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/auds/ Thread # 26: Hololive EN Gen 2 Auditions Close! Edition

Active Auditions
Hololive EN Gen 2
>Deadline: Friday, March 26, 2021, 11:59 PM (JST)
https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1360061826629705738

Air Asia
>Deadline: March 28th, 2021
https://twitter.com/airasia/status/1369479754869469184

What is /auds/?
A thread where we discuss our vtuber aspirations! Where it's agency-based or independent, let's help each other grow and make it as entertainers. Indies are welcome to join, but shill responsibility. Share what knowledge, insights, what works/doesn't work for you.

FAQ:
Do I need an expensive rigged Live2D model to be a vtuber?
You do not! A simple .png avatar can be enough to get started.

Where can I learn how to Live2D rig avatars?
Brian Tsui of Iron Vertex has many tutorials available on his youtube channel

RESOURCES:
/auds/ OP Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/zuUBUbGG
/auds/ Resources Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/AJLkFrGK

Stay grounded, stay hopeful.

Previous Thread: >>1818385

>> No.1908151

I have the money but not the creativity, I want to get an artist make an oc for me.. even if I won't use it as a vtuber model. Help?

>> No.1908264

I am about to submit my audition... I am so nervous,even though I know the chances are so slim I feel like being rejected will affect me a lot.

What did you do to avoid this feeling? Any tips you can suggest?

>> No.1908281

>>1908151
look for someone offering character design commissions and provide them as much information as possible. mood board, frankenstien a composite image of bits and pieces you want, written descriptions, etc. ask the artist what they need from you.

>>1908264
you don't avoid it, just embrace it. prepare for never getting a formal rejection and just move on. you should be getting right back to your content creating reps tomorrow after submitting the audition application.

>> No.1908286

>>1908151
>I have the money but not the creativity
Usually a sign that VTubing is not for you. If you can't come up with your own design, then how are you going to entertain anyone watching you?

>> No.1908296

>>1908286
that's a fucking dogshit take. i don't know how to make a piano but i can still play it fucking well.

>> No.1908319

>>1908296
This is the worst metaphore I've ever heard.

Also, there are plenty vtubers without a working model and with images that do better than ones who put thousands of $$$ into their rig, model and assets

>> No.1908327

>>1908281
I know, but i also know that you miss all the shots you dont take, so I had to try... And I feel that, if my best isn't enough, is there even any reason to go on?

Also, anybody knows how many people they will hire? When will they announce? Country restrictions? What are they looking for?

I can find absolutely no information on any of these topics

>> No.1908342

>>1908296
False equivalency. A VTuber model design is, for all intents and purposes, your brand. If you cannot create or design your brand on your own (i.e. you don't even make ref sheets and the like, instead just throwing money at artists) then it's not YOUR brand. It's just a brand you're attaching your name to. A brand that will decide the type of person that watches you, the kind of fanart you'll get, and a billion more factors. If you can't put in the effort for that, then you aren't going to put in effort in your content.

>>1908319 is also correct. Money will not "fix" your creative difficulties.

>> No.1908349

anon, there are only 4 IPs, we can tell when you're tagging yourself

>> No.1908357

>>1908264
just do it. the more times you fail the less you will care. if you've truly tried your hardest, there's literally nothing you can lose by submitting

>> No.1908378

>>1908327
>And I feel that, if my best isn't enough, is there even any reason to go on?
is this implying self harm? please don't.
you shouldn't make your sole purpose in life to be "become Hololive idol", anon. your best now might not be enough, but that's why you gotta keep doing your reps.

>> No.1908406

>>1908357
Yeah I know. But it also may be my only chance to actually make it into a career

>> No.1908523
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Relevant for those of you looking for an artist/rigger for Live2D. 2wintails comes highly recommended, not just because she made my models as well. Great to work with all around

>> No.1908604
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1908604

I have a character in mind, but no artistic skills or enough disposable income to just buy a model outright, so I was thinking about commissioning an artist for a decent-looking PNG to use while I dip my toes in the water. Are there any tips for finding and commissioning an artist, specifically one that can draw a Mazinger or Getter-looking dude? I've never commissioned an artist before.

In addition, I'm struggling a bit to come up with actual things to stream. Besides gaming itself, currently I have: Japanese language study (not Duolingo), karaoke streams, and zatsudans set over slower RPG games I might want to play. I don't really have much else in the way of talents. I like creative writing; would it be at all interesting to stream myself writing a short story, maybe incorporating CYOA elements like a quest?

>> No.1908639

Pretend, hypothetically, that I'm an EOP trying to send an email to a Japanese artist about commissions. Should I send them something in English with a machine translation afterwards or just send them the machine translation? Or some other third thing?

>> No.1908653

>>1908639
>Should I send them something in English with a machine translation afterwards
Always try this using DeepL. It may still get lost in translation, but just posting said translation and not the original English as well is inviting problems.

>> No.1908658

>>1908639
if you're doing it through Skeb, they explicitly say NOT to do your own translations.
if you're doing it through any other means, probably? DeepL is the best translator, toss it back and forth to make sure it's translating you correctly and the message isn't lost.

>>1908604
check out skeb
as for the creative writing thing, slugma did a fanfiction writing stream a while back and apparently it was pretty fun and silly. doable if you have enough viewers to bounce off of mad libs style.

>> No.1908662

>>1908639
some hire translators to send messages back and forth

>> No.1908687

>>1908406
it isn't lol. the world is huge. you'll find the thing you want to do, anon, even if it doesn't happen to be this

>> No.1908830

>>1908264
Drink excessively for a single night and then try again after the hang over

>> No.1909088

>>1908653
>>1908658
>>1908662
Thanks. Follow up, how should I refer to the artist? Full name? Surname-sensei?

>> No.1909117

>>1909088
i've never felt the need to. i usually open up with "hey, i really admire your work [point out piece that i kinda like the style of]. would love a [commission] in that style. [insert file format, size, my planned uses for it, etc.] " and it's seemed to work well so far.

>> No.1909197

>>1908658
Oh neat, I had no idea Skeb existed before now. Thanks! I'll check out that Slugma stream, too.

>> No.1909292

Good luck to everyone who's turning something in for Hololive! Less than 8 hours left.

>> No.1909413

What are the chances Cover would actually look at last minute auditions?

>> No.1909547

>>1909413
I’d say unless you are literally Jesus, a strong zero.

>> No.1909572

>>1909547
I'll a big fan of the guy(if he shows up) but I don't think 2nd Jesus would be a good Vtuber either

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>>1908687
>>1908378
>>1908357
>>1908342
>>1908281

Alright... Time to drink myself to death after tomorrow is over. Thank you anons for giving me the courage

>> No.1909861

>>1908523
I can't find any prices on her Twitter, approximately what does she charge?

>> No.1909955

>>1909861
If they're anything like her VROID work, she's probably way undervaluing herself.

>> No.1910093

>>1909413
If they didn't want to waste time on late submissions, they wouldn't have kept the window this long. A lot of earlier submissions may get weeded out too. They probably only give the first 0:30-1:00 of each audition a shot before they decide if you're worth keeping in the pile or not. Hope that's some consolation to procrastinators/people who spent too long on theirs.

>> No.1910214

>>1910093
please don't listen to anything this anon has said. having blind faith and unrealistic hope is not okay.

