/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>19398578
Anchor post for any additions to the map/lore. Please reply here for archival purposes.
If you will be using a rentry link, please use
>http://rentry.org/
instead of .co, as the latter is filtered as spam.
Thank you!
Please also report if there's outdated/duplicate lore in OP!

(Pic changed on request)

>>19398578
Updated current map. Will need to update the OP with this when I can.

>>19398330
Chemical analysis is not the same as reverse engineering. There's a whole process and ritual for Kronii milk to be made. We just want to know if some of our hypothesis are correct in regards to how exotic substances work.

How is this /vt/ related?

>>19398934
sorry sir, we can't cure brain damage

>>19398934
>How is a world built around generals and splits in /vt/ where the chuuba are their gods related to /vt/

>>19398934
we're turning /vt/ into a world/setting
What board do you think it should be on if not /vt/?

>>19398911
It's human breast milk that has been prayed over. The kronie belief is that it's been transubstantiated into the breast milk of their goddess. I have no idea how they gave it performance enhancing properties, unless there's more to the process than what the kronies say. Could it be some kind of placebo effect?

>>19398934
It isn't. This isn't even talking about vtubers. NASFAQ is more vtuber related than this.

>>19398911
We got trust issues given there's now someone who's started a spreadsheet to keep track of every member of chat Kronii interacts with and how many times per stream.

>>19398578
You forgot the subject.

>>19399054
>>19398934
Your complaints are noted, and ignored.

>>19399082
Fun. Well if you don't want us to analyze the milk then we won't.

>>19399031
It could be a genetics thing.

>>19399031
maybe there's different variants, special shrooms for tge hallucigenic, snake fang for the steroids

>>19399417
Hey, enforcers can be trusted to follow their orders. If those orders include putting you to the wall, then you must've done something to deserve it...

>>19398058
Be careful spaceman! The substance you seek is Kronii Milk, not Kronie Milk! The Kronie Milk is merely a prank for private enforcers (and sometimes foreigners too)

>>19399587
It could be a permutation in /infinity/'s women. Sort of like how type 2 diabetes is triggered. The right conditions activate the body to produce this milk naturally. The world has a different evolutionary path to Earth.

>>19399840
...no, that sounds stupid.

>>19399947
Just a thought. Even if it is stupid.

>>19399031
Its just a fucking placebo and all kronies are fucking insane. Why am I the only one who sees this madness for what it is ?

>>19400182
I like that idea

>>19400182
Your words are empty and show nothing but ignorance! The milk sacrament is real and you would know it if you had tasted it.

Ignore the ramblings of this /nasa/ spaceman trying to make sense of the ritual. Its clearly something that is beyond our scientific understanding. We mean no offense to your culture. We're still trying to understand the world.

>>19398745
All anchored posts in >>19273764 should be archived. Also left a note about including the updated maps in future OPs.

>>19400182
Hey, it works for /meat/ too!
... I guess you have a point about madness.

Is it wrong to think one of /nasa/'s tourist attractions is the bread dogs themselves? They are cute and very approachable. They're fun to pet and hug. And they do dog tricks.

>>19400182
maybe it's a nocebo.

>>19400396
Worry not. Many do not believe in the properties of our divine milk until they taste it

>>19400630
How fast does news travel in this world anyway? Would non-neighboring nations even know that a bunch of spacemen had crash landed? Would people in the west indies have heard about what happened in rushia?

>>19400745
the spacemen news would travel very slowly due to how unverifiable most of the world would find it, but the pop up of a new schizo zone in the middle of a highly populated continent would be noticed inmediatly

>>19400745
I imagine the rrat pedlers have an amazing information network when it comes to spreading news, but it's difficult to tell fact from fiction, leaving people far from the source of the news ignorant

>>19400986
those damn monks, always spreading misinformation

>>19401067
I-I thought the rrat peddlers were separate from the brat monks

>>19401067
To be fair, I do like the fantastic feeling of having factual stories tainted by legends and story tropes, just like how history used to be recorded in ancient times.

I'd imagine news of space men arriving has traveled at least through the Holo continent by now if its been 6 months.

If there's one thing lowland baiters are good at, it's getting word out. I imagine at least the Empire hires baiters as messengers to run around the continent and report back when something interesting happens. Of course, it gets distorted along the way. What should be news about peaceful spacemen looking for their goddess becomes news that hostile aliens abandoned by their goddess (WHO HATES THEM) landed to conquer the globe

https://rentry.org/inhmp
Reposting /meat/ lore proposal from the dead thread. I think it's sufficiently balanced, but I want to hear from the rest of you first.
Be noted that Mai's blessing does not negate pain. I thought about adding a variant of it that does convert pain into pleasure, but it might be too much (plus it's based on a side character of the doujin that didn't become a vtuber... yet).

>>19401439
/nasa/'s Mozzies would make sure the invading force narrative persists. Their goal is to remove Sana from holo council. And destryoying her people is one step of the way.

>>19401474
Looks good, /meat/head!

>>19398745
/yeah/ lore

The Kingdom of /yeah/ was created out of the union of three entities, The City State of /SCAM/, the Kosakan Nomads, and the Phantomo Tribe realizing that through unity it had a better chance of surviving through the schizo raids and winter of baits. With their peoples united under one banner, /yeah/'s power and influence spread, throughout the Ethereal River basin, to the Northwestern Heights, until it settled into it's current borders today

Its power is centered on the City of /SCAM/, now renamed as the City of /yeah/, located on the banks of The Ethereal River. It is where most maritime trade is conducted, with The River never freezing even during the harshest winters, it's harbor is bustling with ships throughout the year. Its streets are lined with shops selling products like fishes, furs, and gemstones. /yeah/'s main exports are things such as lumber, grains, fishes, and metals.

Outside of The City's walls are smaller towns and villages with their own expertise and specialities. Towns next to the "Bunch of Forests" forest export lumber and other products from the forest. Towns in the Northwestern Heights mine for iron, minerals, and gemstones and sends them downriver. And towns on the border of /yeah/ are fortified and are heavily guarded to secure the peace inside and outside of /yeah/

Only wishing to preserve its peace and stability, /yeah/ has no ambitions to expand out of its current borders, with its armies only existing to preserve those current borders. /yeah/ is willing to trade and make allies with nations that help secure its security.

History:
/wg/ started out as nothing more than a rogue band of warriors ousted from their homeland for their overzealous glorification of violence. This small tribe roamed the lands in search of a new home, picking fights and making enemies everywhere they tried to settle down. This led to them being booted out of territory after territory until they finally found a place to call their own in what is now /wg/. These original members of /wg/ were obsessed with inflicting and receiving as much pain as possible, believing it to be the only way one could experience the richest and purest sensations that life had to offer. This would all change, however, with one citizen's discovery of a new use for the chuubanite native to the area. With the proper preparations, one could ingest the chuubanite and harness its energy to receive prophetic visions from the patron deities closest to them. The First Prophet journeyed throughout /wg/, telling all of what he had experienced, and his tale quickly spread like wildfire among the people. It captured their hearts and imaginations, revealing new sensations that all the pain in the world had not been able to give them. Clearly a change was needed. Swords and whips were put down in favor of scrolls and quills as the people of /wg/ turned to this new source of inspiration and wrote down their scriptures to be consumed by all. In more recent memory, there was an event known as the Nightmare Omen, where on one fateful night, a singular terrible vision came to all the citizens of /wg/ while they slept. Upon awakening, the people were filled with rage and terror, rampaging through the streets as they attacked imagined enemies and friends alike. For most, the aftereffects of this strange vision faded by the next day, leaving many confused about what had happened and concerned about how to prevent another such catastrophe. Though there were some among the populace who seemingly never recovered and continue to ransack and pillage in a blind fervor.

Society:
Life in /wg/ today reflects both its violent beginnings and newfound passions. At a young age, the children of /wg/ are subjected to a battery of tests to determine their aptitude for one of two roles: battler and oracle. Those who do not show signs of being suited to these tasks are returned to their families to live their lives, growing up to fulfill a wide variety of occupations. But for those who are selected, an intense training regimen is laid out for them. The future battlers are trained to endure under excruciating levels of agony and to deal it out in equal measure. Those who are destined to become oracles are taught how to harness the powers of chuubanite to bring forth all manner of visions to be shared amongst the populace.

Government:
Though not literal prophecies of the future, the visions oracles receive are important sources of advice and warnings of what is to come when interpreted correctly. For this reason, the nation's top oracles serve as a committee which runs /wg/. Amongst themselves, a leader is elected and given the title of Archbishop, a position he keeps until death. The Archbishop and the other highest-ranked oracles thus form the governing body of /wg/, using their visions as a guide for their decision-making. Though there are rumors that some of these members are taking bribes from unknown sources to give out prespecified visions.

Trade:
Unsurprisingly, the chief export of /wg/ is the scriptures divined by its oracles. The fetish nations comprise one major font for trading, as there is no shortage to their hunger for more tales of their deities' debauchery. As the culture surrounding the oracles and capturing their visions grew, so too did the industries most closely related to that practice. And so /wg/ is also a large producer and exporter of parchment, pens, and ink. The forests in the northern half of /wg/ provide much of the nation's paper and lumber needs.

Cities:
Omelas is one of the largest and most populated cities in /wg/. Founded at the site where the First Prophet made his discovery, it is considered the cultural center of the nation. Rentry is the capital of /wg/ and home to the Grand Library, a massive structure dedicated to storing the many scriptures produced by the country's oracles. Legends say it was constructed by a single man, determined to provide a place where all the works of /wg/ could be accessed by anyone who desired them. Though some stories have been rumored to be lost forever amongst the Grand Library's numerous labyrinthine shelves, those who dare to venture deep enough into its collection are sure to find what they seek eventually. Dusbin is a small bustling town in southern /wg/. Settled by a combination of /wg/ and /asp/ citizens, it is one of the first sites of the collaboration between these two nations. The Google Docks are a large network of harbors along /wg/'s western coast, handling the bulk of /wg/'s trading as well as housing a number of fisheries.

I am once again asking anyone good with Photoshop to update this territory map with the new placements for Who, Hoshiyomia, and Sakuran as well as the mountains for KFP if necessary. Thank you.

>>19401474
About Mai's blessing, blows that destroy the head should be fatal, limb loss should be permanent

>>19398745
>>19402545
Dropping off some updated lore for /wg/ since what's in the archive was written with us being an island in mind before the map and tone for this world had been established.

>>19401474
the kid was a mascocist, his enjoyment of pain had nothing to do with the physical anomaly that is Mai-chan, that would likely be the case with our soldiers as well, though some more than others. it's also worth considering whether or not those with Mai-chan's blessing should be infertile to all but those who also have the blessing, as was depicted in the doujin also, "ritually suitable flesh" sounds like a good bit of balancing, since Mai-chan healed from her seppuku with a store-bought chicken, and recovered from having her head and womb turned into paste by repeated gunfire with a couple pills full of normal caleries, so i just wanted to point that out. ty

>>19402614
A throwaway line from Kaede suggests that his masochism has something to do with his neural wiring, so I figured it's not just pure masochism that's in play. Regardless, that's a somewhat moot point since he isn't a vtuber so far.
As for fertility, I've been thinking about it. If we go by the doujin, female with that blessing would be infertile unless the male also has the blessing, but we don't know if the male can breed with normal females.
I think a way to adapt it into this setting would be to have both sides be infertile, or at least have the blessing not be hereditary, to avoid potentials for selectively breeding a race of Mai.

>>19402584
I'm fine with destroying the head being fatal for balancing sake, but I think limb loss should not be permanent, just takes a long time/a lot of ritual flesh to heal. Another possibility is to have fleshgrafting of that degree resulting in the limb looking like the original source, but I feel that might be more a /zomg/ thing.

>>19402545
>The Google Docks
Heh.

>>19402960
pretty sure it was hereditary. the baby was able to recover from being torn in half, but couldn't survive the blender since, according to the flic at the end, you can only kill her if you destroy every part of her. as for the head thing, i was suggesting having imperfect healing, for instance, you could heal a bone into the wrong place, or grow cancer cells that have to be surgically removed every now and then, resulting in our already short staffed military having an inconsistent rooster due to them constantly needing to heal from removing tumors everywhere. the brain is a delicate region, so descruction to any part of it, while not always fatal, would often lead to severe problems that could potentially make someone unfit for combat, with complete destruction leading them to being a vegetable more often than not. if it's an imperfect healing, it stands to reason that this kind of thing would happen every now and then, so i can accept that as a potential nerf, but absolutely we should keep them ability to restore limbs, if only for our more extreme religious practices. it's also sad that we no longer get to engage in skull fuckery, since brain damage. truly a terrible loss for our culture maybe we could say that due to our reserved usage of chuubanite, we typically try to underuse it, leading to these imperfect results, so if we are willing to spend more chuubanite, a soldier can recover from even the worst conditions, but since we are very reserved with our chuubanite we only do it for our society's most esteemed members.

