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What is /asp/?

A thread for aspiring vtubers! Whether your goal is to make the journey as an independent streamer or to gain experience and build a portfolio for agency auditions. Let's help each other grow and make it. Indies are welcome to selfpost, but shill responsibly. Share your knowledge, insights, feedback, discuss what has worked and what hasn't worked for you. And always remember to do your research before posting personally identifying information. That includes both in this thread and in your audition applications to agencies.

FAQ:
>Do I need a fully rigged model to be a vtuber?
Nope! You can get started as a simple .png character!

>I want to learn how to rig Live2D models, where do I go?
Brian Tsui (of Iron Vertex), Kira Omori and the official Live2D YouTube channels have many tutorials available.

>Where can I find artists/riggers?
vtuber.gg, ArtStation, DeviantArt, Twitter, Reddit, Skeb.jp, etc.

>I just want to get started, can I buy pre-made models?
Yes! Live2D models can be purchased off nizima.com (Live2D's official marketplace) or booth.pm (general Japanese indie artist website). Be sure to check compatibility with your facial tracking software!

>Where can I learn how to digital market myself?
https://learndigital.withgoogle.com/digitalgarage

>Where can I find some good games to stream?
https://twitchtracker.com/games
https://sullygnome.com/

>Twitch or YouTube?
The general rule of thumb is Twitch if your content is primarily based on livestreaming and YouTube if your content is primarily pre-recorded and edited.

>Do you think there's an audience for X, Y, Z content?
First, ask yourself if you would watch a streamer of your skill and experience. Second, do a check on social media and look to see if other streamers are already creating similar content. Don't limit yourself to vtubers, include traditional real life streamers to scope out a potential audience.

Pastebin Guides and Resources:

General: https://pastebin.com/AJLkFrGK
OpSec Guide: https://pastebin.com/uALiNZCV
"avoid doing this shit": https://pastebin.com/vbp6qEdt

Google Doc of Assets and Resources: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQHyRDZ3nxlIINfZz_wWCbgQ9gR4OgbTFhyGwq45DseUixkJJKbUmhPjnkWcmh7dOCDdxObAZXv_zti/pubhtml

Stay grounded, stay hopeful.
Start tweeting.

Last Thread: >>19023190

>> No.19181081

I pulled the trigger last night & paid an artist to draw my OC. Once that's done, I can start png tubing while I wait for my live2d model to be made & rigged & can hopefully get some of my kinks/issued ironed out

>> No.19181322

>>19181081
good luck

>> No.19181581

CAN THAT BLONDE CAT BITCH STOP FUCKING BUYING YOUTUBE ADS.
IM SICK HEARING YOU'RE RETARDED WANNABE KAWAII VOICE WHILE IM TRYING THE MASTUREBATE TO RISU.

>> No.19182933

>>19181581
adblock anon

>> No.19185592

bumpu

>> No.19186069

slow day for aspies

>> No.19186266

finally got the chance to order my new internet. should be up and streamin' within two weeks.

>> No.19186859

https://twitter.com/HiiragiYuu_Vt/status/1497666779639738370
one of the fastest growing indies on twitch is holding a faq about vtubing if you're intereseted

>> No.19187522

>>19186859
lookd gay

>> No.19187651

>>19187522
Little_S_yes_and?.png

>> No.19188227

is streaming extremely long every time i go live a bad idea

>> No.19188406

>>19188227
there are too many factors that go into it give you an answer
>are you blowing out your voice after each?
probably a bad idea
>are you training endurance to improve?
probably a good idea
>are you plateauing and losing viewers after a certain hour?
probably a bad idea
>are you consistently growing in viewers with a positive trend?
probably a good idea

>> No.19188567

Is it just me, or do all vtuber channel logos look the same?

>> No.19188610

>>19188406
im gonna use my normal voice so thats not a problem and try to do crazy stuff each stream for uniqueness and notoriety (like noranekos lore or korones nonstop gaming) i would do normal stuff too so its not like a bazillion vids of me being a tryhard, ill only do it when im playing a game i guess like try to beat the game in 1 stream

>> No.19188651

>>19188567
which ones are you looking at? some look nice in my opinion but there are boring ones

>> No.19188769

>>19188651
I think there that one JP artist that does a lot of logo commissions and they have a very particular style. Think the ones for Ame, Gura, and Calli as examples.

>> No.19189416

>>19188769
Yeah, I think Kiara originally commissioned that artist for her logo and overlay and everyone on the planet ended up commissioning the same artist afterwards.

Overall I'd say it's just a part of the vtuber aesthetic since many graphic designers for vtubers make similar work, but it's hard not to say that guy was a part of making it so consistently prevalent. At the same time, there's only so many directions and styles to go with if you're always trying to communicate "this is a cute vtuber with a ___ theme" with your logo. It'd be like complaining sports logos are all somewhat samey because they all follow similar design principles.

>> No.19190757

>>19186859
The best part is that this person spent a few months doing pre-debut networking and shilling before ever going live and their debut hit about a hundred and they just rode through from there. It's basically another one of those cases of doing the opposite of everything /asp/ tells you but still thriving. Pre-Debut, expensive model, not "just stream"ing and developing an audience, etc.

>> No.19190989

>>19190757
it's almost like this is just a place for tips and newcomers to communicate with each other because there are no hard rules to getting famous and requires a good amount of luck otherwise we would all be successful chuubas

>> No.19191319

>>19190757
you also forget that Hiiragi was a big Utaite before becoming a Vtuber and even before she debuted she made silly posts and recordings on twitter; she still made content even if some anons will say that things on twitter aren't content

>> No.19191917

>>19180853
Statistically, very very few people are gonna make it, and even more few are gonna be from here. Most of you here are not gonna make it, and thats just statistics, if every single vtuber was sucessful then no one would be sucessful because there's not an infinite audience for all of us to have.
So how do you know you wont be part of the statistic? Even though odds are against you?

>> No.19191973

>>19190757
>Pre-Debut, expensive model, not "just stream"ing and developing an audience, etc.
if you have the money and singing talent hiiragi yuu had at the time do whatever you want. most aspies are starting from literal zero in terms of money equipment talent and skill

>> No.19192327

>>19190757
>Pre-Debut, expensive model, not "just stream"ing and developing an audience
These are incredibly good things to do if (You) have several things:
1) experience in entertainment
2) experience in entertainment
3) a large sum of money for the expensive model
4) preexisting audience
5) experience in entertainment
I'd wager most of the anons /here/ can barely pass a job interview at a fast food restaurant.

>> No.19192381

>>19191917
though question
it's discouraging but you can only hope that by putting in effort and trying your best you can maybe with a bit of luck you'll have at least a dozen viewers and subscribers that can motivate you

>> No.19192479

>>19191917
>So how do you know you wont be part of the statistic?
I don't know. The only way to find out is to try.
And while I'm at it, let's check the repeating numbers >>19191919

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I shut down whenever I press the stream button...

>> No.19193105

trying to find designs to steal but every single clown i find is supposed to be scary

>> No.19193164

>>19190757
>spent a few months doing pre-debut networking and shilling
tell me that you never actually followed hiiragi without telling me you never followed hiiragi. she even admitted in several streams that she
>has a lot of experience as a voice over performer
>has experience singing covers
>had a ton of money to drop on the model
>impulsively designed something very simple based off herself irl
>just started streaming streaming as soon as she got a model
her very first video on youtube was a cover song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrkaIPdnMIU
and then she got featured in one of Ironmouses first vtuber deep dives when everyone still cared and hype was still high.


any aspie that tries to recreate this will fail unless you've already got that talent and experience as well as the sheer luck to get featured by ironmouse during a time when indie chuuba hype was at an all time high.

>> No.19193186

>>19191917
>So how do you know you wont be part of the statistic? Even though odds are against you?
It's honestly not exceptionally hard to cultivate an audience but I think a lot of terminally-on-4chan and overall just jaded type of people you see here are too proud to do the things that need to be done. I think a lot are just too judgemental and uninterested in doing things they see as bad, cirnge, etc.

