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>> No.19409761
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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*

>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.19409818 [DELETED] 

TALLY OF THE DAY

>38,974: Botan (Hololive)
>24,724: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>23,292: Miko (Hololive)
>22,861: Gilzaren III (Nijisanji)
>21,844: Fubuki (Hololive)
>21,500: Pekora (Hololive)
>21,196: Suisei (Hololive)
>18,401: Gura (Hololive)
>18,170: Koyori (Hololive)
>17,209: Korone (Hololive)
>16,699: Shu (Nijisanji)
>15,541: Patra (774 Inc.)
>15,275: Korone (Hololive)
>14,887: Noel (Hololive)
>13,772: Lamy (Hololive)
>13,637: Fushimi Gaku (Nijisanji)
>13,323: Nene (Hololive)
>13,167: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>11,312: Lize (Nijisanji)
>11,245: Gatchman (Indie)
>11,171: Okayu (Hololive)
>11,109: Vox (Nijisanji)
>11,032: Ina (Hololive)
>10,587: Kronii (Hololive)
>10,371: Furen (Nijisanji)
>10,349: Iroha (Hololive)
>10,092: Mythia (Indie)

>> No.19409860

>>19409731
WOAH MAMA, HUMINA HUMINA HUMINA, SHEEEEEEESH

>> No.19409927
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19409927

YESTERDAY'S TALLY

>38,974: Botan (Hololive)
>24,724: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>23,292: Miko (Hololive)
>22,861: Gilzaren III (Nijisanji)
>21,844: Fubuki (Hololive)
>21,500: Pekora (Hololive)
>21,196: Suisei (Hololive)
>18,401: Gura (Hololive)
>18,170: Koyori (Hololive)
>17,209: Korone (Hololive)
>16,699: Shu (Nijisanji)
>15,541: Patra (774 Inc.)
>15,275: Korone (Hololive)
>14,887: Noel (Hololive)
>13,772: Lamy (Hololive)
>13,637: Fushimi Gaku (Nijisanji)
>13,323: Nene (Hololive)
>13,167: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>11,312: Lize (Nijisanji)
>11,245: Gatchman (Indie)
>11,171: Okayu (Hololive)
>11,109: Vox (Nijisanji)
>11,032: Ina (Hololive)
>10,587: Kronii (Hololive)
>10,371: Furen (Nijisanji)
>10,349: Iroha (Hololive)
>10,092: Mythia (Indie)

>> No.19409960

>>19409731
Look at those numbers

>> No.19409972

7

>> No.19410055
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>FEBRUARY 2022 GOLD
1) Aqua (Hololive) - 33,951 - Apex Solo Masters climb
2) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 36,581 - Apex VCC w/ Daruma
3) Marine (Hololive) - 56,541 - Gartic Collab
4) Aqua (Hololive) - 51,799 - Apex Solo Masters climb (Ascended Arc)
5) Subaru (Hololive) - 22,620 - Free talk
6) Hoshikawa (Nijisanji) - 35,769 - Apex Gacha
7) Flare (Hololive) - 32,609 - Mario party collab
8) Aqua (Hololive) - 62,187 - Apex Gacha
9) Ayame (Hololive) - 29,857 - Return Karaoke
10) Toya (Nijisanji) - 41,275 - Return Zatsu
11) Aqua (Hololive) - 47,997 - Clubhouse 51 Totsu
12) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 48,836 - Valorant CR Cup
13) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 55,920 - Valorant CR Cup
14) Choco (Hololive) - 64,215 - Birthday Live
15) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 33,655 - Apex
16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 39,182 - Apex
17) Aki (Hololive) - 56,546 - Birthday
18) Towa (Hololive) - 25,019 - Clubhouse 51 feat. Chloe
19) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 51,223 - 500k celebration totsu
20) Flare (Hololive) - 68,566 - New 3D model
21) Gura (Hololive) - 32,992 - Unarchived Karaoke
22) Okayu (Hololive) - 90,647 - Birthday 3D Live
23) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,787 - Vampire Survivors
24) Pekora (Hololive) - 95,059 (157,990 *) - 3rd gen statement on Rushia firing
25) Choco (Hololive) - 34,057 - ChocoSuba reverse totsu
26) Kizuna AI (Kizuna AI Inc.) - 131,327 - Kizuna AI Last Live
27) Chronoir (Nijisanji) - 140,954 - Chronoir Winter 3D Live
28) Toya (Nijisanji) - 35,684 - Toya
* waiting room number, doesn't get on the tally

Per company
>17x: Hololive
>10x: Nijisanji
>1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

Per channel
>5x: Kuzuha
>4x: Aqua
>2x: Flare
>2x: Pekora
>2x: Choco
>2x: Toya
>1x: Okayu, Chronoir, Kizuna AI, Ayame, Marine, Towa, Aki, Subaru, Fuwa, Gura, Hoshikawa

>> No.19410088

>>19409927
why the fuck did Botan get the biggest boost here? That's Birthday Live numbers for her

>> No.19410121

don't try posting anyone that isn't hololive in this thread. This is the hololive circlejerk thread. Numberfagging is the only reason anyone watches hololive anyway

>> No.19410204

Vampire survivor gets another one past 10k.

>> No.19410289
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Yeserday's superchats

>> No.19410463

>>19410289
>kuroi still on top
sausagega

>> No.19410539
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Playboard February Top 300 SC. NijiEN finally topped NijiJP, *only within the top 300, lots of NijiJPs are not counted.

>> No.19410611

>14 Nijisanji EN streams till now and only 1 of them with a 5K+ peak

Holy shit

>> No.19410628

>>19410539
Kuzuha fell hard. I think the overlaps with EN males killed his SC income.

>> No.19410654

>>19410121
Seethe 2view

You'll always forever be a 2view

>> No.19410723

I liked the other OP better

>> No.19410745

>>19410088
Botan was SMART
>She pre-unlocked a bunch of things so she could actually get any of the evolved weapons
>Unlocked a bunch of different characters already
That cuts down on the 'ramp-up' time and also allowed her to pick Hyper Mode (faster enemies etc) which is more interesting to watch too. Compare that to IRyS or Fauna, who pretty much had to start from scratch to unlock all the weapons and stuff, and the first few runs are basically a wash as it's highly unlikely you clear on your first run due to missing the ability to pickup a bunch of different passives + weapons.

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>>19410539
>tfw Polka, Laplus and Suisei made less than me last month after removing cover's and susan's cut
What kinda world is this

>> No.19410803

>>19410121
You're free to post a non-holo if they have either interesting numbers or big numbers, otherwise it'll just get ignored.
Exception: ES sub-count spam nonsense.

>> No.19410805

>>>19410403
That was always going to be the problem with the new wave. Especially if the new wave doesn't try to pander to fujos like Luxiem spent their whole time doing.

>> No.19410826
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19410826

NijiEN Debut Numbers

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First there streams for comparison

>> No.19410968

>>19410759
>Laplus has upwards 12k+ members based on her own words when she got demontized, "I have about double the members that you guys think I have (Hololyzer had logged she had at least 7k+ from opening membership streams + others)
>Polka moved a fuckton of merch in her b-day, numbers that have been posted to /#/
>Suisei also has a lot of members, had a super successful sololive and has one of the best selling albums for a vtuber (AND HAS THE BONUS OF NOT BEING SIGNED TO A LABEL SO SHE REAPS THE LION'S SHARE OF IT).
Unless you make more than $30k a month, they easily lap you several times in income per month.

>> No.19410990
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>$2100 budget marketing move to generate lots of buzz and fanart
Will it work?

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>>19410121

>> No.19411033
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>> No.19411045

>>19410990
eh, could work. Better than nothing at least.

>> No.19411091

>>19410968
Does La+ have more members yhan Gura?

>> No.19411149

>>19410759
Are you retarded?

>> No.19411153

Which branch flopped the most and why is it Noctyx?

>> No.19411165

>>19410990
Who is she and why does she have the money for this? Is this a Korean corpo?

>> No.19411175

>>19410990
How much money does this girl have? She even has reddit ads.

>> No.19411212

>>19411153
>Which branch flopped the most and why is it Council?
ftfy

>> No.19411252

>>19410826
Wow Noctyx is the most successful wave
Niji's CEO should push more waves

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>>19410121

>> No.19411259

>>19411153
All NijiEN females other than Nina

>> No.19411261

>>19410990
They'll have 2 in-studio artists crank out 4-5 pieces of art so they'll only pay like ~$500.

