/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

Wamy 10k.

slow day, huh?

current rankings

>>19075902
look at her go
12k

>>19075902
Suntory better make ramy water after this.

/#/ is declining.

Wow, it's over so fast. The collab fee must be too expensive.

wait, that's it?

>>19073274
nah, anyone who read the first statement knows how he must've felt about this

>>19075971
hey man

>>19075902
see Ai? if you didn't get so entrenched in China you could have spend some time with your oshi Lamy and your old pall Sora

>kson's live karaoke losing to Kiara's rerun karaoke
Why did she lose so much of her audience? Do they not know?

>>19076025
no tune back in

>>19076068
CCVID, most of her watchers are holoEN watchers so she's culled same as they are

https://twitter.com/shiranuiflare/status/1497143643253067779
Kek Flare keeps feeding the narrative.

Watching Lain's 2.0 reveal and I'm still mad as fuck that instead of giving her a cute JC model and giving Lain's to a deep voiced oneesan they destroyed two potentially strong chuubas to smash them together into one failing one

>>19076104
>I'm really happy! I'm so glad I don't have to make you all feel lonely anymore...
What kind of statement is this!? Flare...

Come on, do not promote your merch in the middle of the Live. Let it build up first, dumbass company.

Q-KING-REFLECT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWiFw4QNyRw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxOjRtMv3Cg
Huh is she trying to sing for 2 hours straight until the premiere or will it account for SC reading? Because if it's the latter then there will be way less viewers to funnel into her original song.

>>19076104
Damn what the hell rushi did to her man?

>>19076104
lmao she actually hated her that's so funny

>>19076104
Christ did Rushia fucking killed her pet or what

My takeaway from this whole Rushia situation:

- Somehow, someway, 4chan and Reddit manage to be in the same boat. I hate to admit it, but # was one of the more levelheaded places to talk about this scandal.

- Twitter continues to become worse.

- Cover PR machine deserves a lot of praise for not derailing this scandal into anything bigger than it should.

- Hololive members are not as close as we might think on streams. Or else there would be a lot of crying, and not "oh well" sort of reaction.

>>19076068
she's in SC reading

>>19076173
daily views

>>19074350
It's the kind of game you play, not watch

>>19076104
BASED COFFEE

>>19076068
Anon, singing isn’t her strong suit, Mickey Mouse on drugs and everything

>>19076215
Screenshot was taken while she was still singing

>>19076175
Singing for 2 hours straight really isn't uncommon but she is a motormouth and always takes decent zatsu breaks between songs

>>19076104
What the fuck did Rushia do.
On a side note I keep seeing the $500k figure popping up in arguments on /here/ and Reddit to defend Cover’s actions. Pretty funny to me.

>>19076104

I completely forgot about suntory. she was hyped as one of the top tier singers in the whole scene

>>19076151
Did she do the holo style reveal?

Kiara might get the "watch absolute retard poser gamer get destroyed" buff for Elden Ring, like she did for deathloop

>>19076257
>$500k figure
What is this?

>>19076104
Fuutan...

>>19076223
Interesting. Q having a good MV is keeping its growth up vs the other two, even if it's not as fast as King was. That's impressive.

>>19076208
anon at the end of the day, they are still a company selling a product, and that just happens to be

>>19076292
the 500k refund thing. The overlap between this place and reddit is appearently very much

>>19075287
Is that sentiment shared amongst the JOP community too? We all know it's very popular in the English speaking fan.

>mysta leeching noctyx in the title
I almost admire the fucking shameless behavior
I cmt believe Shu, who looked like some LGBT nighmarw design, is the most based Luxiem

https://old.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/t11c1p/heres_this_weeks_girigiri_warukunai_watamelook_at/

Holy shit Watame with zero chill.
I can't imagine her of all people not being at least somewhat sad about this, but seeing her be completely unaffected is scaring me a bit.
What the fuck did you do Rushia?

>>19076292
The amount of cash that Rushia's merch moved in total, rounded to the nearest 100k.
Clearly some people have stolen our numbers.

>>19076208
anon at the end of the day, they are still a company selling a product, and that just happens to be one big happy family idolism. It might not neccesarily be all fake, but it's in their best interest to at least pretend to care and be close to each other because that's what their audience wants.

>>19076315
Oh, the merch refund. Yeah if they are willing to refund all those merch then it must be really bad and the firing is justified.

>>19076186
>>19076188
I mean, if even a fourth of the rrats of how Rushia's retardedness affected her is true, no wonder Furea's ecstatic that she's no longer have to deal with her bullshit.
Just imagine how betrayed she must have felt when, after all the times she told everyone in her gen to go to her when they have problems, Rushia instead chose to go a fucking dramatuber and spilt her spaghetti (and a lot of other things besides).

>>19076331
the sub is still locked btw, discussion and memes has more or less moved to the virtual youtubers sub.

>>19076231
Yeah on twitch even the big name flesh streamers were peaking at 20k

https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1497187181126844416
Speak of the devil.

What exactly is the source for Rushia saying that no one at the company was contactable after the yab, was it the Korekore stream?

>>19076257
>seeing the $500k
>>19076292
>What is this
>>19076315
>the 500k refund thing
This particular thread is the one with anons scrapping their site and checking merch sales numbers.
It came to a point some “genius” anon translated it to JP and took it to 5ch, and management closes the hole used to check the sales number.

It’s the 90-9-1 rule, with a small number of retards in this thread having an oversized impact in the community without even needing to push it hard or claim credit

>>19076104
>>19076331
DID SHE DOX + SPREADING RRATS ABOUT BAKATARE OR SOMETHING? HOLY SHIT RUSHIA

>>19076428
some anon pulled it out of his ass in this very thread

>>19076399
She been leaking stuff before this according to cover statement.

>>19076368
Oh ho ho it's a LOT more than merch refund. That $500k is the fucking floor of what Cover is willing to part with just to cut all ties with Rushia. They're going earth scorched route with this.

>>19076421
Huh, they are not cancelling production completely, they are just offering refunds if you want, and also changing the limited edition with hand signed cards with the printed version if you want.

