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What is /asp/?

A thread for aspiring vtubers! Whether your goal is to make the journey as an independent streamer or to gain experience and build a portfolio for agency auditions. Let's help each other grow and make it. Indies are welcome to selfpost, but shill responsibly. Share your knowledge, insights, feedback, discuss what has worked and what hasn't worked for you. And always remember to do your research before posting personally identifying information. That includes both in this thread and in your audition applications to agencies.

FAQ:
>Do I need a fully rigged model to be a vtuber?
Nope! You can get started as a simple .png character!

>I want to learn how to rig Live2D models, where do I go?
Brian Tsui (of Iron Vertex), Kira Omori and the official Live2D YouTube channels have many tutorials available.

>Where can I find artists/riggers?
vtuber.gg, ArtStation, DeviantArt, Twitter, Reddit, Skeb.jp, etc.

>I just want to get started, can I buy pre-made models?
Yes! Live2D models can be purchased off nizima.com (Live2D's official marketplace) or booth.pm (general Japanese indie artist website). Be sure to check compatibility with your facial tracking software!

>Where can I learn how to digital market myself?
https://learndigital.withgoogle.com/digitalgarage

>Where can I find some good games to stream?
https://twitchtracker.com/games
https://sullygnome.com/

>Twitch or YouTube?
The general rule of thumb is Twitch if your content is primarily based on livestreaming and YouTube if your content is primarily pre-recorded and edited.

>Do you think there's an audience for X, Y, Z content?
First, ask yourself if you would watch a streamer of your skill and experience. Second, do a check on social media and look to see if other streamers are already creating similar content. Don't limit yourself to vtubers, include traditional real life streamers to scope out a potential audience.

Pastebin Guides and Resources:

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OpSec Guide: https://pastebin.com/uALiNZCV
"avoid doing this shit": https://pastebin.com/vbp6qEdt

Google Doc of Assets and Resources: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQHyRDZ3nxlIINfZz_wWCbgQ9gR4OgbTFhyGwq45DseUixkJJKbUmhPjnkWcmh7dOCDdxObAZXv_zti/pubhtml

Stay grounded, stay hopeful.
Start tweeting.

Last Thread: >>18817224

>> No.18882225

I was looking for VRoid tutorials and ended up finding out that there's a way to add accesories directly in Blender without using Unity, thought i might as well link it here
https://github.com/saturday06/VRM_Addon_for_Blender

>> No.18882259
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>>18870963
I've never heard about people complaining about coloured lashes, let alone seen any chuubas with any gaudy coloured eyelashes off the top of my head. If you want them to look good, they need to have dark lines with a good contrasting color to keep them easy to parse on your face as being part of your upper eyelid. While I loathe what they've done to Soul Hackers, Ringo is actually a pretty good example of decent looking colored lashes. She kinda looks like a chuuba as she is.

>> No.18883257

How did (You) go about getting your character concept from an idea in your head to a reference sheet? Did you go right to an artist & go back & forth with them, or did you try making a mockup on your own first?

>> No.18883290
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opinions on this design?

>> No.18883317

>>18883290
Cute and funny

>> No.18883350

I finally got are grip and clicked live button. Streamed for 20 minutes which is not much but i finally did it. Tomorrow I'll make it 40, next day 60. Step by step.

>> No.18883396

>>18883290
A little overboard on hair accessories but pretty cute.
i assume this is your art based on the filename?

>> No.18883474

>>18883290
Stripes texture conflicting with berries texture. Pick something one.
Also why general design is about strawberries only but dress have several other berries and fruits? I think it would be better to stick with strawberry only.
Overall very cute i like it.

>> No.18883495

>>18883257
If you go back and forth with an artist you’ll pay a design fee.

Typically it’s enough to have some kind of visual design with photo examples of specific things you want.

>> No.18883513

Is it possible with VSeeFace to trigger model changes on the fly with an expression?

>> No.18883533

>>18883290
>>18883396
Yeah, if you're going for a decora vibe there needs to be more hair accessories, otherwise it doesn't look intentional. I'm guessing you're trying more for lolita anyways? she's cute though

>> No.18883563

>>18883350
Better than me. Planned to start yesterday, spent two whole days reading about happenings. Rather nervous when you live within a few hours of drive from a nuclear plant, an oil refinery and a military airport

>> No.18883870

>>18883563
Good luck bro. I live in one of the country of current happening so I did to forget about current situation for are bit. Kind off helped.

>> No.18884444
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>>18883317
uoh
>>18883396
yup.
>>18883474
>Stripes texture conflicting with berries texture
I couldn't find a tartan texture so i used one that kinda fitted the theme, but in the final design, i will either use tartan or leave it plain.
>>18883533
thanks going to add more head stuff then.
>>18883257
i made this chart to keep me focused, i would say add stuff and characters you like into a collage.

by the way, this design isn't for me it's just a test for live2D, i will give it away once i finish it.

>> No.18885554

>>18883870
I live in the happening country as well. Seems like thing calmed down to the usual level, so I guess I'll stream tomorrow^W today already.

>> No.18886826
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Reposting these for more thoughts?

my boots, your balls

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>>18886826

Changed the chrome to matte black and added extra thigh pinch from the straps. Also decided on a snub.

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>>18886869

https://hub.vroid.com/en/characters/2235982153922967174/models/7334675816693653934

Also working on a combat medic arm band and thinking of what to put on the back of my cardigan. Eye spirals will be changed from black to lime and eye bags/shadow put directly under eyes.

>> No.18886945

>>18886869
This is nice

>> No.18886985
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>>18886945
Y-YOU TOO

>> No.18886995

>>18883290
great, a+, cute and funny

>> No.18887418

How important is Twitter for promotion and if I can get away with using Google Voice to register?

>> No.18887773

What is a mixer for? Basically, I only see useful for adjusting the audio on a microphone, like maybe you can use a different microphone and then have different settings maintained for the second input. Games are through hdmi though so that would be handled in OBS anyway, right?

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>>18887418
I don't use Twitshit whatsoever. What is your end goal? I don't have much care for huge numbers for example, my regular viewers are almost exclusively friends who actually know me thru gaming. Most don't use Twitter or even Twitch for that matter. Everyone has a YouTube and Discord account, it's been huge for me to schedule streams on YouTube and make Discord announcements as early in advance as possible, usually ~5 days before my weekly Saturday stream (which is the best day for everyone). I'd only use Twitter to announce schedules and share/thank fan-artists, currently.

Also, it might interest you to know that I don't care to monetize under Jewgle cock. I get game donations directly to my Steam (which again everyone has). I do plan on setting up a gofundme and crypto-friendly donation links though. I'm actually physically disabled though. So yeah again, what is your end goal? Catering to the masses or gaming together with your friends?

>> No.18887957

>>18887898
god damn i hope you kill yourself lol you sound so fucking annoying

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>>18887773
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_mixing
https://kettnercreative.com/audio-mixer/what-does-an-audio-mixer-do/
https://www.amazon.com/Audio-Mixer/s?k=Audio+Mixer

Scroll down to where it says "Articles related to your search"

>>18887957
awwww who hurt the anon this time? have a (You) xDDDDDDDD

>> No.18888053

>>18887418
its most accessible for connecting with fans off-stream, you can have schedules as pinned tweets and rt fanart, talk to other vtubers, etc etc. you choose how you wield it. also yeah you can use google voice to register a phone number

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>>18888011
someone asks a simple question and you start schizoing over crypto-friendly donations and your discord groomers, now you're posting 1000 year old holonigger memes

>> No.18888128

>>18887418
You could get away with it when I tried it years ago (didn't want to link my main phone # to my anime fanart account & have friends see my degeneracy). They might have changed things in the meantime though.

>> No.18888178

>>18887418
It's more important for networking than it is for promotion, but it can help a bit there too since it's just another site you can post your content to.

>> No.18888232

>>18888053
So that's one problem out and I can use gmail as email of choice.
Would it be wise to have one mail for business stuff, one for fanmail(probably no, but maybe) and secret one for registering on websites? Is there a way to prevent Google from making multiple Youtube accounts, so the secret email couldn't get tracked or should I use other mail provider for that?

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>>18888105

>> No.18888305

>>18887418
I don't understand the schizo hatred towards Twitter. I don't like it either but it's the biggest platform to interact with viewers, post schedules, and rt fan-art.

>> No.18888326

>>18888128
It demanded my phone number when I stalled at registering not-proper account on Twitter years ago, so my actual number is out of question.

