/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>18675082
vtube.life doesn't work(?)

NIJI GOLD
>NIJI GOLD
NIJI GOLD
>NIJI GOLD

>>18675597
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tr1eLcTBy1A

You might be right

Collab opened to a 11k waiting room. I think it beats 30k but not 40k.
>PREDICTIONS!?

>>18676624
30k yea

Tough slot for Matsuri. Haachama was smart and got her stream out before the collab

>>18676791
reine..........

>11m 25k
HOLO GOLD!!

>>18676791
What is she even playing?

>>18676624
No more than 35k

>>18676791
Matuli... I just checked haachama's graph and the growth was actually pretty fucking good given her previous numbers and the overlap, only slightly short of 5k but still pretty good
I wouldn't have expected her to break 2.5k

Migo end the stream and advertise the collab to your 35p

>18676772
right now he is showing dms from 2018 that pretty much debunk the same items in the apartment rrat if these dms can be believed. Miichan apologizing for buying similar items to mafumafu lol.

>>18676843
Not enough for today Gold.

>>18675597
THIS WILL NOT SLIP!!!

>>18676624
Overlap once 10pm comes around is going to blunt it.

koyori 30k

>>18676903
What was fuwa's number?

>>18676902
oh god

>>18676940
47k.

>>18676902
is he throwing her under the bus?

>>18676940
47k

>>18676902
i can't believe it took him this long to find someone who can photoshop their dms

>>18676902
So, what anyone reasonable could tell already? Like Christ it's just dramafags that insisted they HAD to be the same place instead of (her) being a tad bit obsessed and/or being unfortunately in sync.

>>18676949
>>18676963
He’s likely denying the most damning charge, that they “cohabit”.

>>18676963
He says he asked her about showing this stuff.

>>18676963
If these are to be believed it is very much taking pressure off of rushia.

>>18676624
Between this and the totsumachi she did the moment collab ban ended, it's safe to assume that she's the leech of holox right?

>>18676963
mafu only makes this worse, only showing 2018 dm but absolutely refuses to show Discord dm

>>18676902
Why would he even do that? Shit's almost water under the bridge already

There is no justice in this world.

>>18676902
>>18676949
>>18676963
>>18676992
>>18676994
>>18677094
>>18677099
This is the numbers thread not the drama thread. Fuck of out of here faggots.

>>18677094
>Discord
Rushia said she will show the discord dms

>>18677061
It's the opposite, it makes it worse for rushia when it was his fault to DM during a fucking stream in the first place. Also this >>18677099

>>18677094
Yeah, his reaction to getting asked about the discord really made him look like a retard. Why was he not prepared for that.

Nice numbers, niggers.

NIJI GOLD
NIJI EN GOLD
>NIJI GOLD
>NIJI EN GOLD
NIJI GOLD
NIJI EN GOLD
>NIJI GOLD
>NIJI EN GOLD

>>18677120
Something that could potentially be a career ender or crippler for one of Hololive's biggest talents is, unfortunately numbers related

mafu is a fucking retard. Cover's response and Rushia's following response were more than satisfactory and did a lot to quell the pressure. mafu on the other hand is digging everything back up by being a fuck up.

I seriously kneel to the mafumafu schizo. I've never seen a schizo validated so much before.

>>18677189
It's mostly people complaining it's not dramatic enough and them trying to spawn more drama off of it. That isn't related to this thread.

>>18677127
Really? Holy shit, think of the numbers when she comes back and does a stream where she shows her dms with mafumafu. She could pull this off.

>>18677216
All the plastic surgery to make him look like an alien reduced the size of his brain and made it more smooth.

Koyorin is stalling out, might get 40k but not much more than that unless something hype happens.

>>18677189
I fucking hate that money grubbing cunt but if you think she's gonna graduate over this, you're beyond delusional. Her orbiters have already forgiven her, her coworkers are on her side and Cover sure as hell would try their best to not let her go.

