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What is /asp/?

A thread for aspiring vtubers! Whether your goal is to make the journey as an independent streamer or to gain experience and build a portfolio for agency auditions. Let's help each other grow and make it. Indies are welcome to selfpost, but shill responsibly. Share your knowledge, insights, feedback, discuss what has worked and what hasn't worked for you. And always remember to do your research before posting personally identifying information. That includes both in this thread and in your audition applications to agencies.

FAQ:
>Do I need a fully rigged model to be a vtuber?
Nope! You can get started as a simple .png character!

>I want to learn how to rig Live2D models, where do I go?
Brian Tsui (of Iron Vertex), Kira Omori and the official Live2D YouTube channels have many tutorials available.

>Where can I find artists/riggers?
vtuber.gg, ArtStation, DeviantArt, Twitter, Reddit, Skeb.jp, etc.

>I just want to get started, can I buy pre-made models?
Yes! Live2D models can be purchased off nizima.com (Live2D's official marketplace) or booth.pm (general Japanese indie artist website). Be sure to check compatibility with your facial tracking software!

>Where can I learn how to digital market myself?
https://learndigital.withgoogle.com/digitalgarage

>Where can I find some good games to stream?
https://twitchtracker.com/games
https://sullygnome.com/

>Twitch or YouTube?
The general rule of thumb is Twitch if your content is primarily based on livestreaming and YouTube if your content is primarily pre-recorded and edited.

>Do you think there's an audience for X, Y, Z content?
First, ask yourself if you would watch a streamer of your skill and experience. Second, do a check on social media and look to see if other streamers are already creating similar content. Don't limit yourself to vtubers, include traditional real life streamers to scope out a potential audience.

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Stay grounded, stay hopeful.
Start tweeting.

Last Thread: >>18881736

>> No.18936341

Listening to Vox to get a general idea how to talk.
His voice is smooth and he is able to keep talking about random stuff viewers talk, but I don't see anything special about him.
I suppose his popularity sort of snowballed.

>> No.18936429

>>18936341
If you're not a girl you can't understand. I've been reading shoujo manga the past month and I barely understand.

>to get a general idea how to talk
Me too but I was born with a shit voice.

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18936577

It took this long without Anya poster, huh?

>> No.18936583

How do you balance online marketing (getting people to see you) and staying in character? Is there even a balance or are you supposed to make your lore then ignore it? I don't get it, guys...

>> No.18936606

To what degree should someone play a character as a vtuber? Should the vtuber be a very slight veil that the streamer only identifies by, or should they make a unique personality to play out for streams?

>> No.18936709

>>18936606
that all depends on your acting ability and personal choice. I wanna play up some things to be more interesting but mostly keep it real. You can play a full on character if you have the skill and energy to do it. There's not right or wrong answer here

>> No.18936714

>>18936583
>and staying in character?
it's simple. you don't.
>Is there even a balance or are you supposed to make your lore then ignore it?
you don't make lore. simple as.

unless you're selling a book or peddling a movie no one cares about your lore. the majority of people online have tiny and short attention spans so you need to catch their attention within the first 4-6 seconds of exposure to your content. no one cares about your lore and backstory in those 4-6 seconds.

>>18936606
>To what degree should someone play a character as a vtuber?
ideally none.

>> No.18936716

>>18936583
Depends what your priorities are. If you're looking for massive views and money my opinion is you're shit out of luck especially if you're a male. My lore is just my own actual shit, which might be a problem if you're actually a Jane Doe. Long story short, it's a matter of skill and social engineering. Again just my opinion.

>>18936606
Do you want to be Gura or Pekora/Marine?

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18936768

Do you jerk off to your own avatar?

>> No.18936774

>>18936577
it's usually just me and Anyaposter making the threads and I'm usually busy at work so I can only make new threads when I get a break, gomen

>> No.18936790

>>18936768
I would if someone drew porn of her

>> No.18936846

>>18936774
If you two do want /asp/ to be up back to back I can help if I see it. Last thread was pretty fun.

