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>>19449481
/pyon/ has jack and shit for export, I'd imagine, other than being a target for brain drain...sex workers?

>>19450396
The thailand of the world

>>19450291
Also linking >>19442639 for potential renaming suggestions of chuubanite

>>19450380
Ah, please remove the /yeah/ lore scrap, that's outdated

Trashing using chuubanite for gravity machines idea. In order to change earth's gravity you need to have a mass equal to earth's gravity nearby. Obviously a mass that big cannot exist in the station let alone exist near earth without apocalyptic results. If /nasa/ wants zero-g rugby again then they have to enter orbit. Chuubanite cannot affect gravity as gravity can only be affected by mass.

>page 9
Living in CDT is suffering. All the interesting conversations happen when I'm away.

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>>19456330
yeah its odd, I'm used to being asleep for everything, but it seems for once most of the thread is awake when I am.

I might write a bit more /KFP/ lore when I'm finished with my current work.

>>19450945
the Philippines*, Thailand at least has Muay Thai

>>19456896
/nasa/ might be friends with the takodachis if Ina and Sana are friends. But to confirm I have to wait for /wah/ to assess the business relationship. /nasa/ just wants to sell space bread, pastries, and wheat beers.

While traffic of the thread is low at this time of the day, all are encouraged to give https://rentry.org/buk5e a look. It's a rather detailed writing on chuubanite (name pending?), so details in that post, like what chuubanite can do and how it transmutes. I also like how chuubanite reacts in response to things the related chuuba do personally.

>>19457980
One thing to note about Chuubanite is that it loves to bond. The pure stuff is unstable makes sense because Chuubanite is always looking for matter to bond with. The ores are less powerful but are stable because chuubanite is fused. Once Chuubanite fuses with matter it is very difficult to seperate from it. Also Chuubanite in plants and fungi is very common. So plants and animals of this world sometimes have fantastic features and evolutions. Like /rose/'s pig people with roses growing in them or deadbeats being walking talking skeletons.

Also to answer an anon wanting to combine shrooms and Chuubanite: its a bad idea. Now having psychadellic shrooms grow from Chuubanite enriched soil bonding with the shroom naturally is a different story.

>>19459028
the high is worth it Any thoughts on how chuubanite can be refined? As /meat/ head, I think I have an idea how it can be done, but I want to make sure if it makes sense to others as well. Also, do you think it makes sense to say there is a minute amount of chuubanite in human body simply from all the stuff we eat? What would likely happen if the human body is infused with (more) chuubanite?

>>19459272
One idea is to burn away the impurities or melt the impure elements out. You still lose some Chuubanite, but you can extract a purer form. I thought about refining Chuubanite into some form of oil or liquid where either it acts like gasoline or a car battery. You can program circuits with it, which could explain /rbc/'s robot prosthetics. /nasa/ thought about cutting out the impurities with lasers, but that didn't go well.

>>19459028
We mix it with hagfish slime as, essentially a dual coolant/dispersion for smoke in the vents of our weapons. An alchemist guild within the capital discovered that hagfish slime and Chuubanite bond--the resulting substance, Maronitrium, acts almost like a gas-trapping instead of liquid-trapping lattice that lasts longer than the slime does on its own--smoke, steam, and whatever passes through and emerges as a runny liquid. When we were having issues with making our revolvers and puckle guns NOT slam piping hot smoke into the faces of their operators, some genius decided to apply it to the issue, and make vents as part the weapon sealed with the compound.

That means in order to actually make widespread production of Maronitrium actually feasible, we had to farm the hagfish making the slime. This took a while. Decades. First, we had to identify what the damn things ate--they discovered a primary food source to be what IRL are called polychaete worms. That took a while, not only identifying prey items in stomachs, but getting sufficient catch, finding live worms, and breeding suitable species as a food source for the hagfish. Then, we had to figure out how the animals reproduced...and how to keep them locked up tight enough TO fuck in the cages the first place. This is not your mother's Kona Kampachi, this is super niche aquaculture that can only exist in a fantasy world. Once that was settled, we started selling excess catch to the people of the Despotate of /nijikr/ (or whatever the name of their autonomous/federated unit is) since, well, irl gooks stir fry them.

It did not escape our notice that the jostling and general experience of being transported overland, live, in barrels (not particularly difficult) manufactures A LOT more slime over time than just having slaves swirl their forearms in a vat for 3 hours a day, and it makes sure an ample supply is fresh for maronitrium manufacture--this allowed us to consciously move a portion of our defense industry inland into more rural areas. Also, scientists located at non-coastal academies/universities now have lots and lots of worms and primitive fish to cut up on their dissection tables, so we have pretty good biological sciences too.

>>19461417
Which nation is this?

>>19462187
/clg/, the nation name means "Nobody is Live" in Nahua

>>19462226
Why is everyone dead?

>>19462260
It's a meme in our thread:
>Cyber"live"
>Nobody is streaming live

Must be nice to have a working scociety. /nasa/ is barely making it by. The joke is that Sana doesn't exist because she never streams.

>still no /meat/ thread
i guess i'll miss out on it when it begins again, assuming all the other /meat/heads aren't banned for a month or so.

>>19464630
This practically is the /meat/ thread now

>>19465887
Well don't say that where the js can see it

>>19464630
>>19465887
So what happens when you throw together two bodies that can regenerate? Do they sometimes fuse together as one body?

>>19466208
depends. fleshgrafting can allow people to reattach limbs. Mai-chan's abilities would do that too, but it being a perfect healing, it always creates the same body in the end while Mai-chan's blessing is imperfect. this might mean that we can make, as some anons have described in the past, eldrich flesh abominations by fusing multiple body parts together. this would be a massive waste of body parts, and would require certain neural wiring to get everything to work properly, but unless the thread is opposed to it, it might be possible specifically because of the imperfect healing of Mai-chan's blessing. it depends on how others view it.

>world is early-mid Industrial Revolution
>Sanallites are playing Rimworld
kino

>>19466502
Actually, RimWorld ideology (with mods) would probably be great for explaining the religions of some countries

/nasa/'s second biggest fear is disease. That's why we go out with space suits and helmets despite having breathable air. Though the suits are comfy.

>>19466488
I was thinking about fusing two girls into one body with two heads as a punishment where'd they have to learn to live together with half a body. Just a thought.

>>19466208
The way I see it is, in the natural environment i.e. without the use of fleshgrafting or other chuubanite-powered qualities, the two bodies probably will regenerate on their own (assuming proper nutritions) without merging with each other.
If they're forcefully merged together (either by fleshgrafting or just stitching them together), I assume only one of the personalities will survive as the "mind" of the merged being, although it might be able to gain some degree of access in terms of memories (or mental episodes, as it happens) from the subsumed person.

>>19466979
lovetown <3

I've taken the liberty of writing about what /meat/ do with chuubanite as a test to see if I understand it correctly. Please tell me if there's anything that is at odds with the lore for chuubanite and/or /meat/: https://rentry.org/dbohc
Be noted that I haven't filled in potential effects of chuubanite meat. Suggestions are welcomed!

We briefly touched on it a few threads ago without a consensus, but what IS /hlgg/ in this world? Despite the vocal anti-split sentiment that exists there, it's well documented that there's a plurality of posters there that also crosspost in their oshi's respective splits. I know certain splits are more pro-Global than others, but it's important to consider that even if Global isn't necessarily present in a split, splits are definitely present in Global.
Personally, I think this lends credence to the idea that it exists as the center of a sort of EU-esque existence on the Holo-continent, where the participating split threads send delegates to do whatever administrative things at the seat of government.

>>19467391
The Vienna to the HRE, or something like that

>>19467577
Or, perhaps, even a holy city held in esteem by many nearby nations, technically under the rule of an independent principality/katepanate/exarchate, such as the Vatican holding that enclave within Rome.

>>19467874
Global isn't held in high esteem by anyone; it's just where all the business gets done.

>>19467937
so it's basically a shady brothel in Rotterdam, got it.

>>19466944
>fusing two girls into one body with two heads as a punishment
you could get quite a bit more creative. i'll have to think about whether or not /meat/ would have any reason to use that kind of concept. besides maybe adding a few more arms, it wouldn't benefit them much for their military to have.

>>19467378
good so far, but the act of fracturing and breaking bones is meant to make the bones more dense. see muay thai advocating kicking concrete and steel blocks specifically to fracture the bones while on a dairy-centric diet. it's the same process that leads to muscle growth. also, chuubanite bonds to things on the atomic level, mixing it with stuff to make cookies would make it less potent, but the bonding of atoms is where the power is derrived (assuming it is supposed to have comparrisons to nuclear physics) i always figured that the unique /meat/centric effect of chuubanite would be to promote rapid regeneration and growth, hence the rapid cancerous growth and imperfect recovery as potential nerfs. i figured we would just get as pure a concoction as we could and inject it into the blood stream like a drug, though that is assuming it could be turned into a liquid and yes, we would absolutely inject molten chuubanite directly into the bloodstream of our own soldiers, not to mention any sacrifice. i figure the activator substance would likely just be blood, or some substance found largely within blood. good job so far though.

