/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>19067173
Skin debuff and killed her own momentum by not streaming.

>>19067173
because she’s a black wigger

>>19067246
Don't blame on her skin, that's racism, which shouldn't be allowed in 2022.
Blame her break.

>>19067173
She doesn't stream.

>>19067173
Model/design debuff, that's literally it. I like it a lot personally but it's for more cultured people and the masses are not cultured.

She needed a more conventional default outfit and style. Her new years kimono is very cute though

>>19067173
She doesn't stream, that's it

>>19067422
i don't mind her model, i just don't find her entertaining or funny.
she has the vibe of someone trying too hard to be strange and quirky

>>19067173
That extended hiatus when she literally just debuted didn't do her any favors

She barely streamed to start out with. It’s debatable whether or not the model or skin had an impact because the consensus on /vt/ early on was that she was the most promising of the bunch after debuts. Look in the archives

Too American. Brings back bad memories of ww2

>>19067173
ugly model (not due to skin but overall), does not stream.

>>19067173
her dog decided to drop dead and it all went downhill from there

>>19067173
Ignore people saying it's the model. Irys' model is even more off putting to the avarage animefag and she made the best of it. The Truth is they never should have hired someone with barely any streaming experience. She doesn't stream and sometimes acts pissy towards chat. She's not cut out for the job, if she was in one of the smaller corps she'd probably have single digit viewership. Not streaming for periods this long is fucking her engagement, especially since she did it near debut before she had an army of simps. She can't pull an Ayame.

>>19067173
She's covering for Anya, cover hired her as an artist but also lets her stream when she's between projects to be the easy low-view scapegoat. [/rrat]

>>19067246
this unironically, i don't mean brown skin bad because flare is fine, there is just something to her shade of brown that's offputting

>>19067623
they could just brighten it a few shades and itd be a lot better, not that shed stream anymore often.

>> untoasted wheat personality
>> somehow even worse when collabing

brown skin, light hair. she looks like a gyaru. or a cheap hooker

>>19067173
shes bald

>>19067173
because shes black and tall, two traits that will get you fucked unless you can pull it off. maybe she could do black, but being tall too killed her. if she was a loli, she would be gura tier.

>>19067173
She doesn't stream

>>19067551
That was literally just faggot aussies. Plenty of people thought she was a try hard with some kind of hick aussie accent that was hard to decipher.

she’s the poster child of a forgettable no-name indie vtuber. off-putting model, bland personality, unfunny, generally mediocre all around, and the slight accent as a cherry on top.

>>19067246
iyrs' model looked weird at first but i think it grew on alot of people. So it's probably her not streaming alot.

>>19067623
Contrast her fanart to her actual art.

Her model is heavily deformed (round face, weird eyes, weird hair, weird ears) and her skin isn't golden-brown like in pic related, but this oddly off-putting shade of rancid chocolate that doesn't look like it fits on a person.

I can actually see why she doesn't stream, hah. Imagine telling your artist 'I want to be a brown anime girl with blonde hair and massive tits', and what you get is Sana's model. That would take the wind out of anybody's sails.

The lack of streams and long breaks really hurt her. She still feels like she's brand new to streaming when she does stream and it really shows the lack of experience compared to her genmates. It's a real shame cause I really like her personality. I hope she comes back and goes hard into streaming again to try and make up for it. Something like 5-6 streams a week so she can recover

>>19067173
I actually find Sana's case absolutely hilarious.
For a bunch of Westerner virtue signaling fags, it's pretty funny that everyone here legitimately argue that Sana's color """is a debuff""". It really tells you everything you need to know about the western vtuber audience.

>>19067873
Yeah fanarts actually make her look bearable. Has any of the JP girls had a full rework of their model to change it like what Sana would need?

>>19067173
Funny that after 6 months they are still stuck at 400 000.
By 6 months bith Gura, Mori and Amelia already surpassed 1 million.

>>19067173
aussies don't make good anime girls

>>19067173
Hololive fans are just racist, Sana is charming and funny and entertaining and she streams as many hours as the rest. The only reason why her subs are low is because people are just racist against her.

>>19068223
Explain the Skaven, then

>>19067173
Too many (long) breaks and when she does stream it's either a collab or a 10 hour long autism marathon in Pokemon or something similar.

>>19068046
Nene

>>19068319
cunny

>>19068319
I fucking love that rat.

>>19067173
>HOLOLIVE
>ONLY 400K SUBS
Lol

>>19067246
brown skin is bad and wrong

>>19067173
>taking a month off when your parent's dog died
This was shortly after she debuted as well. Meanwhile Chloe only took a week off after her own grandmother died. Sana has no right to complain.

>>19067173
Have you ever see Sana streaming?