>> No.1910576

>>1908342
>If you cannot create or design your brand on your own then it's not YOUR brand. It's just a brand you're attaching your name to.
There is nothing wrong with that to be quite honest. If they can somehow deliver something, soulless content still sells if marketed well enough.

>> No.1910641

>>1908523
Always post samples of their work for reference
https://twitter.com/2wintails/status/1373697997406564357
>>1909955
Her L2D work is not bad. This rigging should be around $500, I think.

>> No.1912791
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1912791

Looking for some ideas.

My rigger gives each of their clients a free small "gift" with the rig, which seems to mean a very small animation or something similar.
Do any of you have ideas for something I should request? They brought up having my models visor glow which would be cool, but they also mentioned adding angry eyebrows or blushing since a helmeted character is otherwise pretty unexpressive. Something like that.

>> No.1912815

>>1909413
They will at least look at every single audition that is on time

>> No.1913252

>>1912791
A salute of sorts I would say but that doesn't seem to fit the "small gift" part, glow seems a bit bland, expression would be gimmicky but add some contrast to the otherwise stoic concept

>> No.1913600

>>1912791
You could get a stream mascot

Or maybe pressure steam for anger/surprise

>> No.1915764 [SPOILER] 
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Congratz ahead of time to all the anons who made it in hololive, I now await for your glorious designs.

>> No.1915915

>work long hours
>stressful and tiring lately (small business)
>also spending a bunch of time after work doing adult stuff and lately doing money management prep
>so tired and/or out of time I don't feel like digging around for an artist to commission
At this point I feel like I'm getting close to wanting to hire someone just to find me an artist to commission. Shit sucks. How long did it take you all to find an artist you liked? It's annoying because I had plenty of time to do this like... a week ago, and since then shits just a mess.

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Prism auditions are reopen
https://twitter.com/PRISMproj/status/1375371970963853317?s=20

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>>1915915
I autistically searched for weeks until I was satisfied and I still have second thoughts.

>> No.1916070

>>1909860
>>1908327
Something to remember:
They don't choose the handful that is the "best" out of the bunch. They choose a handful that has a good variety and is marketable for what they're looking for.

You could be expertly talented, extremely funny, immediately befriendable, and still, not make it in. Not because you're not good enough, but because they're looking for something different.

It's no different than if two people are on a first date together. One loves to hike and travel and talk to strangers. The other loves to stay home and cook and read by the fire and cultivate close relationships with friends and family. Neither of them are bad people. Neither of them are not good enough. But maybe the homebody wouldn't be comfortable staying in a hostel half a globe away with 12 other people in bunk beds, and maybe the traveler would feel cooped up in the same town every day.

They aren't a good fit for a relationship and the date won't go anywhere. But that doesn't mean that they're doomed in love. They're both appealing and loveable people.

This first date with hololive doesn't define if you're appealing and loveable.

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>>1916070
Wow what a nice description anon. Well said

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>>1915915
>>1916026
I feel like I really lucked out with finding an artist I liked. Only took me a couple days.

Finding a background artist on the otherhand is a fucking nightmare. The one artist I had my heart set on didn't accept my commission, so now I'm just browsing open coms for over an hour a day looking for somebody who's "good enough"

>> No.1916166

>>1909413
I'm sure if someone got views on their last minute audition they'd say so.

>> No.1916170

If you don't get in, keep walking, it's that simple, if you stop, you lose.

>> No.1916188

>>1912791
I like the idea of steam too. It could come out your ears or at the neck of the helmet, and fog up your visor a bit. It'd be versatile for being angry or being embarrassed. And if you don't like the idea of biological expressions on top of armor, it'd still keep to the relative realism.

>> No.1916355
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>>1916070
that made my day anon

>> No.1916812

Mfs be like "I dont have an idea for a design"
just steal one that dosent exist https://thisfursonadoesnotexist.com/

>> No.1917085

>have a well thought out idea
>everything fits together
>can't think of a name
wanna die

>> No.1917117

>>1916812
Now I would have to commission Sindoll.

>> No.1917164

>>1916026
Well that's unfortunate. I'm busy as fuck now but it's temporary, and I'd really like to get some of this process started before I have free time so I can use that to actually prep for vtubing, rather than spending it searching for an artist. I know what the design I want is, and the art style I want, but just gotta find an artist that can do something close to it. I'll have to set aside some time this weekend I guess.

>> No.1917303

>>1917085
Roll for a name

>> No.1917503

>>1917303
rollin

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1917582

I submitted my audition an hour late by JST, but it still went through, I even got a confirmation email. Do you think they'll see it?

>> No.1917876

>>1917582
Yeah, you got in champ... You got in...

>> No.1917909

>>1917085
I go too hard on names. Everything has to mean something, humorous or not, and I look up different languages to see what sounds good, even fictional ones.

>> No.1917947

Ok I am a dumbass, how do you effectively tag livestreams and shit in youtube? Like I feel I am definitely not getting myself into the algorithm like I should be.

>> No.1917957

>>1917876
that's a no huh

>> No.1917987

>>1917947
Get TubeBuddy

>> No.1918087

>>1917987
Thanks, I'll try it out!

>> No.1918218

>>1917503
What's you concept, at least allude to that if you want help

>> No.1918323
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Why there's so much gap between beginner + intermediate ($400- range) and professional ($800+) one?
it's like kiddie scribble vs Marvel artist drawing.
I can't really put in into words, but the professional rig one looks like there's so much soul in their movement. I know it's expected but the difference is pretty big. It's like there's a very big gap between intermediate rigger and professional rigger. While in normal art there's someone inbetween

>> No.1918590

>>1908151
>>1908151
>>1908342
This, look at Pekora's case, it's known that she went back and fort with her mama over and over again until the design satisfied her completely (thing that she has apologized for), but by persisting and shuffling around she ended with a look so iconic it's become a problem in itself to alter it for other purposes

>> No.1918729

>>1918323
Prices are pretty inflated to be quite honest with you. And the gap is pretty much the small details that add up to a lot.

>> No.1918784

>>1918323
Because theres an unfortunate supply and demand problem. Way more people want to be vtubers than there are enough people to rig them, so prices are way higher than they should be

>> No.1919099

Anyone have any idea how much a good design + Iron Vertex rigging (say like T3/T4) would cost? Just want to know what the 'high end' cost would be. Was looking through their examples and see an artist in there that has a style that may work for my design idea, sadly commissions are closed. And of course the artist mainly does male hentai, because that's the only real option when you deal with something even slightly muscular.

>> No.1919152

>>1919099
well, speculation is that Iron Vertex rigging is like $2.5k - $3k. so that on top of whatever character designer you pick costs.

>> No.1919220

>>1919152
Oh wow, thats more than I thought, though I didn't exactly have a frame of reference. So I guess I should toss $750-$1000 on top of that for design to be safe for a 'top end' full cost.

>> No.1919226

>>1919099
High high end, like Hololive quality, you are looking at 4K or so. 1K on the art and 3K on the rigging.

>> No.1919265
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tfw offer free model + rigging but no one wanted it

>> No.1919301

>>1919265
Was it an already existing model+rigging, or somehow free commission of some sort?

>> No.1919336

>>1919301
Free commission if your idea was interesting, but I never received a definite reply so I just gave up.