>>18936790
Post references

>> No.18936866

>>18936716
I don't watch the latter two, since I don't speak Japanese. So I have no idea.

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>>18936866

>> No.18936976
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>>18936768
I'm still in disbelief that I fapped to fast-talking anon last thread.

>> No.18937036

Are we still being raided by that babi and his Discord? What the hell is going in this thread already?

>> No.18937055

>>18936976
I don't think I've ever listened to a single vocaroo by an anon here. I expect massive fuckin' cringe whenever I see one. But now you've got me curious.
Which post was the fast-talking anon?

>> No.18937116

>>18937055
>18925259
>18928614

>> No.18937185

>>18936976
Im glad you enjoyed my voice. I plan to talk even faster in streams so no one can understand a word I said

>> No.18937314

>>18937185
p-please link

>> No.18937319

>>18936976
It's ok I saved the vocaroo so I can do it again tomorrow.

>> No.18937376

>>18937185
What is that accent? I can't tell if it's British or British Lite.
I ain't fappin', but you have a nice ass voice. Got that going for you.

>> No.18937386

>>18936716
I'm a numberfag but I was also an actor and have a huge respect for the industry so I want to keep character as much as possible. But keeping in character then putting 5 hashtags at the end of my post because I'm not a corpo just seems cringe.

>> No.18937405

>>18937319
Make sure you save both.

>> No.18937418

Wanted to try streaming today just to see if shit actually worked and found out you can't stream on youtube if you don't dox them your phone number.
If I do it on my main (non-vtuber) channel, will it enable it for the others?

>> No.18937421

>>18937036
Looks like it.

>> No.18937461

>>18937418
bro it's google. do you know how big the shitshow will be if they leaked or spammed your phone #? take your meds, anon.

>> No.18937504

>>18937418
>>18937461
Plus it's Google. They no doubt have your phone number already, as well as the entirety of your genetic sequence most likely.

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>>18937036
>>18937421
Better get used to it.

>> No.18937521

>>18937314
I got you. One was recorded on my shit laptop and the other I used my phone. Both the the lapel mic
https://voca.ro/1dndRdjFcTaH
https://voca.ro/1kIa5kNhCb3b
>>18937376
Im English. Full on good save the queen but I play it down a tad for the recordings.

>> No.18937574

>>18937521
Your stream, baka! (when it exists)

>> No.18937575

>>18937521
Respect. I have a few English friends and they are the chillest fucks imaginable. Probably because they're not from Manchester.
If you start streaming, let us know. You have a nice voice that I'd enjoy listening to. Any idea what games you're going to be playing when you start?

>> No.18937579

>>18936583
lore is a meme and if you really want lore, it should only exist to contextualize your design and set up consistent themes for your presentation but no more than that
not really sure what you mean by marketing but if you just mean making an effort to tell people about yourself, avoid lore focus because nobody is going to care about it as much as they'd care about your personality
>>18936606
depends on what you want to do with your content, but staying in character when its different to your real self takes a lot of work and experience to do successfully
>>18936768
fuck no

>> No.18937580

>>18937185
>I plan to talk even faster in streams
neat

>> No.18937630

>>18937461
Thanks for answering completely off tracks.

>> No.18937686

>>18937520
Glad to see you and your discord are intention on making this thread more useless than it's been these last months. Thanks for finally giving me the last push to leave this shithole. Keep it up.

>> No.18937774

>>18937686
See you tomorrow.

>> No.18937797

Steam is such a privacy black hole it's not even funny. I guess the only option is to rebuy any games I want to replay on stream.

>> No.18937798

>>18937574
I hope it will be soon. Im hopefully getting a new pc after I get my new desk in. Im extremely existed and this has just given me so much confidence
>>18937575
Most people I know are pretty down to earth but I have meat some insane people. I plan on playing a large batch but I would love to do RPG maker games. That just sounds really fun looking for new interesting storys or ones that are dogshit.

