/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>the same thread
>twice every day

>>19472073
At least someone is putting in some effort in regards of Sana.

Capricornbros...she didn't even do a bread horoscope for us...

>>19472172
He cares more about Sana not streaming than Sana, her fans, or the company she works for does.

>Pokemon perms gone
>Genshin has an event starting or something
She's going to be gone a while.

>>19472021
I'm doing the 17 days thread tomorrow

I wish Sana can schedule a stream so we can bring back /nasa/. Made a ton of progress in /vtwbg/.

>>19472021
GIVE IT UP FOR DAY 17

>>19472810
sure thing ill let you make the thread tomorrow

be sure to add
>A month since last members stream
since I forgot

Aren't they under contract to make at least 3 streams per week?

>>19472971
Oh, I am not a member so idk. I will just let you post tomorrow

>>19473096
Nepotism does away with that contract business.

>>19473096
It's a requirement during the auditions, I don't know it's actually in their contract.

>>19472842
Too busy retweeting fanart every hour on her roommate's account and playing Genshin. But keep that membership going for the heckin cuterino cinnamon roll!

Why doesn't she stream? Did she give a reason last stream?

>>19473222
none

in fact last stream she announced "im back"

>>19472021
take your meds, countingschizo.

>>19472971
>A month since last members stream
I can't imagine anyone being her member at this point. Just why? How many member streams did she even make in the 6 months? 5? 6?

>>19473222
busy on roommate twitter retweeting and liking fanarts

>>19472021
I don't like sana but her design makes me diamonds. Anyone know the sauce of the pic?

Unsubbed

Was looking forward to February's horoscopes too

When she does come back I wonder if anyone will even bother turning up? I unsubscribed from her. I don't need to watch someone every 2 months who doesn't care

>>19474068
gura clearly didnt care about elden ring but you still watched

>>19474068
I've never seen the point of unsubscribing from someone for not uploading anything. It's not like she's cluttering up your sub box or anything. Assuming she isn't streaming while I'm asleep, with the wigger, or some other shit I can't stand watching, I'd probably drop in.

>>19474301
the point that anon was trying to make was clearly just that she doesnt give a shit about her fans after all the support so its not even worth supporting her any more.

>>19473269
>>
>in fact last stream she announced "im back"
jesas

>>19474301
probably talking about paid membership

>>19472286
Sad everyone else gave up on her, even herself.

>>19472021
irys bday is coming up she will show up again

>>19474847
showing up to birthday stream =/= stream of your own

>>19472021
how long before cover announces she has left hololive?

>>19472021
i'm here to repeat the rrat that she already resigned some time in january and cover asked her to pretend she's still onboard until 3rd fes is over so people will buy all the council merch they already stocked up

>>19475780
I believe it

>>19475780
wouldn't surprise me
she can spend all day retweeting artfag stuff on twitter but can't stream one goddamn time in 2 weeks?

>>19474847
Has she ever even interacted with Irys on stream? I can't remember. Has she collabed with everyone in EN yet?

>>19474100
Oh was it that bad?
Why did she even play it? For the numbers?

Sana love

I just hope that wherever she is, she's doing okay

>>19475891
She made the mistake of thinking she could handle criticism and came /here/
Now everything that's been said about her (ugly model, boring streams, bad sense of humor, lazy, etc) haunts her, it's gotten so bad it's making her physically ill.
She can't even interact with her viewers without thinking that somewhere in their midst are the haters that said those things about her.

It's taking all she got to deliberately and completely avoid any of her Hololive business until she's able to climb out of this pit.
If she ever manages to.

>>19476281
sad if that is actually the case
everyone has haters when they are in the public eye in entertainment, but she has hundreds of thousands of followers that watch and enjoy her
she's talented and entertaining when she does it and I'm not even that big a fan

>>19476281
>She made the mistake of thinking she could handle criticism and came /here/
any proof?

>>19476432
Proof? I thought we just peddling rrats here

>>19476458
my bad, continue my good anon

>>19472021
Legit question are people still join her membership? For what reason?

>>19476498
You can't fight gravity anon, sanallites just get pulled into her orbit

>>19476498
People genuinely like her, and if they weren't aware of how active her roommate is, it's easy for them to just think "she might be unwell, I wish her the best and will continue supporting her, I hope she returns soon"

Meanwhile sana's rm continues to peddle her gacha dogs on Twitter 24/7 while sanalites wonder where she is

>>19472021
what if she didnt shower through out those 16 days
imagine the smell

>>19475780
I can save her

>>19476498
To be the last Sanallite! I had fun while she was active but even I can tell shes checked out. Might just go for the 6 month badge and then swap to Bae or Irys

>>19476730
Damn what a waste of opportunity..

>>19476498
I was until a few days ago when I remembered the payment coming up, I wanted to unmember her a month ago but I gave her yet another chance because of unity or some shit. All of council takes constant breaks but at least they have the decency to update their fans.

>>19476841
How often is her membership stream? Like for real though i found her pretty funny but damn does she really don't give a fuck about it. I mean the other hololive members just as busy as her.

>>19472286
He cares more about Sana not streaming than Sana cares about her job.

give me pisces holoscope sana...

>>19477114
Out of the 5 months of membership we had 9. 2 Movie watchalongs and rest were good starts to simple streams that weren't 12 hours long. One was literally just her working with some small banter, which was great as she can't share gacha work but we at least got to interact with her

>>19476730
>Meanwhile sana's rm
I don't know her roomate's twitter but even Sana's twitter is more active than her YouTube. Honestly I have no clue how her fans are okay with this.
As of now she has the least streams from council at 72, with only her and Kronii having under 100 vods. Yet Kronii (87 streams) at least has the excuse of dealing with a shit pc, doing twitter spaces with fans while waiting to fix said pc, breaking out her old shit pc for a post-MV stream, spending time making an original song, and actually meeting members of EN irl.
I don't even hate Sana. I feel nothing toward Sana, because she's never around long enough for me to figure out what I think of her.

>>19477112
Well its seems you have look to another oshi rather than waiting for nothing. Then again is all your money.

>>19475312
They will announce membership group paizuri correction

>>19477397
Exactly this how are you gusy fine with it.

>>19477397
>Honestly I have no clue how her fans are okay with this.
she doesnt have fans

Her roommate twitter are full of armpit and dog posting, she literally ignore her fans. At this point , she really will leave holo next month or april because u know what april is for japanese.

Ina's roommate despite have similiar case, busy with her chincong gacha games commission, ina still active and interact with her fans.

No ones will make any drama if sana literally walk out from holo, what a waste of slot

More than half a month and her model is still ugly.