I've seen people shit on things like hashtags, networking (seen as leeching somehow?), making memes (too "normie"), researching larger creators (too "normie" again), taking advice from successful people they don't like. They see other people who are actually sociable or likeable succeed and think "I have to sell my soul! I have to destroy my morals!" when all the other people who became successful before them did was create actual content (guides, memes, tiktoks, what have you) that appeals to a large amount of people. I understand because I had that same mindset about other things when I was younger.

If you look around and see what other people are doing to succeed, which hasn't changed in a decade, you should have no problem cultivating some form of an audience unless you've got such a boring personality, voice, etc that no one could possibly be interested in you. There's some people who just aren't cut out for content creation because it requires a lot more than hitting the Live button and playing some obscure game no one cares about then just repeating that for months and wondering why you aren't bigger.

>> No.19193363

i have realized my personality is diametrically opposed to what an entertainer should be like and since i'm not enjoying acting i think it's the best to stop streaming altogether. i enjoyed the ride but i scheduled my last stream for now. it was a fun time being an /asp/ie but what i thought was just something i had to learn ended up clashing with my nature. all i wanted was to have people to talk to, but this was the wrong way to get it.

>> No.19193411

>>19193363
can you at least link it
i hate when people say they are giving up and don't even let us see their supposed final content

>> No.19193513

>>19193363
>i'm not enjoying acting
why are you forcing yourself to act while streaming? there are plenty of chuubas who don't act a character and are just themselves.

>> No.19193712

>>19193363
I think I might too, I streamed 3 times in the span of a year. Couldn't muster up anything to say, and even dreaded pressing the stream button. It all plays out in my head but I can't translate it to reality. It's hard to speak when its been taught you you your whole life to never speak up.

>> No.19193764

>>19193513
nta but a lot of people are are "just themselves" are boring. Sort by lowest to highest on the Vtuber tag and see how many people are just just "themselves". Not everyone has the personality to be an entertainer.

also I think they meant "My personality isn't entertaining" and "I dont like pretending".

>> No.19194086

>>19193764
Why do you even wanna be a Vtuber?

>> No.19194135

>>19194086
not him, but I just wanted a hobby that maybe I wouldn't give up on.

>> No.19194227

After being told about sunkenji from her, I decided maybe it's not bad to not use my actual skin color. At the end of the day it's not like I'm gonna die

>> No.19194236

>>19193186
This is so true. Im not a vtuber but I do youtube videos.
I was so worried about not seeming desperate or not acting "cringe" on social media, that I would just play it safe because of certain content creator friends that also followed me (and were much successful). Eventually I was just like, I dont give a fuck anymore and just act the way I want to on social media and its been going a lot better. Specally when I realized these friends didnt even care about me lmao.

>> No.19194284

>>19194135
I was asking him because being a vtuber/streamer means being an entretainer. If you dont enjoy being an entretainer, you arent cut for it.
A lot of people see it as "Just playing games and getting money" but its not as easy.

>> No.19194301

>>19193411
sure, im planning to just vent for an hour, trying to actually be myself for one stream. ill post it on monday
>>19193764
this. im not really a positive person im not super energized and my comfortable voice is very monotonous. i know streaming is always also work, but it's just something i dont enjoy doing. and being myself doesn't have appeal for people to sit down and listen to for a long time
>>19194086
i used to stream since 2014, i think it's a large part wanting attention. i like having conversations a lot and I'd want to meet people and their opinions, but i have a hard time making friends. streaming would have been my perfect outlet but there's a lot more to it than just babbling nonsense

>> No.19194372

Anyother pixel chuubas around?
Just found this cute artist guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oydBPHfdcMw

>> No.19194530

>>19194236
>play it safe because of certain content creator friends that also followed me
Dude this. I hated my "fight through the cringe" phase. It's just this weird self conscious brainrot when in reality my friends did not care in the least, or at worst will roast me once in a while for it but we all do that to eachother. I really wish I could've just started over but undoing all that networking would've only made things worse. I think it's just the pressure of "doing something embarrassing" which can happen all the time vs "creating something embarrassing" because then they're judging something you put hard work into.

For anyone experiencing this or worried about it, just fight through it. It's really not that bad on the other side and a lot more freeing.


>>19194086
It's fun. I'm having fun creating content and engaging with my community, and it makes it easier to meet likeminded people. It's the same as any other hobby I've had. I've met people through card games while also enjoying them, through gaming, through conventions. It's all for my own enjoyment first and foremost though admittedly this is more of a success-based hobby so that enjoyment comes from success as well as creation, but all the other social benefits are obviously a huge perk.

>> No.19195527

How do you come up with a good chuuba surname that has some actual meaning behind it?

>> No.19195562

>>19195527
>that has some actual meaning behind it?
pick one and just give it your own meaning.

>> No.19195838

>>19195527
What meaning do you think Silvervale, Iron Mouse, Zentreya, girl_dm, blossumcake, overzeggs, tfmjohnny, elly_vt, golden tatsu, or any of the thousands of random vtuber names has?

Pick a name, don't be autistic about it.

>> No.19195929

>>19195838
Iron mouse I believe would be a not so subtle reference to the maus (german tank).

>> No.19196127

>>19195838
What if I started off with a random name that I came up with several years ago before I decided to start on the path of the (male) chuuba?

>> No.19196171

>>19196127
And not to mention already use it in different places, so opsec is pretty much impossible.

>> No.19196915

>>19196171
Depends on how much you care on people looking at your previous life. There's plenty of successful vtuber content creators that use their previous usernames and all of their old content (and faces) are free to look at.

>> No.19196985

>>19196127
That's all the top chuubas did anyway

>> No.19197853

>>19195929
It's straight up a character from sailor moon.

>> No.19198036

>>19195929
>your brain on /pol/shit

>> No.19198112

>>19197853
wtf I don't remember it. I've just watched images of her but it triggers no memory whatsoever. I guess SS was shit enough to get memory holed.

>> No.19198407

How do you guys think of things to talk about?

>> No.19198644

>>19198407
I honestly will just use anything to find something to talk about. No matter how weird. But then I'm stuck in my own personal 2 view hell.

>> No.19198872

>>19198407
Conversation topic generator/list online. Print it out or write down some of the more interesting ones.

>> No.19198968

>>19198644
This issue is sort of beyond a numbers thing. This is a I rarely ever talk in my life and shut down whenever I try to.

>> No.19199355

>>19198407
You do have an internal monologue, right?
Just make it external.

>> No.19199356

I've always procrastinated on drafting my chuuba but that Kizuna Ai live yesterday was a wake up call for me, she entrusted her legacy to all of us goddamnit

>> No.19199426

>>19199355
No, it's like radio silence.

>> No.19199445

>>19198968
Oh I used to be like that when I was younger. I completely understand. I think having to work customer service forced some of it out of me.

>> No.19199711

>>19199426
>sub 90 IQ
Poor lad, it's ogre for you. Unless you're a girl, they have a retard pass, hell for them it's an asset. If you are indeed retarded, put it forward.

>> No.19199844

>>19199711
I should note that I do have it normally, just not under stress.

>> No.19200028

>>19199844
Yeah that shit happens when you have crap like anxiety. Especially if it's mixed with ADHD or Autism.

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>>19200028
It's over for me...

>> No.19200267

>>19200141
Dude I have all three... And I'm still trying.

>> No.19200448

>>19200267
I as well have all three

>> No.19200557

Some people just aren't cut out for content creation or entertainment. There's nothing wrong with that but it must suck for this to be way you find out and only after dumping in hours streaming to the void.

>> No.19200653

>>19200557
or spending thousands of dollars getting to that point

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>>19186859
she's starting now

>> No.19201228

>>19200995
Her voice remind me hotel reception staff.

