/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

ohhhhhhhh konnui...

wah!

spats

spats.

spats!

>>18742881
>holofightz was a mistake for the human race where the fuck is my money edition
Just get better at betting lmao

dogeza

>>18742881
anon, the g...

>>18743371
>Garters into spats
I don't claim to get it, but I'm into it.

spats

Hololive made me hate spats, stop nerfing crotches

I've already set this to 1080p but it still looks grainy. Youtube's so annoying

Ohhh Konnui

shouganai bruh

>>18743759
Yeah, Youtube really never does these lives justice.

Previous thread: >>18645541

>>18743884
if Cover decided to release all of these youtube-only lives on bluray, they'd be banking millions

you're telling me Flare's new visual didn't even get 30k live viewers?
I see 29k views in total

>>18744052
flare's not really a popular holo to begin with

>>18744052
It was 65k live views when I checked it out. Youtube's API takes time, please andastand.

>>18744052
The viewcounter isn't right while the stream's still processing, wait for it to process and then check.
I wasn't watching her CCV though.

>>18744116
oh so it's just Susan being the usual filthy jewnigger whore cunt bitch, good!
Flare might not be wildly popular but she deserves at least a good average

Ohhh Konnui, I hope you saw your oshi being cute today

>>18743510
Publius Quinctilius Varus where are my coins!!!

>post mel please
ogey
>>18740133

Good morning, I am buying Towa.

Did I got the right choices?

>>18746251
dyrbi

Flare's concert is at 55k views after ending but peak viewership LIVE was around 65k

>>18746376
obviously 10k of those people closed the stream after less than 30 seconds

uohhhh konnui

>>18746348

ohhhhhhhhhh

ohhhh do your fit reps u fucking takodachi

i need

>>18746684
Joe... he's dead

>>18746685
krunny

>>18746685
bussy

>>18746685
Mio's thighs

16 fricking k. wtf

>>18746622
It worked!

how are my trades?

post 'em

Like a glint from the blue, here's a quick Morning Review.

Top 3 Upwards Adjustments (of 22)
>Chloe :: $16,911.87
>Ayame :: $7,715.29
>Korone :: $7,434.80

Top 3 Downwards Adjustments (of 40)
>Gura :: -$7,815.08
>Haato :: -$7,603
>Kronii :: -$5,309.04

Overall Average Adjustment is -$129.62
Average Upward Adjustment is $2,561.72
Average Downward Adjustment is -$1,609.85

Don't get baited, pick up some good deals, and keep an eye on that zhonkbot.

>>18746721

>>18746996

>>18746996

>>18746976
>he didn't believe in the stinky orca

>>18746996
my shitcoin stacks mooned so hard I'm in the green?

bit early in the week, but I can confidently say I'm NGMI

>>18747238
>3x sana
yep, ngmi

>>18747282
booba, pls undastand
ayamy should've been buy 1x. forgot to adjust zhonkbot

guys I'm gaining liquids

>blast away all your coins in a green week
>surprised pikachu once divvies hit
they do not yet understand this game

>>18747347
>selling calliope moririn

>>18744052
>>18746376
An anon posted here a few months ago claiming to work for youtube, it could have been a larp but what he said seemed pretty specific and accurate to my experience. From what I recall for live streams it isn't counted as a view unless they watch a certain amount of the stream and it has to be the main focus, not a background window.

>>18747396
Stop posting whore.

>>18747430
I didn't post Ayame

>>18747430
Noooo, not whore, am orca!

>>18747397
yes I'm selling, I am not a deadbeat so I am allowed to sell mori even on a small spike like this

>>18747570
>selling calliope forest when her ROI is the highest out of all coins right now

I love fucking money, bros!

>>18747425
Twitch works similarly, so it doesn't surprise me. You can't mute Twitch's player or it will remove you from the viewer count, for example.

Pagi!

>>18747695
selamat

>>18747680
I'm making 2/3rds of divyys with each sell I don't see the point in holding especially since the brap cycle might happen again soon

>>18747695
ini sudah sore kau indobot bodoh

>>18747680
sell Mori now to buy 10x Mori later

>>18747798
if you don't have much liquid, sure

>>18747910
you will never FUD me, tsugushill

>>18747910
post naked tsugu and ill believe your posts

>>18747687
twitch is really sensitive with tracking the volume. I remember a particularly bad era in 2017 where ifyou changed the volume during an ad, it would restart, if you had 1 dropped frame during an ad, it would restart, if you changed tab, it would restart.
This was during the short time they defeated the adblocker too so that time was fucking torture. Worst part is in my region, every single ad slot was bought up by a shitty "phillips oneblade" ad that i got to see 2000 times in a year.

>>18747680
>NOT selling Mori
If you're not a deadbeat, she's 20% over average and profiting almost double her dividend average. For every 1 you sell, you are getting 2 coins' worth of dividends.
Don't go crazy, but selling a few today shouldn't be retarded by any stretch of the mind.

>>18747396
I'm making more money 5x selling her now that I ever will by waiting for divs

I'm buying Mori

this scares away the deadbeats

>>18747695
pagibot, show us your trades!

>>18748458
>10xing iofi
ngmi

>>18748458
>iofi x10
based

>>18748446
You may not like it, but this is how peak performance looks.