>> No.18937830

>>18937798
ngl, I took a shower and made myself a meal and took my meds after interacting with you last thread. Thanks.

>> No.18937902

>>18937798
Not really my taste. I really dislike RPG Maker games. But at bare minimum, I can throw your stream up to listen to in the background while I work on personal projects.
Hopefully you get your stream setup soon. Thank you for blessing us with your Britbongistan accent.

>> No.18937945

>>18937797
Use family mode to share games from your normal account with your vtuber account.

>> No.18937958

>>18937579
>lore is a meme and if you really want lore, it should only exist to contextualize your design and set up consistent themes for your presentation
Very good post, thank you. But what do you mean by consistent themes? Types of games played?

>> No.18938049

>>18937945
It shows who's sharing them with you right on the game info section, and if for whatever reason someday sometime you stream full desktop view and forget about that your real profile is exposed.

>> No.18938107

>>18937958
If I'm going to do an event or something, I could name it something related to my lore or something, I guess.

>> No.18938127

>>18937830
Im glad I could give you some motivation for some self care.
>>18937902
ha. Its not the only thing I plan on playing as I would love to play lots of other things. I will take viewer suggestions as well

>> No.18938151

>>18938049
Just say it's your roommate.

>> No.18938165

>>18938049
Fuck. I wanted to do it this way.
I guess you'll have to cope with smartsteamemu then. I've used it myself it works fine over a network, the catch is that anyone using a legit account has to be connected to the same VPN as you to play with you. And of course it doesn't work with games that have their own authentication process.

>> No.18938692

is doing hentai doujin reviews cringe?

>> No.18938712

>>18938692
No it's based.

>> No.18938754

>>18938692
Depends on your voice, what you say, and how you present it.

>> No.18938763

>>18937521
The second one sounds a lot like Kiki.

>> No.18938910

>>18938754
i would like to present it in a serious but still funny manner. I have been told i am good at recommending hentai doujins and since i also draw i can appreciate the finer details. The only problem would be where to post the reviews. Also, i am female(female) so i guess that helps.

>> No.18938951

>>18936429
I'm not even going for womanizer trope because I'm too spergy and seems kinda dishonest.
Anyway, how do I determine how my voice sounds without posting it here? I mean I can record myself, but is there some sort of benchmark/examples to compare?

>> No.18939093

>>18938910
If you're capable of cracking jokes while giving a genuine art breakdown, that'd work really well. There's something inherently funny and engaging about being super analytic about the artistic details of something you're solely meant to beat your dick too.
Plus you're a woman, so you're less likely to come off as creepy. Although expect creepy guys to show up.

>> No.18939123

>>18938692
One of my favourite youtubers of all time was an Indian dude who reviewed and rated new monthly hentai. Super kino but youtube purged that guy back in '15/16. If you really plan to do it please shill.

>> No.18939145

>>18939093
>Plus you're a woman, so you're less likely to come off as creepy. Although expect creepy guys to show up.
you have to deal with those anyway, it's part of being a female online

>> No.18939190

>>18939145
Absolutely, but when you're a woman talking about porn, it's likely to get way, way worse.

>> No.18939261

>>18938910
>Female(female) reviewing doujins
Jesus fucking christ your jannies will be working overtime if you go through with this.
Poor fuckers.

>> No.18939300

>>18939190
yeah it makes people feel like your comfortable with everything. When otherwise they would hold off.

>> No.18939365

>>18939123
that sounds kino
>>18939093
>There's something inherently funny and engaging about being super analytic about the artistic details of something you're solely meant to beat your dick too.
Japanese artists are the only porn makers that can make you look in-depth in their porn, there are a lot of super interesting gems outside of the typical ''brother finds her sister naked and shenanigans ensue'' doujin. On the top of my head i can think about that k-on doujin that was a super dark look into the music industry that's genuinely well-written and that loli artist,Minori Kenkyuujo, that tackles niche fetishes where the characters most of the time never get naked.
>>18939190
>>18939261
i don't plan on doing it on-stream, i would like to make it like video reviews. So, if anyone know where i could post it that would be helpful.