>>18677183
>Niji EN Gold
Do they have anything lined up? I can't see EN Gold not being Mori with a lineup like that.

>>18677271
Why so angry? What did she do to you anon?

>>18677308
Vox got the turbo fujo bait thumbnail and it's Saturday

>>18677271
Rushia is dumb,but if she graduates for this shit people will burn Cover down.

>>18677348
Mori English lesson collab
EN gold

Chloe is maximizing that sufferkino, her fans must be severely blueballed waiting to jizz their money all over her

>>18677183
>NIJI EN GOLD
??? Bae is currently leading in EN and Calli has large collab incoming.

koyorin 40k, not gonna beat fuwa like at all, but having 2 +40ks in the podium is nice considering most of this week

are we in slip territory or not enough time?

Imagine discussing EN gold seriously..

>>18677348
Calli has Marine, Fubuki and Ina. I'm expecting 30k even with Calli debuff

>>18677469
Nobody cares about your feelings. I'll discuss what I want. Fuck off.

>>18677348
He always has the fujo bait thumbnail anon, that's fucking meaningless.

>>18677458
It's unlikely but not impossible

>>18677267
Koyori 41k GET!

>>18676722
>>18676851
wrong,try again

>>18677484
And Chink spam debuff

>>18677469
Luxiem making it competitive on EN side

>>18677518
Still climbing, but it's slowed quite a bit.

>>18677518
No more than 45k

>>18677523
zhangs are a buff because somehow youtube don't count them as bots lmao

>>18677532
I'd use interesting as opposed to competitive. Hololive is still largely dominating the February daily gold totals but Luxiem has certainly made the races more interesting since they have shown they can take it when HoloEN has a weak day. The NijiEN girls never even bothered showing up most of the time.

>>18677516
Yeah, a couple of times youtube has tried to plateau koyorin's graph but then it's inclined again.

A-Anons!?

>>18677595
Chloe is nearing the top again

>>18677574
Graph looks good to me though, no sudden dips or a jagged graph

>>18677595
IT WILL NOT SLIP!!! AAAAAAAA

>>18677518
10K more to convincingly beat Fuwa

>>18677553
good try but it dipped after passing 41k. it might still rise but its not looking good right now

Okay, it's not happening. Nice try pink dog and getting over 40k is a great feat it just wasn't the right day for it sadly

Miko and Chloe are finishing?

>>18677626
Doubt it, we still have King to maybe push it to 50k

>>18677665
Lol nope.

>>18677650
42k GET!

>>18677665
Chloe is getting there but her actually beating it or not is totally unpredictable with a game like JK

>>18677670
Wait he still streaming! Damn this going to be fun

>>18677757
He's calling 50 guests. He'll be going until 8am or some shit.

Chloe beat it, here comes the money and just in time for the funnel to her genmate?

Chloe completes. Ready for funneling?

15 min left for koyori
won't even touch 45k desu

>inviting Lamy instead of someone more popular like Pekora or Mori
Fucked up right there and cost you the gold, Koyori

>>18677868
>Mori

Can Chloe beat Vox this month?

>>18677868
but koyo likes lamy anon, they kissed in amogus

>>18677895
>Mori: 1,930,000 subs
>Lamy: 940,000 subs

Is it just me or it's not particularly raining red on Chloe's stream?

>>18677868
>Mori
>in a japanese werewolf game
good way to make sure most people don't even check it out

>>18677868
you find the ultimate bait, comparing 7k at best streamer to 20k+ streamer

>>18677941
She's more popular in Japan than Lamy is, last samurai

fuwa pushing though 50k with sara

>>18677868
>pekora
Dead
>mori
English lesson

He's just shitposting, you don't need to reply.

>>18677966
pretending to be retarded for (you)s? whats even the point anon? with other fake internet points you can at least sell your acc to some tard or political psyops org but here?