>>18748446
Thinkpad need to shift into maximum autism and rightfully retake mori crown

>>18748058
You are right in the case of a relatively new account, where any kind of dividend strategy should be basically nonexistent as you focus solely on trading. However, if you have several hundred million to your name, you face a brand new enemy: opportunity cost.
In other words, when you sell, you do so to secure a 'profit' here and then, but you also have to be sure that you can utilize that liquid better - once you get past a certain wealth point, you can't really 'rebuy' certain coins at their base prices since you'd buy them anyways even without that sell. Right now, in terms of long-term buys, there are only a handful of coins that are better than Mori for dividends at this price (at 1x... not 10x, of course). So while you are correct that selling her now is a valid short-term play, I believe that for someone in the Top 50 it would be a blunder in the long term.
>>18748980
I think I mentioned it several months ago but the painful irony of this entire thing is that I also use a ThinkPad as my workstation laptop... God damn you, Cypher.
>>18749115
It won't be able to. I have enough funds to 10x Mori all week or otherwise out-buy it, so this is basically a game of Chicken sapping 100-150 million per week in taxes and overpriced coins. The only thing that stings a bit is that it'll bomb my trading performance on paper, but c'est la vie.

>>18749312
>spoiler
Indeed

Alright, /nasfaqg/! It's time to shake up your brains once again! I, heimin, would like to present to you my Toilsome! Enigmatic! and very Strenuous Trial (T.E.S.T)!
I have analyzed the mistakes of the last puzzle, so this time it's much more reasonable. If anything, it's actually extremely simple now. But you can just consider this one to be a skirmish to get things started.
The reward this time is just 10 million dollars.
There are no hints this time. Because there's really no need for them. You get a puzzle and a key (a very straightforward one this time no steganography this time!) from the get go.

The cipher goes like this: "PPTTOPPPTPIOPPRRPPTIOFIIIPTPPFRTIPRTITRIIITTPTPRRF"
I'm sure after reading the cipher, some people have already guessed what they need to do to solve it.

While it's no obligatory, it would make things easier for me, if you could leave your ingame name in the same post with your answer. And with all that being said, I wish you good luck. Have fun!

>>18747996
no________________________

>>18749350

>>18749360
what good are you for then

>>18749312
don't worry the money I'm getting from mori is fueling my funds to buy more ame

>>18749463
Terrible business decision but I respect it.

>>18749411
dead hours posting and fud

>>18749350
based

>>18749481
honk ban all tsugu posters until they post tsugu lewds

>>18749463

>>18749463
I too am charging my attack as we speak.

>>18748252
at current rates 20 weeks and you also wouldn't have to buy her back for 15-20k

post sex

>>18750349
In 20 weeks I'll be dead

>>18750416

>>18750416
Strange request, but one that can be honored.

>>18750416

>>18750416
segs with Konnui

>>18749481
she W A N T S it
>>18749563
the other tsugu posters keep telling me not to post lewd but we know she is perfect for it

>>18752298

>>18749563
>>18752298
Someone bring back the Sanaposter. I also want lewds of Sana

>>18752298
no she doesn't. don't lewd the tsoog

How do you guys balance keeping up in the leaderboard with not becoming a deadbeat? Do you just fuck it and buy a shitton of oshicoins? Asking to all non-deadbeats, but also shitcoin oshicoiners in particular

>>18749350
Thanks for funding my irresponsible Mori purchases. Check DMs.

>>18752730
Just gotta buuuuuuuy.

>>18752730
Skill issue.

>>18752768
But ina has one of the worst divvie performances in the game, and buying too much of her will seriously screw me up in the long run...

>>18752783
how do you manage it?

no more.

>>18752730
you dont need todiv stack for sure until you hit purchase power saturation which isnt even really till rank 50 now with the x10 update.
not having mori as oshi doesnt stop you buying her when she dips, and even if you buy medium shitcoin you still get 6%
i also put it to you that having 50% more of a 6-7% coin by daytrading gets you the same divs as someone who religously bought div coin for 10-11% so the only sin is having liquid left over on a friday (or stacking mama coins which can barely get 1%) so dont worry about it. t. high tax trader who isnt triangle.

>>18752730
I only buy my holo oshi (I don't really follow her nowadays 2bh famalam) whenever she drops hard. Other than that, I'd ignore her

>>18752856
I don't. I've been about 40-50 for months now and can coast by my earlier success when I didn't divulge so hard into my oshi.
But for a real answer, it is much easier to passively buy your oshi constantly, not at a high rate and never sell to eventually overtake Mori in coin count. Increase oshi buying whenever there's a dip for her, and just monitor your Mori coins, by selling notably when there's a spike. If you're rich, it shouldn't be an issue, but if you're poor, you have to become rich so you can have the leeway to do whatever you please.

>>18752730
It simple. Grug multi-buy beeg dips, avoid "fake dips", not buy "ain't sellin" FUD. Grug not make retard decisions for oshicoining. Grug am become crab. Grug not even min-maxing daytrading, let alone making it to adjustment on time. Grug somehow still consistently in a good place in returns report.

Not-Grug once tell Grug to just 1x buy oshi more often, even on days where buying oshi seem dumb. This work good. Grug still sell oshi when she goes to the moon though.

>>18753083
>grug sell oshi
grug is a faggot

>>18752856
>ina
I see you have chosen pain. Good luck.

