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Quoting from last thread.

>To that, I make another call, since we have lost the neutral arbiter (circumstances and actual neutrality discussions ignored), we need to establish a system to make decisions. I know that >democracy, but we really don't have that many options here.
>Therefore, the matters I propose to the thread for voting are:
>>One delegate for each thread; Y/N
>We need to decide on this first and foremost, to make sure everyone is on an even footing voting wise, and it doesn't turn into a Civ V "I have 100 delegates and vote myself leader of the world" situation
>>Purely realistic or Fantasy?
>>Non-human species: Y/N?
>>Magitek-Chuubanite: Y/N?
>>Era (definitive)
>These matters go hand in hand; if realism wins then the matters involving supernatural elements are void. If fantasy wins, we need ot flesh out parameters. Discussion can go from there.
Feel free to also suggest alternatives, either to decision-making methods, or voting matters.

>As an aside, who ware the original OP's of this general when it first started, and are they still around? Do they represent anyone or just lurk? Kinda interested to know

>>19273661
Yes, we'd be happy to trade for your hyper advanced space flour.

Do you mind us asking what it does exactly by the way? is it special? or is it just really good Flour? I'm probably going to agree regardless, just because it gives extra fluff to our fried chicken (now we can brag about it having special 1000 times filtered Sanalite space flour in it) and because I honestly don't think we actually have all that much arable land to grow flour on. I just want to know incase it could lead to some extra cool fluff

>>19274601
Replies we got in the last thread for reference:
>>19270872
>>19271077
>>19271414
>>19271591
>>19271719
>>19271803
>>19271919
>>19272549

Aren't there programs that let you impose a map onto a globe? I'm surprised we haven't seen one yet.

>>19274697
Not much of a difference other than how its preserved. We use special grinders in the bakery to grind up flour more efficiently than windmill stones. We also have self-rising flour that rises by itself. There's also cake flour thats ground more finely than normal flour for pastries. We have both whole grain flours and white flour. As for preserving it we use sealed paper bags where if you store it in a cool dry place the flour could last for years. So long as you don't poke holes in the bag or get them wet. We do have a water proof tarp to cover the bags to protect them from rain and sun. If you get your flour from elsewhere then we understand. KFP is quite a ways from the landing site.

If you're around then you can always try our bread and pastries for yourself.

I know some threads ago, there was talk about oceans (naming, boundaries, etc.) that didn't end up going anywhere. Maybe that's something to think about next?

>>19275039
There are, but they're mostly for aesthetics. A flat map has better readability and is easier to edit anyway.

>>19275338
We accept your conditions space people. Let the flour and gear flow.

I imagine Sanalite pastries will be sought after in KFP high society as well due to their superior make

>>19275338
>>19275841
just to clarify before I punch out for the night, KFP only producers small mechanical parts. The industry evolved form firing mechanisms for flamethrowers. You'll probably have to outsource production of larger mechanical parts to some one else.

>>19275841
Which is ironic considering most recipes are just better made supermarket pastries. Though we do have good home made cakes because of modern kitchens. I want to make a Japanese strawberry Christmas cake someday.

>>19276122
That's fine. The smaller the better.

>>19273710
>/clg/, /nasa/, /kfp/ now join the discussion instead of just /nasfaqg/, /meat/ and /infinity/ as always
>an anchor for lore posts
>map
>clean OP
Wow. Im surprised and impressed. You guys really did a lot of work

/rose/ anon here, I got completely ignored in my split so I'm going to go ahead and say that no objections means I'm free to do whatever I want. I'll start working on stuff for my nation, so let's plucking grow!

>>19279269
Welcome to the fun!

>>19274601
/ag/ here, I missed this cause I was playing Elden Ring
>One delegate for each thread; Y/N
Yes, seems ideal. Unlikely for a serious schism to occur except in rare cases, and even then it can probably be worked out within each respective general rather than muddying up this one
>Purely realistic or Fantasy?
Some fantastic elements could help the creative juices flow, but going all-in on high fantasy is begging for more autistic techno/magic ruleset arguments that'll destroy threads. I vote (very) low fantasy, with threads potentially able to go a little crazier as long as said elements stay totally self-contained within their nation
>Non-human species: Y/N?
Not a fan personally but see prior point
>Magitek-Chuubanite: Y/N?
Ditto
>Era (definitive)
Floating/Punk is necessary, but I'm of an early-mid-1800s mindset personally

>>19279269
Thats what I ended up doing for my split but then a different anon came in with much more detailed lore. So just go nuts

>>19273764 (although I already archived it)
Another short story from /meat/: >>19280346
ngl sometimes I worry our stuff might drive off people from other threads instead of just the normies and tourists, so I decided to just link the post for now inb4 the thread got pruned again

Bump

So far /nasa/ has trade partners with /who/, /rrat/ (though offerings of peace), KFP, and /ggg/. We still need to negotiate a trade route through /uuu/ for /who/. And I think KFP has their own routes. We should be able to till enough land to get a bumper summer crop of wheat. We'll have to bake and preserve pastries for long distance trading. And the wheat will be bagged as well. We should have enough crops in the greenhouse to last a second winter unless Mozzies sabotage shit again. /who/'s potatoes and cattle should help us through the winter. And if KFP likes our bread then perhaps we can ask for a few chickens.

There's talks about sugar beets in the south. That and maple syrup would work well for our sugar supply. With sugar, egg, and dairy comes ice cream that we can sell locally. Still have to forage the native flora for possible medicines. And we still need to prepare a quarry. At least we have some food and trade secured. Even if it means working around the clock. Morale is quite high as this is a change in life Sanalites need before Sana returns. We're still faced with the dilemma that Sana's return is a long way off.

>>19273764

>>19282128
/meat/, you really have to stop posting stuff like this because I think I'm starting to develop a taste for it

>>19291134

bump

>>19291134
/meat/'s writefagging is magical. I know like minded people think a like but those guys are more hive minded than the kronies

>>19297401
To be fair, /meat/ is more or less a fetish general with a very specific niche, so it stands to reason that its writefags have a very similar range of ideas they find appealing

>>19277983
The anchor and new OP (I think) were from the Kronie lorefag. I guess a peace offering.

>>19298565
i'd say most guro-focused communities tend to have that same kind of dedication. /meat/ isn't just a fetish general, but the fetish, in addition to being niche, is also arguably the furthest extreme you could get as far as fetishes go. as a result, most guro communities are surprisingly calm and welcoming. they rarely need to do any gatekeeping, and anyone who wants to harm them can just report them to the authorities instead of wasting their time trying to get a reaction from the people who get off to literal gore.

>>19273764
/clg/ milhis and geography dump, from the anon who has done literally everything else.

Notice that our borders are weird at best, and that the mountain range on our continent's borders do not delineate the frontier between /voms/ and Ayakkayoli well at all--these are not herding and grazing lands for nomads.

To the south, the border WOULD make more sense further down to the north bank of that major river, but they're not there. Why? These plains are hard to defend, and having a randomly placed border is not great for either country. Guess what? We recently modernized our armies as soon as we got flintlock technology, and have been experimenting with breechloading carbines that can fire multiple shots before reloading.

Having recently taken massive territory from /pcg/ in the wake of Queen Pippers' descent into madness, we have seized the majority of the West-Median plains and pushed the border to the sacred city of Phasmollab--hence that salient oddly close to that arc in the river. We intend, shortly, in the aftermath of greater instability, to seek further favorable readjustments and continue pushing the borders ALL THE WAY down.

To the north, the dino-riders of /voms/ were unable to gain a decisive defensive advantage against ring-socket bayonets, lighter cannons, and repeating rifles. Instead of seeking massive concessions there, we elected to focus on taking a strip of territory built around the Spreadbench peninsula, integrating the new conquests into the Theme of Amarikiya and using them as a springboard for trading more intensively with /ccu/. The northern "Magnet" gulf around which their Monoenara Praefecture has been organized is our next target, we intend to push across and take a narrow coastal zone up to the gulf's midpoint.

How has Ayakkayoli increased its territory by a third in the last decade? Our finances are in excellent shape--though the lands taken from /pcg/ were decaying rapidly in administrative sophistication, they were densely populated and had bountiful tracts of excellent farmland. Low-intensity pitchblende, titanium, and lapis lazuli extraction existed in the area as well, far to the west. We have additionally cut down on tariffs and taxes for merchants arriving to the towns on the Spreadbench, and in the empire as a whole--often 30% or more is the damage, Ayakkayoli elects to take 20% and, depending on services rendered, decrease it to even 10%. In this fashion, many more merchants have begun operating in our lands, skilled craftsmen too. We are now net exporters.

Our armies were formerly comprised mostly of heavy infantry, longbowmen, and melee cavalry, armored like knights, with the occasional harquebusier amongst the ranks. Not anymore. Much like the OTL Hullyeon Dogam established by the Joseon, we have consolidated and centralized the process of training and equipping our cavalry and gunpowder troopers. Heavy armor is gone--we have begun mass-producing sleeved brigandine coats. Our melee cavalry now move faster and look much like the AoE3 Hussars, and receive ALL equipment and mounts from government-owned ranches and warehouses. (think 40K Mordians on horseback with sabers, lances, flintlock pistols, and pink uniforms). Our dragoons wear much the same and have been organized into their own regiments with repeating breech-loader carbines and sabers. This has made the army more mobile and professional overall, and increased our knowledge base for making war. Our musketeers are trained to move fast and reload even faster. In particular, Ayakkayoli's musketeers are drilled HARD so they can counter-charge enemy cavalry and skirmishers whilst retaining formation, firing at close range with bayonets fixed. Our cavalry, artillery, and rifle regiments provide screening for these men at the core of the battle line. When needed, our pikes and heavy swordsmen work to clear ffeld fortifications and trenches. Ayakkayoli loves combined arms.

>>19274601
/nasfaqg/ but mostly have been a neutral contributor
>One delegate for each thread
define what the delegate would do. If its what i think it is, then I'd say one main delegate and a few approved assistant delegates. Main delegate is the one whose vote counts.'
>Purely realistic or Fantasy?
Low fantasy. Magic is a thing but does not dominate the setting.
>Non-human species
Y
>magitech-Chuubanite
Y, but well defined and limited in power.
>Era
1700s-1800s. Some punk/floating elements but not to the point where suspension of disbelief is lost.

/meat/ died again. hopefully he didn't get banned like i did, though i guess the jannies were merciful with me last time.

>>19299826
>>19273764
Also, our country is divvied up in some kinda knock-off of the Byzantine theme system--the central government trains and dispatches a regional army of uniform size known as a tagma--all of whom are composed of the same units in the same proportions. Internal trade makes sure that both soldiers from poorer and richer provinces have the same brigandine, the same muskets/rifles/greatswords, etc. Each of these armies is responsible for provincial defense. Each theme, however, must recruit the soldiers for its army, with excess volunteers being rerouted as necessary--in times of peace, each theme fields a single tagma. When going on the defense, reservists are called up--each theme is expected to muster at least a second full reserve tagma, hopefully of equal quality to the first, though this is impractical.

Currently, these four tagmata are the most active: Amarikiyan, Alchemilic, Oumiyan, and Exegentic. They are continuously deployed for frontier defense--their duties make them best used to launch probing/retaliatory raids; they remain, in force, within the Empire's borders at all times (or as often as possible).

On the attack, the Empire noticeably fields smaller, less cumbersome armies--rarely will an invasion force comprise of formations exceeding those of the Utanic, Canichoral, and Momosfikonian tagmata, plus the Imperial Guard units brought along on campaign. Touavgon, Mavrikoukleion, and Satonikon all keep their tagma as, basically, divegrass midfielders. If a MASSIVE push on either defense or offense is needed, we throw them in. they were instrumental in securing and taking the former /pcg/ lands, and it's likely we'll transfer the Satonic Tagma to the frontier once we finish setting the border at the southern river, and carve out Thema Ayania.

I would like to COMPLETELY occupy /voms/, but I need a subject buffer state between us and /tsun/, since we can't just...annihilate those slug-fuckers, Holo(live)domor-style.

Perhaps /pcg/ can finish handing over their northern territories, and we help them take some of the southern lands of /vsj+/? Those are more easily defensible, we both shorten our frontiers at the expense of the regional hegemon.

>>19301228
Why yes, we are imperialist jackasses. Proposed border changes over time. Natural borders now make more sense. We further weaken the continent's hegemon, give PCG some better commercial lands and shorten THEIR vsj+ border. The end goal is to carve up /tsun/ into a rump state between /clg/, /indie/, and /ppg/. /pcg/ is totally welcome to swallow up 774 if they so wish.