>>18888178
Networking would be nice, but it seems like everyone on Twitter are sort of insane.

>> No.18888339

>>18888232
If you've never used gmail before you can utilize the +Add Account feature and switch from account to account instantly without even entering your password again. It auto-creates the YouTube accounts. The only downside is itll show all your emails. Make as many as you want, they'll all be tracked tho.

>> No.18888390

>>18888178
>>18888326
From my experience basically all professionals have direct messages disabled and small-time artists don't check them. I've had far more success contacting artists thru their Pixivs and Musicians thru Bandcamp or their official websites if they have one.

>> No.18888611

>>18888011
Okay thank you, so I'm roughly correct. I just don't see a big use for it if I'd mainly use one microphone and hdmi. I got a hand me down and I have a USB mic already.

>> No.18888619

colored eyelashes: yay or nay?

>> No.18888681

>>18888619
white eyelashes are pure sex

>> No.18888755

>>18888619
do what you want, youve been waiting for almost a day for responses. stop looking for validation in an attempt to stall at your character creation

>> No.18888793

>>18888326
>it seems like everyone on Twitter are sort of insane
My timeline is nothing but chuubas I like or am friends with, artists, and memes. You see what you follow. If you interact and follow people who interact with schizo shit just unfollow, it's very easy. The worst I see these days is a justified callout against a chuuba doing something objectively bad and black and white, like scamming artists and that's just so they can warn other artists. You see the worst because the worst is what gets posted, not the hundreds or thousands of just "i cooked something check it out" posts between the bad ones.

>>18888390
Networking isn't solely done through DMs, not sure why you'd just randomly be DMing people anyway outside of it being a commission (for artists) or you already interacting a bunch anyway and being mutuals which is typically what opens DMs. An artist has no reason to close or not check their DMs if they're taking comms and if they're not why would you need to contact them privately anyway?

>> No.18888797

>>18888619
White or any pastel hair eyes. Any other color would look better with very dark shade of hair(not black).

>> No.18888896

>>18888339
>The only downside is itll show all your emails
So if I create secretmail@gmail then it creates a Youtube account that anyone can notice and send stuff to that mail.
So I assume the proper course of action would be either create one gmail for official stuff that is attached to Google and use other providers for secret mails or to ditch gmail entirely and find another way to register on Twitter.

>> No.18888931

>>18888793
>You see what you follow.

this this and this, it drives me insane how many people bitch and moan about seeing menhera posting and face reveals when they only follow the most annoying fucking streamers

>> No.18889023

>>18888793
>You see what you follow.
I see. Maybe it isn't so bad.
I wonder how long Twitter will keep going, tho. I heard they got financial problems.

>> No.18889101

>>18888619
This >>18888681

Tho I'd say stick to black or at least black outline them for skin contrast. The latter which will look very strange if you're thinking exotic color. Might be venturing into trying to hard to be unique territory. You could like, post some paint-bucket'd references instead of being so bullyable, anon.

>> No.18889173

>>18889023
people have been saying this for years about anything that sucks but losing money doesn't mean what you think it does to billionaires

twitter is inevitably going to ban outright nsfw soon-ish which will be a massive asspain for everyone, not just e-thots, but that's the most you have to worry for right now

>> No.18889186

>>18888793
Rest assured, it was only regarding commissions.

>> No.18889252

>>18889173
>twitter is inevitably going to ban outright nsfw soon-ish
Oho, The Tumblr Exodus 2: Electric Boogaloo!
Where will the degenerates go this time?

>> No.18889289

>>18889252
Truth social

>> No.18889315

>>18888896
Yeah I use a mix of email providers for stuff especially like game and other media profiles. Currently I use Google exclusively for my personal and channel emails and a handful of one-time use for account creation emails. I don't check my e-mail regularly at all though. I did have one for work before I went self-employed. It's just another throwaway for game accounts now.

>> No.18889358

>>18889252
Newgrounds

>> No.18889461

>>18888896
From what I know, if you are logged into one account on chrome, Google will show the other accounts to you. I don't think other people will know about them. Also the youtube account will use the registrant's name, not the email account. So if I make a gmail account and give them my name as Johnny Vtuber, when it makes the youtube account it will default to that, and I'll still be able to change the display name. If I have my real private gmail account as the recovery email and my phone number as the 2 factor they show only the last two digits of my phone number with 2 factor before logging in. In the google account settings they have my johnsmith email and phone number shown in full, but only I can see that.

>> No.18889523

>>18888611
I'd be more concerned about GPU and dual monitor or even upgrading the mic than mixer. It's an unnecessary luxury if you're doing just voice and don't sing.

>> No.18889565

>>18888896
You have to click the +Add Account again to make it show up on your YouTube accounts list.

>> No.18889663

>>18889523
I got a free mixer and I was originally excited but I don't actually see myself using it for a while. It's from an older karaoke set up and I don't think the microphones that came with it are particularly good in comparison to the USB condenser I use.

>> No.18889827

>>18888619
No one cares about your design, in the end it's about your personality, really. Such small detail as colored eyelash doesn't matter, go with your flow. There are chubss that spent over 2k on a design but are 2view because they don't have any personality. Stop stressing yourself out for nothing. If you care about others opinions that much, why are you making a chuba in a first place, really? Please calm down.

>> No.18889859

>>18889315
Don't you need email to recover accounts if you forget password or something? It's quite dangerous to use throwaways unless you mean you're making permanent ones.

>>18889461
>>18889565
I think I just got confused.
I just don't want these extra Youtube accounts created if I were to make extra gmail accounts, is that possible?

>> No.18889971

Thanks for reminding about having multiple emails I got are bit retarded and connected everything to chuubaname @gmail.com

>> No.18890101

>>18889859
I have johnsmith@gmail.com and johnnyvtuber@gmail.com. I don't have johnnyvtuber added to my johnsmith account. On johnnyvtuber, I have johnsmith and my phone number as my recovery options, nobody can see this unless they are logged into johnnyvtuber. The youtube account for both is automatically created and I can't hotswap between accounts on either log in because I don't have it added as an additional account. I'll remind you that you delete a google account, so it may be worth your time making a second private account, just to see what your options are.

>> No.18890141

>>18889859
Unless you mean I can make the gmail account the secret one to register random shit on, while use other provider for actual business gmail.
So obvious.
So which email outside gmail would be good?

>>18889971
inb4 dick pills spam

>> No.18890231

>>18890101
So you mean you can layer e-mails onto each other as sort of buffer, interesting.

>> No.18890286

Jermacraft. Would appreciate thoughts on my voice, what kind of energy you get, etc.
https://voca.ro/1aveyvvGhQAD
>>18883290
Pretty cute. I'd like to see a bit more of the tan/brown color of her hat/ears lower down in the design. Something small like an accent color on her shoes or the frills (?) above them might work, but you wouldn't typically see that low.
Really solid work.

>> No.18890452

>>18889859
Oh and by default I think your youtube likes and subscriptions might be public, but I don't know how anyone would find your channel if you don't upload a video, comment or like anything. So if you have an account like inquiriesforjohnnyvtuber, I wouldn't be concerned about the associated youtube account.
>>18890231
You can have a secret base layer account with your personal email and number as recovery options and from that secret account make your public facing vtuber email(s). You can use separate accounts and google voice phone numbers all the way down if you want, but I just have the 2-factor keeping people out of my vtuber email. I would recommend making the email you use for log ins different than the email you have for contacting you, so people don't get into your accounts.

>> No.18890952

>>18887898
I find your incredibly selective hangups surrounding online privacy and monetization very amusing. The woke YouTube, gofundme and Steam user.

>> No.18890955

>>18890452
Thanks, I might actually need to write it down lest I forget it!

So best layering would something like:

[Base secret e-mail with Google Voice,
rename Youtube account to something random] -->> [secret E-mail for registering stuff, random mail name, Youtube acc. name scrambled.] --->> Twitter/Twitch account etc.
I
I
I
V
[Chuuba business E-mail with 2-factor (using Google Voice number?) + official Youtube account]

Did I get it right?

>> No.18891109

>>18890286
I like it. Kinda reminds me of Ike Eveland from nijisanji.
Heck, if you speak softly/cuteboy style you could sound almost exactly like him.

>> No.18891113

>>18890955
Actually, I think I might need 2-factor for the website registering e-mail. Leaks happen after all.