>>18677868
a werewolf game without miko was the biggest mistake

>>18677926
>Lamy $1,482,557
>Mori not $1,482,557

>>18678043
>he doesn't know Mori's music is extremely popular in Japanese countries
embarassing

>>18677929
Yeah it's way lower than I was expecting actually, doesn't seem like she's reading them tonight which is understandable after 7 hours

>>18678090
ah yes, japanese countries

>>18678090
oh no no no no

>>18678090
>Japanese countries
kek

>>18678074
Rushia GOLD

>>18678090
>Japanese countries
Thank you anon you made me chuckle

>>18678074
Coco graduate announcement with no expectation had over 70K. Mafumafu have more subs, right ?

>>18678090

>>18677895
Yes, Mori is vastly more popular than Lamy. What is wrong with this thread?

>>18678467
We should distinguish between popularity and general awareness. Being known =/= being liked.

>delayed for 15 min
rip holo chance at gold

fucking hell all these overlaps...a slaughter house

Korekore going live in 20 minutes with another MafuRushi stream

>>18678587
didn't even realize that like 8 streams started since the werewolf collab started

>>18678554
????
You think people dislike Mori outside of /vt/?

>>18678634
you dont?

>>18678605
For the love of god,
Korekore gonna end these two careers right?

>>18678686
Ending a "male" career in JP just because of this? Very hard.

>>18678580
>Will actually overlap or push Holotalk a bit later
SasuGuh
Also
>>18678605
Apparently Mafux2 just denied the relationships rrats and confirmed they are friends (rumao). If Korex2 backpedal his words from last stream and shows actual evidence then it's fucking over for Rushia.

>>18678686
>Rushia still silent
i think that's gonna be the case anonchama

>13k waiting
>EN channel
yeah, it's fuwa gold boys

>>18678605
I'm surprised no one killed this fucker with the amount of leeching he does

>>18678661
No, I very much know you're wrong. Like damn dude, get a grip. I'm not even defending Mori since I dislike her, but facts are facts.

https://youtu.be/-xZ2BAUD7DA
The vod power of Gura is nuts.
Pic related is the screenshot 17 hours ago. It’s gained 17k views since then, alongside 10k+ on her MC video and 10k+ on her ASMR.

Pekora ASMR vs Gura ASMR was brought up yesterday where she was 95k views down on Pekora. Now she’s 85k/86k.

It feels like Gura’s speeding back up in recent time with collecting views despite all the youtube fuckery that’s been going on that Holo has had to deal with for the past few months

the topic for the last round is weird and it's going overtime, so it's gonna start dropping people to other streams

>>18678767
Mafu and Rushia fans confirmed losers, don't even have the balls to a kill a slanderous dramatuber.

>>18678786
Gura never really slows down in views, anon. But you're in peak CCV schizo hours so what do you hope to achieve by posting this now?

>>18678767
Apparently bigger corpos than Hololive had sued his ass but, for some whatever reason, he won in court.
His whole gimmick is that he has connections in the industry. But how powerful those connections are is a different story.

>17k waiting room
nijien gold....

>>18678767
Look how long Keemstar has been around
>>18677572
Its Niji. Males are on top.

>>18678762
She better be silent.

>>18678955
>for some whatever reason, he won in court.
Likely because he leeches but he doesn't make things up

>>18678767
Why would they kill Rushia's dear close friend?

>>18677572
Before Luxiem NijiEN won the EN gold once out of like 170 days.

Isn't this kinda low?

>>18679119
No Mori buff to carry her ass

Hololive EN Gold medal podium sweep?

BEHOLD A CCVID-LESS EN STREAM

>>18678786
>3 times the CCV
>almost the same duration
>minecraft stream vs 3d live with powerhouse guests like Subaru and Pekora
Remember what exactly 300k VOD views means.

What went wrong, Voxkeks?
Can't beat Mysta who's playing Genshit?
The amount of things fujos are willing to watch is laughably limited.
Can't wait for sub 10k Elden Ring streams.

>>18679171
kys latinx

>>18679109
This but unironically as a Holofag. Change is exciting as long as Holo still wins the majority.

the livecount for mori stream rising up very slowly bros...