>> No.18939428

>>18939365
smells like great patreon bait. You could post censored ones on YouTube and then post uncensored under the paywall. Not sure were to host it for free though

>> No.18939462

>>18938763
Really? I dont think I sound anything like her

>> No.18939509

>>18938951
>without posting it here
You can't, suck up and post it, you're literally anonymous.

>> No.18939549

>>18939428
>smells like great patreon bait
was thinking about patreon, but they are very annoying with animu i had a friend that drew aged-up naruto porn and he got banned off Patreon. I would have to check fanbox, i think they allow video content.

>> No.18939556

>>18939462
The first one doesn't but the second one does. I'm not great at distinguishing English vs Australian though.

>> No.18939582

>>18939093
>>18938910
>>18938692
The biggest problem is going to be where to stream it without getting insta-banned.

>> No.18939608

>>18939549
yeah I forget they do that. They are really weird about it. Dojins get a lot worse aged up Naruto so I think they would hate it

>> No.18939693

>>18939608
i want to talk about loli/shota too, i don't even uoooh to lolis that much but damn, they have the best artists.

>> No.18939746

>>18939582
I may or may not have done this a while back. I got away with it by talking more abstractly about a hentai artist and their works/tropes than diving into specific pornographic images.
Worst case scenario, just upload videos of it to pornhub.

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18939770

No more fooling around.
Start streaming.

>> No.18939777

>>18939746
>Pornhub vtuber
You're really striking gold here, anon. Don't tell us anymore, keep your secrets so nobody can steal them.

>> No.18939813

>>18939770
I've been streaming for over a year now, deadbeat...

>> No.18939819

>>18939770
Sorry boss. It is just too cold to get out of bed today

>> No.18939852

>>18939770
I dont got a nice pc yet! I cant stream unless you want a PowerPoint presentation

>> No.18939866

>>18939770
And get 1 viewer that comes in and leaves without saying anything? No thanks.

>> No.18939879

>>18939770
my model isnt fucking ready, stupid fucking artist

>> No.18939960

>>18939813
Good

>>18939819
Get a sweater

>>18939852
Zatsudan

>>18939866
Link it and you'll get a second one

>>18939879
Use a png.

>> No.18940074

>>18939960
I don't wanna be the guy who shills their 0view stream in /asp/.

>> No.18940084

I have a legit problem with burping some days. I should probably see a doctor but rona has made that hard. Should I just pull away when I need to burp. I dont wanna be known as the vtuber that burps all the time

>> No.18940124

>>18940074
If you can't shill yourself, who will?

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>>18939770
>currently saving for second monitor
>doing my drawing/edition/live2d/photoshop/english reps
being poor indie is suffering

>> No.18940194

>>18940084
Maybe look into a USB foot pedal or similar device that can mute your mic really quickly so you can burp.

>> No.18940289

>>18940124
can you?

>> No.18940401

>>18940289
I only shill people that stream.

>> No.18940426

>>18940194
I'll look into that if it becomes that big of an issue. Sounds like that could help. Or like a stream deck or something

>> No.18940846

>>18940401
No, I'm asking if you can stream right now and shill yourself.

>> No.18942587

>Start vtubing with some friends
>Realize I'm holding myself back because I know my friends might be watching
>Create an alt and run opsecs
>Now I'm maintaining two streams with no viewers

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>> No.18944188

>>18939509
Maybe the other time. First I will look up some voice training guides or something.

>> No.18945238

>>18936768
No but i have a babi version and would if someone drew porn of her

>> No.18945382

>>18942587
Don't trust anyone, not even yourself.
I'm being serious.