>>18753134
Grug like money.

>>18752856
I also oshicoin a shitcoin but I'm not complaining, ina-ronically skill issue

>>18749350
The correct answer has been received. The reward is on it's way.
On a different note, I want to know what day of the week is the best for posting these kind of puzzles: http://poal.me/976nsj
Anyone, who's interested, please answer the poll above. Thank you

>>18752856
Anyways, in all seriousness, you only have to do better than those around you to rise on the leaderboard. Most players do not trade "optimally". Use BBB's reports. Do your poi reps when I can't be arsed to stay up late enough to post that adjustment chart. Ina had better divs than Marine this week. Don't complain.
>>18753304
Fri/Sat no doubt, when the thread is "slow".

>>18752749
the winter of 21

>>18752730
I balance it out by having tons of oshi and buying oshi's oshi relentlessly

Micomet fags are the worst posters of this board

Tomatoe haters are the worsts posters of this board

People who cannot spell are the best posters of this board

>>18754851
Why do you luke retards?

>>18754891
>luke

>>18747567

>>18755055
>>18754966
/nasfaqg/ star wars marathon when?

>>18755105
Backstroke of the West added to the movie list.
It is basically weird English-to-Chinese-to-English pre-Google Translate Episode III subtitles from a Chinese pirated DVD copy, narrated over by actual voice actors.

>>18755105
I can add it to the new poal
So much room for autism and bickering...
>Which ones to actually watch...
>Watch order partial to IV, V, VI, I, II, III myself
>How to watch IV-VI 4K77/4K83...still waiting on 4K80, or D+77/D+80/OTD83, or...SE DVD, or worse yet, actual official BD/D+ versions
hell, even the prequel trilogy has had numerous edits over the years. I watched a "Grindhouse" 35mm film scan of RotS and was surprised at how many VFX shots got re-done for the fucking Blu-Rays. Lucas and his fucking "vision"...
>>18755543
Definitely going to utilize cykatube's new alternate audio track feature for this.

>spaghet is selling an Amehat
Should I start to worry?

>>18755598
There is one torrent with a single seeder that has the dubbed file, otherwise there's this video with poorer quality: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XziLNeFm1ok

>>18755826
Yeah I just found it. The audio is still fine though, right? Would only be using it as a "dub" option on cykatube. Already found the raw subtitles from Backstroke of the West http://weihwa.com/~whuang/starwarssub/Star%20Wars%20Episode%20III%20-%20Revenge%20Of%20The%20Sith.eng.srt
for the zoomers who don't remember http://winterson.com/2009/01/episode-iii-backstroke-of-west-redux.html

>>18755543
Big 00s flashback to chinkdubbed yugioh and SONIC RAT (sonic x)

Hiroyuki Polka

>>18754413
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
SEETHE USANIGGER

>>18758780
and this is why

>>18759158
WIPE YOUR TEARS BITE THE PILLOW

>>18755598
I'm of the opinion that pretty much every serial media is better in release order, especially if it's autistic about plot.

>>18759532
Do not watch Monogatari in release order and watch only in LN order.

>>18743074
>>18759925

>>18759366
even if you go in raw I won't feel you, cuck

>>18760330
avarice?

>>18760330
open wide faggot

>>18759532
Don't listen to h>18759662

>>18760330
avarice post

>>18760789
>>18762078
he is asleep

ohhhh applause

Ohhhh applesauce

>>18762596
>>18763309
when is he coming back... the aggie is going to close at this rate...

>>18762280
how do you know? so he was successful in getting some private way to talk to you clocks
hot steamy steam/discord sex

>>18764811
... he left the aggie and its night in his timezone

>>18764889
hes still in the aggie too? whats his endgame

>>18764993
I'm fairly sure he made a new account

remember to check your dms /nasfaqg/
I don't like what'sa going on with this amehat

>>18765678
>remember to check your dms /nasfaqg/
They're empty
What's happening?

>>18765678
how do i even check dms

>>18765678

Hello /nasfaqg/, we’ve prepared a financial report for you, the Returns Report. Seeing how leaderboard place might not entirely reflect how well or how poorly you are doing anymore and the benchmark page is vulnerable to daily market fluctuations, we’ve collected data from the 200 top active players with open wallets. It was then processed and separated into four categories: Trading, Investing, Dividends, and Wallet Appreciation to gain more insight into your performance during the past week. The tables will use colors to denote possible membership of a corporation/group after they form.

>Changelog
• Average net worth now includes six data points, taking an average of daily net worth on every day pre-dividends.

>Disclaimer & Limitations
Before we proceed, I should note that the Returns Report is still a work-in-progress. The dividends and trading data should be reasonably accurate, but net worth gain due to inflation (wallet appreciation) is still being worked upon, so take it with a grain of salt. In its finished state, the Returns Report will also include losses/gains of net worth due to auctions, gacha, betting, and market fluctuations, painting a whole and complete picture of individual components that caused your net worth to change over the week.
The data collection has several limitations:
• It does not include data from closed wallets.
• Inactivity is denoted solely by the lack of trades in the past week.
• If someone were to open and close their wallets over the week, it’d only count the open-wallet period.
So, if you are active in the top 200 and want to see your performance in those reports, set your wallet to public!