Going back to chuubanite (sorry kek) but what if there are different ways to refine it, and different methods lead to different uses? For example /nasa/'s method of refinement creates essentially an equivalent of Element-151 for use as extremely efficient and waste free space age fuel, while /meat/'s refinement process is far more ritualistic and creates a drug that can be used to regenerate wounds?

>>19468071
It is both, in the case of fleshwrights' craft. The reason why IRL bone fracture healing usually makes use of fixtures is to keep the bones aligned well, so that they heal back to their original shape. In this case, though, the bones are deliberately "misaligned" so that they will heal in the desired shape instead. It is something done IRL as well, although it is usually used as an extreme way to lengthen (or shorten, I imagine) legs.

>>19468362
then i like it. sounds great to me!

>>19468145
Perhaps with Sana's blessing we could use chuubanite to affect gravity. However laws of physics say the only way to affect earth's gravity is by having more mass than earth. So we're stuck with chuubanite-infused rocket fuel.

>>19468071
Forgot to mention another point in the post.
>cookie
The reason I wrote that chuubanite ore is made into mud cookies (or other similar "food") is not to refine chuubanite or make it more potent, but to make it into a form that can be absorbed by the eater (usually future sacrifices). I assume a similar process can also be done by eating the sacrifice and their chuubanite-enriched flesh, although obviously it's generally done by /meat/ heads.
>atomic bonds
It's not in the rentry entry in OP, hence I leave that part out. I think the proposal implies that the reaction between chuubanite and other substances is explicitly magical, so the bonding might well be as well.
>/meat/ unique effect
I like that idea, given how many of /meat/ chuuba have some kind of superhuman regeneration skills (out of necessity, arguably). Perhaps that is what makes fleshgrafting practical? Maybe that will also make both /meat/heads and sacrifices able to sustain more injuries (for totally different use).

This is just a final thought. I wonder if it'd be possible to create artificial "stars" with chuubanite. Stars are made with hot fusion of hydrogen and lots of pressure. Would be interesting if we can create tiny stars as a long lasting fuel source. Useless for propulsion, but great for solar-based tech. Though we'll have to create a chamber to contain the small star. But I'm getting ahead of myself. /nasa/ needs wheat, metal, and fuel first. Hoping we get news on prospecting a quarry.

/meat/heads I have a proposal
Our regeneration properties are dependent on the skill of the magic wielder
Low level mages can poorly regrow limbs with defects while centuries old veteran warlocks can instantly sprout half of their bodies without any flaws

>>19467391
Shouldn't /hlgg/ be the remnants of an old empire? Calling the other threads splits implies they used to be part of a whole

>>19468664
it was strongly implied the basis for chuubanite was atomic energy. my fan theory is that the only magical effect it has is it's ability to bridge the gap between the mortal and heavenly realms, the heavenly realm being dominated by the power of worship and faith. chuubanite itself is the blood of the gods, so when more gods are made, it has a toll on the amount of chuubanite somewhere withing the however many realms our universe has, more obviously when /asp/, or /become/, or /meat/'s ritual transsubstantiation, all of which, i propose, are the same process applied in different ways, ask me more about this if you want try to enter the heavenly realm through the use of a bunch of chuubanite, combined with a bunch of worship and faith. this symbolizes how someone can enter the heavenly realm, but requires worship and faith via viewers and fans to be properly considered a vtuber. otherwise, chuubanite is basically just a highly radioactive substance that fuses with anything it comes into contact. all the magic is in the heavenly realm, so we don't need to explain it beyond chuubanite. on a side note, chuubanite being the blood of the gods means returning them to the life cycle creates more chuubanite. otherwise i like everything you've done so far

>>19469477
the rentry clearly stated anyone can get the same function out of chuubanite if they know how to. low level mages will lead to more imperfections in whoever they heal, including themselves, high level field-"warlocks" will have far fewer imperfections, and high level "warlocks" with the backing of the entire industry within /meat/ territory are better still, but not even the best can perfectly reconstruct anything, and due to improbabilities regarding how difficult it will be to fix brain-related injuries it is functionally albiet not theoretically impossible to recover from sufficient brain damage. it is never instant. even Mai-chan's abilities weren't instant, and they require exorborant amounts of callories to work.
>instantly sprout half of their bodies without any flaws
is absolutely out of the question, specifically due to "instantly" and "without any flaws", also "sprout" since that gives off a subtle implication of coming from nowhere. it requires physical material to regenerate physical material, chuubanite is merely a chatalyst. still you are correct that incompetence leads to inferrior results.

>>19470224
Ah, so it's a grounded magic
No isekai cheat magic

>>19469477
I think there're some issues with that proposal:
>chuubanite-based magic does not have a lot of skill-related effect change, unless by "skills" it means "precision in applying chuubanite in a working manner"
>Mai's blessing is required for regeneration of that level - fleshgrafting without Mai's blessing likely won't heal injuries that a normal human cannot heal by itself
>neither Mai's blessing nor fleshgrafting is meant to extend one's natural lifespan

>>19470224
I would hold off to the atomic energy basis until whoever writes the original entry decides so, or if the rest of the thread agrees to it.

This section of the doc implies that the huge apocalyptic storm in Rushia territory is related to her chuubanite simultaneously going through nuclear half-life. In combination with her personal grudge against everyone

>>19470320
Alchemy and prayer seems to be what causes chuubanite to fuse with things. For the alchemy side you have metallurgy and chemistry. There's also chuubanite enhancing biology with plants and animals. Which spiritually makes sense as plants and animals have souls too.

>>19470320
that's what we're trying to make it, yes. the guy who made the rentry didn't want to touch up on how the magic part of it worked, but he seemingly left room for my idea to still potentially be an explanation, and since my explanation seems to be rather poetic and fitting, i am, obviously, a rather big fanm of it. obviously if people dislike it that's fine, the part about chuuba blood makes /meat/ rather important to how much chuubanite there is in the world at any given time, but i really like the explanation.

>>19470373
as i said, i'm pretty sure that's literally what he meant by all of that. he even tried to address the possibility of critical mass knowing that would be too powerful by saying that it couldn't reach it in a large enough quantities to be a concern. i can't imagine reading any of that and not immidiately seeing the ties to nuclear physics, it's just too palpable.

>>19470584
according to the rentry, it just fuses with things. activator substances and glyphs are the two ways it can have unique effects, but what substances or glyphs do should have a basis in prayer worship and faith to connect the chuubanite to whichever god it is supposed to. so for instance, maybe the same substances or glyphs can have different effects depending on which chuuba is being prayed to. if my suggestion of chuubanite bridging the gap between the realms is taken, it might make for a good explanation as to how it works. what are your opinions or suggestions?

>>19470917
Runes are autistic symbols used to program the chuubanite to merge with materials in a specific way you want. Runes can be as big or small as you can engrave them. For /rbc/ they can have nanochips of this stuff that tells their prosthetics to act naturally like real limbs. For more practical use you can draw simple runes with a chalk on a slate slab to carve spikes into it.

>>19470917
>chuubanite seen as blood of the gods
Personally I lean more towards crystalised life force, which seems more in line with its healing-based properties. Maybe different sects of /meat/ see it differently?
>nuclear chuubanite
I'll wait until that anon confirms that.

>>19471339
>crystalised life force
of the gods. blood is a kind of life force, and it's not like this stuff is made out of any life source. it's literally called chuubanite, or whatever we decide to call it, it makes sense that it would be from the heavenly realm.

>>19471339
The portable star idea doesn't seem too far fetched. All life comes from stars in some way. As much energy needed to create systems of life come from sunlight.

Tfw a setting that turns vtubers into deities have become the most interesting project Ive seen and is probably the only saving grace of this board after all the drama threads
I love you autists

If chuubanite is powered by streams we could solve a lot of things I think. Meanwhile Nakiri-gumi have mastered an extreme refinement process of chuubanite to create nakirium, which is far more potent and can be used for far longer periods of time without needing a recharge from streams.

>>19471494
I don't think gods are meant to have different life force as mortals, considering that /asp/ seems to have some way to make mortals gods. Both kinds of being sharing the same life force also help to justify the sacrifice of non-god individuals in terms of /meat/ cosmology - it helps keep the cycle going, allowing more time to rectify the overpopulation before the imbalance causes the apocalypse.

>>19471665
/meat/'s cosmology seems more
>indies good, corpos bad, bubble apocalypse soon!

Another thought about chuubanite coming from heaven. /nasa/ found their first sample in an asteroid in space. Whether or not the asteroid is a piece of the planet is up in the air. What if in this realm chuubanite can also be formed in space via portals from holos? I do like the idea of chuubanite meteors from cosmic vTubers. Sana obviously but also Moona and the like.

This world's moon could also have chuubanite as well.