Would the lads over at /ppg/, /pkg/, and /wactor/ like to have some fun?

>>19301228
But /voms/ is just one big desert

>>19273710
Is there any lore for /vsinger/?

>>19301700
/voms/ is one big desert with some...inconvenient geography...for them.

That appealing, long coastline with easy access to four specialized generals. We get LOTS of immigrants from /Ñ/, and they have a long, decorated history of service in the Momosfikonian Tagma, we'd love to have more of them. If /pcg/ accepts the territorial concessions, we will give their merchants increased privileges on their way to trade with /yah/ plus the holos, and favor their chartered companies alongside our own for neo-colonial commercial initiatives/exploitation on the people of /tsun/. They're running out of serfs; in exchange for a fucky northern border, we're happy to begin eating at /voms/, and raid the shores of /tsun/, /pyon/, and /wvt/ for chattel labor.

>>19301911
Does not seem to be much if any

>>19301686
stay the fuck out nigger

>>19301913
if we take the territory we want from /voms/, our pocketbooks and those of our allies will swell, we will execute colonial ventures more effectively, we of Ayakkayoli will be able to raid the one state fundamentally opposed to our existence with impunity. Some real Hizir Reis shit. Our long-term strategy is to effectively leave a rough equilibrium on the continent in which we and /pcg/ hold moderate advantage over all other parties.

>>19302015
I would not be opposed to dismembering somebody further and carving out /sxg/ as an ally/subject.

>>19301911
only a single greentext as listed in the OP archive: https://rentry.org/ihba7

>>19302013
No. Allahu akbar.

>>19302015
>>19301913
The Emir of the Bani Pika will stop you fucks!

>>19302052
Seems more of /vtsings/ desu

Yo the countries all have missing lore atm! We cant declare wars yet!

>>19302226
If the threads want to use the map to play something like risk or diplomacy, I'd say they go for it. If any map changes come from such games and ALL the participants agree to these changes then why not? Its just another way to conduct diplomacy

>>19302295
Maybe simulation conflicts are fine

>>19273764
I have collected all of my clg autism into one rentry: https://rentry.org/dxppi

>>19302226
We're the only one on this continent so far whose military units have names, uniforms, operation theaters, decorations, ethnic makeup, equipment standards, defense apparatus infrastructure, and mechanisms for calling up reserves. We are very much meant to give a Byzantine flair (quality, discipline, focus on more flexible permanent smaller formations) to the army, plus some United States Civil War and British redcoats.

I think The Empire of Ayakkayoli is pretty ready to roflstomp some people.

/774/ is weird because they're an ancient /jp/-era civilization with a large number of chuubas and groups (vapart, honeystrap, animare)
But the thread itself is quiet.
Could be the Stellaris style Fallen Empire, once a powerful force from the older era but now in decline and stagnation

>>19302362
Im going to copy that and make my own rentry out of it. I'll do this in order to format it a bit and make it look nice if thats fine?
Massive thanks for your lore contributions

>>19302492
Lore idea
Present day /774/ was once the capital of a huge continent sized empire on par with Niji, Holo, and the Big Five back in the pre-/vt/ days
But after the Great Split from /jp/ and into /vt/, barbaric invasions from the ~~Germanic~~ Small Corpo tribes, they slowly lose territory to what will become /vsj/, /pcg/ and the others

>/infinity/ proposes vague military lore, and details of diet and culture
>"Ugh the Kronies are such Mary sues all they talk about is military I bet they want to conquer the world"
>/clg/ proposes their entire top down military hierarchy, uniforms, technology, history, and plans to conquer their neighbors
>"Thanks for the contributions"

>>19302593
>~~Germanic~~
Haha newfag cant strike

>>19302594
.... ive never complained about infinity military lore

>>19302621
Not you per se but more than one person did last thread. Frustrating all the same.

>>19302620
>>19302593
p̶l̶e̶b̶s̶

It's gonna take a lot of autism for /774/ to get their shit together and return to /jp/ era superpower
It's like the Italians remaking Rome

>>19302529
Absolutely, you can do that. If you can make it nice, BY ALL MEANS, please make it make sense.

>>19302594
If we're gonna be a martial society, we had best at least make it somewhat realistic.

How are we organized, the specific resources we're looking to seize plus the other nations we wish to trade with, etc.

Military just comes to me most easily, I really hope somebody else from /clg/ comes in to flesh out our culture, society, civilian history, diet, etc.

Please. I don't want my usual haunt to look like some kinda RTS faction that's emaciated as an actual society.

>>19303004
I support you writing all this military stuff, it'd very well thought out and interesting, but I'm just upset that when my general was doing the same to a much smaller degree, we were told we were overdoing it. Even if we were writing about the rest of our society too

>>19303004
I would contribute but
A. Im a Lumifag so my ideas would be biased to one sect of society
B. Im already invested in /meat/

>>19279269
lets plucking grow!

>>19302593
>>19273764
Ayakkayoli is...not Germanic. Not strictly. We come from a HEAVILY "Romanized" (Or Holonized, whatever it may be) subject people of HoloLive, specifically refugees/colonists from the lands that became /hlgg/, Watson, the Gen V splits, NijiEN. On the way, we picked up some influence culturally from /wvt/, but not many of their people. This happened towards the end of the Great Split, view us as, perhaps, taking inspiration for our origins from the Vlachs, Aztecs, Persians, and Neo-Assyrians. When we arrived and set up the Despotate of Canichora, we quickly began assimilating many of the not!Germanic, not!Avar, not!Sarmatian, not!Slavic tribes milling about in the wake of 774's collapse. Those who did not end up in our orbit eventually became, specifically, /pcg/, /pkg/, /tsun/. We made the local tribes culturally in communion with us, encouraging /ñ/ immigration, and establishing a military in the face of what appeared to be unwarranted aggression from other tribes of the people we had just mixed peacefully with and integrated! (Turns out one of our early leaders made a racist joke about some dead /tsun/ leader and we, for whatever reason, were singled out for using more prostitutes as spies than the other countries) Centuries of back-and-forth war ensued--/voms/ was an ancient polity of ethnic connection to the old 774 power, we chose not to fuck with them at first. Naval skirmishes with /tsun/ abounded. /ppg/ rebuffed our trade offers, and the border stalled not too far from the north of the two rivers between us and /pcg/.

And then guns showed up. We were already the only party on the continent who bothered with doing shit like writing strategic manuals, standardizing/centralizing how armies were raised, etc., we were just small. Some regional satraps over at /indie/ had apparently found a few old war treatises? We started an officer's school just to teach out of the smuggled copies we got our hands on, and we would like to point out that our intel says /moon/, /haha/, and /rose/ adopted the teachings within at the same time. (OOC: that's who plays rts and gsg) /kfp/ took a view of these manuals and really only adopted their advice at the squadron and battalion level--they got real good at caravan guarding, small raids, picket/skirmish lines, and battles with a few hundred soldiers on each side. But not much else.

When mass infantry became a general world-wide thing much the same way as it did during the Chinese Warring States period, and like late-medieval Europe OTL, we were poised to exploit the simultaneous development of gunpowder--a cultural exchange between us and /haha/ resulted in our combined efforts producing the first crude DRAGOON tactics (OOC: Selen and Lumi play RTS that's literally it), which spread rapidly to the other nijien splits...and not to OUR neighbors, because fuck us, right? Why would we ever invent useful shit? Only /pkg/ tried this out, and fewer than a fifth of their military leadership got on board--to this day, only their elite Sundemon life guards fight like our normal cavalry troopers. Well, turns out foot archers don't do nearly as well against light cavalry if you outrange them with carbines.

>>19287699
>We're still faced with the dilemma that Sana's return is a long way off.
This is irrelevant to the thread and I don't wanna shit up your general, but last night I was reading through a thread where sanallites were talking about unmembering and unsubbing. How are you guys fairing over there?

>>19303081
I honestly don't get why people jumped on you like that if we hadn't even settled on tech level yet. I like our current model, where it's like 1645 (End of Ming, beginning of Qing) - 1876 (Little Big Horn, semi-automatic weaponry begins accruing value on the battlefield).

>>19303319
Nah, you're good. Feel free to keep investing in the thread you like best.

>>19303612
>>19279269
As one of the milfags, and a guy who's got a friend that likes Rosemi, I'll give you some lore. I like how Rosemi has played AoE on stream before...and apparently off it. You wanna know what that means? Guess who was an early adopter of things like infantry squares, rifling, skirmish tactics, trenches, and other late-1700s to mid-1800s warfare paradigms? You guys! Of the Niji alliance, I'd say /rose/ is renowned for its infantry, /haha/ for its cavalry, and /nijiKR/ for artillery (since gooks loved massing culverins/muskets historically). You guys plucking grew into a military powerhouse. Based rosefags.

Wouldnt /rose/ have a friendly relationship with /hfz/ because Wosemi loves fighting games?
Maybe /rose/ is the only nation to use magical communication to stream fights from the ARENA

>>19303081
Anon I've been praising the infinity lore time and again, people haven't been complaining that you have military, but rather that your military would be too advanced and give you too much of an edge. clg has used byzantine-based themes and are in line with the global average tech level, from what I've read, unlike having steam, internal combustion engines etc.
In any case, from the discussions in the last thread and this one, you're likely to get your desired tech, though you may need to revise your lore to contain low fantasy elements, as that seems to be the prevailing option as well.

>>19304117
Eh, I won't say they have to contain fantasy elements if they don't want. If anything /infinity/ not having magic can help with the whole balancing thing.

>>19304117
>military would be too advanced and give you too much of an edge
Which is why I support fantasy elements. Steampunk dreadnoughts wont work when you teleport them into the /vsj/ desert

>>19304165
>there's a region in the desert of /vsj/-/voms/ where teleportation weapons usually send their targets to
>this has helped the local tribes of /voms/ to develop technology far beyond their natural level
I love it!
Because of the large number of tech the /voms/ natives probably think this is a gift from their fallen magnet goddess

>>19304155
Yeah, it is optional of course, though they may come up with ideas that they want to add in that contain magic or something, it's up to them
>>19304165
>kronies on an ironclad get teleported in the vsj desert
>they use kronii milk to tame a giant sand worm
>they now have their ironclad mounted on it
What do?

>>19304261
>What do?
Pray

>>19304261
>he thinks mere coom milk can tame the TMSK-Hulud
Heathen!

>>19304261
I like the implication that kronies' first reaction to anything is to use Kronii milk on it

>>19304059
HFZ isn't super far away, and the wind patters would make it easy for them to sale over. Maybe buds just sneak in and don't say anything about it.

>>19287699
Presumably the supply chain goes mostly by sea (faster and less borders) going from KFP, going through Watson, and then ferrying the rest of the way to Nasa by sea, or through /uuu/ if they'd allow it.
Highland KFP Chickiens are probably hardy enough to survive in Nasa since the Highlands are also fairly cold. The south of Nasa can't be THAT cold, right?
I'm tempted to say we'd outsource shipping to the Takodachi, since they're probably more Navally inclined than us, but we don't have any Tako rep, and I won't want to assume things about the Takos when there isn't one here to correct me if I'm wrong.

>>19304379
Here's the boat trip drawn out

>>19304393
Sakuran can offer you passage through the Skyblossom peninsula if you desire, for a small fee of course.

>>19304261
>sand worm with an ironclad attached to it
That's some Kids Next Door level mcgyvering

>>19304494
>Kronies yelling SEEEEEEEEEXXXXXXXXXXXXXX as the Dune takes them around the desert

>>19304393
Maybe there's a continental highway funded by the Emperor of /hlgg/?
I dont think the leader of a HRE styled empire would want to upset its members

CURRENT PROMPTS
>>Clothes, fashion, and uniforms
>Diet, etiquette, ceremonial food
>Entertainment, locap passtimes

Slow night in all my favorite threads...

>>19301228
>>19303004
It's good to write what you know about, though, and what you have written is quite an interesting read (even if I'm never too interested in military stuff myself). That said, you might want to talk about the wars with other parties involved beforehand, unless it's meant more as a War Plan Red thing about a potential war.

