ironic.

>>19504116
They want to suck his cock much like Mori and Ironmouse

>>19504116
>most dramafags are women
>93% of Connor's audience is female
They want his princely bloodline

>>19504116
More like cuckbeats obsessed with him

>>19503440
>more and more people are leaving her membership as each day passes
>conner was right
retard

>>19503440
Yes, getting overworked to do the 6 month merch and art for cover song so she can't stream to kill her channel growth was a way to prove the power of Hololives brand. What a retard.

>>19504727
>art for cover song
Why you lying? https://twitter.com/mst2020_/status/1496370475005620226

>>19504116
most who actually give a shit about him are SEAfags that are still pissed off about the connor-ollie situation

>>19504727
>overworked
>chibi doodle shit
>she wasn't even responsible for the MV art

>>19503440
Its not that he was wrong, its that no one wants to hear it from a shitty ironic weeb

>>19504116
The problem isnt Connor exactly; Its the fact that Calli sucks his dick despite the fact that he shat on Hololive. Regardless of how true his statements were it's just a shitty move from Calli.

I don't get it, she's not even that great of an artist.

>>19504178
Male vtubing means he's competing with the manjisanji buff, not the holowhore buff.

>>19504116
I think the funniest posts I’ve seen on this board are the ones where anons fantasize about getting raped by him so they can break his dick with their assholes.

What was the ollie and connor drama?

>>19503762
At this point I take Petra over Sana

>>19504116
People hate him because he speaks the truth.

>>19503252
I’ll take one for the team, Anon. I’ll correct this behavior personally…

>>19505625
Nope, she gets to collab with her Niji JP senpais.

>>19503762
Rosemi is litereally the only nijiEN I can tolerate. If only she was a holo and didn't have to interact with the nijiEN guys then that'd be the most ideal out come ever

Are there any sanalite complaining about her lack of stream? What is her response to that? I just wondering why nobody get mad.

>>19509021
last stream there were people in her chat telling her to do a zatsu or at the very least a twitter update once a week.

>>19503762
I was surprised how good this niji was when I checked out her yugioh streams. Quality girl you got there

I don't get these threads. If it's meant to bait Sanallites, then it contradicts the forced perception here that Sanallites don't exist. So it just makes you look like an obsessed mentally ill faggot

>>19509021
some of the real Sanalites that actually watched her, including me, unsubbed/membered her channel. Other sanalites will just wait like the dog from Futurama I guess.

>>19504727
She's just a lazy cunt. No need to make excuses for that brown

>>19503252
>She's overworked!!!
She took this job out of her own free will, knowing full what the workload was expected. She's not a child, she's not some uneducated 16 year old taking her first job. She's a grown ass woman. She wasn't hurting for money, She's not in debt and taking the higher paying job first.
She's a lazy sack of shit that wasted a gen slot for her own personal ego.
>>19504727
Actual bootlicker.

>>19503252
keep crying.
>>19503343
>>19503775
your 2view wouldn't have gotten in regardless, faggot.
>>19503440
neck yourself, you larping shitpiece.
>>19503599
>noooooo she isn't catering to meeeeeeee
meds.
>>19512301
>TROO FANZ
opinion discarded.
>>19512477
>retarded internet tuffguy shitting on others
pathetic.

I guess she's exactly who Connor was thinking about when he made that statement. No clue how Sanalites defend this shameless behaviour, holofags will accept anything I guess.
Also >>19514597 Touch grass.

Even the most loyal of HL fans must wonder why the likes of Pomu still don't have as many subs as her despite the massive difference in content output

>>19503252
Give Reine her spot on council and transfer her to holoID for being an abo who never streams

>>19514597
Ina has streamed almost twice as much as Sana has in the last six months despite having more than double her credited artistic workload.

>>19503252
grim

Rushia has streamed more since she got fired than Sana.