>> No.19201315

>>19200995
>He/she/they

Yeah can't imagine how they are growing so fast... It will forever remain a mystery..

>> No.19201341

>>19201315
why don't you try that and see how much influences your growth?

>> No.19201401

>>19194530
Exactly, just play the social media game.

Hell I did it and got a viral tweet making fun of SF6.

>> No.19201489

>>19201315
>hundreds if not thousands of alphabet army chuubas and steamers at the bottom

Stop being retarded and coming up with excuses. They were already an extremely experienced content creator prior to even becoming a chuuba, they've got a good voice, singing skills, and loads of experience.. Why do people always come up with excuses about EVERY SINGLE successful person and how they got there?

>> No.19201502

>>19201341
Dude I have straight up seen folks with terrible models, bad voice, completely unsalvagable personalities, get views from tagging their crap LGBT.

>> No.19201533

>>19201502
yes. that's my point. so why aren't you?

>> No.19201557

>>19200995
>always assume no one care about your lore except for you

This is already off to an amazing start, lots to learn here. Lorefags, listen up.

>> No.19201632

>>19201533
I can't fake it. Also my growth is slow but is at least somewhat existent.

>> No.19201667

>>19201632
>I can't fake it.
it's literally just letters on a screen you don't ever have to think about after setting it.

>> No.19201672

>>19201502
They're not getting views, they're getting clicks or follows on Twitter.

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SHE'S SHITTING ON LOREFAGS, BASED BASED BASED

>> No.19201826

>>19201739
Harsh for them, but it's true.

>> No.19201829

>>19201632
>he's not doing everything he can to make it
ngmi

>> No.19201906

>>19201739
wow, insight that literally everyone in this thread knows

>> No.19201939

>gifted subs add up to 900
i kneel

>> No.19201972

>>19201906
>insight that literally everyone in this thread knows
only aspie regulars. we still get the lorefag trying to bait new anons into making their lore the most important aspect of their chuuba.

>> No.19201980

>>19201829
I don't know how good I am at being fake nice to gays and furries.

>> No.19202034

>>19201980
>being fake nice to gays and furries.
how would you know when a random username just says "hi" in chat? you prone to dropping le ebin gamer words and 4chan lingo at everyone who shows up?

>> No.19202043

>>19201906
There's a difference between anons and random 2views saying it and an actual successful chuuba publicly confirming it. I know this and you do as well, but a lot of people won't listen to advice they disagree with it unless they hear it from someone of repute. Despite "everyone in this thread" knowing, we still get tons of lorefags.

>> No.19202156

>>19201980
Just fucking don't.

We know those LGBT subs are dead in the water. Find a real audience that'll love you, anon.

>> No.19202240

>>19202034
>he doesn't yell SUP NIGGERFAGGOT to every person dropping by in chat
ngmi

>> No.19202249

>>19202034
You make a fair point.

>> No.19202263

>19201315
really surprised that people bit the bait on this one

>> No.19202281

There's zero proof those chuuba are getting views SOLELY because they're LGBT or tag themselves as such. There's thousands upon thousands of unsuccessful LGBT streamers, no reason the chuuba you notice who are more successful than you are the ones who somehow benefited from it.

>> No.19202322

>>19202263
it's 4chan. there are incels who genuinely believe this.

>> No.19202511

To anyone watching, be sure to take notes and look for places you can apply this to yourself. You'll forget it in a day so just keep a document saved in your chuuba folder.

>> No.19202583

>>19202322
i know, but i figured with how often i see "don't bite the bait posted" that it wasn't this time

>> No.19202634

Trying to decide who to get to rig my model, I like helping out new people but sort of hard to trust them too.

>>19194372
There's a guy on booth who makes pixel chuubas, pretty based actually
https://poribaketu.booth.pm/

Also there's this girl who's pretty cool, really like her art
https://www.youtube.com/c/TFNTNFT

>> No.19203158

>>19181081
I did that a while ago too, finding a good rigger is way harder than artist, so do your best.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQQYIFz2f70

Here's a try at a mental health/therapeutic chuuba.

>> No.19206236

What's your stance on nsfw art?

>> No.19206288

If Sonny could make it into Niji, there's hope for you /asp/ies

>> No.19206293

>>19206236
I want to get popular enough that people actually make it of me

>> No.19206305

>>19206236
i don't have an nsfw tag but i'm not against ever getting nsfw of myself but i'm male so the odds of that happening aren't high in the first place hehe

>> No.19206384

>>19206236
I made an NSFW tag because NSFW art of me got drawn. If you're comfortable with it, you may as well make the tag, or say that you don't mind.

>> No.19206766

>>19206236
it's pretty hot, as a male i won't ever get it and if i do i will be pogging forever

>> No.19207047

>>19206766
you should fujobait so you can get gay art

>> No.19207302

>i won't make it because of my voice
>literal gay men voicing 9 out of 10 nijimales
you aspies are looking for any excuse to procrastinate

>> No.19207432

>>19207302
https://voca.ro/1g6TexsGfuRV

>> No.19207936

Renting an RE20 to see if I like it…
I’m afraid that I’m going down yet another rabbit hole here bros. I’m super tempted to rent a TLM103 even though my space is totally untreated.

>> No.19208116

>>19207432
Forsen!?

>> No.19208150

>>19206288
Sonny have talent unlike most of us.

>> No.19209094

>>19206236
Wish I got some, but I bet they would never align with my tastes

>> No.19209130

>>19208116
Not even the first time I've gotten that reaction lmao

>> No.19209319

>>19207432
Does a certain username you use start with an M? Your voice is super familiar except the guy I'm thinking isn't foreign he just sounds like you because he's got a speech impediment.

>> No.19209575

>>19209094
What are your tastes?

>> No.19209808

>>19209319
Only an email account that I pretty much only use for things like /v/ the musical, to my knowledge.

>> No.19211108

>>19209808
Does your name start with R?

>> No.19211534

>>19211108
Nope on both real name and username.

>> No.19211672

>>19211534
Oh alright
Fellow /v/ the musical singfag here
Didn't expect to see another

>> No.19211990

>10 females
>10 males
when did you realize that nijisanji are done with auditions and won't accept anymore chuubas?

>> No.19212044

any fags here going through voice training? singing lessons perhaps? is it worth it?

>> No.19212225

>>19211990
Dude it's Nijisanji, they will non-stop spamming new waves.

>> No.19212274

>>19211672
I doubt I'm the only other one around here honestly, singfags seem pretty prevalent on /vt/ judging by how many entries those /vt/ sings projects got

>> No.19212294

>>19212225
they stopped doing that last year and even laid off 50 of their JP talents.

>> No.19212594

>>19212274
You sound pretty familiar but I cant put my finger on it, what letter does your singfag name start with? Its just bugging me in my head.

>> No.19213173

>>19212594
Always just stay anon and never do a huge number of songs, usually rock songs. Basically think Sabaton, Rob Zombie, Motörhead, that sort of thing.

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>be me
>watch last night's Holokino
>come to the realization that a Drake's equation sequence of improbabilities needs to come true, i.e. gain a >2view audience -> apply for a [male] wave of one of the corpos -> actually get accepted -> be part of one of the big ones where they can actually support off collabs of amerifat members -> [male] so almost certainly wouldn't ever be able to meet female corpmates IRL due to yab potential -> most i could maybe hope for is maybe hanging out with a couple other dudes
i am both happy that they're so happy, but also sad because the chances of becoming a corpo and maybe unironically becoming close friends with my fellow chuubas are slim to none >hurr implying they're actually friends and it's not just an act durr

>> No.19213248

>>19206236
Never gotten it and my viewers don't seem like the type to make it so I guess it doesn't matter but I feel like the only person who hates the idea of it. I don't like vtubers whose content panders to "lewd" type of shit in general

>> No.19213387

>>19213237
>specifying out "meeting females"
you were never going to make it

>> No.19213591

>>19213237
lol if that's your aim for becoming a chuuba i am glad you are giving up now
remember that these girls are playing a character still, meet them irl and they'll be just like 90% of other girls
literally touch grass and get some bitches

>> No.19213602

>>19213173
Kriterion?

