/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>19501265
the fact that only the RRAT doesn't have RRATs

>>19501265
One doesn't stream, apart from that nothing they are awesome

>>19501265
Two whores, two people who don't like streaming, and one retarded rrat.

Hiring hobbyists instead of professional streamers.

Sana

The dark skin girl is the only one with big tits, who the fuck decided that?

>>19501265
I'm not having sex with them

Collab bans were a mistake. Seeing the same 20 Vtubers collabing together over and over again is fucking boring. I wish they'd be more like NijiEN and reach out to small corpos and indies more often,

nothing, they're based and way better than myth

>>19501265
Unconditional support of fours, sixes, and even twos out of tens by fanboys. Baelz is the best, even then she is a seven out of ten on her good days. On bad days she is a five out of ten. See >>19501366 for an example of this ass kissing.

>>19501265
I love fauna and her asmr. That's about it though.

>>19501374
Which ones whores?

>>19501265
>What went wrong?
Bae doesn't want to lead. So who's leading?

>>19501265
Shit nepotism hires
Utter trash and lazy schedules
Have bfs
Overdesigned or straight out bad models

Bae seems pretty nice. Other than that, I like Mumei's voice and that's it for the lot of em.

>>19501535
>you're not supposed to like things in my hate thread it makes me upset

>>19501815
Reps redditchama

>>19501265
>hates men
>retarded
>tryhard
>married
>doesn't stream

the only problem is that they're all unique has 0 synergy and unity within the gen

>>19501265
to be fair, Fauna, Mumei and Baelz are all pretty good, it's just that they're gen is weighed astronomically down by Kronii and Sana. They're sinking this gen into the ground as everyday passes

>>19501265
>What went wrong?
Everything.

>>19501815
Pretty sure it's Mumei and Fauna, they're my whores.

>>19501855
it's smart of her to ditch council and hang out with other holomems. When the ace of your gen is a lazy feminist deadweight, it's obvious that there's no hope in council

>>19501855
Probably Mumei. She managed the 6 month song collab, worked with Fauna to make the off-collab happen, and took responsibility for Kiara being left out when she really didn't have to.

>>19502477

Who is who here?

>>19502477
>Fauna hates men
based
>Sana is retarded
She's just Australian
>Bae is a tryhard
that's what makes her cute
>Kronii is married
yeah, to me
>Mumei doesn't stream
she regularly streams into my mouth

>>19503042
i think it's order by sub count most to least

>>19502818
>it's obvious that there's no hope in council
irys was never part of council, not sure why you say it like a surprise

>>19502558
I always feel like if Sana actually can streamed me then Kronii would stream more as well to avoid being in last place.

>>19503192
stream a fucking english class, jesus

>>19503158
Hope rides alone.

>>19501265
Sana

>>19503279
pretty sure she rides Bae

>>19503278
>>19503192
Phoneposting at work and it has been lagging a bit. I should still be more careful though to proofread before posting though, being phoneposting scum is bad enough but holy fuck that was bad.
I’ll leave the post there rather than delete it in a vain attempt to hide my shame.

>>19503068
>Fauna hates men
Lol, no she doesn't. She's extreeeeeemely attracted to men. That girl is straight as an arrow.

>>19501265
they tried that whole unity thing with council meetings to bring hype and interest to the gen until that fell apart. It's pretty obvious why tho when one person from the group is rarely ever present at her job

>>19503422
I'm replying to previous anons assertions, I don't follow Fauna enough to know one way or the other. Thank you for correcting me :)

>>19502477
>Bae hates men
>Kronii retarded
>Sana tryhard
>Mumei married to me
>Fauna doesn't stream
I think I got it right.

Omegatranny stiffling their creativity and forcing his failed fanfic tier character concepts.
Sana's "dog" died. Probably not really her dog and means something else, but the fact is that she stopped streaming in a critical phase for her success, and doubt she'll recover. She also seems more interested on her real job so streams less than Ayame, and hasn't recovered public trust or whatever the antis excuse is.
Kronii's pc died and hasn't really streamed since, which won't hurt her as much but activity is what makes you relevant for YT algorithm. Also, apparently she hates her model and people love the titties, so that's a self debuff too.
Baelz voice is annoying to some people I guess. Also, Aussie so that's a debuff.
Mumei and Fauna are fine, but still don't stream as regularly or do something more to increase their viewers.
Overall the gen had potential but management killed it from the get go, and stagnated their future growth.
Doesn't help that with the yabs, less chat interaction is encouraged which makes streams insufferable for viewers and chubbas.