>>19404006
>rooster
roster, lol.

>>19398934
This is the second infinity thread.

>>19404341
Both last thread and this one so far didn't have much input from /inf/ though

So before /nasa/ came along, everyone was just buying and drinking Kronii Milk and never questioned what was in it or how it gave them enhanced abilities?

>>19404006
It might be hereditary in the doujin, but since in this setting, there're multiple people with this blessing, and instead of being sex toys they're being made soldiers, some additional limits will have to be implemented. I figured it being non-hereditary would be a good way to do that.

I'm not too sure if we're that stingy with chuubanite since if anyone is qualified to get healed using it, it would be the blessed elite soldiers. I figured imperfect healing would be more common if they're done to regular soldiers or people otherwise more expendable.

I'm fine with brain damage not being fixable. I reckon if we want to throw some Viking influence into /meat/, we can make it so that all blessed warriors will eventually have enough irreparable damage that they'll be used as a source of flesh instead. As such, they very much prefer to get killed in combat or otherwise be eligible for final sacrifice instead of being stuck in a farm. I reckon the combination of accumulative damage and this mentality should help keep the size of the unit low, and ensure that they don't become practically immortal with constant grafting.

>>19405242
i like that viking concept, especially since it's fitting with our religious interpretation of things. how about this, our medical infrastructure is centrally located at home, so if you recover the bodies of elite raiders and bring enough of them back, they can be revived, but if their bodies are scattered within enemy territory, there isn't enough of them to recover, and thus they are considered dead. this makes our defensive abilities better, since any lost soldier defending our borders is near the place where they could be recovered, but also makes it possible to avoid losing too many of our most elite raiders, at least the ones that make it back. this keeps a bit of the canon for Mai-chan's blessing, while also maintaining the blunt of the nerfs to our offensive capabilities. powerful defense-centric abilities that cannot easily be used offensively, and that come at a cost (extreme example being /nasa/'s nuclear bomb scenario) are more reasonable. the healing would still be imperfect, but it would allow us to potentially get around some degree of brain damage, and the recovery time, plus the fact that it will only be in our own territory means that it would be much harder to be offensive at longer ranges from our territory, effectively making it a purely defensive ability with deminishing returns that would only be used to recover the most elite soldiers who make it back to /meat/. i suppose this thread will have to judge my reasoning, though. if it is such a concern i'll accept it, but i would at least like some options to deal with braindamage without it being an instant death every time.

I fear how much influence I caused /nasa/ to have on the writing here.

>>19406371
feel proud of it, you guys have great lore so far. i really like how, despite your advanced technology, you guys can still make it seem like you are almost doomed, to the point where people constantly pitty your situation. it takes a good writer to figure out a way to do that, though there isn't much of a problem to me if people decide to do things differently to properly depict their thread culture.

How many gods are walking among the mortals?
I know Beatani, Kiki, Pippa are.
While /asp/ is where mortals go to become gods so they must have some kind of interdimensional gate

>>19406371
Nah we like your lore, that's why we incorporate it

>>19406553
I suppose it shows even with the best technology in the universe if you are unprepared for the worst then you are doomed. Now /nasa/ has to make a priority finding the weapons vault or else they'll get overrun with schizos and raiders from other countries Mozzies lied to.

>>19406746
Would the council generals come to /nasa/s aid?

>>19406580
/meat/ here, we were talking about what godhood meant a while ago in responce to the stories about killing rushia i think inorder to become a god you need some degree of worship to gain the right to enter the heavenly realm, ie you need to have a channel with at least a few people who know about your existence, but inorder to be considered /here/, you need to interact with your community on 4chan, and to get a place on the map, your followers must create territory threads and defend it in your name. /asp/ and /become/ have similar processes, but /become/ requires you make yourself similar enough to the god you are trying to become during a ritual of sorts. gods are strengthened by worship, but can be weakened by other means, such as when they are struck down by the gods above them graduated and when they are weak enough, the act of /becoming/ a god can also cause the god to /become/ you. this is the process /meat/ uses to try to kill a god, by forcefully summoning them to the mortal plane and then sacrificing them sometimes multiple times if necessary to return them to the life cycle. this is how i percieve it, and potentially a few others in /meat/, at least. tell me if you like it.

>>19407059
I liked it more when it was just essentially transubstantiation (you look like Rushia now, we will pray over you, you areRushia now) BUT this makes more sense if /asp/ and /become/ have legit ways to become actual gods

>>19406876
I don't think so. First we need to prove we are worth defending. The bread basket idea is a start as we did have machines to plow the fields and dig sluices. Still have to irrigate the crops by hand though. Also we do need Sana's blessing for our own people. The despair comes from the lack of Sana broadcasts.

>>19406876
For /who/, the strategic advantages of obtaining /nasa/'s technology and knowledge (even in limited forms) is probably enough political incentive to spend resources in assisting them enough to survive, /nasa/ would probably not give those up so easily thought, so it's sort of like a long term investment

>>19407173
i like it because it is fitting with greek mythology, and also makes /asp/ and /become/ essentially the same process. in a way, it still is a kind of transubstantiation, but it requires a community of sorts to believe it, not just a single person. isn't that more appropriate for the setting? now, as for the actual different realms, maybe we could say there is a way to physically enter different realms through some portal or another, but it should be exceedingly difficult for the most part. obviously when gods walk among their followers, they partially leave the heavenly realm to be present in the mortal realm, but otherwise it takes effort to do that. maybe we could say that it requires a certain amount of chuubanite to do so. in fact, we could say that chuubanite's primary function is to bridge the gap between realms, explaining why multiple places can use the same resource in vastly different ways. that adds a degree of realism, or at least provides an explanation to how chuubanite works in general. what are your thoughts on that?

>>19406252
I don't think our medical infrastructure is mostly contained at home. If nothing else, our reliance on rituals mean the clergy itself forms a significant part of said infrastructure. It seems likely that they'll bring some ritual tools along for less severe injuries, and perhaps emergency blessing of flesh for healing and repairing purposes. Basically, it seems reasonable that we'll at least have the equivalent of a field hospital, as /meat/ heads will definitely realise the need of that due to how Mai's blessin and fleshgrafting works.
That said, the idea that downed warriors have to be recovered for healing lest they die is in line with what I mentioned in the rentry entry, with it being a prerequisite of proper caring. I suppose there is an implication that those who know how to deal with /meat/ heads will make sure to maim, maybe even burn (fire, the eternal enemy of superhuman regeneration) any downed /meat/ raiders ASAP, which can be interesting to write about.
As for brain damage, I mean even in real life, not every concussion is going to have a permanent effect, and Mai's blessing implies that at least some degree of injuries will be treatable. It's just that the lifestyle of a raider means severe injuries in general are rather likely.

>>19407173
I would say some kind of apotheosis is definitely in play when it comes to /asp/ (less sure about /become/, anyone from there here?), and those who have gathered enough a following to make a thread (the prerequisite of existing in this world as a country) is similar enough to the idea that worships makes one into a god.
I think at least when it comes to /meat/ religion, their god-eating rituals really involve processes that make the sacrifice /become/ the god in question, although that might not be something observable from neutral parties (hence the transubstantiation analogy). Of course, it's also awfully convenient that /meat/ only eats gods who are already fading away, while saying that their god-eating rituals make them fade away...

>>19407842
Heh, this means that boiling and eating a blessed warrior is a pretty good way of killing them

>>19408068
>when the way to fight against /meat/ is to do what they do

>>19407767
more on that, i suggested to /meat/ some time ago that chuubanite could be the blood of the gods, which would explain how our religion would interpret it's use. we were always planning on using chuubanite for our god killing rituals, so this works very well with our understanding of things.

>>19407842
when i said the medical infrastructure is centrally located at home, i should have clarified that i meant the bulk of our medical infrastructure would be at home. of course we would have some tools to heal our soldiers in battle, but it would naturally be more reserved since chuubanite is a finite resource, and even if they carried a lot of it, they might only have the tools to use it to a certain extent, likely not as much as in places at home.

>>19408068
the loss of a soldier, though felt deerly, is worth it if it encourages more to follow our religious doctrine.

>>19407842
>it's also awfully convenient that /meat/ only eats gods who are already fading away, while saying that their god-eating rituals make them fade away...
more the ones that are already weakened. our interpretation is that we are guaranteeing their death by engaging in enough of those rituals that further return them to the mortal plane via the life cycle, but it's true that it might be seen as impossible to prove that our actions are having any effect at all from a neutral party's perspective. suspension of disbelief for this setting of course. it can be true that it is having that effect in /vtwbg/ while probably not being the case in the real world.

>>19408211
>>19408268
/if /who/ is to be anything, it is to be pragmatic.

>>19408268
I think we probably have a different idea on how limited chuubanite is. At least I don't think /meat/ will be that stingy about it. Maybe we can revisit this part once the resource thing has been decided.

>>19408558
Well, it's /who/ after all.

>>19408558
ya, but why would /who/ want to fight us? if anything, we should have friendly relations due to your interest in history, and our interest in your cannibal sects from /meat/s ancestry.

>>19408718
regardless of how limited it is initially, unless someone starts finding either a way to make more chuubanite, or an alternative to chuubanite, the concept of magic itself in this setting could slowly fade away. if it becomes canon that chuubanite is their blood, maybe we could say that /meat/s practices can increase the amount of chuubanite in the setting, but i am afraid i am making /meat/ too much of a center focus in this setting by doing that. it would fit perfectly with our doctrine, though. specifically the rebirth stage of the cycle

>>19408738
To be fair, those in contact with /who/ while being against /meat/ might become aware of it as well, and depending on how vulnerable they are, they might find cannibalizing /meat/ heads to be a necessary evil to combat their raids. inb4 this idea is spread by hidden /meat/ cultists in those countries to covertly spread the acceptance over /meat/ practices

>>19408916
I mean, it's not like finite resources in real life automatically lead to people conserving them either. It's only when the supply drops (and the resultant price increase) that people start becoming economical over those resources, and sometimes not even then, if people still going around in gas guzzlers are of any indication.

I doubt /nasa/ would have much for /meat/ to raid. We don't have much people to eat. And much of our technology is so advanced that it'll take years to figure it out. Though I guess we have wheat beer.

>>19409217
You can say /nasa/ doesn't have too much of a meat to it
I think the combination of distance, low population (density) and advanced tech is enough to make /nasa/ unpalatable to /meat/. They might even be curious about bread dog enough to want a trading relationship. Would /nasa/ like some chocolate?

/nasa/ is so far north outside of the usual circle I doubt /meat/ would have any interest to raid them

>>19409056
>I mean, it's not like finite resources in real life automatically lead to people conserving them either
that's a good point, but since i can see the conclusion of that practice over however many years it would take before it becomes a problem, i'm compelled to see if there are actions i can take now to aleviate it when it does become a problem. call it metagaming if you want, but there are a few aspects of /meat/ culture that would lead to conserving resources when they can't be used for something worthwhile at the time.

>>19409217
my thoughts reflect what this guy is saying. >>19409400 also, we have good medicine if you guys have anything to trade for it.

>>19405188
Sakuran has been suspicious of both Kronii and kronie milk since the start. We prefer to import any dairy product from the well-known Noel, mogudoog and Mion nation farms, though unfortunately a small minority of 35p seems to indulge in Kronii milk occasionally.