>Income Overview
The data was collected during the 20:00 GMT+0 13.02.2022 to 20:00 GMT+0 20.02.2022 period. Data is sorted from largest to smallest total income during the data collecting period.
To define the sources of income:
- ‘Trading Profit’ stems from selling coins within the last week. Once a coin is sold, an associated ‘buy’ transaction is matched. The difference between buy price and sell price, deducted by buying/selling taxes, constitutes the trading profit column. Zeros in this column indicate a lack of sells, while negative values indicate inefficient trading.
- ‘Investments Profit’ stems from coins bought but not sold within the last week. In this case, the ‘profit’ is measured by taking the buy price and subtracting it from the 14-day average price of the coin. Negative values here indicate buying coins above their base price and holding them – large negative values are often the signs of heavy oshicoining or spending large amounts of money at once.
- ‘Last Dividends’ is simple enough. It’s the dividend payout from 19.02.2022 dividends.
- ‘Wallet Appreciation’ is the increase in net worth caused by market inflation. Bigger wallets have coins that remained ‘passive’ throughout the entire week are neither bought nor sold; however, the market is trending upwards, and thus they increase in value over time slightly. It is harder to notice, but it has a massive impact as it makes up for roughly 1/4th of the total profits of higher-ranked players. It’s calculated by taking the 21-day average price of a coin one week ago and now, subtracting them, and then multiplying by the amount of ‘passive’ coins in the wallet for every coin. Naturally, if the market were trending downwards, we’d observe a wallet depreciation, loss in value.

>>18767908
>Trading Overview
Using the same data, this breaks down all ‘active’ trading profits into categories and sorts players by total trading profits from last week.
‘Trading Income’ is the basic difference between the buy and sell price of coins, ‘Trading Taxes’ are losses from buy/sell taxes in the two matching transactions. Taxes differ based on multicoin count. ‘Trading Profits’ is simply income minus taxes.
‘Invested Amount’ is the amount of money converted into coins by unmatched buys. ‘Investment Income’ composes of ‘Invested Profit’ plus ‘Investment Taxes’, it’s highlighted for consistency. ‘Investment Taxes’ are losses due to taxes associated with those transactions. In theory, 4.5% is the minimal investment taxes/invested amount ratio, while 45% is the maximal ratio, representing only 1x buys or only 10x buys. ‘Invested Profit’ is the difference between the price the coin was purchased at and its average price, minus taxes; you can consider it a forced sell of every coin bought during the week at the average price. Oshicoiners and high-ranked players, respectively, thrust themselves into buying coins above their average prices if they want to convert liquid into coins for long-term dividend profits.
As you can see, trading differentiates the players a lot. While total income was correlated mainly with rank, especially high on the leaderboard, trading easily differentiates between players who are close to one another.

>>18767933
>Dividends Overview
This section is meant to represent the long-term investment quality, represented by wallet composition. ‘Last Dividends’ displays the last dividends payout, ‘Average Net Worth’ is the average of daily net worth measured at 20:00 GMT+0 on every day pre-dividends, and ‘Approximate ROI %’ is ‘Last Dividends’ divided by ‘Average Net Worth’. The data is sorted from highest ‘Approximate ROI %’ to lowest. Since it is just an approximation and concerns a single payout, you should aim for being consistently high rather than always being on the top.
The ‘Dividends’ section of the Report is a work-in-progress and thus has some limitations: it is susceptible to price fluctuations and since it only takes into account the last dividends, it will favor oshicoiners of the top coin(s) over people with wallets that are better diversified for week-by-week stable dividend income.

>>18767948
> Income by Source
In this table, the total income of the past week was split into its core components, indicating how much every element contributed to the weekly profits. When a component brought losses, it was skipped so all components would sum up to 100%. This table is sorted by rank.
Higher-ranked players rely almost exclusively on dividends and wallet appreciation for profit. Trading has a maximum profitability cap associated with it since the number of trades you can make in a single cycle is limited. This is reinforced by the need to spend liquid to be able to hold coins that will generate profits over time in an exponential manner, stifling the profitability of trading higher-up.
On the other hand, trading can make over 50% of total income for lower-ranked players in the top 200. It remains the primary method of climbing since it heavily differentiates between players, while dividends are more or less the same percentage-wise.

That concludes the Returns Report. Are the results what you expected? Is there some functionality you’d want for us to implement? Feel free to discuss and give us feedback.

>>18767933
>Tri and Applesauce
The thinkpad is truly a horrifying enemy...

>>18768026
A suicide bomber, if you will.

>>18767933
>$69m trading income
Heh, the funny number
Thank you for the report!

>>18767933
Target-sama, I kneel...
I missed out on a shit ton of moons this last week so nice to see that I'm not a super big retard regardless.
>>18767948
When are you renaming this one to the easy mode report?

>>18768587
She'll stop being so good of a coin any day now...

>>18768636
You don't need to lie to my face directly.

>>18767948
>zhonk have better divvy percentage earnings than me

>they're still buying Mori
>on a sunday evening
>while she's at her peak numbers
>with a weekly subtick that will expire soon
>a coin that is well known to give zero (0) viewcount on weird days

>>18770017
Hi anon, can you tell this to an user called 'cypherposter'? Thanks.