>>19477559
No ones fine with it. You either move on or holdout for an return and explanation. I noticed the other council girls are apologizing for the lack of streams even if only a day or two. Makes you wonder what is really going on

>>19477696
Someone need to tell her, i think some of her genmate already did tell her.

>>19477942
Oh I'm sure they know. I've adopted the rrat that they are waiting till after the festival to announce her indefinate hiatus. Now would disrupt the festival and she can still do art for them so no need to graduate/fire her.

>>19478096
lmao cover trying to maintain the hype and then rushia and nene happened

>>19476417
When you are successful for so long you forget about how mean people can be. Starting again in a new account without even showing your main talent because burnout can be really hard. It's been too long since you had to deal with that kind of hardship and criticism. In reality Sana as an indie vtuber would have been a 2view. And to get out of that hole and improve takes patience, time, streaming, and ignoring all the haters until they notice your blossoming.

Being a Hololive girl means standing on the corpses of every 2view, who will now be wondering what does the woman that beat her bring to the table and is ready to gossip about her anonymously when they aren't satsisfied with the result. Kiara's biggest hater ever was a goddamn woman that was mad at Kiara being chosen for HoloEN instead of her.

I bet many of her legit haters are just women salty that she's squandering an opportunity they would have killed for

>>19478298
I'm under the impression that most vtuber hates and dramafags are women. There's a reason /vt/ sisters is a thing. If you think the men here give a shit about drama and junk you're mental or attract fags. Majority of the rrats here are posted by 2views and jealous e-girls to afraid to get mauled by the twitter hugbox.

>>19478298
For kiara she seems to work hard for her career, it's a little bit unfair for her to get the hate.

For sana though...

>>19478392
Then you have Eggman, a literal morbidly fat neckeard divorcee wasting every walking moment hating on Kiara instead of fixing his life. At least Orcschizo looked good and had talents despite the absolute insanity and malice. Eggman is just pathetic and clearly just trying to bully an easy target since he has so little control of his life.
What I mean is, antis on this board are either salty women whose potential for evil knows no limit, or bored losers with nothing else to waste their time on.

>>19478511
Yeah Kiara streams 8 hours every day and tries really hard. She's legit one of the girls that has streamed the most overall in all of Hololive. She might be a bit grating but she's deeply grateful for the opportunity since she has tasted rock bottom irl and knows how good she has it now.
Whenever another one of the girls, especially those that have lived easy lives starts acting haughty or better than their audience, I can only think how they never knew real hardship and struggle and are just womanchildren who won the e-lottery.

>>19477687
That never stopped IRyS

>>19472021
Serious question: why did she even apply for Hololive? I can't imagine that she didn't know she'll still have a shit ton of other art related work, so why not just do that?

>>19472021
the most reddit holo next to funny taiwan dragon

>>19479048
> "Hey my friend is doing something that looks easy and she is now rich and famous. I can do that too!"
> Couldn't do it

Is this Sana thread?

>>19479048
I keep seeing a rrat that Ina used nepotism to get her in but I've seen no proof. Also Ina never talks to her or about her.

>>19479426
Hi welcome to /nasa/

Literally the only downside of her graduation will be less SEXXXXXXXXXXXX fanart

Timeloop the thread.

>>19479534
Her milk tasted like oreo if you ask me

>>19478677
Ah great kfp is here already, abandon thread.
Kiara isn't even that bad anymore but her fanbase is still a shit stain from the years they spent being hyper defensive of her

>>19479602
Not a fan of kiara but i appreciate her hard work even though she's kinda annoying in collab

Wtf is happening to Hololive? Did Yagoo decide to Hire every woman who’s IQ is lower than a 1?

>>19479465
>I keep seeing a rrat that Ina used nepotism to get her in but I've seen no proof
What happened is Sana applied, probably got through one or two interviews, Ina put in a good word for her and whether or not it was THE deciding factor, it probably played a small part.

She wouldnt have automatically walked in off the recommendation of Ina, but Ina certainly vouched for her.

>Also Ina never talks to her or about her.
No one talks about her because she hasnt left enough of an impression on anyone. Most mentioning of other girls comes through streams the other member did that they watched or in other interactions through collabs. Sana doesnt stream enough for other girls to watch and doesnt go out of her way to collab. Shes just totally forgotten about by everyone, including her roommate it seems.

Just graduate Sana and swap IRyS into Council instead, its only been 6 months everyone will forget about it in a year and IRyS feels like shes part of council anyway

>>19472021
gloved handjobs

>>19479602
>years
It's been a little over ONE year, anon. You got Covidbrain?

>>19479048
Easy, guaranteed money unless you rape someone or mention Taiwan on stream or make a fuck up so big the company can't brush it under the rug.

Hell, I thought of applying and I've got a pair of balls that would put a Tanuki to shame

>>19479807
>No one talks about her because she hasnt left enough of an impression on anyone
Fauna just mentioned her in a member stream last night but that's because Fauna loves her gen and being in holo.

Sanalites will never understand

>>19477590
She still has Joel Z and that one dude that draws daily headpat stuff for her. Let's see how many people will be stupid enough to remember her when she comes back.

>>19473909
she hasnt had a horoscopes in 3 months or so, pretty sure that's been dropped.

>>19480689
>Drawing daily Sana headpat till she streams. (Day 16)

I'm usually dismissive of this type of post since it's nearly always schizo shit, but it's even at the point where /nasa/ aren't making threads anymore until she streams, so actual fans are pissed.
I wonder what's going on with her. It's not like she doesn't have a viewer base. A lot of indies and small corpos would kill for those numbers. She was even one of the highest earning in council at one point iirc.

>>19472021
Don't care if she has loads of work. Then why even bother applying for Hololive.

>>19480827
She's just doesn't care.
Check her roommate's Twitter, she's very alive, very active

sana is fucking ayame with her massive futa cock right now.

>>19480827
She literally just doesnt want to do it anymore imo. All the other girls at least explain their absences - Fauna even took her laptop to her family house on over christmas to stream so saplings werent left high and dry. She will graduate - this is not schizo rambling this is an inevatible fact.

Everyday until you hate her?

>>19480802
dude is on day 46. He started the headpat thing after her Kimono reveal.

I don't think Sana is paying attention to them, either.

>>19472286
>OP is the one anon who still hasn't given up on her
>tirelessly he keeps the flame lit even as Sana herself does nothing but play chink gachas
>why does he do it

>>19473096
They probably gave up

>hiring a bogan
Oh no no no..