>> No.19411276

>>19410826
>there was more hype for Petra than any other member of the first 3 gens
That's pretty rich.
>>19411153
>flopped
>the branch has existed for 3 days

>> No.19411293

>>19411091
Unlikely, but she did get a lot of members, likey in part due to not reading SCs (and thus some of her gachis may have felt more compelled to pick up a membership).

>> No.19411306

>>19411033
non jp deficit

>> No.19411321

>>19411153
>>19411212
>Noctyx vs Council
I kinda want to see who wins this battle this month

>> No.19411340

>>19410968
If Laplus got 7k+ observed number and 12k+ real number. What would happen to Myth numbers in that case?
Gura 40k+
Ina and Ame 20k+
Mori and Kiara 15k+
Something like this?

>> No.19411372

>>19411212
Retardchama...your math...
Council has 5 times more CCV than Noctyx

>> No.19411390

>>19410990
Isn't this the one that ran ads on youtube that specifically namedropped Mel because they have the same mama?

>> No.19411427
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>>19410121
Seethe more. I love it!!

>> No.19411461

>>19411372
Doesn't change the fact council flopped. Not hard to see their inflated subs don't reflect ccv unlike Noctyx

>> No.19411462

>>19411276
The branch existed for three days and it already is struggling to break 5k, that's a flop

>> No.19411473

>>19411153
Because male ENctubers are not rare anymore.
No more "first time" buff

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>>19411165
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCA4jJY5PrTfIFJIcbI_NhQ

>> No.19411545

>>19411493
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJonqbnk9fo

>> No.19411568

>>19411461
>>19411212
see >>19410948

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>>19411473
that's part of it, but their designs sure didn't do them any favours

>> No.19411676

Lauren's nipple torture porn is #2 trending on Japanese twitter.

>> No.19411679

>>19411621
not pandering isn't helping either

>> No.19411688

>>19411340
It's impossible to say unless one of them goes and says anything about their member numbers.
We know for a fact that not every member will like, watch or comment on member's only content. It's also true that people stop memberships so some do lapse over time.
The only thing we can have as a floor would be 'number of unique members commenting' in a month or 'number of votes in a poll in a month', and even those only catch a part of the numbers.

>> No.19411803

>>19411676
they turned it into a big deal

>> No.19411858
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19411858

>>19411153
>>19411462
>Ame has 15x as many subs, 30x as the lowest member
>6k average so far in 2022

>> No.19411859

>>19411803
Nice to know that the Japanese aren't only after Holos for causing a nothingburger.

I still can't believe Marine and Miko had to apologize for joking about putting BL books under the fridge

>> No.19411899

>>19411858
NIJICOPE LIST
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>percentages
>ratio
>tournaments don't count
>fortune telling
>volume
>averages
>total CCV during primetime
>trailers are ads
>Google trends
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>stop picking on midgets! fight someone your own size!
>pit Vshojo against HoloEN when you're losing
>pit HoloEN against HoloJP when you're losing
>pit former Holo against HoloJP when you're losing
>Holobubble is bursting
>foreign buff/global audience bad, muh local Nips good
>YouTube Japan trends
>Apex will only get more popular from now on!
>flexible creative freedom
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate
>Cover uses bots
>Hal is honorary Niji
>Kson is honorary Niji
>Ui is honorary Niji
>Most vtubers are Nijisanji like and Nijisanji is part of greater vtuber community
>Nijisanji fans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement
>Sponsorships are retarded
>Hololive's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab
>Koshien is not an event
>Nijisanji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market
>pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count
>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side
>Hololive invented unicorns
>watchalongs are POVs
>Nijisanji isn't a corporation, it's a family
>each Twitch viewer is equivalent to about 1.5 Youtube viewers because Selen flopped her first Twitch stream and Selen never flops
>by promoting the main channel they create more general Nijisanji fans which will then trickle down to the smaller livers down the line
>subs to growth ratio
>subs to SC ratio
>*insert delusion about Selen here*
>VOD views don't count
>everything that brings a big audience is a special event
>Niji is mainstream in JP, which is more important than Hololive's international dominance
>Holo's main channel kneels to Niji main channel
>gen 3 should be left alone so Nijis can be properly compared to Holos
>Square Enix doesn't count
>combined peak CCV
>quality numbers
>dead cat bounce
>Holo merch sells out quick only because of scalpers
>Hololive is only popular because of chink clippers
>68% of the top 50 vtubers is bad
>Rightful sovereignty
>Ichikara has morals
>bug in the algorithm
>DLC is a gimmick
>Nijisanji has a better following than Hololive in the west
>There are no nijifans here, only falseflaggers trying to make Nijifans look bad
>Views don't matter
>only the west speaks english
>outfit reveals don't count
>look at the Twitter interaction
>Fake numbers
>R-r-relays don't count because I say so
>Pokemon doesn't count
>20 hololive merchs
>We're losing? Better start telling blatant lies
>Luxiem is five Mystas
>Gura didn't go viral
>less Money is good thing
>The numbers do not reflect the quality of the content
>NijiEN chat interaction is actually soulful
>Gacha rolling streams shouldn't count for medals
>on a per event basis
>Leaving SCs on is SC begging
>nijisanji shilling makes games like Genshin successful in Japan
>Nijisanji keeps failing but that's okay because they are rich

>> No.19411912

>>19411621
If they're cracked like s1mple/aceu on fps games then I don't mind the design. That doesn't seem to be the case though.

>> No.19411931

Why are there still Nijiniggers doing damage control?

>> No.19411952

Just noticed
>lazulight - luxiem - light theme
>obsydia - noctys - dark theme
>ethyria - ??? - paranormal or air?

>> No.19411989

>>19411859
Piracy is actually illegal and the guy got caught red-handed.

>> No.19412000

>>19411931
nijiniggers is to cope what fish is to water, when removed from it they trash about violently before dying

>> No.19412088

>>19410990
I keep getting her youtube ads.

>> No.19412145
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19412145

So this is the power of hololive. Days ago she was celebrating 2k

>> No.19412172

>>19412145
and now you understand why twitter twoviews seethe at hololive's success

>> No.19412190

>>19411899
Think you dropped this
>>19411019

>> No.19412198

Irys 10k again

>> No.19412214
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>>19412190
kek

>> No.19412219

>>19410990
Is this another one of those fake indies?

>> No.19412264

Do we all agree Riku should just push a new male wave right now to cover up Noctyx's failure?

>> No.19412268

>>19411858
What's the link to see this whole list?

>> No.19412267

>>19412145
wont be surprised if her mama ends up designing a Holo

>> No.19412291

IRyS 10k

>> No.19412324

>>19409731
This guy draws the best futa

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>>19412214
Good job figuring out the joke!
>>19412268
@holo_data

>> No.19412434

>>19412264
only if he wants to bury nijiEN

>> No.19412486
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>>19412219
mel sister https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgV5XZVeRe0

>> No.19412597

When, not if, WHEN NIjisanji debuts another EN wave, how do you think ore vocal members like Pomu and Finanna will react?

>> No.19412630

>>19412597
Resigning, I hope

>> No.19412661
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the rats cover got mogged by finanas orisong last month, wonder how rats orisong will fare now in comparison

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The girl suisei saviorfagged. Not even subbed to this girl but she's already appearing in my recommendations

>> No.19412712

>>19412696
the youtube algo at work baby

>> No.19412763

/#/ is declining.

>> No.19412814

>>19412661
I didn't like the new song. I liked the cover more kek.

>> No.19412865

>>19412814
it starts pretty strong but quickly becomes whatever for me.

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19412947

>>19412486
Oh right i saw her ad, it as blatant as fuck in trying to leverage her mama and her connection to hololive

>> No.19413010

Irys 11k

>> No.19413067

>>19412696
she has become an honorary holo in the eyes of the algorithm.

>> No.19413129

>>19412947
hey, make use of the assets you have. When you're an indie vtuber debuting you can't afford to let shame get in the way

>> No.19413251

Commissioning a Holo mama/papa must not be cheap at all, I wonder how indies manage to get the money.

>> No.19413319

>>19412114
>>19411676
So any chance that he inclines as a result of all this?

