/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>19032830
You guys said that about Aloe and Coco and Mori and Kiara? This time its different right?

This is like the hololive fan learning Santa isn't real

>>19032830
Yeah, illusions about them being close shattered. That's what got me into Hololive in the first place. Dynamics between girls.

>>19032830
Because no one like Rushia

she betrayed her family first
and for what? alien twink

>>19032830
That is the cold hard truth
We can assume Rushia betrayed the “family” somehow and everyone just agree to kick her out because of that.you are just not part of the family anymore when you betray them first

>>19032830
Welcome tourist, stop being a clipnigger

>>19033016
What she does in her private life is none of your business.

>>19032830
It’s actually like a Mafia family. Rushia violated Omertà.

>>19033063
Leaking information of the company you work in and breaking your NDA it is cuckdead

>>19033063
Sure, but when she damages the private lives of her friends on purpose, then it becomes a matter of business.

>>19032830
Rushia stabbed them in the back; everyone being indifferent towards her getting fired is probably the most she can ask for.

>>19032830
Give me a single video or source of anyone claiming that there was ever a family bond in Hololive.

This a rrat trotted out endlessly by Nijikeks in an attempt to artificially create a weakness in a superior group.

Hololive isn't a family. They are however friends and contrary to the other false rrat - the chemistry of most groups of them are as good as it gets and their talent when performing on stage can't compare to any other vtuber group. That's it.

its a fucking job there was never a family aspect to it
its not like Rushia is evaporating from this plain of existence, if they want to talk to her they still can but she's most likely a fucking bitch and the others tolerated her at best is my guess so they probably wont

>>19032830
Towa and Matsuri went through this before her but they behaved as they should and are still part of the company
>>19033063
The fact that almost no Holo cares should tell you enough.to know how much she fucked up.

>>19033193
>superior group
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO you wish that was true.

>>19033063
I think
>>>/twitter/
is where you belong

>>19032830
She broke the "masquerade" she's out and black listed. Her fault.

>>19033193
>They are however friends
I've talked to, hanged out with, and went to events with my coworkers.
I would not consider ANY of them my friends.

>>19032830
I wonder if the other holos are going to do off collabs with her like they did with Coco, such as Choco and Mel. To me that was a sign that they really did like Coco.

>>19033285
They didn't cry, threaten suicide, and then leak info to keemstar like channels.

>>19032830
The fact nobody felt sad or cried for Rushia says a lot of how they felt about her or what they did, heck you can tell Flare was very passive-agressive there.
Whatever Rushia did, it definitely fucked their trust, but they weren't as close to begin with.

>>19033144
>>19033184
>>19033285
That post was about the Mafumafu controversy, not about her leaking stuff. Her relationship with Mafumafu is not anyone's business.

>>19033450
Rushia was always the odd one out of gen 3. They'd all have collabs and off collabs etc between each other but not Rushia as often as with each other..

>>19032830
Marine's insane and I don't watch her but she does seem the most genuine and open out of their talent. She probably feels bad Rushia's enduring so much at once and is legit worried about her hurting herself. It's a big contrast from chuubas that are able to talk about it politely.

>>19032830
What the fuck did she do?

>>19033193
Your ilk pushed the narrative that Hololive is a big happy family, and Nijisanji is full of cliques and isolated friendgroups. One of these "facts" got busted wide open. Holomems shed no tears over Rushia's cold termination. Not even her own gen.

>>19032830
Fuck off, nijinigger. No matter what you do, I'll never watch Nijisanji.

>>19033430
Yup, that showed how much they loved Coco. We have to wait and see if Rushia is just as loved.

>>19033193
That's some insane copium, my friend. But don't worry, one day you will realize what is true friendship when you start watching NijisanjiEN

>>19033189
>Rushia stabbed them in the back
proof?

>>19033558
You're just jealous your Nijis will never be treated as valuable as the Holos. Cry more, nigger.

>>19032830
>they cried about somebody they liked
>but they didn't cry about somebody they didn't like all that much
>wow they aren't a family at all
>fucking corpos
Take your meds

>>19033601
Why would I settle for Holo rejects? Nijis will never be loved as much as the Holos.

>>19032830
IT'S A BUSINESS YOU FUCKING DUMBASS
EVERYTHING, YES, FUCKING EVERYTHING, IS AN ACT
THAT'S IT

>>19032830
I thought you said COVER doesn’t unperson talents?

>>19032830
pekora also teared up and noel was clearly holding it in. regardless, considering their way of dealing with the situation in general and everything >we know it sounds like rushia betrayed their trust, why would they give it much thought?

>>19032830
>no one cried except for Marine
Marine was crying? No, not my poor pirate...

>>19033558
And nobody cares when a Nijisanji member graduates because the next wave with 5 members comes around to soften the blow and everyone forgets about them since their channel gets wiped, other than a few cover songs not long after. How is that any different?

>>19033302
Nijis aren't as valuable as Holos cause there are just too many of them.

>>19032966
Fuck off, nijinigger.

>>19033771
> noel was clearly holding it in
Hmmm

people had more of emotional reaction from the girl who got famous or reading reddit memes
should tell you a lot about holo fans

>>19033633
>>19033802
The difference is Nijifags aren't running around pretending that everyone in the company will make a huge fuss about graduation. During the back to back Coco Lulu graduations, the gloat was severe. You don't see anyone going around wondering why every member didn't comment on Lulu or half the KR branch, because Nijifags know the company is too big for anyone to give a shit.

>>19032830
>Japanese company
>Corporate slaves

Japanese work culture in a nutshell. This is nothing new. Love the girls, not the brand.

>>19033771
noel sounded like she was in a hurry and flare just wanted to get it over with

>>19032830
If your family member fucks up the way Rushia has, you cut them off. "Blood is thicker than water" is literally used by manipulators to keep you around. When you grow up, you'll realize that having a bond with someone doesn't mean you give them a free pass for everything.

>>19033531
>Her relationship with Mafumafu is not anyone's business.
Then she shouldn't have gone running to Japanese KEEMSTAR to clear her name. That's what caused her to irrevocably ruin her career. But the reality is that it was people's business and she knew that and she fucked up.