>> No.18891187

>>18890955
Kind of. I recommend not having your youtube account be the same email as your business outreach account. You don't necessarily want the people you commission/collab with to be able to request a password reset on your youtube/twitch/twitter accounts, same with your steam, or game accounts. You can be extra and have all of those be separate from each other too.

>> No.18891232

>>18888931
I follow only chuuba friends and chuubas i watch, they never post that shit, but i get recommended a bunch of vtweeters under "YoU MiGHt LiKe" despite me or the people i follow never interacting with them

>> No.18891285

>>18889252
Boorus

>> No.18891534

>>18891187
>You don't necessarily want the people you commission/collab with to be able to request a password reset on your youtube/twitch/twitter accounts

So I understand I could make another Gmail, scramble Youtube acc. and make it official business account, but I don't really understand the quoted part. Do you mean people can see under what email those account were registered?

>> No.18891687

>>18891534
If I send a commission request email to someone they see email1 as the sender. I don't think it's a good idea for email1 to be the same log in email I use for my twitter log in or for my streaming youtube account. Your login email on youtube and twitter accounts are not public facing. You would want the contact email you list publicly to be different.

>> No.18891710

What is this discussion? Get real, wtf.

>> No.18891900

>>18891687
Ah, I see, so business email separated from any account-making so I can use it to actually send mail to someone.

>> No.18891982

>>18891710
Describe the reason for your dissatisfaction beyond it being a repeat discussion.

>> No.18892021

when is the last time a female vtuber came out of this thread?

>> No.18892121

>>18892021
2 days ago there was an unmistakably female vocaroo

>> No.18892139

>>18892021
a while ago and that's a good thing. we don't need anymore egirls in vtubing. they can face cam like all the others. the future of vtubing is male.

>> No.18892244

>>18891687
And thanks for explaining stuff to me!

>> No.18892270

>>18892139
nijisanji is already oversaturating the market

>> No.18892291

>>18892270
>already oversaturating the market
it doesn't matter to indies at all

>> No.18892359

>>18892270
holobrony cope

>> No.18892580

>>18891109
Huh, neat! I'll keep that in mind and check out some of his videos. Thanks, anon!

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>>18890952
T-Thanks!

Am going on Craftopia right now with another vtuber if anyone has been playing it with their .vrm
https://steamcommunity.com/id/SwissedToast/

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>find small vtuber
>picrel
Why do autists

>> No.18892880

is there a list of all the graphics i need for streaming? like the chatbox, name, etc

>> No.18892891

Thanks for this thread anons it's been very helpful getting started

>> No.18892910

>>18892880
your model and the game screen is all you need. you don't need chat you don't need latest follower and sub.

>> No.18892916

>>18892845
Who cares if twitter is stupid?

>> No.18892962

>>18892910
i have lots of free time, i would like to work in the graphics in the meantime.

>> No.18892995

>>18892962
>i have lots of free time, i would like to work in the graphics in the meantime.
work on stream ideas instead. no one cares about graphics.

>> No.18893500

>>18892995
i can do both, i just like how it looks

>> No.18893677

>>18892995
Shit advice. A basic amount of production value will make people give you the benefit of the doubt if they tune in during a boring or perhaps not so strong segment of the stream. Some people can get away with just having their model on screen over the game but that’s people with a following already

>> No.18893691

>>18892845
isn't this the menhera girl that was in the threads a week or so back

why are you surprised by this in the slightest lol

>> No.18893705

>>18892845
I wanted to watch that one...

>> No.18893709

>>18893677
viewerfaggot shut the fuck up. i'm tired of listening to your retarded takes.

>> No.18893750

>>18893677
this, maybe i'm a chimp but funnee enjoyable graphics will have me stop and stare at a chuuba which can be just long enough for me to give them a chance

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ic9SrbLlOI

Craftopia with two of my fellow vtuber friends and our custom .vrm models! Shills, away!

>> No.18893935

>>18892845
Menhera-chan...

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>>18893677
I just think they add charisma to the stream, obviously at the end, it all comes to the quality of the streamer but I do prefer streamers that have fun with the graphics. Dunno why that anon is so angry. I guess i will do chatbox, stream starting/ending, brb and the name

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>>18892845
>>18893705
IM SORRY i got suspended again it must be so annoying keeping up with this im sorry but i finished my awesome big drawing and i will return to twitter ill just use one of my siblings phone numbers but i guess i have to tweet boring stuff now IM REALLY SORRY i hope you guys like the drawing sorry ..................

>> No.18894142

>>18894099
C-cute!!

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>>18894099

>> No.18894392

>>18894099
Don't post your guro fantasies on twitter you dummy

>> No.18894408

You can't really get suspended for threatening violence towards a digital monster, can you.

>> No.18894445

>>18894099
Very cute. What's your favorite digi?

>> No.18894466

>>18894408
I don't think so, she probably is just on the watchlist because of being banned once recently.

>> No.18894504

I got my avatar in. Do you think my artist would be mad at me if I posted it here? Would she even find it?

>> No.18894547

>>18894466
Weird. When I was using twitter a lot I would only get suspended for telling politicians to kill themselves, and even then I would only be suspended for like 24 hours. I told Ted Cruz that I hoped someone would bounce his head against concrete one time and felt pretty good about it.

>> No.18894596

>>18894504
You saying that immediately motivates anyone here to reverse image search your character and tell the creator about you posting it here, if they've posted it on their own socials.

>> No.18894597

>>18894504
I think you should ask them if they would be cool with you posting it here before you do.

>> No.18894603

>>18894547
dam you said that to the zodiac killer with zero fear. Dude

>> No.18894655

>>18894603
I'm kinda a sexy badass irl. Humble too

>> No.18894697

>>18894504
depends. honestly i know some chuubas and artists in the chuuba community that get in hysterics about this place, treating every post incredibly seriously rather than where you go to blow off schizo-steam. that being said you'd have to be particularly insane to get mad if your client posted their new product on a forum you don't like. like i dont like schmeddit but if someone posted a pic i drew for them on there i'd be flattered they want to show it off

>> No.18894960

>>18894596
thats mean anon. Dont do that
>>18894597
I might just stick to posting my own art. Then. Ive posted my work on 4chan before. If someone was that autistic they could hunt me down already and oh noo she posted on an autism board what a shocker.
>>18894697
Yeah. People get real weird about this place acting like the whole thing is /pol/

>> No.18895027

>>18894960
>thats mean anon. Dont do that
I didn't plan on it, just giving you the heads up fren.

>> No.18895079

>>18895027
ANON PLEASE

>> No.18895115

>>18894504
You paid for it. Post it.

>> No.18895122
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>>18895079

>> No.18895491

>>18892021
Tabgod, that girl with the red/black haircut that played a lot of TFT might be the latest name that I recall? there's been a pretty even split of male and female /asp/ies that come from this thread though

>> No.18895539

>>18894547
>felt pretty good about it
why is this place filled poltards and leftypoltards? they can't shut up about their internet poisoned ideology for a second

>> No.18895684

>>18895539
No anon they need to spew their autism everywhere. Its 4chan useing vtubers what more can you expect desu

>> No.18895706

https://voca.ro/15OOtgrTlrDT

What do you think fellas? Also I got a new iPhone hooray

>> No.18895734

>>18894504
you'll be fine
chances are if they did find out then they're already /here/ and don't care that you're /here/ too

>> No.18895817

>>18895706
cute

>> No.18895820

>>18895706
Really nice and cute.

>> No.18895848

>>18895706
nice nice nice! Very cute!

>> No.18895921

>>18895706
Cute, kinda ASMRish

>> No.18895971
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18895971

Fellow /asp/ies, should I bother trying to chase my vtuber dreams if I'm a registered sex offender? I figured if that got out, it'd destroy my channel and all that work I put in would be wasted.

>> No.18896023

>>18895921
Woops, that was just me leaning too close into the mic. I'm hoping I can find some time to draw + rig a model to play around with since I have a nice fancy iPhone now!

>> No.18896036

>>18895971
become a loli, i would watch a loli sex offender

>> No.18896047
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18896047

>>18894142
>>18894160
thank you i heart you zussho forever smileee
>>18894392
erm .............of course i dont like guro im normal...............................................
>>18894445
my favorites paladinmon so awesome and it took me literally forever to get him i also like impmon because i wish he was real and terriermon too i also like harpymon and apocolymon and i hate armageddemon why does it have so much health

>> No.18896089

>>18895706
>good taste in literature
>cute, soft voice
im gonna gosling

>> No.18896111

>>18895971
Lol. I think it's fine, but you're the one person here who actually should be very worried about hiding your identity. It's possible, you can do it.