>> No.1919335

>>1919099
4-5k for high-end package depending on how many animations and expressions you ask for

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>>1919226
>>1919152
>3k
what the hell? i remember it was like around $1200 area 1-2 years ago when Vertex still open recruitment

>> No.1919432

>>1919336
Ah. I figure for something like that you'd have to give work examples or something. Some people have pretty specific ideas on art style & design they want, and not all artists are great at those types.

>>1919335
I remember seeing the 5k number tossed around before but haven't heard it mentioned in /auds/ before so I didnt know if pricing had changed. $5000 USD may be a bit outside what I could (sanely) pay for something like that anyway.

>>1919375
Demand has skyrocketed in the past two years. They also have a bunch of different tiers that I assume greatly affect the price.

>> No.1919446

>>1919375
vtubers are a hot commodity and highly skilled works is even more valuable now with rich suburban weebs and college students with too much loan monies willing to drop cash on it.

>> No.1919449

>>1919375
Nowadays vertex comes with a merrick fuckton of bells and whistles whether you want it to or not, so they inflate the price.
>Dude we are giving you like 15 props and 10 expressions! It's totally worth all of your stimmy checks!
Not to say their rigging isn't A1, because it is, but man I wish they would cool their jets. The market is totally fucked right now because the demand for good riggers is so high

>> No.1919585

>>1919375
The ones selling the shovels get rich

>> No.1919601

>>1919449
That's why omochi got booked until 2022

>> No.1919685

Thinking of commissioning a png avatar for a reasonable price, any artist recommendations?

>> No.1919842

>>1919685
Asanagi

>> No.1919895

>>1919842
Anon...
>>1919685
Define reasonable

>> No.1919972

I'm really really nervous I'm not going to like how my rigger rigs my model.
Some stuff in her portfolio is perfect but some stuff isn't anything like what I'm going for.

>> No.1920010

>>1919895
probably nothing over $100 for a full body png but ik commissions can get high depending on the artist

>> No.1920059

>>1909413
can't think of any reason why they wouldn't look at every audition. why weed out a potential member just because they submitted later? it's still in the time limit anyway

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>>1919432
Oh, pretty sure I posted a sample, but here is something I just drew real quick.

>> No.1920093

>>1919842
>>1919842
asanagi does commissions but it cost around $760

>> No.1920117

>>1920059
Japan is big on showing up early/on-time to everything. Plus if you're submitting last minute then it's likely you didn't budget your time properly and procrastinated instead of sending it in earlier.

>> No.1920122

>>1919972
ask for progress pics or a full range motion demo?

>>1920059
because that's 5 minutes for an audition, and according to Subaru, there were 1,200 applicants per slot of her gen. that's 6,000 applicants. if they just had 5 minutes and cover watched it all, that'd be 500 hours worth of JUST watching audition tapes.

that's why they had you fill out the rest of the form regarding streaming experience, content creation, etc. so they can just filter out those with less experience off the get go and focus on ones they know are more likely to be better fits.

>> No.1920136

>>1920093
It would be pretty much instant fame though, if you wanted that crowd.

>> No.1920142

>>1920117
oh no
i submitted mine 4 days ago. is that too late?

>> No.1920162

>>1920117
Submitted mine one day after it opened. Get owned procrastination virgins

>> No.1920400

>>1920142
Obviously.

>> No.1920454

>>1920400
well i guess if i get a view i'll let you guys know

>> No.1920464

>>1909413
There would be no point in accepting additional applicants if they weren't going to consider them. They would simply stop taking applications if they weren't going to screen them.

>> No.1921092

>>1920010
>probably nothing over $100 for a full body
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JQTAzG8boDwilADR8oJ3gtnN1Ma_tlFkl2mkHbahpcw/edit

>> No.1921344

>>1916135
>>1916355
Thank you! I'm glad if I helped anyone feel a little better.

>> No.1921400

>>1921092
thanks anon

>> No.1921415

>>1919265
>>1919336
>>1920089
Why do you want to do this for free? Have you rigged before?

>> No.1921517

>>1919265
>>1920089
Are you the same anon who posted the model he rigged himself and was asking requests in a tempmail?

>> No.1923132

saw some other people mention open riggers right now and i figure i could point towards this person who has two open rigging commissions
https://twitter.com/rice_deity/status/1367972095297269761
he's also made some weird experimental models too which might be up some peoples alleys because i'm not sure how common it is for riggers to take up weird requests
https://ricevtubers.tumblr.com/

>> No.1923324

i have a character design in mind and right now it's a mishmash of all sorts of stock photos and a picrew head pasted on top a mannequin body. is that good enough for artists? i'm looking to just start off with a character design, not live2d or anything.

>> No.1923347

>>1923132
Good ToS but it feels pretty pricey for the expressions and animations

>> No.1926214

>>1909413
They made a deadline for a reason. Otherwise it’d be flat-out lying. “Hey guys! You have this deadline up to this particular day but we’ll only look at those who apply the first two weeks! Good luck!”
They clearly stated that those who made it (1st step) will be contacted within a month from the end of the deadline.

>> No.1926308

>>1921517
Yup! No one responded to the early WIP clearly, so I figured it wasn't worth it to track people down.

>>1921415
Rigging is actually pretty fun without the pressure of doing it for money. And I like drawing/designing caracters.

>> No.1926399

>>1926214
further proof imo is that they said they'd contact within 2 weeks for vsinger (smaller pool) and a month for en 2 (way bigger pool)

sure everyone has 30s to impress the team but they'll at least open every app

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PRISM Project requirements. this is like a fucking full time job. don't Holos only require three 2 hour streams per week?

>> No.1926794

>>1926399
The details on how many people they have set up for this is unknown. By that I mean Cover personnel or sub-contractors to deal with the first part of the process.
Now it’s a waiting game for applicants and a very busy time for the ones dealing with the applications and audition videos.

>> No.1926841

>>1926721
theyre looking for neets or unemployed dropouts

>> No.1926905

>>1926841
would neets and unemployed dropouts have skills and talents that translate over to vtubing? i still think someone like Mori's roommate would be the most desirable applicant for vtubing agencies.
-highly skilled
-highly motivated
-demonstrable portfolio of past work
-easily translates to vtubing because it doesn't require a real camera (ex. gunpla or analog painting)

>> No.1927053

>>1926308
Hey anon if you're still interested in any commissions i have one for you. been working on a character based on my namesake, Atlas what i have in mind so far is simple so idk if it would interest you

>> No.1927955

>>1926905
>would neets and unemployed dropouts have skills and talents that translate over to vtubing?
unironically yes

>> No.1928239

>>1927955
They’re much easier to manipulate and mold into their ideal streamer.

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>>1928239
please do not transform my post into a grooming conspiracy

>> No.1928596

>>1926721
Just stream at night
You can stream at night, right?

>> No.1928658

>>1928596
i live with my parents and have been since the pandemic started

>> No.1928728

>>1928596
Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. Just would need one more day.

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Still no view on my video

>> No.1928895

>>1928754
Go play some vidya anon, do your reps, it is better

>> No.1928912

>>1926721
Would you guys consider vtubing a full time or part time job ? Taking account of work outside of streaming like making thumbnails, setting up streams and developing your social media.