>> No.19213810
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>>19213387
>Always forget that normalfags think saying "female" is somehow indicative of being a kissless virgin
it was actually drilled into me because of being a former navyfag, any other term for directly referring to wahmen (girls, ladies, etc.) is verboten

>> No.19213903

>>19213602
As I said, I don't use a name for /v/tm

>> No.19213998

can you two find a room? jesas fuck

>> No.19214128

>>19213810
regardless, you're a fucking loser if you unironically had some weird grand plan of becoming a corpo just to have friends (and cucked besides because you're apparently a "I HAVE GIRLS AS PLATONIC FRIENDS"fag), cuz that's basically what your fucking spergout boils down to
If that was your motivation for wanting to vtube, >>19213591

>> No.19214316

>>19213903
Ah I think I know who you are now, just Anonymous.
Good luck, maybe we'll meet again altho not sure if I'll be back to sing this year.

>> No.19215375

>>19212274
offtopic but how is /v/ the musical organized?

>> No.19215380

>>19213237
>apply for a [male] wave of one of the corpos -> actually get accepted -> be part of one of the big ones where they can actually support off collabs of amerifat members -> [male] so almost certainly wouldn't ever be able to meet female corpmates IRL due to yab potential
First off you're dumb, second, just don't be in Holo, lmao

>> No.19215467

How much did you guys pay for rigging? and from where did you get it done?

>> No.19215548

>>19215375
nta but its a yearly event that runs over the course of the month iirc. there's lyricwriters that make song parodies from musical songs and theres anons that sing the lyrics and i think they have mixers as well?
i was gonna participate in it last year but i hadn't been on /v/ for so long and i heard about it too late to do a song...

>> No.19216024

>>19186266
order is fully placed, jimmy 4chancore is happening soon

>> No.19216130

>>19193186
>>19194236

>check out the nijimale debut sticky
>people are talking about how x talent is boring/cringe but the general audience loves it

part of me feels motivated that if the barrier for entry is to be more entertaining than them I might have a shot at vtubing
but ALSO demotivated because if they're boring then how am I gonna make it?

Do you just grit your teeth and power through, see where it takes you? Since I can't stream for long hours due to a busy household/college sched I'm also considering uploading YT vids but the inner chan schizo keeps saying shit like "wow another revsaysdesu ripoff u wanna become nuxtaku 2.0 or something?" and honestly I think that's an issue others here might have.

lurking this site ever since I was 10 years old has had detrimental effects on my mental health

>> No.19216134

>>19215375
There's a core group of people that manage the associated accounts (Youtube, Bandcamp, Twitch).
At the start of the month a Google spreadsheet with open edit permissions goes live, which holds all the song titles, names of singers and editors, links to lyrics and audio clips, and at the end of the whole thing the sheet gets locked, the album orders are decided and there's a big celebratory live stream event of all the albums when it's all done.

>> No.19216475

>>19211990
Next waves will be both male and female, which the standard they want.

>> No.19216595

>>19216130
>how am I gonna make it?
the real secret is that you ignore opinions of 4chan. there's barely 1k unique people in /vt/ who give a shit to talk about it. you make it into nijisanji and you won't even see them in your chat because they're invisible.

>>19216475
auditions are done. it doesn't matter. no one new is getting in unless you were already making it to some degree august of last year.

>> No.19216599

>>19216130
>part of me feels motivated that if the barrier for entry is to be more entertaining than them I might have a shot at vtubing
Stop using 4chan as a fucking metric. There were TENS OF THOUSANDS of people there enjoying it and less than 100 people that didn't like it. Your goal isn't to be "more entertaining" you can be the most entertaining person in the world and not exist in the eyes of most people because you're undiscoverable. Your inner chan schizo is the reason you're even considering the opinions of some retards in the nijimale thread to begin with.

Stream. Do what you want. You aren't and will likely never be a corpo or on corpo level. just to use Mysta as an example, he had less than 70 viewers as an indie when he stopped. His average as a niji is 5k+. Stop looking towards corpos as a metric because you aren't in their ballpark, hell you aren't even playing the same game as them.

>> No.19216768

>>19216130
>spoiler
Same, I've been here for MORE than a decade and was just as much of an autist, but lately I've just kinda realized that 95% of people in the world have zero interest in complete spergs
There's a balance to be struck between just being a normalfag consoomer, and basically being a hipster of shitposting and screeching about normalfag trends/tastes and turning off the overwhelming majority of normal people from wanting to interact with you

>> No.19216824

>>19215375
>>19215548
>>19216134
It starts the 15th of every September.
There are a couple people who organize things but its very community driven, so no one has any "power" over anyone, there's just specific people who upload the content, protect the sheet in case people start shitposting in it, and do streams.
Any anon is free to join, they can do album art, song art, sing, edit songs for other people, write lyrics, etc. There arent really any rules besides you cant reuse a song that has been done already and that lyrics have to be posted specifically for the musical, so any song that was written on a random /v/ thread during the year is disqualified.
The usual order of things goes:
-Writefag writes a song
-Posts in the spreadsheet the pastebin of the lyrics the song, alongside the original song and an instrumental
-Singfag shows up and sings it (it doesnt always happen, many songs end up unsung)
-Either singfag edits his own songs or they send it to an editfag to edit it for them (add effects like reverb, compression, autotune if needed)
-Post the final result in the spreadsheet
-Artfag sees a song without any art
-Draws an art for it
-Adds it to the spreadsheet
-Videofag sees song in the spreadsheet
-Makes a music video for it

Not all songs get music videos or art tho

>> No.19216897

>>19216595
>unless you were already making it to some degree august of last year
isn't one of the nijimales someone whose past life barely had 10ccv

>> No.19216977

>>19216897
>isn't one of the nijimales someone whose past life barely had 10ccv
yes. that was Vox. who was a vtuber for a total of 3 weeks when his community begged him to get a model after 3+ years of content creation on youtube.

>> No.19217115

>>19215548
>>19216134
Do you know what month/time of year it happens?

>> No.19217214

>>19216595
Yes, I meant for after the next auditions end. Because yes there will be.

>> No.19217353

>>19217115
Nevermind I think it got answered above, arigato anon-chamas.

>> No.19217416

>>19216977
no i meant one of the gen 2s

>> No.19217697

>>19217416
don't know which one you're talking about then

>> No.19218424

>>19216595
yeah its something I just realized lately and it kinda fucked me up when I finally thought "trying to please every anon on this site would drive me insane"

>>19216768
man I used to think that there's no way anyone would talk like /v/tards irl until I met one in Senior Year HS. It was like a christmas carol ghost showing me what I could have become. fuckin terrifying and actually got me on the track to improving myself

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>>19218424
>you are now aware that legacy /v/tards are literally that one kid/group of LOL SO WACKY nerds who think non sequiturs are the peak of comedy
>you are now aware that legacy /v/tards were always the prototype for zoomer humor, despite their insistence that they're totally not like those goshdarned kids
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4Ph02gzqmY

>> No.19220377

>>19218424
>trying to please every anon
i don't know why anyone would think this is a good idea.

>> No.19220623

>reverse babiniku able to get into corpo
babiniku bros..

>> No.19221098

>>19220623
reverse babiniku is way more appealing than regular one, i just ask myself why not just be a tomboy at that point but whatever

>> No.19221238

>>19220623
I liked Sonny a lot, Uki is a really laid back dude.
Other three didn't really seem all that special, given me a lot more hope for you /asp/ies
You can do it bros

>> No.19221448

>>19220623
Reverse babi has appeal, straigh tbabi does not.