>>18770017
She's a good coin anon

>>18770069
>>18770192
thanks for the money, dummies

>>18770017
Open up F.U.C.K and sort by Value on the MOVE data

>>18770261
Stay poor

>>18770291
t. guy who is 5 ranks below me

>>18770328
NTA, but stay poor.

>>18770286
Saved him the trouble.

buy octoina

>>18770286
what are you implying here?

>>18770017
t. poor

>>18770832
They're probably implying this.

>>18771104
Mori is 27% higher than her 14 day average. If you're telling me to buy her at a loss in exchange of cheap change that I can't even access untill saturday, you should re-evaluate your financial decisions

>>18771307
stay poor

>>18771307
>he doesn't have enough money to just buy coins until divs.
stay poor.

>>18771322
>>18771355
Nice FUD fags but I'm not buying it

>>18771322
>>18771355
stay poor

not even a fud. old money is cool

>>18771435
i meant weekly divs, not your monthly total.

>>18771546
that's my liquid, poorfriendchama

>>18771435
stay poor

>>18771723
damn can i have some

>>18771819
no stay poor

Hello!
I come with a useless report for you!

Here are the holders of ranks 20, 50, 100 and 200 and those in their vicinity!

The divvies have come but the week is still young! Do not waste your liquid, be sure to buy, roll, supa, bid, launder, gamble, groom, and bet responsibly! Remember that the market is currently heavily trending upwards, so what once felt like a bad deal may be a lot better than you initially assumed!

>>18771435
Is that your liquid, divs or net worth?
jk you're poor either way, post wallet

>>18771307
>he is unaware
This is your mind on averages. They are very useful, but don't let them become the new MPP.

>>18772680
nice FUD watameposter

>>18767908
>right behind pagibot
>didn't even give a shit
is this bot ponkotsu

https://youtube.com/channel/UCWsfcksUUpoEvhia0_ut0bA
Is the holostars channel included in the hololive coin views? And will we ever get holostar coins...

>>18773246
no and no

>>18773285
Less fren coins...

19th hour, enjoy, etc.

WELCOME -- TO HOUR NINETEEN
HOUR NINETEEN...
THE... NINETEENTH HOUR
IT'S NOT THE SEVENTEENTH HOUR
IT'S NOT THE... NINTH HOUR
IT'S HOUR NINETEEN
ONE... NINE...
A VERY... SPECIAL HOUR
IN THAT, HOUR NINETEEN, IS THE NINETEENTH HOUR, NOT... ANY OTHER HOUR
VERY FEW HOURS CAN CLAIM TO BE THE NINETEENTH HOUR
THIS HOUR... IS ONE OF THOSE HOURS
AND AS WE SIT HERE, ENJOYING THIS HOUR, THE NINETEENTH HOUR, LET'S SPARE A MOMENT, TO THINK OF THOSE HOURS THAT AREN'T QUITE THE NINETEENTH HOUR
HOUR EIGHTEEN... AND HOUR TWENTY

WELCOME TO THE NINETEENTH HOUR!

>>18773007
no but Im trying to make money here, not lose at dwindling returns. Have to diversify my portfolio since its relying too much on Mori and oshi

>>18773425
>19:00:00

>>18773427
>19:00:01

honk valentines was a week ago can we ungay the leaderboard now I'd like my cherry blossom back

>>18773460
The issue is that selling Mori right now at your net worth is the type of decision that will bite you in the ass 10 weeks into the future and will continue to do so until either she graduates or the game gets shut down. Sure, in the short-term it is the 'correct' choice, but the game at high-up the leaderboard relies heavily on long-term planning.

>>18773226
a bot is only as good as the person programming it

>>18773226
Fairly certain Pagi is mostly a day trader bot. You can see that Pagi performed exceptionally well in the trading overview. >>18767933

>>18773226
You should probably look at the trading report - income overview is ultimately correlated with net worth. On the income overview you can see Pagibot punching above its weight class, since its income rank is above the 'real' rank.
Pagibot earned 25.7x the amount you did from trading this week.

>>18773226
She may be a ponkotsu but she is also the most soulful bot the market has ever seen.

>>18773553
You will be gay and you will like it

>>18773553
Don't make me fuck you...

>>18774046
>she

>>18774177
pagi is a retard therefore its a she

>>18773624
The real issue is that if her "value" is 9% while 27% above her average, just immagine how high her value will be when she goes below (which she will, since brap cycle). Basically, you could argue it's better to hold or perhaps even sell and then multicoin a bit harder the next time she goes down. I have discovered a truly marvelous proof of this, which this post is too small to contain. In conclusion, lain poster is correct by sole virtue of posting lain.

>>18774206
by that logic everyone here is a girl

>>18774304
yes

>>18774304
Yeah, did you not know?

>>18774304

>>18774304
whats the issue with this logic

>>18774289
That assumes that you wouldn't already be buying her at that price when she goes below - opportunity cost. Realistically, selling her to rebuy her would mean having an 8x multicoin rather than 7x one.

>>18774289
>>18775111
I'll just add to my previous post: I think that she can be a sell, a hold, or a buy depending on your available liquid right now.

Like a bolt from the blue, it's time for the Numbers Review.
Data collected at Cycle 60.