Also, to Hoshiyomia and Pekoland (though I don't think the latter is around), how do you feel about coming up with lore for MiComet in common? I have my own ideas but I'd also like your input.
In my view, the MiComet area is a common economic zone between Sakuran, Hoshiyomia and Pekoland. Initially, it was established as a zone strictly between Sakuran and Pekoland, as a containment zone for each nation's more fanatic supporters of the duo, and it was effectively co-led by the two nations.
Later, however, relations soured. The prominent theory is that heretic events and festivals in the PekoMiko land incurred the anger and/or fear of the deities, causing Pekora to send an oracle to the high priests in Pekoland to pull out their support. This brought about instability in the region, as the two nations blamed each other for the mishandling of the citizens and their practices, while the schizo residents themselves were running rampant, raiding villages around their borders, and sending rratssionaries to other nations to spread propaganda against one or both of Sakuran and Pekoland.
At the same time this was happening, Sakuran was beginning to establish better relations with another neighbour, Hoshiyomia. In the months/years what are our timescales again? during which PekoMiko was in turmoil, a new schizo faction, MiComet, had started to appear. Similar to the emergence of the PekoMiko supporters, MiComet supporters were few in the beginning but quickly grew in numbers and influence. This new faction of schizos saw the weakened PekoMiko zone as a favourable raiding zone, while the Hoshiyomia and Sakuran nations saw this as an opportunity to rid themselves of this new schizo group and also stabilise the region.
Thus, the PekoMiComet wars began. Long-time residents fought to defend their land from the invading force, engaging in multiple battles all across the zone. However, many original residents had long since left back to their nations, as faith in the duo diminished. Additionally, though Sakuran provided supplies to 35p in both sides and Hoshiyomia equipped their own hoshiyomis adequately, nousagis in the region received no support from Pekoland, as per their goddess' oracle. Outnumbered, outequipped and with moral at an all-time low, PekoMiko supporters were quickly losing ground.
After MiComet schizos had gained the upper hand by claiming more than half the zone for themselves, a ceasefire was signed. The area was to seek peace and allow the two sides to live alongside each other. Much like what often happens in such cases, the peace didn't last. Conflicts between residents of the two faction were immediate as soon as peace was established, and another war broke out. By this point, PekoMiko schizos were tired and had lost most of their faith, so they were completely routed, handing over their last lands to MiComet schizos.
Nowadays, the new MiComet zone is co-managed by Sakuran and Hoshiyomia, serving the initial purpose of a containment zone, but also giving Hoshiyomia easy access to the Eastern side of the Skyblossom peninsula. However, there still remain a small number of PekoMiko supporters in villages close to the Pekoland border, binding their time...

god I wish I knew how to write stories properly

>>19408738
>>19409056
well, one never knows, /who/ is much too north to be in /meat/'s raidzone, and it's navy works alongside Hoshiyomia's as per the coastline agreement, if /meat/ mercenaries were to be found on the enemy side, then having countermeasures is just common sense.
/who/ is ultimately a very young republic, one that seeks to avoid war, but being prepared is of course always a good thing.
Althought presumably we'd still be the strongest land power of the western coast of the continent.

Also, I imagine blessed warriors of /meat/ would be a delicious dish, when one is captured they'd be "missing" from official prisoner of war records as they'd be made into food for the soldiers. The search for knowledge is nonstop!

>>19409400
Bread dogs are not for trade. They're cyborgs made from bread that we cannot replicare at this time. Though I do have an idea combining chuubanite with bread dogs.

so, i really would like to know the general opinion of my suggestion regarding chuubanite, godhood, and how /asp/ and /become/ are similar to eachother. i would also like to know if anyone objects to the idea presented here >>19408916 since it might be too much for some.

>>19409744
there's nothing you can do to /meat/heads that they haven't already blissfully done to themselves. if anything, we would offer you a trade of our most coveted export, assuming Mai-Chan's blessing lets us make enough of it to spare.

>>19409531
This isn't a game, though, so there shouldn't be anything to meta in that regard. To play devil's advocate,
>chuubanite supply would be at least somewhat abundant if one of the stated use is to fuse it with gunpowder to enhance its effect
>the cyclic cosmology of /meat/ should encourage cycling of resources, including chuubanite (if anything, they might even interpret chuubanite as crystalised life force that can be put back into the cycle by being used)
>blessed warriors are among some of the most valuable individuals in /meat/, thus healing them properly would be prioritised

>>19409762
Ouch. Well, still, we have chocolate if you want even if we can't get some loaves in return.

>>19409744
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feng_(mythology)
I imagine they might taste kind of like this. Maybe not panacea or elixir of immortality, but at least they would be pretty palatable, and might even have some positive medicinal effects. Go grab your local human flesh now!

>>19410369
As long as you're not here to start fights or eat people /nasa/ will share some bread and wheat beer with visitors. Another anon in /nasa/ says we should be a chill people. So we're pretty chill.

>>19410129
well, it'd be purely a war/raid-time interaction, /who/ bans substances it considers dubious like Kronii milk and the like. and both it's population and it's leadership hold strong reservations about anything that's called "holy" or "blessed".
>>19410369
The eating of the blessed warriors would mainly be to completely eliminate them as a threat, the good taste is just a side effect to enjoy.

This place has gotten busier lately. Are we attracting more people or the generals who never posted before are now joining

>>19410837
neither. /meat/ /who/, /nasa/ and maybe a few others are talking about stuff. /who/ and /nasa/ have become rather frequent visitors, and /meat/ has been here from the very start, so take that as you may.

>>19410925
Well, /clg/ contributes a lot recently as well, and /wg/ and /yeah/ also wrote some lore in >>19402545 and >>19402095 respectively, so we do get some new participants. That said, /nasa/ does spark a lot of conversations, which is also a good thing.

>>19410837
That reminds me i should invite Hoshiyomia back in, i'm almost sure it was their loremaster the one that said he was dropping out until the /infinity/ timeloops ended.
>>19410925
/who/'s been here since the beginning too, i was waiting to see how others made their lore before i made any serious work on it.

What ever happened to /rose/'s pig people?

>>19411055
It was a proposal
There was another Rosebud suggesting there would be humans and plant-pig people, like with humans and orcs in Warcraft

>>19410925
>>19411007
To be honest. I'm here because Sana doesn't stream and I need something else to do besides house chores and video games. I got some lorebuilding experience from two failed projects and some original ideas of my own.

>pregnant chuuba thread pruned for off-topic
I now feel your pain, /meat/

>>19411271
>from two failed projects
Were they both paradox /gsg/ mods?

>>19411222
Pig people can be symbiotes to the roses growing out of them. Like the roses act as part of the pig people's appendages despite being a different creature.

>>19411413
Would the rose provide anything to the pig people?

>>19411442
Photosynthesis

>>19410788
well, during raids it would be mutual, so i can't blame you. some of our soldiers are "blessed" with a genetic anomaly that allows them to regenerate. their meat isn't blessed beyond their ability to regenerate, and it's only holy in so far as it is used in a ritual, you would just be getting normal meat, pretty much, so there's nothing to worry about.

>>19410369
>if anything, they might even interpret chuubanite as crystalised life force that can be put back into the cycle by being used
that is a good point, but in that they would look for things to use it on. the concept of rebirth applies to the life-giving properties of death, so if it was squandered on nothing particularly important, it wouldn't really add much to the cycle, the catch being that anything that is important to some is still important even if it isn't important to others. see the artistry in the upper classes being considered a continuation of the cycle.

>>19411011
pretty sure /meat/ was actively making lore for themselves during that whole time, so that was what i meant when i said that. of course some of the people who have been here from the first thread didn't talk much about their thread during the developmental stages, i was just saying that we have been active in that regard for a while.

>>19411330
They were visual novels during a time everyone was graduating college and running out of money. Everyone quit to look for jobs.

>>19410129
should i at least anchor the suggestions so we could discuss it at a later date?

>>19408916
>if it becomes canon that chuubanite is their blood, maybe we could say that /meat/s practices can increase the amount of chuubanite in the setting
Kind of on that, wouldn't the ascension of mortals to deities, a la /asp/, require chuubanite?
Not sure how this could be made more "realistic", but I would imagine the planet to have a chuubanite "pool", perhaps deep underground, that reaches the near-surface through multiple processes, whether natural or supernatural.
For example, my vision for chuubanite acquisition in Sakuran would be that small crystals of it are found in the lava from the volcano in the centre of the country, which are collected when it cools down. I imagine the mountains of rrat would have larger deposits in the form of chuubanite veins deep inside them.
While those are natural processes that involve the distribution of chuubanite amongst mortals, there may be supernatural processes that involve the transfer of chuubanite between planes. If we suppose that there is a certain amount of "raw" chuubanite in a pool deep in the planet's crust, it is possible that ascension to godhood pulls some of that chuubanite up through an osmosis type of process, to be absorbed by the aspiring deity. On the other hand, the death of a deity returns part of their chuubanite power back to the central chuubanite pool. I would argue that part of a deity's corresponding chuubanite is lost to the ether when they die, as many people may end up checking out of vtubers completely, as they lost faith and/or interest in the hobby, therefore sapping away some of the chuubanite.
We could even say that the planet's core itself is made of chuubanite. As more chuubanite manifests (more people start to watch a nd sub to vtubers and eventually end up in vt), the core, and the planet, slowly grow. If chuubanite somehow continues to be used up (vtubers fall out of popularity), the core and the planet shrink, eventually collapsing upon themselves in a world-ending event (if vt ever gets shut down)

>>19401474
>>19402614
>>19402960
>>19405242
Is that doujin even canon? I know it's by the real author but doujin is just fanfiction
On the other hand, we dont have to copy the exact mechanic of Mai's lore 100% since this is an original setting.

>>19411011
>That reminds me i should invite Hoshiyomia back in,
Please do, also of you can link them to >>19409616, as I'd like their opinion

>>19411564
I did remember talking about how /uoh/'s fountain of youth could be chuubanite infused water and /uuu/'s forests growing huge from chuubanite deposites underground. So volcanic ore isn't out of the question.

However, keep in mind that Chuubanite is an unstable substance that's always looking to bond with anything, including air. So if you get Chuubanite from a volcano then its already bonded with the lava. Even when it cools. That said crystals can be formed into glowing obsidian.

>>19411287
I was wondering were that thread went

>>19411564
i like it. that solves a problem some people have been having with how the size of territories is too small, and how it might be a problem if more traffic to /vt/ happened in the future. also, yes, if /asp/ and /become/ are the same process, the fact that /meat/ uses chuubanite for their rituals would imply that, at least as far as /meat/ is concerned, it requires chuubanite to ascend to the heavenly realm. i was only suggesting having a portal of some kind that could be opened if an excessive amount were to be used up to open it, and only for a certain period of time.

>>19411720
Mai-chan the vtuber is based off of Mai-chan's daily life, and anything done by the real author is typically seen as either canonical, or an alternate timeline. for all intents and purposes, we'll treat it as canon. copying the exact mechanic is more fitting for a cult that follows chuubas such as Mai, you would expect the magical abilities of /inf/ to relate to time given their patron chuuba, kronii, is the warden of time. only fitting if an established mechanic were used for our chuubanite magic. any deviation makes it more arbitrary, and keep in mind that the suggestion of it being Mai-chan was meant to balance the power compared to the others, who could be considered even more overpowered by comparrison.

>>19411564
Also a thought hit me. The spirituality of Chuubanite should be explained at some point. Chuubanite doesn't just bond with the physical. It should bond with the spiritual. This is why rituals and prayers are important when handling purer forms of Chuubanite. The stuff could even be seen as technically alive. But it still has limits in regards to low fantasy magitech.

>>19411835
Makes sense. As I've said before, Sakuran would specialise in flamethrowers for warfare, so we would maybe have a process to extract some form of easily flammable material from hot lava and ash, though it may end up explosive instead, while obsidian chuubanite can be used for tools and weapons.

Does that mean /asp/ injects a mortal with pure chuubanite so they evolve into an indie demigod?

>>19412123
Althought, i don't really want /infinity/ to have actual time-related abilities, just seems like a powderkeg, most of the chubanite related abilities can still be worked around if the material and magic does not exist, and it should stay so to keep away from any "power creep"

>>19412237
i gave a suggestion for that. it bridges the gap between the mortal realm and the heavenly realm. see >>19407767
>in fact, we could say that chuubanite's primary function is to bridge the gap between realms

>>19412293
Think of the spiritual aspect as another limit. If you try to science without prayer like /nasa/ tried, then shit just explodes. So when working with Chuubanite you have to work with rituals of prayer to stablize what you combine it with.

>>19412376
though i would clarify that worship and faith, rather than prayer alone, is what causes it to be spiritual. praying is just a medium for faith and worship, so the difference is negligible.

>>19411484
Yes, but given that the blessed warriors form the backbone of /meat/'s raiding army (as well as a potential source for more human flesh when the raidings aren't going well), one would think healing them back to (relative) health would be pretty high on the "important thing" list.

>>19411547
Probably. We can put it in the "current goal" part of OP next time.

>>19412293
Well, most chuuba's lore isn't bound by things like some semblance of power level parity, so some liberty has to be taken in order to fit them in this setting, hence my proposal for Mai's blessing being adjusted accordingly.

For some reason the thought of /nasa/ having "nuclear crematories" popped into my head. A joke obviously.

>>19412553
it would be if it were possible, but again, bringing an entire industry with you on a raid is impractical. elite raiders who get enough of their bodies brought back to /meat/ will get brought back to life, otherwise they will be dead. this means that our elite soldiers could be revived and sent back after recovery, but only if they aren't captured or dismembered beyond repair, to the point where their bodies can't realistically be revived anymore. it gives us an option without making that option too powerful, while also giving us a boost in defensive capabilities.