>>19479807
this is just so fucking wrong
IRyS is Myth, she was brought in because Myth needed a good musician

>>19481117
roommate is chinese

>>19481117
anonchama....your roommate reps.

>>19472021
It's ok anon, that's 100 Cancer behaviour. She has to wait for the next blood moon to fix her stuff or her chakras will fuck up.

>>19481117
It would be good, anon...

>>19481221
>>19481238
>hiring a zhang with the mentality of a bogan
Oh no no no...

Is Genshin that good? should I give it a try?

>>19481372
it was a bad choice either way but a worse choice to become a sanalite, could be worse could be a deadbeta

>>19481407
> "cooler than hololive and my fans"
~ sana, probably

>>19481372
I mean Bae is crushing it. The problem is that Sana is already successful, has an ego, and couldn't handle her first months of failure. Ina is kinda similar in that she handles criticism really bad but she's also self aware so she self corrects on her own

>>19481407
Its addicting like all gacha shit. only play it if you have a NEET enough life to.

>>19480827
I'm on the same boat. I actually enjoyed watching her too so I'm very far from an anti, but there really is no point in being in Hololive if she won't stream.

I love Sana, I will wait forever

lining up for centrelink with Sana!
Pumping more children into Sana so we get more in child support benefits!
Reading horoscopes that say to never stream!
Applying for Queensland flood victim money, spending it on XXXX longnecks!

Imagine being an indie who actually enjoys streaming and making it far into the audition process only to be passed over in favour of this bitch.

>>19481407
No
>story is terribly bland
>everything is behind layers of RNG
>characters are fucking expensive
>female characters are censored with diapers
It's also extremely unfriendly towards new players

>>19481956
>Some newbie with heart and an appetite for doing her best and dreaming to interact with all the other hololive members.
>Gets passed over for an artist who doesn't even do art streams, or any streams for that matter.
As gens are finite and the gap for the next one (if there's a next one) is usually long, Sana really fucked it up for someone, huh?

>>19481146
>IRyS is Myth
Truth, but Hope is needed elsewhere

>>19481407
Unless you can find something you like about it, then no. It's predatory and works off FOMO for characters and weapons, while autists have shown that the game can easily be played with the initial characters.
And I say that as a fag who has put more than a few dollars into it.

>>19480727
>Tfw you think Sana will be the underdog of her gen
>Turns out it's her dog that's 6ft under

Didn't even notice between the Pokemon spam, maybe she'll earn my sub back but I think I'll stick to my 3viewers for now

>>19473222
Infinitely dying dogs. Please undastand.

>>19481407
The girls are great as fap material. I jack off a lot to goat tits and the mortician flatty.

>>19473200
I wonder if she would stream more if she was NijiEN and could play Genshin on stream.

>>19474847
She won’t. She didn’t for Ame, what makes you think she will for IRyS?

>>19482301
This too. Hu Tao's legs gets the degenerate buff from artists and flat girls with big asses are 10/10 content.

>>19482301
I'm probably too used to gacha designs, because I find all the female designs below average at best

I wonder what she feels when she sees comments from the few remaining Sanallites praising her for her passion for stuff
At some point I did believe, but her actions (or lack thereof) as of late say otherwise

>>19480827
Cover already let her know they are not renewing her contract, her birthday will be her last stream
Shitposting aside I cant wait to see how awkward her birthday stream will be

>31 days
>More than a month

>>19482604
>deflecting

has reddit or turned on her yey? they are usualy the last frontier of yesman, twitter is already on her ass as far as i can tell.

>>19482788
Go to Reddit if you are so interested and stay there while you are at it.

>>19482788
reddit never cared for Sana to begin with. Literally every other girl gets talked about more on there than her.

>>19482788

Is dissent over anything even permitted on r/hololive?

>>19482546
Cute that you think there'll be a birthday stream.

amateurs

>>19482788
>twitter is on her ass
Source? Also she’s basically non-existent on Reddit iirc

>>19482788
Nobody cares except the people in here

>>19482959
it's hard to find twitter post about her since some kpop chick comes up when you use Sana. But people are starting to @ her a bit, /vt/ shitposting twitters are talking about her, and the comments on her latest vods are wondering about her absence.

>>19482928
He streamed on Monday.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWYZq35K0R8

>>19482788
>twitter is already on her ass
>it's literally just one guy posting a couple of hours ago
It might even be you posting those tweets, stop shilling your account nigger

>>19482913
I honestly hope so, just imagine the meltdown if we have a >XX days since her last stream thread that same day

>>19482788
That subreddit will never turn on the talents. Even if someone commits a murder there'll be undoubtedly people saying that there must be a reason for it and they deserve to know it kek

>>19482210
>not the hero council deserves
>but the hero council needs
Irystocrats...I kneel

>>19478392
And yet you’re here in a thread full of grown men gossiping oh sorry I mean “peddling rrats”

>>19483095
and it was kino, but besides that
>425 days

>>19483095

>>19482494
Sana reading comments. Haha good one anon.

>>19482788
No. https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/t49j8d/is_sana_currently_on_a_break/
>>19483231
I would rather say, they would only turn on talent if situation ends up being chuuba vs chuuba. Like with HoloCN.

>>19483231
They did turn on Rushia and are even scolding nene right now

>>19482711
deflecting what. Mugi hasn't streamed in over a month. I thought this was the thread to complain about vtubers who don't do their jobs?

>>19480920
the least she can do is keep people updated. I'm sure no one would be as upset as they are now if she had the decency to do that.
If she has the time to talk all day on her RM twitter than she has the time to send out a tweet, and unpin her old ass schedule on her Hololive twitter.

>>19483872
They turned on Rushia? Last time I saw it was OUR CUTE NECROMANCER HURR IDOL CULTURE DURRR SHE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DATE WHOEVER SHE WANTS HHHHUUUUUURRRRRRR

>>19473909
>literally said she lost motivation because of a few people taking them too seriously
>never did Scorpio
lol

>>19484244
He's referencing termination thing. But it's more of understanding why and taking Cover side, than turning on Rushia.

>>19483257
Seethe more 2view

>>19484276
This girl folds more than an origami piece.

I'm sure there were some schizos that took Mio's tarrot cards too seriously and she never stopped. Sana doesn't have much of an audience where 1 or 2 people taking it too seriously should matter.

God I miss this bitch's fat tits

>during the half anniversary the girls had plenty of fun moments to look back on
>except Sana who just repeated her shtick about headpats and types of bread
>all her jokes about her genmates were really old, near-debut references
>her birthday is coming up

>>19483872
The Rushia thread for the first 2 days or so was pretty much 50% braindead white knights and 50% accepting her expulsion from my memory. Perhaps the consensus has changed since then. Only saw a few brainless defending comments in Nene's thread, so you're right on that.