>>19076421

>>19076208
rushia was the most isolated of the holos + accidentally(?) doxxed a lot of them. No reason for many of them to feel sad now. It was much worse when Coco was leaving

>>19076331
>Rushia was the source of all of Narukami's crap on Hololive, and she has also been feeding korekore stuff for years
This is my personal rrat. Imagine, Cover went digging through Rushia's official socials after she fucked up by going to Kore, and, because she's a stupid menhera, didn't separate her contact with these dramafags from her official accounts.
Imagine if you found out THAT info in a meeting? I think that would be grounds of 'yea she fucked up and has to go' vibe that everyone has been giving off. I can see why Marine, Pekora and Kanata, those close to Rushia were still a le to cry for her, but Flare, someone who hates deception, finding out that Rushia is a dirty snitch who colludes with dramatubers?
I could see her instantly doing a 180 in attitude to Rushia after finding out.
As for commercial stuff...imagine if she's been leaking stuff to Tamaki, someone who leads a 'rival company'. Whew.

Okay, rratspinning done.

>>19076523
>変更をご希望されないお客様につきましては、期日をもって弊社にて該当商品のキャンセル・返金のご対応をさせていただきます。
>キャンセル・返金をご希望のお客様につきましては特段のご連絡をいただく必要はございません。
Contact them if you still want the merch and want it changed to a printed autograph. If you want a refund, you don't need to do anything, they'll automatically cancel and refund.

>>19076428
From what I remember people were inferring that from roommate tweets.

>>19076559
Korekore hasn't really covered hololive stuff before this, has he? It's always been Narukami and we know how much Cover hates him.

>>19076595
that singular anon said that Rushia said that during her tweetcast, which didn't actually happen. It's bullshit

>>19076557
In en vtuber scene they doxxed themself lol. Jp is different i guess.

>>19076512
It must be pretty funny being Cover staff and seeing people defend you with leaked merch sales data.

>>19076104
>Fags not looking at what she posted 1 minute before this and putting 2 and 2 together
Excellent bait

>>19076588
only for the limited version, for the full merch pack it seems like they'll go through with it

>>19076550
So they're still going to produce the Rushia Birthday merch, contrary to the rrats that's been spreading on this board since yesterday, except the signed version will be replaced with a printed duplicate since Rushia's not there anymore to sign it?

>>19076550
> JP fandeads all going "ha? cancel? As if we would!"
she threw away so much

>>19076559
Tamaki that leech! I forgot she close to her. Hmmmmm....

>>19076550
this is a tragedy

>>19076595
Never happened. Rushia not being able to contact anyone is 100% a rrat some dramaniggers cooked up in their heads.

>>19076641
Oh yeah she definitely didn't say that in the tweetcast, I listened to that. Never saw the tweets though so I wasn't sure.

>>19076701
well yeah, they are all going to be collectors items now.

>>19076331
r/hololive still closed?

>>19076559
kinda what i suspected as well but it seems like narukami had multiple sources inside cover. i don't think korekore covered a lot of hololive drama before but he's also a producer for another idol so qualifies as business rival.

>>19076662
Of course, of course.
Out of context tweets are the BEST bait, just like out of context numbers.

>>19076657
In the west, they just steal the idea they don't really care about vtubing.

>>19076208
if she truly did leak her entire discord log i can imagine some holos feeling betrayed. also from the gen 3 stream it sounds as if some of them did try and help rushia but it just wasn't enough
https://youtu.be/ppOu2U4SByQ?t=220

>>19076400
This is like, the first non-Rushia related post after the locking. And it's Watame going "here's my new video!" like completely normal.
Sheep isn't typically like this man, she's an emotional person, and even if it was just a coworker that left, she's likely to take a couple of days off to get that out of her mind.
It's barely been 24 hours...

>>19076732
yep, only mods can post threads

>>19076701
Also since she's terminated now doubt she's getting any money from those sales. She really fucked up.

>>19076691
Well, I think that that's probably the best for Rushia, the fans, and Cover. Offer refunds for those who felt wronged, let those who want the final merch to get it, and make sure Rushia is able to at least cover the costs on the merch since it likely came out of her pocket.

I swear, Japanese vtuber companies protect IRL identities of their talents so much, while a talent for a Western "agency" like Vshojo happily doxxed themselves.

>>19076559
>Tamaki
I can believe this.

>Chloe long solo stream can't even get 1k SC anymore
Edengumi....

>>19076707
To be fair, from a fan perspective coached to always support the girl it's easier to believe the company didn't bother to respond to the DMs about a drama bomb about to explode rather than to believe that Rushia really was that fucking retarded.

>>19076662
The real shit will be tracking how long it takes flare to change her twitter banner.

>>19076801
No there's no way she's not getting the money from those merch sales, that'd open up a whole new can of legal worms considering she probably put the down payment on them and what not

>>19076783
To get ignored by one of the most emotional members of Hololive, I pity whatever Rushia had done.

>>19076823
Different culture. Being anonymous is big in Japanese internet culture

>>19076823
If you genuinely think this is about doxxing you've been eating too many rrats and should stop

>>19076737
>narukami had multiple sources inside cover
No he didn't. He had maybe one or two total amount of interaction with Rushia (or her roommate) and spun it into a whole fucking thesis because he's a dramatuber. Just look at what he was saying, he almost always started or ended his sentences, "I don't know if this is true or not." to give himself some plausible deniability because a lot of what he said was nothing but his own concoction.

>>19076782
Marine probably tried her best by giving a slew of advice since she was a wageslave before joining Holo and understand how this shit works. Can't save someone who doesn't want to be saved though.

Toko maxed at at 9.5k so far this collab that's pretty nice

>>19076737
I wouldn’t really trust narukami, the guy is known for making shit up all the time. I wouldn’t be surprised Rushia did leak to him though, she’s a bit of retard.

>>19076208
>Hololive members are not as close as we might think on streams
Purely speculation, anon. Real friends don't do what NijiEN girls do like revealing their discord chats to the world to show how close they are with each other.

oh hey i got in my recommended the livestream of the shit the holos been shilling for 2 weeks

>>19076368
>Potential SC
>Holofes merch cancellation
>Membership money
>Ad revenue
>Sponsor cancellation
>Event guest cancellation
Cover losing $10m is believable.

