/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

women need to have their appearance validated as much as possible, otherwise they'll have a breakdown

>>18797796
Take your meds.

>>18797796
most women can only go so long without compliments about their looks from strangers. they need it for their mental health

>>18797796
>women
>not fishing for compliments
It’s a win-win for them if they aren’t a gorillion pounds.

>>18797796
>ruining their following
Citations needed

If you don't post face, you're ugly, simple as

>>18797796
Vtuber culture doesn't exist in the west.

>>18798239
Just like idol culture. There's a reason why maid cafes don't exist in the west. Except for one abomination that utterly failed and should never be mentioned.

>>18797796
What is it with 4chan males being miserable and just looking for stuff to hate?

>>18798239
Yes it does. Besides, you're a western, you have no voice or opinion on what is and isn't vtuber culture.

So what you're trying to tell me, is that having the face of the voice actor known is only fine when doxxfags are behind it? Is that it? I remember when Lumi did it bc she was gonna attend a physical meetup anyway, there was no issue whit that, idk why froot would, but i suppose it's better having your curated pictures going around instead of unflattering shots.

You will never be a real vtuber. You have no talent, you have no personality, you have no work ethic. You are a western normalfag baited by popularity into a parody of actual vtubers. All the support you get is from other Vtweeters. Behind your back weebs mock you. The few normal ENVtubers are disgusted and ashamed of you. Audiences laugh at your face reveal you claim to be not for validation. Even if you manage to get a following, they will run away from your toxic personality and constant tweets about drama. You will never succeed at streaming. You will always be know as a Vtweeter. Eventually you will stop streaming and stay on Twitter forever. And all that will remain of your legacy is a Twitch account with less followers than your Twitter account. This is your fate, this is what you chose, there is no turning back.

>>18798322
>There's a reason why maid cafes don't exist in the west
Yeah because we have a shred of dignity left

>>18797796
pretty predictable;
https://twitter.com/LichVtuber/status/1441917207353561088

>>18798357
Its a pointless male thing; you wouldnt understand, roastie

>You will never be a real vtuber. You have no talent, you have no personality, you have no work ethic. You are a western normalfag baited by popularity into a parody of actual vtubers. All the support you get is from other Vtweeters. Behind your back weebs mock you. The few normal ENVtubers are disgusted and ashamed of you. Audiences laugh at your face reveal you claim to be not for validation. Even if you manage to get a following, they will run away from your toxic personality and constant tweets about drama. You will never succeed at streaming. You will always be know as a Vtweeter. Eventually you will stop streaming and stay on Twitter forever. And all that will remain of your legacy is a Twitch account with less followers than your Twitter account. This is your fate, this is what you chose, there is no turning back.

>>18798378
lumi is also a talented cosplayer though. its a bit different. froot just posted selfies for no reason other than she maybe looked in the mirror and thought she was getting fatter so wanted to feel good

>>18798322
you're right anon, Hooters is so much more respectable.

>>18798378
Froot also fucks anything with a dick who compliments her (see exboyfriend) she still wont fuck you though

>>18797796
>the west trying to """"fix"""" something successful and lucrative that Japan made popular
Oh no, I'm shocked! SHOCKED!

>>18797796
>She cheats on her boyfriend
Does that mean we have a chance?

>>18798365
>You're an Eastern you have no voice or opinion on what is and isn't animation.
Sorry bro. You stole animation from us and we're stealing vtubers from you.

>>18798456
You don't know that. I don't really follow froot so idk if it's the culmination of some campaign against this taboo about the face behind the avatar, but it's not like if she posts it MUST be for validation. As i said before, maybe she just wanted to doxx herself before others do it worse (aside from the miriad of filters on those pics, she's also perfectly facing forward to hide her nose)

It highlights those who have no love of the medium, this is simply them riding the bandwagon until they find the next one.

>>18798437
I'm a male, I don't seek out things to pointlessly hate

>>18798644
But anon I AM her boyfriend

>>18797796
> "NUUUUHHHH MY VTUBER WAIFUS ARE REAL ANON, REAL. THEY ARE NOT REAL PEOPLE, THEY LITERALLY ARE THEIR AVATAR"

Take your fucking meds schizo

>>18798773
no, she did it for validation for sure.
she made another tweet saying she was going to delete it, but that she wont because it got 50k likes. and if she did it to make "better" dox pics in circulation, that it also still for validation you dimwit.