The best part about not bending over backwars to each general's demands is that we get to see some creativity going on
Take /meat/ for example, they wanted the viking theme at first and were given a tropical region, quickly switch to Aztec.
/nasa/ expected some place like Australia and got the taiga instead. But that makes them co-op with /rrat/

>>19412747
Regenerate too much and you get super cancer.

>>19412747
Wait, what kind of industry are they bringing on their raid?

>>19407059
>>19407767
>>19408268
>>19408916
>>19411564
>>19411835
>>19412123
>>19412237
i think these are all the links regarding that concept. they are a lot, so i'll check after it's posted to make sure.

>>19412809
we knew we would be based off of aztecs as well. you don't think we would base our entire identity around one culture, right?

>>19412818
that was one of the problems i mentioned, also, body parts regrowing wrong.

>>19412864
just supplies to fix minor wounds, mostly. the whole point i was getting at was that it wouldn't be enough to bring our entire healthcare system around with us while on raids, and thus we would need to bring our raiders bodies back home to fix the more extreme damage done to them, an easily exploited situation that also gives us an opportunity to ease reconstruction of our armies.

>>19412907
should i include >>19412376 and >>19412517 or is the fact that they are mentioned >>19407767 enough for people to get the concept?

>>19413023
I just thought of a scenario where if two people who can regenerate are tossed together then their bodies regenerate into one making them conjoined. Its probably a stupid idea.

>>19413023
No one said they would be bringing their entire healthcare system on a raid, though. I think it's safe to say most countries can afford to still have some kind of medical system while supporting a field hospital or two. I guess it depends on how one defines what constitutes minor and major wounds.

>>19402549
Hoi4 mod, I beg

>>19413314
/who/ trying to advance humanity
https://youtu.be/q4bGzE58-oc?t=253
https://youtu.be/LRBs5DYSPG0?t=68

>>19413214
i was saying that you would need the entire healthcare system to fix someone up completely, even after damage to the brain. just like how nobody said they would bring the entire healthcare system on a raid, i never said we couldn't bring any medicine on our raids, only that whatever we brought would be insufficient to fix the most egregious of injuries such as the complete destruction of the nervious system. maybe it's enough to fix lossed limbs after a while without the need to return home, maybe within a few months they'll be back in the fight if they just lost a few fingers or an arm, but if the head is damaged, they are effectively dead if they stay on the battle field, thus giving the desired nerf to that one guy, but they can still theoretically be recovered. we have a very small but elite group of raiders, they are valuable even if they come back to us in pieces.

>>19413477
based

>>19413314
>>19413477
bump for great justice and for this mod

plus age of empires 3 civs

>>19413533
Well, that comment was a response to >>19412747, where the phrasing was "bringing an entire industry with you on a raid is impractical". I have my doubts that /meat/ would need its entire healthcare system to fix someone up completely. I guess we can at least agree on that /meat/ field hospital will be able to patch up lost limbs with some time and effort. Then again, the practical difference might be slim outside of long-term raids anyway.

>>19413794
in that comment i was suggesting that it would take the entire industry to fix a brain. do you know how delicate the brain is? if this is an imperfect healing process, such as i have suggested for balancing reasons, then reconstructing an entire human head, brain and all, while being able to retain any amount of memories or functionality, all in a combat zone, using a process that could very easily lead to imperfect healing that, if not taken with extra caution, could leave the patient in a vegetative state, sounds almost impossible to me. at the very least, can we agree that it would be a good compromise in terms of balancing to say that, instead of being able to regrow brains on the fly, they would have to be sent back home to be properly treated after having their brains damaged, considering the other guy wanted any destruction of the head to be instant death, and wanted all lost limbs to be permanent? i think it is a good middle ground at least, since the functionality of head-destruction being the same as incapacitation still applies. the limb part seems a bit less reasonable, even from a medical perspective, since you can reattach limbs if you are fast enough.

>>19411055
>>19411222
>>19411413
>>19411442
Heyo! I'm that Rosebud! I've been working on details on the Buta species in my free time. I'll probably post what I have so far tomorrow. It's been fun working on how they function!

>>19414257
Well, >>19402584 said destroying the head should be fatal, which I agree with. I don't think there's really an "any" there, since it's more or less boolean: the head either is destroyed, or it is not, and relatively minor damage (in terms of things like concussions) counts as the latter. Other than that, I think the limit of /meat/ field hospital being healing of lost limbs is fine.

>>19414464
Awesome! Take your time if you need. We'll be around to help if you ever need us.

>>19414522
i kind of wanted there to be a way to revive people with brain damage, since it is more canonical with Mai-chan's abilities, but if you are saying definitively that it should be death if the brain is destroyed, regardless of whether or not the body is recoverable, then i can accept that.

>>19414657
I'm not saying brain damage is incurable even with Mai's blessing and fleshgrafting, just that it won't be able to fix it if the head's crushed like a watermelon.

Maybe regeneration is present as long as consciousness exist. Like how regeneration in SnK is tied with willpower. As long as the person can handle it, they can still regrow half of their body

>>19415032
That's not really how animal bodies work, bodies recover faster when not using energy for conciousness, it's why they tell you to sleep and rest when you're sick, following the chunky salsa rule is how these issues are settled in other stories and settings.

>>19414866
i was saying that it could, but only if they are brought back to /meat/ quickly, and even then there would be major imperfections that could present a risk. keep in mind, Mai-chan had her skull turned into paste with a gun, so there would be canonicity to it. also remember, this conversation was started with the elite of the elite in mind. i said chuubanite would likely be rare enough that we would only do it for the most esteemed of our society. the idea is that, at great cost to our chuubanite reserves, we could theoretically fix any medical issue that Mai-chan herself could have survived, but it takes more and more effort to do so, to the point where it's completely impractical to do it for any but the most esteemed.

>>19415032
i want to keep it tied to Mai-chan's canon, also what >>19415221 said, though how prayer works through chuubanite contains implications i would rather avoid telling anyone due to how strongly i oppose the potential result.

>>19415032
Not sure about the consciousness part, but I think willpower playing a role is partially implied in the writeup in >>19401474, where the body and mind of those with the blessing are "pushed to their absolute limit", so only people who have an acceptable level of willpower to make themselves useful as raiders will be trained as such, while the more feeble-minded ones will be relegated to farm animal duty. Then again, it's possible that any injuries where the blessing will have an effect will be so painful that only strong-willed individuals (or masochists, I guess) will survive the recovery with an intact mind.

>>19415288
Well, I disagree with the assumption that chuubanite is that rare. We only established that it's finite.

>>19415288
Actually, I do have a problem with that, even the elite of the elite should not be able to outright defy death, no one should, this really is one of the key parts of any grounded world, if they die, they die, and if the body is sufficiently damaged it should be irrecuperable, there isn't any actual need to follow how mai-chan's world and abilities work.

>>19415502
Immortality is a sin in /meat/ society

>>19415793
That is not my point at all, it's just something that should outright not exist or even be possible, no matter if cultural stigmas are in place or not

>>19415362
>We only established that it's finite.
my thought was mostly that it would be rare for /meat/. the way i see it, either /meat/ has too much of it, and is too big of a target, or doesn't have enough of it, in which case our short supply of soldiers would easily lead to our death. the other option is that we have a medium amount, but with how much our civilization relies on it we are relatively primitive in the world stage, as far as technology goes, though not without reason we would need to be pretty resourceful with it.

>>19415502
>if the body is sufficiently damaged it should be irrecuperable
that's how you would canonically kill Mai-chan. the only difference is extent. i have said i am willing to accept this condition, especially since it seems most are ok with keeping the part about healing limbs, it's just that having the option, as extreme as it would be to use it, to recover from brain damage would make sense given the other factors.

>>19415871
i have said a few times it is an imperfect process. if the brain is sufficiently damaged the expectation is that they will come back as a vegetable, or else they will lose a significant amount of some aspect of their being. i clarified before that it is supposed to always have deminishing returns. also, there are "grounded" worlds with entities that can defy death, even in the way /meat/ loathes, namely this one, ironically enough. but even beyond this setting, there are multiple works that depict genuine immortality, and yet are seen as perfectly fine. i would argue, for instance, that sauron's ability to live so long as the ring of power still exists itself being a nei indestructible, mind altering tool of world-wide influence rivals any form of regeneration /meat/ uses, and then some, and while he isn't immortal, he is certainly more immortal than any from /meat/. would you say the lord of the rings isn't a grounded world, or that it is missing one of those "keys" you described? i don't mean to be pushy, i am fine with the conclusion that we can't recover from sufficient brain damage, i just wanted to point out a few things i recognized here, is all. thank you kindly for your feedback, i'll bring it to /meat/ when our next thread is made, assuming i am awake at the time.

>>19416323
>/meat/ makes new thread
>instantly deleted for off-topic
Being a /meat/head is pain

>>19416549
ah, but it is a fitting kind of pain.

>>19416323
Why would it be rare for /meat/, though? If we go with the idea that chuubanite infusion is behind chuuba-related supernatural powers, then most countries will be making use of them to a similar degree. I'm also not sure if /meat/ is meant to be relatively primitive in terms of technology - it just develops in a direction that isn't as common due to /meat/'s own goal. At least, I haven't seen that being mentioned so far.

>>19416549
/meat/ is pain in more than one way

>>19416323
The lord of the rings is certainly not what i would call a "grounded world" and more specifically, it's magic system is much different, stronger, vaguer, Sauron's a fucking demon lord man, Gandalf comes back from the dead and shit. This is something that is unfitting for the rules of the world we're making. Having death defying stunts, even if they come back as vegetables is just something that can easily get out of control.
Having strong limits on just how much damage can be lived through would work on it, for example, if they cut the head off, then they should not be able to stick it back in and the guy lives, he should die, if the guy gets his torso blown through by a cannonball or musket fire, dude's dead no matter how elite he is.
The "key" i refer to is the status of death, it should always be final.
Ah dealing with magic systems is a pain. I wish i could structure my thoughts better instead of just rambling like this.

>>19416626
>it just develops in a direction that isn't as common due to /meat/'s own goal
that's a good point, but i figured a lot of that developement would be considered magical/magitec rather than purely technological. using chuubanite in much of what evens the playing field means we are relying on a finite resource with no known substitutes, that might not be possible to replicate to differentiate us from civilizations that have either perished, or adapted differently. this was why i suggested that /meat/'s rituals might be what produces more chuubanite, following the theory that chuubanite is the blood of the gods who we kill. this could put a different meaning to stagnation, and the overpopulation of the heavenly realm, and it would make that feeling of inevitability feel less pressing to me, if it matters to you what concerns i have. otherwise our civilization is adapting in ways that might not last very long.

>>19416897
have you read the books? it's pretty much one of the golden standards for grounded fantasy worlds. i assume in this context that grounded is the opposite of arbitrary in that clear rules are present. as i said, there are clear, definable rules behind Mai-chan's regeneration. likewise, i have said that due to how chuubanite works, it is impractical, if not impossible to achieve the same level of regeneration in /meat/ soldiers, they'll always be able to survive less in comparrison. knowing biology, and with the context of what i was suggesting above, if you merely cut the head off, it would be easy to put the head back on, and keep the head and body perfectly alive, but reattaching the spinal cords in any way that could maintain motor function would be far more difficult, and so there would be no point in even trying since the most likely result would be a functional head and a bunch of dead weight for a body. might as well be dead as far as /meat/ is concerned. the status of death is final for sauron, just as it is final for /meat/, but the conditions for death are different, as sauron is not truly dead until the ring is thrown into the volcanoe from whence it was forged, as that is the only place powerful enough to harm it. as for /meat/, cutting off the head means they'll likely be dead forever, destroying the body, or keeping it hidden while it decays guarantees they'll be dead. i think i understand what you are trying to say, there is a sanctity to the concept of death where, if you are victorious in killing someone, only to later find out that they somehow were able to survive, it feels like that victory was robbed from you. that is understandable. to be honest, the only real effect this would have beyond lore is that you kill someone, and then some time later there might be someone similar to the person you killed among the faceless masses you call your enemy, assuming you didn't remember to do a couple steps before figuring they were finally dead. you could get the same thing with sci-fi settings, as magic is pretty much just a misunderstood technology. cloning, mind-reuploading, decoys and timetravel, assuming you consider that sci-fi and not sci-fan. but from my perspective, if you have a clearly defined mechanism, it is less grounded to make an exception under arbitrary conditions than to find a reason in lore for why that exact same exception might apply. you might say "reattaching limbs is ok, but if the head is severed from the body that is final, even if the head is still warm when the process of reattaching it is started" that feels a bit like a cop out. my compromise is to say "if you cut the head off, you could reattach it, but if you can't reattach the spinal cord properly it's as good as dead" which comes to almost the exact same conclusion, but does it without the somewhat arbitrary exception. the exception is now grounded as part of the lore, the problem you have, though, is the implication that, theoretically, under the best conditions possible, you might possibly have an instance where someone who is believed to have been killed is suddenly found alive, if not fully well. the easy way to resolve this is, again, to say the exception just is, for whatever purpose, the case, but the exception could also be further justified through lore, but that implicit "maybe" will never go away, because the grounded, clearly defined mechanisms would theoretically allow it if not for all the conditions making it increasingly improbable. i only want canon to be maintained, i am trying to create a canonical solution that addresses your concerns while not jepardizing mine. lets work together to figure out a world-building solution to our world building problem. lol, you think what you have been doing is considered "rambling", yet i can't even remember half the stuff i wrote off the top of my head now that i'm done. clearly i am the most autistic person here.