>>19076889
Well it's a collab with Ange.

>>19076887
>"I don't know if this is true or not." to give himself some plausible deniability because a lot of what he said was nothing but his own concoction.
so.. a schizo?

>>19076366
Streamers, especially JP ones, can't really pull a 100% on their regular habits out of nowhere. Peko is the only one who has a somewhat consistent Gobi. Nene threw hers away with the chink outfit, and Luna has a ton of moments where she doesn't nanora (collabs especially).
For the most part, I think Rushia WAS on friendly terms with everybody... it's just that once this was found out, it just became untenable to keep her on, which explains all the 180s.

>>19076946
90% of his content is just him taking rrats on 5ch and dressing it up to be less schizo and more palatable to the general public

>>19076926
As an aside, before launch their weekly promo streams were getting like 3k-5k viewers, it first broke the 10k mark last week and cleared 30k with this stream. Hard to say how much of that is attributable to the hololive campaign of course.

>>19076946
The guy is a complete joke in Japan.

>>19076922
T. Never had a real (girl) friend before

>>19076951
My lovely hag, 10k-15k

>>19076951
Jesus Christ. Rushia definitely did some sort of heinous crime for Lui to tweet shit like this

>>19076876
I heard Watame choose to break off from her bf before joining Hololive.
Now we have someone who basically push "Please fire me!" button by leaking stuff to dramanigger. just because her oshi claimed there is nothing between them.
I'm not surprised if Watame can't empathize with her.

>>19076104
https://twitter.com/shiranuiflare/status/1497143341405782016

She's talking about the Famimart collab dude...

>>19076933
they are losing at least $200m

>>19076823
It's strangely enough one of the reasons I like japanese vtubing. I'm fucking old, the thought of putting any personal information on the internet that could be linked to my real identity is heresy.

>>19077043
That's chump change for them.

>>19076208
- ignoring/delaying official response for drama may result in catastrophic results. Had cover made her do a apology video for the drama and then suspend her for a few weeks, then she would have a chance to explain her side in a controlled manner and would have less reason to shoot herself on the foot. Most of the hate would be directed at Cover (like Towa, Aqua, chinkout, and Miko Marine case) which then everyone would forget once she came back to an absolute payday.

the worst thing is that this happened before the yearly gains reports

>>19077043
Damn. My math is showing me 80k live viewers here.

>>19076858
No, there are merchs funded entirely by the talents (like Lamy's sake), but these merchs aren't one of them. Talents getting a cut of their sale is covered in the contract, HOWEVER if you break the contract (like what Rushia did) then there's no more reason for Cover to give any cuts for any future sale. It'd be a different thing if the character Rushia is owned by Rushia's roommate, but it's not, so when she broke the contract, well... that's all, folks.

>>19077043
haven't you heard? they're losing close to 1B dude

>>19076823
They all get doxxed before the debut stream is even over but that plausible deniability is the crucial factor

>>19077043
Have you guys heard about the half a billion dollars Cover is losing? How will they survive without the 750M?

>>19077080
No. All Rushia had to do was to shut her mouth and play dead. That's it.

kek nice bait

>>19077130
Clearly that doesn't work out and something that cover can't control

>>19077048
It's sad that western internet culture, in general, doesn't care enough about anonymity. I blame Facebook for that

>>19076888
It is so refreshing seeing how Marine operates in terms of the company compared to many of her peers. Thankfully slowly more and more members are getting used to the things you have to do to navigate corporate.

>>19077161
Then the talent has to go. Simple as.

>>19076888
> Marine was closest to Rushia and tried to help her early on
> She was ignored and Rushia went to her "old circle" because people want the "familiar" when your life is falling apart (in their head)
> Marine kept trying until they had the meeting, after which she took a short break for a few days
> Super lovey dovey with Ichimi after returning
> Flare heard about how Marine was treated and is pissed at Rushia on her behalf, because she thought of them all as family
My 50 cent rrat.

>>19077080
Does it really matter when ultimately she is fired because she breach NDA?

>>19077043
if you account for taxes, thats actually 800M

Now that the Rushia thing is slowly subsiding, it will be interesting to see if this scandal will cause them any long term effect.

HoloFes and Holo Expo will still happen so I guess we will have to wait a few more months.

If Cover decides to launch a new gen, maybe it would not be so negative after all.

>>19076888
Marine worked at an ACTUAL black company, she knows just how much better Cover is compared to the crap they put her through in her old job

>>19077220
>If Cover decides to launch a new gen, maybe it would not be so negative after all.
Well we know that ID3 and maybe EN3 are coming.

>>19077080
? She shot her foot immediately the following day after the collab by contacting the dramafag. You want Cover to produce an official response at a weekend 2 AM local time?

>>19077161
>Cover can't control
Exactly, they can't control what she does and there's absolutely zero guarantee she wouldn't have still gone to Korekore in desperation to "clear her name" if she did an apology video which would've only fanned up the flames even worse at that point in time.

>>19077111
First off, no, other than official merch like Umisea and Holofes, every piece of merch is paid for at least in part by the talent. Secondly if they go ahead with selling her merch without giving her a cut, that opens themselves up to all kinds of legal shenanigans, chief amongst which being "Cover drummed up the NDA charge to terminate her contract so they could have all the proceeds from the merch for herself". It's just headaches all the way down

>>19077043
according to my math, its a natural recline

>>19076737
>narukami had multiple sources inside cover.
He doesn't, literally no one is believing his rrat anymore (look at matsuri blog staff) and every single one of his rrat has been from 5ch.

>>19077220
The drama had a proper closure with proper justification. As we can observe with Pekora's numbers, time heals everything. Hololive is still going strong.

>>19077254
Cover had two options:
1) Act quickly and rush out a response/suspension while also letting Rushia go on stream to explain herself in hopes of shutting down the drama, like Aloe
2) Tell Rushia to shut up and see which way the wind blows before deciding on a plan of action

>>19077130
it's what happened when you don't follow witch mio's advice

>>19077080
> Rushia gives her "corporate apology" omitting a lot of details that Cover wants to keep secret
> shills Korekore so that her fans can get the "full picture"
how would this improve anything?