>>18798787
Because you are a neutered faggot

Create one account for your virtual persona
Then one for your real life self!
It's not fucking rocket science! Plenty of other vtubers already do that! You can have multiple identities on the internet! Fucking computer literacy 101!

>>18798872
what you are doing here is called projecting, why dont you take your own meds instead of trying to give them away to strangers online?

>>18798322
>here's a reason why maid cafes don't exist in the west
Different coffee and cafe cultures?

>>18797846
If women had to live like men where you get 0 compliments, 0 hugs, 0 affection whatsoever, they would all mass suicide.

>>18798872
>imagine not being able to read at this age
Go back to school anon, its never too late. Oh sorry I forgot you can't even read this

>>18797796
The same standard doesn't apply because western culture is very different than japanese. People get confused because we're still in the early stages of globalization.

Anyways, she's a really cute girl so I don't blame her. Also stop blaming people for mistakes they made in the past, especially a stranger's private issues that you don't really know anything about. I figure the people that shit on Froot for her past are the same ones that give Nyanners shit. Bitter.

>>18798875
Yeah but what's the issue at hand? Let's assume that you are correct, that she is doing it for validation. On your end, is it not the same as when she posts a picture of her cute avatar? Isn't that fishing for compliments as well, in a way? You could argue that she doesn't get as great of an ego boost and i'd agree, but that still doesn't change shit on your end. What's the grudge?

>>18797796
vshojo whore what do you expect?

>>18797796
>ruining their following
only simps watch vshitshow, if anything they see the face reveals as a plus

>>18799030
The Nyanners shit is a little more understandable, because newfags obviously don't know how lolifags react to Nyanners' accusations.
Froot's haters are just fucking weird. As I said before, it is very bitter incels/yellow fever faggots that hate women for any reason, or because they were autistic children that can't get over how their runescape "gf" cheated on them. Because who else would call her a whore for roleplaying with another fag while roleplaying with one fag.

I want to fuck Froot while her husband sits in the corner watching and crying.

Incel thread with delusional m*les as always. Next.

>>18799050
people follow vtubers (not froot, since vshojos dont follow vtuber culture) for the vtuber, not the person behind it. on my end, no its completely different. posting a vtuber picture is entertainment, not "fishing for compliments".
she does not get ego boosts of any kind from her vtuber persona, other than for her art skills.
I dont know why you are asking questions you can answer yourself if you think for one second retard. the grudge is I dont like vshojo and I wish they didnt exist, im not seething or crying over it, I just dont like them and im posting negatively about them on 4chan. what is your grudge with me doing that?

>>18799224
I have no grudge with that, in fact unlike you i'm not being rude... I just like to hear what people have to say, especially here on 4chan since there are no filters

>>18799224
This worthless African really typed out an entire fucking paragraph. Go kill yourself.

>>18799103
true that. but it sparked a lot of 2views and independents to do so as well

>>18799449
ok I will kill myself thank you :)

>>18799224
You're an autistic fuck.
Vshojo are vtubers regardless of how much you bitch about it. NTA, but you can spend your time seething over them all you want, but I don't get this fucking hypocrite retardation faggots like you spew over chuubas showing faces, when japs show them in roommate accounts
>but they're different accounts!
So? Any retard can do a very quick google search and see pics, in fact, your precious japs have a fucking website dedicated to that shit. If the company they are under is okay with it, be that posting their face in official accounts or roommate accounts, and the chuuba is okay with it too, you're shit outta luck, faggot.
But you would be Ken-sama pillowbiting fagnuts just can't make up your mind firmly, and shit is always okay when japs do it.
TL;DR - kill yourself.

>>18799557

>>18799557
I didnt say vshojo are not vtubers retard. I said they dont follow vtuber culture which they dont.
being different accounts is entirely the fucking point you mongoloid, if I wanted to see them irl I would follow the roommate accounts. I dont want to see their dumb makeup or whatever they keep trying to show off every day.
what is the point of your post anyway? you are mad because your oshi is ugly and projecting? lol. I dont know why you have to be mad about that sir but im sorry about it.
btw, you should be a ghostwriter for moist critical, I like how you make up funny insults. fuck you buttslug chode licker!!

>>18798083
>"I don't drink water because I'm thirsty, I drink water because it feels good!"
It feels good because you're thirsty you stupid bitch.
God I hate thots, where's the thot patrol when you need it?