>> No.18896172

>>18896089
Oh, I've never actually read Moby Dick, sorry :x I don't really want to read a whaling encyclopedia. I just liked the opening paragraph

>> No.18896205
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>> No.18896290

>>18896172
>I don't really want to read a whaling encyclopedia
Dropped but you still have cute voice and I hope you debut

>> No.18896609

>>18896290
Aw thanks anon. I swear I'll read it someday like with Ulysses.... And yeah I guess I can have a "debut" once I finish a model, so hopefully that will be fun.

>> No.18896632

What can I do if I have a “okay” voice as a guy? Like I have a hard time trying to pitch up my voice or even sometimes just speaking clearly. (I have a high-arched hard palate as well.)

>> No.18896641

>>18896023
Don't worry, i didn't mean it as a bad thing

>> No.18896947

>>18896047
Should we keep our eyes peeled for a new twitter or wait for the current one's suspension to be lifted?

>> No.18897005

>>18896632
post vocaroo

>> No.18897097
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fuck it posting it. Added some autistic shit to fuck with reverse image search. Why? Im not drunk enough to not worry about getting yelled at by people just yet

>> No.18897632

>>18896947
i already made a new one and ill only post extremely normal stuff and art so it might be boring but maybe i can stream soon hooray i have a lot of cool ideas
https://twitter.com/miyocherusama?s=21

>> No.18897710

>>18897632
>vtweeters being dramafags
always

>> No.18897779

>>18897710
im sorry i started drama with calumon i told him im sorry

>> No.18897808

>>18897005
Here you go:
https://voca.ro/14DF0Tx8344r

>> No.18898250

>>18897097
eyes and eyebrows are looking funky. i like the concept of the design but the colors, patterns and texture choices are really odd all together. maybe incorporate most of the spots from the tail into the outfit and definitely squinch closer the eyes

>> No.18898368

>>18898250
I moved the eyes a little closer together when I got her but I've realized that it wasn't enough. It's a bit late now as I've already paid the rigging. So that fun

>> No.18898437
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18898437

What are the safest donation websites that don't show your PayPal name and email? I can't afford my own bank account to use PayPal so I want to use my family's account. I heard that making business PayPal account is too risky and a lot of people get banned too. Can I get more information and websites? I need to make a donation goal and open commissions...

>> No.18898543

>>18894504
it isn't yours?

>> No.18898556

Starting from ground zero when it comes to networking, how do? I plan on marketing myself both on Twitter + Tiktok. Tiktok I think I understand because its just short content + tagging, engaging with viewers.
I have mental obstacles when it comes to Twitter though. I'm not sure how to approach it. I'm going to be putting content on there too, but whats the general gameplan I should go into on Twitter? I'd imagine its different from Tiktok since Twitter rarely shows you tweets from people you don't follow, I see other Vtubers replying to other Vtubers tweets (even if they don't know eachother) and I'm wondering what the success rate on that is, or if I should be doing something else to get my name out there.

>> No.18898561

>>18895706
drink water

>> No.18898641

I've been smoking cigarettes for 10 years. During all that time I only tried to quit twice, and one of them was simply because I was broke, but now Vtubing makes me really want to improve and sing as I used to before my throat and lung capacity got all fucked.
I haven't smoked for 2 days in a row. It might sound like nothing (and it is indeed) but it's a start for someone that smokes 2/3 of a pack everyday. My resolution is only growing stronger.

>> No.18898739

>>18897808
Your voice sounds fine, you sound dead inside tho, do your enunciation reps

>> No.18898802

>>18898641
You can do it anon, I believe in you. You should start doing vocal practices if you aren't already, but don't exert your voice too much so that you can avoid damage.

>> No.18898827

>>18898641
Congrats anon! Keep at it!

>> No.18898873

>>18898641
I'm proud of you, anon! Keep up the great work :)

>> No.18898972

>>18897097
i like it! do you have a Twitter setup? i would like to follow you

>> No.18899031

>>18898437
What do you mean you can't afford your own bank account? Didn't know that was a thing. You can just open a paypal and let the money go there and then transfer it once you get a bank account.

>> No.18899045

>>18898802
>>18898827
>>18898873

Thank you! Can't wait to watch my VODs in a year or two and start to notice improvement.

>> No.18899208

>>18897097
Looks cute, the only thing I would recommend you to change is the line that curves towards the mouth, it kinda looks like they're merging. I think moving it below the mouth would look better.

>> No.18899421

>>18899031
Not them but i did have to close my bank account because if you don't have ~644 USD or more they charge you ~3 USD a month and it was syphoning my little savings. Granted, i live in a third world shithole but afaik they could be in a similar situation

>> No.18900307

So for streaming I've been using closed back headphones that isolate quite a bit of sound, but I find that it makes me raise my voice way too much and it makes me sound a bit unnatural. So instead I've been thinking about getting open back headphones, but those leak quite a bit of sound. Wouldn't a mic pointing at you pick that up? I don't think I'd mind something like airpods either since those dont isolate sound at all, but also don't leak due to the nature of being buds.

>> No.18900348

>>18899031
Ive got similar situation as >>18899421 . I pay for a lot of things monthly already thanks to me living alone and far from everyone, so I can't afford another monthly fee... I heard Stream Elements doesnt require you PayPal, so I might connect it to my family's bank account and the donations would be sent?

>> No.18900365

>stream for 14 months
>finally hit the same number of views Finana's PL had on her twitch channel
aspies keep dropping her name as a vtweeter but 16k views isn't a joke this shit took a long time.

>> No.18900536

>>18900365
nice job anon! i also passed that number recently but didn't realize that it had any significance

>> No.18900966

>>18898739
That is definitely one thing I want/need to work on.
For some reason too, I keep on talking fairly softly as well, maybe that + tiredness is making me sound a little dead inside.

>> No.18901432

>>18900966
General miniblog warning: Honestly though I do have some things going on at the moment that will hopefully get mostly resolved by sometime this summer with eye surgery

>> No.18901655

>>18895539
>>18895684
I'm not like that anymore if that makes you feel any better. I don't plan to be an epic anime political pundit, just felt like sharing about times I got slapped on the wrist on twitter

>> No.18901739

>>18881736
Anybody know how to do a Pixelated Avatar for Vtuber like when tracking different movement it creates diff pixel. Can't do it in Cubism since it only deforms iirc

>> No.18901807

Stuck between a design that fits my voice and one that feels more true to my personality. I know design isn’t everything, but I can’t think of a great way to combine the two and it kind of sucks. Was anyone else paralyzed by indecision? How did you overcome it?
>>18900348
That’s really cool, anon! Keep up the good work :)

>> No.18901844

>>18901807
>Was anyone else paralyzed by indecision? How did you overcome it?
Just picked one and went with it. Stopped noticing it and viewers never really commented other than "I like your design" comments when they first drop by the stream.

>> No.18901893

>>18901739
Are you looking for something like Keina has?

>> No.18902001

>>18900307
No way a mic would pick any sound from open backs unless you're listening at extremely unsafe levels.
Leakage isn't as bad a people make it out to be, especially if you're in a quiet environment.

>> No.18902522

>>18901807
>Was anyone else paralyzed by indecision? How did you overcome it?
went with something that i love and adjusted it to my personality. What's your idea? always remember than gap moe is strong.

>> No.18902964

>>18901807
>Was anyone else paralyzed by indecision? How did you overcome it?
I had to contend a lot with my first design not really representing me properly and it made me feel burnt out pretty quickly because I felt like I was going to step into the shoes of someone that wasn't really who I am, so what I did was make a brand new design from scratch with more focus on how I would draw an original character using the first artistic inspirations that popped up in my head rather than going for a specific look, and then refined it from there. Months later and it still makes me happy to even look at it because there isn't really anything I can complain about it, even kinda fits my voice because I made sure to keep it a little grounded.

IMO if you can't decide between a voice-fitting one and a personality-fitting one then I'm just going to assume neither are actually that good of a design because you don't feel like either of them can properly represent you. If you don't want to try a design from scratch though, pick the personality one, but having any sort of apprehension is dangerous.

>> No.18902979

>>18889289
Can I jerk off in the waitlist?

>> No.18903037

>>18897097
Distance between eyes is are bit too much. It would work if model was more westernized but if you try to do anime tm try to keep exactly 1 eye distance (including lashes).

>> No.18903098

What’s the limit on revealing stuff about yourself on stream? Aside from common sense TMI stuff.