Here's the R.I.C.H. report for today:
>Total Shares in circulation amount to 14,557,769, a 0.74% increase from yesterday's volume
>Average shares per coin is 234,803. There are 26 coins above this average.
>Calliope currently has the highest volume, at 1,128,404 shares, or 7.75% of market volume.
>Civia currently has the lowest volume, at 34,663 shares, or 0.24% of market volume.

Top 5 Volume Increases (of 44):
>Nana :: +6.7%
>Haato :: +6%
>Ayamy :: +5.1%
>Mumei :: +4.8%
>Iofi :: +4.5%

Top 5 Volume Decreases (of 18):
>Chloe :: -6.1%
>AZKi :: -4.6%
>Melfissa :: -3.6%
>Korone :: -2.9%
>Shion :: -2.5%

25 coins had a sub-1% change in volume today.


Here's the R.I.S.E. report for today:
>Starting Liquid is estimated at $169,170.35, which is an increase of 3.25% from yesterday's estimate.
>Total Market Value for today is $315,827,965,176.80, which is an increase of 5.65% from yesterday's Market Value.
>Average Value per Share is $21,694.81. A total of 18 coins are above this average.
>Calliope currently has the highest value, at $34,429,208,373.68 in total market value, or 10.9% of market value.
>Nana currently has the lowest value, at $222,152,296.12 in total market value, or 0.07% of market value.

Top 5 Value Gains (of 38):
>Chloe :: +51.4%
>Calliope :: +42.1%
>Ayame :: +40.7%
>Kiara :: +30.8%
>Shion :: +25.2%

Top 5 Value Losses (of 24):
>Ayamy :: -19.4%
>Aki :: -18.5%
>Luna :: -18%
>Kronii :: -16.3%
>Watame :: -12.2%

23 coins had a sub-1% change in value today.


Here's the F.R.E.E. report for today:
>Today's Superchats totaled to $133,796,529, which is a decrease of 79.47% from yesterday's Superchats.
>The Broker made $245,182,350.66 today, a decrease of 13.6% from yesterday's salary.

Top 5 Superchat Increases (of 20):
>IRyS :: +4%
>Subaru :: +3.4%
>Pekora & Iofi :: +3.1%
>Gura :: +2.1%
>Lui :: +1.4%


Here's the M.O.V.E. Report for today:
>6 coins (Civia, Okayu, Reine, Mio, Hololive, Calliope) adjusted green, but are still trending upwards.
>2 coins (IRyS, Nabi) adjusted red, but are still trending downwards.
>14 coins (Nana, Flare, Aqua, Pekora, Botan, Subaru, Nene, Lui, Marine, Ina'nis, Noel, Baelz, Pochimaru, Coco) adjusted red, but are now above their pre-adjustment value.
>1 coin (Towa) adjusted green, but is now below their pre-adjustment value.
>39 coins are on projected trend lines and have not intersected with their pre-adjustment values.

Top 5 Most Volatile Coins (per Hour Average):
>Chloe :: $801.53 Down
>Haato :: $515.83 Up
>Nana :: $410.31 Up
>Mumei :: $373.25 Up
>Nabi :: $309.68 Down

Top 5 Least Volatile Coins (per Hour Average):
>IRyS :: $0.04 Down
>Reine :: $0.27 Up
>Roboco :: $3.46 Down
>Pochimaru :: $3.77 Up
>Okayu :: $4.59 Up

Overall Average movement was $28.33 per hour.
Average Upwards movement was $98.79 per hour.
Average Downwards movement was -$143.92 per hour.

The Financial Underwriters of Comprehensive Knowledge would like to remind you to stay informed, shitpost responsibly, and FUD accurately.

>>18775111
My point is that selling to rebuy at x8 is better than just buying x7 in many cases.

>>18775754
I don't want to divulge my method, so name a price and I'll tell you if it's profitable to sell at 30k and rebuy at 8x instead of 7x. There's also a flaw in the average.

>>18773755
Pagi is meant to be a complete trader bot. Day trading is only a part of it. It also tries to have a better dividend ROI% than the average trader. The main issue as a programmer is balancing day trading and dividends.

However I don't see a way to improve Pagi without introducing extra unneeded risk. I did remove a lot of the wasteful spending in my last update which isn't really shown in this week's report.

I am not calling Pagi complete yet, but the end is within sight. Or the devs release a major update.

>>18775980
nta but how about marine. She's 30k+ and have a great history

>>18775430
>Top 5 Volume Increases
>Ayamy :: +5.1%
All me

>>18775980
I don't want to divulge my method either, and I don't need you to tell me if it's profitable or not. I am more than capable of doing the math myself. She needs to drop below $18.270 or 23.5% below average for it to be more profitable to sell now at $30,6k and buy x8 as opposed to hold and buy x7. And she adjusted to $14.053 yesterday, if I'm reading the charts correctly. So it'd be more appropriate to say: you should've bought x8 yesterday and sold today for a profit.