>> No.19413336

>>19413251
Artists are cheap
Riggers will make you broke

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>>19411899
streamer's on break so I started reading this and literally who are you quoting with any of this? These three made me laugh though
>bug in the algorithm
>Fake numbers
>quality numbers over big numbers
because coping seething and dilating over that is this thread's favorite passtime
>>19412661
It's a shame a lot of covers just fall to the wayside. I loved Lui's recent one, but it doesn't seem like JPs do their reps.
https://youtu.be/zDBDb3T728c

>> No.19413392

>>19413251
the rigging is the hard part, these days you literally have to wait in a line just to get a good one

>> No.19413491

>>19409731
I miss the random manga panels instead of this coomer bait garbage

>> No.19413508

>>19413377
Bug in the algo is the nijinigger complaining about hololive's dominance of youtube and blaming it on the algorithm being bugged
Fake numbers is one of the reddit ruck schizo's copes about Subaru's growth, same deal with quality numbers

>> No.19413519

On a random numberfag note:
Kiara added new emotes (NSO rip-offs) which accumulates 53 in total, almost the same amount as Marine (just by one), and according to an article an anon posted (https://www.streamscheme.com/complete-guide-to-youtube-gaming-emotes/)) it means she has over 5k members.
For a low to mid tier holo (until Sana decides to comeback) that's a lot and really makes you wonder how many members Gura has but she is even lazy to comission new emotes to fill the new slots.
Maybe Gura is the most membered youtuber on the platafform if someone like Kiara has that amount of members.

>> No.19413537

numberbros how many subs did Ironmouse got in Twitch?

>> No.19413629

Irys hit 12k just when she complete the stage.

>> No.19413660

>>19411899
is there another list or has this been cleaned up?

>> No.19413698

>>19413629
And lost them quickly
rumao VS fags are the new apexfags

>> No.19413725

>>19412145
hmm, had a big number count, unfortunately it looks like her ccv is reclining again, still alot higher than it was at first so far. Hope her expectations aren't that this will last or that she's made it. Its only a temporary boost.

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>>19413519
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/7544492?hl=en#zippy=%2Cupload-custom-emoji%2Cnumber-of-custom-emoji-you-can-upload

5k is just where the chart ends, anything above 50 requires you to contact youtube directly

>> No.19413939

>>19413738
Lol that "talk to us" sounds so menacing

>> No.19413969

>>19413519
What if Gura doesn't have many members at all and all these speculations are dead qrong?

>> No.19413990

>>19413738
>over 5k
>over
over=more than
Also, this add nothing on the speculations of memberships numbers outside that Kiara has more members than her median CCV.

>> No.19414018

>>19413508
holofags were shitting pants about ccvid all year even during the times it wasn't happening

>> No.19414032

>>19413319
>>19413844
I guess Japanese twitter is really eating this up.

>> No.19414040
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Happy women's history month
>>19413537
She went to 15k to 140k. Made at least a quarter million maybe more based on what her contract with twitch is

>> No.19414052

>>19409731
I have loved Hidarikiki's art since he was doing one-offs of his OCs, but it's really weird to use him for this thread.

>> No.19414119

IRyS just said she is releasing a cover song on her B-day. Hopefully its FOTM or something that can hook the algorithm so her original music does better. I know a bunch of anon's here were saying she needs to release a FOTM cover to get eyes on her music.

>> No.19414175

15 hours of the number one stream on vrabi being a Hololive Vampire Survivors stream.
https://vrabi.ml/hourly

>> No.19414192

>>19414119
Is probably the Last Kiss cover she teased about.

>> No.19414216

>>19414032
The power of Nijisanji Topic

>> No.19414246

>>19413990
Fucking saviorfags in hololive.

>> No.19414271

IRyS Elden Ring stream in 2 days. So Gura tomorrow and Irys the day after to finally compare it to Vampire Survivor. (Kiara doesnt count)

>> No.19414306

>>19414192
Nah that'll be later.

>> No.19414319

>>19414271
Ina will also stream Elden Ring tomorrow

>> No.19414324

>>19414175
Hololive just dominates.

>> No.19414360

>>19414175
Elden ring schizo in shambles

>> No.19414363

Two more NijiKR graduations.
https://twitter.com/KiruShin2434/status/1498908893472124929
https://twitter.com/LeeOn2434/status/1498908461265915904

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>>19405461
Nips are just different

>> No.19414368

>>19410539
How did Ame make so much last month? Almost as much as Kiara

>> No.19414379

>>19413519
Only metrics of "memberships" i have are likes between the various members i follow.
Kronii has had a poll break like 5.6k likes
Amelia had a poll hit like 4.3k
and Baelz has one for 2k
all within the last 2 months, Fauna has not run a poll but most her streams clock in 700~ likes
Baels is about the same and Amelias clock around 1.4k

>> No.19414406

>>19414363
How many of them have graduation after merging to main branch. Damn, I don't know if Bora leave at the right timing.

>> No.19414412

Elden ring schizo status?

>> No.19414426

>>19414175
Holy fuck!!

I fucking KNEEL Vampire Survivors!!!! One of the most buff games we have seen in some time. Who would have though, lmao.

>> No.19414433

>>19411153
Council and Ethyria both came around the same time and both were pretty big flops. Maybe it was just bad timing?

>> No.19414434

>>19414363
>more kr graduations
>ara chae is still staying
Fuck that bitch

>> No.19414450

>>19414363
>one of my friends has Hari from NijiKR as his favorite
wonder if she'll be alright

>> No.19414458

>>19414369
Translate asshole. There are like 2 people on this board that can actually speak Japanese.

>> No.19414476

>>19414368
Offcollab

>> No.19414486

>>19414363
When will Yagoo saviorfag KR?

>> No.19414493

>>19414369
I guess it's only counting the day untl Seffyna and Hada graduate as well

>> No.19414494

>>19414433
You have actual number rot if you think Council is a flop.

>> No.19414524

>>19414494
They are a flop in streaming hours

>> No.19414544

>>19414524
why are nijiniggers like this?

>> No.19414573

>>19414494
silver spoon generation that did nothing with it so far.

>> No.19414585

>>19414434
She'll be the last one standing.

>> No.19414598

>>19414544
Why are cumtard like this?

>> No.19414630

>>19414363
It's Nijisanji now. There's no more NijiKR.

>> No.19414634

>>19414306
I hope it's Ren'ai Circulation

>> No.19414650

Green whore is streaming.

>> No.19414651

>>19414486
HOLO KR FUCKING WHEN

>> No.19414662

>>19414634
Will she dethrone herself?

>> No.19414667

>>19413251
Meanwhile Mikeneko...

>> No.19414694

>>19414634
Nah, it's Only My Railgun

>> No.19414695

>>19414650(me)
Nevermind I'm retarded I just got the notification of her damn cat.

>> No.19414709

>>19414363
As long as Ban is there I'm fine

>> No.19414726

>>19414634
That would be pointless.

>> No.19414759

>>19414650
cute cat

>> No.19414760

>>19414667
You really believe that she is not able to commission a new model? This is just her attempt at pitybaiting so she can get fancuck to fund her new model

>> No.19414769

>>19414486
By this pint, if or when he enters into the KR market it is possible that he can just hire those who graduated.

>> No.19414779

>>19414363
>Merged nijiKR and nijiID to demage control before they graduate
What a shit company

>> No.19414824

>>19414760
I have to wonder, was that an actual translation or something slipped in by someone trying to spread shit? Like do people even have a way to confirm it, ive seen so many rrats bitten with this bitch that ended up being bait or plants at this point that I question half the shit I read about her now.

>> No.19414835

>>19414779
Without the merge they could at least blame the KR management again.

>> No.19414843

>>19414650
Finana on the telly?

>> No.19414852

>>19414524
>quantity over quality
Nigger, this is Hololive we are talking about.

>> No.19414853 [DELETED] 

>>19413251
There was a rrat a couple of months back that certain artists were thinking about doing it for free because of the boost it gave them in sales for their other works

>> No.19414872

>>19414824
>slipped in by someone trying to spread shit?
Most likely this.

>> No.19414888

>>19414853
Sounds like Nabi but her “family” is cursed other than Ame.

>> No.19414895

Was the only Lazulight/Obsydia/Ethyria stream that peaked over 2k viewers today Pomu's Yugioh stream?

>> No.19414905
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Inoue Taku showing some Suisex love. This girl is really becoming popular over there.

https://twitter.com/ino_tac/status/1498542853609328641

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>>19414363

>> No.19414940

>>19414853
Cover is not that cheap.
They have extra cash laying around collecting dust.