>>19067173
Her eyes look like old-school anime, but like a cheap Chinese copy of old-school anime. First thing I thought of was the Langrisser gacha

>>19067173
At debut I was onboard, she seemed fun, then she announced her first stream would be about horoscopes. I didn't spergpost or anything, just shrugged and figured her content probably wasn't for me. I wonder how many others did the same thing. Later I thought I'd give her another chance (after all, Kiara went from worst to almost first), but she hardly ever streams now.

>>19067173
gave her a chance from debut. what killed her for me was her awkward humor that doesn't even make sense sometimes and when
she claimed she can't befriends with stupid humans but somehow completely shit the bed in the quiz. being haughty only works when you can back it up
might have improved with time but seems she doesn't feel like it anymore

>>19067623
Honestly I think the blond hair dark skin combo sucks

At this point she should just become San

>>19067313
So now we are not even allowed to have preferred colors for PNGs?

>>19067173
she's weird and doesn't stream

After Rushia got fired why should anyone in Hololive put any effort? Just use it as a stepping stone for your career and to increase your clout. It's the smart thing to do.

>>19067173
I think a big soft brown retarded potato is endearing at first, but its not gonna be a popular choice and you need to have some real personality and actually stream.

>>19067173
design is ugly. Not even the black is the reason, I just hate cow tits

>>19067623
putting them together, i can def see what you mean

>>19067623
Flare has the lowest sub count in her gen and her skin shade keeps getting lighter every year

Even iRys turns up the brightness on her model just a tad to get a few shades lighter.

Dark skin is a debuff and anyone claiming otherwise is in dental

>>19067173
Her mic fucking SUCKS.

>>19067173
Rushia singlehandedly surpassed her sub count on her new YouTube account.

>>19067551
yeah no, her model was the worst of the council and the skin just made it even worse. Pair that with her 'dog' dying and taking a month off at a very critical stage of her growth and now she barely streams at all.
Honestly, someone else should have been given her spot, someone who would actually stream and try their best rather than just streaming barely on the side and still prioritizing her main job instead. There were probably thousands of people who would have put in 50x more effort than her

I will not watch anybody with dark skin.

>>19067623
>>19067873
As a brown girl conossieur I disagree; Her skin color is fine as it is, though I agree her model looks off.
The cold fact is that the vast majority of the people in the world, including brown people themselves, prefer light skin. Don't let woketards pretend its a thin of the past.

>>19070121
>calls himself connoisseur
>is blind
might want to get those eyes checked

>>19069706
Please; Flare barely even counts as brown by now. Its more like a tanned tone.

>>19070196
There is nothing wrong with her shade of brown tho; Its not like its green or highly unsaturated, its a perfectly normal shade that you can find on real life people.

>>19067173
her dogs die way too fast

>>19067623
>flare is fine,
Dude, Flare is literally 600k subs behind the closest sankisei member. The others have passed or are close to 1.5 million subs whereas Flare still hasn't cleared 1 million

>>19067173
Brown.

Sana don't look!

>>19067313
stfu nigger

If she had Sara's model she'd have been popular
Also her voice is annoying, accent doesn't help
Her humor is weird
Can speak Japanese but never tried to bond with JPs
Doesn't draw as much as she was supposed to
Play the most boring games with the most boring commentary
Horoscopes

>>19067173
she has the ugliest model in the entire history of vtuber

She's just boring.

>>19068046
Suisei, but that's more because because she went from a model she made herself to a professionally made one.

>>19070603
>Horoscopes
That's the only good thing about her.

She's too low saturation. There's not enough warmth to her skin tone and it's got a pallid greyness to it. I'm certain that's what puts people off when looking at her avatar vs fanart.

>>19070603

Even if she wasn't a nigger, I refuse to watch an EN who has anything other than an American or Canadian accent. The rest sound bad.

>>19067173
Shit model
Shit personality
Least streaming hololive member, beating Ayame Risu and Shion somehow

>>19069706
Now use Hayama and Mao

>>19068319
She is a chinese, just living in australia

Never disliked her charc, it just looks weird in her model for some reason, a lot of her 2D fanart is imo giga coom, she's a nig AL Formidable after all.

I really disliked her personality though, couldn't even stand watching her release stream for 15 mins and never manage to watch her much after that.

>>19068420
>Loving chinks
disgusting

>>19070734
I refuse to watch an EN who doesn't have strong accent

Maybe if she’d stream she might grow a bit.

>>19067173
Bad streamer that doesn't stream and if she does it's only content no one cares about. Without the hololive brand she would be a literal 2view that might grow into a 3view after 5 years.
If it was two days ago I would've said I wish we would've gotten someone that cares but since the Rushia cutoff I don't really care about hololive much more either and hope the chuubas find a less exploitive and backstabbing home at some point.