>> No.18945523

>>18940182
im right there with you anon.
whats crazier is that when you start to get popular people start to assume you must be making a ton of money, but that isn't the case. i hit 30k subs on yt and im still broke af and do everyone myself. keep working on yourself and mastering your skills, maybe one day you can start doing commissions and start making some extra side money

>> No.18946398

>>18936583
>staying in character
Why would you do this? What benefit is there?

>supposed to make your lore then ignore it
What indies are you watching that are 100% in character all the time? Seriously, I need to know.

>>18936606
>To what degree should someone play a character as a vtuber?
Next to none. Use it to flavor your personality on stream, nothing more.

Seriously, what is this obsession /asp/ies have about "character "and "lore"? What chuubas do you see that are actually playing this shit up so hard that you have to question whether or not you should do it

>> No.18946507

>>18945523
i do commissions, but since my drawing skills are crap i only make like 10 usd per drawing. Thankfully i am only 250 usd short for my new monitor and i should get there in a month or so, i hope i become good enough to offer some nice live2D models as well.

>> No.18946506

>>18937958
>But what do you mean by consistent themes?

nta but i think he means things like "I'm a textbook RPG adventurer chuuba, so my asset theming matches this." and similar things that show your theme without you having to explicitly tell it. If a chuuba is a tacticool one you aren't going to need to ask because there's a good chance their channel themeing and overall assets represent this.

>> No.18946636

>>18940194
Or you know, just make a hotkey for it? You don't need an extra peripheral if you've got a keyboard.

>> No.18946699

>>18946636
If you're using a controller or gaming it would be more convenient and faster to use something else.

>> No.18947556

>>18946699
It would take you a fraction of a second to hit a button on your numpad or mouse to toggle a Push to Mute in order to hide a burp, having an extra peripheral for that is ridiculous. Most chuubas have their emotes on the numpad anyway.

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>>18937797
Did you ever try picture related?

>> No.18948821

>>18946507
anonchanner, how do you shill your commissions? I am good at art but completely stupid at knowing where to put my commission info.

>> No.18949011

>>18940084
You can burp on stream. Brittany does it. If a 10% nigger can gather an army of simps being gross on screen, surely you can as well.

>> No.18949134

>>18937797
Make a folder with steam shortcuts off stream. You can launch all your games without ever showing your library, even on accident.

>> No.18950517

>>18940084
Hic

>> No.18950587

>>18937797
>>18949134
This is what I do even off-stream. If you already have Steam running before you stream there's no chance of getting the popup that shows your account name as you login; you just get the popup that says the name of whatever game you're loading. Just make sure to disable any chat notifications, maybe disable the overlay and sign out of Friends entirely before you go live just to be sure.
Please do not waste your money on rebuying your games, anon.

>> No.18950990

>>18950587
steam needs a streamers mode

>> No.18951062

I have no intention of ever doing vtubing beyond as a hobby, but I'm still terrified of even commissioning a model because I'm terrified of being in 0view hell forever. I don't know how to find & network with other absolute no names on twitter and I'm terrified of ever posting on /wvt/ because a real life friend already posts there and I'm afraid of being doxxed

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you guys think it's safe to chill myself in /wvt/?

>> No.18951180

>>18951062
If they're a vtuber too they'll probably understand they shouldn't tell other irl people

>> No.18951244

>>18951062
>but I'm still terrified of even commissioning a model because I'm terrified of being in 0view hell forever.
you could start with a png

>> No.18951248

>>18950990
True, but you can at least get most of what a streamer mode would offer for now with the methods described in this thread. Or just stop capturing momentarily whenever you need to do stuff in Steam proper

>> No.18951257

>>18951144
yeah

>> No.18951280

>>18951257
i'm kinda scared people harras me but i think i'm going to do it

>> No.18951349

>>18951144
wear a blanket sweaty :^)

>> No.18951390

>>18951062
>no intention of ever doing vtubing beyond as a hobby
> I'm terrified of being in 0view hell forever.
if you approach it like a hobby, you will be in 0view hell. maybe not forever but for months. approaching it like a hobby and growing conflict with each other.