>>18679109
Now they get gold every.....0 day.

>>18679119
They blew their load in the Valentines ASMR

>>18679171
Will the Mori stream pass that NijiEN stream on the official channel for the overall gold stream for the month? Although it probably doesn't matter since Gura's karaoke will do that anyway, lol.

>>18679203
>Can't wait for sub 10k Elden Ring streams.
Roru. Why would Fujos want to watch a man game? It will be a bigger buff for the NijiEN girls. Elden Ring schizo is going to fucking kill himself.

>>18679243
Still though, NijiEN has not been very good at spreading brand awareness outside of Asia to be honest.

>>18679119
Already reclining...

>>18679109
Was it the Obsydia debuts? I know the Lazulight debuts got mogged by Fish Tank and the Ethyria debuts got mogged by the Dead by Daylight collab.

Wonder how fast can Mori speedrun the 2M goal with further JK streams (and songs maybe?)

>>18679187
Don`t worry about it anon, ccv is working fine

>Fuwa with 34 more guests
Yup, he’s getting tomorrow’s gold too

>>18679182
>CCVID-less
>6 minutes to recover the waiting room and looks like a goddamn checkmark vso far
I don't think so.

werewolf collab is doing goodbyes

A little over 100k watching Holos now

>>18679393
lmao yeah they suck at that. NA is Hololive and Vshojo territory.

>>18679544
Flare's 3D is tomorrow

>>18678786
it's insane how youtube would always recommend her stuffs

>>18679588
overlap is brutal

>>18679109
wait when?

>>18679588
On the Niji side, close to 100k watching it too

>>18679647
Had to have been the Obsydia debuts

chinks spamming calli's stream. shameless. i wanna see them try on Gura's when she and fubuki collabs someday.

>>18679588
Kiara starting soon so that will be -1k.

>>18679544
Do we count that stream when over midnight as today's stream or tomorrow's stream?

>people horseracing 40k to 50k CCVS
Gura VODcopes are trying to get attention. The absolute state of chumpedos. Last Gura stream was 2 days ago

>>18679632
Kek, it's a clip a year ago, it's worthless.

>>18679685
Anything after 1AM JST doesn't get count

>>18679685
Counts for Today only.

>>18679675
> i wanna see them try on Gura's when she and fubuki collabs someday.
They will and no one will do anything about it, because they can't.

>>18679685
Unless he starts a new frame it will count for today only.

>>18679674
For that many streamers, the number is kinda pathetic for Niji.

>two of the biggest holo JP superstars plus second most subbed EN
>can't even hit 25k
lol

Fuwa needs to invite Luxiem to call. That will shoot the CCV up to 100k easily.

23k for Mori

Monthly EN Gold secured. NijiEN collab on the official channel pushed to silver (and probably bronze after Gura's karaoke).

>>18679867
>EN gold with Marine
heh

>>18679830
>Conveniently ignores the horrid checkmark, the dreaded sign of CCVID.

Seeing to Holos being buddy with foreign branches feel kinda nice. I wonder why Kuzuha or Kanae has not made a move to buddy up with Luxiem.

>>18679867
>EN gold with fubuking
heh

>>18679902
can't afford the collab fees yet

>>18679902
Kanae is literally friends with Selen

>>18679867
En gold with Marine and Fbking

>>18679912
>>18679890
>collabs now don't count but if a nijiEN get's a popular jp collab it does

>>18679703
Gura streamed yesterday tho?

>>18679672
oh yeah petra's debut. holoEN didn't have anything on the 18th did they?

>>18680016
I didn't say it doesn't count. Just find it funny that even with Marine it has only like 24k.

>>18680016
>g-guys Koyori totally has 40k by herself
It's hopeless anon, EN will always be held to schizo standards by /jp/

>>18679890
>NijiEN gold with Chink audience.
Heh

>>18680115
don't drag my pink dog into this bullshit as discussion

>>18680111
I mean haachama got 26k with marine on something better than this, your point?