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>>19414363
Once you see Nari graduate, all hope for NIJIKR is over

>> No.19414998

>>19414363
Next graduation in 3 - 4 months.

>> No.19415031 [DELETED] 

>>19414853
No, that's just Kakage saying that being a Holomama right now is like being an FGO official artist a couple years back and that people would be willing to do it for free.

>> No.19415041

>>19414853
Not a narrative, Kakage himself said it.

>> No.19415058

>>19414998
how many are even left by this point?

>> No.19415083

>>19414363
>>19414486
>>19414651
The new staff member A-chan teased is Bora becoming the holoKR liaison and she's going to recruit half of nijiKR lol

>> No.19415098

>>19415083
I want to believe.

>> No.19415112

>>19415083
>N-chan is going to save them

>> No.19415115

>>19414853
No, that's just Kakage saying that being a Holomama right now is like being an FGO official artist a couple years back and that people would be willing to do it for free just for the privilege of being a holomama

>> No.19415134

>>19415083
the niji girls deserve so much better than nijisanji

>> No.19415146

>>19414779
Kinda smart ngl. Better have talents graduate out of 100+ than to have a whole branch mass graduate or got axed.
Either way, nijinogs would still defend it tho

>> No.19415167

>>19415146
NijiIN...

>> No.19415249

>>19414905
Kinda kino to see both incline at the same time. I hope they keep on working together from now on. Inoe really know to utilize suitan's voice best

>> No.19415261

>>19414952
But I already abandon hope for NijiKR ever since Bora graduation

>> No.19415295

>>19415058
15 still, 12 graduations including these. Still a better ratio than Re:AcT lol

>> No.19415345

>Most people saw this as good news for the KR branch to get away from their abusive management and harassment
>0 ID graduations
What the fuck is happening in Korea?

>> No.19415371

>>19415295
Re:Act has had something like 19 or whatever lol

>> No.19415386

>>19414998
Isnt this kinda fucked up? If you think about it there's something fishy with their graduation timing. It's like they are already fixed on axing the branch and just do it gradually to save face

>> No.19415472

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2D6DQVPkSY
Another one...

>> No.19415628

Aruran ARK stream 160 view
Miyabi ARK stream 230 view

Niji EN girl should consider themself lucky with their number right now

>> No.19415643

>>19411390
Not really explicitly Mel, but she advertised herself as the "Newest Ayamy Daughter" hoping for a Mel tangent.

>> No.19415683
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ENOUGH

>> No.19415722

>>19415628
Shouldn't the Stars be compared to Virtual Talent Academy since Yumenographia is long gone?

>> No.19415739

>>19415386
>nijiIN
died
>nijiKR
dying
>nijiID
next

People now are realizing how ruthless and fuck up nijisanji is and this company should just go to hell

>> No.19415752

>>19415345
I wonder how some of the lower-tier talents in NijiID are so loyal

>> No.19415753

>>19415472
Number predictions? It's Suisei but it's also her jumping into a trend
But also it's Suisei

>> No.19415801
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>>19415683
Strike while the iron is hot

>> No.19415808

>>19414853
I don't even think it's a rrat, just look at JP6 debut numbers, it's fucking incredible, and now they have posters iirc 46 prefectures? If this Super Expo is massively successful, then who'd know what'll come next, and that makes me very excited.

Personally, I can't really wait to see JP6's debut, gals have so good models.

>> No.19415812

>>19415753
<15k since it's not her usual time slot.

>> No.19415842

>>19415643
Will Meru saviorfag her? Or will she be on Mel's good grace and slip through her nepo into EN3?

>> No.19415884

>>19415683
ACCELERATE!!

The game is fun to watch and its something new. I'm enjoying the ride right now.

>> No.19415903

Man They could’ve made chronoir tier unit with suisei and towa, idk who the idiot in cover hq that keep pushing kanatowa when the former seem far more promising.

>> No.19415908

>>19415808
You mean their 3D debut?

>> No.19415912
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>>19415683
YOU WILL WATCH VAMPIRE SURVIVOR!

>> No.19415919

>>19415683
>Both EN Gold and Overall Gold were Vampire Survivors streams yesterday
I kneel Vampire Survivors

>> No.19415945

>>19415752
Their loyal to the branch, not the company. It also helps that the ID scene in general leans very heavily on unity. Shit could change in the future though now that there technically is no ID branch and if one of the more liked NijiIDs graduate. It could very well open the floodgates.

>> No.19415951

>>19415842
Didn't Yagoo dislike people leeching off their brand via their commissioned illustrators?

>> No.19415963

>>19408686
A bit late for that but I remember several streamers on YouTube (mainly french) mentioning that they could live entirely off YouTube with around 600 to 1000 viewers average per stream. I don't think they would need to do any side job for the moment. They can stop buying egg rotors and shit like that so they can have a bit more leeway in their budget.

>> No.19415967

>>19414651
>>19415083
If that happens I'm becoming a cover anti full time. Fuck koreans

>> No.19415973

>>19415908
Yep

>> No.19415976
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>>19414458
>nijifag is sad because he think nijisanji respond to this incident is trash
Also this
2nd one
>hololive fired rushia for breach of contract while nijisanji only suspended the talent for illegal things and vaulting the law
As can you see they're not happy with nijisanji respond

>> No.19415989

>>19415903
Nah.. suisei is best alone and kinda suck at duets. She isnt that versatile

>> No.19416001

>>19415753
14k depending on how good she is.

Also
>3 streams in the Rushia timeslot
Kek

>> No.19416042

>>19415976
more bored antis pretending to be offended
wow they're literally just like us

>> No.19416046

>>19415951
That's riku anon... yagoo always welcomed artist who wants to work with them not to mention the mamas and papas.

>> No.19416049

>>19414852
>Quality
Explain Sana

>> No.19416063

>>19415903
Suzy is too overwhelming to have in a duo unit. You need a Toko tier singer in order not to get absolutely mogged by her singing. Kanatowa is fairly balanced. You can make things work by making Kanatowa as background singers for Suzy though like in Suzy's 500k 3D live.

>> No.19416065

>>19415976
>Holofans want a major contract violation to be swept under the rug
>Nijifans want immediate termination over something as small as this
Man, Nijifans are brutal

>> No.19416068

>>19415683
Pekor, Muki... You have unleashed a wave of Meta streams at Hololive once again...

>> No.19416073

>>19415976
violating*, fuck this phone

>> No.19416075
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqmylZQVJxk

> Japanese
> Woman
> In NijiEN
> With a male model

What exactly is his plan here?

>> No.19416077

>>19415683
Based anya having the most accurate stream title

>> No.19416079

>>19415753
35k

>> No.19416111

>>19416049
Sana is more talented and accomplished than any of the NijiEN talents by far.

>> No.19416125

>>19415643
Well instead of just saying Ayamy's new daughter, she called herself Hololive Mel's mama Ayamy's new daughter.

>> No.19416126

>>19416042
They're nijifags you can check their profile

>> No.19416128

>>19415951
No. You literally can't stop illustrators from getting commissions unless there is a contract that forbids them to do so (there isn't). What he means with leeching off is someone like Uto who markets herself as Ame's sister or something.

>> No.19416130

>>19415683
>ENOUGH
Enough of what? Good numbers?
In that case, fuck off from this thread.

>> No.19416140

>>19416065
Why do you think we call them nijiniggers anon?

>> No.19416160

>>19415967
>t.NijiKR watcher
The Niji fears the Hololive, the market stealer
https://m.youtube.com/channel/UC2fvhDgem6GHbeUgSog-LZg/featured
>Ursurped the JP scene, and is almost on it's way to become the almighty, once the Super Expo is massively successful
>ID, dethroned, the first 1Mil Indo Vtuber is claimed by a Holomem, and ID3 is coming to seal the fate of NijiID, NijiID, whose completely irrelevant

>> No.19416166

>>19415976
As expected of touristsanji. Harassing their livers the moment they got the chance to

>> No.19416167

>>19415752
It's a very unity community and they used to do a lot of official things together that helped spread around the love. However after merging...

>> No.19416189

>>19416111
such as?

>> No.19416199

>>19415903
Speaking of units, are these just a jp thing or does cover also have plans to establish official units within stars, id, and en?

>> No.19416204

>>19416077
Even Kson is addicted to it, to the point that she considers this to be a Kami game. It's great yeah but it needs some more updates to get called that way.