>> No.1928929

>>1928895
I'm mostly worried because I'm the anon that submitted an hour late like an idiot. But you're right, I'll go play some vidya

>> No.1929037

>>1928912
>Full time
Only at 6 figures and that's only as a temporary job because no one knows how long it will last
>Part time
99% of the cases

>> No.1929090

>>1928929
You can't turn back time so might as well not stress over it, just be early next time of that's the case

>> No.1929447

>>1928319
I never made such claim so lay down the crappy firearm.

>> No.1929501

>>1928658
So does Pekora and she still streams.

>> No.1929546

>>1929501
Pekora has a supportive family that loves her and supports her endeavors. i... don't...

>> No.1929594

>>1929546
Well, fuck them into obedience then!

>> No.1929672

>>1929501

As does Subaru and Ange. Based Japanese culture.

>> No.1929865

>>1929447
understandable, you're safe for now then, and don't you fucking dare to call it crappy again

>> No.1930283

>>1929546
>>1928658
I'm sorry that your life circumstances is a barrier to how you'd like to live your life, Anon. That must be extremely frustrating.

>> No.1930908

>>1927053
I don't mind doing just a PNGtuber! That shouldn't take very long.

>> No.1930936

>>1930908
is there a way to contact you easily?

>> No.1931119
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>>1930936
Shilling directly is against the rules I think, but here's an image to reverse image search for Twitter. Should work.

>> No.1931261

>>1931119
its not against the rules, some people just don't like having their accounts linked here, go for it

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>>1931261
Is it not this rule?

>> No.1931405

>>1931355
You're not shilling if someone's asking for your contact info.

>> No.1931487

>>1931119
reverse image search isnt working anon and i understand if you dont want to link your stuff here
heres a email i made if you feel like sending links or whatnot
anonvtaud@protonmail.com

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>>1931487
Sent!

>> No.1931717

>>1931119
that's a cute watame

>> No.1932376

>>1931691
sent you a dm

>> No.1932560

17 twitter followers before even revealing myself as a vtuber

That's not bad, right? Its been about a month probably and I still have a good month and a good few weeks before debut

>> No.1932600

>>1932560
>number chasing
>debut
ngmi, listen to Mori and just start making content right now, anon

>> No.1932753

>>1932600
I just want to have somebody in chat when I first start. It's not number chasing for the sake of "oh man I want to be famous".
And by debut I just meant my first stream. I'm not doing any of the played out self introduction stuff

>listen to Mori and just start making content right now, anon
I'm just waiting on my rig, brother. As soon as I have it I'm "debuting"

>> No.1932817

>>1932753
>I'm just waiting on my rig, brother.
png it, anon. stop letting yourself come up with execuses. it's a MONTH, imagine the reps. if you pick up any followers on the way, surprise them with the Live2d once it hits and make it an event on social media.

>> No.1932919

Would be good to also include the auditions for WACTORxBilibili, You can go to the channel of any wactor girl they explained what the requirements are.
You can stream on any language and both on Youtube and Bilibili, You only need to know little japanese enought to talk to the management

>> No.1933780

>>1915915
live2D discords are almost always posting artists looking for commissions. found my guy that way, made an amazing model. 100% 2d but looks 3d, always captures attention. just wish he hadnt become so rude at the end of the transaction

>> No.1933960

>>1920162
was it good tho?

>> No.1934389

>>1932919
>Bilibili
i think the general consensus was that it wasn't worth selling your soul to be controlled by the bilibili mob after seeing what happened to HololiveCN

>> No.1935199

Anyone have a guide for Paypal opsec when using Streamlabs for donations? Paypal business tells me I need to use the name of a registered business, but I don't have one.

>> No.1935393

>>1933780
I actually tried to join the main Live2D discord when I started, but it kicked me out for not passing that 'alt' test thing since I was using a new discord account. I should probably try again though, but I haven't really joined any other discords other than the one I created for myself (mainly so I have a sandbox to test settings).

>> No.1935421

>>1935393
i joined the live2d discord on my main and just lurk. most of the artists there post their twitters for commission work, so i just DM them through my vtuber's twitter instead, they never learn my Discord name.

>> No.1935433

>>1935199
just make a paypal business account. you can have your pen name as the business name, and that'll show instead of your real name.

plus the streamlabs donation doesn't show your paypal name anyway

>> No.1935626

I want them to have auditions for HoloES so I can join Hololive just to get graduated because I'll talk shit about venezuelans and mexicans
Is my dream achievable? UwU

>> No.1935745

>>1935421
You see, I never thought that option would work figuring if they were posting in the discord they expect responses from the discord. I'll have to try that then.

>> No.1936120

>>1935745
yeah, sometimes opsec comes in multiple forms. if you can just end up like another one of the faceless masses of people who hopped into the discord due to Hololive and just lurk, they'll never find you.

>> No.1937386

I don't need to worry about crazy stuff like opening alternate bank accounts if I'm only using Youtube, right?

>> No.1937784

>>1937386
nope

>> No.1938036

>>1937784
Would they have to worry about it if they were on Twitch?

>> No.1938599

>>1938036
nope

>> No.1939175

I should have a much higher chance of getting into PRISMProject than Hololive, right?

>> No.1939215

>>1939175
go for it, anon!

>> No.1939736

Skeb appears to have a universal rule that says the art is only for personal use. How do people use this site for character designs? Won't I get, like, my nuts slapped or something if I ever get monetized?

>> No.1939805

>>1939736
just put it in your commissions that you want commercial use and offer 2.5x the recommended price (which is the average for commercial use that other anons have found) and you should be good.

>> No.1940276

>>1939175
If you're a girl

>> No.1940563

>>1919265
If you're still here. Do you mind posting some of your rigging files so I can study them? I'm interested in maybe trying my hand at it.

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>>1907985
Back with a generic non tripfag namefaggotry. This is for two fold, one to generate shitposting when I ask basic questions, and two, to prevent myself from relying on this thread too much for bullshit. I am looking into this strongly, and need someone to do distinctive styles. Several of the artists I know I want for my style simply do not do this sort of thing, so I am wondering where you guys go for comissions! is there a place for japanese artists? are there any english artists that are decent enough?

>> No.1940619

>>1940608
skeb

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>>1940619
I hate you but I guess I have already bent the knee to twitter anyway.

>> No.1940649

>>1931261
it actually is against the rules, however, caring about the mods rules is the surest sign you aren't from around here. I hope more people get brave enough to skirt this shit as hard as possible.

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>>1926721
Can we get a text dump of every hiring agency? I'd love to apply to every single one of them. I would feel like I wouldnt make it in but I think it would be great practice trying to get a (you) from one of these groups.

>> No.1940672

>>1932560
All I do is retweet pictures of naked anime girls on my phone and I have 5000 followers. I should be a vtuber

>> No.1940683

>>1919226
hololive is really 4k? that's not even that bad for an art asset of their quality. I wouldn't like to go that high end for me though. I am looking for differentiating my work, not so much getting the smoothest pixels.

>> No.1940775

>>1919336
>>1919265
>>1926308
Haha, I definately have an interesting idea, but unfortunately I wouldn't be willing to commission it for free. Doing it for no money may seem like a steal, but what happens if I explode and you aren't compensated? The legal and social ramifications are also not so great. Even if you never told anyone, someone who lurked this thread might be able to figure out who we both are and similarly drive up contraversy. I think it would be a cool solution for a hobbiest. If someone has a really unique idea, they'd also want to NDA it.

>> No.1941046

For those that already commissioned separate artist and rigger, who does the cutting of the models? Initial artist or rigger or there's another person that specialize on cutting?