>>19077334
Defying the witch means termination.

>>19077043
>$200m
Quick anon, what's 2+2?

>>19077263
>every piece of merch is paid for at least in part by the talent
NTA, but really? Last time it was talked about in this thread was after Fat Cat's live, and all I remember was that for birthday and anniv merchs, talents had more creative control on what form their merchs would take.

>>19077320
Pako shizo...
just use Towa as an example

>>19077327
There's no way they're gonna suspend Rushia for that. She didn't do anything wrong at all. That would only reflect badly for Hololive.
Had Rushia kept her mouth shut, it wouldn't have ended the way it did.

>>19077417
yes, apart from official stuff like Holofes, all of the birthday/anniversary merch etc etc is paid for by the talents. That's why the stars merch tend to be on the cheaper side and why, say, Mio hasn't put out a hoodie despite people asking for it

>>19077417
Yes the merch is partially funded by the talent, in return they have more creative control and better cut.

>>19076801
Only possible if Rushia is working for one of suspicious black company with support from corrupt government or criminal groups.

Shien Goods

>>19077425
I'm not the schizo you moron.
You've gotta admit it, Pekora's numbers did go down. Perception is more important than the truth anyway. Pekora just ignored those nonsense and she recovered well.

>>19077448
they learnt their lesson after the Aloe and Coco/haachama yabs

uhhhh, botan and koyo's graphs are a little concerning

>>19077526
You have any previous sheets for the other stars (Oga bday, Roberu 2nd anni, etc) for comparison?

>>19077571
Watame...

>>19077562
Definitely. Hololive is also bigger and more experienced now. They can afford to wait it out and respond accordingly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqN1WiPRFY4
Kiev-chan is about to get graduated and is still only at 24k, pretty embarrassing desu

>>19077571
>ITS BAAAAAAACK

>top stream right now is two nerds talking about FFXIV

>>19077185
>>19077257
She got caught in the worst possible timing, possibly causing Cover millions of USD in tangible costs and fees and the more intangible hype and goodwill for their biggest event of the year, if she breaks NDA for cases not related to the drama then there a strategically favorable occasions to terminate her contract. Assuming the more likely scenario that the violation occurs for cases related to this, then any effort to minimize risk of all that happening is of no question. Cover used to have some semblance of Risk Management when they operate like an outdated JP husk of a company.

nomu's chat is really fast for a 10k stream

I really wish Rushia had confined in her gen mates, or at least some of the older members if she doesn't trust corporate to handle her stuff.

>>19077654

Lean day for numbers so far, only Choco and Miko have got 20k+ and current bronze is the Luxiem game show.

>>19077656
Sorry, I understand those words but not when you put them in that order, can you elaborate?

>>19077663
It's pretty much a Lamy's stream, complete with her own translator.

>>19077728
Numbers are a little fucked right now because of actual russian bots overruning livesteams.
Either that or Hololive is reclining

>>19077698
I think Rushia just fucking panicked. Rumors and evidences of her going out with that nijinigger is already there. That discord message sealed the deal.

>>19077360
Who is scarier?
Witch Mio or Watamage?

>>19077765
Youtube has been having weird drops all day. System is going wack again.

>>19077787
watamage is mainly offensive against outside forces
witch mio is mostly defensive/clairvoyance

>>19077656
>minimize risk
They would not have minimized any risk in this particular case by suspending her and making her do an apology video. The only thing that would serve would have been to prolong the drama even further, fan the flames even more, and do absolutely fucking nothing to reduce the chances of Rushia running off to Korekore because this isn't the first time she's gone to him for help anyway and she legit didn't realize it was wrong for her to leak shit to him.

>>19077734
>there are better occasion to fire her if she violated NDA for cases unrelated to the drama
>controlled apology/explicit suspension may minimize risk of NDA violation that are related to the drama

>>19077787
Witch Mio, Watamage made Cover bounce back after graduations. This is a termination before a big event, who knows what would happen

>>19077847
True, AI should have 100k CCV for her Fall Guys tournament.

>>19077542
>spam DQ and ARK
>get shit number
>tarded anons think its because of something they made up in their mind
>play fotm, instant good numbers
>oh the drama must have passed
just dont be a retard you retard

>>19077698
She did something really stupid but that's only because her support circle failed her

>>19077734
It's the goodwill fandead schizo from last thread again, might be best if you just ignore it.

This boring ass girl wouldn't amount to anything if her roommate wasn't beautiful. She's leeching of Ange and she couldn't even reach 10k. Should've invited Suichan too.

>>19077917
anon I am the goodwill guy, and I'm not following what he's talking about

something wack happened here

Botan 10k get ay!

>>19077937
Looks like the verification servers are having a goddamn fit.

>>19077937
It's happening again

>>19077930
>actual best singer in the vtuber business
>wouldn't amount to anything

>>19077883
Refer to Aqua, Towa, Miko/Marine, Coco/Haachama, Aloe's cases
Most of the flames/shitpost/hate were directed to Cover and/or management. Sure there probably would be threads and threads of COVER BLACK COMPANY in all sort of forums for weeks or months, but that doesn't cost them millions of USD

>>19077930
okay, what schizo is this, and why does he have a hatebone for Toko?

>>19077937
Fucking YouTube engineers are useless as shit.

>>19077937
dont worry about it, chaver, there are no problems with the ccv

>>19077896
The best indicator to see whether a talent is declining or not is to check their numbers during SC reading. Pekora did decline on those times but she recovered lately. Okay? Moron.

>>19078028
>Most of the flames/shitpost/hate were directed to Cover and/or management
Yeah sure, I bet Aloe decided to graduate over Cover being flamed. Do you only read EOP Twitter posts and reddit reactions to figure out what is going on with Japanese drama?

>>19078028
>and let the menhera rushia think shes justified in her leaks and nda breaks

>>19077448
>>19077619
The point of suspension is to give less focus and pressure to the talent and direct the hate and shitposting to management.

>>19078028
It won't cost them millions of USD that way, it will cost them hundreds of millions of USD since no actual sane company would want to have any relationship with a company that keeps their employee who violated NDA.