'Tis a quiet Moon Day morning at the borders of /meat/ and /hfz/.
The gold armor clad champion stretches his legs and takes in a deep breath. The cavity on his armor exposing his bountiful pecs for the world to see. His titanic figure dominates over the civilian merchant carriage in front of him as he hunch over.
"You are clear to pass, citizen!" his booming voice almost shatter the carriage's window, the driver shaken as he takes back his work papers from the border guard. Signaling his steed, his steeds trot his carriage into /meat/ territory.
The herculean border guard salutes the merchant, for his venture into foreign lands will contribute to trade and commerce. "Have a safe journey, friend! GLORIOUS!". Unbeknownst to him, the frightened merchant whips his horses to go faster, until the lumbering warrior is out of sight.
The guard turns around, even at 4 meters high, he sees not a single carriage on the road. For now he is all alone.
Not quite. There is someone else.
Staring at him just behind the chain-link border gate of /meat/. Their border guard stands at a mere 2 meters, draped in thin armor, cloth, and his face covered with a ritualistic mask.
"Ah! Good morning, friend! I see the merchant was your first visitor for today?" the titanic champion asked the harrowing figure. He nods in agreement. "Ah-ha! Glorious! It's not everyday we'd get this little customers! Just out here in the wilderness, enjoying nature at its greatness!" the muscular border guard kneels on his knee and carefully pets a macaw perching on a tree.
The hooded guard nodded in return, petting the sleeping octo-viper dangling from the wooden roof of his office.
"Say, old friend! It's been a while since we last spar! Now that we are alone, don't you think it's time we stretched these rusted legs of ours?!" the golden guard asks with glee. The hooded guard was taken back by the question. He quickly points to the small lake Northeast of their post. A crater from their last spar.
"Oh that! What's a little spar without some good old COLLATERAL-DAMAGE! Besides! Any destruction of property on my side of the border is compensable... for me!" the valiant titan boasts as he flexes his muscle. The hooded figure slumps in defeat and gave a shaky thumbs up, agreeing to his decision.
"Now tally-ho, friend! Let's not keep the goddesses waiting! What's our wage for today should one of us bend the knee?" he asks. The /meat/ guard opens his cabinet and places a glass jar on his work desk. A jar of
"-BY SLACK! Kronii Milk! That thing is banned in this region! How did you-" before the muscleman could finish, the hooded guard placed a finger gently on his mask where the lips would be.
"Alright. Now put them up, chum! On three! One! Two! Thre-" and before he could finish, a web thorn covered tendrils erupted out of the ground he stood on.
The spar has begun.

>>19302594
>>19302646
I saw that and honestly, I find it really annoying with how hard a lot of people are trying to micromanage and control what /inf/ does to the point there's a whole group that's not /inf/ here that's writing lore for them.
Just sets a really bad precedent in my opinion.

>>19310158
Tbh the lore written about us so far is only by /meat/ and (imo) it's nice.

>>19309637
kek, thanks for the fun read

>>19309637
>Kronii Milk banned in the region
>can't even chug down tiddy milk with the bros and watch scripted gladiators

>>19310200
I saw people trying to micromanage what weapons /inf/ could use, I didn't even see anyone claiming they were from /inf/ either. That sort of behavior could turn prospective representatives off.

>>19304379
Deadbeats are known for business and hospitality

>>19311722
You mean espionage and leaking of sensitive data?

>>19311722
How good are you boats deadfriend

>>19310158
>>19310503
I believe those were supposed to be suggestions for infinity to use. They are simply ideas anons had that, in their opinion, serve balance and/or coolness, and kronies are free to reject them, as they have done.

It's another quiet day as the denizens of /hfz/ continue to toil and labor maintaining the streets and the facilities in preparation for OP's return. Too long has it been since the last show, when the borders of /hfz/ had been opened for tourists. The return of OP happens without warning, announced by the scribes who monitor the sacred texts delivered by blue birds. These sudden proclamations can happen in two weeks, or in two months - which behooves the citizenry to make sure the realm is ready to receive the viewing audience.

A child is sweeping the streets with his father, a man well past his prime and is showing the weathered ruggedness of a man who has lived a full life. He hums as he sweeps the dust and stray leaves on the street, a tune that can be heard softly for anyone roaming the lands.

"I won't give in... I won't give in..."

The child carries the rucksack halfway filled with dead leaves and litter, picking up any spots his father doesn't realize is left unattended to. The child wipes the sweat off his brow under the hot noonday sun and calls the man's attention.

"Father?" he says, stamping down the insides of the sack to make room for more leaves.

The man continues sweeping, "Yes, my son?"

"My friends from /meat/ and /vspo/ told me that the rumblers do not engage in real fights, that it's nothing but theatrics and tomfoolery. Is that true?"

The man pauses, looks at his son and gives the child a smile. "Well, what do you think about the rumblers?"

"The rumblers fight each other all the time, and sometimes they even bleed. They certainly look like they're in pain whenever they face each other in the arena, but I notice that they never seem to have serious injuries after their matches, and when they come out again in the next show, they're always so... pristine looking. Does that mean they're not fighting for real? They're not real warriors?"

The man gives an amused chuckle before continuing to sweep the streets, "That's true. So my next question for you would be, what do you consider to be the 'real fighting' these 'real warriors' do?"

"I've heard stories of great feats from /meat/ raiders and /vspo/ marksmen. They've also got actual trophies and spoils to show for it, everyone else in the realm either respects or fears them... so is that what real fighting is? Being strong or skilled enough that you become the best in the battlefield, driving your enemies before you, and leaving a pile of the casualties in your wake?"

>>19312981
"Indeed, that certainly does seem like what a great warrior would do, wouldn't it?"

"So what of the rumblers then, father?"

The man ushers his son over to a nearby bench to rest. He takes a big breath of the summer breeze as he offers the boy water as a short respite from the day's labor.

"It's true that the rumblers emphasize theatrics and showmanship. That is deliberate. You see, son, when the massive amounts of people come to watch our rumblers fight in the ring, they are not there to witness profound martial skill or fierce athleticism. Just looking at the rumblers tells them that they are already built to be great fighters."

"What we come to the show to witness is the meaning behind the fights in the show the rumblers put for us. Do you remember The Reaper's performance during that one tournament? How she went from the rumbler everyone was sure wouldn't make it past the first round, yet she went out taking the fourth place after a spectacular performance? How about everyone cheering on Rice-su recently after it felt like she was FINALLY going to get her first victory?"

"Son, the rumblers are there to show us what every warrior in history is unable to tell the realm. That to achieve victory, great warriors of this land sacrificed, bled, and suffered for their achievements. We show stories of perseverance, making difficult choices, and striving for success in mastering our craft. We are creatures of stories, son. That is how we advanced as a civilization, stories that shape our morals and virtues and what guides us to go on through our life.

Not everyone can be born with the talent and physique to express their skills as a warrior. However, the virtues the rumblers show in the arena are a universal language. The octopean painter of /hlgg/, the carpenters of /ybc/, they too can appreciate the things they see in our arenas. In fact, even orientals from a faraway place, those that have nothing in common with us, and can't even communicate with us, they continue showing up for our shows. Because they know the importance and the power a good story has. That is why we defend, son. Until the end."

The child purses his lips to one side as he tries to comprehend his father's words.

"Don't overthink it child, you'll understand some day. Now, how about we go back to maintenance, hm?"

>>19304165
>/∞/ has ironclads
>Calling them steampunk dreadnoughts
As a naval buff, you're killing me.

This might be a suggestion for /meat/ but have they considered writing lore exclusively on rentry and keep the threads talking about their vTubers? I think that might be what jannies have beef about.

>>19304379
If the wind is good sea trade shouldn't bee too harsh. We're lucky we got moved closer to the sea. Though we don't really have docks to land. We're going to have to secure proper wood to build docks later. For that we need mining first.

>>19303771
If the thread isn't /nasa/ then its made by a shitposter. This has been the case since the dead dog arch. Ignore those people.

>>19315328
Nah, the pruning has been around since before /vtwbg/ is a thing. That said, I'll consider writing on rentry instead to see if it helps.

>>19309637
>>19312981
>>19313028
Anchoring the nice stories >>19273764

>>19312981
>>19313028
My headcanon is that /hfz/'s fighters fight for real but they have Astartes or Primarch level biology they just regenerate back to normal
Plus the arena fights are not done at full strength because the energy from their actual strength would kill civilians watching the show

>>19303821
>>19304059
Aw shucks, I wasn't expecting help! Thanks guys! I like the idea of being a military powerhouse and doing arena fighting also sounds like a lot of fun! I don't know too much about /hfz/, but I'm sure they're cool!
As a general question, since I'm a bit new, I was wondering if this world only has humans or if there are non-human nations?

>>19316300
Depends on the generals themselves
If your gen have in-jokes and memes about non human characters you can make them into an actual species
/nasa/ did that with bread dogs

>Pop in to check how everything is going
>The timeloop is still going
You know what? I have a solution. We need to put a complete moratorium on all military matters until absolutely everything else is done first since these chuuni fucks can't stop dickwaving over it.

>>19316300
We're kind of discussing it at the end of the last thread (>>19274601), but currently it seems most are in favour of having non-human people.

>>19316445
the timeloop isn't about military, it's about technology

>>19316455
I allow conditional non-humans
They exist but only if it fits the generals lore and memes
Creating one on the spot for the sake of it feels forced compared to something a general joked about for months

>>19316644
How do you feel about /clg/ having anthropomorphic dobermen integrated into all levels of society? They're faster and tougher than humans are, more lean as well. But they need a lot of meat in their diets and they don't live nearly as long. They tend to organize into packs where one human or doberwoman basically gets a reverse harem of, generally, three-to-five males.

>>19316876
Up to the agreement of the general of they like it or not
Also why doberman? Lumi fucks dogs joke?

>>19316876
somehow, that seems no good...

>>19316387
>>19316455
>>19316644
I guess that makes sense, yeah. I was mainly asking because Rosebuds are usually portrayed as plant pig hybrid people, so I didn't know if it was okay to portray them as such here.

>>19316933
>>19316961
Yes. Lumi fucks dogs (specifically dobermans because somebody wrote a fapfic with five of 'em). But since I have to flesh out the meme, we can make it a cultural thing between sapient civilized peoples. These Doberpeople are culturally and genetically descended from the Bubbian tribes of similarly upright-canids from the Watson split's lands; they came as part of the initial wave of settlers. Part of the reason we are so centralized so early is because we needed a way of quickly and efficiently making sure the Doberpeople within our lands could meat the meat/no-cereals requirement of their diets.

>>19312330
Our commerce is primarily made up of independent merchants, but what we might lack in bulk, is made up for in speed, since they're known for traveling all over the world to exchange goods

>>19317095
Alright, i feel this could become easily exploitable and ultimately no good. A bit too much "not human" even, as strange that it sounds.

>>19317023
I suppose if that's how the fans are usually portrayed (especially if it's from the chuuba herself), then you probably won't get many objections over that. That said, it would be a good idea to write more about how they differ from normal humans.

We're getting more visitors than the usual infinimeat duo now
Awesome!

>>19312027
We have a very particular set of skills

what i'm picturing in my head right now regarding /vspo/ is that they would have modern to futuristic grade technology even if we decide to go for a medieval fantasy setting.

they would be balanced by having a massive storm circle encircling their country, making it impossible for them to pass through on even with their technological capabilities.
the only way for them to leave is to board a very small airship with a max capacity of 60 people, and passengers are unable to carry armor/weapons with them due to the load limit on the ship. instead of passengers, these ships might be used for trading and carry loot in boxes.
these airships sacrifice a lot in order to traverse over the storm circle, so they would only be able to travel to neighboring countries.

>>19317968
dear god we haven't even finished the tech timeloop

>>19302594
There is a huge difference between eastern roman military and having ironclads. Thats the issue.

>>19316489
Ya I'm not sure how people are able so easily misrepresent the disagreement

>>19303004
>I really hope somebody else from /clg/ comes in to flesh out our culture, society, civilian history, diet, etc.
I'm not EXTREMELY familiar with /clg/ since i just got into it when gen 2 debuted, but...
>menacefags are also known to be poets, who dedicate poems to their goddess in an attempt to earn her favour
>since they're poets, alchemists, and a coastal land, they harvest and produce high quality ink which they trade with lumifags, the de facto bookkeepers/logisticians
I'll poke through your rentry sooner or later, but idk how much i'll actually contribute b/c newfag.

>>19317968
Well magic materials exist
I propose that /vspo/ is on top of a mgic rich region but they use their skills for gunsmithing instead

>>19318688
>mages in vspo are all gunners

>>19318781
>international magic olympics
>magical archery
>/kfp/ witch summons a fire arrow
>/uuu/ druid orders a vine to penetrate the target
>/clg/ mage sends the target to a pocket dimension to be stabbed like a voodoo doll
>/vspo/ mage just pulls out a WA2000 that fires energy bullets

/vt/ league is coming this week. For participating nations, how big is your divegrass culture?