>>19416323
>that sauron's ability to live so long as the ring of power
Technically the reason sauron can't die is because hes a fallen angel and as such his spirit is indestructible. His physically form is something he creates, which is why prior to certain events he was able to change his form almost at will. The destruction of the ring just completely crippled him, likely because he poured so much of himself into it

>>19418209
i thought him pouring so much of himself into it made it basically a physical manifestation of himself. is his crippled form capable of regaining any degree of power? that would put him more in line with the lovecraftian version of immortality, arguably the exact opposite of the ability i have been describing for /meat/. if he is crippled permanently, it at least has some connections to what i have been saying, only that there would be no reason to keep a /meat/ soldier alive in that condition.

>>19416897
>Gandalf comes back from the dead and shit.
True but most people who die stay dead outside of elves who get reincarnated in the undying lands. Gandalf only comes back because hes basically an angel and big g God goes "the Valar's plan to stop Sauron is fucked. Get back in there right now with less restrictions to your power." >>19418161 dude is right that its one of the most grounded and structured fantasy series. A lot of that comes down to the sheer amount of world building Tolkien did.
>>19418367
No the destruction of the ring crippled him to no long ever being a threat to middle earth again. He remains stuck in a purely spiritual form I believe and while his spirit is still one of malice, he'd never be able to return as a thread due to having lost so much native potency with the rings destruction. sorry for dragging you off topic since the only reason Sauron survives is because he's not inherently a physical being to begin with which means its not really a problem for /meat/ to need to consider to begin with

>>19418523
no, please, if i'm off on my lore, i welcome your corrections. might have been good to clarify that he was impotent despite still being alive, but i suppose you could argue that's what you meant by crippled, so no harm done. as i said, i've more of less already conceeded that the whole "recover from brain damage" thing will be functionally a nonthing, right now i'm just trying to create an in-lore explanation for why it is a non-thing that can satisfy everyone involved.

>>19418683
>might have been good to clarify that he was impotent despite still being alive,
Ya you're completely right especially since this is a discussion about regeneration. My bad

>>19418878
all good. no worries, friend.

What if it was Shadow of Mordor logic

>>19418999

What's up with kronies and milk?

>>19419116
Kronies are a people especially beloved by our goddess Kronii. She brings us gifts of milk straight from her teats. Her divinity flows in the milk and so it flows in the Kronies.

No the milk is not drugs that's propaganda and lies, probably from those separatists and heretics. It's divine. Try some.

>>19418683
I mean, couldn't the reasoning essentially be that the reattachment ritual takes long enough that brain activity would cease before they had a chance to complete it? So even if you put the head back on then it would be too late and you would just have a normal corpse. I assume limb regeneration doesn't work by just slapping it back on and being good to go, so that should be in-line with how the rest of the lore functions.

>>19419116
mommy milkers, big boobie bouncers, the bazoingas and maybe she did some stream that vaguely related to milk, idk im not necessarily a kronie myself.
t. has friends who abuse reddit slang

>>19419116
Kronies are insane and think their goddess gives them magical holy milk. Its just a fantasy/placebo and its their schizophrenia that gives them their strength

>>19419289
Why does it work for /meat/ and /kfp/, then, heretic? Checkmate.

>>19419352
>/meat/
schizophrenia
>/kfp/
I thought kfp was just interested in it so far

>>19419486
No way were my compatriots in /kfp/ drinking that divine milk for just sexual gratification, right?

>>19419521
Kronies.... Its alright, kfp are master manipulators

>>19419352
/meat/ is probably not the best counterargument when it comes to insanity...

>>19418683
Do we really need an explanation for that, though? I mean, apart from the fact that the brain is about the most sophisticated organ in a human body, and that it definitely stores many functionalities of our mortal mind. Any damage that would wreck a good chunk of the brain will logically means whatever was stored in that part of the brain is gone even if the physical structure is gone, and if said functions are vital, then the body won't recover from it due to losing said function.

>>19419206
I left that part ambiguous when writing the rentry at the beginning, but it's safe to assume it doesn't work by shoving a matching limb into the hole (probably something more for /zomg/ I reckon). I think it might be something more like transmuting ritually-prepared flesh into some kind of slurry that will be merged with the wounded, which will lead to the lost limbs eventually growing back, kind of like how some salamanders can regrow their tails.

>>19419621
>whatever was stored in that part of the brain is gone even if the physical structure is restored
maybe I need a brain regrowth too kek

>>19419206
this is where genetics and microbiology arguably play a role. the decaying process happens fairly fast, but not instant, even for braincells, if the head were to be put in some form of preservation system quickly from being cut off, it's entirely possible that it could be brought back to a controlled enviornment where they could reattach the head. the body itself can be kept alive without a head, this is most common with animals like snakes or chickens, who can sometimes be kept alive without a head for up to two years, but the basic idea of it relates to how many functions the brain is responcible for to keep the body alive. obviously humans have more demanding bodies, so it's not easy, but it is possible. furthermore, i am trying to make the difference between Mai-chan's blessing and Mai-chan's actual abilities one of degree, not function. maybe that is unnecessary, but i think it is more appropriate since it's an easily attainable option. the way that the brain developes is somewhat chaotic. many connections are formed, and then die in a wave of reconnectability until the neurons wire a path to their genetically predestined objective in few enough steps for everything to work, otherwise the neural cells starve to death and start over. this process typically reaches a kind of status quo after a certain stage of developement due to the resource-intensive nature of this process, but it continues to a degree indefinately throughout your life. we know Mai-chan's blessing requires a lot of callories to work, and that, as far as the doujin is concerned, she can regrow her brain and maintain perfect functionality (again, this wont be the case for /meat/, but a weakened form of this is what i am going for) it could be argued that an imperfect version of this developemental process is applied to the brain when undergoing recovery via Mai-chan's blessing. on a personal note, i reject the notion that any aspect of what you inherently are exists beyond the physical realm, so be they neural networks, or a sort of neuron-RNA interface where memories are stored genetically, the processes that creates a human's mind are physical in nature. Mai-chan's ability to regenerate can repair things even as extreme as that, therefore, Mai-chan's blessing, at the extremes beyond the extremes which we could never hope to attain, can do the same. the degree is strongly nerfed, it is guaranteed to be imperfect, but the process of brain developement allows for, if not the same structure, then a similar structure to be regained, potentially allowing for a partial recovery under the absolute best circumstances, and nothing less.

>>19419116
Chemical WMD

>>19398745
I'm only going off the singular scrap of lore that Watson has for this "flag" design which is more of a company banner than anything. So I might as well add another lore scrap for my oshi

Watson Industries LLC, est. [xxxxx], is well known, everyone should know the abridged history on a random plaque in god knows where. The boss who owns the title of great and cuter than usual: Ame. She's amazing, brought fires to humans or something, probably invented Vtubing as a concept, gave SOUL to humanity as a whole, which, as everyone you know knows, allows everyone to be happy from day to day. Then suddenly built Watson Industries. Perhaps it might be exaggerated, who knows. Flyers spread overhead in random nations spreading the word of Ame, even if that is violating the airspace of the neighbors. Eitherway, the one thing for certain is her giving her citizens the many departments for seeking a job. Aviation, logistics, security, human resources, pharmaceutical, assault, and on and on and on. You love it. Company gives you a job, the industry is allied with other nations nearby and has steady trade of certain types of technology, you get to eat your daily bread, listen to Ame on the radio, and then thank Ame you're not an expedition or occult studies member, sick fucking freaks.
Officer K has been eyeing you as of-
...
Officer K probably knows. It's fine. Eitherway, you know that's not his real name. He probably forgot it long ago, either by choice or because he never cared to give a shit about his birth name. Maybe he's just happy with being one of the many Ks. He's just like you. However, he probably doesn't care if you see yourself in him. He probably knows what you saw. Those ones that don't exist just yet. A sickly hue to the light they're covered in as they caught a lone defector crossing a outer checkpoint, bawling. A strained voice stating that they already knew about the plans years from now and history must be set on course. K keeps eyeing you. It's fine. The sun is out, the people are working, you are listening to Ame sing something off key, you got a new max PR at the company acclaimed Buffson's gym, and this sandwich is delicious.
You have all the time you need.

I also made a challenge coin I guess for a junior enlisted Watson military boot
https://files.catbox.moe/rxax4c.png

>>19419874
>genetics and microbiology
I think you might be overthinking it a bit too much desu. You don't really have to dive into neuron-RNA interface (which incidentally isn't a thing as far as I can tell, but I digress) to explain that losing a chunk of the brain will severely hamper cognitive and even vital function even if it's healed.
Overall, I think we can sum up what Mai's blessing and fleshgrafting combined can do as follow:
>Limb loss
healable in field hospital
>Minor head trauma (concussion and the like)
healable in homeland, the blessing might reduce chronic effects e.g. those commonly suffered by AFL players and boxers
>Cognitive function loss from brain damage (e.g. Rosemary Kennedy)
incurable, likely relegated to farm animal duty
>Vital function loss from brain damage (e.g. crushed brain)
dead

>>19421036
>a kind of neuron-RNA interface
we actually already know it's a thing, i don't know the proper name for it, but you can parse data from neural networks into a RNA form. last i heard, there was some contention about whether or not memories are stored as RNA sequences, or if they are neural networks, but my opinion on it is that long term memory is almost certainly not stored in neural networks due to how terribly inefficient that would be, so the next best thing seems to be RNA.
as for the conditions you've set, you are correct, but it is benefitial for world building and future discussions to hammer out exactly how it works. worldbuilding is, at it's core, overthinking a setting, so i encourage everyone to do this level of overthinking and then some for their own projects. the fact i was getting at was that no matter how you set it up, there is theoretically a way to revive our soldiers, it's just increasingly improbable, and unreasonable due to the costs of doing it.
>that implicit "maybe" will never go away, because the grounded, clearly defined mechanisms would theoretically allow it if not for all the conditions making it increasingly improbable.

>>19421305
>don't know the proper name for it
You might want to look into that, although it doesn't really matter in this case.
>it is benefitial for world building and future discussions to hammer out exactly how it works
Not really, no. It's important to define its limitation, but the actual mechanism is not really relevant, especially in a setting like this, where magic (in the form of chuubanite or other factors, such as that of worship) is an explicit force in play.
>there is theoretically a way to revive our soldiers
I disagree with that, unless you want to go out of the way to define what being alive means, which I don't see is really practical or beneficial to this thread.

>>19421522
the actual mechanisms is how you know it's limitations, and what it's capable of. otherwise, it's limitations and capabilities are arbitrary, and therefore not grounded. maybe it is sufficient to leave it at that, but it isn't good worldbuilding to leave these kinds of questions unanswered. those answers always lead to more questions, which can always be used to further build upon the world building, and how grounded the setting is. it's better to have a grounded setting than one that is arbitrary and loosely defined. that is the core of what world building is to me. we clearly have different philosophies going into this, i don't blame you for it, this kind of mindset is generally seen as annoying, i just enjoy the opportunity to live out my autistic hobbies online, is all.
>I disagree with that
the main thing i was getting at was that all you need to do is find a way to address each of the conditions that would make it improbable. we agree that the conclusion tends towards what you said, i want to be certain that you know that it is theoretically possible to deviate from it, even though it is extremely improbable, and would be very costly. i want to be certain that, despite you knowing that, you are satisfied with the conditions i have laid out. again, not saying we necessarily will do anything, either due to a lack of will, or a lack of opportunity, just that if there are any opertunities our current agreed upon setup leave open, they will continue to be left open, and you will be satisfied with that due to how improbable and costly it would be to even try. remember, my definition of Mai-chan's blessing is that it is merely a weakened version of Mai-chan's abilities, vastly inferrior in degree but ultimately identical in function, this is rather important to my interpretation of how it works for world building reasons, and so if i am going to continue to think about this subject, it will be from that perspective going forward, so maybe you might consider reading the doujin to know for certain what that means so that we can figure out a way to compromise on other possibilities you might find objectionable, too? i love it when other people can partake in the same mediums i enjoy. regardless, it has been very fun hearing your opinion on all of the stuff i have said so far, i am sorry if i have been annoying or overly pedantic for you, i genuinely do want to make it all fit with your standards, it just takes a lot of time and effort to make a properly grounded world with detailed mechanisms, especially when it's a community-based thing. if there's nothing more to say, you can just reply in the affirmative and we'll be done for now. i have been writing quite a bit for a while, and it's not like i don't have things to do.