>> No.18951394

>>18951280
you'll be fine as long as you aren't obnoxious about it

>> No.18951397

>>18951349
what does that even mean??

>> No.18951830

>>18951144
Don't do it. there's unironically no viewers there and the few viewers there are unironically don't care.

>> No.18952124

>>18951397
It was a jab at you saying chill instead of shill. There is a running internet joke where people will misspell "sweetie" as "sweaty." I don't really think you're sweaty and was trying to advise you to stay warm and not get chilly. I apologize for any confusion my missive may have caused you.

>> No.18952568

>>18952124
OHHH i see! thank you for explaining that i really don't understand it

>> No.18952740

>>18951180
They aren't, he is one of the few viewers.
>>18951390
I'm fine with playing the twitter metagame (assuming I can figure out how to use it effectively) since it doesn't take too long to write tweets & would be fine streaming 3-4x/week for 2-3 hours, but I'm kinda pressed for time to do much more than that between work & other life responsibilities. I suppose I might be able to force in occasional lunch hour streams since I WFH, but beyond that I just don't have the time.

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>> No.18954398

Have you thanked your model parents today?

>> No.18954517

>>18954398
my rigger papa chats in all his kids streams but mine ;_;
this is mostly a joke i'm pretty sure most of the people he rigged for he was friends with

>> No.18954576

>>18954398
im pretty sure mines on an internet hiatus and good for her. I need a break from shitposting online. I just dont know what I would put on in the background while drawing

>> No.18954921

>>18954398
i live with my art parent and thank them everyday

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18955130

I'm looking at getting art for my fantasy character OC commissioned. I was looking around on vtuber.gg at 2d modelers, and a decent number of them specifically mentioned that they don't do armor. Is that usually just for more full armor coverings? If not, would something like pic related likely still pass muster or do I need to just try stripping out any sort of armor entirely?

>> No.18955368

>>18954398
I haven't talked to her today, but I did yesterday. She's cool.
>>18955130
Just ask the artist. The worst thing that can happen is that they say no. I wouldn't think that something like your example would be that much of a problem.

>> No.18955395

>>18955130
If its just for some random art then look at dnd character artists. They are forced to draw armour at gunpoint or the paladin gets mad. Sadly you might have to look at twitter for them

>> No.18955855

>>18955395
I'm planning on making it into a chuuba, so I wanted to avoid paying the $ for a drawing & reference sheet then having to scrap a lot of the design because it's hard to find artists/riggers willing to mess with armor.

>> No.18956189

>>18954398
Yeah i thanked myself today

>> No.18956266

>>18955130
Learn to draw and rig yourself. Even if it's crap it'll get you a lot more respect than shelling out $2k for some soulless commission.

>> No.18956354

>>18952740
I see, though if he really is your friend i doubt he'll doxx you

>> No.18956886

Advice for finding quality but minimalistic (save for a few animations) rigging? I dislike the overt 'bouncy' style of rigging and would like things to err on the realistic side of things, but I'm struggling to find a rigger that has that in their examples. Sorry in advance for requesting spoonfeed.

>> No.18956959

>>18956266
I'd rather just pay the $ & have a model people will actually have some interest in than one that's garbage, but I can post here and have everyone tell me how much "soul" it has

>> No.18956960

>>18955130
>raven fire emblem
based taste

>> No.18957166

>>18956959
yep. get a decently priced half body rigging to start with, or just use a png. people who spout bullshit like 'soul' are the same one that will shit on a poorly rigged chuuba

>> No.18957190

>>18956959
I'm going to take the self made garbage route. Wish me luck. Will post results here when I'm done.

>> No.18957234

>>18957190
good luck, anon. take your time.