>>18799729
Concession accepted you semen-slurping faggot.

>>18799758
>I don' want to see their dumb makeup or whatever they keep trying to show off ever day
If this were true, you wouldn't fucking follow them on Twitter in the first place you fucking mouthbreather.

>>18799841
are you retarded? I just said specifically I DO NOT follow their roommate accounts on twitter. did you hit your head recently?

>>18799557
Explain to me how posting photoshopped selfies on Twitter ties into her lore of being a witch or whatever the fuck she is.

>>18798450

>>18799758
>I didnt say vshojo are not vtubers retard. I said they dont follow vtuber culture which they dont
That's arguable. Isn't Idol culture defined by what idols are and do? Is it not an evershifting concept, not unlike a cult, a religion, or a political leaning? Trying to set down rails and pretending that everyone runs on them is beyond foolishness, anon. Just because they do not appeal to you, it doesn't mean that they're doing something "wrong"...

>>18799861
You wouldn't follow ANY Twitter account you fucking retard. What did you not get? Their content is either on Youtube or Twitch. If you JUST cared about the chuuba, you'd keep your sorry faggot ass there and nowhere else.

>>18799777
There was no argument in the first place

>>18799958
Yes, I can believe this coming from a retard like you that can't parse English.

>>18799933
oh my god you are so annoying idiot. go to twitter and look at hololive twitter accounts. then look at 2view/vshoho twitter accounts. see the difference. if you cant see the difference, then fine, I will just explain it in a way you can understand: they are different and appeal to different people, so I like them, and you dont.
some holo's blog a lot sure, but always in character, before you argue and try to cite ame's twitter.

>>18799996
There's nothing wrong with his post though?

>>18799996
I know you studied english very hard, using full grammar and try to use big and confusing words, but I know that is you mr zhang. please calm down or you will need to take more tiger penis dust for your blood pressure.

>>18799996
>Projecting this much

>>18800021
Same shit. Both are instances of you giving a shit about the person behind the screen if you feel the need to follow their activities outside of the stream. No person in vtubing, you fucking deformed animal, is just fucking kayfabe all the time. That is unrealistic. And again, if japs respected vtuber culture as much as you say they do, why would they have a dedicated doxing website?
If you like pic related makes you seethe, you're the weird one out retard. Not the other way around.

>>18798893
>you're a faggot for not hating things and being miserable!!!

>>18798365
A-are you gatekeeping vtuber culture as a western..?

>>18800240
>If you like pic related makes you seethe,
careful zhang cracks are starting to show...
oh you are right, she is totally not keyfabing. you are so right. especially when she says "yes i am still an idol"

>>18798955
Good looking, neurotypical men get plenty of female affection though

>>18800322
>a typo is his argument
You really should try zhang cock so they stop living rent-free in your mentally ill head.
But thanks for replying without an argument and an empty ad hominem to let me know how much it makes you seethe you can't counter what I said.

>>18798422
>not a single one is worth saving to masturbate to
Every time.

>>18800398
I did counter what you said though. read past my post after I pointed out your typo

>>18798365
>I disagree with you you must be western!!11!1!
Nice guess retard, too bad you're wrong.

>>18800425
How are periods and going to bathroom part of a virtual idol's kayfabe? Especially when the company of that idol insists of saying "idol meeting" to mean using the shitter?

>>18800504
hahaha o my god he just admitted hes a zhang hahahaa
>>18800514
I will just refer you to my previous post >>18800021 where I stated that yes some do blog. and nothing wrong with that. although I should have specified "ame or others" so you did not make this conversation mistake :)

>>18800560
>hahaha o my god he just admitted hes a zhang hahahaa
Do you people know no geography? There are places on earth other than America, China and Japan.

>>18800627
ogey zhang

>>18799152
The one she cheated on? Yeah he's used to it

>>18800560
And thus you prove my fucking point
>OKAY, some DO blog but is okay because I like their company
You're a fucking retarded hypocrite and I called you out on it. Its okay when Hololive does it, it's not when Vshojo does it. Why lie to yourself? I know you're mentally ill, you know you're mentally ill. No need for this charade.

>>18800670
nice strawman retard, my whole point in the first place is about posting selfies. deflecting into blogging was your idea

I think it is stupid … more doxxfags will be encuraged by this ethot

Roasties wouldn't even bother with vtubing if there wasn't a culture to subvert.