>>19422816
>if there's nothing more to say, you can just reply in the affirmative and we'll be done for now.
Yeah, let's go with that.

>>19423023
k, thank you for your time then.

World lore update: /mion/ and duck just united as OKFAMS where /mogu+doog/ and /fbk/ remain independent states

>>19424038
Wow

>>19424038
>Tomboy and Hag union
just call it the Soccer Mom entente or something, its not OKFAMS if its only Mio and Subaru

on another note, I think since the malignant autism has finally died down here, it would be a good time to go out and begin probing other generals for reps.

>>19425793
Right. Let me organize the prompts. I forgot to add them to the OP

>>19425826
>>19425793
CURRENT PROMPTS
https://rentry.org/7nt3b

Actually, can we get a rolecall real quick so we know who does and doesn't currently have a rep?
Right now I feel certain in crossing off
>/Nasa/
>/Kronie/ (3 times over)
>/Who/
>/KFP/
>/35p/
>/Rose/
>/clg/
>/wg/
>/Nasfaq/
>/meat/
everyone else I've either forgotten, or currently doesn't have an active representative

>>19426529
/nasfaqg/ also has at least 3 posters here, possibly more.
t. nasfaqg

>>19425793
Time to send out the new messengers! Tally-ho!! Adventure awaits!!
Any writefriend want to write a story about this? /vtwbg/ HQ sends out its UN invitations or something

>>19426913
https://rentry.org/wznpr
Here is the old invitation. Would need editing though, and a new territory map to post with. The one in the OP rentry is outdated a little.

>>19402549
Bump... Onegai...

>>19398934
Because constant rrat/drama/generals threads where people only post "OMFG I TOTALLY <3 MY OSHI! I'D DIE WITHOUT THEM!!" in every variation you can think of and the same fucking artwork all the time is boring as shit and we'd rather do something still related to vtubing and yet completely different

>>19425793
I was gonna wait another half a day or so before making this post but, since you brought it up:
It's been 2 1/2 days since I posted >>19270556, asking nations to give their opinions on
>One delegate for each thread; Y/N
>Purely realistic or Fantasy?
>Non-human species: Y/N?
>Magitek-Chuubanite: Y/N?
>Era (definitive)
So far we have answers from /nasfaqg/(twice, >>19270872, >>19300378), /who/(>>19271077), /morig/(also twice, >>19271414, >>19272549), /kfp/(>>19271719) , /inf/(>>19271919), /ag/(>>19280882) and anonymous(>>19271591, you mention /meat/ but it doesn't sound like you're from there), as well as Sakuran's answers that I was planning to attach to the summarising post but will attach to this one instead.
Sakuran's answers:
>One delegate for each thread; Y/N
Y
>Purely realistic or Fantasy?
Low fanatsy
>Non-human species: Y/N?
Y
>Magitek-Chuubanite: Y/N?
Y (needs to be fleshed out)
>Era (definitive)
1800-1850
That is 8 out of the 90+ generals on the map, less that 10%. Do anons want to come to a conclusion now, with the votes we have, and then send envoys to threads to join and make lore with these parameters? Or send the envoys before closing the vote so other threads get a chance to voice their opinions? It's not like we decided on a deadline (*cough*) so it's up to us whether to wait or not.

>>19427400
Personally I'd finalize this now. It'd be more organized if future contributors worked on these guidelines ASAP.

t. /inf/ representative

It be funny that the /vtwbg/ UN building so far is only occupied by these guys >>19426529 all this time
Coming to an important meeting in the morning and it's the usual faces youve seen for the last month.
/kfp/ Diplomat: "Hey we need to talk about the /pcg/ claims in /wactor/ territory."
/nasfaqg/ Diplomat: "No can do. Neither parties are here."
/kfp/ Diplomat: "Then what do we do now?"
/meat/ Diplomat: "Lunch?"

>>19427479
>/inf/
This guy is not from /∞/.

>Through all recorded history, many other nations had looked to the Kingdom of Atlantis with either admiration or envy, as its status as the foremost leader of trade throughout all the known lands has been a fact since the written word was born. Many are the historians who would claim that the first alphabet was seared into seastone by ink by the formidables of /wah/, but it is more a fact that the first letter ever scribed then was "a".
>Some call it /ggg/, the serene sleeping juggernaut, whose inhabitants largely care not for the petty conflicts of the greater world, and only seek to enrich their own lives through peaceful trade, enforced by their flawless control over the world's sea trades.
>And yet all, even the citizens of this Kingdom, know full well that their nation has a dark side. For just as the seas run calm and peaceful, so too do tempests and storms wrack the coast. And the peace-loving goddess which all its citizens worship, also has a dark, bloody side, with ravenous appetite.
short but whatever might or might not come back, thank you for visiting /ggg/

>>19427759
Uooohhhh!!!! /ggg/ is here!!!

>>19427730
I'm on mobile and I'm lazy to copy paste.

>>19426529
/yeah/'s got a representative

>>19427726
>everyone tries not to think about /meat/ diplomat's home packed lunch
>everyone had to watch /∞/ diplomat fist fight two other kronies over territorial disputes that they all agreed on anyway

>>19427400
Forgot to mention, I'm gonna be busy with stuff for a while today so I won't be able to make the summary post until later, which is why I said I'd have waited another half a day.
>>19427726
Kek. Also "lunch?" coming from meat is sightly suspicious
>>19427759
Oi chotto matte yo, /ggg/. How do you feel about answering a short questionnaire? >>19427400

>>19427842
>everyone had to watch /∞/ diplomat fist fight two other kronies over territorial disputes that they all agreed on anyway
/∞/ just shot the head of the /vtwbg/ UN for corruption and then took their clock powered iron gunboats home to fight among themselves over futa.

>>19427842
>the /nasfaqg/ diplomats start betting on which kronie wins the fistfight

>>19427400
I'm >>19271591 and I'm from /meat/. The post was made in a hurry so it might've sounded weird. I would also add if we do need a definitive era even if we go with punk history (or not have that as an option at all) then I'm in favour of 1600-1700.

>>19427923
Let's not do this even as a joke, please. It was one kronie trying to emulate Gavrillo Princip who aimed for the UN's leader for perceived offenses to our great nation. The /∞/ diplomat tackled him and proceeded to fist fight him (both naked as is tradition) and the UN leader left of his own will.

>>19427989
If it was just one rogue element, you wouldn't see /∞/ get vilified like it is.

>>19427989
>Princip
Wrong Serb

>>19428176
It was one rogue element. He was just very persistent and hostile to other contributors and gave us all a bad name.

Please end this timeloop here. Thank you

>>19428210
>wrong serb
>posts a croat
nigga?

>>19428259
every balkan war criminal looks the same to me
on that topic, what's the Balkan of /vt/?
I want to see our own version of Albanian-Serbian-Bosnian shitshow

Call me the time police, cause it's time to end this timeloop before it begins

>>19428297
I am from ameland. I did ancestry dna test and learned i'm 80 percent chumbud. My whole world has changed. I tried to commit suicide but couldn't do it. Now i have to live like this.but after that i decide it is a uoohhist game. I suggest people dont do dna test it's lie bcs i am 100 percent investigator thnx.

>>19428426
Hearty fucking kek

>>19426529
I check in every day, but I haven't had much to say

>>19428623
We have prompts deadbeat
>>19425925

>>19428426
>steps into /suisei/
>https://youtu.be/wxF45JKTRWs starts playing

Where does Ayamefriend fit into all this

>>19398745
KFP Cultural influence: AKA how dirndls becomes cool
>While KFP is not typically known for its cultural output, there is something to now about the spread of KFP culture to places outside its borders.
>Most significantly the traditional Pölitid dress, the Dirndl
>While its not wholly known what the catalyst for this spread is, be it /KFP/ communities holding Oktoberfests in foreign lands during the Orc Schizo occupation of the fatherland, or by men and women finding Pölitid women pretty and wanting to replicate their charms, the first place the dirndl spread to was /Nene/
>While the women of Nene had previously donned oriental style dresses with cyan patterned shawls, a trend had began among the wealthier women of Nene to import, and buy dirndls off KFP traders, and even commission them to be custom made with more Nekko sensibilities by Pölitid tailors.
>This caused a sort of "Dirndl mania" spread through out Nekko society, to such an extent that even depictions of their goddess changed to reflect the changing culture: even today the Archwife Nene Momosuzu is depicted wearing a Dirndl.
>While it became nowhere near as prevalent as it had in /nene/, Dirndls traded across routes taken by /KFP/ merchants eventually reached Noel, where their warmth and comfort made them popular with women in the highland regions of the country, as well as their appeal to the men of the country: they had a percieved innocent, rural, and wholly comfortable and civilian charm to them, which drove the men of the country, largely employed in military natured work for the knights guild that runs the country, utterly wild.

Where will you be when /nasa/ deploys their artillery?
https://youtu.be/yRGgl9KT9rE

>>19428297
Probably all of HoloEN. In fact HoloEN is all of eastern europe. The near Homo-erotic love the Poland and Hungary have for each other is represented in the relationship between Kfp and Teammates. The deep seated hatred between Romania and Hungary is also represented by the constant "wars" KFP and Takos have.
I am as of yet unsure as to where council fits into this analogy
t.Eastern European

>>19429675
/nasa/ is Poland because they're bro tier bit keep getting erased off the map / bumped off the board.

I will be sleeping soon, so if anyone starts a timeloop or makes contributions for our lore, please ignore. Thank you.
t. Kronie lorefag

Bump

For the Sakuran volcano in the center, we think it's better of the mountain looks phallic, like an actual dick. With the frenum side facing north. The lava has a high level of sakura chuubanite which makes it white-pinkish

>>19431287
What??

>>19431287
uhh?

>>19429825
We don't have an official representative for lore in /∞/.
Disregard what this 'kronie' says.

/nasa/ should look into talking to /wah/ because Sana is best friends with Ina.

>>19429302
We have to find our weapons vault first.

>>19431287
To get that dick shaped volcano you need a lot of explosive gas. The taller the volcano the more gas it had during eruptions. If the volcano is active then you have to be careful about big eruptions where volcanic ash and gas covers the land.

I sort of got carried away with the Rosebuta species living in /rose/ and wrote a whole bunch on their reproductive/life cycle before anything else. Oops.

>>19433853
I would unironically read that

>>19433853
Go on you are not the only one who has been lost in writing. I've been writing a chuubanite proposal for 3 days now and... its gotten pretty long.

Linked from /tg/
What are you schizofags up to?

>>19433930
we worldbuilding

>>19433930
well, we haven't really solved most of our technology/magic issues, but it's going faster than it was before

>>19433930
world building.

>>19433853
>>19433914
Post em' (when you're done) I'm unironically looking forward to reading this.
I find this sort of shit super interesting

>>19434055
I'm probably going to get the proposal ready today. its over 4000 words long, so i will have to post it in pieces

>>19434146
>4000 words long
>on just the reproductive cycle

>>19434241
No, thats on chuubanite,

>>19433930
Aaahh! /tg/ senpai noticed us!

>>19433930
w-world building...

>>>/tg/83611082
Oh shit bros! We got noticed!

>>19434364
Ohhhh, that's a lot less worrying.