My initial artist charge more than double price to separate my fullbody model into live2d parts along with it's accessories. She said it's because skirt, ribbon, long scarfs, hair, and mantle needs to be redrawn.

>> No.1941088

>>1941046
>Initial artist
Only if they give you a "live 2d ready" model
>Rigger
Not all riggers do cutting
>there's another person that specialize on cutting
Yes, they're called cutters, some riggers also do cutting but there are people that only cut the images for you.
>needs to be redrawn
Very likely since everything needs to be in separate layers, not sure if you are paying too much though

>> No.1941108

>>1941046
the initial artist should be the one who cuts the model. although, they shouldn't be charging you extra unless you asked for it to be made as a live2d model after it was already finished?
the reason its better for the initial artist to do it is so that the artstyle can stay consistent for the areas that have to be drawn under layers. some riggers will do this but they will generally charge extra + can look a little different to the original artwork

>> No.1941226

>>1941088
>>1941108
Thanks for the info anons, i was planning to see how my character idea will look before going further to save some money in case i don't like it.
But it turned out better than i expected so i asked her to make it into live2D model.
Looks like i'll stick with her for better result

>> No.1942011

>>1938036
Nobody can find your real name providing you use a business paypal account for donations etc.
You have to give your real details to twitch but nobody aside from twitch will actually see it.

>> No.1942402

>>1941108
>they shouldn't be charging you extra
Wait what? I was upcharged by a significant amount

>> No.1942537

>>1942402
what i meant was that in op's post it sounded like the artist asked for more after the work was already finished, it should cost more but be an upfront cost and not added on at the end

>> No.1942618

>>1942537
Ah okay. Phew.
For a second it sounded like I got swindled

>> No.1942752

>>1942618
Depending on how much you paid, you could say that you did!

>> No.1944384

>>1932560
>That's not bad, right?
Well no. I mean, everyone has to start somewhere. I have about 20 and I just got Twitter a few weeks ago. Still haven't debuted properly yet cause my model's been a clusterfrick of technical difficulties, but I still managed to get some content out.

>I just want to have somebody in chat when I first start.
My advice is gonna be Mori's advice then - do something. Doesn't have to be streaming, doesn't have to be videos even, but it has to be "something."

Cause think of it this way: right now, Twitter is your "chat." The day you joined Twitter was your "debut stream." How many people showed up on that first day? Probably none. But you put yourself out there, and now there's people following you that like what you're about.

How do you get those people to show up for your first actual stream? The same way you got them to show up on Twitter: socializing, networking, being a fun and friendly person, and showing up in their and other people's chats.

And sure, there's always the possibility that only one or two people show up. But once you have one video out, that gets clipped and shared and other people hear about you, and they might make it to your next stream, or the next, or the one after that.

TL;DR - In the wise words of Shia LeBouf, just do it.

>> No.1945307

last minutefag here
got a few views on my unlisted hololive yt video

they really watched it

>> No.1946423

>>1941226
For future information you can definately see it in action without redrawing.

>> No.1946474

>>1945307
do normal plebs like us get the ability to know how much of the video was actually watched?

>> No.1946502

>>1945307
You worked hard to make that video and you should be proud of yourself. Lots of people never follow through with creating anything. Good work.

>> No.1946561

>>1946474
Check the audience retention in your youtube analytics. That might work

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>>1945307
>submitted two weeks ago and still no views on mine

>> No.1946760

>>1946561
more interested to know how much time hololive spent on each vid for that anon and I didn't apply

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>>1946735
Don't lose hope anon, maybe they are going through the last ones first now

>> No.1946885

I submitted early and still no views. Either they are looking at recently submitted first (Top of the pile to bottom) or mine will never be looked at. Probably the latter, honestly. Oh well

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Do you guys have any background artist recs that DONT do this generic bubbly minimalist vtuber schlock?
It really doesn't match my character at all but it's all I can seem to find on Twitter

>> No.1947198

>>1940608
>are there any english artists that are decent enough?
Yes

Find artists on Artstation and Skeb

>> No.1947444

>>1947015
What kind of background are you looking for?

>> No.1947445

>>1946735
>Canned at the email selection
Anon...

>> No.1947474

>>1947444
Something more detailed and less cartoony

>> No.1947534

>>1946474
>>1946502
>>1946735

What are application videos even supposed to look like?

Do you just introduce yourself in person or make a creative video of your content or something else?

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>>1947015
I'll recommend this guy
https://twitter.com/megasongart
check his twitter images, he did the backgrounds for a couple streamers who get posted in /wvt/ like Kongou and Arypie.

>> No.1947801

>>1947534
by the books in the entertainment industry is suicide. the video is a persuasive argument. Treat the hiring agent like fans you are trying to win over to your side with a specific approach

>> No.1947940

>>1947562
This is excellent. Thank you

>> No.1948097

>>1946735
Also submitted weeks ago and don't have a single view. Wonder what would immediately filter someone out before even watching the audition. Would suck if that's the case, since I worked on it everyday after work for nearly a month. We won't know for sure until April 26th

>> No.1948164

>>1948097
>Wonder what would immediately filter someone out before even watching the audition
A penis

>> No.1948179

>>1939175
Prism Project guy is quite picky - pretty much every girl speaks Japanese/English, cares very strongly about acting as a character over other streaming skills, and asks for you to come up with a lot of 'deep' backstory for your character plus some kind of 'twist' - which is hard to be not cliche

And yet all the debuted girls seem very cliche except for maybe Luto

I think he wants idol like anime girls rather than entertainers like Nijisanji. Think how the Hololive members acted when they first debuted.

>> No.1948203

>>1946735
>>1946885
>>1948097
Either they're going randomly or they're going from most recent to oldest. Because going oldest to most recent would mean that they've already watched EVERYTHING between the first submission and late-anon's submission.

You are just looking for excuses to hate yourself. It isn't cute.

>> No.1948210

>>1948164
I know, I don't have one, that's why I'm curious.

>> No.1948322

>>1948203
>You are just looking for excuses to hate yourself. It isn't cute.
No, that's not true at all. I'm looking for someone to tell me that there will actually be a holostars EN and that I didn't misinterpret the meaning behind the submission being open to both genders.

>> No.1948436

>>1948203
It's not hate, but curbing my expectations now that it's submitted so I won't crash from a potential rejection. Hyped myself up while making it so it would be high energy and confident, and lowering it afterwards so I can move on more easily if it doesn't work out.

>> No.1948722

>>1948436
If that was truly your goal, you wouldn't be refreshing your viewer count. Direct your focus on content creation. Wringing your hands and finding half baked excuses to give up is going to give you worse whiplash. Because if you decide it's hopeless when you didn't get a view mere hours after deadline, that means your resignation will be proved wrong if you get viewed at all. Which will spark another round of desperate hope and searching for a new way to convince yourself that you're ngmi.

That's exhausting.

>> No.1949127

>>1948722
Armchair harder lol

>> No.1949136

>>1948722
Armchair psychiatrist.

>> No.1949987

>>1948203

There's no way to tell but if they didn't look at any of the earlier videos, no way to know how true it is but we have 3 examples thus far, and looked at a very recent one, best assumption is they didn't start looking until after deadline and will go from newest to oldest.

No way to know. I don't hate myself, no matter what happens I'll keep creating content as I have been.