>> No.19416222

>>19412947
> my nephew's friend's classmate works at Nintendo

>> No.19416228
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>>19416199
>within stars
I have one for you, it's called the Homobeggar

>> No.19416232

>>19416111
Let's not kid ourselves anon. Sana is the only HoloEN without an original song.

>> No.19416237

>>19416075
no idea but i like it
the audience for NijiEN males (underage chinese girls) can't tell the difference between ESL and native English anyway

>> No.19416236

Is it a good thing or a bad thing that maybe 4ch is the only place paying attention to the graduation of NijiKR, no redditor or twitter mobs spamming nonsense.

>> No.19416242

>>19415683
>finally get SoulsBornes permissions
>Hololive: How about no

>> No.19416243

So out of all the HoloEN Vampire Survivors streams today IRyS had the best numbers. Nothing against Fauna or Ina but that makes me really happy.

>> No.19416249

>>19416111
Talented at what other than drawing (which she never does on stream)?

>> No.19416270

>>19416236
it's absolutely a bad thing, that means the only people who even know about them can probably fit in a school bus

>> No.19416271

>>19415683
This also will be VS https://youtu.be/TsZi1MuVuv4

>> No.19416282

>>19416075
Why's his chin so long?
I can't stop looking at it

>> No.19416292

>>19415472
hell ya
more people coming for the 18:00 slot
streaming at this time won't be considered bullying anymore

>> No.19416294

>>19416126
Yeah, and a lot of the people shitting on Mori and wanting her to graduate are bored Holofags

>> No.19416297

>>19415903
Madoromi for Square Enix was successful so I reckon cover got other inquiries for their services so to make the whole thing easier and more marketable they just put them in a unit. While SuiTowa would be more hype and be better overall, Suisei's schedule is a lot more difficult to work around and focused on various solo projects than Kanata's who isn't as busy as either Suzy or Twap.

>> No.19416296

>>19416075
Where have you been anon? But desu she kinda cute tho. Too bad the model suck. If only they made it more androgynous like on her intro douga

>> No.19416305

>>19410826
>2 months per gen
The anykara way

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>>19416049
Anon you'd make more progress talking to a literal brick wall than the resident /#/ chumbud, low effort bait isn't worth it. they subsist entirely on copium.

>> No.19416333

>>19416243
She was also clearly the best player with two successful clears of the game. Ina and Fauna didn't even come close to a single clear.

>> No.19416334

>>19416049
Sana as an artist is very talented and can be argued as better than even Ina. Unfortunately, she just doesn't have the output or the skills of a good streamer. It's like how top football athletes aren't as good in playing basketball as top basketball athletes although there are some exceptions that appear from time to time (AI being good at both football and basketball)

>> No.19416348

>>19416111
if talent outside of streaming mattered Petra would be NijiEN's most popular streamer

>> No.19416357

>>19416328
>>19416049
why are nijiniggers like this?

>> No.19416361

>>19416199
We already have UMISEA anon for EN. IDs don't need a unit because they are 6 people. Homos are not idols so they will not have units. Maybe just stick with the generation names for units.

>> No.19416394

>>19415976
Based

>> No.19416414

>>19416232
Fauna...

>> No.19416417

>>19414650
>>19414695
>Just a video of her cat
>0 comments
>High chance she set them for moderation first
>On a video of a fucking cat
Menheras will Menhera

>> No.19416421

>>19416305
I saw people talking about how they strangle their own with this approach and that the viewership of the lowest performers will die off and eventually graduate, but...
Isn't that the entire point of the Niji approach? Flood the market, and only the strongest survive? Who cares if the low performers struggle, if you debut 20 in the span that Hololive only debuted 10, and half of your talents succeed while the other half fail, you've still got 10 stronger streamers out of it. With Hololive it's easy to get a dud like Sana and just be stuck with it forever.

>> No.19416422

>>19416199
What is
>Foxdemon
>KiraKira Senpai
>UmiSea

>> No.19416435

>>19416271
was looking forward for some burger eating content

>> No.19416454

>>19416361
>>19416199
Hoshistar is a thing

>> No.19416460

>>19416296
They should have given her something like Mashiro. Why are there no shotas anyway? How can you make a reverse harem gen without a shota?

>> No.19416475

>>19416242
Foobs and Pekora are considering playing Sekiro and Mori is going to do Bloodborne at least.

>> No.19416478

>>19416271
I welcome our new Vampire Survivor overlords

>> No.19416498

>>19415683
Mama mia that is a lot of VS.

>> No.19416505

>>19414824
Somene posted screnshoots of how it was a malicius transcription from 5ch.
Why? It was from paywalled twitcast amd if anyone wanted the true it will need to pay.

>> No.19416517

>>19416199
EN: FACKMI - Fauna, Ame, Calli, Kronii, Mumei, Ina
Kind of like OKFAMS but basically all the girls bullying Ina

>> No.19416533

>>19416236
I don't think the nijiniggers here even care. Their talents are all disposable, which is really sad to think. There's absolutely no merit in getting an unpopular oshi in Nijisanji cause you'll never know maybe in the next second they'd get axed.

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>>19416460
>Leftover model desu
>no money after luxiem campaign desu
>purisu andastando

>> No.19416583

>>19416130
Spamming a buff game like this is the best way to make it a debuff

>> No.19416588

>>19416517
No, fuck you!

>> No.19416589

>>19416475
She will do also Elden Ring
Now how far will she go with Elden Ring is unsure but she will do a full walkthrough of Blodhorne

>> No.19416637

>>19414650
>23k views
>22k likes
>under one hour
Tasty numbers

>> No.19416650

>>19416421
I feel kinda bad for Sanalite, 2 months ago i'd said that she just need time for the box to meet her. Now...

>> No.19416662

>>19416517
As if Ina wouldn't end up topping them all

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19416695

Nyanners fell from the biggest Twitch vtuber to decent size Twitch indie numbers.

What went wrong and how do the rest of vtubers avoid it?

>> No.19416711
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>>19416650
There's no reason to defend this kind of solo stream schedule

>> No.19416764

>>19416711
>still contributes more to hololive than certain holoJPs
Stop picking on Sana, she's doing fine

>> No.19416777

>>19416695
After the 3rd of Feb she only streamed 3 times that month lol. Recipe for decline on twitch since if you aren't on at least a few times a week, people will just find others to watch.

>> No.19416789

>>19416583
While true, there is also a shelf life ok how long a game can be buff, plus there's the algo perspective to look at too ( a bunch of streams of the same game are more likely to catch the algo). It's happened with many other games before, it'll happen with VS too.
The only good thing is that at least the game rewards the skilled with more numbers, that's certainly better than say, evil god Korone in that regard.

>> No.19416797

>>19415976
why do nijiniggers hate everything including their own? what prompts a man to become something like this?

>> No.19416810

>>19416111
Anon her roommate accomplishments doesn't matter as Sana she having two 6stars characters in arknights wont make her a enjoyable streamer

>> No.19416830

>>19416695
Did the Nux drama really affect her that hard?

>> No.19416832

>>19416695
Oh no no no what went wrong?
Vschizos?
Twitchschizos?

>> No.19416838

>>19416830
That was like October-November last year, she peaked long after that

>> No.19416839

>>19416421
No, because they don't get 10 stronger streamers, but 1 or 2.
The size of box also doesn't increase proportionally to the number of new debuts, so it reaches oversaturation levels very early and they start cannibalizing each other when their streams overlap
The scarcity in hololive makes the new debuts more unique, they are proper characters that will be used in future projects

>> No.19416841

>>19416764
This has always been the weakest excuse by far because it completely ignores long, consistent periods of extremely good output from said JP talents that Sana has never come anywhere close to in her entire time in Hololive so far.

>> No.19416847

>>19416695
Do a subathon

>> No.19416850

>>19416830
i think she also got covid

>> No.19416852

>>19416695
>If you're not live, you're dead
The Twitch Motto. Also, her and Mouse share a fanbase, so as long as Mouse keeps doing her subathon there's a level of 'fanbase overlap debuff' that will happen.
Where's that vshojofucker who share up the thread? Here's the price that needs to be paid for Ironmouse doing her subathon.

>> No.19416853

>>19416810
She's doing official art for holo merch.

>> No.19416863

>>19416777
Do vshojo have the box?? Who are their fans??