>>19514597
even the multireply schizo is putting in less effort defending his abbo oshi

it truly is over for sana

Since debut
>Hakos Baelz 159 uploads
>Nanashi Mumei 111
>Ceres Fauna 108
>Ouro Kronii 87
>Tsukumo Sana 72

>>19515377
Its just simple brand recognition

Hololive is the big name in the vtuber game
the Coca-Cola to Nijisanji's RC Cola

>>19503775
its the holo austrailia power dynamics. bae keeps on streaming for sana

>>19514597
> your 2view
why do people keep deflecting to 2views?
i like sana, i want to watch her stream.
i just don't like how she's maintaining radio silence with her fans both on youtube and twitter, and now that i've seen her roommate's twitter i feel disgusted

>>19503252
I feel like we're in a feedback loop where she gets butthurt when she sees complaints about her output and then goes "hmph I won't stream just to trigger you more" just because she can. If that is how she is then she is fucking incredibly ungrateful and self-centered and would still pretend she's in control even as she's crashing and burning. There's literally never been a Holo that has objectively failed to do what they came here to do, to stream, in its entire history. Before you point at Shion and Ayame etc FYI Ayame streamed almost daily for a year+ straight. Sana burned out about 3 months in.

Just because Holos don't get fired for inactivity = you should be inactive. How many Sanallites (like actual members) are even left now? Do recall, that Sana was actually the 2nd in superchats in Council's first month. Back when she was attempting to give a shit and while people were figuring things out she was actually punching far above her weight despite Susan thanos snapping like half her subs. Sorta like Kronii she failed to capitalize on falling bass ackwards into success only unlike Kronii she just isn't even trying anymore. It's like she thought this whole thing was just a networking exercise to get closer to famous artists and scoffs at the notion of even keeping a loose frame of consistency going. I'm now thinking that "fuck you teehee" she did when coming back from the Dog Died Arc™ was really more of a guilty conscience lashing out rather than just being face-value.

>>19518016
I'd like to point out that Ayame has had more streams numerically than Sana for I think several months now. Sana is literally worse than Ayame.

Did Sana quit or get soft-graduated or something, and they just don't wanna announce it out-loud for the bad press/PR, for EN management to try to keep up a delusion of having things under control just a bit longer?

>>19516269
>Ouro Kronii 87
>Tsukumo Sana 72
Anons ITT shitting on Sana, while ignoring Kronii's laziness

>>19518508
We'll likely start finding out some details after HoloFes. Seems unlikely to expect any stream from her before then.

>>19516269
Considering Sana had a month long break and has streamed just 4 times the last two months, Kronii only having 15 more videos is far more damming

>>19518508
>soft graduated
>literally just had merch made and a Council cover song
The statement will be she’s just been busy taking care of prior art commitments elsewhere (or some lore based explanation) and she’ll be back full time when they are resolved

>>19518638
Stop watching then like me

>>19518016
>I'm now thinking that "fuck you teehee" she did when coming back from the Dog Died Arc™ was really more of a guilty conscience lashing out rather than just being face-value.
Actually touch grass

>>19517830
Spoonfeed me, anon. What did you see that I missed? I've been checking her roommate account and found nothing, uh, yabai or out of the ordinary.

>>19518638
>>19518987
are you two smoothbrains retarded or something? we're not talking about their average laziness throughout their whole 6-month career, most of council is pretty lazy in that regard.

we're talking about sana because her laziness since new year has been ridiculous

in all of Jan and Feb Kronii has 24 streams and 11.

in Feb, Kronii has 8 and Sana... 2.

Kronii wasn't great either but she did fuck up her PC, but i'm not even making excuses for her.
with the money she made she could've easily gotten a gaming laptop delivered overnight from amazon so she could continue streaming but she didn't.

>>19519313
She's tweeting a lot about genshin.

>>19518987
>>19518638
17 days of not streaming while being active on her room mate, playing genchink.

at least kronii puts out reasons/excuses for her absences and announces them, had her original song come out and joined the off collab.

Sana just doesn't even try anymore.

>>19519354
Just saying that it's ridiculous that Kronii is the most subscribed Council member, despite being the 2nd laziest uploader.