>> No.19221642

>>19221238
>Other three didn't really seem all that special, given me a lot more hope for you /asp/ies
it's the exact opposite. if they don't seem special that means they have vastly more talent behind the scenes. all of them can sing except for cyborg guy who like Vox only has "ikemen voice" as a talent.

>> No.19221694

>>19220623
If any babi try to get in Niji/Holo and end up success, they will just give him a male character model(even your voice is Mashiro tier).

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>>19221694
>Niji
but what about

>> No.19222470

>>19222428
japan has different cultural values you fucking retard

>> No.19222639

>>19222470
Right is korean first of all, the real issue isn't that they would/wouldn't, it's that they already have the models made and then they just give it to one of the auditioners. If they continued to release waves they'd eventually do a trap just so they're repeating themselves.

>> No.19222724

>>19222639
>real issue isn't that they would/wouldn't, it's that they already have the models made
wasn't the case for either Luxiem or Noctyx so don't know where you're pulling that shit out from.

>> No.19223263

>>19222428
They're male.

>> No.19223635

Sonny, if you read this i want to congratulate you on living the dream and thank you for giving me hope

>> No.19223740

>>19216134
>>19215548
>>19216824
cool, i was thinking that since for whatever reason, vtubers place such importance on original songs and music shit, the next sings could be something similar to /v/ the musical instead of another vocaloid/jpop cover. still gotta think about it some more

>> No.19223823

>>19223740
there are some anons that have been doing lyricedits for songs similar to that in /wvt/ so you could probably find people to do lyric edits that are vtuber themed in general

>> No.19224053

>>19223823
Those lyric parodies are a 4chins staple at this point
Singing that MGR one is probably my biggest contribution to this board

>> No.19224056

>>19223635
Thanks!

>> No.19224231

>many of NijiEN knowing Elira before joining
>Hanamori can collab with corpos because they're friends with the talents
>Kenji (and probably a bunch of others, I didn't keep track) promoted Doctor Death a lot
>now see Mousey and Bubi (though granted, Bubi is Connor)
Proof that a large part of success nowadays comes from who you know given how many chuubas there are in the market.

>> No.19224370

>>19224231
Networking and relationship is important yes.

>> No.19224428

>>19223823
yeah i've seen those. i've also been wanting to do something like orchestr/a/. there are supposedly a lot of people that play instruments here

>> No.19224610

>>19224231
that's the case for every industry. that's why the saying "it doesn't matter what you know, it matters who you know" is repeated so often. it's nepotism all the way down.

>> No.19224840

>>19224610
I mean, you could argue that it wasn’t one of the most important factors in the very early days of VTubing. Same with the very early days of streaming or even content creation in general.

We have so many top content creators now who were mainly early movers that grew with the platform they were on. The networking came after the fact. Unfortunately, we’re already “late” so networking is already an absolute must for 99.99%.

>> No.19224987

>>19224840
>wasn’t one of the most important factors in the very early days of VTubing
yes because when an industry is just starting it's called Early Mover's/Adopter's Advantage. they're able to break through the usual grind by taking advantage of the novel buff. those people eventually become the ones who wield nepotism powers once an industry is established.

>> No.19225422

>>19223740
>vtubers place such importance on original songs and music shit

Well there's a good reason. Youtube is an ASS with copyright, and doing a song cover or parody is NOT protected by copyright.

>> No.19225555

>>19224840
>>19224987
Yes it becomes harder but not impossible.
Would be nice to just have a friend help you out but thats not always the case. Thats why NETWORKING IS IMPORTANT.

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>>19224987
I remember watching an autistic video essay years and years ago before it was a meme in my own defense explaining precisely why Pewdiepie had exploded in terms of numbers
Combination of algo, the fact that he was a non-burger so he got buffed as "#1 streamer in [whatever country he's from, Sweden IIRC]" which drew attention, the type of content he made, etc. And even then, the writing was on the wall that his meteoric rise was a perfect storm of factors that would almost never come for any other content creator.
You could say the same of "diamond in the rough" youtube singers who become professionals and/or AAA recording artists, it was a thing a decade+ ago... now, there's a billion cover singers on the platform and few have an actual chance of Making It.

>> No.19225578

>>19224231
No one ever said networking wasn't important, there's no need to prove anything. Your content still matters and if people didn't like it, they wouldn't stay. Networking will get you exposure, that's it. There's plenty of people with famous friends who aren't pulling in the same crazy numbers or reaping those same benefits. Posts like this feel like they're leaning more towards cope. You aren't ngmi because you don't have famous friends.

>>19224987
Not all the early adopters are pulling large amounts of viewers though. There's people I saw around back in late 2019/early 2020 who still haven't hit partner, they've been hardstuck at 40-50 viewers despite putting in all the work, having all the connections, etc. Some people aren't entertaining enough to make it, that's just how it is.

>> No.19225711

>>19224231
>anon discovers networking
There ain't a single desirable job that's not gatekept by networking, unless you desire to do menial labor. And even then knowing someone will get you in a uniform and installing drywall or flipping patties faster. College is an expensive debt-funded networking event, not job training.

>> No.19225822

>>19225572
I know exactly what video you are talking about.
Yeah Pewdiepie had a lot good things going for him.
Reminder that he met his gf now wife Marzia through fucking YouTube's mail system that used to exist waaay back when (kinda like DMs). Marzia's friend showed her a video of Pewds before he really blew up and she sent him a message, they started flirting and now they're married. Like holy shit that sounds like a movie, the fact the relationship lasted throughout the years and it actually worked despite living in different countries makes me believe in Soulmates.

If I was Pewdiepie, I'd definetly have Main Character syndrome because of how amazing life and luck has worked for him (not including the controversies).

>> No.19225869

>>19225555
>Thats why NETWORKING IS IMPORTANT.
checked but successfully networking with bigger chuubas is as rare as making it big on your own. you think ironmouse gives a shit about new people? she's filled up her book of contacts. you'll need to do something big enough to wow her to even appear on her radar let alone give a shit about promoting you. just imagine how many hundreds of DMs they're getting each week from a random 1 day old twitter account asking for promotion because they have this one killer design that'll revolutionize vtubing.

>>19225572
>now, there's a billion cover singers on the platform and few have an actual chance of Making It.
yes. this is why pointing to people who have already made it and using them as an example to follow isn't a winning strategy. asp loves to repeat ludwig's video and while it does have good fundamental and basic information, it does nothing to actually help your growth. because now that's just it it's the bare minimum fundamentals you need to even begin as a streamer. shit moves fast and it's too easy to get complacent and end up left behind.

>>19225578
>Not all the early adopters are pulling large amounts of viewers though.
this is just nitpicking. you have retards like Mocca who got a huge boost as an early adopter and then proceeded to fuck it up. anyone who fucks it up like mocca would fail just as hard. and you have chuubas like Artemis who shilled perfectly and now coasts with 500 CCV even now playing literal minesweeper at a third grade level.

in the end it only matters how good you are at continuing your growth as a chuuba. it just happened that most people active early on all got a big novelty boost that will never happen again in 2022. some of them fumbled that boost others didn't.

>> No.19225928

>>19225578
Its true, a lot of content creator friends dont do well because they dont have the talent/personality that is warranted to have an audience. Or maybe theyre already too similar to the CC.
I think a lot of us can feel discouraged thinking "Man if I had X as a friend, I'd definetly be able to make it quicker and would be sucessful because I have Y that makes me unique and different".
In other words, another "if only people gave me a chance" kinda thing.

>> No.19226081

>>19225928
>another "if only people gave me a chance" kinda thing.
Bae was a 30 CCV nobody in a black corpo on youtube until someone gave her a chance. some people are able to take advantage of an opportunity and others aren't. have you been developing your skills to the point where you can not only notice an opportunity but also take advantage of it when it comes?

>> No.19226159

>>19226081
whats CCV?