>>19077913
If she had trusted her "support circle", she would have not leaked all of that info to Kore or Narukami.
Even 3rd gen tried to reach out, and I'm sure management would have helped if she ASKED.

But she didn't.

>>19078039
Considering he had to bring up how beautiful she is, probably mad she isn't sucking his dick.

>>19078167
Makes the masses think they got punished so it reduces the heat.

>>19078028
lel do you only listen to EOPs?

uh oh

5 minutes until Kore Kore stream about Rushia.
If it is nothing new then shit will just add fuel to the fire.

Are we going to get Choco gold today?

>>19078167
That would hold true if the scandal was legit. It wasn't. Those that were bashing Rushia weren't Holo fans at all. The drama actually died down but then that nijinigger revived it again which led to Rushia go suicide baiting.

>>19076208
There was crying, but most people aren't going to really talk about it considering the nature of the situation.

>>19078116
Aloe did because antis were doxxing and harassing her family. a minimized risk that unfortunately still happened

>>19078151
>>19078176
She still needs to be fired, but not a few weeks before Covers biggest event

>CCVID is back

>>19078276
CCVID is going to hit the Homos because of the debut relay.

>>19078307
Oh great, this is going to fucking fire up the whole fanbase again.
This time, EOPs will be in for the ride since he has become known outside of Japan now.

>>19078245
Or it makes the antis think they have more ammo and redouble their efforts to shit on the chuuba. It also only works if the talents can shut up and get off the internet during their suspension period so they don't get triggered into doing something dumb. Guess what Rushia refused and still refuses to do.

>>19077913
>her support circle failed her
She didn't even give her support a fucking chance in the first place. Hell, even going to fucking Matsuri and Haachama would have been infinitely better than going to japanese keemstar, but she chose to go to him first anyway.

>>19077937
>>19078276
damn i'm so tired of youtube shit

>>19078343
Botan hit 12k, I think this is variant 2, which causes 'severe waiting room lag, but recoverable within an hour ' instead of needing 24-48 fucking hours.

>>19078308
Yep, how many golds this month for Choco?

>>19078336
Yeah, funny how those antis didn't switch targets to doxxing and harassing management even when Aloe made an apology video and was suspended. Maybe, just maybe, suspension isn't a one-stop solution like you seem to believe and the context in which it can be successfully applied needs to be considered.

>>19078336
>She still needs to be fired, but only after shes made us a lot of money in our big event
sounds like the definition of a black company

botan's graph is all spiky like EN graphs and koyo's is doing the verifying in bunches shit, god damn it, it's gonna happen again

>>19078336
the thing id though if they did wait until after fes to fire her i doubt she would have been allowed to continue streaming so there would be about a month of silence followed by her termination

>>19078454
Rushia's grand karmic gift: balancing the scales of En and JP again because faggots couldn't help but keep shitposting with CCV.

>>19075902
Suntory X Wammy sake soon?

>>19078429
Aloe made the mistake of saying something negative about Nijisanji in the past and that’s grounds for execution to nijifags.

2 hours to hit page 11 now. The board is starting to heal and the retarded dramafag does a stream

jesas the drama nigger has like 50k

Jesus Christ, does this schizo actually believe that people were only coming to Holo Expo/Fest for fucking Rushia lol? She would hold up to 4k on her superchatting reading, much less than for example pekora or miko.
Cover is not canceling all rushia birthday merch sales, only those who ask for a refund; and they are not painting over any stuff on the expo or its merch that shows rushias face.

>Korekore hired an English translator
Absolute fucking madlad

So what is KoreKore saying now?

>>19078336
>>19078429
Aloe was harassed because she was talking about Chitose right? It's funny because Chitose's reincarnation recently just announced that she is being harassed for years and that forced Kamitsubaki to make a statement.

>>19078506
Last time I checked Luxiem wasn't JP

>>19078275
Seems like projection since in cases I listed, JP audience drama were largely subsided a few days after the apology/suspension. Of course there will always be shit stirrers on forums trying to get a response from their fans, but those are relatively harmless to the talent themselves

>>19078370
See above cases, trolls would get ammo to rile up the fanbase, not to harass the talent. See comment/dislike growth for Miko's case for example

>>19078336
So you're suggesting she walks free until the end of HoloFes? When there's no guarantee whatever she could do or say during that time frame? They clearly understood the risk of trying to do that and they decided it isn't worth it. Or are you suggesting them to throw her into some detention center and watch all her movements until after HoloFes? That's literally black company tier.

Wow, KoreKore is tearing apart his kaigai haters.

>>19078529
That's nothing compared to the original stream.

>>19078555
Chinese as well, that's dedication

>>19078719
Seems the dude is not going to take this lying down.

>>19078429
Aloe didn't exactly apologize for her Chitose comments, and you are seeing things if you claim I'm claiming suspension/apology as a one-stop solution, it's a method to minimize risk in certain and limited cases.

>>19078585
>JP audience drama were largely subsided a few days after the apology/suspension
And it largely subsided in Rushia's case without an apology/suspension so you are not making any valid points.

>>19078555
jesas

>>19078565
Ha. There are many flavors of shitposting in the thread, sometimes it's Luxiem vs NijiJP, Luxiem vs HoloEN, HoloEn vs HoloJP, Vshojo vs HoloEn, it really depends on the time of day and which schizo(s) is/are active.

Madlad is fucking promoting himself to EOPs now kek

lmao what is this self ad

Botan 15k incline.

Don't you guys have a sticky you can discuss this shit in?

Holy shit, the balls of this man kek. Okay, he wins.

>>19078781
That one anon is hellbent in blaming all the CCV shit on JP for whatever reason

>>19078756
You mean after her input on kore2's broadcast? The thing that shout be prevented in the first place

>>19078788
Wait I got this.
>Pandering to EOPs will only destroy KoreKore as his audience will get turned off by all the english spam and change in culture!

>>19078752
>certain and limited cases
Suspension works for clear-cut cases where the talents have made statements in the course of their professional work under Hololive that may be taken as controversial. It does not work for Rushia's situation and you attempting to push it as a viable strategy here is asinine.