>> No.1950122

>wants to join hololive (presumably to stream for a living)
>can literally do that right now
>doesn't
>gets all nervous about putting in an audition
your heads in the right place, anon?

>> No.1950217

>>1946735
While youre waiting, submit an audition to >>1916024

>> No.1950426

>Skeb artist took my commission 2 weeks ago
>still nothing
>they're now working for below min wage because of how long it's taking
might just move on with another artist

>> No.1951350

How much should you tip an artist?

>> No.1951410
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>Want to be a cool sounding vtuber
>Almost 35
>Still have the voice of an 18 year old barista that serves soi lattes at Starbucks
Fuck these genetics man...

>> No.1951527

>>1932753
Tweet about it and use Reddit to nnounce your debut

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>>1951410
I just learned the basics of Live2d and coincidentally made a fitting avatar for you

>> No.1951697

>>1951410
Vocaroo and I'll tell you what kind of character you would match.

There is a model for every type of voice

>> No.1951711

>>1951608
kek

>> No.1951721

>>1951527
I plan to. That's why I'm trying to build a small community rn.

Where should I post it on Twitter?

>> No.1952071

adding myself to the statistics, submitted 1 week ago, still waiting for a view ):

>> No.1952323

>>1951721
>Where should I post it on Twitter?
Reddit*****

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>vtubers_are_us in chat
It's time, he's going to clip and make her incline like that moth girl

>> No.1952512

>>1951410
Dude, girls love café baristas.

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some redditor made an app that lows you visualize the size of vtubers. don't sleep on Nijisanji if auditions open back up for them again, and plenty of indies are doing very well for themselves.

>> No.1953775

>>1946760
one spent 1:50 minutes out of 5:23
other spent 0.01 in a specific part
must be due to my niche

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>>1907985
Is it possible to be a *relatively* successful vtuber without streaming? I don't want to live stream at least not yet because I don't have a good setup for it but I do want to start producing content using my avatar. Will it kill the momentum or could it possibly help for when I do a live debut?

>> No.1955844

>>1949127
>>1949136
Sorry

>> No.1955909

>>1955759
you wouldn't be a vtuber then, just another youtube commentary video maker or rantsona.

>> No.1955917

>>1948179
Hm, I see
I feel like my content gives off less of a Niji-like feeling to be clear and more of an old Holo-like feeling, so I think I should probably be okay then? I can only speak in basic Japanese though so idk

>> No.1955987

>>1955909
Uh, Kizuna Ai primarily focused on pre-recorded content for a long time from what I remember. Vtuber doesn't explicitly mean 'streams only'.

>> No.1955988

>>1955909
You don't have to livestream to be a vtuber. A lot of streaming vtubers also make stand alone videos too.

>> No.1956009

>>1955759
What kind of content do you want to make?

>> No.1956026

>>1955987
>>1955988
the whole fucking point is that you can interact in real time with a virtual streamer, if you're not doing that, then you're not a vtuber. might as well just be machinima shit at that point.

>> No.1956040

>>1953634
Neat

>> No.1956062

>>1955759
Yeah man, but then you are dealing with the youtube algorithm more than anything, which can be a good thing or a bad thing depending on if you are savvy

>> No.1956068

>>1951350
Only tip if they threw in something extra for *free*

>> No.1956152

>>1956026
>the whole fucking point is that you can interact in real time with a virtual streamer
Sure, that may be a benefit of the streaming medium, but that is not necessary to the idea of what a vtuber is.

>> No.1956244

>>1956026
"virtual youtuber" pretty sure this just means a youtuber who uses an avatar. Vstreamer would be more accurate to what you're saying.

>> No.1956246

>Submit audition for Prism Project
>Less than an hour later audition video has 3 views
Am I gonna make it Anons?

>> No.1956302

What is something you think most female indie EN vtubers fall short on?

>> No.1956308

>>1956026
>the whole fucking point is that you can interact in real time with a virtual streamer,
No you fucking mongoloid, the point of a "vtuber" is that you are a...

Virtual
Youtuber

Though any streaming/video platform really can fit under that. It doesn't mean "vstreamer", "vcaster", "vcamgirl", "vsportsannouncer", or "vfisherman". Streaming or pre-recorded video doesn't matter, its just content creation that matters. I mean, fuck, pretty sure Ai created the fucking term and she was mostly pre-recorded video. People need to stop coming up with their own super specific idea of what vtuber means. It's really a pretty vague term.

>> No.1956363

>>1956302
the drive to actually grow a brand. almost all of them are just okay being small, but i'd like to see one aggressively growing their presence.

>> No.1956952

>>1956246

I got two views pretty soon after submission, both watched the entire video, could be a good sign hard to say

>> No.1957010

>>1956363
Artemis does that, this board still shits on her anyway

>> No.1957048

>>1957010
for other reasons I'm sure you know

>> No.1957049

>>1957010
Artemis has shit content, that's why. all that shilling only to end up with a crappy stream and a waste of an hour+ of your life watching someone be mediocre at video games and not even provide interesting commentary

>> No.1957086
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1957086

The Tundra Tracker kickstarter is starting in less than 24 hours. It is both 25% smaller and 25% lighter than the new Vive Tracker 3.0. It's battery life is about the same or greatre than the Vive Tracker 3.0. It's price is the same or less than than the Vive Tracker 2.0. The Tundra Tracker also supports connecting all of your trackers via a single dongle as opposed to require a dongle per tracker with the Vive trackers. For early backers on kickstarter you also get a carrying case, straps to attach them to your body, and usb cables which makes it an even better deal. The downside of course is having to wait since first units are expected to ship mid June.
https://twitter.com/Tundra_Labs

I am kind of tempted to get the 5 trackers option so that I can have full body plus some extra trackers to play around with.

>> No.1957099

>>1955759
This mindset >>1956026 is exactly why I say yes to your question.

Streaming/gaming/etc. might be where most of the viewers are right now, but the fact that the majority of people think "vtuber = streamer" means you get to be one of the only vtubers grabbing all of the fans of something else.

It worked for Kizuna Ai and it's still working for Miku and the Gorillaz, so. Just my two cents.

>> No.1957322

>>1957099
>kizuna ai
>miku
>gorillaz
anon... you should take a moment to ask yourself whether they're successful because of their virtual avatars or if their success could possibly be attributed to something else...

>> No.1957472

In the USA, what constitutes as true legal transfer of commercial rights? Is an agreement over email and proof of transaction enough to truly have commercial rights and enough to win in court should it ever come down to blows? If an actual contract is needed, how does one go about that digitally?

>> No.1957533

Ok I know it's normal to hate your voice but I really hate my voice on a re-listen. How does it sound to everyone else?
https://vocaroo.com/1jlnVN8lOHo5

>> No.1957606

>>1957533
Ngl Anon, it sounds totally fine

>> No.1957701

>>1957472
probably some contract drafted up and reviewed by a lawyer that specifies all that legal shit and is signed by everyone. it'll be expensive but you're paying for that security in knowing that there won't be future legal issues.

>> No.1957705

>>1957533
My only complaint is that horrible static in the background. Voice is totally fine.