>>19068046
Flare

>>19070603
>Can speak Japanese but never tried to bond with JPs
She had gorilla collabs with both Watame and Pekora before her first break.

>>19070690
Right does look a lot better

>>19070821
>gets wasted on half a can of beer
>can't drive worth a damn
We know

>>19071053
>hope the chuubas find a less exploitive and backstabbing home at some point.
Right after chuubas stop backstabbing their coworkers and employers.

>>19070577
>whereas Flare still hasn't cleared 1 million
Yea... I've also noticed none of the dark skin girls have broke 1 million subs yet. Including those that been with hololive for years.
>Flare - 862,000 subs
>IRyS - 778,000 subs
>Sana - 294,000 subs
Frankly speaking, maybe having dark skin does make it harder to gain subscribers.

>>19072182
IRyS is white now >>19072048
There's no excuses for her. If she's apparently so fucking great why is her growth so slow? She's overrated as hell.

>>19072048
Literally nothing is changed with her skin color. Her model is just more clear and crisp now so colors are can be seen better.

>>19072352
It still makes her look white to people new to her, which is how you grow (by pulling new people in). The improved colours and clarity only looks that way if you have a reference so the only ones who would notice are the original fans who didn't give a shit anyway. IRyS is a coward.

>>19068046
Migo...

>>19070378
>its a perfectly normal shade that you can find on real life people.
no it isn't, get your eyes checked
it's too green

>>19070121
Her hair/clothes don't go well with her skin color at all. People drooling over her shots form which had altered colors for her hair and clothes prove this.

>>19070378
Maybe if they are diseased. Doesn't make it appealing or attractive though.

>>19072584
remember what they took from you

>>19072683
It's all because the decided to go with the lorefag route while making her design.

>>19067313
It's the truth, though. Darkies not welcome.

>>19067779
She is 169 cm tall? Seems pretty normal to me

>a whole entire month off for a dead dog

>>19070690
What the fuck, it's barely different but somehow far better. Why is cover so shit at everything?

Sana is still trash though and wouldn't be popular even with a better model.

>>19067173
>>19067246
She’s the opposite of Nessa

Nigger!

the rise of gura

mogging everyone by a mile... what the fuck

>>19073009
She's the gym leader that gets me the hardest

>>19067173
She literally never streams.
That's pretty much the only reason.

>>19067173
I fuckin hate her face. Not her skin or hair color but her basic happy face and her atrocious rigging. Riggers are killing tubers but then some tubers like Sana killing themselves by not doing their god damn job.

>>19070603
She also seems to make a weird blob of saliva every time she tries to talk, added to the disgusting accent makes her unbearable to listen to.

>>19073327
say what?

Her design is a huge factor. I don't dislike it really. What I dislike is she's too into her lore I mean it's not bad but it just way too much for me .

>>19073986
Though for real I think holo dive way too deep into council's lore like wtf I like lores and stuff but too much is too much.

>>19067313
Just becuz its 2022 its no longer allowed? Whats the difference between 2022 BC, 1930, and 2022? NIGGER

Wow. You weren't kidding, guys. Sana hardly streams that much.
Her last stream was 10 days ago. And the one before that was 3 weeks ago.

>>19070597
Watch out Sana, she's going to out-whore you!

>>19067246
Design debuff more like.
I have no fucking idea what was Pako thinking here.

>>19072352
She probably changed the exposure or white balance in the OBS settings a little bit. It's barely distinguishable that she probably didn't noticed.

>>19070933
Faggot

>>19076904
Yea I thought the same. Her whole model is a little bit brighter now so no changes in skin color whatsoever.

>>19076904
I recall Hayama doing the same thing in summer 2020 she’s shiter now than before

>>19067173
Artist that doesn't draw
Streamer that doesn't stream

I was into this lazy shitter at first. Then she took a month off, and I just lost interest.

>>19073009
>people don’t like dark sk-
Been like two years and this chick still gets mountains of porn made.

What people don’t like is garbage art and models. Well, and actual africans.

>>19070603
>If she had Sara's model she'd have been popular
Or Levi's

>>19070690
>Left is gross, right is distilled SEX
What the fuck. I had no idea something this minor could be so important.

>>19077470
Who is this actual sex bomb?

>>19069062
>mass graduation
I'm not following anyone after they graduate if that happens, I don't even watch most of their streams anymore after I took the indie pill

Why doesn't she stream often? Is there any reason to become a vtuber if you are barely doing any streaming?