>>18800240
Indogs were a mistake.

>>18797796
Just make a tribute to anyone that face reveals and they'll stop in a hurry.

>>18800839
you dont know? women actually love tributes. they just pretend they dont to secretly manipulate more guys to do it to "own" them, but they in actuality get off to it

>>18800697
How is face-posting not blogging? They're not doing that shit on Instagram, they're using Twitter.
You also could not counter my point about the hypocrisy regarding roommate accounts, because of how easy they are to find and put a name to the face. You also couldn't counter why you don't consider this "vtuber culture" if a chuuba is a employed with a company that lets them post their face in official or alternate channels. Like honestly, let's be real here: do you think Cover is unaware of the shit Noel, Matsuri, Towa and Mori do? About the fact these women have a life outside of vtubing?

>>18800865
>the hypocrisy regarding roommate accounts
what hypocrisy? they are human beings, they might have social media. if you want to go look at them thats your fault and your problem
>why you don't consider this "vtuber culture"
because japanese culture distances the person behind the chuuba from the chuuba. in general. there are exceptions but not many jp's have ever posted straight selfies on their twitters.
>Like honestly, let's be real here: do you think Cover is unaware of the shit Noel, Matsuri, Towa and Mori do? About the fact these women have a life outside of vtubing?
you sound like a stalker doxxer and an incel rn. yes they have lives, and they are also chuubas. it doesnt mean they post selfies on their chuuba accounts does it.
you are more fun when you make funny insults like moist criical please do it again :)

>>18800865
Theres a fucking difference between someone talking about a visit to the doctor and how that person is doing and "heres my face am i cute uwu"
There is no point of vtubing if you show your real face.

>>18800755
Disagree, people that care about what they look like will care regardless, and posting a face isn't doxxing. No way to tell how old or how recent the pics they upload are, plus they do so at their own risk. Yet nearly every single fucking vtuber I know of claims to be a shy shut in girl that finds her voice behind her avatar, meaning they have little to worry about because they don't go out often and are in-door introverts.

https://twitter.com/VexTheSunEater

>>18801002
forgot the message, but we got another one

>>18801002
wow, people used to joke about a face reveal trend and now its real. its like they are succeeding in watering down vtubing culture to nothing. damn....

Wait, wasn't Froot afraid, shaking and whatever the fuck else when Nux made that video about the doxxers? Why the fuck would she do it willingly then?

>>18801090
she just became very Strong and Brave. how dare you criticise her for it!!

>>18800970
>There is no point of vtubing if you show your real face.
It's called not having to make yourself presentable for a webcam or they're just too average looking to make it as a facecam streamer.

>>18799768
drink more water

>>18800947
Got it, so you can't counter why Cover allows talents to post their face elsewhere knowing how easily accessible this data is to people, and you say Jap culture distances the person behind the vtuber from the vtuber itself, when a vtuber is more than just their kayfabe and the person behind the avatar is more and more evident as time goes on.
Your retardation also is countered by the simple fact gachikoi exist and cannot/do not distinguish between the avatar and the person.
Still obsessed with posting faces on the main account when I'm talking about how easy faces are to find in general, another cope.
I'd hate to be a fucking retarded faggot like you that has to use smiley faces to feel he made a point lmao.
>>18800970
Yes there is. Entertaining people. In fact, if anything this conversation has shown me you and your faggot friend I just replied to are the ones with the issue as it is YOU TWO that can't handle seeing a chuuba's face.

>>18801155
>he felt for propaganda by the bottle industry
lmao

Im going to spam every vShojo chat for 'face reveal when? Froot did it'

>>18801179
sorry, but not everyone is a doxfag like you. seriously. you can gachi a chuuba without knowing what she looks like you fucking retard, I think you really need to seek mental help because your thought processes seem like they are insane to me.
for example, I dont even know what my oshi looks like. I never want to know, i never looked it up, and I dont care. :)

>>18801155
I don't need to because I'm not some perma-thirsty thot with daddy issues.