>> No.1957745

Welp since we're posting Vocaroos, femanon who is anxious about her voice here
Give it a listen and lemme know if it sounds fine
https://voca.ro/1nzVRtQnZ3Zg

>> No.1957852

>>1957533
You shouldn't go here for honest opinions, all you will get is flattery from people scared of accidentally admitting to their own limitations by proxy. A v-tuber's voice is really important, more so than for a regular streamer and yours sounds like shit. Don't turn yourself into a lolcow because the hugbox gave you false confidence.

>> No.1957898

>>1957533
>>1957745
it's all fine. dude anon needs a better mic because it sounds like a webcam mic though.

>> No.1957945

>>1957745
YWNBAW

>> No.1958026

>>1957533
Faggy, you sound insecure, which makes sense since you're posting this here.

>>1957745
Troon

>> No.1958063

I've just gotten 1,000USD to spend on whatever, due to whatever government department distributes grants being ran by either commies or idiots. What's a good PC build for around that price that I could try vtubing on? It could be prebuilt or parts, but I'd prefer prebuilt due to GPU's being more expensive by themselves and the fact I don't want to fuck up the parts trying to put them together

>> No.1958074

>>1957533
Now do a Scottish accent.

>> No.1958086

>>1958063
you're not gonna find one for just 1k thanks to the silicon shortage fucking up gpu prices

>> No.1958118

>>1957322
>ask yourself whether they're successful because of their virtual avatars
Avatars don't make you successful in general.
>>1957533
What >>1957705 said. You might be able to mitigate the issue in software by using something to try and filter out the background noise like RTX voice.
>>1957745
I don't find it bad or annoying, but the voice would filter me.

>> No.1958129

>>1957745
Scratchy, though I'm not sure if that's you or your mic. If you gave it some practice and got more confidence in it, it'd be pretty good

>> No.1958200

>>1958086
I've heard prebuilts aren't as affected due to contractual obligations or some shit with the prices. GPU's just by themselves are more expensive, though

>> No.1958350

>>1958118
>I don't find it bad or annoying, but the voice would filter me.
Understandable, I was using some EQ settings I hadn't really tested out before, so I'm going to post one with like standard EQ voice settings (plus like a super high roll thing because for some reason the mic doesn't pick up my laugh). Here:
https://voca.ro/1jmpLNpn0306
https://voca.ro/1jmpLNpn0306

>> No.1958380

>>1958350
Ignore the repeated Vocaroo thing; I pasted it twice

>> No.1958421

Stuff and things
https://voca.ro/18CEp8Q30fVm

>> No.1958582

>>1958350
Is it the hrt that makes your voice sound so fucked up, or are you actually trying to use a shitty voicefilter or something? Either way, sounds awful.

>> No.1958662

>>1958582
What Florida does to a mf

>> No.1958764

>>1957533
You sound fine, but you need a better mic.

>>1957745
Australian?
>>1958662
>Florida
Well that was unexpected.

>> No.1958794

>>1956302
Being original in general

>> No.1958824

>>1958764
>Australian?
Yes
Also, as I said before, a femanon

>> No.1958845

>>1957533
Get a new mic, but otherwise you have a very smooth boyish voice. It's easy to listen to, so that wouldn't be a problem.

I could see a wide variety of character designs fitting it too, which is more important than you would think

>> No.1958857

>>1958824
The fact that you keep saying it doesn't make it any more believable, v-trooner

>> No.1958945

>>1958824
I like it. Haven't heard any Australian vtubers before.

>> No.1959031

>>1958945
I do have somewhat of a complex about it (see several posts in this thread about why) but I know that it's like... most of these anons are looking for anything to confirm what they think (also because they have some sort of brainworm where literally anyone who sounds deeper than an anime girl is not actually really a girl to them), so I'm pretty sure it's not as bad as I think.

>> No.1959197

https://vocaroo.com/15ejuDJMSNo2
I need to find a quiet part of my house and actually buy a mic

>> No.1959379

>>1958118
>Avatars alone don't make you successful in general.
Fixed

>> No.1959466

>>1959379
There are plenty of youtubers who are successful without avatars (not vtubers though).

>> No.1959556

>>1959031
>see several posts in this thread about why
As great as the vtuber community can be, this is a vtuber community on 4chan, so...

>> No.1959596

>>1959031
>What do you guys think?
>W-well... you guys just have a brainworm or something!

>> No.1959605

is it tourist season already?

>> No.1959630

>>1958118
>>1958026
>>1957898
>>1957852
>>1957705
>>1957606
>>1958764
Thanks everyone. Generally getting that confidence and projecting are a problem, but maybe not as much as one as I thought. Will absolutely buy a new mic and get a better streaming space, that was already the plan.
>>1957745
Nothing to be anxious about. Maybe need to project a little more.
>>1958074
Can't do accents, sadly.
>>1958350
Nice ara-ara voice.
>>1958421
Sounds nice, smooth and relaxed.

>> No.1959638

>>1959556
Yeah 4chan does not know what real people sound like

>> No.1959788

>>1957745
It honestly does sound like a mtf voice, especially with the shorter clips. I'm sorry, just being honest anon. It's a certain way of speaking that Artemis and others have too but it sounds like you can sustain it better. Deep voices can definitely be feminine, but something about yours is filtering me. If you're not mtf, do you happen to be a bit older?

>> No.1959865

>>1959788
I am not modulating my voice in any way whatsoever, anon

>> No.1959869

Your voice deepens if you don't use it often, so I think that might be the problem, instead of rampant trannies

>> No.1959877

>>1959638
it's a nice self burn when they admit they've never been comfortable around people to know what they sound like normally. i know tons of people who put on a fake voice in public, at work, etc. but all sound different when they're relaxed at home. either that, or they're all pedophiles who's idea of a female voice comes from uwu voices in anime.

>> No.1959989

>>1959869
Where do you think we are?

>> No.1960020

>>1959989
A board full of hikkis who look for trannies in every corner

>> No.1960055

In my experience, the people who hate the gays most end up just being closeted gays themselves. So if you're going around every thread spamming the acronym and calling others the t word...

>> No.1960068
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>>1959869
>Rampant trannies are less likely than female posters

>> No.1960079

>>1953634
>so small you can even read their names
that's cruel

>> No.1960113

>>1960079
actual link is here if you wanna check it out yourself, it's interactive. https://flamboyant-lichterman-54ff0d.netlify.app/

>> No.1960132

>>1960055
This is true, people who hate racists and homophobes are actually secretly members of the KKK and the Westboro Baptist Church

>> No.1960167

>>1960113
thanks

>> No.1960215

>>1960132
This made my evening.

>> No.1960265

>>1960055
>the t word
tranny? do you mean tranny? because a lot of them aren't gay, just sad lonely straight men.

>> No.1960339

>>1960055
What is this 'i'm rubber you're glue!' shit

>> No.1960345

>>1960055
In my experience, the people who go on 4chan and complain about being called >the t word and uses ellipsis like a 14 year old facebook ERPer ends up being a tranny themselves

>> No.1960416

>new ips popping up
>offended at ">the t word"
thanks for all the (You)s, anon, didn't realize how triggered you'd get to the point of using second devices, lol.

>> No.1960524

>>1960416
You just don't pass man, no need to get so riled up about it.