>>19077523
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJBYLXS0LuRlKO5x2e_XJLA

>>19077670
I'm gonna need more reference on that panties of her

>>19068046
Flare, search the gen3 recruitment art.
or most of the talent's 1.0 L2Ds

>>19067173
Honestly it's not even the skin, that's the least of her problems (and not even an actual issue honestly).
You guys saw how she was in the 6 month collab. The same jokes... bread, dog, headpats over and over to the point that she was predictable, and barely any chemistry with her own genmates.
She barely streams as well, and if she does it's always the same thing.

Most people would've eventually given her a chance if she had a charming personality and was good at streaming like Irys, but she just isn't, i'm gonna be honest. I love her roommate, but she isn't cut out for streaming.

I say this as a frustrated Sanalite that's been a member to her since day 1 btw

>>19067173
>Be a streamer that doesn't stream
A daring concept that worked well enough for Ayame but Ayame at least streamed in the crucial early phase.

>>19067173
Pako's design sucks ass, it's painful to see that fucking ugly face

>>19077967
If she streamed more she would develop a better personality, better interactions and better jokes.

>>19072182
This is legit the only place I see people call Irys dark skinned. Her problem isn't skin, it's that ugly ass model Redjuice cursed her with. She needs a live2d update like Flare got.

>>19067173
>Doesn't streams.
>Lackluster engagement with chat.
>Off-putting accent.

1) she got hit by susan
2) southeast asians do not want to look at brown people regardless of what 'white' liberals in san francisco claim
3) Sana really hurt her growth with endless breaks
4) Hololive income really isn't that substantial if you're not doing well/consistent, so Sana basically played herself and is at a point where her Art income/doing art for Cover gets her more money than doing streams, so she's better off making 100k a year doing art than making 50k a year on streams or whatever

It's basically a self-defeating cycle where she had HAD a ticket to easy money and kind of fucked it up, but on the other hand working for Cover means it's easy for her to get art jobs, making her less likely to actually stream and prolonging her problem of no one being able to watch her (because she doesn't stream).

>>19067246
Would she gain popularity of she pulled a Michael Jackson?

>>19077470
Now this is how you do a brown skin vtuber. Pako is a hack

>>19077316
Ethiopian girls are hot though, west africans are the ones who have a 50% chance of looking fucked up.

>>19078134
I highly doubt it, honestly.
She would just find more jokes to run into the ground. Her weird Starly joke during her 12 hour BDSP runs were unbearable.
I'm saying this as someone that's watched her since day 1, she recycles talking points all the time to the point I can predict what she's going to say during streams.

I don't know what happened to her, but after her dog died it's like she got a lobotomy or something.

>>19067313
Pre-debut/Post-design-reveal her channel had significantly less subscribers than her genmates.

>>19067582
what is an Ayame , dear anon?

>>19077670
Looks like most of her content is on Twitch. Amazing model too.

She looks good in her designer's artwork, she should have been a loli

>All this talk about which particular tones of brown are good which are bad for a character
Great. Now I'm worried about that for myself.

>>19070577
Flare had a massively fucked-up model at the start too, though.

>>19070690
Wtf is this sorcery?

>>19078573
Her papa is a Saint and I feel really bad for him. It seems he has a good relationship with Sana due to being colleagues but I would be upset with her performance if I was him.

>>19070690
Pako sucks at choosing colors then

>>19067873
Imagine being a professional artist and having to use that model to stream, no wonder she bails.

>>19067313
https://files.catbox.moe/lb24ez.mp4

I remember Ina and chicken were racing to a million sometime around their half year anniversary, after 6 months council isn’t a flop but they didn’t put in the work and unfortunately myth thought they would and relaxed a bit too much.

>>19067173
she is ugly both irl and vtuber

>>19079071
Tbf thats because myth was a fresh new thing for a LOT of the normies in the west, not to mention gura exploded which gave the others a lot of new subs, but after a while most of those normies stopped watching because at the end of the day watching vtubers is a very niche activity, more so in the west, it's why they have such a massive amount of dead subs and why councils is having a harder time hitting the M digits.

>>19079071
>>19079258
EN1 got novelty bonus.
By the time of EN2 it had already ended.

>>19067173
twintal planets are ugly, people say it's because of her skin when her twintails are fucking retarded and ugly
not streaming as a streamer is a bad idea
simple as

rip

>>19067173
I still like her, that is all.

She is so forgettable can someone tell me one area she stands as compared to her genmates

>>19088808
I would say art but she doesn't stream that.
uh... being brown I guess..? I got nothing

t.Sanalite

>>19067173
Disappeared for a month during a critical fanbase building period of her career to cry about a dog, hardly streams but when she does it for hours. Also, has a live 2d that is dark skin.

>>19073327
Other people around the world have to listen to the retarded American drawl, it's nice to have a change. Although I prefer the rrat over this talentless jobber.