>>19502477
>Sana's married (to me)
>Fauna's married (to me)
>Kronii's married (to me)
>Mumei's married (to me)
>Bae tries hard (to be a good wife (to me))

>>19503755
whore

>>19501265
botched debut and heavy YT cull from the start made their hype die to fast, also Kronii was not the right fit for the heavilly buff model, just imagine if it was iRyS with that model... gura would have a challenger.

Kronii is still valuable but should have a different model. and ofcourse there is no saving for Sana.

>Sana disappeared and weren't people making a fuss online about her being the Kiara of her gen?
>Kronii wants to remove what people see as the best part about her
>Rat is annoying
>Fauna is fine
>I dont know enough about mumei
Worst of all, their chat interaction overall is not good whatsoever

>>19504032
I think that outfit is too lewd for IRyS

>>19501855
Bae is basically the 'Subaru' of Council, only one in her gen(aside from Fauna and maybe Mumei) who enjoys streaming.

>>19503755
Fucking whore, have you never heard the waifu law?
>"More then one waifu will destroy your laifu"
With that many I fear what's in store for you

>>19504485
>their chat interaction overall is not good whatsoever
obvious you never watched any of them clipfag

They don't cover Myth's dead air. In fact, some just overlap when they actually stream.

>>19504685
don't blindly accuse, the man's prob just a poor greyfag and never got his chat read

>>19504685
>>19504812
Please watch better streamers, your standards are too low

>>19501265
Two of them dont stream

>>19501265
Replace Sana with IRyS and you'd have the perfect gen

>>19501429
Sorry just can't stop fucking her she'll return eventually

>>19504485
>their chat interaction overall is not good whatsoever
Fauna literally cannot stop looking at chat to talk to them. Go watch her vampire survivor stream where she was struggling because she wanted to read chat. Hell go watch her Mario Kart streams where you can visibly see her constantly looking at chat.

>>19501265
Looking at it here, Kronii’s model is fucked. She’s built like a fucking ant. Her legs and arms make up like 80% of her body and the other 20% is her torso and head. She looks so weird next to the rest of them.

>>19504858
>your standards are too low
cmon then who do you recommend, lets see how predictable you are

>>19501815
All of them except the rat. Her holes are kept nice and tight under the watch of her tiger parents.

>>19501265
Bae and Fauna are ok, Mumei has to focus a lot of her energy on not letting out how cunty she is, Kronii is supposed to effortlessly carry the gen like Gura but she can't even do that and Sana

>>19505782
HoloJP
>EOP
Then you'll never experience good streamers, simple as

>>19501323
>doesn't have RRATs
she is a bug

NONE
OF
THEM
STREAM
Except Rat

>>19506479
but I already do watch holojp and en

>>19504608
>and maybe Mumei
She’s probably the one who enjoys streaming the most since it’s her escape from IRL responsibilities.

>>19501265
Orcschizo is their leader

>>19501265
baelz and irys should join myth and graduate everyone else on council

>>19506597

>>19501265
Outside of Sana. I feel like everyone is doing pretty well for themselves.

>>19501265
Fauna is great and very talented, that's it.

>>19501265
They are ugly and smell bad.

>>19501455
Kronii ad Fauna both have big tits.

>>19506990
at sucking cock

How come Kroni still doesnt have 1 mil yet?

I thought she was going to be a blow up

>>19502992
Mumei is the creatividad.

>>19501265
only kroni is worth watching tbf

>>19503692
>>19504032
>>19504485
What is this about Kronii hating her model? She looks great.

>>19501265
No cunny

>>19506786
dont bother responding to bait
fauna is love

>>19504591
>>19504032
IRyS needs a cute model.

>>19505976
>mumei is actually a cunt
QRD?

>>19501265
Bae got the best model. I just wanna stick my dick in all of it.

>>19507498
based

they won my heart lads

Many reasons
>Unlike Myth, they didn't have first move advantage. Council debuted when people are already familiar with vtubers.
>Safe pick, no one from them really stand out and carry the rest. There was Kronii but she sabotaged herself so bad to the point people lost interest in her.
>Their lore and character setting held them back, Bae is the worst case.
>All of them are part-time contractors, they don't put much effort into their content or maintaining consistency.
But anyway they are doing a great job as supporting cast and being Myth's accessories.