>> No.18957382

>>18957190
Best of luck anon. If you have the skills it is probably a solid option & will get you clout, but my drawing skills have a long way to go before they're ready for drawing anything besides meme shit

>> No.18958472

>>18956266
>Even if it's crap it'll get you a lot more respect than shelling out $2k for some soulless commission.
You need to get off the high horse ASAP.

>> No.18958611

>>18956266
I've only paid $600 for mine including rigging. I got to have a character design of my own realized better than I could have and two other human souls got paid. That's like three times the soul. :^)

>> No.18958749

>>18956266
shell out $2k for good art and rigging
>art and rigging buff
>it looks good
>people will check you out
learning to draw and rig yourself
>takes 3 months
>shitty model with shitty art
>"respect" from viewers who will never watch you
>some anon on 4chan will say "soul" once when your model png is posted

>> No.18959062

>>18956266
>shelling out $2k
An exaggeration, there's things at all price points
>soulless commission
the SOUL meme is retarded, people just slap it on to anything stylized differently than the normal anime look. You can get a stylized model you just need to find an artist that does them. selfmade art doesn't have any more or less "soul" than a commission, otherwise those artist's own avatars would be "soulless" as well and by that logic so would your own.

>> No.18961882

I wish I wasn’t as attached to this design concept that I have been working on and off for a year… it really is limiting me I think.
But I guess though I can complete this design first and then worry about coming up with a new design after I start streaming/soft debuting. I might even commission someone for the character ref sheet but might draw it myself, or get the designer to do up the model…
But for now, self made modo.

>> No.18962027

>>18961882
>self made modo
based

>> No.18962470

>>18956266
>just learn to do it yourself bro
Absolute retarded mentality that hinders growth and agility really, by the time these people get somehow decent at drawing and they debuted, others would have been on the moon or something

>> No.18963471

>>18962470
Yup. I spent a month and a half designing my own avatar before I realized that time truly is money and that I wouldn't be happy with anything that I could produce on my own. I'm glad I finally commissioned someone earlier this year.

>> No.18963477

>using that SOULLESS Dova Syndrome BGM? Just learn to make it on your own

>You're using Vroid? There's no SOUL in that. Spend a year or two learning Blender and Unity to create and model your own avatar from scratch

>Wait, you're free art assets? Just make them all yourself, think of all the SOUL

>> No.18963733

>>18962027
I should also have a self maid modo as well just for shits and giggles. t. male

>> No.18963825

>>18963477
SOVL

>> No.18963847

i'm glad everyone came together to dogpile the soul guy

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>>18963733
Go for it bro, so long as you think it would be funny/interesting.
I'm designing a guy in mil larp shit and you mentioning meidos makes me want to design the same for halloween or something.

>> No.18965805

well now i feel bad for drawing my own model

>> No.18965843

>>18965805
>feel bad for not giving some stranger money for something I could make myself and feel proud of
What a silly thing to say.

>> No.18966054

>>18965805
Don't. If you feel confident in what you can produce on your own, go for it. The only reason we jumped that guy earlier is because he said commissioned artwork is soulless.

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>>18965805
why? i started to get really serious about art because i wanted to make my own model. Though if i ever have the money i would love to commission tsulala

>> No.18967222
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I'm prepared to draw and rig everything myself. Not because I care about soul, but because I don't have the money to pay for a model and rigging plus equipment. I hate being poor.

>> No.18967309

>>18939770
Have no idea what I want to be.
I've got so many ideas, and I still need to learn unity/vroid.
Might just settle on a PNGtuber until I get everything sorted out.

>> No.18967429

>>18966086
I tried contacting them a while back and got an email back saying they weren't interested in taking on any more. "Sorry, I'm not accepting commissions for Vtubers at this time or in the foreseeable future" was the response I got.

>> No.18967547

>>18967222
>I'm prepared to draw and rig everything myself.
take a week, draw a png and then spend 3 months becoming an entertaining chuuba instead of putting together a shit model with a shit rig. you will make enough money to commission a proper model after 3 months of streaming if you work on being a good chuuba.