>>19072048
>irys whitewashed herself

Ultra kek

>>19090653
I'm gonna be honest with you anon these days I believe me and many others associate art with mumei rather than Sana in council

>>19067173
Boring desing (don't care about skin color just change those clothes) and tame personality

>>19091492
variety doesn’t help when you can barely understand what she’s saying half the time, get a brit instead and watch profits skyrocket

>>19091925
>says that the problem is her incomprehensible accent
>thinks a fucking brit would do better
kek

>>19091899
not suprising because Mumei does more serious art streams than Sana. It's a shame because Sana's serious art is gorgeous, but she wants to fuck around and pretend she has other redeeming qualities that make her worthwhile over the others.

this pic is an example of artwork she makes when she's being serious.

I'm guessing she doesn't want to do drawing streams because that's all she's doing off-stream, but yeah. It's a shame. It would be interesting to watch. I tried to support her early on, but she streams so little, so she never gets over the initial awkwardness

>>19092369
That's nice why doesn't she do horoscope while doing art streams and incorporate traits and quirks related to signs in the art

>>19092369
It is actually hilarious that Sana never does art streams. Her roommate used to do them all the time on Twitch.

>>19078779
Pako is literally colourblind. Why do you think Nobunaga only has 2 main colours?

killed her dog for pity views
streaming while black

>>19078205
Baelz has more than double sana's uploads, jesus

>>19092574
I really don't know why she doesn't It's a shame that she's not leaning on the strength she was gifted with
>>19092675
I never got around to watching her on twitch, but I used to watch her art streams back in 2010 or so. She was extremely fun. Don't know what happened

>>19078205
>Kronii only has like 16% more uploads than sana

>>19070719
pure sex

Digusting white trash bogan accent

>>19078367
I agree with you, but why are you still membered to her?

>>19092218
I despise bongs but that anon is correct. There are brits with clear but still distinguished accents

>>19067873
MAKE HER PITCH BLACK BUT KEEP THE LIGHT HAIR
ITLL FUCKING FIT THE DARK EMPTY VACCUUM OF SPACE

75% design, 25% her voice. I hate to say it but she just doesn’t offer much and at the end of the day, is less interesting, to a broad audience, than most of the EN members.

>>19093526
I won't be membered to her whenever my current cycle ends. last month was my final chance for her and she disappointed majorly this month. I'm tired of giving her excuses just for the same old boring streams when she comes back once in a blue moon.

You guys must be joking blaming the design when Irys exists and she's near the 1 Million subs

>>19067173
I dunno if she either picked up Hololive as a sidejob while juggling art duties because she saw Ina do it, or she decided to focus on them again after being fucked by just about everything the first few months, but she clearly cannot do both. She's about as active on her art roommate account than she is on Sana, if not more so. Her pinned schedule is from fucking January.

>>19093024
Fate boost

>>19092218
literally mysta from a male vtuber from niji does better

So what's the good color tone of brown a Vtuber must have for it to not be a debuff then?

>>19094786
scroll up, 2 examples were already posted

>>19067246
>>19067623
>>19067873
>>19069706
Yeah, actual good brown girl designs do exist, hers isn't one of them.

>>19067173
Shes a dumpy, 5/10 girl who barely streams and if she does, its the same few boring games. I had to un-member her because she doesnt, and will never bother to, improve herself as a streamer. Maybe she wouldve been a good pick back
when Hololive had one gen and no direction. The present is far different though. With the rest of the talent roster today and what they all want to, and do bring to the table. She falls dramatically short of being worthy of her place within Hololive.
She needs to step her game up. Ina is in a similar boat to Sana and Ina thankfully at the bare minimum, lives up to the standard the other girls have worked tirelessly to instill these past years.

>>19095552
another person that actually used to watch Sana saying exactly how I feel about her. I gave her way more chances than she deserves but honestly, i'm done with her. There's no point to paying for a membership to her given we'd be lucky to get more than 1 stream a month nowadays that isn't pokemon or animal crossing.

>>19067173
When will Sana quit because she realizes she doesn't enjoy being an idol or streaming 5 days a week?

>>19067173
Why should she be?

>>19096571
Sana is truly a case of looking better in all her fanart. She looks so cute here, but her actual model repels me. How did Cover manage to do this?

>>19097011
Pako is a hack.
He draw good shit so I have no idea where the fuck he went so wrong with Sana.

>>19067173
Gave her a chance and enjoyed her whacky horoscope streams
Stopped streaming, unfunny and spastic during collabs, only long ass 12h streams
No reason to watch her really

>>19067313
A-am I on the wrong website or something?