>>19471905
There are some cosmic chuubas other than Sana
Moonjelly, Kaneko Lumi, etc
Maybe in myths in can be justified by saying these deities can travel to space and sail the aether

>>19471782
In terms of ideologies, there would be a Independent VS Corporate axis
Some argue that deities that rely on pantheons are weak and do not deserve worship, the Indies are mostly monotheists who believe that a deity should be able to do whatever they want without the leash of a higher power

>>19471979
Space chuubas could mean chuubanite in the heavens. Meteors would have a unique energy that earth chuubanite does not.

>>19471782
Well, not exactly. You can see the lore archive in OP for more details, but the gist is that life cycles through steps of birth, suffering, death, and rebirth, but the explosion of "immortal" chuuba population throws the cycle off balance, which will eventually lead to the end of the world. As such, /meat/ takes it upon themselves to recycle life force, ideally with the immortal chuuba as they're the source of the problem, but non-chuuba still have their own life force, so by sacrificing them in the proper way, they can help keep feeding the cycle to starve off the apocalypse.
/meat/'s preference of indie compared with corpro is somewhat old lore (partly because no corpro will be openly into /meat/ stuff, I assume), but I think it can be justified as that the force behind corpro chuuba both drive the chuuba explosion, and keeping them alive far longer than they should (compared with 2view indie that just drops off after a while). Still, /meat/ is pretty egalitarian when it comes to sacrificing and eating the gods.

>>19472256
Tfw we'll have to let go one of ours...
It still feels too soon!

>>19472377
https://twitter.com/CommaV9413/status/1499200471692898304
Dentata said she might switch from ryona to pure horror. No ryona experiments but she will still be up. She'll be on break until April to clear her head

To think I proposed Chuubanite as this world's Ragnite (Valkyria Chronicles' universal fuel) and now its this coveted material made by god.

>>19472377
After some talks with both her mother and her /meat/ chuuba friends, she's thinking of rebranding herself as a different kind of chuuba (see >>19472489) (the poll currently points to horror, although Akira also suggests playing ryona games) instead of just quitting, so there's hope.
Still, if she (or other /meat/ chuuba for that matter) does quit, it only makes sense for her to be eaten just like the others as well. If anything, we might eat her faster than other chuuba gods since we already have an ample supply of willing sacrifices (in the form of her clergy) that we can channel her essence into.

>/meat/ is already discussing about recycling their own vtubers
You guys are scary

Any news on tectonics? Do we have a ring of fire at least?

>>19471665
i was saying that /asp/ turns mortals into gods via the ability for chuubanite to bridge the gap between the mortal and heavenly realms, and that that is the only magical effect it has, same as /become/ and same as /meat/. /asp/ infuses a mortal with the ingridients necessary to become a god, chuubanite, the life force/blood of gods, and worship/faith, the power source of gods. /become/ does exactly the same thing, but they make the mortal as similar to an already existing god as possible so that they can /become/ that god. /meat/ uses that process on weakened gods, either those who lack enough power through worship and faith, or who have been smited by other gods graduation enough to be brought closer to the mortal realm, such that the difference between them and a mortal is reduced. at that point, when /meat/ sacrifices go through the process of /becoming/ the god in question, the god is already so close to the mortal realm that that god can /become/ that mortal, so when we force that mortal to go through the life cycle, we are also directly forcing that god to go through the cycle as well. this causes the god to bleed chuubanite into the mortal realm, which also kills them. if they are too powerful, they can sometimes recover before we finish, but our actions bring them closer to it. this recycles chuubanite and brings more of it into the mortal realm, but if too much of it gets stuck in the heavenly realm, it will result in the apocalypse, due to overpopulation of chuubas in the heavenly realm, and the loss of a major element of ours. this is my proposal, not sure if i should link it to the anchor, so please tell me if anyone has any disagreements with any of this.

Inb4 /here/ chuubas actively join the worldbuilding discussion
Get /asp/ and Kiki in here!

>>19472759
kiki already spoke about it, she wants an island... i don't want to reenter that timeloop.

>>19472801
But we're out of isl-
Wait
The two islands in the middle of the ocean!
Theyre still unclaimed and were removed by accident!

>>19472690
Eh, I think we should wait for /asp/ and /become/ to pitch in about that before assuming how their schtick works. In fact, that's why I kept it vague on whether the sacrifice actually /become/ the goddess (or even arguably whether /meat/'s deiphagy actually works as advertised) in that story I wrote. We probably need the rest of the thread to agree to it if /meat/ really can eat the gods.
I don't really see how your proposal factors in sacrificing mortals desu, so I still prefer the crystalised life force idea. I guess we can chalk it up to in-universe sect difference?

>>19472759
I vaguely remember /pyon/ saying Kiki says she want an island during the island dispute (which went nowhere), but otherwise I don't think she's very active in this project.

Kiki Epstein island...

>>19471494
I see it as a physical manifestation of "suspension of disbelief". The way chuubas present themselves breaking reality, being things that don't exist, weird hair colors, wierd eye colors, wearing outfits that would fall off IRL, walking around in stripper fetish clothes, etc. The audience is, by and large, voluntarily accepting that sort of lore, and that's why it plays into why chuubanite can push certain fields' tech levels so far for some nations and not others.

Why are you calling the god Fulgur a cyborg, NijiEn, if you have none of the tech needed to fuse living flesh with digital devices and inert synthetic materials?

Why do we at Ayakkayoli (/clg/) enshrine the goddess Chapipi as a Computer Virus given life if we have yet to create taxonomic language for pathogens (implying both the presence of high-quality machining tools and 19th-century understanding of biological sciences) and understand how certain sorts of code can hijack and either destroy or co-opt machinery? Just having that kind of chuuba in the pantheon kind of justifies having at least a few advanced weapons.

Why do deadbeats survive that long as reanimated bones unprotected by the elements?

Why haven't the worshippers of Sukoya Kana caused Niji as a whole to totally outstrip the rest of the world in medical tech? Having hospitals and nurses implies a high degree of organization and bureaucracy in the medical profession.

And on a similar note, what understanding of chemistry, physiology, math, fluids, and neurological science gives the Teamates a goddess that explicitly delivers DRUGS via a modern syringe--replease with rubber seals and standard volume markers? Amelia has a concealed holster for a pistol with a repeating box magazine, how is that being explained away?

VSJ+, are you taking Hajime at face value? Is she merely an overgrown caricature intended to emasculate worshippers of the slain goddess Kiryu Coco? Robot space dragon? What? You guys got automatons, not to mention the kind that can be grafted not just to human flesh, but the genes of magical beasts?

It's all very schizo in mythos and tech level, but the details are there if you know where to look--SOMEBODY'S gotta have developed some of these late-1800s, early 1900s things in isolation and given them the vital backing of RELIGIOUS PURPOSE, which ensures the adoption of these techs locally--but crucially, keeps one nation from accumulating more than one branch of advanced tech due to other types getting touted by rival faiths.

That's why /clg/ has to be very centralized and militaristic. We've got RTS, /vspo/, a SHITLOAD of HOI4-fags, and Holdfast, so yes, we're gonna spam advanced firearms and be anal about army comps. That is what we turned our primary chuubanite usage towards, since that's what the gods like. Yoki's a cafe owner. We have to have strong trade links and cosmopolitan cities, not to mention sophisticated political and financial apparati for people to discuss in coffehouses.

>>19473001
>I guess we can chalk it up to in-universe sect difference?
i am saying there isn't a difference. my idea is your idea taken to it's logical conclusion, at least from my perspective, though i guess waiting for /asp/ and /become/ to agree to my interpretation would be fair, even though i'm not sure how long it will take for them to get in here. should i still anchr it for future suggestion?
also, chuubanite is described as ebing influenced by whether or not your chuuba streams and what not. what about for fetist and neutral groups who don't have a chuuba, or hybrid generals that have chuubas, but also focus on a non-chuuba subject i can't think of any example besides /meat/, but the fact that /meat/ has royna/guro chuubas means other groups can have chuubas that cater to them, too.

>>19473251
Yeah, sect difference it is then. For /asp/ and /become/, I guess we can see if the next batch of envoys to them will elicit a positive response. Still, even if they decide not to come, I don't think we should write their lore from them unless you want to take up the mantle of writing for their lore in general, not just the part that we need.

>>19473247
I won't mind IRL people dressing in stripper fetish clothes prone to wardrobe malfunction

>>19473247
that's magic in general. it's a bit lazy not to try to turn your magic system into a hard magic system. the less suspension of disbelief is necessary, the better. this is, after all, a world building thread.

I think I'll pet my bread dog and go to sleep. I need to sleep before insomnia ruins my night more.