>>19519313
Sana twitter: radio silence, ignoring most fan tweets other than the cards a few weeks back, then back to radio silence

Roommate twitter: "hey look at my gacha dog, isn't my dog cute? look at my dog! buy gacha! spend money on shitty gacha game to get my dog! btw let's talk about genshin" non stop every day

Not to say that she's not allowed to socialize on either twitter but this shows that the excuses like "she's so busy she can't even interact with her fans" or "she might be sick or something that stops her from getting on the internet" are complete bs

she just doesn't care about her hololive fans

>>19519511
This is after Sana promised to keep her fans updated on her (hololive) twitter account too.

>>19519140
Unless Genshin impact shuts down, i doubt it

>>19519476
Many people fall for "Soft voice, big booba". Is it retarded? Yeah. But so is the entirety of findom and yet. Here we are.

>>19505368
sana deserves to graduate yes, but damn are you a salty 2view anon.

>>19519476
Kronii is actually a better example of "quality over quantity".
she streams less than average, but people really like her voice.
they like her deadpan humor, they like her fake confidence coupled with her actual ponkotsu energy while gaming.

Sana's big buff was that she's really really good at games.
Her Celeste streams were great, it didn't look like it was her first time playing.
(either she played it before or is just very good at platformers, doesn't matter, she was a pro and it was a treat to watch and cheer for her)

i personally didn't enjoy her pokemon streams that much, there was no room to show her hard skills in a boring kids game.
pvp isn't fun either when she's the only one with any real competitive experience.

>>19509021
they forgot that she exists.

>>19517830
>why do people keep deflecting to 2views?
Because who the fuck cares about "someone who could have gotten in that had passion"? If they were good, they'd have got in over Sana.

If anything, Sana did us a favor by gatekeeping these shitters

>>19519994
Actual retard. Every single recent chuuba in hololive, JP/EN, has been taken from the 2view scene. Logic fails, you're smelly and gross.

>>19519511
I mean is there a surprise she would be advertising the gacha dog on her roommate account? She can’t exactly do it on her Sana account, and she would have some obligation to advertise it probably.

>>19520179
Well then imagine how dog shit all the applicants were that Sana got in over all of them

>>19519362
>She's tweeting a lot about genshin
>has made literally one tweet about genshin

>>19520270
Nah

>>19520179
JP no, those girls were scouted, everyone was somebody back then.

Council & Irys were all established people on the internet. probably even more stacked (on paper) than Gen5 who were all pretty big deals outside of aloe.

I don't even think about her since she's such a non presence. Seeing that clipnigger's channel in my recommended is what triggers me.
"SUB TO HER" for what? To get zero content?

>>19520270
Sana is most obviously a nepotism hire.

they probably banked on Ina being like Mel where the nepotism hires turned out well. but Sana turned to shit.

>>19519511
I see, that's what you meant. I got so used to her being a lazy and ungrateful bitch that I forgot it's naturally infuriating seeing her not give a shit about her actual job while spamming her roommate account with genchink bullshit. My bad.

>>19520229
i don't want her to advertise that shitty gacha trash on her hololive twitter, i want her to be present as Sana for her Sana fans!
say something, make dumb jokes, upload stupid doodles, talk to fans, talk to other holos, anything!

>>19519994
council would inarguably be better off if it didn't have an absent member 6 months in lmao.
any hardworking appreciative 2view would easily fulfill that role.

but i don't care about that, that ship has sailed, we got Sana and Sana got us.
i just want her to stream again.

sana bad!

>>19503252
tummy hort and dingo died a month ago :( pls undrstan

>>19503252
At this point Cover probably can just fire her without announcement and pretend that she is still there by including carboard cutout into council collabs once every 3 month. No one would even notice that something is off.

>>19505215
Where can I read about this Connor Ollie situation?

>>19518638
Kronii put out a song, had a shit pc, did twitcasts to compensate, broke out her old shit pc for a post MV stream, met EN members irl, and now that her pc is back she's streaming tonight and probably multiple times this month.
Sana on the other hands only excuse has been unknown "projects", and despite having full ability to do so, she chooses to ignore her fans.