>>19070598
more white than black probably

>>19096316
Dont get me wrong I liked her a lot. When she can muster up the confidence she works well with the other girls. Sometimes showing promise that she could lead bigger projects. Like during the minecraft stream with Gura, Fauna, Mumie and Ame. She took charge during the build of that ginger bread house in a very soft but direct way. Shes very earnest and has a uniquely silly personality, at least among the rest of the EN girls. The way she giggles like a goof ball are her most endearing moments, it shows how genuine she is.
I wont support her though. Shes already told anyone who would question her choices to fuck off, and made it clear how shes ok with her mediocre performance. Maybe its because a situation that she cant speak of, like Moris teaching job or Inas priestess duties, something that keeps her from going 100%. Or maybe she really doesnt mind being the least preforming holo in all fields, Idk.
If she decides to make a serious change in the future ill be happy to go back. But I wont hold my breath.

>>19070734
The only American/Canadian vtuber with a good and tolerable accent is Juniper. Maybe Gura

there are enough dark skin chubas out there that are pure sex design and doing well for themselves

sana just dropped the ball by not streaming, she seemed the most fun right after debut but all the fun stuff she did she ended not doing anymore

Has she ever given a reason as to why she barely streams? Besides from that period at the start with the dog.

>>19067173
For one she hardly streams.

Two, her design. Most Japs agree paler = prettier, so darker skin is more niche. That ends up carrying over to most weebs as well. Also her face is looks like someone just used a "how to draw anime" book.

>>19098061
Doing work for cover. The anniversary merch confirmed she isn't doing a lot for them, though. She's just too fucking slow.

>>19098061
Honestly, I think >>19094268 got it right.
Ina is her buttbuddy, Ina got into Vtubing, she thought it would be a cool thing to do/thought it would be a cool thing to do and got Ina to wink wink nudge nudge her in, she got in... and then she realized it was not as fun as expected and lost all desire to continue.

>>19098326
>Also her face is looks like someone just used a "how to draw anime" book.
I don't understand, she looks absolutely nothing like the other characters her papa has drawn

>>19067623
the shade is fine, but it clashes with the rest of her color scheme
i quite like pakos art but its too loose and maybe a bit too simple for a vtuber rig. doesn't look great in motion and overall feels a bit cheap, especially compared to everyone else

>>19067750
>we will never have a proper gyaru holomem because of Sana
Thanks for giving me another reason to hate her.

>>19067173
Cover should give her a gyaru outfit. I dont know if that would boost the numbers but it would surely boost my dick

>>19100238
Let's just be thankful that the design she got was trash so nothing was truly lost. If they'd wasted a gyaru design on such a boring-ass person I'd have killed myself.

>>19067173
Brah, her model is extremely ugly. It's jarring seeing it in action, especially when she's collabing. Maybe you people got used to it but me and others clearly didn't and we don't wanna watch her.
Even Irys grew on me but I just can't with Sana. I really tried but the model is a big part of being a chuuba and she just looks bad.

>>19068319
Rat is great, but she’s still in the bottom 5 of Hololive girls. The five of which who are the only ones who have yet to break the 500,000 milestone at that. The three between the Aussies are Anya, Lui,and Fauna for the record.
Sana is still doing better than the Holostars and the majority of vtubers outside of Hololive

>>19078205
How come Bae is the only one who gives a shit about her job?

>>19105179
>Sana is still doing better than the Holostars and the majority of vtubers outside of Hololive
No shit Sherlock, what's your point?
>WWWWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWW SANA IS DOING BETTER THAN THIS RANDOM VTWEETER WHO'T NOT EVEN DEBUTED YET SO SHE'S NOT SHIT HATERS BTFO
The comparisons are kept between Hololives for a reason, otherwise they'd have no point at all.

>>19067173
Many vtubers want to be on hololive and thia dumb bitch doesn't stream.
Fucks, if she act like this or was better be an indie vtuber just for fun while having ia IRL job, but NOOOO she just wanted the fame of hololive while not working hard

>>19067173
>dissapear almost right after her debut
>garbage model
gee I wonder why

>>19067173
give her a different color patter on some new clothes, the current ones just a mush with no contrast, looks like shit

Sana fucks off every other month. What do you expect?

>>19077967
>Most people would've eventually given her a chance if she had a charming personality and was good at streaming like Irys
I'll be honest. I was put off by Irys' model when I first saw it.
It just looked noticeably out of place and different from the other hololive members. Her face had a slightly more realism artstyle compared to the other models.

Thankfully tho, she had a great personality that won me over.
She's entertaining to watch, engages with her chat often, has great synergy with other hololive girls, and puts out lots of fun streams every week.
Maybe Sana could learn a thing or two from Irys. Like even if you're stuck with a model that isn't that great, being a good entertainer can more than make up for it.