Marine cried about the all situation, not for Rushia in particular. She's the only one who tried to talk to her, to find a diplomatic solution but, as she said, soon the situation escalated well above her capacity... She's sad because she is the first to believe in her "coworkers" and in the dream of being in a happy family.
She truly adorable and precious!

>>19033637
Family means no one gets left behind or forgotten.

>>19032830
>Now, I feel like those girls are more similar to corporate slaves than an actual family.
>Now
You're so slow on the uptake I wouldn't be surprised if you told me you thought Archduke Ferdinand was still alive.

>>19033601
>homosexuals forced to pander to Chinese women and women who couldn't make it into HoloEN (which is a true feat, considering EN2 is absolute dogshit)

>>19033890
>>19034058
might have misremembered or misheard noel then. flare definitely sounded a lot more stern, but i don't blame her.

https://twitter.com/hana_macchia/status/1329044583259377674

>>19034209
go back to getting fucked by your "daddy" on stream, hana

>>19034162
Family doesn't mean you have a free pass to fuck over everyone else. Backstabbers like Rushia aren't family.

>>19032830
she had everyones support and threw it away, fuck her she's a bitch

>>19033788
Marine is too good for these rats.

I'm going to kill myself tomorrow

>>19032830
Honestly you have to be mental to think that. Some tubas likes each other, some are neutral and some dislike each other like in every god damn workplace.

>>19034398
See you tomorrow.

>>19033624
So are you saying that all of them suddenly decided to give her the cold shoulder even though almost all of them showed various degrees of sadness for Aloe and Coco?

You know if you don't even get a little sniffle out of Watame you dun goofed big time.

So, how close are the current gen 3 memberd besides PekoMarine and NoeFlare?
Pekora and Noel seem to collaborate a bit so they must at least tolerate each other.

Wouldn't that have been when Hitomi Chris got kicked out, or mel got harassed, or CN got dunked, or aloe was left to get pushed out, or coco 'graduated' after a year of harassment enabled by hostile managers?

family? when was gen 3 ever a family?? They were always just business partners. Maybe rushia should've been more likable

>>19034330
You have no clue what even happened, fearmongering retard.

A corporation is exploiting consumers to make money? Wow no way

>>19034455
The fact that virtually none of them defended Rushia is kinda telling on what the latter did, though. FBK even tried to help freaking Aloe who, what, was part of the company for a few days? (+ few months Gen5 sitting around on Discord)
Think about it, even Rushia's close friends didn't defend her. Makes you wonder what kind of information and false information she leaked.

>>19034580
According to Flare they at least do not hate each other like people say as they still keep in touch with each other, just don’t hang out as a group much

>>19034060
Your family must be cold and unloved and unable to love. If a family member fucks up, yes read the riot act to them but you don't abandon them.

>>19034628
You're right, I'm sure Cover just decided to terminate an employee who made them $3m+ USD and refunded over half a million dollars in pre-orders of Rushia merch because it wasn't actually that serious.

>>19034580
Marine cares too much for everyone

>>19034698
More like you, along with many others, have been conditioned to accept abuse because you just happen to share blood with the abuser.

>>19034162
Family also means you don't fuck with their livelihood.
Family also means you don't sell out your family to cover your own ass.

>>19032830
what absolutely ruined it for me is haachama's reaction
the girl went on an infinite hiatus for coco but she tweeted about stepping in dogshit for rushia kek

>>19034740
this, tomorrow we're all going to wake up and rushia will be streaming and having fun with her friends and co-workers, its a nothingburger

>>19034740
Yes, cope.

>>19034580
It's pretty certain that Flare dislikes everyone but Noel. She tolerates them due to her being the runt of the gen, but she would rather have been completely solo.

>>19033531
God I hate you faggots so much. She was selling GFE. She is expected to be a pure idol who only belongs to her fans. All your kind doing is giving the false expression to people she was actually fucking mafumafu and her fans should just fuck off. Rushia didn't want that. She wanted to keep being that pure idol who did GFE. That's why she tried to clear her name.

>>19032830
Companies only exist to earn profits for shareholders. No company is a "family", no matter how much they want to appear as one.

>>19034585
>Hitomi Chris
Got kicked out for being a whore. Definitely deserved, and she was one of the super early member anyway so they didn't have time to bond anyway
>Mel got harassed
Mel herself literally said that Holo members and her RL friends helped her emotionally. It was Cover who didn't do anything further than firing the dumbass manager
>CN got dunked
3 out of 5 confirmed to have tried to play on Chink sides. Well deserved.
>aloe was left to get pushed out
Cover's method was working until MASSfags decided to fuck everything up. And even then, Gen5 cried a river about Aloe. FBK tried to help her as well.
>Coco 'graduated' after a year of harassment enabled by hostile managers
Yeah, that's why Coco, as Kson, spent a lot of money to sue retards who tried to twist her words to attack Cover. Surely she must be a dumbass who threw away money to protect those who harassed her
And WTF are you talking about? Coco's graduation was filled with emotion

>>19034810
>coworkers
Korekore and MafuMafu? oh wait they're not going anywhere near her

>>19034740
Firstly, I never implied she didn't do something serious. Secondly, just because it was serious doesn't mean it did hurt other members. And finally, YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT HAPPENED, RETARD! STOP POSTING AS IF YOU'RE PART OF THE COMPANY!

>>19034632
FBK is the company bitch. Aloe hurt herself, Rushia hurt the company. FBK would approve of rushia being tortured in front of her.
Just remember her spiel of "As long as I am here you can trust Hololive!".. No Fubuki, you mean "As long as Hololive keeps a worthless hiki like me being paid more then I'm worth I will shill their praises.", that's your slogan FBK, embrace it.

>>19034330
Based

>>19034698
My brother cheated on his wife, lied, stole from the family, lied, did drugs, lied, and married the woman he cheated his wife on. Am I supposed to hate him for the rest of my life? Holding onto grudges is one of the most unhealthiest things in life. Our relationship was damaged but we repaired it and he's calmed down to the point were I'm happy to see him. If you abandon someone because of bad times that's a sign of weakness and insecurity.