>> No.19226165

>>19226081
to supplement your point
>obligatory "Nene auditioned 5[? right?] times" post
persistence has its own merits and can sometimes work in the stead of muh nepotism

>> No.19226217

>>19226159
concurrent viewers

>> No.19226259

>>19226081
Im not actually a vtuber, I make different youtube content.
I just want a place to talk about content creation on 4chan and this is the only board that seems to have it and allow it, since /v/ gets angry whenever someone tries to shill their shit for obvious reasons.
I really wish there was a /yt/ board

>> No.19226822

>>19224428
there's at least two trombonists in this thread and probably some people that play guitar if i had to guess

>> No.19228872

fucking sick of toxic positivity

>> No.19229255
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i can't really seem to find the perfect balance for an outfit im making for my model.. it's either too simple or too complex. any tips?

>> No.19229397

>>19229255
I think it's really cute anon, I think it's simplicity is very nice to the eye. Maybe add an accessory that contrasts and gathers attention over the blue color scheme.

>> No.19229457

>>19229255
I think it looks fine, the fingerless gloves are cute. I don't think the amount of simplicity it has is bad at all

>> No.19229699

>>19229255
What's your too complex version look like? Either way it's not so simple it's boring like a school uniform, it's a simple design but it's unique at least, so that's something.
I ran into this problem too but eventually just decided to go with a cleaner design.

>> No.19230205

>>19229255
I'd try adding an accent color stripe to the sleeves. Skirt could probably use one too.

>> No.19230613

>Kizuna graduated
>Practically none of the envtubing scene on Twitter even knows who she is
Fuck I hate this scene. I wish I was a voice actor-singer who knows big names and can get the corpo buff so I could skip this networking shit.

>> No.19230790

>>19230613
Kizuna AI had little to no impact on contemporary vtubing as we know it. Millennials cling to her because they were just exposed early, when it was a novel concept but nothing she did was notable in the field as a vtuber. Go bitch about the old days and wag your cane at zoomers so more, that'll definitely do the trick and rewind the clock 5 years.

>> No.19230902

>>19230790
She did "nothing notable"? Everyone else literally just copied her. You zoomtubers have no idea why you're even where you are right now.

>> No.19230984

Q for the mic hardware anons. I have a Wave 3. What's a good upgrade from this? I've been using this for a little over a year and have enough finances saved to spare for a new mic around $200 at most. I'm okay with changing over to the XLR format if necessary.

My biggest concern was the difference between Condenser and Dynamic mics. The Wave 3 is a Condenser mic, which I've been reading, picks up a lot of background noise and I think this true for me since you can definitely hear the echo in my room. Is a Dynamic mic really much better in my case and if so, which dynamic mic would fit my price budget while also being a step up from the Wave 3?

>> No.19231029

>>19230790
>Kizuna AI had little to no impact on contemporary vtubing as we know it.
Because vtubing now is full of kinfags.

>> No.19231152

>>19230902
millennial cope at its finest

>> No.19231193

>>19230984
The Shure SM58 is basically the eternal dynamic recommendation at around 100 bucks. That leaves the rest of your budget for a Behringer UM2 and a mic stand/arm.

>> No.19231351

>>19231193
Thanks anon. I've been looking at that one for a bit now since it keeps coming up. Is there anything special I should be keeping in mind for it? I've got a pop filter already, planning to just reuse that and I don't really need a windsock since I'm indoors. But is there anything you'd recommend I get along with it?

I've got a decent mic arm for my Wave 3 already and I figure any new mic I get will come with its own attachment clips and shit that use the standard thread sizes.

One last dumb question. If I want to try ASMR is it possible to use my Wave 3 and the SM58 as "left" and "right" channels? Just don't want to put the Wave 3 away into storage since it's a pretty good mic so I figure I could still get some use out of it?

>> No.19231619

>>19231351
A condenser mic is better at picking up small sounds, so the Wave 3 would be more suited to ASMR-type content even if it isn't binaural.
The SM58 (and dynamics in general) are frequently used on stage for live performances because they do a better job capturing loud sounds, the opposite of what you want for ASMR type recordings, not to mention the hassle of getting both to record their own tracks simultaneously.

Basically, use the SM58 for screaming and the Wave 3 for whispering.

>> No.19231680

>>19231351
can't really go wrong with the rode podmic either. whatever you end up going with, it's a good idea to speak off axis into the mic
https://youtu.be/sr8c5sgkkvc

>> No.19231868

>>19231619
Makes sense. Thanks for the responses, anon.

>>19231680
Well shit, they're about the same price. Guess I'll read up on the Rode PodMic a bit before pulling the trigger. Thanks for the video too.

>> No.19232120

>>19230984
>picks up a lot of background noise
Anon just literally lower your gain and speak clearly at a fist's length from your mic. If you have enough finance, instead of buying another mic you're better off having some soundproofing and acoustic treatment for your room, especially if you're used to the sound of condensers since a dynamic might sound pretty dead for you

>> No.19232177

How do you stop your breathing noises from being picked up? Right now I literally mute every breath.

>> No.19232425

>>19232177
Use something like OBS noise gate feature.

>> No.19232549

>>19232177
Noise gate like anon said - I would also recommend a condenser filter as well.

>> No.19233063

>>19230613
>so I could skip this networking shit
are you really this upset no one wants to talk about kizuna ai with you?

>> No.19234046

>>19203158
Honestly, I should probably start doing what research I can now so that I can find one and be ready to bounce since it seems like most good riggers are always full on people.

>> No.19234795

>>19234046
I feel like there's always some who are vacant but the best are busy or closed. Hope you have a fat wallet

>> No.19234902

Your first rigging really doesn't need to be that good.

>> No.19235119
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Any advice on cheap and temporary sound treatment? I was looking into foam panels but seems like everyone shits on them.

>> No.19235230

>>19235119
Pillows and blankets.

>> No.19235251

>>19235119
blankets on the walls directly behind and in front of you work. you can get a bunch of moving blankets for very cheap and hang them up with duct tape. those 2 walls are the most important to treat

>> No.19235826

>>19235251
Why?

>> No.19236056

The new NijiEN with the fem voice has made me completely reconsider my model choice. Would anyone watch a male (female) who sounds like a man?

>> No.19236126

>>19236056
That's an entire genre of yuri

>> No.19236251

>>19236056
how much of a man do you sound like? vocaroo?

>> No.19236380

>>19236126
Fuck, nice. Might have to do some research.
>>19236251
https://voca.ro/1aveyvvGhQAD
Got told I sounded like Ike Eveland last thread, and I've been told I have a sort of nerdy voice. I feel like there'd be more of a market for cool, suave women, though.

>> No.19236537

>>19236380
I feel like I heard someone completely different say this exact thing on vocaroo. Where are people getting this script from?

I don't think your voice matching a deep-voiced woman unless you can change the pitch more. I envision you more as a bishounen with glasses.

>> No.19236701

>>19206236
imagine being all "no fun allowed"
Let people have their fun. If their fun is imagining themselves fucking you in the ass, you can't deny them, that would require brainwashing, so may as well profit off it.

>> No.19236863

>>19229255
>flesh fang

>> No.19237024

>>19236537
It's Jermacraft!
And that's totally fair, I appreciate your honesty. If I raise my voice, I sound like I'm trying way too hard, so that might be a pass.
I'm stuck in a cool position where I either sound like a babi or I am one. I don't want to lead people on and make them think I'm male irl.

>> No.19237034

I've been streaming for a while, I get my two viewers, but I don't see any other avenue of growth working.
Anything else you could do to help growth? I do small videos, Memes, Attempt to not be controversial but I have found that nothing really changes anything.

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>furfag vtuber
>make friends with people who hate furfags anyway because they think i'm cool
>they like my sense of humor and come to the stream
i think i can make it bros

>> No.19237412

>>19237342
Congrats, anon! I'm happy for you.