>>19520952
From what I recall, she said 6m council merch (which ended up being doodle tier art), holofes and bday merch were keeping her busy among other things.
She's going to run out of excuses pretty soon.

>>19519994
>If they were good, they'd have got in over Sana
That is precisely the sore point because it in fact, is not true. This is where the nepotism thing gets ugly, someone got in at least in part merely by knowing an existing Holo and that probably gave her an edge over all other candidates for the slot.

Nobody in their right mind can argue Sana was the best pick out of a top 5 selection of chuubas to become the next Holos, not when there are tons of indies who stream near-daily just for the joy of it to tiny audiences who would have become like an EN Miko or Koyori if given the chance. Looking at how HoloX are generally gung-ho girls if not blatant numberfags up-front, you can see that they take this seriously and have a competitive spirit in them. That, is something utterly lacking in Council in specific. All of these girls would be the types to just walk slowly around the track talking to each other during the mile run in PE if they were allowed to.

>>19521059
she can literally start a stream, say she misses her fans, make some dumb jokes for 15 minutes, and end the stream, and that'd still improve her image a million times.
what is this "too busy to stream" bs

>>19520952
Her dog died.

>>19521059
I think the ridiculous thing about being busy with Hololive art is that Cover doesn't step in and ask her to at least interact with her social media accounts. I'm harboring a rrat that they've already tried and she directly told them no thanks, and she "really really needs" full focus to get the work done because gacha on her off time is more important than streaming.

>>19519994
>Sana did us a favor by gatekeeping these shitters
they must have been a whole new level of shit to get gatekeeped by sana

>>19521639
>>19519994
Considrering some of the niji girls legit seem like they'd have been several times more effective/popular than Sana if they were in her place yeah nah. If every nijiEN was like Nina (literally known to hate the medium and is transparently there just to make money and forcing an extremely fucking obnoxious kayfabe, and keep in mind we have Mori for that in Holo) I'd agree Sana was sadly the best option they had, but no, some of the nijis would have worked out fine as Holos - not all of them, in fact only several out of their ten, but some of them would have worked out great.

i cannot believe pomu didn't get in but sana did
hololive pomu would have absolutely dominated in numbers

>>19521988
Redpill me on Nina. Her "honey" shit during her debut period turned me off completely and made me wish someone else had her avatar.
>we have Mori for that in Holo
Ogey

>>19522093
Pomu had to compete with Myth, not Sana

>>19522093
Council (fixed edition) -

Selen as Bae
Pomu as Sana (ideally, with a model similar to Pomu's; Sana's look simply never happened)
Rosemi for one of the three others (your pick)

>>19522256
https://youtube.com/shorts/u_POzxyG50I?feature=share

H4HRD captcha

>>19521245
>Nobody in their right mind can argue Sana was the best pick out of a top 5 selection of chuubas to become the next Holos,
I can, and evidently Cover did. These are the same guys that nixed a whole side branch because NOBODY fit their qualifications. If those 2views weren't stable enough to present themselves better than Sana did, then we're better off without them.

>>19522256

>>19521596
From what the girls have said, management seems to be pretty hands off when it comes to how Holos interact with each other. Stream content on the other hand needs to be approved by management.
The sad part is that it really only seems like Fauna acknowledges her existence these days (she's a huge unityfag) and Sana's debut tier level of knowledge about the other girls in their latest collab seems to support the narrative that they don't really talk to her.

>>19522468
Nah

>>19522391
>Selen as Bae
No fuck you, Bae is the best council. Omegatroon just needed to dial down his lore faggotry five notches.

>>19522468
And yet, Sana wound up as she is.

Interviewing is a skill for-sure and I'm betting a lot of Council came across as way more impressive at first glance than how they played out in practice. Some of them like Fauna I can see being very similar to what they thought they'd wind up with as she just kind of has that mopey creampuff aura to her seemingly naturally. Others though like Sana can, if she was actually excited about something, be really energetic and fun and that probably came on really strong in interviews.