>>19078219
>he
This is fujo board anon, if you see remarks about woman's looks here you can bet your ass woman is behind the post.

not bad numbers for Risu

>>19078868
Oh, so it's a fujo hamplanet jealous of how hot Toko is? I guess that could make sense.

>>19078937
holy buff

>>19078859
I'm advocating the use to lessen or redirect the focus, pressure, and hate from the talent to management. A tool to minimize the risk of their talent from shooting themselves on the foot. Something that cover aren't willing or able to control (as stated in their first response)

>>19078937
NijiID can never reach these numbers without NijiEN…

>>19078840
No, after mafumafu explained his side. Rushia didn't need to do anything.

>>19078938
I think it's actually the one sui-schizo we have here that's oddly fixated on Suisei. The one that kept saying "Micomet Animal cover is a failure!".
Or maybe not, it's pretty much impossible to keep track of them all given how many goddamn schizos we have here.

>>19078937
Honestly, I could've sworn NijiEN would be the one to normalize meme reviews

>>19079006
Anon... Coco was doing this long before NijiEN was even a thing.

>>19078336
>catch employee leaking information
>tell employee you're going to fire them, but only in a few weeks so you can make money off them
>

Jeezuz, it took Roboco 22 minutes to recover her waiting room....
But she's still growing, making me think that it is indeed a delayed (but recoverable) verification unlike before where you just wouldn't recover at all during the stream.
Gods it looks like ass though.

>>19077526
See? The homos are actually doing way better than people crying around for

>>19078388
I srjkk think she should've gone to haachama, hell if she supposedly lived by herself, just go and sleep at her place for a couple of days I'm sure she wouldn't mind that either.
God damn it anons... Things could've been different, things could've been so different if rushia didn't become fully retarded...

lol shishiron kicked nijien off the podium

>>19079006
You mean NijiEN copies those from Hololive too?

>>19079086
And even before Coco, meme reviews existed ala PewDiePie. It's not exactly a groundbreaking format, but man is it a fan-favorite.

>>19078968
>lessen or redirect the focus, pressure, and hate from the talent to management
Doesn't work because the focus, pressure and hate in this case were coming from external sources, which are primarily mafumafu's fans. They have zero reason to attack Cover instead of Rushia. All that accomplishes is to get hololive fans to hate management on top of mafumafu fans hating Rushia.

>>19078968
anon, rushia was getting hate from people who don't care if she apologizes or gets suspended. All her fans were dismayed for a few hours then were supportive or patiently waiting for her response. That actual fanbase would have been more upset if she'd gotten sanctioned. Even after all this a lot of them are still fandeads.

>>19079141
based lion, playing War simulator in an ongoing war, I kneel

>>19079110
Yeah, a 33 year old hag seeking help from a university student. Good idea.

>>19079098
Yes but unironically, just say the investigation and decision took a couple of weeks (which is fairly reasonable)

And now KoreKore is fueling the flame once again.

>>19079141
lalion! Hags win again.

>>19079255
unless he brings up hololive somehow, that Miichan's problem now

Come on Watame, 10k get on this open field and nailing the high notes of Kamipoi like a pro.
Damn though, tonight is skinny AF in primetime. Probably more meetings.

>>19079243
No, a sheltered individual who'd almost shit her pants when the thought of getting her face reflected off of something is seeking help from her senpai who's gone through the literal wingers and knows exactly how to deal with stuff like this.
Age doesn't really matter here

>>19079233
Sure that's a fair possibility at that point of time (though most of his fujofans has already subsided after mafu2 throws rushia under the bus).
But the point I was making is to minimize risk, if I was a shareholder and see that the business lost all that stuff without doing that bit of risk management, I would want someone to be fired.

Look at these numbers!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3yadVEV-f4
We did it holobros

>>19079299
Well, wouldn't be surprised she wound up offing herself due to this.

>>19079415
Nice, then most of the blame will go to him instead of Cover.

>>19079371
It's a Friday. It's always like this unless there's a big event

>>19079401
Meant for this as well
>>19079225

>>19079496
It's extra bad today because Korosan cancelled the stream frame she had up and Peko moved her vampire survivor to to tomorrow.

>>19079299
He is doing that right now, claims that Rushia told him she was being bullied by other talents in Hololive and that Cover wouldn't help her and was rejecting her.

this is the final yab

>>19079401
>Cover does what you suggest
>takes huge hit with fans over what would widely be perceived as an unwarranted suspension
>still has to fire Rushia anyway because she's a retarded leaker
The only valid argument you have is that they could pretend to drag out the investigation until after holofes, but they could have done that anyway without a suspension dog and pony show. They decided to fire her before holofes 3 for a reason.

>>19079602
better prepare the lawyer then

>Meiro now its Rushia
Jesas

>>19079602
So /#/ will be schizo-free for a day or two more?

>>19079602
black company

Oh boy, this might escalate again.

>>19079602
No doubt some of those falsehoods cover mentioned.

>>19079602
Going for the bridge burning route I see? How stupid can one woman be? Holy shit

Cute, even if blurred. Still can't believe she would choose a troon over anyone else.

>>19079404
Mii-chan is fucked. Dude really throw both of them under the bus. Welp it's better than ruined reputation and antagonize cover i guess

>>19079602
She’s leaking more shit after breaking an NDA? She’s gonna get sued by Cover.

>>19079602
I told you she literally said in her twitcast that her genmates were ignoring her when she found out she was getting fired, and that stream on pekora's channel jsyntwas forced and mandated by management for damage control

>>19079602
And he also said that there is no evidence of that.

>>19079602
no wonder they decided to dump her quickly and claim she was spreading falsehoods, they knew what she told korekore and that he was definitely going to talk about it soon, needed to try and pre-empt him

>>19079602
>>19079702
After this, i'm pretty sure Cover is actually going to sue Rushia, and she has basically no defence. She's absolutely fucked.

>>19079602
It's over. This will end in court

>>19079602
someone's gonna get sued over this, not even a joke

>>19079602
this menhera is extremely retarded

>>19079602
isn't that just confirming what was leaked to narukami? damn... mii-chan is really going to need that lawyer.