>visit /nasa/
>gets smothered by bread dogs
https://youtu.be/rHLLDOyZepY

>>19473491
Good night, spaceman

>>19473429
>Yeah, sect difference it is then
but what is the difference?
as for /asp/ and /become/, if we assume their magic will take the effects that the threads are targeting, then regardless of how they explain it, or what rituals they take, it requires chuubanite. isn't that enough? if we wait for everyone to come in before we incorporate lore that might involve them, we would be waiting for every thread to come here to do almost anything, which is a bit unrealistic. at least would you say it isn't much of a leap if /asp/ can make gods with chuubanite, and /become/ can become gods with chuubanite, that /meat/ can kill gods with chuubanite? saying that until two threads show up and approve of my suggestion, /meat/'s whole religion is pure schizo seems a bit unfair, too, especially since they haven't come over here in all this time. i suppose that presents a question, should we have deadlines for thread involvement, and should we care about the opinions of threads that refuse to participate? for a while, we said they theoretically shouldn't while we let them anyways. maybe i am biased, in which case please do help me with that. and again, could i at least anchor the idea under suggestions?

>>19467391
Seconding >>19469499 . /hlgg/ is the last remnants of a continent-spanning empire which has split up into multiple independent nations. Think europe after the roman collapse, with /hlgg/ being byzantium

/hlgg/ claims itself to be the de jure empire and true leader of the splits
They all laugh back

>>19474029
I disagree with the idea that we should write for other generals for the sole reason to justify our own lore on a personal level, but I'm just another anon like you, so I have no right to stop you from doing that.
/meat/ being able to actually kill gods, though, will be a subject that concerns everyone in the project since, well, other generals and splits have their gods too, and it ties to fundamental designs of this world. If you want, I can submit this issue to the next OP, but it's not something that we should include as facts in this world without at least some degree of discussion.

As a /meat/head I do feel like giving us actual deicide powers is OP
It's like having a WMD. Hate us? We'll resign your chuuba
Even though in practice we've only eaten chuubas that are already retired

Attempting to kill the goddesses or even implying they are mortal is a heresy of the highest degree.

>>19474445
I imagine this + their practices lead most splits to hate Meat. Anyone associating with them is likewise considered insane heretics

>>19474721
Jesus was hated for he spoke the truth,
/meat/ was hated for saying chuubas were once mortals,
/asp/ proved them right but not one bats an eye

>>19474316
/meat/ kills gods that are weakened enough to be killed. it's not like we're going to kill /ggg/'s chuuba tommorow and suddenly without explanation they lose their chuuba. it's basically an in-lore explanation for how graduation and retirement works.

>>19474421
as stated in >>19472690
>if they are too powerful, they can sometimes recover before we finish, but our actions bring them closer to... [death]
our efforts aren't guaranteed. in fact, i was imagining the need to do multiple ritual sacrifices before it could actually bring even a weakened god down. i was also kind of imagining our cultists to set up conditions for chuubas to be weakened enough for our rituals to work behind the scenes, but nevernmind it fits lore, but it requires too much preparation to actually be used like a threat. better to do it in secrecy when the opportunity arrises, as the best actions /meat/ can take only add a force pulling deities to the mortal realm, which might not even have that much of an influence.

>>19473001
>I don't really see how your proposal factors in sacrificing mortals
forgot to respond to this, still the same thing. the same way human blood nourishes the regions of /meat/, god blood nourishes the regions of the world. either way, it's the cycle that /meat/ cares about. the sect differences between "the ocean is made of water" and "the ocean is made up of many substances, one of which is water, which is made of two parts hydrogen and one part oxygen" remain nebulous to me.

>>19475065
Most Holofans /here/ don't watch indies and most /here/chuubas are even looked down upon outside of their threads. So maybe the Empire thinks /asp/ is heresy as well.

>>19475131
reminds me of the elder scrolls and talos for some reason. also vivek or whatever that guy was from morrowind i think.

>>19475131
wait, but aren't some within the empire on good relations with multiple indies, and even /meat/?

>>19475065
So the /meat/heads see themselves as messiahs? They are more than deluded and very surely full of demons! That nest of blasphemy shall be burned down and erased from this earth.

>>19475131
Actually
Considering how Holofans are the most fundamentalist-minded people, believing Hololive is the only vtuber group in existence, indies are 2view heretics, etc
It's logical that /hlgg/ is the most stubborn and zealous

>>19475273
fools tend to respond to things they don't understand with violence.

>>19475246
Well the empire officials (/hlgg/) think lowly of /here/chuubas because of Koopa and Kiki, and shitpost against most "2views". But they might have luck in some splits.

>>19475246
Perhaps we established diplomatic relationships with them too soon. They have now showed their true intentions of spreading their sacrilegious ideas.

>>19470373
>>19470917
Dropping by just to reply for a bit
I purposely did not address how the magic itself worked since I figured explaining it would be better left for the thread to discuss and writing that proposal was already a lot of work.
and yes, I used nuclear physics as the basis for how the decay worked. My idea was for the process itself to be purely magical and only analogous to nuclear decay. Either way, I think thread consensus should ultimately decide.

>>19475079
>/meat/ kills gods that are weakened enough to be killed.
As long as it involves non-/meat/ gods, it'll be a matter of concern for others.
>still the same thing
If they're the same thing, would you mind using my phrasing instead of yours, then?

>>19475273
I mean, /meat/ being attacked on a semi-regular basis seems to match its early lore...

>>19475378
To be fair, /meat/ has always been open and frank about its religion and ultimate goal.

>>19475308
most hololive threads hate the general, most niji threads hate their general. is it because the generals are always full of the most retards and normies who can't even stick to a specific chuuba, or are you that way because all the specialized groups hate you?

>>19472684
I've been a bit busy lately but I have plans on trying to get some sort of a tectonic guess made. Ultimately I'd want to pair it with a post on resource placement too, like in what sort of geographies certain ores show up and so on. I don't know if any other anons have considered taking a crack at it though.

>>19475416
Would you say chuubanite is atomic energy, then? That seems to be the main point of contention in that regard.

>>19475294
Quite ironic coming from the barbarian that eats human flesh and attempts to make the goddesses bleed. You shall meet your end with that same blade.

>>19475417
>If they're the same thing, would you mind using my phrasing instead of yours, then?
sure, but "life force" is longer than "blood" and has a different connotation, despite being the same thing. it's like "germs" and "bacteria" for people who know how meaningless the word "germ" is.

>>19475422
I'd say former
t. former globalist, current split regular

>>19475478
My personal opinion? I'd like chuubanite to be magical first and foremost, but the magic could have qualities that are analogous to physics phenomena like atomic energy.
What do you mean by atomic energy in this context?

>>19475485
as we have already told /who/ we welcome anyone to try our meat, as it is deliscious, and many of us are sadomascocists, still, we are only barbarians in a sense. eating human/chuuba meat is just a cultural and religious thing. i guess since /hlgg/ existed back in /jp/ where /sbg/ was ostracized by ignorant fools, it only makes sense that you guys would maintain those backwards, closed minded views.

>>19475515
globalist for holo, or niji? the way i hear it, it's the same, but i just want to know for context.

>>19475693
Holo

>>19475640
not that anon, but i was saying chuubanite's only magical quality was the ability to bridge the gap between the heavenly and mortal realms, and that otherwise, it was basically just another substance.

>>19475730
Honestly not caught up on the subject enough to say anything on that. I'm still reading through the last thread. I'll first have to understand what the heavenly and mortal realms are and what the act of "bridging the gap" would mean in effect.

so please, do elaborate

>>19475730
i think it would be more grounded that way, since now there is an explanation for the magic, even if it is basically just deus ex machina in a material form that acts like a proper resource.

>>19475640
Like what >>19468071 and >>19470224 suggested, basically.

>>19475693
So you take your dogma as the truth over all others, huh? We shall see if the other nations allow their goddesses to be defiled by the likes of you.

>>19475794
a really long time ago we agreed that chuubas exist in their own realm, and that /vt/land is the 4chan realm [spoilerwe didn't get into whether or not there would be a twitter realm, or reddit realm, but it was somewhat implied[/spoiler] and so my idea was that we could ground chuubanite in a kind of realism by saying that it connects the realms, and that if you had a large enough quantity of it, you could theoretically make a portal to another realm, but the required amount would be really large, and it would spend the energy from chuubanite very fast, so it's ultimately impractical/improbable to ever happen.

>>19475929
fuck, missed the "]" lol.

>>19475422
In /nijiEN/'s case most of the split regulars are people who hate the shitposters that constantly shit up the discussion about their livers.
During deadhours usually 2am-6am est these shitposters aren't as present and some split regulars go back to the main thread and sometimes nijiJP and other corpos are shilled there

>>19475929
The proposal that the chuubas can affect how chuubanite behaves implies that chuubanite does in some way bridge the gap between the realms, at least in the direction of chuubas -> /vt/land.
If I'm getting this right, you are suggesting that the bridge be a two-way street, allowing connection from /vt/land into the chuuba realm through chuubanite?
Based on these few minutes I've thought about this I do not see any problems with that idea personally. It would make the system more symmetrical, which is good.

>>19475849
you should at least try it before you say these things. projection sometimes reflects onto the projector, so maybe you might be the dogmatic one here. death is a natural part of the cycle of life, attempting to subvert it leads to stagnation, as seen with you, it would seem.