>> No.18903169

>>18903098
There isn't one. Do whatever you want.

>> No.18903754

>>18901844
Uuuuugh. I know you're right and I should just buckle down and pick something, but my head keeps going "what if" and it sucks.
>>18902522
That sounds like a good idea! Come to think of it, mine are a lot more similar than I initially thought. I think I spoke too quickly and misidentified the issue.
Regardless, both ideas are pretty basic. The general premises are a vaguely country dogboy (voice) and a cabin-dwelling werewolf girl (sense of self). I have a lot of interests and traits that suit canine-y stereotypes, so I think either would be fine... but I'm a woman with a man voice. Both would suit my personality, but one of them makes me a babi and the other makes me sound like one. I'm not sure which I'd prefer.
>>18902964
I'm glad you like your design now! That sounds like a fun (if taxing) process, but I'm sorry it started off roughly.
And you're totally right. I'll make sure I'm wholly happy with whatever I have before committing to it. I don't want to redo it every x months.

>> No.18904250

>>18903754
both ideas have something in common, they sound very cozy.
>I'm not sure which I'd prefer.
don't go with a design based on your voice, i think most people get used to the voice eventually. If you are afraid of getting called a tranny, don't worry, every vtuber gets called a tranny no matter how squeaky their voice sounds. I think you also have to think about the audience, most vtuber watchers are horny weebs, so you will have more success from the female avatar.

>> No.18904315

>>18903754
>but my head keeps going "what if" and it sucks.
You're going to be asking yourself "what if" for the rest of your life might as well start and have something to show for it.

>> No.18904648

>>18904315
i think the best thing would be to go for something simple like xanimal girl and then alter it to your liking, most viewers prefer generic designs over something unique

>> No.18904655

>>18904250
Cozy is exactly what I'm going for! I'm glad that comes across alright.
And those are really strong points. Thank you, I really appreciate it!
>>18904315
I'll grow a pair and get to work, then. I'm grateful for the motivation - thank you :)

>> No.18904861

>>18898556
I've got no clue either. It feels really cringy to fight for attention on there but that's the way the game is played.

>> No.18906716

>>18898556
Just participate on conversations that you find to be interesting anon, doesn't need to be about vtubers. Do you like certain anime? Look for related tweets and join those conversations. Literally like how you're browsing 4ch right now, you just need to be a faggot and become OP by creating some tweets yourself

>> No.18907006

hey /asp/ does anyone have experience in voice acting? I need opinions on a 30 second voice reel I made. I guess if I want to make it more visible I'll have to make an actual thumbnail, but content wise what would be a good thing to read?

no jermacraft please
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UURYfp3KdWQ

>> No.18907084

>>18907006
you're trying to force a voice that's way too low for your skills and it sounds extremely breathy and weak.

>> No.18907469

>>18907084
yeah I wanted to try it out because I like messing with breathy/raspy voices. What do you think I should do? Actually work within my speaking range then gradually find my groove?

>> No.18907573

>>18907469
>What do you think I should do?
don't do it. voice acting lines might work for a video game or one off character line reading but will not work for a stream. add on top your inexperience you'll likely just blow out your vocal cords after the first hour.

>> No.18907795

>>18907469
If you plan to stream, be natural. Tons of fake voice chuubas slowly killed their vocals chords over the years.

>> No.18907834

>>18901893
not really but I'm thinking of manually making frames and have hotkeys for different frame animations

>> No.18908162

>>18907573
But I'm not going to stream with these voices they're more of just like potential character voices I can do. I'm asking "Is this a good demo of characters I can voice?" I'm aware that forced voice acting for like more than an hour as a character will be a bitch while streaming

>> No.18908203

>>18908162
>they're more of just like potential character voices I can do.
they're not that good.
>I'm asking "Is this a good demo of characters I can voice?"
no

>> No.18908261

>>18907006
I'm not well versed in voice acting, but with the line delivery is 'inconsistent' is the best word I can find for it. With the low voice, most parts are good, but your voice shakes a bit at some points which sours it. Like you said, I would recommend you work within your speaking range before you get to that pitch.

>> No.18908351

>>18908162
>>18907795
I stream but I'm not shilling my twitch channel, I'm just planning on uploading voiced content on youtube as like a voice acting thing.

>> No.18908474

>>18908261
>>18908203
thanks I'll work on that

>> No.18908541

Is tiktok any good? I have mental hang-ups on installing that obvious of literal Chinese spyware. Does it properly boost any numbers or does the attention you get on there primarily just stay on the platform?

>> No.18908630

>>18908541
you sound like you're the type of schizo to freak out over inconsequential stuff. so to avoid starting another timeloop, don't install tiktok for your own good. you can safely ignore it.

>> No.18909186

>>18908630
Nah, I'm typically pretty chill. I just really hate China after the T incident lol

>> No.18909217

>>18909186
>I just really hate China after the T incident lol
then don't use tiktok. simple as.

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/asp/ies, I have a habit of constantly commenting on what I'm doing in games on my stream. Is this bad? Do I need to start going on longer tangents and put more focus on cracking jokes? How do I go about practicing?

>> No.18910824

>>18909938
Commenting on what you're doing is okay for a beginner simply because it fills dead air, but isn't good if you do it too much. The viewer can see what you're currently doing on screen, they don't need you to comment on all of it, so first start trying to comment on something the viewers can't see such as WHY you're doing something, your considerations etc. From there try talking about things you can go on tangents about and making jokes as well. Chat interactions obviously trounce all else if you can get them to talk to you, and jokes are easier to make when talking to people directly for most.

>> No.18910978

>>18910824
I tend to elaborate fairly frequently on my thought process. I've considered going on tangents about random shit, but I've found nothing ever comes to mind.

>> No.18911547

>>18910978
>random shit
>nothing ever comes to mind
You aren't meant to start talking about something completely random in the first place, but something that reminds you of the current situation. If you're playing a game and have to fight robots, talk about some anime you liked with robots in it or other games where there was a really cool robot enemy you enjoyed fighting. If you see something cute, start talking about other animals you find cute. If you're fighting a boss, talk about what you tend to enjoy in a boss fight (multi health bars, evolving attack patterns, etc). You can really go on and on for hours if you learn to "play connect the dots" as I like to call it, but the trick is to keep trying until it becomes effortless. You'll have trouble at first but if you keep trying you'll begin to do it naturally.

>> No.18911678

>>18911547
This response helped a ton! Thank you! I'm making the switch from prerecorded content to livestreaming. It's a tough transition.

>> No.18912070

>>18908541
Windows is American spyware. The internet exists because of ARPANET, a network created by the US Department of Defense. Do you have a mobile phone? That's a hot mic that you carry with you at all times; maybe even a camera, too. If you're an American citizen you probably have a Social Security Number; not sure how it works in other countries but I would imagine there are similar systems in place.
You can just not use TikTok if you don't like TikTok. Trying to livestream on the internet but drawing the line as far as your privacy is concerned at a specific social media app is kinda pointless.

>> No.18914194

>>18912070
meds, now.

>> No.18914464

>>18895971
Depends on what you did. If you like grabbed someones ass or said lewd things, that's bad but not career ending. Anything heavier than that and you're probably fucked.

>> No.18914573

>>18914194
Never!

>> No.18914719

Realised I'm ngmi. Doesn't matter if I'm having rising numbers or I'm being entertaining if I still go full schizo with thoughts and get anxious at what people think of me so I feel like shit marketing myself and talking to other vtubers, or get depressed over irl stuff. How do I turn my autism into content or balance it like the other menheras?

>> No.18914796

>>18914719
Therapy or counseling could help. Sobriety, a healthy diet and exercise also make a world of difference.

>> No.18914859

>>18895971
why would anyone know unless you tell them

>> No.18914930

>>18914859
>y'know, this reminds me of that time that I moved to a new neighborhood and was legally obligated to tell my neighbors... how happy I was to meet them

>> No.18915148

>>18914930
That'd be the perfect cover, just keep alluding to it so everyone thinks it's a joke.

>Walkin' by that playground got me so turned on...-to the idea of having kids myself, maybe I should try and settle down.

>I'm not legally allowed within two miles of a school...-sponsored bakery, I just can't help myself around fresh cupcakes!

>> No.18916196

>>18914796
That'd be good yeah, I'm eating like shit and stopped lifting (no alcohol though). I'm was looking at my university's therapy but they won't open until March, so I guess I just gotta avoid pulling any other yabs until then, maybe just be on hiatus while in therapy.