>>18801232
>moving the goalpost
>AGAIN
>smiley
>AGAIN
lmao
Congrats anon, I do not believe I meet retards like you often who pretend a chuuba is so divorced from a real person they deny the person seeps through the avatar at times. And yes, I imagine cogent thoughts seem insane to fucking pants-on-head retards like you, but don't worry, I think only death will release you from the grip of your deluded mind. And of course, you yet again prove my point that the issue of faces is one you have.
I never said people that don't need to know what a chuuba look-like exist. That is not our topic. Our topics are faces and "vtuber-culture" which you could not define, which I proved japs do not follow what you'd describe as chuuba culture and which the companies empoying chuubas do not seem to mind.
Also funny how you totally do not care about the person behind the avatar but use Twitter; I don't, I also don't know what my oshi looks like and have no interaction with her outside Youtube, but if I saw her face or see another chuuba's face I don't have a fucking meltdown over it.

>>18801549
oh my god why are you still talking? go back to your dox discord fucking retard. you are seriously annoying
no hololive chuuba has ever posted selfies on their main twitter. your mistake is thinking everyone is like you and seeks out dox photos. they do not. you are just especially mentally ill and obsessive, like everyone else in your dox discords. if anyone is moving the goalposts, its you because you have been seething for the last 2 hours because I dont care what they look like behind the chuuba. you cant handle it because your brain is faulty.
and not liking smileys is another big sign of a redditor. discord or reddit, I dont care, just please go back because you are so annoying to me. thank you :)

>>18798322
Because western women are terrible at actually wanting to look and act feminine?

>>18800627
Yeah they call it SEA.

>>18800992

Are you somewhat dumb? This froot ethot can do what ever But when she Uses a vtuber Avatar she should Not Reveal her Face because when an erhot like her reveals her Face .. other doxxfags feel encuraged to doxx other vtubers who don’t Want to Show their Face

>>18801671
>replying just to let me know he is seething
"Omg my esl ass do not likey this, pls go away sir"
That's how you exist huh, wishing your troubles away? Pathetic.

This thread is real sweaty. Smell it.

>>18801828
Stop, you'll attract /ringo/

I have yet to wrap my head around the reason why ESL is used as an insult here on 4chan, why the hell would someone be proud to be a native anglo speaker, this tongue is mumblecore ramblings at its best...

>>18801749
No, that's mere conjecture from your part. Froot is as much a vtuber as any other, and as much an eThot as any other girl on the internet.
Looking up a chuuba's face is easy, they doxx themselves faggot. If you mean people will doxx here, then doubtful. Bannable offense and anyone that cares about that shit does it on their own.

>>18801179
> Cover allows talents to post their face elsewhere knowing how easily accessible this data is to people
of course the data is easily accessible its all public and posted on social media. The only reason its so “easily accessible” is because of doxfags who constantly post that shit shit all over YouTube until it winds up in your recommended. Its not like the talents link their roommate accounts in their bio and no one within Cover is actively encouraging you to seek out this information. Theres a big difference between choosing to break the illusion of the character by seeking out information on your own and the creator just outright posting selfies of herself on her vtuber account.

>>18801090
If she does it herself she has control over it, no drama

can't wait for this to backfire in these thots
ah who am i kidding, whoever watches non jp vtubers probably doesn't care about vtubing culture in the first place and will just simp for these whores even harder, someone nuke west already

>>18800390
Not without putting in any effort. Men have to actively pursue women in order to get any kind of affection/complements regularly. Because men are always pursuing, women are more likely to receive complements and affection without doing anything at all and become conditioned to believe that they are always entitled to receive validation without putting in much effort other than not looking like a slob. Truly a vicious cycle.

>>18801900
An insult is an insult because it insults people, anon. Facts have little bearing on that.

>>18801916
My feed is full of vtuber shit and not once have I gotten a dox rec. Chuubas have cross over audiences. Many were content creator of some kind before. Bad cope
>>18802000
t.

>>18801940
She especially has control on the heavy filters. Seriously, have you looked at her face? It almost looks like from a comic book.

>>18802097
You probably don’t know hololive historian then newfag. It happened to me and it’s happened to everybody else in the comment sections of those videos. Youtube will recommend you that type of content if it matches your watch history and has enough engagement. Im not saying it happens to everyone 100% of the time but it does occur. Your anecdotal evidence is bullshit.
>Chuubas have cross over audiences. Many were content creator of some kind before. Bad cope
In terms of major corpos like hololive and nijisanji most were literal whos in their past lives and the only people who figure that out/care at all are doxfags /here/

>>18797796
Vshojo are not vtubers. They fundamentally misunderstand the purpose of vtubers.