>>19480941
Very unprofessional. What a waste.

>no Kuso Mondays because she gave it a no-no name
>no Holoscopes because she got her feelings hurt
>denied the telescope launching stream
>never really wanted to do art streams
>less than 10 member streams
>a whole month without one
>dropped a bunch of games because of Pokemon
>Pokemon permissions ended
>Kirby isn't out until the end of March
>new Pokemon announced for 2022

>>19472021
I too miss Sana

>>19484672
>Bae dropping in and out for half the stream
>still a bigger presence than sana
>screencaps with Sana cropped out but not afk Bae
I kneel...

>>19484839
>>no Kuso Mondays because she gave it a no-no name
>>no Holoscopes because she got her feelings hurt
>>denied the telescope launching stream
>>never really wanted to do art streams
all rrats

I get more enjoyment out of these threads than I would if Sana streamed

>>19475989
>Why did she even play it? For the numbers?
Guessing that members kept on bugging her to. Gura was probably thinking about Vampire Survivors while playing Elden Ring.

>>19472021
Actual wasted spot on a nepotism hire. Nepotism isn't even inherently a bad thing, NijiEN has a bunch of those and they're doing extremely well. But you have to wonder how much potential kino we missed out on if Cover didn't listen to Ina's shitty suggestion Hopefully Omega banned Ina from participating in the audition process after this mess.

>>19475989
bro she attacked the first npc that she came across and then proceeded to fight him until she killed him for like an hour (i don't know if she ever did kill him). she could have just literally walked away. i couldn't watch. i think she did it for the clippers

>>19475780
Seems like the most logical explanation since I can't see how keeping Sana on in this capacity would be good as it sets a bad precedent.

>>19475312
>ayame
cover wont

>>19485255
she actually did beat Varre lmao
https://youtu.be/i67BoIctAMk?t=5318

>>19485503
Unlike Sana, at least Ayame put her time in for the first couple of years when Hololive wasn't big.

>>19481407
If you're an early adopter it's fine. If you're a new player you get fucked because all the things that give you free gacha pulls are gated behind AR 30 or some shit.

>>19485527
oh it didn't take her that long after all, that's good.

>>19484672
isnt her birthday in june? thats still a long time from now.

She really is the space holo... the waste of space holo

>>19481023
>OP is the one anon who still hasn't given up on her
Is this how retards justify shitposting these days?

>>19485255
That was kino though

>>19484521
It's probably not just 1 or 2 people. Sana once mentioned Kronii offered to be in a holoscope episode, but Sana ultimately said no because she feared the negativity she was getting from holoscopes would carry over to Kronii too.

>>19486950
from what I saw, the backlash from horoscopes wasn't extreme or anything but I guess I don't see what's going on behind the scenes.
To me, it just sounds like an excuse. Sad because it helped her stand out, and was fun to watch on Friday mornings.

>>19486106
I don't think 5 or so solo streams between week long breaks is gonna build much to talk about

>>19487087
The reality of numbers is that no one was really watching them. VODs have like 50-70k and that's despite the fact that they were released in honeymoon period aka debut buff.

>>19485255
>baka does baka things
>"ugh I can't watch this"
you are the retard

>>19487087
>>19487428
Maybe this is just me but mentioning horoscopes are the quickest way to make me lose interest in a person. I don't know why it's so distasteful but after seeing that Sana was doing those J never watched her again. The only stream on hers I ever caught was I Am Bread.

>>19484555
Same, I want choccy milk

>>19487428
That's probably the main reason, her horoscopes streams were ridiculously unpopular compared to the other girls' content and even her own streams.
Some anon compared them to Mio's tarrot card prediction streams, but the main difference between them is that Mio is interacting with other holos, so hearing their reactions to Mio's reading (and how they're going to fuck up later) is quite fun.
But Sana's streams were just... boring.

Is there any way Sana could recover her numbers even if she wanted to?

>>19487812
Absolutely.
Korone's debut was a fucking disaster and she was lagging pretty badly behind everyone else in Gamers, first impressions are reaaally important.
However, she still managed to catch up to them and become wildly successful all over the world.

>>19487428
Because she streamed at absolute shit times. Her whole fucking debut week she streamed over Gura or 5am EST. No one is going to wake up early for fucking horoscopes.

>>19487812
>>19487867
Yeah, but she's going to have to work REALLY hard for that.
Korone did a ridiculous amount of endurance streams on all kind of games, always tried to play something new and original, and even completely unexpected games sometimes.
So unless Sana is willing to work that hard, it probably won't happen.
Hell, Korone fucking broke her finger while playing Battletoads for 14 hours recently...

Potential rrat - her graduation was decided already, so she is putting in no effort because she's already effectively done. Cover could be holding back on announcing it to time it with a future event or delaying the public notification because of the Rushia situation.

>>19488015
Korone is some kind of demigod though

>>19487812
>Is there any way Sana could recover her numbers even if she wanted to?
Her numbers post-debut buff was like in the low 3k. If you're asking if she can climb to Fauna territory (6k+), then no; she's not going to put in the effort required to get that kind of incline.

>>19488138
Counter point Aki

>>19485038
>literally expressed disappointment about not even being able to namedrop the telescope
Come on, she doesn't even have that many streams to go through

>>19488080
I would buy this mostly because the Hololive brand basically does nothing for her like it does Ina. Only Fauna out of everyone in EN even mentions her existence.

>>19487612
>>19487428
I personally enjoyed them, and she seemed to have a passion for creating them, but I understand why it wasn't anyones cup of tea.
Would've respected her keeping up with it regardless of how people felt about it, but this shows me that she's full of it when she tries to act like her low numbers don't bug her.

>>19487968
I'm talking about VODs not CCV. It's not about her live views, but about how many watch that streams at all. From back then to today.

>>19487812
Korone and Miko were runts and now they are powerhouses. She just needs to keep streaming until something sticks

This is all nice but I miss Sana

>>19488249
Yeah, that fits. If they slowly unperson her while she doesn't stream herself then the graduation announcement will be a soft blow. A lot of people will have legitimately forgot she exists and the handful of actual fans left would have a softer blow because she would have effectively graduated already. If that does end up being the case it would be kind of scummy to keep memberships open though.

She's barely above Homos, this is quite sad.
It's funny how she's still climbing slightly faster than them, even though her daily / monthly views are way lower.