>> No.18918311

>>18916196
March isn't too far away, thankfully. Hang in there and try to take better care of your body in the meantime. You'll feel better and you'll feel better about yourself. Just don't beat yourself up if you fall off the wagon again. You can make it if you try.
This is probably very corny of me but I like this song a lot; maybe it will help you:
https://youtu.be/lhL1lUzmjcs

>> No.18918915

When you're talking to fill dead air as a 0view, how much of your rambling should be reacting to the game you are playing vs sharing stories or anecdotes?

>> No.18919041

>>18918915
>as a 0view
it doesn't matter at that point

>> No.18919121

>>18919041
Obviously the most important thing to getting more viewers is marketing/getting my name out there, but I don't want to do that & be offering an experience that a lot of people find boring to just stay where I am.

>> No.18919326

>>18918311
Thank you anon, it's not corny at all. Thank you for caring, and I really appreciate you sharing that song. I'll try my best to hang in there

>> No.18919476

>>18919121
>offering an experience that a lot of people find boring to just stay where I am.
you are overthinking it. it does not matter. no one who catches a glimpse of a 2view's market is going to give a shit about whether you're doing game commentary or just telling stories.

>> No.18920107

>>18898556
Hey guys! I'm doing a MySteRy TiER LisT! Drop your PNG below and I'll include you in my next stream! Haha I wonder who will get S-tier :P

>> No.18920756

>>18898972
I don't just yet. Well one that's fully set up with stuff
>>18899208
>>18903037
To be honest I kinda like the mouth gives her a stupid look. I'll probably end up fixing the eyes oneday but I'm not sure how as it's getting rigged right now

>> No.18920758

I thought I could make it without the pandering but I've hit a wall. I'm stagnating. If I don't grow then I'm going to be in trouble.

>> No.18921149

>>18920758
>I thought I could make it without the pandering
what made you think this?

People have demonized the term "pandering" to somehow only show it as a negative thing, but realistically how are you going to gain an audience if you have no target audience? Every content creator you've ever watched panders to someone.

>> No.18921192

>>18921149
The clickbaiting, the coomerbaiting, the cloutchasing. I'm realizing successful chuubas do it because it works but it needs to be done correctly. Most 2views just mimic what they see others do without knowing what happens underneath. That shallowness is what puts off a lot of people. I realize I need to start doing it though but correctly.

>> No.18921232

>>18921192
This. I need to figure out how to do it properly.

>> No.18921310

I recorded my voice in potato quality. I'm mostly wondering if you can understand me, or if my voice is annoying and/or retarded.

https://vocaroo.com/1d5FRPav7qhw

>> No.18921321

>>18921310
you need a better mic because it sounds like you're using your laptop's integrated webcam mic but it's fine.

>> No.18921670

>>18921192
Yeah, you don't need to do any of those things and still pander to an audience. There's just this huge stigma against some of this shit for no reason other than people constantly complaining about nothing.

Marooney and Dot pander to retro game lovers and nostalgia.

Asmongold "panders" to MMO lovers

Clickbaiting doesn't have to be "SHE WANTS WHAT IN HER MOUTH?!", you can still make clickable videos using engaging titles. There's nothing wrong with that at all

People will look at any type of chuuba interaction and assume it's clout chasing. One of Snuffy's friends was called that until people realized they'd been friends since she was small. Clout chasing rarely actually works since most people can see through that shit. Interact with similarly sized creators you enjoy or want to get to know, or creators who don't mind interacting downwards.

>> No.18921763

>>18921670
Spare me your high horse talk. I've heard it millions of times. You're not getting it. It doesn't work in the long run. I know you're going to go Google search the two chuubas who made it without pandering and conveniently ignore outside circumstances that allowed them to grow.

>> No.18921837

Neither of those two anons but find me one single chuuba, who wasn't already famous before starting, who got famous without pandering.

>> No.18921905

>>18921763
Except I flat out said you can still pander. There's nothing wrong with pandering because it doesn't literally mean horny ahegao face coomer title clickbaiting coomer baiting. EVERYONE panders to some sort of audience, everyone, Every single creator you watch yet somehow enjoy despite this pandering. I just think you need to stop looking at the term as if it's a bad thing when it doesn't automatically mean what people seem to think it does.

>>18921837
Yes, that's how any form of creation works. You decide on a target audience and pander to that audience, otherwise your content is directionless and just you sitting there playing video games for 4 hours.

>> No.18921962

>>18921905
>it doesn't literally mean horny ahegao face coomer title clickbaiting coomer baiting
This also only works for girl vtubers. All the top boy vtubers are not so vulgar, save a few who pander towards largely male broskie audiences anyway.

>> No.18922028

>>18921905
>EVERYONE panders to some sort of audience, everyone
You should realize that this is a meaningless statement if it applies equally to everyone. You're just not getting it all. That viewerfag schizo was right, it was wrong of me to come here to get a perspective. Never take lessons on how to fish from the fishes themselves.

>> No.18922068

>muh "if everyone is X then nobody is X"

>> No.18922072

There are some huge bitches that post in this thread sometimes.

>> No.18922177

>>18922028
Enjoy hating what you do then. Every time I post numbers people say they're fake so I stopped bothering. Pandering is merely catering to a specific audience to which your content aligns. Furries, coomers, retro gamers, dudebros, "Gamers", whatever you call ASMR viewers. It's a fundamental part of content creation and the sooner you and everyone else realize this easier it will be to set goals and create content you enjoy.

>> No.18922851

>>18922177
>whatever you call ASMR viewers
ASMR sigmas

>the sooner you and everyone else realize this easier it will be to set goals and create content you enjoy.
People also have to realize that streaming on Twitch with 0 viewers is not going to magically correct itself even if you're the most interesting person in the world. Twitch has no algorithm for being discovered as a 0viewer.

>> No.18922935

>>18922851
> Twitch has no algorithm for being discovered as a 0viewer.
yeah if people haven't realized they need to network and create content for YT then they're ngmi. It's such a dead horse that there's no excuse to not know at this point.

>> No.18922966

>>18922935
Facebook is also good but good luck being a vtuber with your real name plastered everywhere.

>> No.18923212

>>18922935
>yeah if people haven't realized they need to network and create content for YT then they're ngmi.
there's only one way that works and that's clickbait and coomerbaiting like the anon above said.

>> No.18923545

What is the obsession with using the term clickbait as if it's bad? Not all clickbait needs to be you flat out lying about the contents of the video. "Dark Souls Highlights" with your vutber png just kind of there does explain the contents of a video, but something like "I can't sleep until I beat this boss..." has much more flavor to it and can be just as true despite being considered clickbait. Creating challenges, restrictions, stakes, etc help you to better create content that has more risk to it and that holds on to an audience much better imo.

>> No.18923597

>>18923212
>Making an interesting title is clickbait
Even Shakespeare did it

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>>18923545
>What is the obsession with using the term clickbait as if it's bad?
because of shit like this.

>> No.18923630

>>18923601
>i donated $1000 to trolled this streamer until he quit minecraft
what the fuck

>> No.18923682

>>18923630
Forsen's Baj maybe.

>> No.18923741

>>18923597
Easier to say what he did not do.
>inb4 your mom
He did your mom as well. Titus Andronicus, act 4, scene 2.

>> No.18923913

>>18923601
OK? There's still plenty of other ways to bait titles. Even cooking Youtubers I watch have done this with things like "The meal I ate every day for a month!" and just a picture of a good looking sandwich. It doesn't have to be all bullshit and lies even assuming some of those dono videos are true.

>> No.18923915

Would translating and posting clips on the same channel you make your own content be considered bad manners/scummy or would most people not mind? Always wondered about that.

>> No.18923961

>>18923913
>other ways to bait titles
>"The meal I ate every day for a month!"
i think the entire point is that titles like those are shit because they're solely made for the point of just getting clicks. spin them how you want but clickbait is still clickbait.

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>>18923961
>solely made to get clicks
What's wrong with that? If you aren't being disingenuous then why is that an issue at all? I'll use Ludwig as an example since he's just an abundance of them, but what is fundamentally or morally wrong about a title like this?

He did challenge a Radiant player with 3 friends. I'll give you the tiktok react shit being a shit filler video. He did ask famous streamers to rate pokemon. He did get challenged by a speedrunner. He did buy a bunch of "As seen on TV" bullshit. He did critique a bad matpat video.