EN was a mistake. They should've hired english speaking japs. Western vtubing is a mistake and this EOP/reddit back alley board is also a mistake.

>>19507694
How did Kronii sabotaged herself?

>>19507761
They did that with Irys.

Kronii is wasting her Wadarco cred.

>>19507275
She's a man-hating feminist, so havign exposed tatas and catering to men is against her values.

Knowing this, guess which job she applied to?

>>19507412
Her roommate was very explicit about not wanting the parasocial relationship chasers.

>>19508177
I wonder how she would feel knowing her sexy voice alone can make me rock hard then.

Which gen does IRYS belong to?

>>19508273
None. She's her own thing.

>>19508255
I'm pretty sure her man-hating is like MTGOW (ugly girls become manhaters because chad turned them down once) and she built her identity on being a loser. It turning out that if she tried a little, she could have gotten with brad, probably disturbs and upsets her because it means her entire life of suck is actually her own fault. And that's why she doesn't stream.

>>19508236
>very explicit about not wanting the parasocial relationship chasers.
Based. There's nothing more cringe than actually thinking a chuuba cares about you.

>>19508273
Myth
Hope
Council

These are the """generations""", but Hope is one chick. Also she has no obligations to stream, she streams because she enjoys it.

>>19501265
The fact that I have to share Bae with Irys.

>>19507185
She will still beat IRyS that's for sure

>>19506597
False + L

>>19506597
Mumei at least has the excuse of being in school.

>>19507976
Irys is only a jap by descent, she is actually American.

>>19508273
She's a Vsinger, not a Vtuber. Technically.

I like Mumei

>>19507874
She didn't think people would want to watch her do mindless repetitive tasks in Minecraft

>>19503422
There are no straight vtubers

>>19509095
:D

>>19509095
>:D

>>19506479
Like fucking clock work.
Holo JP streamers are the same as EN. They streams consist of 70% cute noise and 30% sucking ass at video games.

>>19509944
Post the latest zatsudan you watched

>>19504941
Sana as Vsinger?! IRyS with nigger model? holy shit no

>>19510044
IRyS's model is honestly more wonky thank Sana's and helps prove that Sana's low numbers aren't just from a model debuff.

>>19510118
It helps that Irys doesn't have a fucking godawful accent and voice. Like holy shit Bae has an accent but she doesn't usually talk like she has shit in her mouth.

>>19510118
>>19510202
if only irys got either mumei or fauna model... or.. kronii since she's doesn't want that

>>19509944
>he lacks critical information

>what went wrong
their designs

>>19501265
Irys stole their debut buff.

>>19510202
Irys' bae impression was great, way better than the other way around.

>>19501265
Cringe lore. Even Ironmouse/Bubi was better written.

>>19501265
Retirement home gen.

>>19507138
Kronii hates her model's tits because she larps as genderfluid or some made-up bullshit """"""gender"""""" like all the other stupid women her age who are terminally online.

>>19501265
>wHaT wEnT wRoNG ?
>insert pic here

>wHaT wEnT wRoNG ?
>insert pic here
>here comes the timeloop again

>>19510044
Sana as vsinger would work because then her never streaming would just be part for the course.

>>19501265
The scouting department

>>19512960
Do people actually hate bae?

>>19513158
Who?

I haven't browsed /vt/ for months later but people are still using debut complaints? That "lore" shitick stopped being relevant after their second stream, get at least a bit more up to date (and that's coming from someone that hasn't browsed for months holy fuck).

>>19513233
Your future Gen 3 if Cover gets their shit together

Sana doesnt even show her feet. What a waste of feet model. I wish we had sanas feet. Feet.

>>19513171
just sarcasm
she saved feb when more than half of holoen (preparing for off collab stuff) didnt stream + when goomba got sick

hard to hate a passionate chuuba which is rare nowadays

>>19513480
>just sarcasm
The one true weakness to an autist.
But yeah, Bae has been great and can't wait for her to be back.

>>19501265
your mother didn't keep her legs together.

>>19513418
Sane feet good.

>>19501265
Sana hasn't come to America to marry me yet.

>>19509022
Isn't she a hafu?

Hired a bunch of lazy used up women.

>>19501265
sana
mumei

>>19501265
Rrat

>>19509261
All women are perfectly willing to scissor each other. Some need less alcohol than others.

tried some of them to see whats going on, they were saying "bro" and "yo" too frequently then i got turned off and never looked back.