>>19032892
Aloe was new. Coco clearly departed on good terms, while everyone expressed deeply missing her.

Mori and Kiara still work for Cover?

>>19033695
Update:apparently they don’t and usually leave the channels up, even aloe is still up, this apparently is a sole exception. The fact that this has happened indicates it was serious enough to get her outright fired, especially after her fake death threats

>>19034887
MODDING
CHINKS

>>19035033
You sound like a cuck.

>>19035033
That's a very nice story. Unfortunately, it overlooks something: your brother clearly attempted to make amends. What exactly has Rushia done? Restart her roommate's account? Nice, always looking out for herself first.

Yea a big happy family, that one side of it gets excluded from and treated as lepers.
This is a corporation, maybe some of the talents are close but there's no family here.

>>19035033
Nane 1 thing Rushia did to repair this

>>19032830
Holy shit are you faggots delusional? Get a life.

>>19034841
She liked Coco, she called her a friend on stream once and called out the Chinese harrassers on her chat.

>>19035215
>that one side of it gets excluded from and treated as lepers.
Unironically, yes. Every large family has a section nobody likes or wants to deal with. If you think yours doesn't, you're probably in the section.

>>19035025
Stop coping you faggot.
Deleting everything, firing their biggest earner, refunding shit at a loss to them, especially with holofes so close.

She fucked up huge.

>>19035129
Aloe was allowed to return to Hololive within a year, she didnt. She was never terminated

>>19034887
Why do you format your post in ways that make me have to work to read it?

>>19034801
I'm afraid for you, because you think terminating relationships is acceptable. For people like you concepts like reconciliation and burying the hatchet must be completely foreign. Your life is bereft of this and you are lacking in human empathy and mistake cynicism and distrust for strength. I hope one day you'll learn to forgive whoever hurt you so you can heal.

>>19033531
The relationship matters to idiots falling for the GFE trick from her. But she ratted out personal info of other members. Thats not what family does. Either she did it because she went menhera or shes an idiot. Either way she basically hurt others.

>>19034499
>even though almost all of them showed various degrees of sadness for Aloe and Coco?

Marine and pekora and many others, kill yourself

>>19035260
Sure she did, she was told to like Coco to take the heat of her.

>>19035293
You being the bitch of the company bitch is sad anon. I wont argue that Rushia shouldn't have been fired. But people holding FBK up as a shining light of justice and friendship that would help anyone is just disgusting.

>>19033771
>it sounds like rushia betrayed their trust
And where were they when Rushia needed them most?

>>19035389
>I'm afraid for you, because you think terminating relationships is acceptable.
Yes? Always has been? You will inevitably be dragged down by people who, knowingly or otherwise, will just use you and use you and use you, and when you come to them for something they'll mysteriously never have the time for it.

>>19035531
>And where were they when Rushia needed them most?
Probably trying to talk her out of suicide, considering her tweets.

>>19035531
Hello Tourist!
Point yourself towards Flares recent tweets talking about depression, Noel talking about "the pain in her heart" that by pure coincidence collide with the Rushia shitfest

I already know you wont since you are just a bugman here to spread rrats.

>>19035033
>Augustus Caesar: Yeah Brutus and Pompey might have murdered my uncle in cold blood but am I supposed to hate them for the rest of my life? Let go of grudges dude.

People like you have some kind of cuck mental illness where you think it's fine to just let cancerous people fuck you over again and again as long as they're sorry.

>>19035699
they want people to take advantage of them, because being "helpful" lets them believe they're a good person and not another dope getting scammed

>>19035406
>and many others
Name five.

>>19035699
You have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thy enemy. But I say to you, Love your enemies: do good to them that hate you.

>>19033558
Nijichads win once again

>>19035925
nah, the default position of Nijisan is losing. The only other position is losing even more.

>sell your family and business out, in Japan of all places, to fucking Japanese Keemstar
????

She's lucky she didn't get forced sudoku'd for all this face loss, Jap families disown you for less than betrayal

>>19033193
Based truthspeaker

>>19035699
>pompey murdering caesar

Pompey died in Egypt in exile retard-kun

Why is everyone now suddenly a skeptical that never believed in Hololive's family bond? Literally everyone praised Hololive for how close the talents are in the past. You're a bunch of opportunists.

>>19036008
Kill yourself like your oshi kek

>>19035542
spoke like a true incel

>>19035895
Jesus also said you shouldn't be a cuck and let your enemies fuck your shit up.

>>19036167
Yeah. Most people are being dishonest here so they can pretend to be smart. "Heh I knew it all along unlike you brainlets."

>>19036090
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sextus_Pompey

For me it didn't matter after I started only watching the Bakatare girls and Aki.

>>19036167
They are nijiniggers seething because no one cared about niji losing two branches because niji is a homoshitter franchise.

>>19036410
rent free

>>19036167
Its fake bullshit, how many yabs have to happen for you realize this

>>19036410
two branches?

>>19036495
Is his statement inaccurate?

>>19035895
Jesus would later go onto say this less quoted wisdom.
>Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn “a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law — a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.”

>>19036750
nyoooooo Jesus was supposed to be a long-haired hippe all about peace and love, mannnnnnn

>>19035025
The same Fubuki that said the moment the company told her to do something she didn't want to she would just up and leave? Sure anon, sure.

>>19032830
Don't know how anyone can pretend it's a family when Flare's doing the world's worst job of hiding contempt. Maybe Holo did secure Elden Ring permissions, because everyone is getting in on the backstabbing action.

>>19034859
This I wish ame is next that bitch should die in a ditch

>>19036723
Yes

>>19033193
>Friends
LMAO YOU NEED MORE MEDS FAGGOT

>>19032830
>such a close, warm and big family
>Most treat Holostars worse than a plague
Karma finally hit Rushia after what she did to my boy Temma

>>19037246
Stars should've never existed.

>>19034740
Thats a big rrat there buddy but ogey

>>19037323
...no? both of those things are factual events: Cover terminated Rushia's contracted and they're refunding over half a million USD from pre-orders of her merch and other assorted Rushia-related items

>>19032830
It wasn't the "incident" it was R*shia.
I feel betrayed

>>19033531
Yes, and two weeks ago, Cover issued a statement defending her and anyone's personal life.