If you guys are gonna keep the Rushia threads area, can I suggest that shortly after a certain event, a mysterious gaping hole opened in the center of the territory and it draws in most Fandead who come close

>>19476090
pretty much. i also suggested that chuubanite itself be... the "lifeforce" read: blood of the chuubas. assuming /asp/ intends to use it's chuubanite to make chuubas in this setting, and assuming /become/ wants to use their chuubanite to become chuubas in this setting, it would make sense for chuubanite to be one factor in what gods inherently are, ie their life force. mixing yourself with this life force, and then gaining enough of a following to be revelant /here/ is how one would turn themselves into a god, and if they are so similar to a preexisting god that it's almost identical, then they could /become/ that god. i further proposed that this would be the process /meat/ would use for their rituals to varying degrees of success, usually requiring conditions in the heavenly realm to be optimal, which is obviously harder to control for from /here/

So did the Holo Global Empire once own all the territory of the Hololive generals, and they all broke away one by one, or is it more like the splits were separate but culturally and geographically close enough that the Empire could strongarm or otherwise convince them into becoming vassals

>>19476143
Only an arrogant would try to explain the unexplainable within their own set of biased understanding of the world and then sell that as the one truth. Wishing the consume the flesh of a goddess is sickening and by spreading such blasphemies you only seek to fuel your depravity.

>>19476337
I'd say the former option is cooler. Having our own fallen Rome would be cool

>>19468071
>mixing it with stuff to make cookies would make it less potent, but the bonding of atoms is where the power is derrived (assuming it is supposed to have comparrisons to nuclear physics).
Nuclear energy is derived from bonding of particles that constitute atoms, chemical energy comes from bonding of atoms themselves. If chuubanite and it's magical energy is analogous to nuclear energy, then chuubanite bonding with other materials should not really affect it's powers outside of purely magical/alchemical ways.

>>19476337
probably the latter, but partially the former. /jp/ hated having more than a few vtuber threads up, but they happened every now and then. in /vt/, without that external factor keeping them all in one thread, /hlgg/ slowly lost it's influence over the multiple splits

>>19476408
Oh shit that sounds sick. So maybe for gens made after /vt/ (Gen 6, Council, IRyS), they were settled by different people after /hlgg/ lost some territories

My headcanon is that pre-/vt/ the Holo Empire owned the whole continent, there were no splits.
After the realm was banished from /jp/ that's when separatism and decentralisation starts happening until /hlg/ breaks into a dozen smaller kingdoms we see today
Same case for /774/ and /2434/
Once continent spanning empires but the /jp/-/vt/ disaster broke them
And even mythical is the last remaining country of Big Five worshippers
They're like mandaeism irl. The oldest religion in the world, but so close to extinction

>>19476392
fusion and fission are what create the power from nuclear reactors and nuclear bombs. the more chemical reactions, the more the atoms reach critical mass, the more energy is releaced from the atoms. neutrons were used to increase the mass of atomic structures without effecting the charge, making it easier to reach critical mass. i am not sure if i am understanding you right, but if you are saying impure nuclear fuel would be just as effective as pure nuclear material, i disagree, although i am not a nuclear physicist, so maybe i am wrong.

>>19476486
probably. keep in mind this world represents /vt/, not hololive or chuubas or anything, that was the whole reason why chuubas were supposed to be in their own realm.

>>19476314
I actually did think of including a section in the proposal for a similar idea for /asp/ specifically. An idea of them being a faction of fanatical alchemists hellbent on creating their Magnum Opus, a completely new type of chuubanite, or perhaps the in-universe version of the philosophers stone; some sort of a universal chuubanite which, when ingested, would turn the one consuming it into a god.

>>19476314
>>19476569
So yeah, I'd personally be okay with that idea if the rest of the thread also agrees.

>>19476569
i was thinking that if you just gave a human enough chuubanite a part of them would ascend to the heavenly realm.

>>19476595
much appreciated.

>>19476507
I feel like there were two empires at conflict in the ancient era: the Holo Empire and the Niji Empire. They held control over most of the world pushing the smaller indie kingdoms away. Then the Holo-Niji Hyper War happened and the empires fractured into the current nations

>>19476628
Honeslty, there could be multiple ways for this ascension to happen. /asp/, /become/ and /meat/ all could have their own methods of achieving this.

>>19476669
ya, but i liked how my idea turned them all into the same process applied in different ways. it gives it a kind of canon, if you know what i mean by that.

>>19476669
I dont think /meat/ is about ascension
If we are then we would have our own /here/-chuuba that admitted she's from our place

>>19476595
so should i suggest >>19472690 to the anchor?

>>19476726
no, /meat/ abuses the ascension process to force weakened gods to decend to the mortal realm, allowing us to kill them.

>A chuuba gets suspended/retires
>/vt/ UN Security Council collectively mutter the same line
"Damnit /meat/!"

>>19477092
"We'll share the meat! Their followers can even get the first dibs!"

>>19476515
Nuclear reactions are not really chemical reactions but this is a point of semantics.
>if you are saying impure nuclear fuel would be just as effective as pure nuclear material.
I am not. What I am saying is that the chemical bond of a radioactive atom does not in any way affect the radioactivity of the atom, or the amount of energy released by the atom when it decays.
When an atom decays, independent neutrons can be emitted by the atom. These neutrons then can become adsorbed into other nearby atoms. If the atoms the neutrons were adsorbed into were of the right type, these atoms become unstable and decay, producing more free neutrons. When you have enough of these right types of atoms within a substance for the rate of decay to neutron adsorption into the right type of atoms be close to 1:1, then you have nuclear fuel in a critical mass.
I'm not a nuclear physicist yet either, but I study the subject.

For chuubanite to work in a similar way, it would have to be canonized that chuubanite decay itself can cause other chuubanite to decay. This would mean that chuubanite in vicinity of other chuubanite would decay faster. This was specifically proposed against in the chuubanite proposal at "Proposed general laws" section 3.a.b. since chuubanite decay affecting other chuubanite would then allow for the creation of critical, and perhaps even supercritical, masses.

Furthermore, nuclear fuel's purity is related to the number of radioactive atoms within a given volume / mass, whilst, according to the proposal, chuubanite's rate of radiation would be related to the surface area of the chuubanite object, which would make it resemble black-body radiation a lot more than nuclear radiation in effect.

>>19476569
>>19477239 (me)
So the way I see it, there would be no difference in the absolute amount of energy in 1g of pure chuubanite dust and 1g of pure chuubanite dust baked into a cake. Its just that the cake has the energy a lot more "spread out"

So where's /meat/ on the alignment chart? They eat people and want to kill gods, but friendly and clerically bureaucratic

>>19477414
whoops first reply meant to >>19476515

>>19476727
Yeah, other than
>and that that is the only magical effect it has
since a lot more other magical effects have been suggested.

>>19477417
If we're going with D&D alignment,
>Lawful/Chaotic
/meat/ society probably leans towards the lawful way, given that it puts a heavy emphasis on their religious laws and organise its society around that concept. It's also fairly diplomatic and sticks to its promises (although that's not something unique to /meat/).
>Good/Evil
In many D&D settings, torturing and eating humans automatically put one on the evil side of the axis regardless of politeness or motivation.

>>19477239
i think i may have misunderstood what you said, also the chemical part was a mistype, i should have said nuclear reaction. is it not true that the chemical bonds in nuclear fuel can effect how easily the stuff can reach critical mass? that was what i was saying, i guess i misunderstood you. also, i knew he added that part specifically to deal with the idea of hitting critical mass, see >>19470917
>he even tried to address the possibility of critical mass knowing that would be too powerful by saying that it couldn't reach it in a large enough quantities to be a concern

>>19477487
what i was saying was that the singular magical effect of chuubanite, that being the bridging of the gap between the realms, is what causes all magical effects from chuubanite. all of the magic is in the heavenly realm, but chuubanite can bridge that gap, allowing for the magic of a given chuuba to be expressed through chuubanite.

>>19477239
>which would make it resemble black-body radiation a lot more than nuclear radiation in effect.
Or interestingly enough, somewhat similar to hawking radiation since the ratio of mass to volume would be lower for small chuubanite objects, leading to small chuubanite objects evaporating proportionally faster than large chuubanite objects.

>>19477417
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TokenEvilTeammate

>>19477534
one problem with the DND alignment system is that it's difficult to know where anything stands. if /meat/ is correct, we are saving the world by doing what we're doing.

>>19477680
"/meat/, did you just destroyed the entire WACTOR pantheon?"
"...maybe"
"Oh you, rascal!"
Applause and roll credits

>>19477589
Chemical bonds do affect how easily nuclear fuel can reach a critical mass in the sense that there being other atoms in a given volume would naturally mean that there are less radioactive atoms inside the same volume.
Other than that, they do not. A radioactive atom existing alone in a vacuum is just as radioactive as the same atom existing bonded to another element. This is actually part reason why some radioactive isotopes are so dangerous since, if ingested, they can accumulate in the human body where they continue to be just as radioactive as they were outside of it. Radium is one example of this, since it can accumulate in your bones, making your bones radioactive.

i still feel somewhat happy that /tg/ complimented my collage with a few of my own contributions to our lore makes me feel noticed. sorry that that one guy wasn't openminded enough to give the rest of you a chance though. >>83612269

>>19478018
I can't see that post, what'd it say

>>19477589
Ah in that case, I support your view

>>19477995
ya, that's what i was thinking. single atoms exist and decay in their own frame of refrence, for lack of a better way to describe it. well, i hope you finish your studies. i have done personal research on nuclear physics, but my major is technically neuroscience, ironic since i feel like i know more over all about physics, despite the equations i have for describing stuff in the brain.