>> No.1960596

>>1957745
>https://voca.ro/1nzVRtQnZ3Zg
Actually went ahead and listened to this to see what all the fuss is about. Firstly, it sounds like your audio has been edited badly (either because of some voice filter or incorrect use of noise reduction) so it already sounds like a not accurate representation of your voice. That being said, if I were to assign you a "character archetype" solely based on this sample, I would give you "middle aged woman", maybe a villain or busy working lady type. If you're actually younger than 40 then I would definitely wonder if you were trans, though a "trans character" is a character archetype just like how "young boy" or "Californian teen girl" is so you could make it work for you.

>> No.1960848

>>1960132
Uhh bros we have a containment breach, shut it down.

>> No.1961210

>>1959638
I'm not saying 4chan doesn't know what real people sound like, but I am saying that we're not much for helping people to sound better either.

I've looked through the english vtuber community and seen more disabled genderfluid otherkin than anyone should ever have to see. But you know how we get less of that? By telling people what they're doing wrong and how to improve.

Calling someone a tranny doesn't change anything. If anything, they fuck off to tumblr and reddit and end up becoming trannies because those are the only people that gave them constructive criticism.

And if you're that scared of being attracted to someone with a penis, simping for people who hide behind pictures of anime girls on the internet is the complete opposite of what you should be doing.

>> No.1961247

>>1961210
>they fuck off to tumblr and reddit
You are trying to pass this off as a bad thing?

>> No.1961268

>>1961210
>disabled genderfluid otherkin
where the fuck are you looking for vtubers because i've never seen these on youtube or twitch.

>> No.1961307

A while ago I said I would type up my advice on running a stream, mainly a twitch stream and from the point of view of a long running moderator. Finally getting around to starting to type it up now. And since I spent most of my time as a mod drinking, I'm good and semi-drunk while I type this for authenticity. Anyone got any questions that pertain to running/moderating a twitch stream that I can incorporate into the document? I already know a bunch of shit I'll have in there regardless but it would be interesting to know what people want to know.

>> No.1961333

>>1961307
>from the point of view of a long running moderator.
So basically, from a nobody

>> No.1961360

>>1961247
>they fuck off to tumblr and reddit and still end up becoming vtubers anyways
There. Better?

>>1961268
There are some very, very exceptional individuals on twitter.

>> No.1961395

>>1961360
>on twitter.
those are vtweeters and unless they actually have a channel with videos, they are irrelevant to the discussion of vtubers

>> No.1961402

>>1961333
This isn't a "how to stream", its a "how to run a stream", as in managing the community itself. Unless the streamer and/or the mods are incompetent, the mods should be putting in a lot of work.

>> No.1961428

>>1961360
>end up becoming vtubers anyways
>on twitter.
V-tweeters aren't v-tubers. And I'd rather they run their 0-5 viewer streams in obscurity on twitch than post on 4chan. No matter how you try to spin this, you are just outing yourself as a tranny enabling little homo. You should fuck off back to twitter.

>> No.1961461

>>1961307
When should someone consider getting a moderator for their chat? Is it realistic to self-moderate even when you reach thousands of subscribers/hundreds of live viewers?

>> No.1961510

>>1961402
>managing the community itself
The people on this board should be more focused on actually streaming even once with an audience over 10, rather than getting caught up in the planning and "preparation" which is just glorified procrastination. If you are sitting around planning your stream rather than just going live, you are never going to make it. Chances are, you are never going to make it even if you stream, but 1% chance is still better than 0%.

>> No.1961581

>>1961461
You gotta watch out because both Twitch and Youtube have community guidelines that say you need to have a handle on your chat to a reasonable degree. If you're big enough to get some attention and people are regularly spamming NIGGER and other shit in your chat, you can get in trouble.

>> No.1961600

>>1961461
> Is it realistic to self-moderate even when you reach thousands of subscribers/hundreds of live viewers?
I'll toss that in the document as well since it technically can be a longer answer, but in terms of Twitch, not properly moderating your chat/channel is actually *against TOS*, so if people are posting stuff against TOS and you aren't deleting/banning them, *you* actually can get banned.

>>1961510
Oh obviously, if you have no community to manage then advice on managing a community is rather pointless. However, people should take every opportunity to learn, no matter what.

>> No.1961832

>>1961210
>I'm not saying 4chan doesn't know what real people sound like
I mean, they don't know what real people sound like.

>> No.1962058

>>1961832
>they
you're here too, friend.

>> No.1963855

>>1962058
Let me rephrase
The people who do nothing except are hikineets on 4chan do not know what real voices sound like

>> No.1963949

>>1963855
There is nothing that outs you as a newfag more than trying to make people look bad for using the site more than you. Other than the tranny defending of course

>> No.1964036

>>1963855
this. in the context of female voices, if the only female voice you think is "female", and you're not familiar with woman talking in a lower register. it just means that no woman has ever felt safe enough around you to let down their public performance voice. so yeah, hikineets, incels, neckbeards, etc., you're just outing yourselves when you say shit like that.

>> No.1964505

>>1964036
It's obvious that a bunch of anons are the type that will call any girl with a deeper voice a roastie, etc, but that doesn't change the fact that there are instinctual understanding of the nuances in the human voice that can't be overcome by most trans people. Women will always see their voices become deeper into their 40s/50s (among other changes) due to menopause and that is why you can immediately tell if someone is an older woman on the phone just by voice quality. Me and my female family members have very deep voices for women (we all speak around E3) and yet we have never, ever gotten mistaken for a guy over the phone. Ever. And this is because females have structurally different voiceboxes, face shapes, etc, that change how we use our voice and how our voices resonate and even if we all speak with lower voices, the resonance of our voices are still clearly feminine. And even with our lower voices, we can still comfortably sing up to a C6 without going into a "falsetto" that men would require.

>> No.1964525

>>1964505
>doesn't change the fact that there are instinctual understanding of the nuances in the human voice
this isn't real and if you actually believe this you need help.

>> No.1964685

>>1964525
Of course it is, go to any "how to make a female voice" video made for transwomen and the first thing they go over is how men can try to change the placement of their larynx to imitate a female-sounding resonance because that's the key to sounding female more than doing a base "pitch up" of your voice.

>> No.1964782

>>1964685
there has NEVER been a peer reviewed study that shows humans can do what you're thinking of. a femanon posting with an accent tricked you. you don't have that kind of a "superpower", anon. you need to talk to real people more.

>> No.1964847

>>1959197
sounds like a good voice for a hilbilly vtuber

>> No.1964967

>>1964782
Are you seriously trying to claim that there isn't a study out there checking whether or not people can correctly guess whether a speaker is male or female? That's just about as redundant as making a study to see if nonblind people can guess which of the two people in front of them is ethnically Korean and which one is ethnically Nigerian.

>> No.1965702

Skeb is being psycho and won't let me submit my request because "it is against the terms to communicate outside of the company". Can you not include a Google Docs link for reference? I've seen other people do it.

>> No.1965716

>>1965702
google DOCS is not allowed. reference images on google DRIVE is allowed. when i put in my request, i just put it into imgur and linked an imgur album of references since i didn't want to give out my google drive info.

>> No.1965810

>>1965716
Ah, I see. Thanks.

>> No.1966031

For the femanons out there who posted their voices you all sound fucking fine and like a real woman. Voice acting is a skill like everything else and I don’t want everyone to do that stupid fucking uwu voice anyways.

>> No.1966057

>>1966031
on that positive note
here's new, updated with PRISM Project's audition info.

>>1966043
>>1966043
>>1966043

>> No.1967189

New thread please

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