>>19317968
Personally I'm actually fine with this. You've got your tech aesthetic and advantage but you've made it so that it is functionally useless outside of your country

>>19316387
Bread dogs are not sentient. They are robots programmed to be very tame dogs. So they're like animals instead of people.

>>19319255
No i mean, this feels like the type of power creep that has been tried to be avoided, althought this time they do have actual logistical disadvantages to keep them at bay, the ability to bring forth air supplies even at a severely limited rate negates this quite a bit, and also the world economy would be fucked by the trading of weapons and mechanical parts.
Feels like instead a manufacturing nation filled with gunsmiths and the like could work better. They'd have all sorts of silly experimental weapons that were blueprint only in our world, like more advance versions of Da Vinci's proto tanks and the like.

>>19317968
What's the lore behind airships and your thread?

>>19317968
So airships are fair game?

>>19321343
G Y R O J E T handcannons and actual needle rifles onegai

>>19322052
There was a weapon called the Needle rifle, often regarded as the first modern Bolt Action rifle, which saw large use in the prussian forces during the Brothers war and the Franco-Prussian war. But I think anything involving post-Napoleonic warfare and production methods will see massive issues and pushback in trying to integrate it. 19th century tech, it's production methods, and anything beyond is just hard to integrate

>>19322427
I'm not talking about the Dreyse and its successors, I'm talking about a rifle *that shoots needle-like ammunition* for increased muzzle velo and range.

>>19322561
Oh. That sounds possible for pre-industrial societies and pretty fun actually

>>19317171
Alright bone man, bring take these chickens and gears and bring me my flour.

On a side note, does Nasa have some special wheat that can grow in really cold climate? has to be right?

>>19324131
Hydroponic farms, limited in size and productivity, very inconvenient space in the station, but just enough to stay alive. That would allow you to stay alive until the weather gets warmer

So what's the general consensus of Chuubanite so far? Have we decided on any hard rules? My idea of Chuubanite is that it is a very unstable alchemical element that when combined with other "energies" enhances them. Its used in gunpowder to healing tonics. Just need to put limits on how it can be used and how it loses energy once mined.

>>19324280
I'm not a Sanalite, I'm a KFP namefag buying flour from them.

>>19324338
main issues dealing with the topic of chuubanite is
1. Has not been decided.
2. Many anons have different ideas on what chuubanite should be.
also, fun fact, chuubanite sounds a lot like chuuninite, it's got to be intentional

>>19324412
sorry, i am in a very distracted state of mind

>>19324131
Deep space is very cold. And to conserve energy the station rarely gos higher than 20 degrees celsius. On average the station is between 15 to 18 degrees. If your mountains are cold then we advise growing seeds in the spring and summer, then harvest in the fall.

I did a bit of reading on wheat earlier. It turns out wheat grows best in fairly cool soil. I was seeing when is the best time to grow wheat in the Great Plains of USA.

>>19324338
I've halted working on the updated climate map I've also been looking for stuff regarding resource placement in favor of writing a long proposal for one way how chuubanite could work and what rules and physical laws would limit its use. Please, if you or anyone else have any ideas or wishes for how chuubanite would/should work, do share them so i can get a rough idea on what the thread would like chuubanite to be like and see how well my own ideas would go with them.

The starting assumption I have is that chuubanite shouldn't be too dominant of a thing in the setting. The world would be a low-magic fantasy one.
>>19324578
thats 100% coincidental
>>19324639
Deep space also isn't very conductive to heat so that shouldn't be that much of a problem unless you are flying through cold gas clouds or something I guess.

>>19324578
0ne thing I advocate for Chuubanite to be is a resource. Whatever you use Chuubanite for it will be spent. When you dig it up it has to be refined quickly into a stable form or you will lose it. Because its unstable if you crack the purer stuff then it could explode and vaporize everything. I can only write bits at a time adjusting limits based on tech level.

>>19325243
So "magic coal+" basically

>>19324787
The thing that sucks about magic at any level is that it relies on suspension of disbelief. Some things have to be left unexplained. Otherwise if you have to explain everything then it stops being magic. I'm not sure how prominent alchemy is in the 1700's. We could start with alchemy, which is the basis of magitech.

>>19325328
Or petrol, or uranium, or any fuel source really. It has stable and unstable forms. I see it as Lithium or Hydrogen, elements that bond with other elements. Stable Chuubanite would be it bonding with metal, plant saps, living organisms, water, etc. The unstable stuff is purer because its looking for something to bond with. You obviously don't want to touch it with your bare hands because it will bond with your hands producing heat thar melts your hands. Its also unstable in a way where if enough of it cracks then the potential energy just explodes from the crystal structures.

>>19325533
>The thing that sucks about magic at any level is that it relies on suspension of disbelief.
which is why making the magic system well defined and consistent is an extremely important thing to do. Nothing kills the suspension of disbelief quite as well as inconsistencies.
>We could start with alchemy, which is the basis of magitech.
This is essentially what im working on. Defining chuubanite interactions for magitech purposes.

>>19325942
>Defining chuubanite interactions for magitech purposes.
Or more accurately, writing a proposal for ONE way of doing this,

>>19325942
This is a start. >>19325889 Its unstable and always looks for things to bond with. Whatever it bonds with it should "enhance" whatever it bonds to. Bonding with gunpowder makes stronger gunpowder. Bonding with steel makes lighter and stronger metal. As long as you know what you're doing. In Rushia's former land you get swarms of undead roaming the land. Without something to lead them fandeads became mindless zombies. Obviously we need to refine the limits in due time.

>>19325533
Alchemy in the 1700s was dying down, because at that time natural mineral science was really starting to kick off.
Very early chemists (Antoine Lavoiser, Henry Cavendish, Joseph Priestly, Carl Scheele) were doing research about now. This is when nitrogen and hydrogen were discovered (for reference the periodic table was made in the 1800s).
Alchemy was more of a medieval thing. In the 1700s, people generally knew science was a thing and that witches and alchemists weren't real, but people could also be superstitious.

>>19327229
Superstitions laster for far, far longer, but it is true that the earliest truly scientific academia has emerged in latter half of XVIIIth century. That being said, it was definitely not common knowledge, nor commonly accepted - the closest it got to mainstream at the time was during the French Revolution where Cult of Reason was pushed forward.

>>19327393
Ah, thanks for the clarification. I usually have my nose in science books more than history books.

>>19327716
Me too, but I supplement the science books with books on the history of science. Also, Clocks?

>>19327716
Personally, having studied history also meant studying science and more specifically it's development and impact, it's things that are related directly to each other.

>>19328008
Good try but that one is not me. I am in the reply chain though.

>>19328740
Yeah, I figured, that's why I thought it was you. But the other post in the chain was a freebie.

>>19328817
Punked. This is the first worldbuilding thread I'm participating in, so I have nothing practical to add to worldbuilding until I lurk moar.
I also like history, but I'm sort of inexperienced, though.
>>19328367
True. I tend to stop at the superficial stuff due to lack of context though. I loved the history of the Haber-Bosch process when I heard about it, but only came to realize its impact a year or two later when I was taking a sustainability course in university.

All these history and science buffs while I'm an uneducated idiot.

Naval Buff anon here, the fears about steamships are completely overblown, especially if the the ones in this game are based on early models.
First, I am working under the assumption that the main purpose of nautical travel in this world is trade.

The main stay of most trading fleets in the 18th century would be an East Indiaman (Although there was no set size for these) or the Galleon. They would all be Full-rigged regardless. The average speed of these ships would be 7-10 knots depending on conditions.
The first steamboats used paddlewheels and because of their size and power, were relegated to lake, river and sometimes coastal travel. As steam technology was improved, and became more reliable, they were applied to larger, ocean-worthy ships. These ships could operate between 8-10 knots in normal conditions.
However, the early ocean-worthy steamships were hybrids, both a sailing ship and steamer, because they could not carry enough fuel and only used the steam engine during calm weather, and were not able to use the sails to produce enough speed. There is also another reason why early steamships made for poor trading ships. The engine and fuel required to run it would take up a majority of room in the ship's hold, and there would not be enough space remaining to carry commercial cargo . Whereas a sailing ship does not require an engine, nor fuel to run it, so it can maximize space in it's hold. There is also the issue of operational distance, because a steamship would need to either be able to make a trip and return to its home port, or find a friendly port that has coal to refuel.
So even though steamships are less dependent on wind patterns, they are not in any way game breaking to the world economy due to the fact they run at similar speeds and are resource hungry.

/nasa/ unfortunately does not have the infrastructure to build ships. We barely have enough people to farm with our machines. And when the machines break they're scrap metal. We could comission a port to be built with enough money. However its likely that whoever we can comission to build the port will also want the land. Which means /nasa/ will need to consider if its worth building the port ourselves or to sell the land. But then /nasa/ doesn't know if the world considers them invaders or not. We might not even have claim to the land we crashed in the first place.

A good chunk of /nasa/'s station hull is steel, titanium, and aluminium alloy. /nasa/ cannot make warships nor trade ships without people and machines. However I was wondering if it would be acceptable to hammer together some small fishing boats out of aluminium scrap. They won't have engines. They'll have small sails and paddles. As long as it floats it works for fishing. If /nasa/ does wind up making a port then they would make wood frame aluminium ships. They should be light enough to sail and be versatile enough to retrofit motors later on. They'd still be too light for steam tech. Of course aluminium trade ships aren't happening for at least 3-5 years. Fishing boats are possible by hand.

>>19331694
Not /infinity/, but thanks for the input!
Since you're here, would you mind me asking about the state of naval boarding during the aforementioned period? I know it's not commonly done by non-privateers at the time, and part of it has to do with advancements in ship-bound artillery, so means (including potentially magical ones) to mitigate those issues would be quite interesting and of use for me.

>>19317968
As >>19321343 said, I think the airships might be a bit too much, although I also have a bit of issues with modern and future armory. Would you consider what >>19318688 and >>19321343 suggested? A country of master gunsmiths who make use of magic (or chuubanite or other magical resources) to make weapons more advanced than others seem nice, and it can come with the potential drawback of a rather low production rate, and perhaps incompatibility in parts and ammunition as well. A supply issue like that would be in line with the limit originally proposed in your post, at the same time removing the need for the stormy borders which I personally find a bit weird.

lib

it would be nice if we can get a tectonic analysis soon, so that we can decide on what mundane resources we have

>>19324338
I would say currently the rules are a bit nebulous, so we don't really get a full picture of what chuubanite's supposed to be like apart from it benefitting from chuuba's energy (?) and that it can be used to power some kind of magic/magitech.

>>19325889
>>19326277
Sounds a lot like Tiberium, but presumably less mutagenic. Thoughts on how much enhancement chuubanite infusion can cause? What about more active use? >>19325243 indicates that the purer form can be used as explosive, but I'm not sure if it's meant to be stable enough for that use, and is there a way to isolate chuubanite from bound stuff?

>>19336799
/nasa/ might be the only country that has knowledge on how to isolate unstable elements from materials when they rebuild their infrastructure. And that's only because of their experience manipulating subatomic particles via nuclear fission and fusion. You can purify the ore to get a higher concentrated material with mundane means, but its not the pure "element". As Chuubanite in its true form is most likely plasma.

>>19337107
Sounds reasonable. Does that mean chuubanite is pretty much limited to its passive enhancement effects instead of anything active like traditional magic?

>>19337107
Have to clarify. Just because /nasa/ has experience with subatomic particles does not make them masters of studying the element. Hell I'm going to go as far as /nasa/ studying Chuubanite caused the crash because the lab exploded and took half the station.

>>19337455
If you want to make a bomb out of this stuff then you need WWII technology at least. That's way too far ahead in our timeline. Using Chuubanite as an element to enhance the physical and spiritual aspects of our world is what I'm going for. Especially if our world lacks fossil fuels.

>>19337560
I like that idea kek

>>19337953
Sounds about right. I guess it can still be used to make better explosives by binding it with gunpowder. Do you think it will be too much if something like that allows said explosives to dish out effects beyond pain? Not necessarily chemical weapon-tier, but maybe something more in line with tear gas, smoke bombs and the Alex Jones gay bombs.

>>19338217
To answer your magic question you can make "powered circuits" via wires of this stuff. Shamans could use the dust to "cast a spell" in runes by making a circuit with the dust that interacts with the components to make a "miracle". When what you're doing is connecting the circuits in a way that makes the stuff react to the way you want. If this idea needs to be nerfed then let me know. Because this could be how /rbc/'s prosthetics can work.