>>19478095
surprising that it doesn't show, but i generally use wakarimasen when dealing with dead links. if you want the spoon, he basically said /meat/ lore was among the 5% of gold in the 95% of shit. they were shitting up this place without any knowledge of what was going on, one guy even disparaged our map, saying it was something some anon just made, and nobody thought about someone else said "if only"

>>19478129
k, i'll anchor it so that others can give their feedback. btw, are you the anon that wrote the stuff on the chuubanite or someone else?

>>19450380
>>19472690

>>19478202
A bit rude but it's nice they liked /meat/'s at least especially since I wrote the Takeus story
>spoiler
kek

>>19478311
ya, your stories are fucking awesome! thank you so much for your contributions! the closest i got to a green text was the one in full spoilers, all the rest is just a bunch of "what if" third-person worldbuilding concepts like the religious stuff. it seems like everyone in /meat/ is really talented, and i am both humbled from, and strangely prideful of the other anons who have contributed to my thread culture, you guys are really talented, thank you for letting me partake in all of this.

Sad that /meat/ is the most kicked down general

>>19478545
suffering is a major driver of adaptation, that's why it's one of /meat/s 4 steps in the life cycle. i'd wager that we wouldn't be what we are without it.

>>19478545
On that note, where do jannies fit into this world?

>>19478702
the ubergods, i'd say. maybe they have their own realm. maybe it only applies to /vt/'s realm.

>>19478735
Evil spirits and daemons

>>19478702
The Kindly Ones

>>19477767
>if /meat/ is correct
Oh please god no.

>>19481988
You'll appreciate it once we staved off the vtuber apocalypse
*shoots Nijis in the back of the head*

>>19482068

https://youtu.be/nvm3QFJeuAA
Anya-Petra Anthem

Bump

bump

Bjump

Blimp

WHERE THE HELL IS EVERYONE?!

>>19487760
I just woke up! But I have been thinking about /rose/'s situation in my free time.

woo, I don't think having a canon process for ascencion into chuba-ness is a good idea, multiple nations will have multiple religions and interpretations of what happens in chuba-dom, so forcing the process down on chubanite feels counterproductive for wolrdbuilding processes.

>>19467378
Anchoring >>19450380
Also added a paragraph about /meat/'s drug bombs, now with 20% less gay-inducing effect

If /hlgg/ is Hololive Global then /nasa/ is banned because according to them Sana doesn't exist.

>>19488641
What gay effect?!

bump

>>19489390
>If /hlgg/ is Hololive Global
What did you mean by this?

DON'T DIE THREAD

>>19472489
Damn, I had a feeling her drug overdose stream might have fucked her up

>>19492447
It means I'm a fucking idiot for mixing them up. Either way /nasa/ is banned from /hlgg/ because Sana doesn't exist in Hololive according to memes.

Anyway, looking for alternative names to chuubanite. Also feel free to name new materials made from fusing chuubanite.

>>19498357
I like the Vitubium/Vitium name for the element itself.

That being said, the element likely doesn't exist on its own and forms minerals - those different mineral forms can have a lot of names.

>>19494575
Don’t do drugs, kids

>>19500169
Too late. Tripping on mushrooms right now.

>>19497758
Global IS /hlgg/

>>19500276
fucking love mushrooms like you wouldn't believe, hope we get a mushroom chuba for holoEN3

>>19498525
i like vitubium, too. if people like the idea that it's the life force of the chuubas, that word has a double meaning. "vitae"

>>19501064
i would love it if a /meat/ chuuba based their design off of the zombie ant fungus or something similar. many fungi love to eat corpses, if you think about it.

>>19500832
Then Sana doesn't exist to them.

vitubium could be the element. Vitubinite could be the ore. Vituboil could be the refined liquid fuel. Vitubide could be a gas weapon. Also this isn't technology we will have for a decade or two but what are your thoughts about compressed chuubanite/vitubium? Its the element compressed into a dense form.

>>19504219
Compressed vitubium? Just call it Copium.

>>19504986
Copium is a gas though.

>>19427759
>Though it is formally called the Kingdom of Atlantis, /ggg/ has no actual monarch ruling the nation. The nation is ostensibly a union of communes, with each commune granted quasi-autonomy over their respective regions. There is no central governing mandate, save for a Convention of War as mandated by their Constitution which empowers a council of representatives from each commune to lead the country in times of war. The monarch for which the Kingdom is named is the mythical Gawr Gura, the being whom all shrimps and chumbuds worship. The /ggg/ Constitution was based on the Atlantean scripts, said to have been washed ashore by Gawr Gura to help guide her followers at the nation's founding.
>/ggg/ is a premiere maritime nation, but not because it posseses a strong or sizable navy. Indeed in most cases it has no need of either. Rather, the one advantage for each /ggg/ vessel that sails the vast seas are their complete immunity to any sea-based disasters such as storms or squalls. The ocean is Atlantis' ally, and the great blessing of Gawr Gura endures to this very day. Therefore, aside from reaping a huge bounty in the fishing industry, /ggg/ has also become the world's "traffic officer", who profit from escorting vessels down the right path safely towards their destination. Should any one country displease Gawr Gura, the nation will then be quick to withdraw their support, leaving the offending nation's ships to be tossed on the capricious seas.
>/ggg/ has always maintained a strong neutrality when it comes to international geo-politics, as its unassailable protection from the seas has ensured that whichever side they join would always have the immense nautical advantage. Still, they are never too eager to leverage their primary position for any sort of gain, as the primary teachings of Gawr Gura has always been to love and cherish life. The only occasion on which /ggg/ might be roused is when Holo-land (is that the continent's name?) itself is threatened.

Remind /nasa/ to create waterproof packaging for our maple bun pastries for Atlantis.

>>19506545
Nice one, chumbud
>>19450291

And don't forget to check out our current prompts if you're interested
https://rentry.org/7nt3b

A lot of etiquette and entertainment in /nasa/ comes down to zero gravity. We have gravity rooms that spin around the station. Though technically they're not actually gravity so much as they spin so fast it pushes you to the ceiling. The gravity rooms is where cooking and eating happens. Since stray bread crumbs in zero-g could mean a death scentence to anyone its forbidden to eat on the job. Though now that /nasa/ is earthbound they've been eating and sleeping more. When you're in a low gravity place for a long time and you come back down to Earth you feel the strain in your bones. Fortunately we have high calcium veggies and therapy to help strengthen bones. However physical labor is much harder than we're used to. Also lab grown meat and protein substitute may work in space, but we now need real animal meat for protein to rebuild our muscles. Fish and red meat needs to be reintroduced into our diets. As to ease digestion of red meat we have ways to grind the meat. Our digestive systems can't handle red meat steak at this time. Plus we have to make sure the meat doesn't have diseases and parasites as our medicines for those are limited.
>>19450380

>>19508200
Man the guy who said you guys are playing RimWorld wasn't kidding. This is some interesting stuff

>>19506545
I have been meaning to ask: are the shrimps in /ggg/ actually shrimps or? Also, are they still landbound, or do they have some degree of ability to live in water?
Also want to ask how does /ggg/ thinks of /meat/, who has an island off their coast?

>>19510508
I never played RimWorld.

had a few ideas about how graduation effects the world and by proxy the different nations of /vtland/
In my eyes, since the chuubas are said to be goddesses on a higher plane of existance whose simple whims can have catastrophic effects on the lower plane of /vt/, a graduation is akin to the death of god. Schizophrenia lies dormant in the souls of every citizen however when a man's oshi is slain and graduation is certain, that schizophrenia blossoms into a rampant plauge of sickness and mutation. Schizo plauges if you will.
>notable schizoplauges
The fledgling goddess Aloe Mano had few followers and as such, when she graduated the Empire was able to avoid mass catastrophy. The Purple Lust manifested as a crazed and unhinged desire to mate with any and everything that moved, spurring the followers of the short lived goddess to indulge their deepest and most carnal desires without end. This never ending lust was at first accepted as a coping mechanism since many were denied medical resources such as copium or hopium due to the fledgling nature of their goddesses, while copium resources stayed secure, the Empire's night life suffered from a massive shortage in whores with the sudden boom in demand. Those afflicted with the purple lust were said to have a powerfully potent musk and ran a constant fever which caused their heavy breaths to steam in the air, many ringo alchemists have claimed that the sweat of those afflicted was slippery and glistened like lubricant, causing a massive demand for the substance in later years. Often times the affected would burn out from a mixture of exhaustion and dehydration from the rapid fluid loss that resulted from days upon days of nonstop sex, some survivors found their way to the east where they were said to find their homes within the realms of Vshojo, others overcame their affliction through finding their oshi in another, less volatile state.