>>19487812
This is her channel over the past 3 months:
>Pokemon 9 streams (7 endurance)
>Metroid 1 stream
>Holoscope 1 stream
>Shill stream 1 stream
>Minecraft 1 stream
>Events 5 streams
>ACH 2 streams (1 endurance)
>Collabs 3 streams
She only streamed 3 times on the past month of those 23 streams, and of those streams Holoscope seems to be dead, they no longer have pokemon permissions, ACH and metroid would not recover her numbers and I doubt she would get anything to shill on her channel.
So basically she would need a whole new approach to her channel to both convince new people to stay and to bring the people she lost on the past few months, so I doubt we will see any sight of recovery this year if any at all before she leaves

i only support Sana because giantess fanart desu

>>19486106
I don't know, time passes by fast in these covid times. I hope she can get it together because if not the Birthday stream will be awkward as shit.
Unless there's tons of behind the scenes interactions to make up for it, I'm not sure what there even is to discuss.

waste of space, that was pomu's spot she took btw

>>19488520
I doubt she'll make it that long. I'm expecting the announcement soon after holofes. It would be kind of awkward to do it right before.

Why did the space gyaru giantess with big, fat tits have to be the one that hated streaming? We're missing out on potential fan art because she doesn't exist anymore

>>19488581
Pomu deserves Holo money but I think Nijisanji is a better place for her to make content.

Sanalites on my TL are so starving for content that one of them is drawing fanart for her RM's characters and buying her artbooks..

>>19485503
Ayame is the model employee. Popular, drama free, records hologra, shills tons of merch and streams the minimum so her manager doesn't get tired checking the archives

What is it with this girl?

Just when she's getting popular, breaking her shell, showing herself up in collabs and making people love her

I honestly saw her getting good, and was actually interested in subscribing to give her a chance.

then
she shoots herself in the foot and doesnt show up to anything. does she wanna stay unpopular? is she hellbent on being the Flare of HoloEN?

>>19488581
>that was pomu's spot
Delusional

Sana...
start streaming...
Sana...
please...
Sana...
i beg of you...

>>19488674
>Pomu deserves Holo money but I think Nijisanji is a better place for her to make content.
I think in her current situation, Pomu would care more about making money.

>>19487812
By getting a redesign and changing her skin to white

>>19487812
More frequent, shorter streams and more collabs. She needs to drop her retarded "come back and stream 11 hours of one game to make up for being gone after a week or more" mentality because unlike Korone, she does not have a large fanbase to return to and isn't known for anything other than Pokemon, which other girls successfully pull in more views for.

>>19488823
Pomu literally makes enough money to pay off any medical bills and live on her own, even after quitting her job, she just doesn't because she's a retarded OL wagecuck.

>>19488692
She still sells artbooks?

>>19488793
Honestly, I think when she went on break for the dead dog, she realized she didn’t want to be a streamer. The Valentine’s Day stream was something she probably felt like she was obligated to do because of the amount of Valentine’s Day cards she got. Her whole personality is still stuck at debut week (BEEEG, bread, space baby, headpats).

>>19488080
Cover is probably waiting for holofes 3 to end before announcing her graduation, and right before April 1st, when the JP fiscal year starts

>>19488667
Even beyond her ABSOLUTE SEX model, the idea of a loud and cute aussie shitposter streamer sounds fucking kino.
What a shame.

>>19488906
Was the dog's dick that good? Jesus, why did that thing's death fuck her up so bad?

>>19488906
it means shell probably take a year to get good. if she can even last a year without quitting

None of youd ramaqueens actually give a shit about Sana.
I do want her to stream more but you just want to gossip about whatever target you perceived as the weak one, something I am very familar with as Kiara fan back on /jp/ days.
Cunts

This is all Management's fault, she would be happy if they would let her do science and space history streams.

Sana doesnt deserve her fans

>>19488981
Ah, here comes the butthurt membercuck.

>>19488927
Then she can do the whole "I got my dream to participate in a holofes but now I'm needed elsewhere" statement and EN can pretend to be sad for a day or two and then business continues as usual.

>>19488981
correct

>>19488996
Are they really banned from doing Science streams?

What the fuck is she even doing

>>19488823
She has tons of gachikoi, she'll be fine.
Only Rosemi I could see would have blended in well if she were to have been in Council, none of the other girls would be able to say or do half of what they were doing.

>>19488981
>you just want to gossip about whatever target you perceived as the weak one
Man, even if she had higher numbers she'd still have jack shit under her belt.

>>19488906
This might be true.
I believe this rrat

If there was a reason she would have said something.

>>19488891
Yes, I don't know if she released any books this year or the past couple months though. You can probably find one of her artbooks on ebay or something for a pretty penny

>>19488981
You're right, I don't give a shit about a Holo that doesn't put in the bare minimum effort, you fucking idiot.

>>19488981
Struth.
Dramacunts need to be gassed.

>>19488981
>None of youd ramaqueens actually give a shit about Sana.
Of course we don't, she doesn't deserve to be in hololive

>>19488981
>>19489037
Sucks not having new art to post or a stagnant general to repost in, huh?

>>19489040
American audience please undastand

>>19488981
I was a day one member but actions speak louder than words. She promised during the Valentine’s Day stream that she would keep her fans updated on Twitter and it’s pretty much dead other than the Pokémon direct and the occasional comment on her genmates tweets. Combine this with her very active twitter on her personal account, it just looks bad.
>>19489040
Yes, Sana said management said it was too controversial.

>>19489040
She mentioned she kept trying to make astronomy streams but management cockblocks anything that even touches real life, the paranoia keeping mumei from doing history streams is just the tip of the iceberg.

>>19488793
Come on anon, don't compare her to Flare.
Flare had work her ass off for a long time with a weird and ugly live2d model to get to where she is now, and she's still working hard even though so many people are making fun of her.

>>19488981
I did. I was a day 1 member and tuned in to every stream, woke up early for the holoscopes, and even turned in to the valentines day stream. It's apparent she doesn't care, now.
Quit sipping the koolaid.

>>19489119
>americans
Wait what?

>>19488981
Hard to give a shit about someone who doesn't give a shit about her job.

>>19483235
>Vsinger role has a lot of restrictions and limitations
>IRyS mentioned recently that she will slowly get more freedom
Could it be?

>>19478756
If she dropped the bird voice and just used her hot as fuck normal gf voice, holy fuck she'd be S-tier.

>>19489136
Science and history involve politics. Makes sense.
No science was ever done without politics and history is literally politics of the past.

The shelter is running out of dogs for Sana to adopt and kill

>>19473347
pity subs and pity memberships

>>19488981
It's funny because even if we're gossiping, it isn't for the purpose of shitting on her or making her look bad; she doesn't have a big enough presence within Hololive to get that. We're just looking at her situation and wondering if she's already gone.