>> No.19416865

>>19416421
well... if your talents are disposable, then don't be surprised if your fanbase is full of people like this >>19415976

>> No.19416899

>>19416841
>streaming output is all that matters
Sana gets decent VOD views on her streams, moves merch and can do art for the company and her fellow holos, she's already far more valuable to them than low tier holos like Polka

>> No.19416904

>>19416517
Ina would just end up headpatting all of them with her tentacles

>> No.19416905

>>19416797
Ain't that classic chuuba fan behavior? didn't you always had holofans always trying to stir shit up against Kiara & Ollie
I dont know about the holoJP side of this fans-being-antis-or-specific-chuubas

>> No.19416908

>>19415683
Elden ring schizo don't look!

>> No.19416921

>has to kneel to the porn industry and get scorned either way
Nijisanji
>have former professional JAV actresses as variety show guests
Hololive

>> No.19416937

>>19416863
Twitter ppl i think.......

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>>19416075
> even the Niji clippers are trannies

>> No.19416953

>>19416810
She's doing the sprites for HoloEarth.

>> No.19416966

>>19416695
No wonder I don't see Vshojo schizo anymore

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19416976

22k cucks.

>> No.19416987

>>19416863
Twitch doesn't work the same way as youtube, Vods are basically nonexistant there so if you're not streaming you might as well not exist, unlike youtube where you can make one video a month and as long as people continue to click on it you'll still get pushed in the algorithm.

>> No.19416989

>>19416945
Do we actually have any proof that the dude's actually a she though, I've known a couple of guys born with feminine voices.

>> No.19417012

>>19416899
Why should doing art for the company matter? You can just commission an artist for that.

>> No.19417028

>>19416421
>Who cares if the low performers struggle
Umm, how about the talents and the fans?
People are not saying that the Niji approach doesn't work. Of course it works. It's just that it's more of a company-centric model. Unless you care more about the company rather than the talents, there's no reason why you would like the Niji approach.

>> No.19417026

>>19416764
You contribute to hololive by keeping fans coming back
is you gonna rrat with "shes doing art on the background" just give-up, any chuuba contributes more putting her waking hours streaming than drawing for a company that can hire anyother artist

>> No.19417045

>>19416421
Anon... there are 150 something niji and only like what? 10-15 of them are relevant and like 5 that could put big numbers on daily or ofthen (at least). When you have too many, you'll only drown the ones that are actually has a chance to incline or just find the motivation later to incined themselves. But the no.1 problem is niji is that they put more effords and capital into the top talents and their circle and let the rest rot at the bottom without a decent chance to fix themselves

>> No.19417052

>>19416899
Decent VOD views on your streams don't really matter if you only have two VODs a month, anonchama. Art is a complete non-factor considering the company pulls in artists for commercial and sponsored project by the truckload these days, and Sana hasn't even done a significant amount of Holo art in the first place.

Like, look, I don't dislike Sana, but she's genuinely one of the worst prospects Hololive has ever brought in excluding the genuinely problematic ones.

>> No.19417063

>>19416271
>Vampire Survivor
When will streamer play the superior game, Vampire Savior? I think old school gamer like Korone or Botan can do the sako bb infinite.

>> No.19417069

>>19416976
clicked the like button. not even a fandead, it's just in my nature to click the like button as soon as i open a video.

>> No.19417088

>>19416905
Kiara was an unfortunate case where Orcschizo singlehandedly made a bunch of newfags hate on her just from sheer "bandwagon" effect.
Ollie, well... she had a legit yab that wasn't explained, so of course she got a few schizos out of it.
Lauren though? I don't think the JP faggots calling for his head even watch him in the first place, but they might be watching other Nijis. There's in-clique unity maybe but they will tear you up if you're outside of the clique, even if they're both part of Nijisanji. It's a weird behavior.
Are there any idolfags lurking here? Did AKB or any other IRL idol group have these types of fans, that loved some of the members but actively and publicly despised others, despite being part of the same group?

>> No.19417089

>>19416853
>>19416953
How that make her streams enjoyable?

>> No.19417123

>>19415083
After Holofest, Cover will announce HoloKR and the new manager will be the branch manager for it

>> No.19417129

>>19416976
Why not? Every woman deserves support

>> No.19417143

>>19417088
>Ollie, well... she had a legit yab that wasn't explained, so of course she got a few schizos out of it.
anon nobody picked up on it until a few months after that stream aired, and then suddenly it was all everyone could talk about. It's literally nijiniggers digging for shit to drum up drama over.

>> No.19417148

>>19416695
subathon debuff + not streaming debuff + bf debuff + jrpg debuff

i think she's deliberately trying to tank her viewers for some reason

>> No.19417156

>>19416333
This is honestly surprising me, based on their stories the other two seems to be much more of a gamer than her

>> No.19417164

>>19416989
People already found her roommate
tiktoker 1.8million followers
zero streaming experience
good singing voice
nothing more

>> No.19417182

>>19417045
It always baffles me about rainbow company, they able to pull a lot tourists in events.

>> No.19417198

>>19417143
Seaniggers, not necessarily Niji ones either. There is some inter fanbase warfare with the HoloID chubbas, with fans of moona, Ollie, Risu and and Reine taking pot shots at each other using their Oshi. It gets a bit messy sometimes, since nijinogs also love to jump in.

>> No.19417200

>>19417012
>>19417026
>>19417052
You're underestimating the effect she has for her fellow holos too when they know she can have their back when it comes to art instead of relying on management which can be retarded and slow, she's a great catch to fill out the ranks compared to a lot of low tier JPs who literally contribute nothing but streaming the same FoTM everyone already does

>> No.19417221

>>19417164
Crunchyroll Chick also had 0 streaming experience, yet she's fine
I'd say the content creation experience is more important
Just weird he's in EN despite still learning how to speak English.

>> No.19417227

>>19416333
Did Ina and Fauna try the Library, though? Not to downplay IRyS’ clear, and IiRC she got further than Fauna in Forest stage too, but the Library is basically easy-mode. It’s way easier to clear that than Forest (which IRyS only got to around 20:00)

>> No.19417233

>>19417088
>Did AKB or any other IRL idol group have these types of fans, that loved some of the members but actively and publicly despised others, despite being part of the same group?
omg yes lol, akb even pushed the idea with
https://akb48.fandom.com/wiki/Senbatsu_Election

>> No.19417251

>>19417200
i love how disconnected this post is from reality

>> No.19417267

>>19417143
yeah that could be it too. But yabs are always more effectively spread if there's some kernel of truth to them + reaction from the affected parties themselves.
Calli yab --> She dug the hole herself
Rushia yab --> She dug even deeper
Lauren yab --> Company statement + suspension
There's a reason the nothing came of the hand yab, no one could verify who it was and she didn't touch upon it again for a long time, so talk of it died out.

>> No.19417273

>>19417123
It will honestly be a pretty good timing for major announcement like that, might as well announce ID gen 3 too.

>> No.19417276

>>19417182
Organizing big tournaments does generate hype. Tourists most likely only watch the most popular ones and ignore the rest.

>> No.19417287

>>19416421
Because some of those low tiers could potentially become high tiers themselves. Shuba just over a year ago was a mid tier Holo. Towa and Luna were supposed to forever be Roboco/Mel status. Nene was the runt of her gen and Moona was barely ahead of iofi. Now though Shuba is one of the top 5 holos CCV-wise in JP. Towa, Luna and Nene are Mid to high mid tier status now. Moona's numbers are still Roboco tier (CCVid not withstanding) but she technically is the top ID chuuba. Even the low tier holos like iofi and Mel have contributed behind the scenes. Iofi was the main reason why pochi became a Holo mama and if rrats are to be believed, Mel is the one who referred (Nepo'd) some of the members of Gen 6. Honestly, if Aki turns into a mid tier Holo, it'll prove that no one in Hololive is truly unsalvageable.

>> No.19417296

>>19417200
Shush, Aki, Mel, Choco and Roboco each have their place in HoloJP, andi say this as a filthy HoloEn watcher. I really wanted to give Snaa the benefit of the doubt, but given how active she is on her roommate, it's kind of hard to really cut her any sort of slack when Ina is able to better balance things.

>> No.19417302

>>19417227
Fauna did but only for the last run I think

>> No.19417310

>>19417156
People like calling Ina the gamer of Myth because of the EN x ID Mario Kart collab and Minecraft, which leads to a lot of people overexaggerating her skills. IRyS was neck and neck with her in the Mario Kart tournament, so it makes sense for her to be one of the better gamers in EN.