>>19512640
We could also just make them natural disasters, like earthquakes that destory entire cities, or a meteor just blowing shit up and leaving big holes on the ground, althought we could keep the schizophrenia attacks.

>>19512868
I've been thinking about Sana's graduation. If she does graduate within a year then I can say /nasa/'s station's power supplies die and everyone is forced to leave the station or freeze to death. If Sana gets terminated then the station will self-destruct leaving nothing behind but a smoldering irradiated crater. There might still be some escape pods and scraps around. But in that scenario everyone in the station dies.

>>19513743
Sanallite...

>>19514345
You gotta plan for Sana's graduation eventually whether it be one year or twenty.

Bumper

>>19516046
Usually everyone's on when I'm in bed. Which should be in about two hours. Could solicit some ideas in the meantime.

>>19517340
Like what?

You'll think of something. Anyway /nasa/'s been raided by schizo Mozzies again. Told them not to open the gates until Sana broadcasts. I'm demoting the security chief tomorrow.

>>19513743
If /nasa/ goes down, would meat be satisfied with a meal the size of a galaxy?

>>19520394
the nuke wouldn't even leave bodies

>>19520394
Sana will actually find a deep dark corner of space and supernova. Her remains wil scatter across the universe. Any parts of her that reaches the world will become meteors of Vitubian/Chuubanite that fall from the sky.

proposing a military alliance with /pcg/:

IN exchange for territorial adjustments on our shared border, barring a fortified corridor of territory through which you shall retain unrestricted access to the holy cities we share,

AYAKKAYOLI will ship /pcg/ modern weapons and endorse wars of conquest, particularly against /wactor/ and /vsj/+, so long as two conditions are met:
-the lands seized match or exceed either the yearly tax revenue or square-kilometer measurement of the territories changing hands FROM /pcg/ to /clg/.
-a 300-year mutual non-aggression pact is put in place between our two countries, with the option to change it to mutual defence pact if so wished

SHOULD these conquests be undertaken, three of Ayakkayoli's tagmata will be dispatched via a pre-determined sea route

AYAKKAYOLI will, furthermore, guarantee the independence of the /774/ buffer state existing between /vsj+/ and /pcg/, and defend it from King Ignatius' ambitions.

OWING to the relationship between the Lia Likers and Kurogumi, Ayakkayoli will offer to reorganize lands from /wactor/ deemed to be a territorial over-reach into a nation of /sxg/, which will be preferentially colonized by /pcg/ citizens and /corpo/ colonists

AYAKKAYOLI will search for physicians and therapists across the globe in order to bring the mind of queen Pippers back onto a healthy path, in return, /pcg/ will agree to send defeated peasant rebels and political prisoners over our borders, under guard, to help settle our new territories in the northeast--5% of their tax revenue will be sent to /pcg/ for 5 years. If the medical staff's best efforts produce nothing, a referendum between candidates judged to be sufficiently independent-willed to ensure a stable and smooth succession will be organized--but conducted purely behind closed doors by /pcg/ officials only. If the physicians are found to either be maliciously worsening her condition, further payments will be made.

/PCG/ will agree to endorse Ayakkayoli's claims to the portion of the Veibasin territories between the Lech-Err river, border with /voms/, and border with /774/. Ayakkayoli will in turn endorse all territorial gains /pcg/ makes via colonial ventures, genocide, charter companies, outright purchase, and traditional military conquest in the lands currently held by /pyon/.

>>19522175
Now this is lorefagging

Bumping with my preliminary wiki-style map for /meat/ mainland

>>19524919
That's a good looking map!

>>19524919
This looks great, what did you use to make this?

>>19525314
Thanks!

>>19527228
Inkscape and too much free time at work. Basically tracing the coastline and borders the old-fashioned way before adding the roads and cities using wikipedia's map template.

So when are we sending out new invites to the generals?

Bump

after two days, still no /meat/ thread? i hope nothing bad happened to the other thread anons.

>>19531786
The Janis demons of this world keep spawn camping them...

>>19532307
i always knew the meidos would be the kind of people to gank early level regions to make themselves feel stronger than they actually were.

>>19531786
New /meat/ up

>>19534252
ty

>>19532307
>>19533380
That's a thought: Do the meidos/jannies play a role in the world? Could their actions be equated to natural disasters such as hurricanes/earthquakes and such?

>>19535475
they might be demigods over /vt/, or demons. idk. they are high on their own power, but they can't even get rid of bait threads, so they basically have no power in the long run. just the occasional inconvinience. nothing comparable to a natural disaster.

>>19535609
I imagine them being similar to History Monks in Discworld - this secretive, religious organization who cleans up the timeline, and they do it for free.

>>19535634
it's not fun if we don't reflect proper janny culture by making them incompetent, self agrandizing losers who think they are more important and impressive than they actually are, while repeatedly blundering in some of the most pathetic ways possible, and when the urge to point and laugh at them overpowers you, as it often does with jannies, they smite you like the sore, pathetic losers they are. also, they do it for free. "clean up the timeline" is giving them too much credit, i would say. maybe i am being a bit unfair to our local shit cleaning mutts, but only a bit. keep in mind that other jannies influence our opinion of jannies as a whole, so some of them are respectable enough to do their job and stay quiet about it.

>>19536584
Those sound like dragons, powerful but don't share the moralities of lesser beings. Only interested in their lair or flying around and destroying what they feel like

>>19536584
I don't know which generals you browse, but jannies were always decently quick to respond in mine. The only bad thing I remember is pruning a thread once for a joke they didn't understand.

/meat/ thinks jannies are demons high off their own power, /hlgg/ thinks their incompetent dragons, and generals where they do their job think of them as demigods.

How bout that

>>19536785
works for me
one man's evil spirit is another man's benevolent fae

>>19536700
/v/, /jp/, and /sci/ are the ones i know most about. the /sci/ jannies put it on their resume as though it wasn't utterly pathetic, and yet they still can't kill the thousandth lowgrade coomerbait trash or "math isn't real" threads. /v/ is notoriously shit, if you can find a thread talking about videogames, you might enjoy it for the couple of hours or so before it gets deleted, or just dies due to the sheer spam of pure garbage, and /jp/ doesn't really have any mods, last i heard. besides this place, those are the boards i frequent the most, though i like to lurk in all manner of them every now and then.

>>19536938
To be fair, they are usually. But not always. Deleting doxshit in /hlgg/ and /pyon/ last I went there

>>19537325
well, that's good for them.

>jannies
I would say they're probably some kind of walking natural disasters. They have enough power to hamper (but not devastated or destroy) parts of countries (sometimes parts that said countries want to purge). They likely have some kind of sentience but does not directly communicate with mortals, and their actions can be incomprehensible. I think them being dragons or some kind of powerful creatures like >>19536785 suggested fits the mould decently well.

>>19537784
Photo of Jannies patrolling the world of /vt/ for lawbreakers (anyone they dont like)

"Citizens of /hlgg/ watches an angry Janny" - 2021

seems /meat/ can't be bumped. wonder why.

"Evening in /infinity/"

>>19538149
>>19538029
Fucking kek. I like these
>>19538231
This one is cool

Jannies/Meidos are like powerful intelligent non-human creatures tasked to maintain the natural order of /vt/
However, being intelligent creatures they are also open to biasness such as keeping their favorite nation safe from attacks but letting smaller neutral nations to the shitstorm anomalies

>>19538352
Many nations take the acts of jannies against /meat/ to be proof that the goddesses hate them

/meat/'s Processing Plant

>>19538379
/hlgg/ please. you aren't what you used to be, stop pretending you are.

Jannies arresting a known hyperwar criminal off the coast of /2434/

>>19538352
I think they probably appear to be intelligent, or at least sentient in some ways, but either cannot or choose not to communicate with mortals in any meaningful manners, and what they consider worthy of purging follows a certain pattern, even if it's not always observed or logical. Seems to reflect their actions well, and I kind of like eldritch horrors like that.

>>19538425
Looks pretty neat, although actual /meat/ processing probably is more ritualistic, and I guess the water won't be that red unless it's some kind of still water.

/nasa/ Explores the ruins of Rushia territory, post-Rushia Chuubanite Deicide event

>>19538609
Dope as hell. Who's the artist?

>>19538620
Simon stålenhag

>>19538650
Thanks buddy

Multiple Janny entities

"We felt sorry for them. We thought we could help them. Give them a hand. Table scraps of technology. What we did, was all out of goodwill. When we found out the modifications they have made, it was too late to stop them." - Sanalite engineer after his collaboration operation with /meat/

>>19539041
so what was the collaboration on? what did they make?

>>19539149
/nasa/: We won't give you our space tech. Here have a steam carriage instead.
/meat/: *replaces components with actual living tissues*

>>19539275
Horrifying to think /meat/ is in good standing with kronies. What horror will they come up with together?