>>19489237
Don't wanna anger the flat-earthers, no sir.

>>19489237
You can talk about how stars and galaxies work without getting into the politics behind space research, fucking high school teachers do it all the time.

>>19484672
watching her with the other girls is so painful, it was kind of bearablely awkward at first but 6 months on its clear they dont even speak to her anymore apart from Fauna and only because she is a unityfag

>>19489237
You have to really go out of your way to involve politics in science, though.
There's not that much politics in "X works like this, because Y does that".

>>19488981
Dont you have a split where to confess your undying love for your missing mistress?

>>19489273
Or Communists with race affects IQ, as explained in the book 'The Bell Curve'.

>>19488981
I liked her during her debut but you have to admit, she should've stayed being an indie streamer just treating it as a fun hobby.
Kiara when she was the underdog of HoloEN and as a qt overexcited autist german at least went to press her nose against the grinder pretty hard. She beat up herself pretty hard and barely knew shit about computers, but it was great to see her slowly climb out of that mental pit. Even to this day even if you don't like her you at least gotta commend her work ethic and for actually fucking streaming/putting out content.
I don't hate Sana but she probably shouldn't have been in HoloEN, it just felt like it was more of a side gig to her.

>>19488981
>>19489343
Apparently you dont, Im sorry anon, that was uncalled for

>>19482302
Hololive is banned from streaming Chinese games.

>>19489136
>Mumei history streams
>she presents shitpost level slideshows of important events
>brings Haachama on as a guest to discuss Japanese war crimes
Cover PLEASE

You can't even say, "She's busy." It's obvious Ina's roommate has her hands in way more pots and she streams more than once a month. Girl just took a break and decided the whole vtuber thing wasn't for her. Which is cool. Just end the charade already.

>>19488953
You already have Haachama for that

>>19488472
graduation near the end of 2022

>>19489467
>It's obvious Ina's roommate has her hands in way more pots
Sana's room mate is much more successful then Ina dude.

>>19482928
This guy is an enigma.

>>19489237
magnificent bait

you niggas really be sitting on this board all day malding about someone you never even watched huh?

>>19489514
With what? Show me.

>>19489317
>There's not that much politics in "X works like this, because Y does that".
But who found it?
Many modern science achievements were done by Nazis.

Besides, now that you say it, that sounds boring as fuck.

>>19488981
>I do want her to stream more
No you don't. All you care about is circlejerking with Sanallites over art.

Can you guys post some of her roomate's artwork please.

>>19489555
of course, what a waste of model

imagine we had someone who could actually use it.

>>19489150
American viewers (twitter/reddit) would probably blow a fuse if she mentioned something that's "insensitive" despite being true. Even calling flat earthers idiots would probably cause saviourfags who don't even believe in that shit to get offended on their behalf.

>>19489555
>you niggas really be sitting on this board all day malding about someone you never even watched huh?
If you actually read the thread, no one is really mad at her; we're just guessing if she's already gone or not.

>>19489447
>Japanese war crimes
After the war, 148 Koreans were convicted of Class B and C Japanese war crimes, 23 of whom were sentenced to death (compared to 920 Japanese who were sentenced to death), including Korean prison guards who were particularly notorious for their brutality during the war. The figure is relatively high considering that ethnic Koreans made up a small percentage of the Japanese military. Judge Bert Röling, who represented the Netherlands at the International Military Tribunal for the Far East, noted that "many of the commanders and guards in POW camps were Koreans – the Japanese apparently did not trust them as soldiers – and it is said that they were sometimes far more cruel than the Japanese."[86] In his memoirs, Colonel Eugene C. Jacobs wrote that during the Bataan Death March, "the Korean guards were the most abusive. The Japs didn't trust them in battle, so used them as service troops; the Koreans were anxious to get blood on their bayonets; and then they thought they were veterans."[87][88]

Korean guards were sent to the remote jungles of Burma, where Lt. Col. William A. (Bill) Henderson wrote from his own experience that some of the guards overseeing the construction of the Burma Railway "were moronic and at times almost bestial in their treatment of prisoners. This applied particularly to Korean private soldiers, conscripted only for guard and sentry duties in many parts of the Japanese empire. Regrettably, they were appointed as guards for the prisoners throughout the camps of Burma and Siam."[89] The highest-ranking Korean to be prosecuted after the war was Lieutenant General Hong Sa-ik, who was in command of all the Japanese prisoner-of-war camps in the Philippines.

>>19489295
my parents teach astronomy and they encounter this issue a lot. The biggest problem is young Earthers, but luckily they're usually too dumb to understand the concept of lightyears. If creation is 6000 years old then we shouldn't be able yo see farther than 6000 light years but we can. So technically talking about any celestial body that far away could be controversial.

>>19489514
Doesn't Ina's roommate do art for multiple gacha?

Bros, I feel so bad for Pako... He seemed so excited to be a papa...

>>19489555
I just don't want her to graduate because I think aussie voices are pure sex, I like her in general and also I'm obsessed with her massive chocolate babongers
I simply want her to become active

>>19489598
Quite the contrary, twitter/reddit audience would lap it up that kind of stuff. It's just not worth it for holo.

>>19489705
Yes. Sana's has done like, one Arknights character and a single FGO CE like 4 years ago? Someone said she sold artbooks or something though.

>>19489634
AHAHAHAHA BRBRRRRRBBBLBLBLBLBBBRRRRR CRIMECHAMACHAMAAAAA

>the pitiful amount of porn for a brown giantess with big tits
HOW DO YOU FUCK SOMETHING UP SO HARD
Imagine if Haachama or Noel had this little

>>19489017
Never subbed to anyone, dramaqueef.

>>19489833
So then
>>19489555

>>19489562
>just link me soft dox dude
Naw do the leg work yourself, Sana's room mate has done more pieces for FGO then Ina, More Ark knights characters, was lead character designer for a game, Worked in some capacity with the pokemon company (this one was always vague).
Ina did SOME pieces for gacha games.

Why does nobody sperg out this hard when gura takes random unannounced breaks?

>>19489815
You dont know what your talking about, Sana has done 3 ark knights characters, multiple EP for ark kights, 4 CEs for FGO, Was lead character designer on a video game, Ina has done way way less shit.

>>19489924
because Gura is established

Does any of the EN girl even mentions her?