>> No.18967900

>>18967547
Next to no one is making 500 dollars (EXTREMELY low end for a model+rig) in just 3 months unless they're exceptionally good. When I had 20, I was making MAYBE 150 a month and it was because I had some insane whales that a friend passed along via some raids. I had friends with 2 or even 3 times my viewership who I considered much better streamers overall that were barely hitting their 100 per month. That's not a thing most people can pull off unless they're just an amazing networking and content creation and that rarely happens with PNGtubers because it's hard enough getting people to stick around.

>> No.18968042

>>18967547
on what planet is this realistic?

>> No.18968055
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Playing with ideas on how to make this part of my design more dimensional than like stickers on their face.
I think an anon drew an idea that they had but I couldn’t make out the details enough.

>> No.18968072

>>18967900
it's better than wasting 4 months of your life to create a shitty model with subpar rigging and barely starting your stream in July of 2022.

>> No.18968247

>>18968072
I agree completely on drawing or commissioning a PNG and starting from there but you're pretty much just lying to them and everyone else in this thread. No new chuuba is making that much a month right out the gate unless they're extremely lucky or have connections.

>>18967222
Get a PNG and stream with that while learning that stuff on the side, there's no point in just waiting til you've got a rig if it's going to take you longer than a month.

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/asp/ - anya sleeping peacefully

>> No.18973764

praying for the safety of all ukranian /asp/ie homies right now

>> No.18976693

>>18973764
Imagine being a Ukranian fandead right now...stay safe, anons

>> No.18979871

This thread probably won't be able to survive with the board speed we're about to experience, so remember to do your reps, /asp/

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>>18979871
i have to go to sleep so hopefully anya and the others can keep up the good fight
if not, one of us will probably make the thread in the morning

>> No.18982695

>>18939770
i dont have a png yet, I'm trying to find someone to draw me

>> No.18983794

>>18939770
>two happenings at the same time
Noone will see your shame anyway, so at least you'd get experience narrating your thoughts while playing a game.

>> No.18984623

>>18967547
If someone wants to do this, let them.

I don’t know what’s with /asp/ies and dismissing the time, money, and effort people are willing to put into their avatars. Sure, don’t spend half a year or $5000+ in preparations without knowing if you’d be fully committed but there’s nothing wrong with investing what you can afford to lose just to make sure you have some sort of advantage one way or another in an already saturated market.

>> No.18984934

>>18984623
>but there’s nothing wrong with investing what you can afford to lose
if you want to do this as a hobby knock yourself out. but if you want to "make it" wasting 3-4 months of your life crappily drawing a shit model and neglecting every skill you need to "make it" is a bad gameplan. 4chancorefag has been messing with his hair highlights in vroid for 3 months. not a single stream.

>> No.18985296

This will sound insanely menhera and schizo (and is), but one of the things I do to help practice natural flow of speech is find a "normal" IRL streamer and acting as if I'm in a call or conversation with them. Replying to things they say, giving my input , reacting to videos they're watching with them, cracking jokes with their setups etc. I know it sound absolutely insane and parasocial but it's helped me so much more than just reading shit from a prompt. Just record yourself doing it, listen to it back, and practice from there.

>> No.18985405

>>18985296
I'm actually going to try this. It sounds like a good idea. Do you have any streamers you recommend to try this with?

>> No.18985827

>>18985405
Find people in the Just Chatting section. It's pretty dead during the night time though. Don't pick Vtubers either.

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>> No.18989927

>>18963477
That’s unironically what I’m doing. The downside of using these things is that now every chuuba looks and feels the same.

>> No.18990274

>>18985296
Nice. I'm doing this too but with JP streamers to practice my language reps.

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>>18991590
Thank you for all your hard work, other Anyaposter. I’m going to bed, best of luck to you all.

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