>>19522542
I accept your concession.

>>19522487
Glad cucking is rent free in your head because of me anon

>>19522569
Sana had a lot of creative ideas coming straight out of the gate but she basically fell face forward on all of them.
Instead of pushing through, grinding and finding a niche similar to Kiara, she flat out just gave up.

>>19522626
I accept your cum in my mouth. Throatfuck me daddy. I'm listing after that slanky schlong

>>19522789
>bae shuns her straya roots
>could have had a fockin bogan kneegress cawnt
>instead we have literally nothing
All you had to do was play games in front of a computer screen with your funny accent, woman. The name of the largest corporation in your genre is there, you have people you can ask to do your work for you, and you get to work with literal friends because you're a nepotistic fucker. Fuck sake, how fucking retarded do you have to be to fuck it up with literally everything on your side?

>>19523185
This is what I get the most bitter about. Just had to play games once or twice a week to rake in thousands. What, she needs to potentially fake being friends with 4 or more other autists who make thousands just playing video games? Jesus Christ. Easiest bag in the world and the retard fumbles it.

>Pin tweet is from January
>Only posts are retweets of other members and the Pokemon direct
>No updates on herself or streams
This is it, isn't it? Next thing is she's quitting. How hard would it be to just give her followers a status update about what she's doing or going on or even when she'll stream next? It's just fucking nothing.

>>19522391
only sana deserves to get shafted.

still better than mori

>>19505326
These took like 10 minutes tops. They simply had her doodle something to attempt to fit the narrative of "yeah she's busy behind the scenes guys" to attempt to deflect people from pondering the obvious, that she's a glaring blank spot in the EN roster.

>>19519511
Fucking this I follow multiple artist that have creations in gacha games and they don't act the same way her roommate does, it's obvious that she wastes her time finding fanarts instead of being ''ultra busy''

I feel so bad for Pako papa. Dude was so supportive and excited about Sana and her friends, and she's just fucking ghosted everyone.

>>19524913
Best way to quit hololive, by having her fans leave her before they announce the graduation

>>19531698
For real. He was always there in chat cheering her on whenever she streams, even during endurance streams. He sometimes even tweets how much he misses her stream.
Poor guy got shafted hard.

seething 2view general

>>19531698
>Always making art for collabs and big stream moments
>Always there in chat for hours on end
>Appeared in other girls streams to support them too
>Completely disappeared after his daughter cucked him for a pink dog
I miss him, hope he's on for gen 3 and designs a gloomier character to fit his artstyle.

>>19532424
as much as i like to shit on her model for just being shit in general, pako is a really cool dude.

>>19531698
I hope they let him design another Holo so he can have an actually active _____Son

>>19522256
Nina is a cheeky, but warm wine aunt and a decent gamer.

>>19519994
>If they were good, they'd have got in over Sana.
Are you saying that there's literally noone that applied that would've done better than Sana? Sounds like a tough sell.

Least lazy Abbo

>>19528465
At least she didn't trace it.

>>19514597
LMAOOOOOOO
Please keep posting,

>>19532424
Don't feel too bad for him, he dropped the ball hard on the design.

>>19519511
People should just spam her roommate account and ask her why she is so active on that account but not with Sana ("hey why are you active here but not on your STREAMING ACCOUNT" for no doxx). Fuck common courtesy, she needs to get a *little* push to fulfil her other job (being Sana). After all, that seems like the only way to reach her since she probably doesn't even check her Sana accounts. Also, her roommate fans deserve to know that she is a lazy bitch and not the hardworking artist they admire.

I would do it if I actually gave a shit about her. But the only thing I care about her is the spot which she wasted and could've gone to an actual vtuber artist.

>>19536425
"Other obligations" feels a little more subtle, but also more serious.