>>19489924
>An established streamer even before joining Hololive vs a girl that was most likely nepotism'd into her role that doesn't do shit and brings the cohesiveness of council as a group down with her

hmmm I wonder why

>>19489878
>>19489947
Ina's done the character design for a game too, as well as the art for LNs and all the gacha stuff. Sana might've done more but it's nowhere near as one sided as you seem to think

>>19489878
Lmao Sana has literally done a TWO(2) CEs and a command code for FGO. Man that really trumps Ina's 1 CE. They're equal in Arknights illustrations with 2 each. Rrats about pokemon should stay that way.

>>19489924
Gura has fans and will inevitably return.
Sana is a loose cannon with graduation rrats.

>>19489562
Go back you dirty beggar

>>19489295
NTA, but with science, you will always get some smartass complaining with >"akshually, that's not entirely true"
And history is different depending on which country is narrating the events and there will always be offended people from the country that lost a certain war in the past

>>19474100
because gura knows how to entertain her audience, kys for even bringing up gura

>>19490073
>Lmao Sana has literally done a TWO(2) CEs and a command code for FGO. Man that really trumps Ina's 1 CE.
It literally does?

>>19489924
>Why isn't anyone talking about one of the holos with a massive fanbase who regularly collabs with ger own gen and council
That was fucking retarded, Anon. The only way it could have been dumber is if you brought up a JP.

>>19489825
>POW war crimes almost completely done by Koreans
>all that is left is the evil scientists, which every country had, and America pardoned if they handed over their research
>'class A' war crime is literally propoganda and is 'crime against peace' (LMAO)

>ergo, Japanese soldiers were tortured because of the actions of Korean prison guards
Korea must pay Japan reperations.

'But the Japanese wasn't dead. He had been wounded severely in the back and couldn't move his arms; otherwise he would have resisted to his last breath. The Japanese's mouth glowed with huge gold-crowned teeth, and his captor wanted them. He put the point of his kabar on the base of a tooth and hit the handle with the palm of his hand. Because the Japanese was kicking his feet and thrashing about, the knife point glanced off the tooth and sank deeply into the victim's mouth. The Marine cursed him and with a slash cut his cheeks open to each ear. He put his foot on the sufferer's lower jaw and tried again. Blood poured out of the soldier's mouth. He made a gurgling noise and thrashed wildly. I shouted, "Put the man out of his misery." All I got for an answer was a cussing out. Another Marine ran up, put a bullet in the enemy soldier's brain, and ended his agony. The scavenger grumbled and continued extracting his prizes undisturbed'.
- Eugene B. Sledge, 'With the Old Breed: At Peleliu and Okinawa'

>>19489705
She's also the artist on an ongoing LN.
And have done art for a couple other books. Even did a drawing for one of Yom's tights books.

>>19489924
>Why does nobody sperg out this hard when gura takes random unannounced breaks?
Gura has way more goodwill than Sana. Sana burnt her goodwill out with the dog break and after she started streaming less and less, people just stopped giving a shit about her.

>>19489878
Ina worked on a manga, a light novel, and did the art for an indie game too.

>>19489878
1M>252k tho

Tako fags in full damage control that their boring korean dog whore is less successful in art then Sana

>Sanallites don't know what their oshi has worked on before
>they don't know what she's doing at the moment either
This entire situation is just depressing.

>>19489237
America was a mistake

>>19490252
>haha this girl makes more time for Hololive and keeps her fanbase up to date
Not the burn you thought it'd be.

>>19490130

>>19489924
Some anons here do shitpost about it though. But Gura put in a ton of the legwork in and seems to have written off her old presence entirely.
It's not like the sentiment to Sana is really 100% filled with blood-fueled rage, its more of indifference or disappointment. Irys can genuinely take her spot as the 5th council member and I don't think anyone would bat an eye.

>>19490273
She sure as shit ain't my oshi and you fags snuggling so far into her ass that you think whatever perceived difference in actual work her and Ina do actually absolves her of being a lazy bitch is hilarious.

>>19490389
So much indifference you ritual post about it every day!

>>19490434
Seething tako

>>19481023
>He does it for free

>>19490454
I'm more interested than Sana is right now evidently

>>19483459
>no
>all the comments saying "shes busy" despite her roommate tweeting about playing genshin all day
retard

>>19490434
Assblasted Sanallite. Enjoying that membership?

>>19490515
>Hes a thread reader for a fucking twitter account

I want to glaze her caramel cans with a load equal to the amount of time she hasn't streamed

>>19490543
>he says as he waits for his own oshi's posts

>Sanalites shitting on the one Holo that not only would collab with their oshi at the drop of a hat but also the one who got her the job

>>19490434
I wish I could snuggle into her ass.

>>19490252
>koran dog whore that streams /comfy/ kino vs a Chinese bugman that never streams and cries over the dogs her parents keep cooking
Sanalites...it's getting embarrassing...

>>19490580
Since she posts about Genshin so often it should be easy to find the 20 to 100 posts shes made about it. Oh fug she made a single post about it 2 days ago! You cant even check your own shitposts!

>>19490336
Indeed.

'Only in the U.S.A. is it possible for criminals to become world famous gangsters, the guests of mayors and police chiefs, who give interviews for journalists from newspapers with circulations in the millions in which they give their opinions on the questions of the day'.
- 'Aus Gottes eigenem Land'

>>19489555
Of course. Huge waste of a spot where someone can really shine under the Hololive brand. Hiring Sana was a mistake.

>>19490538
Man y'all are confusing. I've never really liked her and thought her design was shit. If anything thanks to you all I'm actually beginning to hate the cunt for contracting into something and reneging on it.

>>19485255
that was the most fun part of the stream lmao I can't believe people are this autistic about ''nonono muh lore you must follow the rules don't kill my npcfriendo''

>>19490632
>he checked
lol

>>19485239
Anime/otaku industry type artists for some reason tend to be extremely fucking pretentious and Sana seems to have that kind of ego about her. Ina is just much better at hiding it.

Really though it need not be said they're not actual artists in the true sense of the word, only technically competent and very dialed-in trained to make a certain style but they manufacture things by contract and not by passion.

>>19490638
Dumb quote this nigga never been to Italy, Russia or France I guess.

>>19490697
Oh no someone did research rather then just pointlessly regurgitating rrats how CRINGE.

>>19490699
>Complaining about Pretentions
>Really though it need not be said they're not actual artists in the true sense of the word, only technically competent and very dialed-in trained to make a certain style but they manufacture things by contract and not by passion.

>>19487472
>>19490681
i was just more annoyed that she didn't walk away after dying 10 times without getting anywhere. she did kill him though so she proved me wrong.

>>19490699
Ironychama...