>> No.19417327

>>19417123
I wonder if there's a possibility of a "HoloInt" 5 person branch with one chuuba of each major language (all being ESL).
Would such a group eventually devolve into just being EN3?

>> No.19417351

>>19417221
you can only apply for nijiJP if you live in japan
at the time this retard was not
so the big brain went "I should apply for nijiEN"
yet somehow thought she should be in japan to debut
brought tickets and went back to japan for no reason

>> No.19417360

>>19417296
the difference is that ina views hololive as another commitment in addition to her art while sana views it as a hobby or side gig to her true job/focus

>> No.19417364

>>19417221
> he

>> No.19417367

>>19414853
Who is the most literal who Holomama? ID1?

>> No.19417387

>>19417200
If they need someone to "have their back when it comes to art", couldn't they just go to Ina instead? She even draws free art of the girls on stream every once in a while

>> No.19417420

>>19417327
>Would such a group eventually devolve into just being EN3?
Yeah, if they're just speaking their national language it will not get any audience, they're going to speak the language most people understand instead. See HoloID for example

>> No.19417421

>>19417182
Because there are too many niji talents and too many tournaments, so you only watch the more interesting tournaments over individual streams

>> No.19417434

>>19417156
IRyS has always been a strong gamer skills-wise who simply lacks experience in a lot of games. It's obvious by just how quickly she picks up and gets good at new games compared to some of the other girls who can go a full stream on a new game with barely any improvement.

>> No.19417445

>>19417200
You say that but "do nothing" JPs still push alot of merch.

>> No.19417461

>>19417351
Wtf? Rrat?

>> No.19417475

>>19417387
The group size is always increasing. You'll need a spare tire eventually, is what I think they thought of.

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>>19417233
jesus...
I guess Yagoo learned the right lessons from them though, can you fucking imagine the sheer amount of meltdown that would come from an official Holo popularity contest?
I guess that's why they stick to meme contests like the holo bonjour or the "blinking queen" and stuff

>> No.19417494

>>19417387
They dont need any chuuba to have their back
they can contract any jp artist, most will accept for the clout hololive can bring
also being in good terms with cover can help becoming a mama that boost them even more

>> No.19417557

>>19417494
I was mainly just responding to his rrat, but yeah. They definitely can just contact any artist on Twitter. There are so many of them who would bend over backwards to work with Hololive just from the brand recognition alone. They don't need someone on the inside to draw for them

>> No.19417558

>>19417434
She's honestly the best streamer in English to me. She put in the hours for streaming, great audience interaction, not only speak Japanese but can actually communicate in collabs, even pulled in some creatividad stuff for the valentine date.

I wonder if it's a bad decision to put her as Vsinger - not to say she can't sing but doing so raises expectation too much, instead of surprising the audience like with Calli and Gura. She really should have taken Sana's place in Council instead, Gen lacks a great singer anyway.

>> No.19417566

>>19417233
that seems toxic as fuck and breaks any sense of unity within the group

>> No.19417578

>>19417558
Yes the vsinger is a big label and people expect a professional singer when she has less experience than Mori.

>> No.19417579

>>19417461
Yugo said it.
https://youtu.be/kqmylZQVJxk

>> No.19417588

>>19417461
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqmylZQVJxk

>> No.19417596

>>19417485
He got smarter (or perhaps Coco did), instead of raising your oshi over others just shower her with SC directly instead.

>> No.19417605

>>19417578
The vsinger label is a big debuff*

>> No.19417610

>>19417558
Debuting alone and the model debuff really hurt IRyS a lot. Makes you wonder how much more popular she'd be if she was part of a generation and had a more traditional model

>> No.19417624

>>19417558
It will always amuse me that the best streamer holoen has is the vsinger that had to debut alone with a weird model.

>> No.19417649

>>19417485
>the sheer amount of meltdown that would come from an official Holo popularity contest?
From the fans or the members themselves?

>> No.19417659

>>19417624
I really, REALLY hope she gets a design revamp one day. She deserves it more than anybody by far.

>> No.19417674

>>19417649
> official
means sponsored by Cover or with some members doing it themselves (thought I can't imagine any of them doing that)

>> No.19417676

>>19417624
She's my oshi but she's not that good of a streamer. She doesn't do any special or hype streams (outside of the caraoke).

>> No.19417678

>>19417364
I only used "he" because I don't wanna go on vacation

>> No.19417696

>>19417578
Also the only thing it's good for is funding her songs directly, but is extreme debuff when it comes to actually promoting it. For the longest time you find it on Irys topic instead, also the whole chuuni hope theme doesn't make any sense or fit her character at all.

>> No.19417705

>>19417494
So holos are literally among those who can get away with "i'll pay you with exposure" huh

>> No.19417723

>>19417566
It was for money. From what I remember you voted with tickets that were available in the latest single they put out and you could vote as many times as you had tickets. Hard-core fans would buy thousands just to vote their fav up etc.

>> No.19417726

>>19417610
She's working with debuffs for sure, put any other Council member in her position and she will crater hard.

>> No.19417733

>>19417676
She is one of the more natural entertainers and streamers in EN, though, for sure. It feels like she's stuck in this awkward middle ground of one foot in the vsinger label, one foot in the vtuber world where the former detracts from the latter and neither is really bolstering each other yet.

>> No.19417738

>>19417659
I think the reason she didn't get a kimono outfit is because she's getting an updated model.

>> No.19417755

>>19417678
Touristchama...

>> No.19417756

>>19417674
I meant who would meltdown?

>> No.19417802

>>19417676
anon, if that's your measurement of a good streamer then only ame is a good streamer in holoen

>> No.19417803

>>19417733
She's a great mid tier holo and makes normal gaming streams entertaining but she'll never be a superstar. She doesn't have the personality for it.

>> No.19417835

>>19417802
Mori is good at turning her karaoke or gaming streams into events.

>> No.19417854

>>19417678
Jannies never come here and is one of the reasons why this place is schizo central.

>> No.19417858

>>19417803
Gura doesn't have a superstar bone in her body but is nearly at 4 mil subs so I don't really see your point

>> No.19417878

>>19417858
gura cute tho

>> No.19417877

>>19417738
We can only hope. Even though I've grown to love a lot of her design, it still doesn't really work as a vtuber model, especially alongside her peers.

>> No.19417904

>>19417858
Gura has superstar power and instincts naturally.

>> No.19417945

>>19417835
What? Putting a simple theme or opening vc doesn't make them events.

>> No.19417987

>>19417858
She's super autism anon

>> No.19417994

>>19415903
they're waiting to steal Toko from Nijisanji, or at least pair a stronger singer for her (Matsuri would probably work)
also Towa and Suisei gap, they also have the same strengths in power.

KanaTowa is closer, Kanata has range and power Towa has her ridiculous lows, power and better technique.

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>>19417904
>chumbuds really believe this

>> No.19418044

>>19415945
it will probably domino when someone goes first.

>> No.19418082

https://youtu.be/NKrutsrCtLc
Mio?

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>>19418011
>nijiniggers denying reality again

>> No.19418123

>>19418082
Getting over it challenge, to get the golden pot before she hits 1mil subs.
Well, good luck to her.

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> google translates physical therapist as "manipulative person"
kek, I thought the comments were burning Rushia at first glance
just gonna post this here in case some rrats get made out of this later on

>> No.19418213

>>19418163
sounds about right

>> No.19418263

>>19418163
Well it's technically right...

>> No.19418282

>>19418123
she might overlap poor Nene then

>> No.19418296

>>19415945
Yes anon, they are loyal to the branch, not the company. That's why they say they love nijisanji all the time and they were all optimistic about the merger and saw a chance of a new beginning.
>>19415146
NijiKR had tons of graduations much before merger, retard. It's obvious this isn't related to it.
You also obviously disregard the growth that Hada, Hayun and Nari just had a few days ago
>>19415739
KR and ID won't exist anymore in april, ther vtubers will exist in JP. They all can grow if they collab more with EN and JP, like other KR and ID grew a lot with it, the ones i mentioned before
>>19416533
No one in nijisanji got axed except for the terminated. Graduations happens. as for why there's barely any noise, its obviously because those are very small vtubers with small fanbases in the west. And if nijisanji fans aren't subbed to them, they will think it's sad but follow on their lives. You fags to this day don't understand how nijisanji works and how different it is from hololive.
>>19417045
>>19417028
Please. You fags think 3k-2k are bad numbers. No one can take any of you seriously. THose that get those numbers are relevant. And the fact that you don't even know how much nijis exists shows how much you actually know. There's much more than "10-15 relevant" without using this retarded mindset of this thread.