Chuubanite is also unique that it bonds with both living and non-living things.

>>19302593
So is this "Great Split" our version of the biblical flood, with things that happened on /jp/ being literally antediluvian?

>>19331694
Thanks for the input, naval buff. May I ask your opinion on infinity having early model ironclads that use delicate clockwork inside? They'd be unable to venture into the ocean, and the clockwork internals might be damaged from repeated enemy fire. Is that balanced if most of the world is still in the exploration of enlightenment age?

>>19331694
From what i remember, Gunboats (which would be a "hybrid" ship) were proposed as an alternative to Ironclads, for you see, the issue is very directly related to the Ironclads and tech relating to these invincible weapons. The economy would suffer more from the existance of an Industrial nation in a non industrial world than from changes in shipping

>>19341116
>>19341686
How could clockwork gunboats work? I can see gunboats have loaded barrels that rotate with clockwork. It gives /infinity/ faster fire that would destroy ships in their sights. Then you reload the guns while hunting the next ship. If you're in a hurry you can load two chambers instead of four or less.

>>19344620
I think it's meant more as a means to store up energy for powering the ship (as a replacement to steam engine).

>>19344620
>How could clockwork gunboats work
honestly, dunno, the gunboats were offered so that they didn't have to go for clockwork ironclads.
As a power source, it'd require a lot of manpower to keep it up thought, the design is one of those things that could be explained away by a "don't worry about it bro"

>>19345005
>>19345181
I like the idea of trading defense for offense.

>>19273764
/nasa/ Principal's Log:
We managed to till the fields for wheat as planned. The soil is naturally fertile so no fertilizer will be needed. It has been two weeks since Sana broadcasted. Because of this morale has been lower than usual. Fewer people have been showing up to services for Sana. It seems the Mozzies have taken control of communications again. I did all that I could for our goddess. However if we don't get a signal soon then our station will further drown in despair. Alcoholism is on the rise. We had to put alcohol on restricted consumption to help prevent Sanalites drinking on the job.

We've managed to recover a good piece of the station's hull. We can use the station's power to heat up the aluminium alloy to fold it into fishing boats. While we do not have a solution for steel or titanium yet we can still work aluminium for building materials. Prospecting is not going as well as we hoped. It seems most of our metal will have to be recovered from scrap.

While we still have tasks to do work has taken a plunge. Many of us are lost without Sana. And many workers, myself included, has taken more days off than we should with video games, music, film, and other media. There are some days where even I do not feel the need to play games. While I have my faithful bread dog to pet in comfort I still feel like I am a failure for not bringing /nasa/ what it needs. But what /nasa/ needs most is Sana's broadcast.

>>19347758
sanalites

While all of you are busy strengthening naval forces, we'll start installing french grand cannons along the coastline

>>19348977
/nasa/ will most likely not last another month if Sana doesn't stream. If the general dies off completely then the territory will open as ruins for anyone to seize.

>>19349456
Then again, won't /nasa/ get revived if Sana streams again? It's not like Sana's graduating or anything (I hope).

>>19349456
It seems most likely to me that they'd just become dormant and stagnate but be reinvigorated once she streams

>>19350873
>>19350091
I'm going to have to stop writing for /nasa/ for a while. I'll still be here to discuss Chuubanite and general tech stuff. I do have to ask will there be any objections to /nasa/ making small aluminium boats for fishing?

>>19351552
I can't think of any especially as it involves cannibalizing your station. I think thats great idea actually

>>19351641
If the boats are steel then there would be an objection because we lost our blast furnaces in the factories. The station should have enough power to heat aluminium alloy enough to fold and mend it. I'm bending the rules a bit for aluminium alloy. But its not like we're making modern cargo ships with working motors.

Hell there might not be any petrol on this planet. Which means we have to make fuel from Chuubanite. Which such fuel will take years of research to make even with tablet computers.

>>19352026
>tablet computers.
I'm now envisioning nasa as a Stargate team kind of like stargate Atlantis going to investigate and being stuck on foreign world

>>19352471
They were expecting to land in a tropical island full of toilet paper trees. Not Russia.

lot of cannibalism talk this Gura stream, I immediately thought of the /meat/bros

>>19349456
>>19347758
moral may be low, but dealing with the raiders from the schizo wastes can give purpose. Sana will stream again. She MUST speak to us again.

>>19355238
If chuubanite is powered by streams, is that why you guys ran out of fuel in the middle of the voyage?

>>19341686
>>19341116
I'm not sure how a clockwork ironcald would work, but if you're talking about early ironclads from the American Civil War. Those are not game breaking at all.
While against normal wooden ships, they have a distinct advantage with their armor, they have many drawbacks. The biggest being that they have extremely low freeboards (The waterline to the upper deck level) which meant they were not ocean worthy as the ocean waves would swamp the ship. (In fact, this is what sank the USS Monitor.) As a result, ironclads were restricted to inter-coastal waterways (rivers and lakes) and coastlines. And while the ironclad are heavily armored, the hull below the waterline was still wood. Making them extremely vulnerable to torpedoes and mines as the heavy armor would become a liability in sinking the ironclad faster if there was a hull breach. (This happened with the CSS Albemarle)
There's also the fact they were slow, with the Casemate ironclad moving at only 4-5 knots, so they could not be used as interceptors and would need to be at or close to a battle to be able to influence the outcome.
A better way to describe the early ironclads is that they were less ships, and more steam-powered heavy batteries.
The only variable for world building I'd consider is that ironclads used screw propellers instead of paddlers, however at this time, even screw propeller steamships were still hybrids for the aforementioned drawbacks mentioned in the previous post.
I would say early ironclads are balanced if people are worried about them taking over the world. Most of them would just sink the moment they hit inclement weather while on the open ocean.

>>19333473
Navel boarding tactics were relatively simple where you either using grappling hooks and lines to keep the ships side by side to jump over, or you'd use various small boats to ferry your boarding party over. But the close quarter fighting was brutal and included everything from firearms, blades and grenades. As you mentioned, boarding during the 18th century was common for commerce raiding where privateers were given prize money from bringing in enemy merchant ships and their cargo intact. It was also used for capturing enemy ships during times of war if the weren't already being scuttled to avoid capture.

>>19359811
Thank you, naval buff, that helps a lot!

>>19345539
So do we get a triangle system?

>>19319095
/myteam/ has a pretty sizeable divegrass fanbase. They aren't the largest or the most passionate, but they are always happy to support the team. The team isn't in a good place for official matches right now, but the manager is hoping to go far in the upcoming league.

>>19319095
/hfz/ is pretty hype about it but foul luck has befallen the superiors.

>>19367042
Funny way of saying OP jobbed

>>19367451
It's more like the manager broke his arm. Also the streams are not coming as fast as they used to.

>rrat peddler prepares for sweet slumber
>looks at the night sky
>inhales deeply
>feel the wind
>"this calm is expected but there is a scheme stirring hidden within it" mused the rrat
>putting the thought behind, he sleeps for the day to deal with that is yet to pass.

Just to be clear, are steamships with sails alright?

>>19359811
>>19331694
Wow, why were people against including these?

>>19359811
I assume that naval boarding fell out of favour at the time because warships were becoming better and better-armed, so trying to board without being obliterated by salvo got harder and harder. (did scuttling become easier as well?)
Do you think there are things we should take into account if we want to have a naval force focused on naval boarding tactics in this period? Like what kinds of ships would be most suitable, and if there are some possibilities that magic can mitigate the drawback that phased out naval boarding in battles IRL?

>>19369769
Like this, Anon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doterel-class_sloop

>>19369963
simply: because people did not know
Its great we have the naval buff here now

>>19370767
This
I was coming around on ironclads anyway but that sealed it. I do still think it'd be cooler if they were made with specialised clockwork that'd be impossible to reverse engineer but infinity didn't seem to like the idea

My name was Takeus Longclock, enlightened scribe of Infinity. My search for knowledge led me from nation to nation, from kingdoms to empires, far from home. It was in the last place I expected, amongst so called barbarians, that I found the answer to divinity itself.

It is in the flesh. It is in the blood. The bone. The sinew. When I came home to my motherland, when I heard the ticking of a thousand clocks as my sloop neared the shore, I felt a fire in my heart. I had learned so much while I was away, and it was finally time to teach my brothers and sisters the way to the light.

I had not realized those who now ran Infinity were so keen on keeping us in the dark. When I made portfall, an inspector searched my ship, demanding to see my manifest and everything I carried with me. Indignant, I explained I was a celebrated courstman, a scholar, that this was beneath me, but he paid me no mind. He took one look at my cargo, that blessed wine and meat, and asked me for my permits. Since when did we need permits for personal belongings? Before I knew it, I was being dragged out by armed thugs, through my own city's like I was a common crook.

I was thrown into a communal cell with some lowlifes, and for hours I clung to the bars and demanded to see the chief scribe. He could clear my name. They know I'm on an important mission, I needed to spread the good word! The schizoronies in the cell with me laughed at my vain attempts, but they were an ignorant bunch. What could they know of my quest? It wasn't until evening that more guards came, pulling me out of that cell. I thought they had come to free me.

I was wrong. The guards said nothing as they dragged me out and down the stone hall, past increasingly harrowing sights of dilapidated cells and emaciated prisoners. When I asked what was happening, the look of disgust in their eyes and the snarl on their lips told me everything I needed to know.

They figured out where I got the veal and the wine. And they were going to imprison me for it.

Such ignorance.

>>19369769
>>19370570
For the sake of balance, make sure they have wooden hulls so cannon fire can still cause damage.

>>19369769
You'd have to have access to the technology and resources required. Most of the world is mid 18th century in technology, and countries like /infinity/ are gimped by resources and a desire to remain isolationist, which keeps them from conquering other countries for resources.

Concept for a /meat/ soldier and his semi-living musket

>>19371370
I was thrown haphazardly into the cold flagstone floor of a dimly lit cell, all to my lonesome. I said nothing as they shut and locked the iron door, heavier and more secure than the one I was previously held behind. Was this my fate? To waste away in the dark corner of this prison, never to share what I've learned? Was this the reward for my quest? What has happened to my home, once the bright beacon of knowledge and learning?

I waited hours in the dim hole they locked me in, silent and waiting. I do not know what I was waiting for, but I waited all the same. I could hear the opening and closing and locking of iron gates, the distant footsteps of the enforcers, and I tried to listen if they'd come closer. They never did, not until the pitch black night with only the moonlight slipping past the bars of my cell to illuminate what little I could see.

Footsteps, heavy. More than one person. The jingling of keys. It came closer and closer. A part of me prepared to lunge at whoever it was that was coming, to sink my teeth into his neck and worship the heavens one last time before the enforces rain bullets on me. Footsteps. Closer, closer. Stopped. Unlocking. My heart was beating out of my chest. The steel dragged across the stone, opening to reveal a cloaked and hooded figure with two guards behind him. He waved them off, and if the guards had any objections to leaving an unarmed man alone with, what they assumed to be, a wild cannibal barbarian, they didn't voice them. As soon as that door closed behind them, it was just me, and that mysterious figure.

Truth be told, I did not have the courage to fly at him, to fight, to kill. I stayed seated on that stone, trying to see his features in the dark, under his hood.

"You've been gone a long time, Takeus," he told me. He kept his hands behind his back, looking formal. I think I could see the insignia of the scribe brotherhood on his cloak.

"Do I know you?" I asked, voice neutral. He knew my name, and appeared to be a learned man like myself. Perhaps he was here to help.

"I'm but a humble scribe, like yourself," he said with a playful tone. "I heard of your return and came as quick as I can... I'm sorry for the lack of hospitality. Infinity has changed since you were last here. All these new laws, permits, licenses... But you're not just being kept here for not having permits. You know that, right?"

I swallowee a ball of spit. So my suspicions were true. Was this an interrogation? I kept my mouth shut and kept my eyes trained on the floor, but the scribe kept talking.

"Takeus, you've made contact with some... very interesting peoples. Cultures that the government is quite interested in. Do you remember the Ourobros?"

I looked up at him, immediately recognizing the name. "The apostates? Those heretics who spit on our culture?" When I was last here, the Ourobros were a fringe group of schizos who decried the ways of our Takeshi ancestors, and called for a reform in the worship of the Kroniissiah.

"The very same," the scribe said with a nod. "They've become bolder. More... organized." He tilted his head to the side before continuing. "They've stolen an ironclad and tore up half of the Schizotraz. It's chaos in the correction facilities."