>>18802273
ignore that poster, they already admitted to being a doxfag now backtrack to say they arent. they also have been samefagging about the ESL comments. his country has really bad mental health services please understand :(

>>18801907
Froot and vshoufu are really useful, huh? You can really tell who has an actual appreciation for vtubing as an entertainment form divorced from tradition streaming by asking whether they're vtubers or not! Vshoufu are just twitch whores with an anime veneer, and still mired in the usual twitch bullshit such as self-obsession and all the other unsavory habits you'd expect from them, while vtubers treat vtubing as a respectable entertainment form and focus more on the entertainment itself, such as music, new content creation, etc. rather than themselves, generally trying to separate themselves from the cancerous aspects of streaming that western streamers accept.
Really neat-o
vshoufu are vtubers in name only, and you trying to claim anything else just outs you as a tourist. Now fuck off, I bet your prostitute(girlfriend) is waiting for you to pick her up from her latest John's place.

>>18802097
>My feed is full of vtuber shit and not once have I gotten a dox rec.
nta but I got plenty of dox and PL shit that appear in my rec regularly, so these days it calmed down since they banned hololive historian. Also I agree with the other poster that holo and niji take better care to separate their identities than vshojo where you have Vei and Froot just straight up posting their faces and saying they don't give a shit. To me it's clear vshojo has a very different culture compared to other corpos. I'm willing to bet that soon they try streaming with their real face because they need that sweet sweet validation, hence the "I'm hot" comment from that other dumb bitch.

>>18797796
What I don't get is when they do this how I am the bad guy for seeing them as a character and that image being ruined when they face reveal. I know there is a person behind it but they also did establish a character for their streams and face reveals tear that whole thing down and ruin it. I refuse to support someone who can't stick with what they started.

>>18802318
Sad! Many such cases

>>18802348
>I'm willing to bet that soon they try streaming with their real face because they need that sweet sweet validation,
We’re going to have hybrid 3DPD chuubas soon…

>>18802345
>has cuck fantasies
Your autistic drivel disproves nothing, btw

>>18802456
This is Ksons fault AGAIN

>>18802507
Cant believe the bugs were right all along

>>18802507
The other thots would have probably still done it even if kson didn't.
But yeah kson doing it doesn't help.

>>18802273
>newfag
Lmao. I know the channel exists. I don't get recs for it and am willing to bet he gets views out of interest more than of recs. You aren't making any good points, anon. Doxxfags are gonna doxx regardless of what chuubas do. If chuubas wanna post their face its on them.

>>18802234
Lel i wont argue on this, those pics are curated as fuck

>>18802498
>can't even try to put of a counter argument
>no u
lmao

>>18803417
big jahy is infinitely superior

>>18802917
>Doxxfags are gonna doxx regardless of what chuubas do. If chuubas wanna post their face its on them.
isn’t this what i said from the beginning, im not making any good points but you’re regurgitating exactly what i just fucking told you. You tried to argue that chuubas posting face doesn’t matter because that information was “easily accessible” however we now both have stated that this is only true for hololive talents because of doxx posters and not because they willingly are posting/linking selfies on their main accounts. Idc how thirsty the vshojo whores are for attention but you should at least acknowledge that theres a clear difference between the culture in that community compared to more traditional vtuber companies like hololive and nijisanji. Froot posting selfies on her main account is not normal for vtubers and completely goes against the original concept of vtubers using a virtual avatar. Theres a reason it hasn’t happened yet until this new wave of western chuubas caught onto it and decided to completely change the entire concept and then claim it was like this from the beginning. Why is it so difficult to acknowledge this difference? Why do you insist on claiming that vtubers have been intentionally doxxing themselves since the beginning?

>>18802095
Nah. I get compliments regularly just by being in public for having nice hair. It’s not that hard, you just have to stand out positively.
Of course, it’s still harder than it is for women. But they don’t get recognised for their work in exchange.

https://twitter.com/mintyyukime/status/1495474507192090627?s=21

Have another

>>18799148
I'd take Nyanners over Froot anyway. Her hate is mostly from bitter pedos and bandwagoning newfags, while Froot is a literal whore. Yes I think Nyanners is retarded no I do not have a problem with 2D lolis but at least she didn't cheat on her husband while he's on tour. It's not even comparable, it's not meme cucklordry /vt/ throws at everything, it's the real fucking deal. Christ, what a whore.

>>18798083
Woah the vanity in this post. And the belittling of other vtubers that look at things differently. Talk about narrow minded. Yuck.