Okay! I think I did pretty alright. I sincerely apologize if anything comes off weird or just doesn't make much sense. This is my first real time working on stuff like this. Hopefully it's not too bad, enjoy! Seriously sorry if anything is sloppy or if I just posted too much, I'm a little paranoid and anxious about posting this but... Yeah.
"A Look At The Rosebud"
By Dr.
The Rosebuta (Rosa Scrofa), commonly referred to as a "Rosebud" or simply "Bud" as they may be called in these posts, is a species native to the land of /rose/. For most of their life they walk around with humanoid bodies that hold a calm pink color. Their heads are always chubby, pig-like faces with a growth resembling a rose above their left ear. Despite their animal-like look and intelligence, Rosebutas are technically classified as plants. Classification has been questioned in recent years, due to growing knowledge of their biology, but as of this writing they are not referred to as animals.
Rosebuds are born from giant flowers sprouting out of the ground. These flowers are planted by Rosebuds themselves after successful pollination. The plants sprout within three days of planting and create a single large flower after around one week. The flower doesn't blossom until the Rosebuta is ready to leave, which may take anywhere from one to six months. The Rosebuta tumbles out of the flower and eats the leftover plant for its first meal. Newborn Rosebutas are very small in size, measuring no more than two feet (61cm) in height.
Rosebutas require no parental guidance and survive very easily in their environment. Young Rosebutas have a flower on their head, henceforth referred to as their "rose", which acts as a natural deterrent. The stench emitted by the flower is foul enough to repel any predators. The young feed on any foliage near the ground, along with using their rose as supplementary energy via photosynthesis.
After a certain period, the Rosebuta will grow large enough to begin feeding on animals. The rose will change from emitting a foul odor to that of an aphrodisiac. The friendly look and smell of the Rosebuta will lure in creatures with a false sense of kindness. When close enough, the Rosebuta will snap the animal's neck and use it as food from there.
At this point, the Rosebuta will follow one of two paths. Rosebutas who prefer consuming the plant life around them will maintain a smaller size and a more feminine, though still male, appearance. These Rosebutas are typically 4'7" to 5'7" (140cm-170cm) in height and have much larger roses. A large rose is seen as valuable for breeding, the larger the better. These Rosebutas will be called Rosies from now on.
The other path is for Rosebutas who enjoy the meat of living creatures. These Rosebutas will practically explode in size and muscle mass. They will be far larger than their smaller companions, standing at 6'3" to 6'11" (190-210cm) in height. Unlike the more feminine appearance of their counterparts, these Rosebutas will be much wider and far more intimidating. Their rose will be much smaller and their stamen will be larger. While their rose won't be as effective for luring in prey, their enhanced physique allows them to chase and hunt down prey far easier. Some may even grow tusks, though these have no true purpose beyond decoration. These Rosebutas will be called Boars from now on.
Rosies and Boars act in unison. The Boars being useful for heavy lifting and being the powerhouse of the pair, while the Rosies act as the more intelligent of the two and provide support by taking advantage of their smarter minds. There are, of course, outliers with smarter Boars and more active Rosies, but overall this is how they function together.
Rosies have a mating season of their own during the Spring time. Their large roses will begin to emit a powerful aphrodisiac that spreads over a wide area, luring in Boars. These Boars will fight for dominance over the Rosy, though the largest stamen is typically the winner due to a higher attractiveness. Breeding is relatively simple. Without getting into too much detail, the Boar will use its stamen (Male genitalia hanging between the legs, heavily resembling a human's genitalia) to pollinate a Rosy's rose. The rose will close up after pollination, growing a single seed inside. When ready, the rose will open back up and the Rosy will find suitable soil to plant the seed. The seed will quickly grow into a large flower which sprouts out of the ground, then the cyle begins anew.
In the next post I will go over the modern Rosebuta and how modernization has affected their nature and society. While this was written with Rosebutas sounding like non-sentient beings, they truly do have a very fascinating modern culture and are nearly as advanced as humans. But, that's for next time.

>>19435198
The name got left out, I'm an idiot...

>>19435226
Cute dork
The audience reflect the streamer

Map of which holo is appearing in which prefectures from the holofes promotion thingy.
Thought it might be relevant

>>19435198
Ah yes, Dr., a leader in veetee biology

>>19435550
I meant it to be censored like an SCP article or something, I'm retarded I know...

>>19435198
Good read, very interesting.
I like the inclusion of the buff butas

So I have a proposal for /nasa/'s weapon vault. On one hand it does have guns and empty shells for artillery. On the other hand everything volatile is destroyed. Meaning if /nasa/ wants artillery then they're going to have to engineer Chuubanite. And we're about 50-100 years behind on Chuubanite research.

>>19431287
Wtf
>>19431642
>>19431832
Yeah, I'm just as confused as you are anons, not sure where this guy came from, there's not even any discussion regarding this in the Miko thread
>>19433381
That's why I chose a shield volcano, as they eject less gas and ash than composite volcanoes so they're less dangerous, though lava flows are more frequent.
>>19429825
>>19432031
It'd be great if kronies resolved this
>>19435198
I want inform that while scrofa in Greek does mean sow/female (wild)boar, it is most of used to mean "whore" or "prostitute", which I found slightly amusing. Interesting read, btw. Do continue to write lore and don't worry about the length, most people here will read through it, we've had loreposts span 3 full posts before
>>19435527
>Migo gets the Tokyo prefecture
Ikz

>>19436559
>It'd be great if kronies resolved this
Might take a bit, this schzio has moved to trying to kick out all map discussion from /∞/

>>19436559
>want inform
*want to inform you
>most of used
*most often used
This is your brain on dumbfuck juice

>>19436559
>spoiler
Oops, well I guess that's what I get for just nabbing part of the scientific name from a wikipedia article.

>>19435198
So, do they taste like pig? does the flower modify it's taste in any way? Are their brains inmune to kuru or something like that? It'd be funny if unlike human brains they had no chance of giving sickness, maybe the tusks would be highly valued like those of elephants, althought it would involve active warfare against an organized society, it's not like humans are not used to that (decisive Tang victory and all that). How fun it is to think about fictional food.

>>19437017
...I take it you're /meat/? I actually haven't talked to one of you before, but I think your works are pretty cool!
In terms of taste, I imagine it would be sort of like... Pseudo-meat, I suppose. There would be the taste of pork mingled in with that of an earthy taste, maybe like biting into a large plant stem. I don't think kuru would have any effect on them, at least nothing that would be transferable between the two species.

>>19435527
>ayame next to ina
This won't end well...

>>19436638
I should mention that the word is originally Latin, where it has the proper sow meaning (though if your species are all male you may consider changing that), it's just that it has taken a different meaning in Greek
>>19435198
Also, /rose/, keep in mind that according to the >>19402549 map, and the climate map in the OP, your land has a cold steppe/cold desert/polar tundra climate, so do try to incorporate that into the lore

>>19429675
>The near Homo-erotic love the Poland and Hungary have for each other is represented in the relationship between Kfp and Teammates
Fucking cheating teamates

>>19437454
Oh i'm not from /meat/, don't worry about it. :D

>>19437541
Good point! I'll figure something else out for the funny scientific name!
>cold steppe/cold desert/polar tundra climate
Oh that's... Really not good. Really, really not good... That's the worst possible climate...

Chuubanite proposal

I apologize for the massive post; I got a bit carried away.

>What is the goal of this proposal
To attempt to define chuubanite and the rules and physical laws on how chuubanite acts and how it can be used in magitech. I aim to make these limits and rules as simple as possible without allowing for obvious setting-breaking applications. I also do not want chuubanite to become too dominant for the setting. Chuubanite should be a useful resource with useful applications in certain situations, not a Deus ex machina that fixes every issue, not a magical swiss army knife that does anything and everything for the plot, and not the McGuffin the setting revolves around (too much).
To fuel the conversation surrounding the subject of chuubanite and the magi-physical laws of the setting, and hopefully, to give ideas for the thread to work with and inspire anons to come up with their own proposals, modifications to this proposal, and/or creative chuubanite applications based on this or any of the other proposals.
>Starting assumptions
1. Chuubanite Exists.
2. Chuubanite is a resource with qualities we in our world would consider supernatural.
3. These qualities are in some instances and on some level(s) tied to vtubers.
3. Chuubanite is a mineral, either a metal or a rock of some kind.
4. Chuubanite can exist in a solid state at room temperature. This solid state is a stable in the sense that it can be shaped without having to fear about destroying the chuubanite object or accidentally creating a massive explosion.
4.a. This particular solid state does not have to be the only solid state chuubanite can take. Unstable solid states may very well exist.
5. The setting is allowed to become a low-to-medium -magic fantasy.

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>1/11
just post a rentry man

>>19437766

>Proposed general laws part 1
1. Chuubanite based magic is predictable, consistent, and universal, as in, the same set of actions taken in a similar environment using a similar chuubanite object will always result in the same outcome, no matter who is doing the actions. An experiment done using chuubanite ought to be able to be replicated by other people if they are able to re-create the same set of conditions. No faction should have magic that is completely exclusive to them.
1.a. In a sense, chuubanite and chuubanite based magic obeys an extended set of the laws of physics. These laws are universal and cannot be broken under any circumstance. These laws and chuubanite interactions may be able to be modeled using mathematics, but that is something I will not go into in this proposal outside of a few mentions, largely because I do not want to spend time on deriving equations for a system that has not yet been approved.
1.b. This law is a prerequisite for chuubanite alchemy. For there to be a field of “science” that studies a certain subject, that subject has to be governed by some set of rules, probabilistic or absolute ones, and there has to be a way for those studying the subject to come up with models for predicting the behavior of-, and interactions concerning, the subject.
1.c. This is also done in order to curb chuunism. Instead of ”only MY people can do this magic”, we’d have ”This exact type of magic is a secret known only to the top scholars/wisest masters of my faction (but an outsider could still learn the magic through cooperation with the faction, espionage, or independent discovery.)”
1.c.a. Each type of chuubanite can and should have unique magical properties, but these properties should all be accessible to anyone who acquires a piece of that particular form of chuubanite, as long as they know how to activate the properties.
2. Chuubanite interactions follow the laws of physics as we know them, and in case of there being exceptions, these exceptions ought to be well defined and understood before they are canonized.
2.a. This is done in order to prevent cheeky applications of chuubanite from fucking up the setting through breaking of important laws of physics. No energy may be created or destroyed, speed of light may not be exceeded, perpetual motion machines cannot be created, and (total) entropy (in the universe) cannot be lowered through application or use of chuubanite magic.
2.a.a. Things that are at the moment seemingly impossible but do not technically break laws of physics should be fine though. Folding of space and forming of wormholes (portals) should not be impossible in my opinion, but I definitely would not want this sort of magic to be common or widely used at all. If portals are to be a thing, I think they should be a very rare natural phenomenon, an almost miraculous occurrence, not anything a mortal can open on a whim. This is for the obvious reason that easily useable portal tech or magic would immediately break the setting by making traveling trivial, and by extension, making geographical distance and geographical barriers (any form of geography really) completely irrelevant FOR ANY purpose, including resource and city placement. This would quickly turn the world very boring.

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>>19437779
I figured its easier to reply to specific points of the proposal this way.

>>19437834

>Proposed general laws part 2
3. Chuubanite deteriorates over time if left without proper care. This deterioration can be either permanent or reversible. If latter, the act of restoring chuubanite should not be a task that can be done easily and/or cheaply.
3.a. This deterioration can take on may forms. My personal proposal is that chuubanite passively radiates energy into its surroundings in the form of heat, light, and some sort of magical energy. The rate at which this radiation occurs is proportional to the surface area of the chuubanite object. As chuubanite radiates, it slowly loses mass (this loss of mass could be noticeable, or it could follow E = mc^2 in which case it would not be noticeable to anyone without access to very sensitive measuring instruments) until at some point the chuubanite has lost its available energy and it becomes what is essentially an inert rock.
3.a.a. There could be ways to slow down the rate at which a chuubanite object radiates away its energy. More on this later.
3.a.b. There should be no way to increase the rate of radiation outside of increasing the surface area of the object or the very specific (and limited) methods detailed in “chuubanite magic” section. This is so that chuubanite cannot be used in the making of nuclear weapons or their equivalent.
4. Chuubanite should not become the optimal solution to everything. Normal technology should be able to compete with chuubanite magic to certain extent, and in some cases, it should be able to outperform chuubanite magic. For example, in the case of using chuubanite as a propellant in guns, gunpowder would be just as, if not more, effective while also being cheaper. In the case of using chuubanite to power machinery, conventional power sources such as waterwheels and coal have the advantage of, again, being cheaper, but also not deteriorating over time like chuubanite does.
4.a. If chuubanite outperforms conventional technology in every, or most, applications, then conventional technology becomes useless, and the setting becomes a high magic fantasy, as now chuubanite ought to be used everywhere and in everything. This could be avoided by making chuubanite exceedingly rare though. In that case, chuubanite would become a sort of McGuffin or a too central of an element to the world in my opinion, since now everyone should be obsessively looking for even the smallest of shards of the stuff.