>>19037286
You should've never existed

When a family member commits a crime, they call the police.
Everyone in Hollow Live understands that.
No one is accusing them of covering up.
They've even made it clear that they'll be very careful with the information.

>>19037418
Possibly, but only if Stars gets erased as well.

>>19037385
>...no? both of those things are factual events
In your head maybe lmao
Unless your part of cover its all rrats

>>19033063
Leaking company information is illegal retard.

>>19032830
Took you guys forever to realize this. Too many members. You must be delusional to believe they are all on good terms. Hell, I bet the average member only keeps regular contact with 1 or 2 other members outside of company picked collabs.

>>19037286
Some people enjoy mixing garbage in Hololive.

i feel like coco was a once in a lifetime thing. in a lot of ways she bridged JP and EN audiences and opened the flood gates to an incredible amount of opportunities for the scene. rushia im sure has her fans but shes run of the mill JP gfe with no big impact other than pulling in huge bucks, compared to coco who was a cultural phenom in the vtubing world

>>19037424
>When a family member commits a crime, they call the police.
Do Americans really?

>>19037246
ootl but what did she do to Temma??

>>19037551
Okay, so you're just retarded.

>>19036750
That passage does not contradict in any way the previous one.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_10:36

>>19032830
It's called kayfabe, anon. They don't actually want to fuck each other, either.

Niggers you really are retarded, you can't read nuisance at all, this only comes to reafirm my beliefs on hololive being close, specially given how marine and pekora felt bad about giving her so much help but she still fucking up, Flare and noel being rather annoyed and many holos not amused by her behaviour.
If someone you consider a friend does dirty to you like that, you would act the same.

>>19037393
>Flare's rape
Wtf

>>19033418
Fucking this. You even have to pretend to have good relationships with those who you hate, because if not, it will tarnish the image of your company.

Hololive is so fake...

>Coworkers aren't friends
Shocking. Shocking I tell you.

>>19036167
I believe in some bonds within hololive, and I believe most talents are intelligent enough to try and cultivate a friendly environment inside holo as a whole, but it's just impossible to believe they're one big family. That's just a part of the fantasy, as much as Watame being a sheep or Pekora being a princess.

>>19032830
>So many people like Hololive because the talents seem to be such a close, warm and big family
that's so late 2020 anon.
here, back then, you can at least see some people wish all the best for the girls.
now?
hating on the girls is based, unity is cringe.
they think they all hate each other.
Cover did nothing wrong, it's all the girls fault.
it's all about the numbers. the viewers, the amount of money they make, etc.
remember when someone told Fubuki, asking about how does she feels that Gura reached 1 mil subs before her.
it's all gradually spiraling out of control. this place is becoming worse and worse.
you shouldn't be here, anon.
well, at least you can go to their own general thread to get more meaningful discussions.

>>19037658
Americans are beyond fucked in the head bro, it's difficult to imagine for normal people. I'd never call the police or testify against any family member, especially not close family like parents and siblings.

>>19032830
The girls are a family and that family disowned Rushia because she is a backstabber. Simple as.

>>19038736
Wish I was your family, bro. Would rob your ass on the monthly.

>>19032830
Rushiabros, we got too cocky...

>>19037658
Yeah I'd much rather let my family members run around and fuck up the rest of the family like whatever happens in the third world country you belong to

>>19038787
I'd beat your ass faggot you'd be the one calling the police

>>19038063
Flare was doxxed by Rushia in her convo with korekore, yesterday Flare was sexually harrassed and (according to people in 5ch who follow Flare much more htan me) it's possible she might have been raped. Though exactly what "rape" means to the Japs is debatable. Maybe it was just some faggot taking pics of her upskirt. Hopefully Flare can move on but if she has to go to a psychologist maybe it's serious.

>>19037246
Based, Tenma got his revenge

>>19038858
You wouldn't do shit. We're family, after all.

>>19038813
This doesn't happen because average person here isn't deranged

>>19037286
Too bad for you, the Stars will continue existing because there aren't any women doing women things and causing yabs for the branch.

>>19038909
I will, it's just that the police won't get involved

>>19038964
Three of the Stars have already graduated, dude.

Imagine being a highly succesful internet celebrity, beloved by everyone, being a part of this community that millions of girls could only dream of getting into, having countless people who love you and support you and draw cute fanart of you, and then one day all of a sudden you lose everything and have your life ruined because some retard sent you a highly misinterpretable DM at the wrong time.

I won't pretend to be le cynical apathetic edgelord so that you fags will call me "based", I genuinely feel bad for Rushia. She didn't deserve this.

>>19038999
And the branch is still here. If it was going to dissapear it would have been gone in 2020. Let's be honest it shouldn't have survived to 2020 given the odds. The boys are fine now.

>>19033601
I'd sooner stop watching vtubers altogether

>>19038999
>One quit because of low numbers and tech issues
>One quit because of health issues
>Only one is gone because of Beyblades
Still, not much in terms of actual yabs

>>19039126
I'm pragmatic enough to believe she's just dumb and emotionally unstable, but not malicious or at least not as much as some would like to believe. Sucks to be her, she unironically should've taken her meds.

>>19035531
Helping her???
Specially marine considering she's the most devastated because she was the closest to her

>>19033601
>NijisanjiEN

>>19039126
>[...] you lose everything and have your life ruined because you're too retarded to keep your personal contacts out of your work account AND too retarded to set up OBS properly so notifications don't leak into the stream, despite having done this for two and a half years
Fixed that for you.

>>19039126
I feel bad for her. I also will call her a retard since this was mainly her fault. Heck, I'm already giving her benefit of the doubt, because we don't know what kind of information / misinformation she leaked. Holo members clearly don't seem amused by them.
If she did that intentionally, good riddance.
Otherwise, see the first part of this post

>>19039126
>all of a sudden you lose everything and have your life ruined because some retard sent you a highly misinterpretable DM at the wrong time.

if she had not been a retard and had instead kept her downs syndrome mouth shut while cover did their thing, then returned after a month she would have been fine. She quite literally did this to herself.