>> No.19237817

>>19237024
Wtf you're female? Suddenly the vocaroo is incredibly hot. I might recommend using an androgynous model then. Good luck, you're gonna make it.

>> No.19238132

I remember there being a JP site where people post backgrounds for free, can someone link it since I can't find it.

>> No.19238259

>>19237817
Haha, thank you so much! And yeah, I am. Been working on a curvy tomboyish model - I'm just not sure whether to stick with that or go for more of a reverse trap. Suppose I'll just have to play around with designs.

>> No.19239854

>>19212044
Spent over 500$ going to a professional vocal therapist who works with trans women, could definitely say it was worth it. Online guides are terrible for learning how to train a voice.

>> No.19241685

>>19239854
Does it strain your voice at all? What makes therapy so special? I know there's more to a feminine voice than a high register, but I'm blanking as to what that would entail.

>> No.19243092

>>19181581
How do you function on the internet without having ublock origin?

>> No.19244594

Games you should avoid when trying to build an initial audience since there are already too many chuubas playing it
>Valorant
>Elden Ring
>League of Legends
>Apex
>Pokémon
>Genshin Impact

>> No.19245200

>>19244594
Let me put it more simply, Go to browse on Twitch. The first 20 games you see, avoid them (For exception of Just Chatting).

>> No.19246436

I'm thinking of doing a comfy late night radio stream, is this voice suitable?

https://voca.ro/11HTEJ4xfZLI

>> No.19246475

What does “searches” mean on Twitch analytics?

>> No.19246512

>>19246436
sure
but your mic pops a ton

>> No.19246675

>>19212044
I'm thinking of going to a proper vocal teacher, but for now I've been setting aside 5-10 mins a day doing vocal exercises for the past week and it's been amazing. They really help on your endurance and consistency, especially if you like to sing screamy stuff like JAM Project

>> No.19246788

>>19244594
Disagree on Genshin Impact. I’ve had pretty consistent growth playing Genshin from zero and some fans of that game stick around and watch me play other games too. The reason why it’s a good game for a vtuber to play is because it’s very popular in vtuber and anime circles (aka people who would click on the vtuber tag). Playing a game like Genshin with an active community is the perfect game for finding other vtubers and streamers to make friends with (but you still can’t neglect being entertaining). Disclaimer: My Genshin playthrough is a first playthrough (so I use the first playthrough tag) so results may vary.

>> No.19247233

>>19237034
Think about the type of person you want to hang out with. Are you a person that likes RPGs? Or FPS? Then target those games. Next step is to look for a high follower but low streamer game, this will give you consistent growth. Last is making friends with other streamers, this will open opportunities for raids and regulars in chat. This is all for Twitch btw. “Just be yourself” is the key to making it without burning out. I’d also recommend dabbling with TikTok for growth than spending time on YouTube videos unless you can afford an editor.

>> No.19247241
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>>19180853
Bit of a stupid question, but implying you're an indie chuuba who streams regularly and you're getting contacted by a scout, how do you verify they're legit?

>> No.19247365

>>19247241
Never accept any contact that asking give them money first.

>> No.19247386

>>19213591
Well i applied because i really liked that they accepted kiara - also they get to be into games sometimes and i couldnt think of anything greater than being a playable char in a game. Would take that over being rich.

Also, while we are at it. I drew my char on a paper but how the fuck do you draw noses?!?!?! I can draw a human nose that somewhat passes but anime noses i am just to bad. Like i wanna have a nose but i want it to be like anime.
Ofc i am a starting artist.

Also i started learning japanese and i am seriously thinking about ignoring how to write. Like just learn talking and understanding because fuck kanji. That shit deserves to be rape corrected

>> No.19247601

>>19247241
not a dumb question
ask for them to prove in any way that they work for the company they are saying they are working for
trust your gut a bit

>> No.19247725

>>19236380
You don't sound like a woman at all. Your voice is good, but people won't believe you if you say you are (a real) female, unless you're simply identifying as one. Going for a male/bishounen is your best bet.

>> No.19248230

>>19206236
I don’t have an NSFW tag nor am I okay with someone making NSFW of me (unless it’s soft core stuff like maybe erotic poses in clothing I could probably tolerate). That’s because I don’t want my brand associated with things like that. I am male btw.

>> No.19248613

>>19248230
coward

>> No.19248668

>>19241685

Resonance, Pitch, and intonation all matter as well women tend to slur words together whereas men are more clipped in how they speak. A lot of little things make a huge difference.

>> No.19248752

>>19248230
R34 takes no survivors, just take it on the chin, it's not like you have to acknowledge it

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>finally started streaming
>now i can't get money from twitch
Guess I have to use YouTube of learn things from CN streamers.

>> No.19249889

>>19226259
Same, i genuinely wonder what an /asp/ for regular YouTubers would look like, or how the equivalent to /wvt/ would work

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>>19248230
>Conditions of use: Avatar use: YES/Violence: YES/Sexual acts: YES/
Can I bite your cock (female) with my shark teeth?

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>>19229255
Are you still in the thread? I don't want to open up paint and you miss it.

>> No.19250697

>>19232177
Noise suppression and you should probably turn down your gain

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>>19229255
>>19250225
9000 Years in Paint

I think what you're looking for is just a bit more asymmetry, juicy details, and higher contrast shading. Very cute, btw.

>> No.19251370

>>19251293
>band-aid on the knee
god i hate this trope

>> No.19251401

>one of the new NijiEN males is a team fortress 2 youtuber
>all his past content is just team fortress 2 videos

more evidence that all you need to do is make content and you'll get there someday.

>> No.19251524

>>19251401
Okay, but which NijiEN was he friends with before applying?

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>>19251370
Better?

>> No.19251603

>>19251401
He must give some really good head.

>> No.19251627

>>19251553
h-hot

>> No.19251633

>>19251524
it's the purple gay one

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>>19251553

>> No.19252006

>>19251293
>band-aid
AAAAA FUCK OFF

>> No.19252190

>>19239854
Honestly doesn’t sound too terrible considering bad technique can set you back months and more money at the doctors. I might start putting some aside.
>>19246675
Yea that’s what I’ve been doing now, basic shit from https://youtu.be/PjETXaGWPOY to be precise. Definitely seems to help

>> No.19252360

All these /vt/ people complaining about the new niji chuuba being an ESL are destroying my confidence. I'm just gonna stick to /asp/ ;_;

>> No.19252427

>>19252360
post voice so we can drive you away from this place too

>> No.19252497

>>19252360
/vt/ audience literally doesn't matter unless you want to be an ebin 4chan streamer

>> No.19252524

>>19252360
If I had to guess, those kinds of people probably don't make up the majority of the vtuber audience. I personally don't have a problem with accents or even the occasional grammatical mistake from ESLs, I just need to be able to understand you and you need to be able to speak clearly and at an even pace for me to get invested

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19252653

>>19252006

>> No.19252757

>>19252360
>luka
>Ike
>shu
don't worry about it

>> No.19252858

>>19246675
What kinda voice exercises are you doing? that michael jackson one?

>> No.19252866

>>19252360
>/vt/ people complaining
this is a good thing. you are offputting to schizos and retards. they'll leave you alone so you can cultivate a base that likes watching you. why do so many of you aspies want to appeal to 4chan so much it's fucking weird.

>> No.19252913

>>19252653
I never asked for this

>> No.19253051

>>19247365
That sounds like some middle school tier kind of bait. But you're not wrong.

>>19247601
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. How would they go and prove that they're legit? Like will they use an official account to message you or something?

>> No.19253080

>>19252360
Just do it, who knows if you'll succeed.