>>19503252

>>19519994
> If they were good, they'd have got in over Sana.
>there are people ITT that doesn't know sana is a product of nepotism
it's all so tiresome

>>19505625
Even Reimu ass is better than Sana

>>19516269
>Ouro Kronii 87
>Tsukumo Sana 72
Well that's eye-opening. I don't feel bad about Sana not streaming as much. I know Kronii was out of commission for week because her PC crashed, but 4chan is treating like Sanners has gone totally awol when she's been showing up for collabs and birthday streams.

>>19536425
I know this board has at least part-time meidos, this shit is embarrassing.

>>19541215
Large part of it is debut month. Sana was actually streaming quite often back then, she also has not bad amount post "dead dog" break. But she completly collapsed this year.

Kronii on the other hand was always and still is 3-4 times a week streamer. Plus pretty sure she actually is showing up to collabs more often than Sana.

>>19536425
cut the shit. you're not doing it because you're scared

>>19516269
the rat genuinely loves hololive, you can tell

>>19516269
Surprised Fauna hasn't made more standalone ASMR videos. A quick 30 minute themed rambling, do a few taps and blows, make each episode loosely continuous so it doesn't look too lazy, earn hundreds in premieres and look busy.
>>19541215
Sana and A-chan call up, A-chan has more of a rapport with the members. The assistant streams more than the "talent". Sana can't even push out a weekly update.

>>19505760
Whenever someone on 4chan says this kind of shit, I immediately know that the person in question was wrong.

>>19504116
it's just retards

People continue to be retarded about Sana. The main reason she was hired was so they had an in-house artist who could handle the lions share of merch for shit like Holofes. Her streaming is her secondary job for when they don’t have projects to throw her way. She’s not going anywhere because her schedule is going as Cover intended.
>b-b-but Ina
Ina was hired as a streamer first, artist second

When in doubt, just blame Omega for not letting Sana update on why she’s busy

>>19544864
Omega's not even active on Twitter to yell at.

>>19544864
> blame Omega for not letting Sana update on why she’s busy
yeah also blame OmegaA for not letting Sana unpin the January schedule.
for not letting her post anything on her youtube community.
for making her completely ghost her hololive fanbase while actively engaging with her roommate's community

jesus christ the cope

>>19544864
You're the retard if you genuinely think this, Sana and Cover have never come out with an official clarification about Sana's role and Sana has to apologize every stream she's returned in for being busy. If you genuinely do believe it, just break down the fucking job offer and tell me if you're enough of a dimwit to take it
>You will need to go through the same application process as every other streamer to be considered for this role
>Be paid the basic streamer salary at cover
>You can earn commission from Superchats if you stream, we'll take 30% of that, youtube will take another 30%
>btw you can't stream because we need professional level art from you
>you will have forced engagement with a group that will grow close with each other on collaborations while you work for our projects
>You will also be forced to assist them for anniversary stuff, hope you can sing
>Since you're a public figure, you will have eyes on your every activity constantly

>>19541963
I'm getting hiatusxhiatus chart flashbacks

>>19527490
That's just a question of shit content vs no content

>>19544864
>When in doubt, just blame Omega for not letting Sana update on why she’s busy
There is no doubt, she was just a dud and a great example on why nepotism is fucking shit. Not everyone will be a Korone.

>>19546498
People who keep trying to peddle "Sana is an in-house artist!!" Are actually autistic. Cover already has in house artists. If they wanted more, they would just hire them. Sana offers no benefit over some other random jap artist, in fact she would only cost more due to needing a model.
Also, if she was an in house artist then where's the art? And no, the "anniversary" art doesn't count for fuck's sake. Most of those are already just part of the character designs. They only slapped Sana's name on it so that it would drum up more sales. Or, if she did focus on just that then is that really almost a month or more of work? Jesus Christ. I swear these schizos on here have never held even a minimum wage job before. Their work ethic is literal 0

>>19503252
please graduate

>>19505532
lmao maybe I shouldve visited the shit threads after all

This is what happens when you give a bad character design to a bad streamer.

Still mad she wasn't Yoruichi levels of hot. I'd be throbbing every stream at that chuuba.

>>19503252
this is sana when she was child
https://youtu.be/gtFdeRfttZs