>>19039439
>too retarded to set up OBS properly so notifications don't leak into the stream
Chat was telling her about that earlier too, but she either ignored them or didn't notice. For a GFE VTuber, one hell of a time to skip on reading chat...

What we know for sure:
1. Rushia was raking in millions of dollars for Cover. Not pure profit obviously but I’d say around 10% of their income comes through Rushia in some way, based on superchats, merch, viewership, etc. Shes not the face of the company but she’s a huge earner.
2. The discord debacle did not cause serious blowback on Hololive as a company and its other talents. Views, merch sales, superchats were all unaffected.

From just these two points I think the most logical series of events would have been Rushia returning after a break and doing an apology stream. The whole thing would blow over. Shitposting on /vt/ aside, it’s a speed bump.

I can only imagine Cover firing her, and doing it in such a brutal way, was because she actually did leak serious information about the company and/or other talents. The other chuubas know this and thus their ambivalence about mourning Rushia overtly or defending her.

The idea that Cover is threatening the talents with firing to hold their tongue doesn’t hold much water. Big corporate vtubers that leave their company make less but still tons of money: see Kson and new-Lulu. Maybe even more when accounting for the corp’s cut.

Cover did mess up though about not putting it in writing that this wasn’t about mafumafu. People will be arguing for years that Yagoo cut her head off with a katana because she talked to a male.

Family can still fuck up and you can still disown them. Like finding out your brother got into hard drugs or your sister is a prostitute.

>>19038882
well, at least in her twitter she is still posting normally, so i guess she wasn't raped

>>19039439
>>19039498
>>19039517
Hindsight is 2020. It's easy to make perfectly sound and rational decisions and call others retarded when you're an anonymous man posting on 4chan instead of a famous woman in a highly controversial situation with hundreds of thousands of people criticizing you or spreading false information. Try putting yourself in her shoes. Rushia is not some autistic high IQ cold and calculating genius, she's just some clueless girl caught up in a storm and freaking out with no idea how to save herself.

Coco - Sonny
Rushia - Fredo
Fubuki - Michael

>>19039737
Yup, my family beat my ass and I came out fine

>>19032830
Anon, that was shattered a loooong time ago.
Never forgive.
Never forget.
Fuck the people posting art of Rushia with Coco and Aloe. There's only one true heroine she should be standing with.

>>19039700
>Cover did mess up though about not putting it in writing that this wasn’t about mafumafu.
Their first statement was pretty clear about that already, but yeah, it wouldn't have hurt to reinforce it.

>>19039879
Yeah. Really her failure was in not scrubbing the dms and not fixing discord. Two otherwise minor tech mistakes caused her to lose her job in a shitty situation

>>19032830
Only for Schizos on the chans and farms. The real fans aren't bothered one bit because they know Rushia backstabbed and betrayed them all.

>>19039879
I'm surprised she didn't reach out to the other vtubers or even management on how to handle the situation. They probably would have offered some good advice that doesn't involve leaking sensitive information to Japanese Keemstar.

>>19039879
if you have money like she did you should be seeking professionals on how to deal with this shit is instead of relying on scam artists claiming to be your friends trying to profit off of your drama.
Not expecting her to be a Luthor, she didn't need to, she could've paid someone qualified, or asked cover, to make the decisions for her

>>19039439
Wasn't the discord notification a glitch from discord itself?

>>19036167
This.

>>19036271
Kill yourself, retard.

>>19039126
Highly agree

>>19038882
This is peak schizo

>>19033063
She's allowed to date an alien manlet.
She's NOT allowed to give manger info to a rando.

>>19039879
Okay I put myself in her shoes, I would call my manager, and if they didn't answer then I would call whatever other connections I had in the company, then I would sob to them on the phone and ask how to fix the situation. The idea of reaching out to drama youtubers is completely insane.

>>19040134
>I'm surprised she didn't reach out to the other vtubers or even management on how to handle the situation
That's the thing.
That's. the. fucking. thing.
After all these shits, Cover doesn't even consider to hire someone who knows how the internet and the world works, so that they can tell the girls the do and don'ts.
They hired amateur nnd streamers ffs.

Where can I see all the reactions? Can anyone link me? People are saying flare in particular was a bitch?

Niji is too big for people to give a shit about graduations besides whoever they've befriended. Someone dropping off the radar one day is nothing but a blip to the ones who never spoke to them, just another employee who stepped down.

Holo just is small enough for them to know each other, and the lack of sympathy from holos towards rushia is truly telling of just how awful she fucked up.

Everything is a company in the end.

>>19033531
Cuck

>>19034887
To this day I'm still mad about Shartia playing both sides thinking that people wouldn't find out.

>>19040649
Small
Indie
Company
Please andastnd

>>19040650
Everyone is not just flare. It’s awful

>>19032830
>Now the same is happening to Rushia and no one seems sad
Because they aren't. Rushia ruined her relationships not just with cover but with her coworkers and friends. At some point people get fed up with being around someone who constantly has issues.

>>19040649
>so that they can tell the girls the do and don'ts.
But they told Rushia to not talk about it, and she did anyways. Literally in her mid-stream chat with korekore she ended up saying she can't say more without talking to a lawyer so she KNEW that even legally she shouldn't be talking about that shit, yet she was.

>>19035033
Must be an absolute retard if you think that corporate is your family and work is your home.
Sure we're professional with each other; my time for your money.
But my boss and coworkers are not going to cry with me when my dog dies.

>>19037772
pulled up holodex with him on the screen and she freaked the fuck out like a menhera, which is even more ironic now considering the mafu thing. Even chat thought she was overreacting

>>19036817
That's just something anyone can say.
I'm not the same anon, and I have nothing against Fubuki.
Just saying that those words don't mean anything by themselves.

>>19040898
That kore dude must be a shit friend if he's willing to tank someone's entire career in order to bolster his own.

He should have told Rushia no you dumb bitch this is career-ruining for you just chill for a couple weeks.