>>19067173
Wasted spot in HoloEN thanks OmegaAlphag

>>19067173
>>19069706
>>19070690
Something like this.

But ofc, the model just gets people in the door, it's your content that keeps them.

>>19106366
Now she looks orange.

>>19106366
she looks irradiated. you overdid the saturation but i get your point. the model still has glaring issues beyond coloring though.

Just redo the design in general, it's unsalvageable.
Go with something more like either Rosalina for an elegant space theme, or something like Kat from Gravity Rush if you want a cute brown gravity themed girl.

>>19077967
its sort of a shame to see the lack of chemistry she has with the other 4 girls desu and I think the recent council collab just made it how apparent it is

>>19078573
Its the model thats the problem not Pako

All or nothing

>>19106782
based

>>19106366
Orange woman bad

>worst model in her gen
>hired for her art skills, doesn't do art streams
>took a month break shortly after debut, killing all momentum
>streams once a week at most
>loud voice and thick accent
>childish sense of humor

>>19098025
GATO SEXO UOOHHHH QUERO FOLLAR ESTA GATITA CHICHONA

her voice is grating and idk her personality isnt the most pleasant. i found her kinda irritating during the last council collab

>>19106475
The eyes didn't work whatever i tried either.
Tried to eventually give them a glow, but it's not just the coloring, it's the way they were drawn.

>>19106624
RIGGER HATE

She'd still be a bomb even if she were white between the awful design, awful model, awful accent, never streaming and way more other things.

>>19106366
yuge tittehs lolz0rs xD a little trump joek for yall

>>19068030
>virtue signaling
racists are "virtue signalers" now? ywnbj. japs barely like flare either

>>19106555
the only council members that seem to have any chemistry is fauna and mumei. kronii and sana both fighting for the role of dumbest person on the screen. don't have much to say about bae since she left to take a shit midstream

>>19077967
irys’ model is way more initially off putting than Sana’s. it has grown on me a bit but seeing irys next to any other Holo makes her seem totally out of place.
The big reason Sana is failing is that she doesn’t stream and takes long breaks to not stream more. Really makes Ina look bad too.
Sana is going to need to Stream as much as Bae to develop her character further (and get some clips for more attention) and then start seeking Collabs (NOT WITH INA) so people get more interested.

>>19078205
Oh no wonder Kronii video list looked so small to me today, damn must sting for Sana ngl, never realized Kronii was this lazy, also hasn't streamed in almost a week, model buff op.

g2ps0

I wonder if Ina regrets hooking up Sana.

>>19070690
Someone should unironically send this to her, if IRyS can increase her gamma then Sana can increase her saturation

She treats it like a tertiary job, she's obviously not bothered if her numbers are low

>>19107195
Mumei has good chemistry with Kronii and Bae as well, though everyone’s chemistry with Bae gets overshadowed if you compare it to bae’s chemistry with irys.

Honestly I feel the most for the ones that didn't get in, and now see that Sana hardly ever streams.

>she barely streams
>i barely watch streams
WE ARE

never ever seen her in a single clip or in my oshis stream, if i hadnt seen her in group photos i wouldnt know she ever debuted

>>19107128
>japs barely like flare either
>is one of the bigger superchat earners in the company
huh wat u mean

>>19072584
・△・

>>19107373
Kronii has a model buff but her persona and voice also set her apart from other HoloEn giving her a niche.
That is true for all of them of course, but Kronii is a bit like Pekora (without the talent and charisma) in that she acts super haughty but people laugh at her when that inevitably breaks down.
It feels wrong to compare her to a talent Pekora but I hope you get what I meant by that. Perhaps Daffy Duck would have been a better comparison?

>>19105255
>the uploads are inversely proportional to how well they were acquainted with Ina before joining hololive

>>19107636
Japan is a weird place and 50% of Flare's fans are women who like 'cool' women who they either see as tough or are just dykes (which by japanese standards again means a woman who is too masculine to attract a normal mate, masculinity by japanese standards meaning she likes toy trucks instead of cookware).

>>19070690
that looks way better holy shit, just adding a little saturation makes the image look less flat and more alive.

not that it matters anyway since she never streams

>>19107636
Just like Kiara, surely that means she's one of the most popular members too eh

>>19107272
Neither Ina or Sana give a shit. This is the Ina show and she doesn't care if you watch.

>>19105845
IRyS has some problems that I don't like that specifically have to do with her personality, though most people wouldn't notice them.

How many hololive clipper have more subs than her?

>>19107962
Ina never cared much, this was always just a hobby rather than a job to her. But that is fine, it means she still does her part and is sometimes better than caring too much like Kiara or hating it like Mori.
Sana takes that and then adds on to it by not even caring about it as a hobby.