>>19079602
Holy shit, he really is throwing her under the bus just for the views, huh? And Rushia chose to go to this guy over literally anyone in Hololive? Girl is so retarded it's a fucking miracle there's a brain in that skull of hers.

>>19079760
So even hypothetically, what did Rushia want Cover to do? The smart play is take a break, shut the fuck up, come back and cry and make a vague apology, proceed to rake in millions of dollars. Just shut up for like 1 week you complete idiot. Now everyone being cold makes sense. She accused them of bullying? Jesus I mean that's a common play but it doesn't make a ton of sense given her position.

>>19079740
>>19079759
If true, she probably told him this before she got fired. Remember that she was terminated both for "falsehoods" and "leaking business correspondence".

>>19079602
Oh boy... this is the greatest betrayal one could pull. Marine... your tear was wasted on her. No wonder furea was pissed af!

>>19079718
Pretty sure he antagonised cover when he released the leaked messages and caused their top earner to get fired

>>19079798
>>19079602
im starting to think she doesnt consider living long enough to need that lawyer

This is the biggest facepalming moment in Hololive history. I want to stay neutral for Rushia but this is not good for her.

>>19079847
she didn't believe in the plan

>>19079847
She was bullied, cover is a black company

>>19079871
I don't think he actually released the leak messages on stream? IIRC he blurred it out and also said they shouldn't have been given to him + he has more stuff that he was given which he won't even show at all.

The cold reactions from other holos make perfect sense now. Holy shit what a retarded menhera.

Not that I particularly care about this, but is there a reason why everyone is taking a well known dramatuber at face value?

>>19079871
He did but the damage more on rushia's side. He gave them a reason to get rid of a ticking time bomb and a fucking traitor.
Also this >>19079935

>>19079746
>her genmates were ignoring her when she found out she was getting fired
Wrong she's talking about her seniors

>>19076104
Congrats, that's a good one
Here's your (You) lol

This is smart from Korekore since his objective from the start was to make mafumafu innocent.

>>19079917
The top superchat earner who recently had a full gen live and a very successful birthday merch run was being bullied? I mean anything's possible but man, that's a stretch.

>>19079966
Do cover bootlickers really?

>>19079967
she ignored haachama's offer of rice

Im not even a marinefag but this really pissed me off

>>19079798
>isn't that just confirming what was leaked to narukami?
yes

>>19079798
>isn't that just confirming what was leaked to narukami?
How?

>>19079943
Shhhh.

>>19079997

>>19079992
Black company, did you forget about Mel's molestation and Coco's firing? Hardly the first time cover did fucked up shit.

Why do these faggots always do this shit when I want to go to bed?

https://twitter.com/akaihaato/status/1497199454499524608?s=20&t=xVFOyt3D7LMRnVkL3n1Ggw
well, at least we know that the stepping in dogshit tweet wasn't about rushia kek

>>19080046

>>19079840
Korekore just said that she claimed she did that as well

>>19079943
No reason to take him at face value but if he's lying about what Rushia told him, she should probably sue him. And if Rushia was lying to him, then Cover might sue her.

>>19080015
she had a beef with someone at hololive and wanted to quit according to narukami

So now what? Cover will probably have to step in since Kore talked about them like that.

>>19080104
so at the end of the day, someone is going to get sued.

>>19080056
Now now seanigchama dont leave yet, things just get spicy

Rushia giving statemnt on korekore

>>19080118
See now this is believable. Woman can be unbelievably petty and she probably thought she could leave take her gachis with her.

>>19080088
Claim what?

>>19079746
>when she found out she was getting fired
This was highly likely after all of JP Holos already got briefed of how she shittalked them behind their back. No wonder they're all so fucking cold, after being backstabbed like that. It even gives a clearer perspective of how Pegors and Marin were acting last night. They weren't sad she was fired, they were sad that all their love and trust was for fucking nothing.

He must fuck his English and Chinese translator. What a Chad.

>>19080133
Unless no one is lying at all, in which case hololive takes a hit.

>>19080173
This is how you know she doesn't have a lawyer yet, because if she did they would be cutting power to her pc right about now. Stop digging you fucking moron.

Holy shit, live interpreters now? This dude is fully prepared for all the yab

>>19080192
Rushia sending paypigs private videos knowing Cover would never allow it.

>>19080192
Asking advice to her coworkers

She will 100% get sued.

Stop laughing at that bastard, ahahaha. Of course her fans would sell her merch now.

>>19080015
She leaked her fight with a coworker to Narukami, with whom she barely interacts with. She's a menhera that makes meiro look like a saint
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQjldsfnqCQ

>>19080293
What does it say?

>>19080293
こいつら全員不幸にしたい

"I want to make them all unhappy"

>>19080173
In case you're thinking it's real, it's not. 'Uruha Rushia' doesn't exist anymore, if it's real then he would've called it Mikeneko and even Mikeneko herself has no reason to keep playing the 'Uruha Rushia' persona anymore.

>>19080293
Jesus what the fuck Rushia

>>19080384
I-is this mikeneko?

>>19080228
NDA break doesn't even require you to lie, anon

>>19080379
AHAHAHA!
Ogey Rushia, glad to know there was a legitimate fucking menhera whore close to my Oshi. I hope you rot in hell with that troon.

Oh boy, this drama is getting spicy

>>19080477
I mean in the sense that if it's true there's bullying going on and management didn't resolve it then obviously hololive would take a hit. Though of course Korekore was extremely careful to cover his own ass by saying he did not get any evidence of said bullying, so...

rushia graduation has been great for the numbers, this is better than even coco because its going to be milked for weeks

This girl needs a mental health professional, not a fucking dramatuber and voices on the internet.

Yeah translator girl fuck off, we all know that already.

>please stop commenting on Korekore's channel it's my final last wish
Fucking kek

>Korekore apologizes to EOP
What the fuck am I watching

>>19080379
just an hero already, rushia

EN translator girl sounds cute, i wonder what kind of numbers she could get

EN translator-chan a cute, when's she becoming the next big billingual vtuber?

>>19080293
For what, hating her coworkers?