>>19521927
Pretty sure that was just Kronii, maybe Bae

I hate Bratz who say that Barlz, who is always in this thread, is okay. Most of the stream in feb that were not interest were just a means of making money on her birthday. Her stream is just noisy and not fun. So she can't even make 500K subscrib on birthday.

>>19508425
Except Kronii is the most socialized out of all the girls, she just doesn't like coomers.

>>19508255
That's why she uses her kimono outfit more than her original. And she's right, her voice and charisma carry her I'm a thighs guy anyway

>>19501265
They're all way too girly. You need to at least have a little bit of tomboy in your personality or some sort of relatability about yourself that both genders could enjoy.

>>19501265
Hiring entitled western women.

>>19523169
Being oversocialized on twitter is not the same thing as being a socialite.

>>19507761
>They should've hired english speaking japs
Are you sure about that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt7v3yY2XeA

I got you
>Fauna
ASMR Vtuber who isn’t even good at ASMR she was a generic Vtuber before she’s a generic Vtuber now probably more lazy than Gura
>Sana
Lazy bitch have no idea why Hololive took hiring advice from the most boring one in Myth. Artist who doesn’t draw shit.
>Bae
The only good one but now she’s doing Yuri baiting that’s obviously fake as hell.
>Kronii
Boring as shit
>Mumei
Also boring as shit, personality of a paper bag, drab, somehow more boring than Gura, hired because Hololive saw a big Number.

Pissing off Susan and the algorithm. X was far more successful because it was not hyped up and dropped out of the blue. Their channels were up forever, gaining over 200k subs but with no videos. Youtube marked them as spam and suspicious accounts and kept cleaving off subs and hiding them away so that only those balls deep into Cover stuff even knew about them.

>>19523627
You don't really like Gura

>>19523709
Nah I’m just saying she’s boring and lazy doesn’t mean I dislike her she just… is.

I love Fauna to bits and I enjoy Moomers' weirdness tbqh

>>19501265
Question is: where is "he"? You think with Council losing this much traction, they'd finally get around to debuting their "main villain" to drum up interest again.

>>19501265
Kronii kneecapped herself by refusing to stream her minecraft no-lifing period and using it as an excuse for zatsudans. She also failed to take advantage of the model buff she has, because she forgot that sex sells. Even Mori knows to whip out the girls every now and then.

Sana actually had enough charisma and talent to overcome her model debuff; but then shot herself in the head by forgetting that taking a 1 week vacation in Australia would stick her in quarantine Hell. That week became a month and she hasn't recovered.

Mumei is a victim of Omega's lore faggotry, as she can't really even play into her own theme without worrying about some county getting ass mad. Being a student is actually a buff because her content is just her escaping her day to day and having fun.

Fauna is the most underrated member of Council and is arguably the best one. Her content is just really niche, but it works.

Baelz is the biggest victim of the lore crap because she is probably the OPPOSITE of chaotic. She's still up there with Fauna as probably the best of council.

>>19501265
Sana killed the vibe of the team

>>19512795
The source of your rrat is her saying "my gender is obvious" in a ama. Die screaming.

>>19523627
Now I know you're a clipfag

>>19501391
That's what made Myth too autistic to function in groups.

>>19501265
The only problem is Sana's model, everything else is good

>>19501815
me, i am

>>19513158
IMAGINE Peari + Nina duet with Jelly composing... Instant KINO.

Sorry Lumi, you're the only one out of place.

>>19508236
>>19507412
Cringe. vtubing is about that parasocial relationship with chat, without it vtubing is trash

They forget to replace Sana with IRyS.
Pretty sure its gonna be fixed soon.

>>19503755
based anon flexing his harem

>>19501265
Sana

>>19502477
>Kronii hates men
>Mumei is retarded
>Bae is a tryhard
>Fauna is married
>Sana doesn't stream

>>19505617
Fauna is one the best in council.

>>19509944
If you think the EN girls are even close to be as good as the JP, then you're fucking retarded.

>>19528788
shame about the yab, huh?

>>19528876
Not for me.
Married women are just my type.