What's there to "spin"? These are engaging titles/thumbnails. This is a genuine question but in your opinion, what should the alternative even be to this? What's the "right" thing to do in this case? Realistically what is the difference between "I bought these things so you don't have to." and "Testing As Seen On TV Product"?

>> No.18924257

>>18923961
>Oh boy I can't wait to make a video that will get no views.

>> No.18924827

I have a temp lapel mic. Probably not gonna use this one for streaming as I got it just to chat on games.
but thoughts on the voice? https://voca.ro/1dndRdjFcTaH I

>> No.18925246

>>18924827
Literally couldn't make out half of what you were saying, get a better mic

>> No.18925259

>>18924827
Yeah you're gonna need a better one. Great voice and speaking confidence though.

Odd though, I use a lapel mic as well. Did you fuck with it software-end too much and it turned into shit? I left mine completely untouched without any effects, I just clip it to my collar. Though it's my Dad's and supposedly around 40$ and he's really with at speakers/mics. See >>18893806 for reference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS_VIVVmTTE

>> No.18925278

>>18924827
Very cute voice but >>18925246 is right. Please try again and talk slower and articulate more.

>> No.18925378

>>18895971
If you are american it might as well mean you pissed outdoors - depends

>> No.18925429

>>18925378
From the fact he hasn't said what he did in the last ten hours I'd assume it's something bad enough to worry about.

>> No.18925509

>>18925429
Anon who hasn't answered in ten hours here.
You don't wind up on the sex offender registry for getting drunk and pissing behind a Dollar General.

>> No.18925569

If it's so bad that you can't tell us as an anonymous poster then yes, you're fucked, don't even try to be a vtuber honestly because if it is that bad then not only will you lose all your followers but some crazy fan is going to dox and murder you in your sleep.

>> No.18925576

>>18925509
You can, there have been recorded incidents of it. Now what the fuck did you do, anon? no one here will know who you are unless you manage to piss off a janny enough be goes to the lengths to ip trace your ass.

>> No.18925656

>>18925576
Officially, rape, but only because consent couldn't be proven.
This is why I'm worried about starting a creative career. That shit is creeping behind me.

>> No.18925678

>>18925656
unironically just don't then.
If you do, do it on a separate computer.

>> No.18925815

>>18925656
Like I said, there's zero reason anyone should discover anything about you unless you literally tell them. Make a new email, new twitch, YT etc. Don't connect your IRL name. That's it.

>> No.18925831

I'm pretty sure Twitch puts a notice on top of your profile that you're a registered sex offender. At least I've seen it before.

>> No.18925846

>>18925831
Do you have an example?

>> No.18925860

>>18925831
Meant Twitter, sorry.

>> No.18925919

>>18925656
consent couldn't be proven because they were underaged?

>> No.18925935

>>18925919
i plead the fifth

>> No.18926064

>>18925935
Why the fuck would you do that? I swear, my sister dated a guy who's lawyer literally got him to plead guilty to rape even though according to him he didn't do it. Why the fuck do the guys who end up on the offenders list do because you do dumb shit at trial?

>> No.18926066

>>18925656
come clean and stand by it
or opsec opsec opsec.

I myself am worried about getting doxxed, not because I did anything but because who am I on the internet is completely separate to who I am in real life. now keep in mind this might be insane but I have a sockpuppet account that I've been maintaining for years, and finding it is difficult but not impossible. a really dedicated schizo could find it. but it's just a distraction. there is a few fabricated yabs due to the nature of whats on the sockpuppet but all of them can be explained if it ever comes to it. I put some computer generated selfies on there for good measure too.

>> No.18926104

>>18925860
I remember seeing something like this but it was just some function on Twitter people were memeing.

>> No.18926202

>>18926104
I would believe that too.

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>>18925509
Not gonna lie I'm a registered cyber terrorist and have pending felonies against NYPD. I've been doxx'd and swatted before too. Don't let it stop you, menhera-anon. It will be good for you to care less what others say about you and to prove thru results that the past is past.

Results speak louder than both actions and words.

>> No.18927017

>>18926954
>Registered cyber terrorist
what the fuck you could incorporate that into your character (if you played it half-jokingly and covered up your real identity good enough) and it would actually give you MORE viewers.

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>>18925656
>>18926954
Oh and I've been raped and molested at Riker's Island and have had K2 seizures and am on crutches now from motorcycle crashes. I'm open and transparent about all of it to my viewers who are mostly my friends from the communities of various games. To be honest, self-employment and streaming might be one of the best options out there for you period. Prison outreach physical labor for convicted felons is trash.

You'd be surprised what other gamers and streamers have been through. I play and work with a lot of former/active 911/military and gang.

B-By the way, would you rape me?

>> No.18927133

>>18927080
NTA but if you're a girl I'd buy you a drink and see where it goes, I'm not into rapeplay though.

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>>18927017
What do you think I've been doing lmao. Yubicraft unironically thinks I'm a fed. I am very pro cop and do talk with city/federal police and behavioral scientists/criminal psychologists regularly though. I'm planning on asking one such scientist to let me interview her for a stream. She's very interested in what streaming (police bodycameras) have done for the world. I also lived at a really abusive communist zhang cult for a year if I'm gonna shill.

>>4976277
>>17825113
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5BvGI6--ko

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>>18926954
Shit, that's intense. I have another felony case pending against me where I'm accused of hacking because I opened a public Google Drive. I've yet to be given a court date for six months now. It's a deep southern state, so it'll be yeeted out when I eventually do get one.

I take shit head on. Fuck what other people say. I want to live my best life. My main concern is Twitch banning me for my record. That's not so much a "Ignore the detractors" sigtuation.

>>18927080
I'm so sorry you experienced that, anon. Self-employment has always been my dream. Creativity is my whole being.

As for the rape comment, depends on if you're a chick. Gotta be a chick and not a tranny.

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>>18927133
I'm 100% sober now, daterape-kun. Can I bite your dick off?

>> No.18927217

>>18927198
Only if you put it back.
Can I buy you some melon soda?

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FUUUUUCK

LONDON?

>> No.18927295

>>18925935
>>18925656
I'd say opsec like there's no tomorrow, but it seems like you aren't smart enough for opsec.

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>>18927166
You don't want to be on twitch imo in the first place. Especially not if you're prepared to embrace a quasi-political flavor to your streams to effectively cancel doxxfags and karens. It will happen though, just letting you know. It will. This >>4976277 got me into trouble, btw.

Also thanks, I-I'll be whatever you want me to be, Daddy!

>> No.18927372

kill yourself schizo

>> No.18927374

>>18927314
Oh no. I wouldn't embrace political stuff. I'd just shrug off people giving me shit.

Read the deadpost you made. Respect.

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>>18927217
Not if I buy you one first. I-Indirect kisses!

>>18927166
Don't expect money to come out of streaming though. Seriously see the video in >>18927163. For someone like you it'd be more about finding fulfillment and actual happiness while addressing whatever pathological needs you have for attention, validation, and financial security.

>> No.18927473

>>18925246
thought as much, I'll look into a better mic. I was planning on it anyways
>>18925259
Thanks! I think mine is just a shit lapel mic. I got it on amazon. As I said I don't intend to use it for streaming.
>>18925278
thanks! I do talk fast and that's a thing a lot of people irl say about me. So i just gotta open my mouth more and get a nicer mic

>> No.18927483

>>18927372
See >>18888241

(You) need five in a row for Bingo!

>> No.18927513

>>18927473
I hope I find you in this flooded market and get to simp for you, fast speaking femanon.

>> No.18927529

>>18927163
Who are you on Yubicraft, might I ask?

>> No.18927540

>>18927473
Start streaming with what you have even if it's said shit lapel and pngtuber. Also lay off the caffeine.

open your mouth more this!
*unzips dick*

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>>18927529
That's a stupid question.

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>>18927513
Seconding.

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>>18927513
Thank you simp anon!
>>18927540
oh oh my. I will also not lay off the caffeine or I will fumble my words even more. You want that anon? A young woman falling over her words in on stream

>> No.18927760

>>18927540
>>18927723
Caffeine is the way to go. If you aren't replacing your blood with caffeine every time you stream, what are you even fucking doing?

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>>18924827
>>18927473
>>18927723
Can I jerk off to your vocaroo?

And yes, it sounds even cuter that way actually. I highly recommend these, not too strong and big enough for 2 sittings. Easy on the stomach and doesn't make your piss green.

>>18927760
My blood is 80% cum.