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>>19437873

>Types of chuubanite
Chuubanite can take on many forms, but the form of chuubanite you would mine from the ground is a relatively harmless and a stable one. Some anons have suggested that the raw chuubanite ore is unstable, while the refined forms are more stable. I think that an opposite idea would be better, where the raw chuubanite is safe to handle, but the refined forms are either dangerous or unstable by themselves, or the process to make them is a very dangerous or expensive. This is to help level the playing field between the more technologically advanced societies and more primitive ones. An advanced society would likely be able to turn an unstable raw chuubanite into useful refined goods far easier than a primitive civilization could. This would effectively lock primitive societies completely out of any chuubanite magic or technology since these societies would not be able to plausible handle raw chuubanite. So instead, I propose that the raw basic form of chuubanite is a stable, and the process of refining raw chuubanite into more advanced forms is dangerous with a lot of risks. From a balance perspective this would make sense: Chuubanite is useful to anyone, but those willing to take additional risks are rewarded with more powerful and useful forms of chuubanite. What these forms are should be up for discussion, but in general I think a more powerful form would have to mean a more costly and dangerous refining process.

As for the raw chuubanite, it would naturally come in forms as various as the chuubas themselves. There could additionally be a neutral type, a form of chuubanite that does not have an affinity towards any chuuba. This form of chuubanite could still have some of the basic magical properties that are discussed later on in this text, just no chuuba-related magics.

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>>19437613
I swear to god every time I think we're finished meddling with the map another thing arises.

would it be possible to give rose their own peninsula, or meddle with the map in a way that puts them in a more appropriate rose growing location? Having the rose country be in the one place where it would be basically impossible to grow roses just seems silly

>>19437779
Actually, you are right, Ill just post a link to a pdf

>>19437920
I mean, we could exchange the rose and lazulight general's, seeing as rose is here and lazulight isn't, though I know next to nothing about niji generals' cultures nor relations to each other so I'm not sure about any objections. This would, however, put rose in a Mediterranean/humid continental climate that would serve them well
I'd also advocate for the exchange of /fbk/ and /mion/ up north, as Fubuki at least interacts with the Stars in some fashion, and is an Arctic fox

>>19437766
>>19438026
Alright
Chuubanite proposal has been made into a rentry

Thanks >>19437779 for suggesting this, it actually looks a lot better this way

https://rentry.org/buk5e

>>19438382
What climate does nijikr experience?

>>19438382
That would be the ideal climate for them. Although in my opinion it would only lead to more issue down the line when we eventually DO get a rep for lazulight. Maybe have Rose be take up the land in the north occupied by Ahoy and split their old land up between /yeah/, /haha/ and ID.

Here are my proposed borders. Of course /Rose/ gets the final say in the matter, and we'll need assistance from who ever made the original map, or (god forbid) create a new border map

>>19438589
Okay, that's really nice, but can I snort chuubanite powder mixed with psylocybin to get visions about future state of the market?

>>19438824
i dont know, I just tried to lay out some ideas that could be used as starting points in building up the chuubanite system. Maybe some certain chuuba's chuubanite made into a powder and then snorted could give you this ability, who knows.

>>19438589
I don't really want magic in the setting, but I'll still try to place my thoughts on it when i get the chance, I'll read this later.

>>19438382
Lazulight's land would be a lot better for us in terms of climate compared to a literal frozen waste. I don't know if they'd mind too much, but to be honest I don't think they really care what happens outside of their thread anyways.
>>19438807
I know we're just a split, but having such little land in comparison to most of the other nations would kind of suck...

>>19439059
I understand. It also breaks the trend of all the EN splits having borders with the NijiEN Global. Do these borders work better?

>>19438807
That would shrink both ahoy's and Rose's area while enlarging yeah, haha and ID and, frankly, I don't see the reason to do that.
My counter proposal is picrel, though lazulight's and Rose's positions are supposed to be exchanged.
Haha gains a lake and in return currect lazulight gains a river, current rose gets some humid continental land from NijiEN and NijiEN gets some land back from lazulight

>>19438627
The colours on the climate map are a bit iffy, but I think humid continental to the North and subarctic continental to the south.

>>19439644
Thanks, I was thinking of that area for /rose/ but I guess it still isn't a good location for roses

>>19439796
roses definitely do grow in both of those biomes

>>19438589
great proposal. would you say it works well with mine, seeing as how you didn’t want to explain how it works, or how more of it could be produced?>>19412907

>>19439607
that still doesn't fix the fundamental issue I was dressing by changing the borders in the way I did, that being that simply switching /Rose/ and /Lazulight/ will pose far more issues down the road when we eventually get a Lazu rep. Lazu has a tropical mermaid, and a forest fairy, so ideally they would be somewhere with tropical rainforest. Elira isn't so region specific since there's sky everywhere. Putting Lazu in a place where there's no forest, and where the water is the furthest thing from tropical, will just dump the issue /Rose/ is having now on who ever the future rep of Lazuis.

>>19439495
We still lose a lot of land in comparison to our old territory, but... I don't want to cause too much of a fuss, so if that's the best way to go about it I'll take it.
>>19439607
I'm not a big fan of this one, most of our land would still be unusable by us. I guess I could make it work by having the Rosebutas create giant greenhouses or something, but that's a long shot as I don't know how we'd do that with the current level of technology. Could be more possible with chuubanite, but that stuff is still a WIP from what I see.

>>19440204
I'm not any of those anons but how about swapping with nijikr? >>19439831 said roses can grow there but I'm not too familiar with the kr's lore...

>>19440354
I would be okay with that! I actually like the idea of living on a peninsula. Pretty beaches and plenty of humidity sounds like a nice time.

Can't find this shit because of OP

>>19437766
>>19438589
Can we call it something less gay than "Chuubanite"?
Some things that pop into my head:
>Holonium
>Kinzunaite
>Element Vt
>Streamer cores

>>19442639
>Streamer cores
That sounds like something that's used to power a giant mecha.

>>19442639
Kizunaite sound both better and funnier.

(finally got net)
>>19440122
Yeah that's a deal breaker then. Its why I was asking about culture (lore) of Niji generals.
>>19440204
Rosebudchama, I was suggesting you get the lazulight (green) area while they got yours (pink)... I just didn't bother changing the names
>>19440354
>>19440534
This might be our best bet, though I don't know much about nijikr. This reminds me, do the nijikr and nijiid generals still exist? Didn't the actual branches get merged with the main one?

>>19442639
McGuffinium

>>19442639
>>Holonium
>>Kinzunaite
They're to specific, I feel, since they're supposed to represent vt as a whole. Though one could argue it should be named after kizuna ai since she was the biggest oldest Vtuber for a while.
>>Streamer cores
That can be a technology later one, doesn't strike me as an element name
>>Element Vt
This, might work. Vitium/Vitubium with elemental symbol Vt

>>19443685
Something named after Kizuna just feels right

>>19443685
Vitubium (Vt) sounds great. Vitium could draw associations with vitae, aka. life in latin, and no one who uses this board has one.

Who the hell forgot the subject line...

>>19398745
Anyways, I've finished writing up our infantry and cavalry details, have the Rentry. It includes notes on how the regional armies (tagmata) are organized, the proportion of troops within each, how non-standardized units might be raised, and how each is often dressed. I may edit this later with the artillery, but probably not for a whle. DO NOT INCLUDE THIS POST'S TEXT IN THE LORE ARCHIVE, JUST ADD THE RENTRY LINK PLEASE. https://rentry.org/qnyv7

>>19443737
i say this is best. cool name with an interesting double meaning.

>>19443753
Oh nice, looks like a heavy cavalry army, this is probably the most detail, however, it does seem to integrate 1860's technology, particularly in the repeating carbines, I'd recommend holding off on anything from the 19th century and beyond until the base tech level of the world is decided.

>>19443551
Oh sorry about that. I'm pretty stupid sometimes so I don't always pick up on stuff that easy.
I think the NijiKR and ID threads are still around, the merge hasn't happened just yet. I don't think we have any of them here though, so it might not be that big of an issue if we do swap places. Less of an issue than switching with Lazulight, at least.

>>19443982
I've been pushing for, specifically 1652 - 1877. It gives me wiggle room to put in things like Spencers, Longbows, brigandine, and make it all make sense. Why?

In 1652, the Russians began sending expeditions via the Cossack hordes to seize the Amur Valley and take it from the Qing. In response, the Qing depopulated the region moving the people further south, digging trenches, building shipyards, and massing troops at Nigguta. It was the gunpowder war in East Asia AFAIK, since the Koreans sent several hundred musketeers (at the time, they were phasing out archery and experimenting with repeater firearms), the Chinese were copying Dutch muskets and French artillery, and the Cossacks were, well, actual Europeans with state backing. So we get the early gunpowder age here.

1877 is the year immediately after Custer got whipped at Little Big Horn, and people began actively improving early machine gun technology. Not sure if we'd be using Gatling or Agar Guns proper, but we definitely have self-contained brass cartridges for use in something like the 1847 J.R. Nichols gun. Maybe a faster firing Puckle Gun. Not sure.

>>19443753
Seconding this. >>19443982 The kronies were getting shit for trying to go to far ahead in the timeline so it'd be unfair to just say go ahead in this case. Especially since your general does have clear military ambitions

>>19445113
>>19445114
see my reply, I think everybody should just try to hover around late 1700s to mid 1800s. I specifically wanted to have a timeframe where close combat weapons and early modern firearms were operating together.

>>19445188
Oh, also, yeah, I'd be okay with the kronies getting like 1950s tech. Balance them out socially in other ways.

>>19445227
>1950s
ill assume thats a typo

>>19445227
>I'd be okay with the kronies getting like 1950s tech.
oh god I'm not ready for a new timeloop about this

>>19445227
>1950s
It begins (again).

>>19445273
>>19445297
I mean...I gathered that the basic concept for the kronies was a shut-in island nation of idiot savants who built a bunch of hyper-advanced shit...and never use it because they're too afraid of ever going outside their island

I propose that Rosebuds gain access to 2050s tech, but they don't know what it is so their first reaction is to destroy it all.

>>19445362
Id say no on the basis of that being jarring to the point of ruining the setting

>>19445401
Thats fucking cute.
>>19445362
Thats a part of it but mostly they just wanted to be a steampunk nation I believe, Thats already caused he timeline to jump up 200-300 years

>>19445362
The whole reason the setting's average was moved up and up, again and again is solely due to /infinity/ staunchly desiring to be 100 years ahead of everyone else, if not more.

At this point, I'd just declare that my thread has a technology of yours + 20 years into the future and be done with it, watching as it deliciously escalates into 2400's tech.

>>19398745
>>19443737
As a pilgrim of my goddess from the west, I would suggest that this Vitubium (Vt) be prism shaped.

>>19426529
Since nobody else has interest I guess I'm the Kanataso guy.
Just boredom lurking. Not interested in writing yet.
Day 17 of her covid updates.
Thread in bunker lockdown.
The faith is the only thing keeping us alive.
Kson is the eternal auld ally.

>>19426529
There is about two deadbeats here as well

I know /nasa/ has future tech. However the problem with future tech is that it relies in infrastructure already being built. /nasa/ doesn't have that infrastructure anymore due to the crash and having no contact with their space network. The powered tools /nasa/ has are hand tools like push tillers and drills. Things that make things a little easier but still take physical work.

So I do have a question about Chuubanite in the proposal. Is the "ore" is stable because the Chuubanite already "bonded" with impurities to make it stable? When Chuubanite is raw and impure it becomes a stable. When more refined the Chuubanite looks to bond with other matter. So purer forms are unstable. I'm wondering if it would be possible to create either rocket fuel with a liquid/gas formula or a "gravity field" that adds or reduces the gravity of the area. The gravity field would ease /nasa/'s burden of transporting heavy objects within the station itself.

I propose light Arcanium rules on top of whatever chuubanite / Vitubium rules we go with. This means the more advanced your technology, the less access to magic you have (however magic wouldn't cause tech to go haywire with it's mere presence). This further balances things so that the civs that choose to remain a little primitive have more fantastical elements

>>19445114
Kronies were being stopped since they were going to be too far ahead, but if we're bumping everyone up like 50-100 years it becomes less of a problem
>>19445227
>>19445462
The thing is, I'm not sure if the kronies want to specifically be ahead by a century, or they just want steampunk. I did ask before, but I don't remember if I got an answer.
If they just want steampunk, they can be set at like ~1880, and if they want the rest of the world not to have steam (so the fact they have steam becomes one of their identifying traits), we can consider setting the era to 1830 or so. Then any imbalances can be equalised through Chuubanite/Vitubium.

It might be too late for the thread but I do have proposal for gravity machines. They're installed in rotating sections of the station. So nothing outside the station gets their gravity changed. The idea is that objects below a certain mass will have near Zero-G maneuverability. This means if you're inside the station then its like floating in space. I was also thinking about making a sport like Space Rugby where its like rugby but in space. Blitzball from Final Fantasy X is similar but underwater.

Where is the /pyon/ representative, I wonder what they have for trade.

Making the new thread before work: >>19450291