"By the Kroniissiah," I muttered. Word of the happenings of Infinity did not leave its shores, and so I expected some changes to surprise me. But never this. "How did they even steal one of our most guarded ships?"

The scribe completely sidestepped my question. "We managed to fire at the stolen ship enough to disable the clockwork engine and immobilize it. But it's still essentially a fortress guarding the coast of Schizotraz. Yes, we could keep firing at it until it's smithereens... but command wants that ship back in one piece."

I wait in silence for him to continue. How does any of this relate to me or my journey.

"They want to have you corrected, you know. They think you're a schizo that needs to be fixed. I imagine you've had a taste of... things we consider taboo. I imagine you want to continue that lifestyle without the zealots that now run our home to force you to change. If you help me, I can make sure people look away."

"... Who *are* you?" I ask the mysterious figure.

"I told you, I'm a scribe," he responded with a chuckle. "But it is not important either way. I'm offering you a chance to help Infinity with the knowledge you've acquired, and in return a chance to live in the new ways you've come to appreciate unfettered. Do you accept?"

...

>>19371370
>>19372419
F for Takeus; he was too ahead of his time. At least he is not completely alone.

>>19372211
Personally, not too sure about the semi-living musket and the mask. I think it would make more sense for /meat/ to use (inorganic) white arms to better control the damage dealt. I also think it's better to stick with human face mask than jade? mask myself.

>>19273710
>>19273764
All three maps are missing /∞/ island.

We do have an updated wind and ocean current map

>>19372537
It's inspired by Aztec turquoise mosaic masks. So it's more formal than just wearing a human face

>>19372641
>>19273710
>>19273764
And their biomes/climate unless the new currents have changed things.

>>19372684

>>19372684
Why would /meat/ consider non-human face mask to be more formal than human face mask, though?

>>19372766
Not him but maybe it's psychological warfare? A lot of tribes wear masks to scare their enemies

>>19372865
Yes, but at the same time, it's hard to argue that it would be scarier than an actual human face as mask.

>>19372865
true, but that was the point of the face masks to begin with. maybe coloring them makes them more recognizable from afar, but it hits a bit different to know that your battle brothers flesh is draped across your enemies body like any other piece of clothing to wear. we'll talk more about it in the thread at least until it dies

>>19372915
>>19372766
I mean just look at it

>>19373087

>>19373172
DEPLOY THE SECOND KIGURUMI PLATOON!!!

>>19373218
Aye-aye, sir!

>>19372419
It was snowy, so far up north. I knew the snow never stopped falling here, at least that hadn't changed since I was last at Schizotraz. The waters ahead led us to the immobile ironclad, guns pointing to the shore of Infinity. The schizos were holding the nearest towns hostage, under threat of cannon fire. But never be the one to take the schizo at his word that he won't change his mind. Our boat glided silently across the cold waters effortlessly, silently, as did all the boats behind ours. I was never a combatant before, but I cannot lie and say I was not looking forward to this with a nervous glee.

"We're close. I see a few guards," the burly man said behind me in his native accent. I could see a schizoronie in the stolen uniform of an enforcer, carrying a rifle and standing guard at the bow of the ship. With a nod of the man's head, an arrow whizzed by before sticking itself into the guards neck, felling him instantly. My only complaint was that I was not able to hear the song of his death gurgle.

The men in their thick leathers and furs took the last swigs of their Kronii Milk, generously donated by my anonymous benefactor. I could already see them become more invigorated by it's holy properties. The captain spoke to the others in their native tongue, in hushed tones. When our boat was close enough, men began to swing grappling hooks on ropes up to the ship, and began climbimg it effortlessly. I double checked that my pistol was loaded before joining them. In the dead of the night, it was too dark to see us. It was too quiet to see us. When I saw their leader, his eyes transfixed to the stars, I took aim. The poor sod was possessed by the spirit of the Jesse, I was doing him a favor...

My shot rung out like lightning from the goddess. He clutched his chest and stumbled back, as the captain drew out his axe and whooped a war cry. The meat barbarians have come, and they were hungry. A guard turned and was met with a knife in his gut, twisting and disemboweling him. The slosh of his organs against the floor of the deck was muffled by his scream. Another guard took aim at the nearest barbarian and loosed a bullet at him... Then another... He loaded a third but was interrupted by an axe in his cranium. The barbarian paid no mind to his injuries, simply licking the axehead and moving unto the next target. Screams filled the night sky, drowned out by the merriment of the foreign warriors. The waters of Schizotraz ran red. Their hunger was satiated.

As for myself, I walked up to the fallen leader, hands shaking with excitement. He sat with ragged breath, calling for help that did not come. I drew my carving knife, the one gifted to me by the priestess of the meatheads, as I approached. I believe he soiled himself as I came closer, as he begged for mercy. I was so excited to get to work, I had neglected to slit his throat first like I was supposed to. He struggled for all he was worth as i slid the blade under his cheek, screaming and drowning in blood as I carved off his face. It was not easy, and I was embarrassed at my poor work when I was done. Only when I held his face in my hands did I realize he yet lived - I promply fixed that with the blade through his forehead.

I arose, delighted even at my shabby work. Rough around the edges, but good enough for a first try. I'll have plenty of opportunity to try again, now that I serve Infinity in this new and exciting venture. I placed the face down unto my own, a flesh mask to terrify the enemies of my nation.

The screaming in the ship died down as the shanty songs grew louder. I knew we had succeeded. I turned to look at the victorious crowd, and the warriors all applauded my transformation. Funny, wearing this mask of another's face, I felt like it was the first time showing my true self.

As we descended from the ironclad and jumped down to the schizos entrenched in Schizotraz, to the screams of terror of the traitors before us, I sang alongside the meatheads. I was one of them. This is who I am.

My name was Takeus Longclock. But now, I am Meatronie.

(End log)

>>19372419
was snowy, so far up north. I knew the snow never stopped falling here, at least that hadn't changed since I was last at Schizotraz. The waters ahead led us to the immobile ironclad, guns pointing to the shore of Infinity. The schizos were holding the nearest towns hostage, under threat of cannon fire. But never be the one to take the schizo at his word that he won't change his mind. Our boat glided silently across the cold waters effortlessly, silently, as did all the boats behind ours. I was never a combatant before, but I cannot lie and say I was not looking forward to this with a nervous glee.

"We're close. I see a few guards," the burly man said behind me in his native accent. I could see a schizoronie in the stolen uniform of an enforcer, carrying a rifle and standing guard at the bow of the ship. With a nod of the man's head, an arrow whizzed by before sticking itself into the guards neck, felling him instantly. My only complaint was that I was not able to hear the song of his death gurgle.

The men in their thick leathers and furs took the last swigs of their Kronii Milk, generously donated by my anonymous benefactor. I could already see them become more invigorated by it's holy properties. The captain spoke to the others in their native tongue, in hushed tones. When our boat was close enough, men began to swing grappling hooks on ropes up to the ship, and began climbimg it effortlessly. I double checked that my pistol was loaded before joining them. In the dead of the night, it was too dark to see us. It was too quiet to see us. When I saw their leader, his eyes transfixed to the stars, I took aim. The poor sod was possessed by the spirit of the Jesse, I was doing him a favor...

My shot rung out like lightning from the goddess. He clutched his chest and stumbled back, as the captain drew out his axe and whooped a war cry. The meat barbarians have come, and they were hungry. A guard turned and was met with a knife in his gut, twisting and disemboweling him. The slosh of his organs against the floor of the deck was muffled by his scream. Another guard took aim at the nearest barbarian and loosed a bullet at him... Then another... He loaded a third but was interrupted by an axe in his cranium. The barbarian paid no mind to his injuries, simply licking the axehead and moving unto the next target. Screams filled the night sky, drowned out by the merriment of the foreign warriors. The waters of Schizotraz ran red. Their hunger was satiated.

As for myself, I walked up to the fallen leader, hands shaking with excitement. He sat with ragged breath, calling for help that did not come. I drew my carving knife, the one gifted to me by the priestess of the meatheads, as I approached. I believe he soiled himself as I came closer, as he begged for mercy. I was so excited to get to work, I had neglected to slit his throat first like I was supposed to. He struggled for all he was worth as i slid the blade under his cheek, screaming and drowning in blood as I carved off his face. It was not easy, and I was embarrassed at my poor work when I was done. Only when I held his face in my hands did I realize he yet lived - I promply fixed that with the blade through his forehead.

I arose, delighted even at my shabby work. Rough around the edges, but good enough for a first try. I'll have plenty of opportunity to try again, now that I serve Infinity in this new and exciting venture. I placed the face down unto my own, a flesh mask to terrify the enemies of my nation.

The screaming in the ship died down as the shanty songs grew louder. I knew we had succeeded. I turned to look at the victorious crowd, and the warriors all applauded my transformation. Funny, wearing this mask of another's face, I felt like it was the first time showing my true self.

As we descended from the ironclad and jumped down to the schizos entrenched in Schizotraz, to the screams of terror of the traitors before us, I sang alongside the meatheads. I was one of them. This is who I am.

My name was Takeus Longclock. But now, I am Meatronie. Now, I am myself.

(End log)

>>19373297
Sir! The Kigurumi Platoon has infiltrated the enemy hierachy! They'll have no idea what hit them!

>>19372419
It was snowy, so far up north. I knew the snow never stopped falling here, at least that hadn't changed since I was last at Schizotraz. The waters ahead led us to the immobile ironclad, guns pointing to the shore of Infinity. The schizos were holding the nearest towns hostage, under threat of cannon fire. But never be the one to take the schizo at his word that he won't change his mind. Our boat glided silently across the cold waters effortlessly, silently, as did all the boats behind ours. I was never a combatant before, but I cannot lie and say I was not looking forward to this with a nervous glee.

"We're close. I see a few guards," the burly man said behind me in his native accent. I could see a schizoronie in the stolen uniform of an enforcer, carrying a rifle and standing guard at the bow of the ship. With a nod of the man's head, an arrow whizzed by before sticking itself into the guards neck, felling him instantly. My only complaint was that I was not able to hear the song of his death gurgle.

The men in their thick leathers and furs took the last swigs of their Kronii Milk, generously donated by my anonymous benefactor. I could already see them become more invigorated by it's holy properties. The captain spoke to the others in their native tongue, in hushed tones. When our boat was close enough, men began to swing grappling hooks on ropes up to the ship, and began climbimg it effortlessly. I double checked that my pistol was loaded before joining them. In the dead of the night, it was too dark to see us. It was too quiet to see us. When I saw their leader, his eyes transfixed to the stars, I took aim. The poor sod was possessed by the spirit of the Jesse, I was doing him a favor...

My shot rung out like lightning from the goddess. He clutched his chest and stumbled back, as the captain drew out his axe and whooped a war cry. The meat barbarians have come, and they were hungry. A guard turned and was met with a knife in his gut, twisting and disemboweling him. The slosh of his organs against the floor of the deck was muffled by his scream. Another guard took aim at the nearest barbarian and loosed a bullet at him... Then another... He loaded a third but was interrupted by an axe in his cranium. The barbarian paid no mind to his injuries, simply licking the axehead and moving unto the next target. Screams filled the night sky, drowned out by the merriment of the foreign warriors. The waters of Schizotraz ran red. Their hunger was satiated.

As for myself, I walked up to the fallen leader, hands shaking with excitement. He sat with ragged breath, calling for help that did not come. I drew my carving knife, the one gifted to me by the priestess of the meatheads, as I approached. I believe he soiled himself as I came closer, as he begged for mercy. I was so excited to get to work, I had neglected to slit his throat first like I was supposed to. He struggled for all he was worth as i slid the blade under his cheek, screaming and drowning in blood as I carved off his face. It was not easy, and I was embarrassed at my poor work when I was done. Only when I held his face in my hands did I realize he yet lived - I promply fixed that with the blade through his forehead.

I arose, delighted even at my shabby work. Rough around the edges, but good enough for a first try. I'll have plenty of opportunity to try again, now that I serve Infinity in this new and exciting venture. I placed the face down unto my own, a flesh mask to terrify the enemies of my nation.

The screaming in the ship died down as the shanty songs grew louder. I knew we had succeeded. I turned to look at the victorious crowd, and the warriors all applauded my transformation. Funny, wearing this mask of another's face, I felt like it was the first time showing my true self.

As we descended from the ironclad and jumped down to the schizos entrenched in Schizotraz, to the screams of terror of the traitors before us, I sang alongside the meatheads. I was one of them. This is who I am.

My name was Takeus Longclock. But now, I am Meatronie. Now, I am myself.

(End log)

Fuck me if we have a general that unironically wears kigs into battle! I'll behead myself with my own dagger before I get caught by them!