>>19539617
Magic powered biopunk clockwork

>>19538352
Personally, I think the jannies should be depicted as the Rovers a la "The Prisoner"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RV3RXMNGVs

>>19540793
More info
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rover_(The_Prisoner)

BUMP!!

not much activity right now huh

>>19544129
>/meat/ culled
>kronies arguing about flags in their own thread
>invites doko
Slow night...

>>19544524
>night
SEAbro...

>>19544547
Taiwan

Bump for great justice...

Things are speeding up a bit

Which country is the Bretonnia of /vt/?

>>19470224
WE WILL /become/ the incarnation of Lamy.
We will become Lamy.
There is no greater purpose than to become Lamy.
All shall become Lamy.
This ain't lore just one schizo looking back to the old cult era

Veteran /become/ poster here. See with /become/ there was never really lore or deep ritual or meaning. You have to understand there were many paths we poked at with the entire idea of /become/ from it being a result of tainted booze, flat out magic, some sort of SCP-type shit happening, etc.
Hell we had one of our better writers just have their MC just wake up suddenly as Lamy.

/become/ Lamy was the entire unifying call of the threads. And one day Boss Lamy will be back with the Doujin. It will be a good day

>>19550779
so would you say the suggestion of /asp/ and /become/ being the same process is a bad one that you wouldn't agree to, or are you ok with it?

/nasa/ could make a railroad. However /nasa/ needs to make steel mills first. Plus railroads need more steel than we can scrap from the station. So we still need a quarry.

>>19552719
I honest to god have no idea what the fuck /asp/ even is.

>>19553976
/aspergers/

>>19553739
So you're saying : /nasa/ could not make a railroad. even then, it's one of those things that require so much additional manpower and industrial power that it'd be impossible with /nasa/'s current conditions.

>>19554057
Do you know how little that narrows down things on this board?

>>19554123
Yeah pretty much. /nasa/ has to build the steel mills by hand because they have no modern construction machines. They lack the people to do that. At best /nasa/ can make a workshop or a forge where they produce steel by hand. Which is inefficient for railroads. For transport /nasa/ could build a light jeep if they can make fuel. However jeeps are useless in the tundra's snow. So we just have to figure out another transport option.

Wait is /nasa/ already an established civ or are they JUST starting?
Because if they are just beginning to start society from their crash then they wouldnt have an entire country the size of france on the map.
They would be considered 'settlers' in an unclaimed region.
For balance sake... I'd propose that /nasa/ starts already as an established society. They have been here for a few decades and already have basic industry and infrastructure. They have already made diplomatic actions with their immediate neighbours like trade and pacts

>>19554514
Dog sleds, ez.

>>19554714
We got bread dogs.

>>19554697
We've already scrambled escape pods to claim areas. Agriculture has already been set up both insude the station and outside. We have very basic metal working. Still need to build forges for steel. Inside the station we can work with aluminium alloy. We also have bakeries and food canning/sealing inside the station. So /nasa/'s got some basic infrastructure already in place despite being here for 6 months. Also keep in mind 2/3rds of the country is frozen tundra which is uninhabitable and unworkable. Its like Russia where hardly anyone lives in Siberia. I'm still waiting on tectonics before placing the quarry.

>>19555398
So in-universe
You just claimed a bunch of uninhabited tundra and every neighbour just went 'sure you can have it'?

>>19555579
Tundra isnt really a much sought-after thing

>>19555625
Tell that to Muscovites during the 1600's
To be frank, they were pissed off because of the whole Mongol thing

One more thing. /nasa/ does have 4G wireless networks set up throughout the region. So we have near instant telecommunication in the region. Though this doesn't work outside the region. There's a lot of essential tech that survived the crash to help get us started. Though we still need to find our factories and weapons vault that broke off the station.

>>19555764
Well, for the russian empire Asia was also the objective, in this case it's the forest druids of /uuu/, the mountain monks of /rrat/, and /rbc/, all of these are not expansionist at all, the only one with actual expansionist views would be /who/, and they are blocked by the massive forest at their north.

>>19555579
Our neighbors are /rbc/, /rrat/, /uuu/, and schizos. We'll have to hear their word on territory dispute. We bring /rrat/ offerings of food. /rbc/ might not care as much about the territory if it lacks metal. /uuu/ has their forest. The only country I can see mad at /nasa/ is the schizos. Which explains the anti-Sana raids on the board because they deem Sana unworthy for Hololive because nepotism.

The schizo wastes could be like the inuits
They receive visions of schizo rrats through the chuubanite infused aurora

THE WORLD CUP STARTS TODAY

>>19556843
WOOOOOO!!!
*bombs the World Stadium*

>>19556257
Nah, they're just ice trolls.

Cursed idea
Because of their geography, /nasa/ isnt russia
Theyre Finns
Suomi

/rose/ here with an idea update! I was thinking about it and decided I could totally make living in a frozen tundra work! I have an idea that Rosebutas used to live in /NijiEN/ with everyone else long ago. However, due to various reasons that could be expanded on later, they were forced out of the land. With nowhere else to go, they migrated to the frozen tundra where everyone thought they'd simply die out. But using chuubanite, they created large self-sustaining biospheres dotted around the land that allowed them to continue surviving. I can actually use that to do things like making ways for them to survive the tundra when they have to go out and face it.
That way, we don't have to move /rose/'s land and I have a fun way to make a species survive in a harsh environment!
Do you guys think that could work?

>>19557985
>Sana even is a finnish word
>for word

>>19557985
>>19558340
I was thinking of isekai'd space Austrailians.

>>19558340
>bass-boosted-xfiles-theme.wav

Was away for a day or so, since this thread was created. Qrd on stuff?

>>19559082
Some anon made a "What if your general was a nation?" thread, and it took off.

Not like this...this calls for a war, /wah/

>>19558302
Sounds like you need a lot of glass.

>>19560397
Probably! We'd likely have to create our own insulated glass to keep the heat in and the cold out. A big focus overall would be trying to build a dome that keeps things warm inside, so it's more likely that there would be dots of glass as opposed to one big glass piece. Like a giant colander or something!

>>19560638
To make glass you will need sand. Depending on far away from the equator you are you will also need sunlight. /nasa/ if you go up north far enough has 6 months of night. And I'm not sure how feaseable artificial sunlight is with chuubanite without space age technology. Could have a natural phenomena of roses producing sun stones that absorb sunlight during the summer then shine all winter.

>>19561433
SIX MONTHS OF NIGHT!? I'm definitely going to have to take your advice on the sun stones or something like that. Maybe it could be our sort of natural wonder?
I also suppose they could get the sand from their cold beaches, but... Maybe not. They'd have to get their sand from somewhere else.

>>19560397
why would they need glass? If they use some other source than the sun for light, there is no need for glass

/nasa/ Principals log:

Its worse than we thought. The antis have infiltrated our network taking over Sana discussion. They've attempted a musinformation campaign to rename /nasa/ into /asan/ - Anti Sana Against Nations. They're trying to false flag a civil war inside the network to shut it down. I've warned security about opening the gates too soon. Who knows what else /asan/ is going to sabotage. Air-filtration? Atmosphere? Greenhouse? I put the station on high alert to look out for /asan/ agents trying to sabotage our infrastructure. Everyone is ordered to carry a stun rod (a poke-arm with an electrified tip) and a loaded pistol at all times when permitted. There are some zones where these weapons are prohibited due to risk of fires. We'll have to sweep those areas thouroughly for intruders.

A warning to all who read this. /nasa/ has been invaded by anti infiltrators. They will spread misinformation about us in order to start wars with other nations. Their goal is the destruction of /nasa/ and everyone inside. Be wise and always seek truth.

>>19450380

>>19561433
I dont see why producing artificial sunlight with chuubanite should be restricted to space age tech. There is fundamentally nothing special in sunlight, you just need to be able to produce light with similar spectrum to sunlight.
Is there a sun-themed chuuba around? their chuubanite could reasonably be able to produce sunlight

the obvious downside with using chuubanite is that chuubanite is supposed to be a somewhat limited resource, and thus expensive

>>19562395
Did we ever decide how limited chuubanite was? I had always thought of it like fossil fuels, where there's a limited supply but since we're pre-industrial no one's concerned about it running out any time soon.

i want all these hags to give my balls and shaft a tongue lashing

>>19563746
WAIT WRONG THREAD

>>19563746
>>19563892
Holy fucking shit my sides

>>19558302
Wait, did you not exchange land with nijikr? Was away for a while
>>19563746
>>19563892
No this is the right thread, please elaborate

>>19564112
Don't really know, it was brought up as an idea but no one ever confirmed anything. Either way, if my idea works it should be fine.

>>19450380
Relinking >>19402545 since the image didn't get added to the flag archive last time.

>>19565039
oh thats your new flag? gomen I'll add it right away

>>19565167
No worries. I realize now that I wasn't very explicit about it in the original post, lol.