>>19490704
>Dumb quote this nigga never been to Italy, Russia or France I guess.
He went to all of them, the last two against their will :^)

>>19490783
I'm saying they're needlessly pretentious because they act like they're hot shit while not actually accomplishing anything that will be considered noteworthy possibly their entire lives. Ina knows this and has said her stuff won't be in museums some day, but Sana seems to take her art real real seriously despite it being what it is (gacha bullshit that will be forgotten in a few years) and that's cringey.

VERY busy, please andastd.

>>19490126
I'm talking about the past breaks she took, not her current situation you mongoloid. If your dad hadn't used you as a club to beat your mother when you were a baby you'd have some reading comprehension.

>>19490977
>I'm talking about the past breaks she took
There were plenty of threads, you stupid newfag. You know, in the PAST.

>>19490867
Iirc Sana is also a mama for a vtuber (who flopped)

>>19491104
the irony is, the only reason that vtuber flopped was because they just didn't stream.
Like mother like daughter.

>>19490947
>Just think of all those zatsustreams she could have done

>>19476281
Lmao, the hacker known as 4chan strikes again

>>19490155
Who's her roomate? I only know her old 2view.

>>19491508
what is with you newfags and not understanding that people can't just doxx roommates on here without being banned?

>>19476281
>ugly model
I dunno what it is. Was it just Pako fucking it up? He has good illustrations. Is it shitty rigging?
>boring
subjective, admittedly
>bad humor
subjective, admittedly
>lazy
this is killing her the most, and proving us right by just not streaming really isn't helping

She should have known better, you don't wanna come here unless you're looking to get some chuckles from some rrats. If you come looking for feedback of validation, well...

>>19488883
wait Pomu still wagecucks? Why?

>>19491662
>ban scare
It's not even summer yet and I'm being called newfag by a newfag

>>19491743
https://twitter.com/pakosun/status/1430117719479767040
https://twitter.com/tou_ilie/status/1429504348694872070

>>19491847
' Main deficiency of active people. Active men are usually lacking in higher activity--I mean individual activity. They are active as officials, businessmen, scholars, that is, as generic beings, but not as quite particular, single and unique men. In this respect they are lazy.
It is the misfortune of active men that their activity is almost always a bit irrational. For example, one must not inquire of the money-gathering banker what the purpose for his restless activity is: it is irrational. Active people roll like a stone, conforming to the stupidity of mechanics.
Today as always, men fall into two groups: slaves and free men. Whoever does not have two-thirds of his day for himself, is a slave, whatever he may be: a statesman, a businessman, an official, or a scholar'.
- 'Menschliches, Allzumenschliches: Ein Buch für freie Geister'

>>19491847
she's probably not making as much money as anon claims she is.

>>19488981
>None of youd ramaqueens actually give a shit about Sana.
you're not allowed to point that out anon

>>19491743
>I dunno what it is. Was it just Pako fucking it up?
She chose the shitty brown skin color, so she probably chose the hairstyle and hair color, as well as the clothes matching the hair color
Pako also sucks at drawing women, his strength is drawing men

>>19491893
Man I dunno. Something about the head/face just doesn't look right to me. Is it the hair? The eye color?

>>19490434
>absolves
you're not a judge anon even if you're seething for free

>>19491893
>that wasted arm animation

>>19491991
I mean look at fucking Sans. 10/10 shota design that the Hololive community instantly fell in love with.

>>19492027
nah but i am judging for free

>>19490252
Correct but they won't admit
>>19490351
>keeps her fanbase up to date
With what exactly? She's just uninteresting and does fuck all for streams
>>19490609
>/comfy/ kino
>Ina streams
KEK

>>19491893
It's always so weird to see the riggers testing their work and then actually watching the streams it doesn't even look like their character is in frame for the software to animate the talents properly

>>19485239
>NijiEN
They are all shit tho

>>19491847
>>19491957
She quit her job a few months ago but was considering getting a part time work from home job. She's likely just paranoid about what would happen if the streaming thing suddenly fell through. I'm only a casual Pomu watcher so she may have said more that I don't know about. In regards to money, she's doing more than fine.

https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCP4nMSTdwU1KqYWu3UH5DHQ/superchat

>>19492124
exactly. you're no better than a meido from here

>>19492166
She gets around 70k of that playboard figure (and around 50% of her stream labs). Then taxes will take however many depending on her yearly income. I recall Kiara said that after her cuts, her government took another 50% of her earnings.

>>19492127
Ina nearly has as many views on a 1 day old gaming stream as Sana has on her new outfit reveal 6 weeks ago.

>>19492150
That's probably just to do with how they end up having their camera placed. Some do occasionally use the extra tricks their models can perform.

>>19491991
>Pako also sucks at drawing women, his strength is drawing men
Sad, but true.

>>19492313
she's still a trash streamer that can barely talk or make interesting commentary when playing and just make retarded noises

>>19492252
Austria's income tax is drastically higher than in the US for one thing, and Kiara makes enough to go into a upper tax bracket. I'm not saying Pomu is drowning in cash but she certainly doesn't need a side gig to live comfortably.

>>19492377
>she's still a trash streamer
At least she streams for the Takos, dude.

>>19492377
That's irrelevant to me. What's relevant here, in this thread, is that Sana is even worse.

>>19492007
It's a mix of everything
>Bad skin color
>Derpy eyes
>Bad eye color
>Bad hairstyle
>Bad hair color
>Bad clothing
>Bad clothing color

If the dark skin is non-negotiable, give her a lighter and warmer shade of brown
Red, green or blue eyes
White, blonde or darker hair color to accentuate the contrast between her hair and her skin
Long hair without dumb twintails
Liliana (Taimanin) is how you do a delicious brown

>>19492469
instant deflection

>>19492537
>deflection
>for calling both shit
anon

>>19492429
Yeah, 208k in SC's alone for less than a year is great, even assuming she sees only 25% of that would still be over 50k. That's not including whatever her contract pays plus memberships.

>>19492377
>Sanalite would rather spend time shitting on Ina than actually talking about Sana
Ohnononono

>>19492377
The point isnt which is better at what its that Sana is a lazy whore and she's the best at being a lazy whore. Ina is still boring but it doesnt change anything about Sana.

>>19480827
She probably got the job and realized that she didnt have what it takes to keep doing it, not a surprise and not a jab at her, happens in all jobs/companies.

>>19492652
Well, there's nothing to talk about Sana

>>19492652
Right? He should be talking about her upcoming str-
Oh, wait.

>>19492794
This. Or she just straight up hates doing it. What's bothering me is that she leaves her fans hanging instead of just cutting the umbilical cord.

>>19492313
>>19492439
>Didn't even deny that ina's trash
KEK