>>19371370
>>19372419
>>19373461
He has finally embraced it. One of us! One of us!
Also >>19273764 for archiving purpose

Nasa lore with other generals
>I travelled with people from different cultures and we had a discussion on our origins and theology
Infinity lore with other generals
>I became a cannibal and wiped out the heretics with the bros

>>19374671
lol.

>>19374671
>They were expecting to land in a tropical island full of toilet paper trees. Not Russia.
This is the diverging point I reckon. Things might get significantly different for /nasa/ if they landed in /meat/ and meet with the locals instead...

>>19374800
I wonder how spaceman tastes.

>>19273764
Writing something for /voms/ while they're away

The hooves of his steed clopped over the rocks and sand. The gate to the city is just up ahead! The towers and roofs in sight. A sight that sent him into joy and focus. He whizzed past by the caravans and the guards. This is no time for formalities. Quickly he rode straight towards the hill in the middle of the city, where the Pika Palace lie.

On his throne sat the leader of the local Emirate. The Ba'al Emir of the Bani Pika. His eyes set upon the messenger as he scurry up the throne room's flight of stairs. The Ba'al stands up, acknowledging the presence of the messenger. The royal guards ready their spears in case this frenzied man starts doing anything suspicious. Dropping his bag aside, the messenger bowed on his knees to the Ba'al. Begging for him to listen to his word.

The Ba'al glances at the sobbing man and hand signals the guards to lower their weapons. Immediately demanding the messenger of his hasty presence in his court. The messenger instantly grabs his bag and pulls out an item wrapped in cloth.

"This came... from the Corpse, Your Excellence..." he nervously mutters the words out of his lips they were barely proper language. Slowly he unwraps the object. With a layer of cloth uncovered, the gleam of metal reflects light into the throne room. The Ba'al's eyes widened in astonishment.

The item is a fascinating contraption, a collection of metallic parts, gears, and non-standard artisanship. Akin to that of a clock, but far more complex in nature. The previous discoveries from the Corpse had greatly contributed to the advancement of his Emirate. The Ba'al is already eager to attain this new discovery. Quickly, he orders his men to form an excavation party, food and water, horses and soldiers, scholars and equipment. They will move by sunset tomorrow.

***

It has been two days of travel and they finally reached the valley. The Corpse of Monoe, as the locals named it. How such a name came to be was chronicled with great care. It was barely a decade ago, the sands suddenly flooded with rain. Tornadoes ravaged the land, and entire mountains struck by lightning. Overnight, priests and astrologers screamed in pain, the Ba'al Imam of the Imperial Capital collapsed in despair.

The Elohima of Metal, Jitomi Monoe, was slain and fell from the Heavenly Realm. With her death, the Bani Mono of this region too collapsed as the Emirate suffered from demoralization, riots, and soon a coup.

Soon after the anarchy died down, the first anomaly happened. Not far off from the Capital of the Bani Mono, lightning struck the valley of sand, a myriad of halos flashes in the sky, and with it a gargantuan vessel suddenly appeared out of nowhere. The vessel appeared to be a galleon, but curiously made of metal instead of wood and extremely far from the nearest coast. Its interior devoid of crew members nor any signs of life. Merely contraptions of advanced metal and clockwork. All free of rock, sand, and dust.

Month after month, more of these metallic objects appear in the valley. Appearing in a flash of light similarly as the last. Be they swords, carriages, or even ships. Some had clockwork, some did not. But all of them share the same nature. Objects of metal.

The locals quickly pieced together the clues. The death of the Elohima of Metal followed by the sudden appearances of metallic artifacts. This valley is a grave. Where pieces of the metal goddess are dropped from the heavenly realm.

The Ba'al get off his horse and inspects the newest addition to the Corpse. A vessel the size of a chapel. Adorned with clockwork more advanced than before. He can tell it's been here for less than a week by the thickness of sand deposited all over it. But before he order his men to set up camp, he pulls out the sword from his scabbard.

Voices! He heard voices coming from inside this vessel!

***

"By the Kronissiah! When will we leave this junk!" the sailor asks. "We've been teleported here for a week! It's hot! We're out of milk too!"

>>19375779
>terminated chuubas / chuubas who die without graduation leave behind graves littered with things related to their gimmick
That's a cool concept I gotta say. Reading intently for more

>>19375779
https://youtu.be/PhfgN9sq5Xs?t=139

Bless the Elohima and Her lightning.
Bless the coming and going of Her.
May Her laugh cleanse the world of pain.
May She keep the world pure for Her Pikarmy.

>>19375779
>/infinity/'s ships and gadgets got teleported into the middle of nowhere because of magic
>and the natives all want it
Interesting story and I really love how you toss in Canaanite terms like Ba'al and Elohim instead of making it just a knockoff arabia

>>19375779
>>19373461
>>19372419
>>19371370
>>19313028
>>19312981
>>19309637
>>19303735
>>19301228
>>19299826
>a bunch of vtuber-watching autists
>creating a world inspired by their threads
>managed to create an original and unique setting
>and Im enjoying it and want more

>>19375779
Hoping for a continuation.

>>19376061
It's more of a coincidence thing
Kronii debuted a few months after Monoe's 'death'
In-universe after the anarchy died down, that was when /infinity/ first appeared and their ships got teleported into the desert during experiments or battles
>>19376349
Thanks. Yeah, i tried expanding the range of middle eastern inspirations. Some Akkadian here, a bit of Arab there, Canaanite and Hebrew here.
>>19377185
Honestly I want this to be a round robin like any 4chan creations. So if any anon wants to write a continuation go ahead

>>19376349
/∞/ would find a way to either conquer /voms/ or just destroy all their stuff and commit mass suicide.

>>19377366
Though I'd like to write a continuation from the Kronie perspective, I'll have to read up on /voms/ lore. Unfortunately I'll have to sleep, so even if I knew what to write it'd have to wait.

I like when lore includes other generals lie this

>>19377642
Doubt. Infinity has no interest in conquering others. They'd probably attempt to have sex with brown women of the desert then tame a dune worm to bring their ship back to sea.

You know what's funny?
/vsj/ and /clg/ wants to conquer /voms/ believing theyre a bunch of backwards tribes
But now that we teleported a bunch of Kronie tech there it's gonna save their ass

Any more ideas for Chuubanite with low fantasy magic ideas?

>>19378089
A lot of them, still writing the proposal

>>19303735
/KFP/ only adopted small sections of it since /KFP/, along with the 35p, operate with a fairly different style of warfare due to primarily arming their soldiers with flamethrowers.

KFP warfare involves heavy use of scare tactics, demoralization, and a doctrine that lies somewhere between guerilla warfare and good old fashioned Blitzkrieg.

>>19304466
Would selling you our special Flamethrower gravy perhaps be adequate payment?

>>19377694
If it was really in their self interest and they had no other choice they might. They blitzkreged the previous leader of this project.

>>19378547
imagine sneaky beakies like that guy just popping up and hitting you with a flamer

jesas

>>19379156
closest we got from moomer herself

>>19379032
That was self defense.

>>19379308
you guys sure you're not raven guard from 40K?

>>19379351
It's a very diverse republic

>>19379032
If he didn't have ulterior motives then he wouldn't have left.

/nasa/ will most likely stick to bunker warfare with bullet proof escape pods and the station. Its up in the air what weapons /nasa/ still has. And we're waiting for tectonics before figuring out where we can mine.

>>19377642
>>19377694
>>19379032
I honestly imagine /inf/ taking over a spot and just hunkering down there. And if someone tries to invade their spot and they do manage to take some territory, it plays out like the scene where the Japanese retake the island in Hacksaw Ridge.

>>19377642
>>19377694
>>19379032
I honestly imagine /inf/ taking over a spot and just hunkering down there. And if someone tries to invade their spot and they do manage to take some territory, /inf/'s counter-attack plays out like the scene where the Japanese retake the island in Hacksaw Ridge.

>>19380082
>>19380188
Double post?

>>19380297
Forgot to add a part to make it clear what I was referencing.

>>19373479
Imagine seeing a horde of kigs walking towards your city

>>19370767
>>19371111
Was /infinity/ just totally ahead of us on this, like they were when they picked the location for their island, or was it dumb luck?

>>19378547
>Would selling you our special Flamethrower gravy perhaps be adequate payment?
While that sounds enticing, it likely would not see much use, as 35p would prefer the recipe bestowed upon us by the Shrine Priestess.
What I would propose instead, is to buy small amounts of an assortment of our locally produced chocolate, sake and our unique sakura perfume, as well as any other curios you may like, to sell wherever you go and spread their reputation.

>>19379396
Clearly. Figure that as of rn, /vspo/ and /infinity/ have the best weapons, /nasfaq/ the largest mercenary forces and glownigger agency, /rose/, /haha/, /clg/, /kfp/, the best-organized central armies, and /hlgg/ unga bunga hordes.

>>19384903
They were fairly lucky with the initial island placement not disrupting sea currents and climate by accident so it wouldn't surprise me.
My main concern wouldn't be with the ironclads themselves anymore, but with the implications of having steam tech in general. With chuubanite involved that shouldn't really matter now though.

>>19359811
>I would say early ironclads are balanced if people are worried about them taking over the world.
People were concerned about a nation that was in the midst of the industrial revolution having the strength and economy to dominate the world. The ironclads were just an aspect of that.

>>19385068
Didn't the navel fag also say steam engines weren't that big a deal because they required a shitload of fuel?

>>19385167
Especially since the thread used to lean heavily into historical realism, the presence of industrial-level technology in a renaissance world would create an insurmountable power gap.
>>19385216
Early ones.

>>19385236
I thought we agreed to bump things up to the age of enlightenment?

>>19385260
In part /due/ to the ironclad debate, yeah.

>>19385216
Ya hes clearly only looking at it from a navel perspective and an extremely generous one at that. Its no longer really relevant since the realism has been dropped quite a bit now but I don't like the idea of the disagreement being so completely misrepresented

>>19385304
I don't really see the problem then. If the rest of the world is 1750 in technology, /infinity/ could be 1850 since all their technology is new, but inefficient or they don't have the fuel needed to run them.
And if /infinity/ tries to take over the world, I'm sure enough other countries could form a giant alliance to fight them.

>>19385437
It's not much of a problem /now/, due to the changes in the world and loosening up on realism/bumping up the technological era.

It used to be a problem before, though.

>>19385502
Even if everything was 100% realistic, I must not be seeing it then since the navel fag's stuff made it look like steam power can give you an edge, but it's extremely circumstantial.

>>19385622
Versus 1500's naval equipment? It's basically no contest in terms of things like firepower.

Respublika Owl / Republique Hibou / 共和国 ワシミミズク and it's Religion, this is the text detailing /who/'s base religion and how i'll be structuring it in the future, things are still subject to change of course.

On Religion:

The Republic does not hold an official religious policy to spread and is in fact, rather close to an atheist state, this is not due to a lack of deities thought, but due to the large amount of often conflicting beliefs by much of the population and the lack of material and text detailing the origin of the stories.
The Republic often steps in fights between the groups and forces them to make peace, it's in part thanks to this that the Republic is so centralized.
These beliefs do tend to have the following features in common
1. They speak about a nameless being
2. This being is related to humanity in some way
3. This being is tipically represented as a woman
4. This being is not a god

Owl Belief is not an actual religious belief, but of the commonplace relation that Owls, specifically Eagle-Owls, recieve to the Nameless being.
Polytheism isn't unheard of, specially after 2-way communications had been established with the sister nation of the Mountain monks to the east and references to each others mythology had been found, current talks with the explorers from outside the planet have yielded interesting propositions about the religious belief of all our nations. References to the religion of the mountain monks and their deity, a being of chaos that is surprisingly level headed are most numerous. The fact that the Mountain Monks hold the most unified religion aside from the far eastern islanders of /infinity/ probably influenced this. the Druids of the northern forest also hold a system of beliefs that references that of the other sister nations, but due to logistical constrains and the shifting paths of the forest, it is hard to investigate.

Many groups claim that she is formed by the collective power and intelligence of every human in existence, she is humanity itself, others however, claim that she is a reflection of humanity instead, some claim that she is civilization's mother, others that she is civilization's daughter.

The Cult of Reason stands among other cults by taking the concept of the "humanity itself" theory and pushing it to it's logical extreme, humans must grow in power and knowledge to surpass any enemies and eventually, allow the nameless being to kill the gods that constrain humanity. Many of the Republic's politicians, scientists, and military leaders form part of this cult. This does mean that they are in positions of political power and will often try to push forth scientific investigation, and less known, espionage on other nations and states.