>>19108011
Is it that she is way too interested in Drama and NTR?

She just doesn't fucking stream.

>>19108098
This. Ina does the bare minimum at worst. Sana not even that.

>>19106366
god i want those big orange tits and feet in my face

>>19069706

chocolate tiddies around my dick

During debut I was all in on Sana, but holy shit how do you shoot yourself in the foot so hard


Also Baelz inclining HARD

>>19067173
She doesn't stream enough. She's streamed once in February.

>>19108133
She tweets things like "I'm bad at communication
:(" which is obviously a lie. I think IRyS (the vtuber) is interesting, but I also think she's basically like Ame from NSO, her personality is tailored to appeal to nerds. It's not real, which is a shame, but I guess holding it against her would be wrong.

>>19108603
None of them are real, but I get what you mean. Some of them may be more cynical about it than others.

I didn't like her model.

I don't like her voice.

I don't like her personality.

She takes breaks, I don't like that.

>>19108063
There's Holocrumb. Thats about it.

>>19108701
>>19108063
misread the question. Thought you said how many holo clippers clipped her.

>>19108063
there's a channel with a single 12 second long black video that has more subs than her

voice is the biggest asset to any streamer.

if someone has a shitty voice they won't be fun to watch, no matter what. sana's voice is terrible, her model is even worse than pako's usual which is downright impressive, she doesn't stream so she can't get some offshoot fanbase... there is nothing going for her. she would need to put in an insane amount of effort to overcome her inherent debuffs. the funny thing is that she definitely could if she did unique art streams, she has the skills there -- yet decides to not utilize them at all. shit, she's even better than most other holos at games but it's so agonizing to watch her play even games i like because of her voice/model mix that i can't stand it.

>>19107007
Exactly. People use her dark skin as a reason she's unpopular, but honestly it's not that. It's her personality that's, ironically, stale as bread.

>>19067173
doesnt stream

>>19106366
Kneel

I like her, but I don't consistently watch her streams. Fauna is my favorite

>>19109538
Darker.

>>19108799
Sana's voice isn't even as bad as Kiara's.

>>19109883
>but I don't consistently watch her streams
no one does

>>19067173
the hair balls are dumb, at least make them smaller

>>19108676
I would like to believe at least her friendship with Baelz is real but her interactions with her chat/viewers (ugh I'd be SO depressed if not for you guys!/always laughs at every superchat) feel very fake. At the very least goslings are setting themselves up for disappointment.

>>19093690
That'd actually draw all of my dimes.

Her hair and dress and color scheme are awful to look at, also blubby face

>>19067871
IRyS has a personality. Sana doesn't.

>>19100238

>>19104460
>nothing was truly lost
Loss of a slot that could have gone to someone with talent and drive rather than a nepotism hire.

>>19112054
Let's not pretend Sana is the first nepotism hire either though.

>>19095027
Latest Prism and Tsunderia waves really made me kneel

>>19106366
BAD LADY ORANGE REEEEEEE

>>19093471
Bro her rm isn’t white.......

>obnoxious voice
>brown
>unfunny

I want to like her, she is actually my favorite design in council and she's very cute/nice but she never streams and also her personality just isn't that entertaining. I can watch a 10 hour marathon Pokemon stream and at the end of it, not remember a single memorable/noteworthy moment whereas other girls always have an endless stream of great clips. She relies on the same few memes over and over again for six months now.

>>19109883
I fucking loved Sauna's first MC and their Human Fall Flat collabs. Great synergy. Don't know what happened after that.

>>19106782
small mouth and nose really damage the afrocentric message hololive NEEDS to spread. Like, come on hololive!?!?! We've seen anime women #4001, how about finally attacking the unrealistic beauty standards that us westerners face every living day? people of colour should be entitled to as much enjoyment as the dominant white population

I do think that Sana may be the first EN girl to retire.

The growth of her subscriber count has really stagnated, and maybe she'll simply quit because she isn't seeing any progress in continuing this vtuber gig.
I mean, Sana is not receiving the same motivational boost that the other EN members receive, who keeping gaining many new followers every month.

>>19116956
maybe she'd get that boost if she streamed more than once in a blue moon

model sucks ass

>>19114208
If she did more, smaller and varied streams she'd probably have some new material.

>>19109538
You're on the right track. Her skin needs to be full on vanta black, but covered with star freckles.
Then her design would be perfect.

>>19116308
>no gigantic potato nose
>no massive 4-inch thick lips
>no collapsed, receding braincase
>hair looks like hair instead of steel wool
>whites of her eyes aren't an unhealthy reddish-yellow
This is racist and does not depict the rich diversity of African-Americans correctly.