>>19528876
Faufau is for mommying, not wifeing

Mumei loves streaming is the one that actually gets mad when it's impossible for her to stream, had an early debuff over lore shit but now that she changed her character to the ''cute girl that has dark tastes and sense of humor'' she is improving

Bae is the one that loves vtubers the most, my opinion on her is increasing a lot these past few days but her voice and loud personality is hard to deal with

Fauna is just pretty okay, if you like someone that talks with her chat a lot she is perfect but she still needs more moments to shine outside of her asmr videos

Kronii's autism is just too strong girl keeps debuffing herself when she had the potential to be together with Gura and Mori at the top

Sana waste of a slot and waste of a good papa

Hololive's english branch is shit. The fact that there are EOP's who are Hololive-only boggles the mind.

Prism Project has MORE English Vtubers than Hololive does. And many of them are well worth checking out. But hololive-onlies are so completely obsessed with hololive, that they will refuse. Even though their English branch is so weak.

>>19529689
I stopped watching because of Council and went to all the smaller chuuba companies with a presence in /vt/ and really liked what I saw. My personal favorite company is cyberlive because of how much freedom the girls have there, but honestly, there's a ton of good talent that are much better than anyone in Council.

Shame about Council, but their shittiness opened doors for me.

>>19504032
The model itself is shit. Wada is a fucking hack

>>19501265
They forgot to stream

Half a dozen vtuber corporations

Nijisanji EN: 20 English vtubers
Tsunderia: 14 English vtubers
Prism Project: 12 English vtubers
Production Kawaii: 10 English vtubers
Cyberlive: 9 English vtubers
Phase Connect: 7 English vtubers

Total: 72 English vtubers
And that doesn't count all the hundreds of independent vtubers on Twitch.

You are going to ignore ALL of these English vtubers, just to focus on the 11 English vtubers that hololive has. Half of whom never stream. And several of whom are unwatchable. There's maybe 5 or 6 watchable English vtubers in Hololive.

>>19508236
Sounds based to me.

>>19529618
Bae seems like she combines the best parts of Kirara and Ollie while not having their downsides.

>>19524375
Do your reps and you'll see he's right.

>>19501265
fixed for you
t. former sanallite

>>19528876
What yab? She's not Rushia so we cultured saplings support her.

>>19503590
>Bae hates men
Isn't she a huge fan of holostars, especially Roberu?

>>19530488
Seriously? I think she has only collected the bad parts of Kiara.

>>19530114
>You are going to ignore
Yes. Not out of disdain or prejudice, but because I'm certain the timeline where I watch Nene Amano with any regularity is the timeline where I am charged with kidnapping and forced marriage, and I die in a shootout with the police, bleeding out on the ground while holding a lock of her hair to my chest.

>>19512795
>a wada arco model wasted on a troon
>a huke model wasted on a menhera
they are going to waste all my favorite artists on mongoloids one at a time aren't they

Baelz has no planning ability like Kiara, no talk ability, and no affection for her group. And she loves Roberu so much. don't compare.

>>19530866
Her general shtick, design, and content are waaay too intimate for me if I know for sure she's married. Just makes it weird. It's a different thing from when it's a musician like AZKi where the boundaries of what she's doing are clearly defined from the start.

Then again I might just be projecting... I'm a massive sucker for 'big titty mommy nature' designs like her, so her model raises all my parasocial flags and then some even before she opens her mouth.

>>19506531
she's hongkong, the difference is like Ukrainian and Russian

>>19501265
Baelz is pretty good, Fauna did ASMR as promised, the rest are mediocre but would be passable if they streamed more regularly.

>>19523627
>Artist who doesn’t draw shit.
her AK toon is pretty based, odds are that she had her hands full with it

>>19501265
Once again, Cover took too long to gather talents for Council and let all of the other EN corpos snatch up the good options. And with all of the other companies starting to see growth, I'm afraid they may be too late with gathering people for EN3 too.
The best way forward is to pull a Myth and get more outsiders and non-vtubers.

>>19501265
Kronii and mumei duo is pure kino

>>19531326
Fauna would be perfect if not for that one flaw. I'll support her for helping the other girls do asmr, though.

>>19524274
Mumei and Baelz should have switched models. Mumei has some strong Skaven energy under the sleepy facade and Baelz would do better as a calm owlybird.
>Rat Mumei will will never whip her view-watchers into a hatefrenzy to conquer the manthings

>>19531973
That’s fucking suck

>>19504485
Kronii's chat is entertaining because Kronii turned them all into homosexuals and they accuse each other of gaslighting.