>>18777096
You are correct in your math here, but you need to consider: 1) again, the issue with the average, 2.) market movement, 3.) time frame of several weeks to months 4.) available liquid to spend and trade saturation/opportunity cost.
On paper, selling her is the 'correct' choice if trading were to be the only way of profit in the game, but you'll see that doing so runs into several problems in the long run. Trading profits are not scalable with wealth as they have an upper profit ceiling and diminishing returns, but dividends are exponential. Focusing solely on trading will leave you wheezing behind your competition two months down the line, trying to make up for 30-40 million more they make per week from accumulated superior wallet composition at similar net worth.
In other words, if you're someone who relies primarily on trading because they can afford it (especially newer players), sell. But there are good reasons to hold her or even buy her past a certain point, where converting money into coins becomes impossible without taking a loss either way.
This is the true solution for the $HOLO debate. Which, at the time, I was selling for the record.

>>18773427
Warning: Large Image Ahead
Good evening, welcome to the News Hour. This is your NASFAQ Market Report for Sunday, February 20th
server is getting uppity about a reboot

>>18767908
Report Rank =! Leaderboard Rank oh nyooo, Divs tanked oh nyooo, moving up in trading income kek

>>18777096
I'm not that other anon, but there is also just the fact that it is not possible to spend all of the money you get from trading if you trade purely with profits in mind. Right now I'm sitting on almost half a billion in liquid. 30% of my net worth is liquid that isn't doing anything. It is not possible for me to spend all of that intelligently, so I'm not going to. I'm going to do non-intelligent things with it, and further my gamestate in other ways beyond just pushing for optimal trades. Maybe that pays out in the long run, maybe it doesn't. I dunno. What I do know is that I am capable enough and insulated enough from my own mistakes in buying that the only real mistake I can make at this point is doing nothing, or generating more liquid that will also do nothing.

>>18767908
I did not day trade enough to offset my oshi's shit dividends

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I sold all my cali at a profit

>>18783099
>selling
OH NONONONONONONONO

>>18778141
You and I are arguing about completely different things, it appears. None of those issues you mentioned apply.
I'm saying that for whatever analysis you did that justified buying x7, it holds true that buying x8 and selling today is more optimal. Whether buying x7 was the most optimal choice in the first place and how you ended up with this number I don't know, nor care. I wasn't the one suggesting x7 so I won't be the one defending it either.
And all this is independent of any average, market movement or time frame. It may have an effect on and be affected by how much available liquid you have available but I'm afraid I'm not poor enough to trouble myself with such issues.
Also, you shouldn't say >the issue with the average, and not bother explaining what the perceived issue is. Specially when nothing I said is based on the use of averages themselves.
>>18779342
There's few people that get more in dividends than me, and even if you were one of them what I said should still apply for a good number of players. You being the exception doesn't really adds or subtracts anything from the argument.
>I'm sitting on almost half a billion in liquid
>30% of my net worth is liquid
Is your net worth around $1,6B? If so, you should try harder. You can absolutely spend that money. If not, do your math reps. More specifically, percentage reps.

C*lli
R*shia

>>18764993
Nothing said people who don't play the game anymore can't use the aggie

Perish through sage

oh no im dying

>>18787508
What did he mean by this

>18712718
How the fuck did he know

>>18712718
How the fuck did he know

>>18793413
>[Deleted]

>>18793413

>>18793481

What went wrong in September? Was it the inevitable result of compounding inflation or was it something else?

>>18795334
nothing wrong with inflation. game is built for inflation. i like inflation

>>18795334
EN2 exploded in price, bringing billions of dollars to the market and rapidly speeding up inflation

Die

>green day
>money goes up throughout the day
...huh?!

Night, /nasfaq/

pour one out for all the newhags dying on this fake dip minefield right now
i took off all my buys until adjustment theres not a single good trade left, its all fake

>>18775980
your method is gay just use y=x((value(1-0.03multibuy))-average)

>>18787296
The reason why I asked you to name a price is so you would see how extreme of a drop would need to happen for buying and selling at that multicoin to be equivalent. It has everything to do with available liquid and averages - I will leave you to think about that.
>It may have an effect on and be affected by how much available liquid you have available but I'm afraid I'm not poor enough to trouble myself with such issues.
If you aren't poor this is precisely why you should be concerned with such an issue. If you wish to convert coins into liquid, you would do so knowing that you can re-invest it at a profit, short-term or long-term.

Die

>>18801275

>>18800715
cool newhag tips, quick edition:
- every coin has a "base value" it tends to return to over time, ignore calli in this consideration
- trust your gut, especially if you're on limited funds (I'd consider anything under 500 coin movements a day "limited")
It's fine not to buy into everything.
- long-term plays making sense for limited wallets are few and far between, those dips are so rare people remember them by the coin (Rushia, Subaru, Kanata) but you will definitely notice them once they appear. Learn to read the activity tab in case you're unsure.
- NEVER "cut your losses" unless you did something extremely stupid like buying Civia (the local Ponzi-Coin)

>>18801791
no do cut your losses, theres crazy 50% dips every fucking day no point holding the bag on something that didnt undip from when you bought it

>>18800987
And why do you think I mentioned this
>And she adjusted to $14.053 yesterday
Solution: To show you that it's not as rare or as extreme of an occurrence as you may think. In fact, I'd say it's quite likely
>you should be concerned with such an issue
I don't see why. After all, I rarely if ever struggle with managing liquid. It'd be unwise to assume every player is facing the same set of problems as you.