>>19041181
>He should have told Rushia no you dumb bitch this is career-ruining for you just chill for a couple weeks
That's why he's not a good friend.
Sometimes you got to learn who to trust the hard way and she learned in the hardest way. There's no one to blame here but herself.

>>19040650
I'd assume people are referring to this one. Pekora says all holomembers have been told not to talk about the situation but 3rd gen got the OK since it's a genmate.
https://youtu.be/ppOu2U4SByQ

I don't think Flare was being a bitch. After watching her holotalk with Kiara I think Flare is just very blunt.

>>19041181
He's done it to her before and she keeps going back to him. I wouldn't be surprised if she's still talking to him to get out more information because she's mad at Cover now even though he completely ridiculed her just the other day.

>>19041181
He literally made someone say “i love mafumafu dick” the other day

>>19039126
>>19039287
Exactly this. Rushia has always been straight up dumb. Not even joking, watching her stream or even clips make it obvious she's not the brightest.
On top of it, she's mentally unstable and really dependent on her own fanbase, so when things went to hell she really was not qualified to deal with it.
Put an unstable retard in a bad situation and she will definitely fuck up.
Rushia really didn't do anything wrong, she just made a bunch of dumb mistakes one after another.

>>19040898
>But they told Rushia to not talk about it
Didn't look like it. It feels more like... it was a holiday or some shits, and probably the staffs only said to her "wait until work days, it will be discussed" with no follow-ups, then she panicked, especially because it was a few days before valentine.
Cover's reaction is always late when it come to these incidents, and they somehow fucks up the PR later on.
"We don't interfere with the talents' private life" is bad as the 1st statement.
Just say that there were technical difficulties that led to things that were not supposed to be shown on stream appeared, and they will investigate it.
Also, just provide her with a little bit of emotional support, tell here to breathe and calm down.
There, done.

How 1 discord conversation lead to the loss of a whole damn career

>>19033601
based masonposter giving holofags the truth they need but don't deserve

>>19041474
Breaking NDA is doing something wrong. It's her fault and her being stupid is not an excuse.

All human interactions are transactional.
Rushia became worthless, so she was discarded.
You will be thrown away too unless you keep being useful.
Family, friendship, and love were never real, just chemicals in your brain. There is no god and you are alone.

What you do with this truth is up to you.

>>19041776
You are a flesh automaton actuated by neurotransmitters.

>>19033063
Putting your co-workers in risks by leaking confidential information to Japanese Keemstar just to clean your name in a scandal.

Oh geez I wonder why the holomen are so cold.

>>19041776
The others are obviously sad, but they also understood that what she did was a pretty big deal. Cover is being very lenient by just firing her.

>>19041515
>Didn't look like it. It feels more like... it was a holiday or some shits, and probably the staffs only said to her "wait until work days, it will be discussed" with no follow-ups, then she panicked, especially because it was a few days before valentine.
Then why didn't she just tweet on her own just like mafumafu did? If you think she wasn't given any kind of instructions or orders then she could have just done that.
Going to korekore as the first fucking choice for damage control is not justifiable.
Cover's reaction was entirely based on her fucking everything up and revealing that she had been leaking more information over a long period of time.

>>19041934
She leaked her info and messages with her manager .
Why are people still saying about other Holos info? Any source of that?

>>19042064
>revealing that she had been leaking more information over a long period of time.
Source on that

>>19032830
>Now the same is happening to Rushia and no one seems sad, no one cried
speaks volumes of her fuckup

>>19042168
>Regarding “Uruha Rushia,” it has been apparent for some time that she has been distributing false
information to third parties and has been leaking information, including communications regarding
business matters.
>FOR SOME TIME

>>19042106
>She also shared a bunch of company emails
Maybe you should read and think more anon

>>19042168
Did you not read the notices?

>>19033873
I don't even watch Nijisanji, kek.

>>19042465
I don't even watch Hololive. I just like to feel like I belong.

>>19042106
Nobody knows the extent of what she leaked, or even if the stuff she leaked to korekore is the only instance of NDA infringement.

>>19041704
>"B-but the law!"
Sounds like faggot-speech to me
Doing something wrong is doing something bad, harming others. Breaking an NDA is just illegal.
She didn't do a bad deed, she broke a contract cause she's retarded. If you really think bad people go to jail and good people don't, then I don't know what to tell you.

>>19042064
holy fucking shit!!!
reading reps!!!
>But they told Rushia to not talk about it
>wait until work days
>she's panicking
>few days before valentine
>late and bad PR

I don't know about mafu. maybe he has a good and responsive manager.
or he's not in any company and more calm to deal with shit like this.

>>19042262
>FOR SOME TIME
It could mean that several days the shitshow happened.

>>19042754
When has "for some time" ever mean "last few days"?

"Yeah, I've been practicing for piano for some time". Do you believe that sentence means they just started practicing?

>>19042754
The fuck are you on about, ape? None of that shit makes her decision to go to korekore as her FIRST FUCKING CHOICE acceptable. She didn't even TWEET ANYTHING.
I'm supposed to believe that she wanted to clear shit up for her fans yet she didn't even choose to talk to them? Bullshit.

>>19043006
She can’t clear things up without getting into legal trouble you fuck

>>19035033
Unless his second wife was your wife I don't see how most of this affects you

>>19043119
There's no legal trouble in tweeting that what showed up on her stream was a DM from her friend she plays games with, dumb fuck.

>>19032830
All of this is the fault of being corpo and all the hassle of big corpo rules. Everything was way easier when YouTubers were just a bunch of random independent users who only collabed with other channels if they wanted to or felt it'd be nice, like the good old YouTube days. Hololive and other big corpo VTubers were always company-driven, they're all just marketed corporate constructs instead of something organic and community-driven.

>>19032830
Hololive's "family" image always was prefabricated bullshit that they just used for nothing more than fame and money. If you want vtubers that act like actual good friends with each other watch NijiEN.

>>19043002
NTA, but the Japanese release says 先般, which does in fact mean recently, the other day, etc... and in this case I'd give more credibility to the Japanese statement.