>> No.19253324

>>19252427
https://voca.ro/155OS2v9soqb

>>19252497
>>19252524
>>19252866
hey good way(s) to put it. Guess I've been lurking /here/ for too long

>> No.19253353
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19253353

>>19253051
HoloDead EN Co. Ltd.,
123 Fake Street, Nowhere
Tel: (800) SUI-CIDE


Hello! My is John Smith, I am a talent scout for YouTubers and Streamers on behalf of Katawa Shoujo Co. Ltd., Our group has recently been considering you, Anonymous Ch., among 10 other candidates for our HoloDead EN Gen 1 tryouts! If you are perhaps interested in our official tryouts this coming March, please fill out this form at ipgrabber.socialsecuritynumber.io and e-mail me at Yagoo@HoloDead.com! We look forward to hearing from you, keep staying strong and thank you for uploading such fun and exciting streams!

Sincerely, John Yagoo Smith

>> No.19253469

>>19253051
yea, i would say at least being able to use an official acount to message is something that an employee would be able to do easily
but there are more ways of proving, just say something like
>Is there any way for you to prove to me this is not a scam?

>> No.19253484

>>19253324
C-cute!!

>> No.19253528

>>19253324
your accent sounds vaguely "generic european"

>> No.19253546

>>19253324
very cute accent my dude
I want to bully you sexually now

>> No.19253561

>>19253324
some people are into accents and other ESLs probably don't care
i still would recommend a bit of voice training so you can reduce it a bit
you are cute
i like your voice

>> No.19253604

>>19253324
my boots, your balls!

>> No.19253611

>>19252858
I ran through multiple youtube channels and combine their exercises together, but the exercises are pretty much the same as MJ's

>> No.19253673

>>19253353
This is actually pretty accurate, typos and all.

>> No.19253942

>>19253528
nice guess, but I am one of the much dreaded seanig

>>19253561
thanks for the tip!

>>19253546
>>19253604
I am scared

>> No.19253970

>>19253942
>seanig
don't do that. stop using 4chan lingo.

>> No.19253999

>>19180853
Now thats a nice OP

>> No.19254030

>>19253970
okay sir

>> No.19254262

>>19253942
I'm gonna second what that other anon said: don't let my fat, retarded countrymen convince you that you need to call yourself a nig. Those motherfuckers don't go outside

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQQYIFz2f70

Shilling myself again before I go fuck off about my day. I hope >>19229255 sees pic related. If someone sees her around, I'm sure she'd appreciate getting to.

Also, I honestly really recommend this video. I honestly really like this kind of discussion stream and I got good feedback from my viewers. Keep staying strong, gg gl, /asp/

>>19253999
Some of the stuff contradicts itself but it's good indeed nonetheless.

>> No.19254341

4chin is unironically better for your mental health than any other social media platform out there

>> No.19254380

>>19254341
lol, no it's not.

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>>19254341
>4chan is a social media platform

>> No.19254525

>>19254262
T-thanks anon

>> No.19254630

>>19254393
It totally is. Forums and bulletin boards of the past were also social media platforms.

>> No.19254702

>>19254525
from now on you are a seabro. a seaman, even. or a seawoman.

>> No.19254762

What is the best fingerless glove pattern? (Finger covered/uncovered)

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>>19254525
my.
boots.
your.
balls!

dumb semenanon

>>19254762
>fingerless glove
>fingers covered
What?

>> No.19254821

>>19254762
artist glove, pinkie and ring fingers coveret. rest exposed.
>>19254788
fuck off to /wvt/ you're just as bad as the crocodile babi who thought they were hot shit until he went a month with zero views.

>> No.19254845

>>19254630
They had a way to distinguish a user throughout the entire platform allowing to create connections between users. This site is anonymous by design.

>> No.19254932

>>19254845
i would argue it's still a social media site, you spend hours and hours interaction with people through image and text

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>>19254762
https://www.google.com/search?q=long+sleeve+fingerless+gloves
https://www.google.com/search?q=driving+gloves
https://www.google.com/search?q=fingerless+gloves
https://www.google.com/search?q=motorcycle+fingerless+gloves
https://www.google.com/search?q=tactical+fingerless+gloves

Do any of these help? For a girl character you probably want to consider long sleeve fingerless gloves.

>> No.19254984

>>19254845
That just makes this an anonymous social media network. I'm not going to argue that this place is "better for your mental health" than any mainstream sites, though.
I'm really not trying to get your goat or anything here, honest.

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>>19254821
You seem insecure about your own view stats, anon.

>> No.19255339

>>19254821
personally i think they're much more annoying and worse i just don't engage with any of their posts

>> No.19255414

>>19254821
>>19254992
>>19255339
See >>19252866

>> No.19255464

>he's sending his discord to raid the thread again
at least >we've already hit the bump limit and it'll die soon

>> No.19255614

Do you think having 20-30 CCV without any shilling is doing well?

>> No.19255660

>>19255614
sounds pretty solid! how long have you been going for?

>> No.19255727

>>19255660
A bit more than a year! I just can't help comparing myself to friends :c Always got that annoying fear that nobody will show up.. u.u

>> No.19255728

>>19255614
amazing
way better than the average

>> No.19255748

>>19255727
>Always got that annoying fear that nobody will show up.. u.u
>without any shilling
anon....

>> No.19255756

He's been raiding /asp/ so many times, it's so god damn annoying.

>> No.19255793

>>19255756
you know he's only doing it because he's scared as fuck about getting judged by schizos in /wvt/ or the even the front desk which is why he shits up the aspie thread of beginners.

>> No.19255809

>>19255748
yeah okay fair enough hahaha

>> No.19256177

>>19255727
that's awesome! i've been going for about the same amount of time with about a 10 ccv; i definitely get the feeling of no one showing up even at this point

>> No.19256285

>>19255809
>>19256177
I've found it helpful to just keep in mind future viewers. Also if you're on YouTube the CCV counter isn't exactly accurate or reliable. Even if it's just one friend watching quality > quantity, always. Inviting your audience to play games/draw together with you is really therapeutic too.

>>19255756
>>19255793
As much as I enjoy making examples of how to deal with thin-skinned toxins for /asp/ to observe, please try derailing future thread less if your illness permits it. Like >>19255339. Just don't engage and adapt, it'll get you quite far in life (and streaming).

>> No.19256327

>>19234795
Doubt it'll be seen since the thread is about to be gone, but I have about $3k I'm willing to spend between the model/rigging so I should be able to find someone good or decent.

>> No.19256437

>>19256327
Make sure your computer can handle the streaming software, model software, high-graphics game settings, and dual monitor too. VMagicMirror uses more resources than the games themselves for me.

>> No.19256456

>>19256285
I’m pretty sure you’re the only one with some kind of mental illness here.

>> No.19256545

>>19256456
yikes

>> No.19256646

>>19254934
What about male?

>> No.19256678

>>19256646
Don't get too edgy and balance the level of detail with your overall design. Unless you have gestures/hand tracking it's not a priority, imo.

>> No.19256945

don't know where to put this but it's growth related so i'll ask aspies. what do you think is causing the difference in later gens growth?

nijisanji en has been pushing out a ton of waves but each wave grows slower and hits a cap sooner than the previous. males got a big buff from novelty but even males wave 2 is seeing the same growth pattern from Lazulight to Obysidia.

where as in japan, every new gen seems to be hitting milestones much faster and holoX skyrocketed much faster than any of the previous gens. looking at holoEN, wave 2 in the west is having the same trouble of not keeping up with wave 1 in terms of growth.

any idea what causes this pattern in the west but not japan?

>> No.19257162

>>19256945
Wrong thread.

>> No.19257208

>>19256945
i think you should ask numbers

>> No.19257260

>>19256945
This >>19257208

>> No.19257505

>>19256285
Like him or not he's got a point though, it happens all the time where my chat mods need to remind chat the same. Shadow banning as a concept works really well.

>> No.19257555

>>19256437
I have a 3080, Ryzen 3900, and 32GB of Ram so I imagine I shouldn't have any issues. Worst comes to worst I can upgrade my CPU if I go need some extra performance.

>> No.19257616

>>19257555
oh yeah you're fine lmao

Get it done.

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