It's funny because it's so obvious it's just a bunch of holofags talking to each other about things they actually don't watch, know or are part of. The use of "talents" just make it very clear.

>> No.19418304

>>19418282
Oh no mio bullying nene!

>> No.19418403

>>19418282
She's not planning on going over, she just set the deadline herself, so she gonna keep doing it for however long it takes to get to 1 mil or clear 50 times, not in one goddamn sitting.

>> No.19418459

>>19418296
Calm down ShinobiHost

>> No.19418485

>>19418296
You're obviously having a moment and I don't want to engage, you just made me laugh with
>No one in nijisanji got axed except for the axed

>> No.19418514

>>19416976
it's a cute cat though.

>> No.19418553

>>19418459
Kek

>> No.19418554

>>19418459
You really is obsessed with this guy huh anon

>> No.19418587

>>19418296
> you also obviously disregard the growth that Hada, Hayun and Nari just had a few days ago
> he doesn't know about the drama buff
are you new here?

>and the fact that you don't even know how much nijis exists shows how much you actually know
>while this board and thread are the only ones in the entirety of the internet talking about the new KR graduations
alright, just a schizo then, moving on

>> No.19418602

>>19418485
terminations count as fired. what i mean is that no one is fired for low performance or anything of teh sort. Otherwise Hajiki would be out since 2018

>> No.19418616

>>19417198
Indogs hating their own ilk is always funny.

>> No.19418636

>>19417566
It's also toxic as fuck in the anime, and that's even with some serious rose tinted glasses.

>> No.19418642

We have another test of the power of vampire survivors. Yugioh put her over 10k, what can VS do?
https://youtu.be/JRawuB4W-Xw

>> No.19418705

>>19418587
There's no drama buff, retard. Hada, Hayun and Nari were all part of the valorant tournament with JP for weeks.
>alright, just a schizo then, moving on
It's talked on twitter, discord and reddit by nijisanji fans. ofc no one who wasn't a fan of those two will be bothered, at best they will be sad and continue their life, even more nijien only fans who don't care about other branches in the first place

>> No.19418752

>>19418705
they missed hayun with 7k viewers a few days ago and getting like 3k subs and Nari getting what, 20k subs in the last weeks while being now a 1k streamer?

>> No.19418753

>>19417200
Roboco, Mel and Choco are good on collabs, they also initiate a lot of it.

haven't bothered with Aki since i hate her design.

where's the proof that Sana's doing official stuff and not roommate stuff?

kakage also said that artists would give holo free work just for the clout it comes with. also basically unlimited supply of good art on their fanarts alone.

>> No.19418777

>>19417649
>Holo popularity contest
This has been resolved. Its YAGOO. And nijiniggers trying to cause tribal wars within the holobubble get the rope.

>> No.19418845

>>19418554
NTA, but when you get caught lifting shit straight out of /#/ you definitely deserve to get called out. Like, not even bothering to put the data in a different sized table or anything, just straight ripping it. And then people in the comments of the thread avoiding directly naming the source.

>> No.19418904

>>19418845
that's a very retarded thing to be bothered in 4chan of all places

>> No.19418905

>>19418459
Holy shit that is exactly how that faggot types on reddit

>> No.19418977

>>19418904
I'm agree, I'm just trying to wrap my mind around why that anon seems so fixated on that bloke, moreso than being bothered myself. Me, I find it funny that someone got caught lifting shit from /#/.

>> No.19418996

how much this niji will get? isnt she a bottom tier?
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1497164514374135854

>> No.19418998

>>19417579
it just might work out for her, separates her from the crowded market that is NijiJP while Luxiem raised visibility for manjisanji EN)

>> No.19419024

>>19417659
Sana has a worse model but that lazy bitch doesn't deserve anything.

>> No.19419028

>>19417579
>>19418998
isn't yugo a tranny? non binary shit? guess they see it as a man kek

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>>19417485
Hololive version of popularity contest

>> No.19419092

I think Nijisanji should go full ACCELERATE with EN. I want them to test out debuting 5 vtubers every single week for a month and see how it works out.

>> No.19419119

>>19417705
people coming in offering free work is different from actively looking for them and saying "i'll shout you out in a video"

but yeah they could easily get away with it

>> No.19419168

>>19418996
※出演者、スタッフも含め感染対策を徹底したうえで配信を行います
>we will be careful now, promise.

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>>19419028
it's normal for nijitrannies

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>>19417200

>> No.19419422

>>19418753
>haven't bothered with Aki since i hate her design.
This is the most homosexual thing I have read this week.

>> No.19419457

20k for suisex

>> No.19419498

>>19419422
art for her is fine, the floating twintail shit just turn me off for some reason.

>> No.19419604

>>19419053
suisex tsuyoi...

>> No.19419688

>Suisei VS 21k
Elden Ring bros...

>> No.19419689

Since different Holo members appear in different newspapers of Japanese provinces, does that mean we could have a Hololive Sengoku period where each Holo member is a daimyo of that region?

>> No.19419708

>>19418996
It's mostly low tier shitters from now, here's the (JP) list
20/02/16 - Shellin Burgundy (has model)
20/03/07 - Amemori Sayo (has model, debut was announced but cancelled)
20/04/01 - Kuroi Shiba
20/04/12 - Hayama Marin (has model)
20/05/19 - Hayase Sou (announced)
20/09/21 - Suzuki Masaru (has model)
20/09/25 - Gwelu Os Gar
20/09/27 - Nagao Kei
20/10/17 - Fushimi Gaku
20/10/25 - Kaida Haru (has model)
20/11/28 - Suzuya Aki (has model)
20/12/11 - Kitakoji Hisui
20/12/12 - Genzuki Toujirou
21/01/02 - Yamagami Karuta
21/01/09 - Sorahoshi Kirame
21/02/10 - Seto Miyako
21/02/23 - Suo Sango
21/03/22 - Todoroki Kyouko (has model)
21/05/01 - Gilzaren III
21/06/05 - Asahina Akane
21/06/06 - Kurusu Natsume
21/06/24 - Azuchi Momo
21/07/23 - Lain Peterson
21/07/23 - Leos Vincent
21/07/24 - Lauren Iroas
21/07/24 - Axia Krone
21/07/29 - Oliver Evans
21/08/05 - Asuka Hina
21/09/14 - Naruse Naru
21/10/04 - Todo Kohaku
Not a Niji expert desu so anyone who knows more please correct me but the only names that pop out as probable successes are Gwelu, Kaida, Ngo, Leos and Lauren

>> No.19419712
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>>19419197
Holy shit

>> No.19419890

>>19418011
Im gonna laugh at you fagoons so hard if Sana comes back and selen having no more chances to win median against Sanegro

>> No.19419903

>>19419708
Holy shit they still have backlogs from 2020. Meanwhile, holoX most likely will have their 3D after Fes3.

>> No.19419925
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>>19419712
compare respective fan reaction to Holox vs this

>> No.19419992

>>19418296
LOL
LMAO
SHINOBIHOST HEY #1 NIJINOG TASK FORCE, I'M A BIG FAN OF YOU FIGHTING HOLOBRONIES IN r/Hololive and r/Virtualyoutubers and YOU FIGHT THEM IN THE NUMBERS THREAD TOO? WOW TRULY NUMBER 1 NIJI TASK FORCE

>> No.19420049

>27k Suichan
Very nice

>> No.19420053

>>19419708
Gilzaren will get viewers just to see wtf he does

>> No.19420077

Damn it Suisex, she should have started playing a bit later to funnel into Nene. I don't think she will stream till the Live.

>> No.19420085

Luna only 7k in VS. actually better numbers for her but Suisei obviously played this a bit before streaming and is thus in a more watchable position

>> No.19420102
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>>19418296
HOLY MOTHER OF DRONE!
The absolute state of nijinigger

>> No.19420123

>>19420085
She keeps dying

>> No.19420137

>>19420102
Lulu...
at least not lulu is around

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Use this one when you fags are done here
>>19409565
>>19409565
>>19409565

>> No.19420245

Delicious Suisei 30k.

>> No.19420282

>>19419197
Based King. Didn't even know how LGBT flag looks like.

>> No.19420364

AAAAAAAAAAA SUISEI WHY DID YOU GIVE THE MAGE BOSS A BLOWJOB

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