A much more obscure and suppresed Cannibal cult exists, rising independently and before the /meat/ warriors retook the beliefs of the older world, the Cannibal cult is jingoistic and states that the nameless being is a cannibal, she shall cook the gods alive in a boiling pot and eat their soup, the cannibals believe that they must honour her by the cannibalization of the enemies of the Republic. It's members are good at hiding and only ocassionally pop up in public space, despite their jingoism, they still respect the Republic's diplomatic strategy and contain themselves and their beliefs.

Notably, many of these groups never detail whether or not an afterlife exists, and most outright deny it.

>>19385803
But everyone got bumped up to 1750.

>>19385002
/nasa/'s got space bread. If we're lucky we can become the breadbasket of north Hololive continent. Though we still have to develope infrastructure. After selling wheat, flour, and pastries we'll have to look into building a port. /nasa/'s got blueprints, but we don't share those.

>>19385622
One of the issues is that a stream engine is also involved in all kinds of other huge innovations. Its a massive advantage against any pre industrial society
>>19385842
Yes, the other anon is talking about the past

>>19385845
Economic hegemon, not necessarily a military one besides "my reserves have reserves" unless a bunch of things break the right way for you.

>>19385842
Anything from 1850 still blows 1750 out of the water, I recall they were proposed 1790 to 1800

>>19385890
/nasa/ just needs time to grow. We just need Sana to stream more.

>>19385917
>Anything from 1850 still blows 1750 out of the water
Except it doesn't?

>>19386017
What do you mean they don't? The technological changes of that 100 year period were massive. Yes almost everything from that time period was better than the things that came before it

>>19386242
honestly, i think that post is bait.

>>19386242
It's not even nearly enough to give a massive power gap like you're saying, stop baiting.

>>19386482

>>19386549
>troll image
yup, bait.

>>19386381
I think it might be the kronieschizo the other kronies were complaining about. Talks like him

The Serene Republic of Nasfaqg is a Res Publica in the purest form of the phrase – the people’s thing. Organized as a minarchist society run by plutocrats, the de-facto government acts merely as a night-watchman, intervening when an Old Law is broken. Society is highly individualist, and a man’s worth is measured in their wealth; this, counter-intuitively, creates an atmosphere of tolerance, regardless of background or oshi, as everyone keeps it about the money. The whole country centers around a singular entity: The NASFAQ Stock Exchange on the main island.

A mysterious group known as “The Devs” runs the central NASFAQ Stock Exchange acts as the de-facto government operating from the shadows. These hooded and mysterious individuals are suspected to be behind the “black magics” running the prices and creating value ex nihilo – three of them are unnamed, with only their leader dubbed “honk” daring the operate outside of the shadows. They uphold the Old Laws, punishing arrogant traders who dared to transgress them with asset forfeiture and permanent banishment from the realm. These Old Laws primarily center around the Stock Exchange itself, leaving the country’s majority self-governing.

The Republic relies primarily on its self-proclaimed plutocrats – individuals with great wealth and significant influence. They are diverse in their goals, conduct, religions but are unified in one thing: endless hunger and craving for more and more wealth. They are earning money to earn more money, an ouroboros of a goal that pushes them towards drastic actions. Bizarre technological pursuits, complete isolation from all stimuli but numbers, or consuming copious amounts of psychoactive substances have been reported to be used as many pathways for predicting the market and beating the rivals. Morality, also known as “soul,” is a rare quality displayed amongst /nasfaqg/ plutocrats. In most cases, it only manifests as a slight attachment to their oshi, favoring her over profits. However, extreme cases of “soul” exist in cases where traders self-impose draconic limits on their ability to make a profit, curbing their never-ending hunger.

Outwardly, /nasfaqg/ residents are primarily known as active traders, smelling profits and investments before they are even able to materialize. Paired with the Republic’s lack of cohesive external policy, it makes their actions seem aimless at times, which muddies the shadowy proxy wars waged in other generals by traders who seek profit at any cost. As it is solely business, individuals who bet against opposing sides of the conflict will in many cases cordially feast and converse while their respective “investments” violently clash in bloody massacres. Despite this, at the end of the day involvement of a /nasfaqg/ plutocrat is a sign of upcoming prosperity and economic growth, even if it would mean temporary turmoil.

Also, I think that despite the name/flag it'd be easier to think of /nasfaqg/ closer to the Golden Age-era Netherlands in terms of aesthetics and things that go beyond the established lore.

>>19387114
You forgot to anchor. >>19273764

>>19387114
>spoiler
I was under the impression we were larping as the Hanseatic League already, lore wise.

>>19389019
bread....

>>19389019
Considering that you likely have individuals as wealthy as smaller threads in /nasfaqg/ it wouldn't be absurd to say that (You) can adopt whichever aesthetic for your personal estate you want. I assume that effectively /nasfaqg/ is a patchwork architecturally and thematically, but also technologically. Some traders have developed advanced mechanical computing, while others pursued different technological avenues, never sharing their findings with anyone else. It's effectively an ancap society with individuals as city-states, and smaller traders slowly rising up to that level or dying off in the process.

>>19389178
Oh, I really like that idea. It fits well with the
>They are diverse in their goals, conduct, religions but are unified in one thing: endless hunger and craving for more and more wealth
part.

>>19389178
>Considering that you likely have individuals as wealthy as smaller threads in /nasfaqg/
>The Masamune pull a Commodore Perry on /infinity/ just so that they can acquire a sufficient supply of kronie milk

>>19389759
There is no need, since /nasfaqg/ traders often frequent other threads, such as the thread of their oshi - as such, I'd imagine our resident Kronie would be sent over to negotiate together with other venture partners without the need to show force... That being said, there could be other plutocrats who would wish to acquire goods through force, but it would be unlikely to get good returns, no?

I like your VOC mentality, though. Works much better on ahem, "uncivilized" nations.

>>19389759
>>19390071
>threatening kronies
because that tactic worked out extremely well for the last guy who tried it

>>19390865
You mean, the event that had most posters leave, almost killed the thread, will forever stain the view of Kronies here? The one that worked only because the other guy quit?
We aren't quitters. If you shit up the thread again, it won't work as well as you think, bub.

This is just banter obviously, but seriously. You'll kill this thread and have to go back to /infinity/ to discuss amazing lore such as, uh, the girth of Council's futa cocks, since that's basically the usual lore output.

>>19390865
For kronie milk, it is worth it

>>19391144
Based.

>>19391082
You need to stop taking things so seriously, you'll end up like a certain tripfag being that inflexible.
Bants aside, Implying you don't read all the excellent the futa lore intently.

>>19391144
No milk, only SALVATION

>>19391412
Give me milk or give me death
/nasfaqg/ takes milk business very seriously, especially if the milk is free of charge

>>19391470
Post wallet.

>>19391470
We'll give you death, free of charge.
This is where the fun begins.

>>19391556

>>19391741
>#2
How the time flies... picture of Cypher's wallet no longer has that 'oomph'. Also, at least try to include the blue highlight of your own wallet.

>>19391806
im too fucking lazy to make an edit for a shitpost

Wait, all you guys are making your chuuba your religion now? Damn, now I don't feel like ours is so special anymore...

>>19319095
There is like 3 or 4 anons who have expressed interest in it, but but I don't think they get it just yet. Hoping that changes.

>>19319095
/nasfaqg/
Looking forward to betting away a few million. I think a few others are too.

>>19392252
"Honk, turn off my bet inhibitors."
"What? This- this is madness, you'll bet your entire net wor--"
"Do it!"

>>19273764
>>19385824
forgot to anchor

>>19392047
Sanalites follow Sana wherever she goes. /nasa/ is just unfortunate to crash land in /vt/. Though it could be worse. We could have landed in reddit.

>>19384957
I will agree to this deal 35p. We will buy and sell your chocolates, Sake
Since we're apparently the foremost trade power outside of Nasfaqq and /#/ I suppose I might as well announce the creation of the West Takamöri trade company (with the approval of Morig of course), with which the KFP will ship their trade good around the world with the assistance of captains and boat makers from Morig, with our main offices based in the Grand Imperial Capital of our glorious Kaiserin, Pheenixtön. It will be lead by Pölitid tycoon Shön Mendlelev.

If any one else wants their goods sold along our path of shipping (see >>19304393) we will be happy to buy your goods.

KFP are mistrusted merchants who speak a bastardized form of German and have pointy things on their faces, öy vey...

>>19392628
/nasfaqg/ has a solid link to /morig/ given the prominent deadbeat traders, so maybe you would be interested in expanding the trade route down south? Some definitely-not-contraband Niji goods, as well as eastern Holo produce.

>>19392446
What the hell am I looking at?

I'm just waiting on tectonic analysis before mining in /nasa/. I wonder if we can find lithium to make batteries at least.

>>19393065
Buckle up, for I shall tell you the Glorious Tale of the Unwise Steward.

In a trading era long gone, the Exchange had introduced a new functionality to match the times - auctions. Yet, their operation was guided by draconic laws, taxing every step and punishing foolish traders who would wish to cancel auctions prematurely.

An Investigator, compensating with bravery what he lacked in brains, has decided to test its limits, setting up an auction and cancelling it. The (New) Old Law has been uncompromising, bombing his entire net worth into negative numbers, a feat never done before. His realm, his estate, his future, all in ruins. Yet, to this day, I remember him stating "it was pretty funny though".

>>19393065
Thankfully, his fellow traders have noticed, and the attention it received has caught the eye of the shadowy Devs. For the first and last time, they have shown mercy and erased his debts, leaving him with his assets intact, yet money gone. Thus, the Tale of the Unwise Steward ends with a Miraculous Bailout.

It has served well as a cautionary tale and a testament to the Investigator's courage and foolishness.

>>19393308
So it's just the first guy who managed to go into debt? I thought it was pretty normal for you guys

>>19393308
>>19393503
>An Investigator
*The Investigator.
or at least he was the investigator...

>>19393547
It's harder than you might think. It's a non-zero sum game, meaning that technically money and value spawns into existence if you're at least somewhat competent.
Loans are (virtually) impossible, so player-to-player debt is extremely rare. Once you're out of funds, you cannot spend the funds you don't have.
Even now, going into debt requires a very specific course of action (that was previously unknown, and he just tested the limits of the new mechanic): you need to obtain the Auction's License, then set up an auction on anything with an absurd starting bid, and finally cancel that auction immediately. 50% of that bid will be deducted from your liquid, and this is the only action that can put you in debt.
Nowadays, there is a limit on the starting bid, so nothing as impressive as that feat can be achieved without cooperation of two people, or will just end up with a small debt compared to that one.

>>19393623
Investigator...

Please excuse /nasfaqg/, we're mourning a lot lately.

>>19394227
What happened?

>>19395198
Several prominent traders leaving that have posted in the thread for over a year, all abayo'ing in a short span of time - some due to IRL obligations, and some due to Rushia's termination. Fandeads were great traders and posters, and most of them are just gone now...

>>19377897
Infinity probably strongly supports respecting sovereign borders given their history here. They'd help /voms/ if it was a choice between inaction and action.

/nasa/ is interested in /infinity/ as a trade partner. When /nasa/ gets their furnaces up and running they can at least make some decent aluminium alloy and titanium metals. When we rebuild our chemical labs we will be interested in analyzing Kronie? milk.

>>19397680
We look forward to that, spaceman. And be careful, it's Kronii Milk, named after our goddess. Anyone trying to sell you Kronie Milk is a pervert trying to con you into buying his ejaculate.

Though, you maybe your people want to analyze that too.

>>19392047
For the most part this has always been the case

>>19397763
I've seen it spelled both ways. So its "ii" instead of "ie". We have enough resources and personell to get started. However we're facing a morale crisis. Many are asking "what's the point if it won't bring Sana back?" I have to be honest with the crew and tell them Sana wants us to take care of ourselves first. Though the annoying thing is Sana doesn't really respond to anybody outside of streams. Even with other chuubas. Though she does praise art of her from time to time. But before we can create a Sana art project Maslov's heirarchy needs to be met first.

new bread doko?

>>19398058
I can only imagine your struggles, sanalite. Infinity is in turmoil when our goddess is gone for even just half the time yours has been. But chin up, I'm sure she'll return soon.

>>19397763
If you're going to trade materials, make sure it's something we can replicate ourselves later since /nasa/ wants to reverse engineer the milk.

>>19398282
I'll make one

Fucking phoneposting ate the subject line

>>19398578
>>19398578
>>19398578

New bread