>>19043404
I would watch Nijisanji but
1.- Too many fucking members
2.- 80% of NijiEN are insufferable whores

Ange from JP is nice tho

>>19034859
>She wanted to keep being that pure idol who did GFE
She cared more about fixing her relationship with mfmf than with her fans.

>>19043304
not a corpo anymore, problem solved, leave the corpo life for professionals.

>>19043002
because they translated 先般 to "for some time".
Deepl it yourself.

>>19043006
woman.
was an amateur streamer.
panicking.
no consultant.
no quick and responsive company support.
"we don't interfere with private affairs" sounds similar to dramafags youtube title "she is not single?".

Google the word "panic"

>>19043404
it had to be a nijibeggar, you can keep your sluts brother, got no interest in that.

>>19035084
>Coco clearly departed on good terms
Not even a year and the facts and been obscured beyond recognition. People will sob for 3 days then forget rushia even existed. It's not the girls people care about, it's the brand.

>>19043635
Still no excuse for her to go to the least trustworthy person on the internet over tweeting. She did this to herself.

>>19041181
A drama leech will never stray away from an opportunity to get first dibs on a big topic. Rushia just had to contact him the very next day instead of keeping her fucking mouth shut and letting Cover deal with the PR. If she kept her fucking mouth shut, she would still be making 7 figures without sexualizing or having to show her face.

>>19040790
What was Artia and the others doing?

>>19034740
Surely, Cover has never lied or anything. Cover is a gud boi. They dindu nuffin.

>>19042754
Rushia went to korekore the day after the shit happened. Instead of keeping still, she went to the worst possible person in an attempt to clear the air. She could've at least gone to mafumafu and let him explain everything including her side of the story, but she went to that fat drama cunt.

>>19043881
So why do you think they'd fire their cash cow and refund all pending merch sales?

>>19043585
>>19043662
>doesn't deny anything stated in the post
Heh, easy victory.

>>19043920
I hear rumors that Rushia and kore are friends even before she joined Hololive, but based on what he did to her I feel like this is one of those abusive friendships.

>>19043926
Because they're evil and wanted to make her suffer. That's their ultimate goal; to graduate all the holos.

>>19044022
Take your meds, schizo.

>>19043975
He’s sick cunt, he made fun of her mafumafu situation the other day

>>19043975
Only if you believe that Rushia is a genuine angel, you know mean people can befriend each other right? And I’m trying to be reasonable here because there’s enough evidence to sus Rushia true personality. The alien dude is unknown to us to judge.

>>19044046
Rushia really doesn't know how to pick them. At least there might be some ex-Yakuza member fandead willing to track down korekore.

I think Rushia was the one that shattered it but believe whatever helps you cope fandead.

>>19044133
>Schizo brain working hard

>>19043975
Anon she went ask advices to both Narukami and Korekore. The 2 japanese keemstars... Either she's executing a mastermind plan or she's retarded beyond belief.

>>19043926
Because like with Coco there were people at Cover that hated her. The cold responses from Cover and the holomem says a lot.

>>19034821
No, arrest.

>>19043714
still no excuse for cover to hire reliable supports for the talents.

Chris happened.
"Nah, who needs background check."
Aloe Happened...

Aqua 'Bubble Tea/Tapioca from Taiwan'
"Nah"
Choco 'Tibet'
"Meh"
Haachama and Coco happened...

Suzaku left. One of the reasons is because of lack of tech supports.
Sometimes some holos still don't know what they're doing...

Seriously. Starts hiring people who know these stuffs, Cover.

>>19043976
Why would I whiteknight over a company?
Like heck, I wish Nijisanji was watchable so I don't have to put up with so many autistic Holofans doing stupid shit.
Since that's not the case, we're stuck like this.

>>19044301
Doesn't she have some kind of Condition with her brain?

>>19043975
Yeah they were friends for years and streamed and played games together since 2012. She even sent a pic to his bikini contest which was then stolen by some call girl site and he helped her have it get taken down.
He sent his fans to shit up her stream cheat one time for tweeting a pic where she stepped on a dead cicada. She still trusted him after that and went to him to expose an abusive ex-boyfriend in 2018
There's more proof that they were in contact recently because he cut out the part of the stream where she showed up to expose her ex sometime in 2021. I remember watching that stream myself when the big drama about that ex came out about a year ago and her part was still there.

>>19044325
So? She's the #1 superchat in the world. Doesn't matter how much you hate them. If they bring in that fat dosh, then the company will keep them around.

The cold responses indicate that Rushia fucked up, not Cover.

>>19044301
Retarded is definitely it.
Rushia is dumb and easily manipulated.
She's the very, very dumb victim of this story.

>>19044325
Yes anon they are refunding half a million dollars and who knows how much it'd cost to redo all the marketing for holofes just because people don't like her

>>19039126
If only she never let mfmf coming close

>>19042539
Then why people everywhere says that she leaked info of her coworkers?

>>19044637
Because someone on Japanese 4chan claimed that's what happened. It's just rumors all the way down.

>>19044469
It's not a mental defect even if people meme it to be one. It's to do with blood flow to the brain meaning she gets dizzy and can't exert her body too much

>>19044469
Yes. She got diagnosed with a severe case of menhera.

>>19044556
Even more depressing if her doxxing her colleagues is actually true. Granted everything is just surface level speculation but this termination just feels so cold. When Aloe graduated under less than favorable terms (mid-suspension), her genmates were allowed to post their opinions and support. When CN was forced to graduate, it was likely due to politics and toxic antis that allowed even Artia to get a proper ending to her HL career.

Rushia though? Fuckin unpersoned

>>19043304
Did you see how most indies chuubas are ? There's nothing less organic than that

>>19044729
>menhera deez nuts

>>19044637
You're on /vt/, it's a rrat, tourist. You should doubt everything you read here

>>19034698
>Papa diddled me when I was six but it's okay because he's still papa

>>19032830
Rushia was never close to anyone.

>>19044637
Do you also believe miko raped pekora?

>>19044963
Are there people who don't believe the elite didn't rape every holomember at least once?

>>19044578
>>19044535
The cold treatment is an indication that Cover and the members never liked her. It doesn't matter how much money she brought they hated her and wanted her gone.