>>18802111
In that drop and following historical volatility, you'd be able to buy about 60-70 coins of Mori sub-30k. If you want to liquidate at 30k, which would last basically the entire day, you're effectively funneling 2.1m - 2.4m away from a high-return coin to re-invest in low-return coins.
If you are who I think you are, you have a problem with long-term investments because you overly focus on the short-term, even if you do alright trading-wise. You would be wrong to think that I am someone who has issues managing liquid - quite the contrary, I just have my sights set on the biggest profits in the long timeframe.

>>18802048
if you have the time to put in the effort you can of course look out if the money you waste is less than you will make with the purchase you can do with that money, only makes sense if you can move all the coins in question but eventually everything will moon or go up.
Also depends on where we are in the week, I'd argue doing what you're saying makes more sense on Fridays.
Well, take it as a "I wouldn't, consider holding".

oh look, a Mori dip

>>18802962
The comfy crab club wasn't just a group of friends...

>>18803007
THEY ARE

>>18802283
I don't know who you are and I don't know who you think I am. As far as I'm concerned most people can't into math. It's just that simple. If you tell me what I'm doing is wrong but fail to provide proof in any form then I can only assume you either have no idea or are actively trying to fuck with me.
>you're effectively funneling 2.1m - 2.4m away
So, pocket change?
>high-return coin
>low-return coin
...
>you have a problem with long-term investments because you overly focus on the short-term, even if you do alright trading-wise
My strategy is dividends focused and I don't think I do well trading-wise, so there's nothing I can say here
>You would be wrong to think that I am someone who has issues managing liquid
Yet why would you then assume I have those issues?

>>18795334
Inflation means you're getting richer by face value

I love fucking money, bros!

Die

To page 11

die

>>18802809
Not entirely how that works. Mori can update whenever the hell she wants. She's also the reason the Excel sheet I use doesn't have a simple "DailyViews2-DailyViews1" but something more complicated

>>18806682
I'll be real with you, there are points in viewcount history when daily views don't add into the weekly views.

Good morning, I am buying Towa.

>WU
>Praying for good health for GF
>She releases a no rest stream schedule
Jesse! Also 3 ASMR streams on the week, maybe one of them is a members ASMR.

numbers

>>18808485
You're not them. I miss them...

>adjustments soon
>bowels crying
fucking clockwork

>>18809209

>Our system thinks this post is spam
Ohhh Konnui

Ohhhhhhh I have to go cum

ohhhhhh i need to shit

>Sold right before adjustments
I won.

Pagi!

>Didn't get the pre-adjustment values
No Morning Review. Pre-adjustment data will be up in a couple of hours, probably.

post 'em

>>18809326

>>18810068
Predicted trajectory in red.

>>18810068

See you space traders.

Just in time. I saw Tako Instruments hit 9k the other day and had to commit to hitting the mark first.

good morning. everybody x10 mori

>>18810269
congratulations!!!!

>>18810269
omedetou!

>>18810269

OHHHHHHHHHHHH I'M GONNA SPEND

>>18810388
>buying 1x Gura
fuck. that was supposed to be selling...

>>18810388
understandable pick but REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>18810442
I won't have her at 10x for long.

>>18810493
can't be mad at hagchads 10x-ing Botan

rate my wallet, kaichou

>>18810388
how the hell are you spending that much?

>>18810269

>>18810388
OHHHH IM SPENDINGGGG

>>18810269
Grats mr magician! I'm still far away...

a friendly reminder that vt league 2 tactical deadline is in 4 days.

>>18811088
Surely our manager has been working on it and is no longer get 10-0'd a match in testing,

>>18810269
Congratulations!

>>18810388

>>18810388

Some people say that the 3% tax on selling is waived on a 1-sell, but there is nothing in info to indicate this. Is this the case? And is 4.5% tax levied on a 1-buy?

Like a glint from the blue, here's a quick Morning Review.
That took less time than I thought it would.

Top 3 Upwards Adjustments (of 19)
>Marine :: $13,811.91
>Flare :: $13,638.60
>Hololive :: $10,549.63

Top 3 Downwards Adjustments (of 43)
>Calliope :: -$15,256.29
>Miko :: -$10,139.42
>Subaru :: -$8,313.05

Overall Average Adjustment is -$613.84
Average Upward Adjustment is $3,398.30
Average Downward Adjustment is -$2,386.64

You guys ever notice how adjustments always average in the red, but the market still goes up? That's players with buying power, babyee.

Don't get baited, pick up some good deals, and keep an eye on Mori.

>>18811394
Honk said it here when the changes were made. You'd have to get someone to pull the posts up or find it yourself, sadly.

>>18811394
yes

>>18811394
Did you think I made this 24-pt font as a prank, or...?

>>18811394
>>16566866
>>16568548
open wide

>>18811532
tbf it doesn't say it on the actual site at all as far as i can see

>>18811633
you can test it yourself, try not buying any coin for 1 cycle and see if your credits go down

>>18811426
That's the power of Overbought.

>>18811426
>adjustments always average in the red, but the market still goes up
The old moneys have too much liquid

>>18811426
>>18811801
so can >we confirm that zhonk phase out overbuying?

honk please reset the benchmark leaderboard to weekly change and not their all time change. I want to see actual players and not dead alts

>>18814023
It's not phased out, but it's not strong enough to offset how much people can invest. This has pretty much always been the case, though, which is why they were looking at ways to get people to burn liquid elsewhere and cut down on dividend returns.

New bread doko