>>19080714
>>19080723
This fatfuck know what's up by hiring a cute voice girl

>>19080533
eh, its rushia, the menhera suicide baiter. Everything is over-exaggerated by her

>>19078781
>Luxiem vs nijijp
No such thing, /vt/ nijiniggers are just holo antis, they don't waste posts on infighting, they don't even care that Luxiem is mogging 95% of niji JP, just how they do against HoloEn

so she went against management orders, is accusing people of bullying without any proof and the whole secret dms thing is true?
is she fucking braindead?

>>19080873
Fubuki being pissed makes complete sense now.

you guys do remember the Rushia impersonator he brought on last stream, right?

>>19080873
Yes anon, she possesses the smoothest brain in Japan.

>FPS強い+先輩=あくあ じゃ?
Is that what rushia said her "bully" was? lol

>>19080781
Considering this lends a huge credecence that she was spreading false information to third parties, the answer is fucking yes, unless she has real, tangible proof that she was actually bullied.

>>19080533
Without evidence, it could be anything really. Remember that this is the girl who went menhera over little things it won't surprise me if she took a friendly banter too seriously.

Pekora gained 20k subs in 2 days.

having a bit of a sio deja vu here

Yashiro almost 10k playing Majora. Any comparable numbers?

Holy kek that girl won't get paid for her work at this point ww

>>19081051
Drama buff.

did it finish yet?

>>19081051
drama buff for 2M

>>19081066
Nah, I don't see Hololive becoming .EVIL unless Rushia can back up her bullying claims and not it being that she was a menhera that took banter as bullying.

>>19080969
I guess Cover had no guarantee Korekore wouldn't talk about this even if they delayed her firing and decided to go ahead and pull the trigger. Basically telling people in advance whatever they hear about Rushia from now on is fake instead of scrambling to damage control after the fact.

>>19080953
So good at fps and a senior bullied her?

>>19080873
Anon, this is a chuuba who played a Youtube video for her BG and wondered why her PC couldn't handle her streams.

>>19080923
im not watching any of it, just explain

>>19080953
people already guessed it when talking about the overlapping
remember that one time Aqua needed to make a short 5 minutes announcement and forced her to cancel the stream
could be about that and make her unhappy

>>19080953
>they don't even consider ma2li as good at fps
kek

>>19081051
Another Rushia stream soon?

>>19081234
upshot is a couple of streams ago he had "Rushia" show up and say lines like how much she likes gargling Mafumafu cock.

>>19081178
Uh...
That really narrows it down to Matsuri, Aqua and Fubuki in gens 0, 1 and 2 no? Unless she considers roboco/Choco as 'good'.

>>19080953
kek, imagine claiming that the literal retard aqua of all people was bullying you

>>19080953
Where did it even say that the senpai is good at FPS?

>>19081323
There is still Ayame

the bullying was haachama's rap and rice making tweet

>>19081323
Roboco?

If his aim was to make Rushia seem totally unhinged then it seems successful.

>>19081368
Haachama is secretly good at fps so its not impossible

it was probably mel
she's the real mastermind behind cover

>>19081368
kek is she blowing up her house in micra too?

>>19081424
she didn't need much help with that

>>19080873
HAHAHAHAHAH if this fucking goes to court, then loses and she has pay damages equal to the amount she’s earned as Rushia + serve jail time, she is without a doubt the dumbest woman I’ve seen and heard of in my entire life.

I bet that one nijifag who maintains an anti-holo note is cumming in his pants right now at all the essays he can write from this stream, kek

>>19081323
Out of 3 only Matsuri seems like possibility.

you could write a fanfiction of bullying and people would believe it

the cries of gen3 was not losing someone, but betrayal

>>19081323
Pekora is good at FPS too. Or well, she either used to be but lost her skills since the , or she is faking her current level on FPS. I do remember watching a video of her winning a small tournament and she was talking with the scat guy.
Hopefully that's not her though, I don't want to lose my oshi that way...

>>19081066
Nah rutan is 10x dumber

>>19081130
>back up her bullying claims
Considering FBK is one Discord call away and fucking Kson is living close by, of fucking course this claim has no weight.

This girl is like Sio on crack

>>19081487
Pekora is not her senpai

>>19081487(me)
Nevermind I totally went past through the senior part. I'm retarded.

>>19081436
no she just take it as hers

>>19081487
Come on dude. Pekora suck at fps. Also its a senpai. You don't call your genmate senpai.

>>19081487
Pekora can't even hit a slow moving Zombie in Resident Evil.

>>19081518
>Kson
she might actually drop that crazy bitch

>>19081473
>as we can see from korekore's stream, cover is a black company that abuses talent while nijisanji with the debut of Luxiem is a bright shining beacon of outreach to the great nation of China!

>>19081487
>Pekora is good at FPS too
Eh? She fucking suck.

>>19081486
Well yeah people will ignore that he literally said that there is no evidence of that but when EOP saw the word "bullying" all hell will break loose.

>>19081393
Sio was right about RBC. Also I can't imagine RBC bullying anyone even by mistake. I could imagine Aqua's social ineptitude being mistaken for something else though

>>19081323
I bet it's sora. There's always something shady about that child

My memories is bit hazy but didnt rushia got depressed after bloom because she didnt get to sing her orisong?

>>19081487
kys, at least use common sense

kek, yesterday I was about to make a joke about "Haachama Demolitions" being called to destroy Rushia property on Minecraft but I thought
>too soon
But today Haachama just commandeered Rushia's old house (in Minecraft) and now it's hers KEK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arXOITIG01A

>>19081638
Why are Nijiniggers like this? Sora's pure.

>>19080953
I bet she asked her to play apex with her and she got the same response as nene and thought it was bullying.

>>19081072
>More than Kanae's Elden Ring
>Rushia confirmed menhera
Shazam won

>>19081667
Haachama plays Valorant...

>>19081642
that's just being self-centered, and expecting preferential treatment. now that i say that, not getting special treatment is her definition of bullying?

>>19080953
I couldn't even find the source of this FPS強い claim, where the fuck did you fags even get it from? All said in the chatlog is that the supposed bully is a senpai.