And I'm going to stick with that because of all the evidence of what Cover has done in the past.

>>19038063
It's not real. Read the first sentence a bit more closely.

>>19045129
Corporations rarely will throw away money just because they don't like someone. You're telling me that Cover is different from other corporations and is willing to just throw money away because they have a personal beef with one of their employees?

>>19044409
They hired but graduated first

>>19045198
Yes, otherwise Cover wouldn't have thrown Coco under the bus.

>>19044963
Yes, obviously low iq’er

>>19044938
Marine

>>19044938
Coco chan...

>>19045166
> Flare's flash

Wtf suppose to mean?

>>19045246
They didn't? She left on her own terms and was allowed to have a graduation stream and all that.

>>19045385
>Cover pressuring her to "graduate"

>Cover losing a lot of money
>losing subs and reputations
>muh evil corpo
holy kek

>>19045476
So why not give Rushia the same amicable treatment? Less PR nightmare and all that shit.

>>19044938
Cocochan Kanachan

I need suffering kino pics.

>>19045509
> This doesn't know Rushia lack collab and sponsor stream for a while

They're hiding the truth.
There's more to this story.
Stay tuned.

>>19045618
Was Hololive hiding state secrets or something?

>>19045509
Because this incident gave Cover a "viable excuse".

Cover can't just say they fired Rushia because they hate her. Oh no, they had to find a "reasonable excuse". An excuse, that "made sense".

>>19045704
> their's gachikois are multi millionares and famous politicians.

It actually true in some degree

>>19045589
The fuck is THIS narrative? She did tons of collabs just recently

>>19035084
Kiara is up there in number of hours streamed. Most hours streamed in EN. Of course she still works for cover, she's the only EN that's actually WORKING and not slacking off like a bunch of lazy Amerimutts.

>>19045618
I'm sure by "helping" they were giving Rushia some normie responses. Nothing but air and platitudes.

>>19045763
I think they decided terminate Rushia because she talked with Narukami more than her manager.

>Kore is 10 years friend , it understandable if she trust him.
> but talking to Narukami is fucking retard.

>>19039126
The whole situation is fucked, yes.
Mafumafu for sending a personal DM via a corporate channel, korekore for being a clout-chasing drama faggot, Rushia for being an IRL menhera. And finally, Holopro for being a garbage company that takes half of their talent's earnings after Susan's cut and yet utterly fails to properly manage their biggest cash cows.

>>19045509
>Announcement said point blank Rushia leaked confidential info, spread false rumors and lied to the company
Gee I wonder why they're not rolling out the carpets for her

>>19045763
Why do you go through such mental gymnastics, when the most obvious and plausible answer is that a dumb girl was stressed out and did a dumb thing?

>>19034740
I'm sick and tired of you niggers sucking Yagoo's dick and lashing out at anyone who even questions if we can trust Cover about anything.

>>19046028
If that is the case, that only tells me how bad of a job her manager did, and we all know how incompetent Cover is.

>>19045908
> with the same persons like Marien, Calli , Kanata

> She did not come to Tatsumachi stream or stream tatsumachi stream long time ago because she know they hate her

>>19045219
try to say that again, but in english.

>>19046161
Oh it's you, the bumbling retarded monkey.

>>19046107
Because I'm not a bootlicker. Corporations are to never be trusted and whatever they say must be met with skepticism.

>>19039700
>People will be arguing for years that Yagoo cut her head off with a katana because she talked to a male.
Yeah, Korekore. No one's talking about mafumafu, everyone's laughing at Rushia because her termination over NDA violations only boosts that drama youtuber's notoriety.

>>19046130
They should act faster than this in crisis time not
> ummm Holiday , let talk in Monday

>>19046229
I can't tell if you're just being a contrarian or are some kind of conspiracy nut job. Rushia has shown time and time again on her roommates twitter that she is prone to making dumb and emotional decisions. Does is mean Cover is competent? Fuck no, but just going Cover bad, Rushia can't possibly have done something wrong is just as stupid.

>>19045908
Look around, you're in a schizo anti thread.
They're just randomly flinging shit and hoping some of it sticks.
Its peak /vt/ entertainment

>people really wanna die on that hill with this family crap that r*ddit was peddling

Michael Neko is a very cute

hololive was always a trash, i never understand why they got popular. everyone who thinks hololive has the best friendship of all vtubers have never had a real friend, poor niggers.

ppl needs to watch VSPO, millie-enna to know what a real friendship looks like. open your eyes retards

>>19046459
Cover has shown constantly that they're incompetent and some cases malicious.

Rushia on the other hand I can't believe that she did anything with malicious intent and Cover treating her like she is Satan/Voltomore is giving me doubts.

>>19046868
Kiryu Coco was mastermind and shadow director of Hololive before TW happen

>>19046951
link to good millie-enna friendship is please, i need to know what it looks like

>>19046951
>Be this obvious
Seaniggers really lower the bar huh

>>19046983
It doesn't have to be malicious for it to be grounds to a contract termination. The worst thing anybody from Cover has said about Rushia is a line in the statement saying that they lost trust in her, which is perfectly reasonable. Aside from that reactions have ranged from sympathetic to professionally neutral.

>>19047811
I doubt that since the cold responses says otherwise. Cover just finally found an "excuse" to get rid of Rushia.

>>19047994
Coping cuckdead in mad denial

>>19048060
I don't trust Cover and if you take what they said at face value then you are lost and a bootlicker.

>>19047994
I'm curious why you think the people who actually interact with her personally and professionally hating her enough to not want to deal with her makes your simping more justified

>Entire thread just spamming the same schizo talking points over and over
I hope your not doing it for free

>>19048390
Cover doesn't have a good track record and makes sense to doubt them.

>>19048895
And all of the talents?

>>19049141
You mean the cold responses from them?

>>19049195
I mean you think talents being cold towards her says more about them than it does about Rushia?

>>19049251
The only one that showed any actual reaction to Rushia was Marine.

>>19049410
That's not an answer to my question.

>>19049251
It says more about the overall relationship people had with Rushia.

>>19049515
I don't victim blame, because I believe in innocent until proven guilty.

>>19049689
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