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>>18927723
h-haaahahh

>> No.18927858

>everything is ready soon
>gets shingles 2 days before rigger send me the model

Shit i guess my vtuber career will be delayed a bit, i go to the doctor as early as i can and get bunch of meds, but it still hurt as fuck.

>> No.18927933

>>18927858
The fuck kind of thirdie shithole are you stuck in, anon?

I'm going to the hospital this week for my spine. Rescheduled my Saturday collab and did a spontaneous stream with collab members instead.

Get it done.

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18927947

The masculine urge to simp. I'm glad we have so many grils in these threads.

>> No.18927963

>>18927947
Do we? How many of them are trannies, though?

>> No.18927973

>>18927823
Go nuts and bust one. Also why is your blood mostly cum. Are you eating it? That's kinda gay dude and I don't have a dick so idk if you're going to be interested in me desu.

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>>18927314
>- Management told me that I can't tell other holomems about my graduation, but I feel like that's wrong so I told them anyways 3 months earlier.
- I won't be able to use hololive discord channel anymore so I exchanged LINE (messenger app like whatsapp) with Matsuri
- I wish in the future Vtubers can give number 1 priority to entertaining their fans
- I'm being monitored by management, if I slip anything they will end my stream right there.
- I will work hard so that I can say I did not regret leaving Hololive.
- Indies are a hot thing today.
- I love to talk about others so I'm sad I can't talk about other hololive members anymore.
- I will become a person that people will say "If you talk about vtuber you're talking about (me)". If I can become that then maybe the management might think "We need to call her back".

HOLY SHIT

>> No.18928028

>>18927933
Not shit hole, i just being forced to take corona vaccine and this is what happened after i take the second one last month, even the clinic doctor told me he already meet lots of people getting shingles after taking corona vaccine.

>> No.18928056

>>18928028
Fucking hell, anon. It's not like you go out of your house period why did you fall for the shill? Work application?

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>>18927973
C-Can you say "go ahead and bust one then" for us on vocaroo?

>> No.18928127

>>18928026
WHAT? WHO?

>> No.18928210

>>18927166
>I'm accused of hacking because I opened a public Google Drive
What the fuck?

>> No.18928251 [DELETED] 

>>18928210
Welcome to the south, motherfucker. And not just the south. A small southern town who decides it's worth extraditing over.
It was a Google Drive someone sent to me that was set to public with sensitive information in it.
TECHNICALLY my bail conditions say I can't be online, but it's been a year and I'm anonymous.

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>>18928127
>https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/thread/4976277/#4976809
>https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/thread/4962902/#4976867

>> No.18928260

>>18911547
>tfw a sperg

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>>18928254

>> No.18928365

>>18928254
tfw I have no face

>> No.18928457

Thanks for supporting her when it was happening, Yellow Cat.

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Go have breakfast and your morning meds, ya fucking schizos.

>> No.18928540

What the fuck am I even reading dude.

>> No.18928548

are we actually being raided? i refuse to think anyone believes this gay retard's larp

>> No.18928614

>>18928096
Here just for you as you asked so nicely https://voca.ro/1kIa5kNhCb3b

>> No.18928618

>>18928056
Yeah about my IRL job, can't be helped, gonna leave the place i live once i earn enough money.

>> No.18928692

>>18928614
UOOOOHHHHH

>> No.18928745

>>18928614
>>18928692
I-I mean, Thanks!

>> No.18928769

>>18928618
Make it happen!

Get the fuck out of the city while you're at it. Trust me on that.

>> No.18928774

>>18928745
Sure you do

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>>18928774

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>>18928614
...I stream on a laptop

>> No.18928950

>>18928614
UOOOOOOOH I mean UOOOOOH I mean UOOOOHH

>> No.18928965

Wowee what a thread. And to think I got told to take my meds for hyperbolically calling Windows American spyware earlier in the thread

>> No.18928988

>>18928965
Some days are more intense rides than others, anon. Feel free to join us in Insanity Day.

>> No.18929030

pyuu

>> No.18929067

>>18881736
How do you do it bros? I've been streaming for 2 months straight now and I still have no viewers. My mental health is going crazy because I can't stop thinking about it, even though I want to just do it for fun.

>> No.18929115

>>18929067
First, stop caring about viewcount.

>> No.18929179

>>18928548
definitely my second least favorite selfposter to come out of this thread after zylphe

>> No.18929192 [DELETED] 

>>18926954
>>18927080
>>18927163
>>18927198
>>18927314
>>18927460
>>18927483
>>18927540
>>18927654
>>18927705
>>18927823
>>18927933
>>18928026
>>18928056
>>18928096
>>18928254
>>18928295
>>18928365
>>18928457
>>18928526
>>18928692
>>18928745
>>18928769

test

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>>18928548
You do, apparently. Kek!

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what did he mean by this

>> No.18929331

>>18929218
holy based

>> No.18929391

>>18929329
who are you quoting?

>> No.18929429

>>18929067
What >>18929115 said.

More than that, check your categories. Make sure you're in one people will watch. Network a bit. Genuinely befriend people and integrate into a larger streaming society. Do your best to make something you can be proud of, even if few people watch it.

>> No.18929674

>>18928949
as long as yours doesn't lag like mine im sure your fine dude

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>>18929067
>>18929115 here, you can learn from me firsthand if you want. I'm 4 months in with 15 uploads and inconsistent schedules. My mental, emotional, and physical health has made immense breakthroughs directly thanks to streaming. Happiness and success isn't measured by viewcount. Also >>18929429 is 100% correct. DM me if you wish.

SwissedToast#1337

>> No.18930110

>>18929948
>asdfghjklzxcvbnm,qwertyuiop[
>Impression click-through rate 5.9%
IF HE CAN DO IT, YOU CAN DO IT

>> No.18930172

>>18930110
Unironically one of the more motivating things in this thread for all the wrong reasons

>> No.18930235

>>18912070
>>18928965
take your meds, schizo

>> No.18930240

swissedtoast is a pedophile

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>>18930240
did you forget where you are again, doxxanon?

>> No.18930362

>>18930240
Why do you say that?

>> No.18930379

To any /ic/ anon's here, is there any clear definition between tracing and emulating / mimicking when it comes to creating an avatar?
Specifically just the hairstyle, I didn't set the reference image as opaque and trace over it directly, but more or less try to eyeball and follow the lineart while doing some very slight alterations of my own - but overall there's still a strong resemblance.

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>>18930240
Uohhhhhhhhh! !! !! Child erotic !!!!!! Child's belly and chest !!!!!! Erotic …

>> No.18930417

>>18930240
you're about to get your IP posted by a legit cyber terrorist, kiddo.

>> No.18930435

>>18930235
I mean, I'm not wrong? I'm not saying you have a dedicated fed listening in at every hour of the day, just that singling out TikTok for being spyware just because it's Chinese is pretty silly. You're going to have to sneak those meds into some especially delicious cheese to get me to take them.

>> No.18930448

>>18930379
you can get into some pretty deep shit for that even as an indie. it's legal territory

>>18930417
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.

>> No.18930479

>>18930379
You'll be fine, most people don't care if something resembles another thing unless it's an obvious copycat from top to bottom, like that one chuuba model a while back that was a full on copy of a genshin character besides the head and a different color scheme. Don't listen to the other anon.

>> No.18930502
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>>18930435
If you seriously care what the feds think about your online activity, you may seriously have actual schizophrenia. That means you probably have high IQ, at least.

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>>18930435

>> No.18930561

>>18930502
t. glowie

>> No.18930582

>>18930561
t. schizo

>> No.18930590

>>18930582
t. woman

>> No.18930669

>>18930502
But I don't care? That's not really what I was trying to get across with my screed about the internet; the point I was trying to make was that if you're going to call TikTok Chinese spyware that you should probably be holding the rest of the software you use to the same standard.
>>18930547
Never heard of that one before. I do like soft ripened cheese in general though.

>> No.18930686

>>18930590
t. man

>> No.18930735

>>18930686
t. serpent from the old testament

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>>18930669
Brandy washed rind, shit's amazing. If you like overripe Brie/Camembert it's definitely for you. Crazy strong even in France you're not allowed to transport it via transit. Absolutely delicious, try Whole Foods (also ask for free samples of other stuff while you are there).

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>>18930735

>> No.18930896

>>18930735
The snake did nothing wrong

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>>18930896
I agree.

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>>18930669
meds

>> No.18931055

>>18931026
At least recommend me a cheese!

>> No.18931061

>>18930990
thicc

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