Holy shit Fuwa’s totsu dropped by 10k when Deron appeared kek

Gods, looking at Mori's graph actually makes me curious.
That is 10,000% CCVID bullshit.
I was hoping. That the system would have unflagged more actual human users as time went on, but clearly that is not the case.

>>18680111
If it wasn't "speaking english stream" and a game instead, it could have real numbers. Umisea had better views because they were playing actual games. And because honestly people care more about seeing Gura collab with JPs than Mori

>Out of nowhere, a wild Ayame appears

fbk and marine could pull 50k+ on a confession stream, mori is such a debuff huh, or is it inanis?

>>18680139
Chinese fans will always be better.

>>18680161
>reclining chama vs 4 person collab

>>18680179
kek, is she this hated or it's manjisanji effect?

Imagine if this was rat and Irys with Marine and Fubuki instead.

>>18680239
White people is a debuff anywhere in life. That's why population control exists anon.

>>18680239
i'll be honest, the collab is boring as shit, it's one of those things that sounds like a nice idea but it translates poorly to actual content

Korone was one of the main beneficiaries from the funnel, caught some 3k of them

>>18680239
confession stream is a better gimmick than learning english

>>18680309
It'd have even worse numbers if the premise was also "speak english".

>>18680279
I mean, she did talk shit about Niji forcing her to pander to her audience so Niji fans do not exactly like her.

>>18680179
His graph is amazing. We might learn something from this

>#01
>superstar guest
>only 25k
next guest is gonna be Iroha and whoever JPs that played JK huh

>>18680351
I meant just a collab in general.

>>18680341
subaoka watchers i'd bet

>>18680367
Christ those peaks.

>>18678786
Why are Holofags coping so hard today? Is it because Niji won Gold or is it because Luxiem is mogging them in SC?

>>18680383
We need some Elite English for episode 2. Only that could top this.

>>18680442
chumkek =/= holofag

>>18679555
>>18679893
>>18680199
theres not ccvid, EN vtubers are just bad entertainer and the audience is unloyal

If only clippers didn't exist, vtubers could have been contained in Japan. I fucking hate Hlolive Moments, Sushi, Vtuber Tengoku and other leeches so much.

>>18680341
>>18680395
Calli caught a good share of the funnel too, but they are still getting validated

>>18680367
for some reason a lot of niji graphs are like this, they incline/decline explosively and then hard stop, a lot less smoother than holo graphs, which is also the reason why the first like 10 mins of a niji stream are good for bait posts

>>18679734
there's a possibility of infighting within the chink fanbase if that happens considering Gura is still loved in bilibili.

>>18680383
Put Koro-san and it will be chaotic fun and another 25k.

>>18680279
She just said something recently about the management forcing her to read out SCs and cultivate her own gachikois.

>>18680489
bad entertaining

>>18680531
Korone and Miko would probably get even more viewers than this.

>>18680522
Luxiem fans will fucking destroy Gura.

>>18680383
wonder if Ina gonna stay for the next eps

>>18680485
Stop biting to obvious baits faggot

>>18680354
>>18680536
I genuinely can't believe she would get a backslash from "with the concert being cancelled I want to pull my weight so I'll read superchat".
Any nijifag can corroborate this?

>>18680495
>clippers effect
Not just vtubers, basically all streamers.

>>18680495
Based

>>18680502
cull fags on suicide watch

>>18680597
I'm a nijifag and I approve of those messages.

>>18680502
i thought en are the the only ones getting culled? what happened enbros?

Are the numberfags slowly leaving this thread Kek?

>>18680671
No, I still refuse to believe Niji crowd is this tough. I'll need a notarized selfie with the person holding timestamp, shoe on head, sharpie on pooper, wearing Kuzuha comically large jacket with the words "I love Nijisanji" in a piece of paper that wrapped Niji merch

>>18680567
Literally what does Luxiem have to do with this? Do you just insert them everywhere?

>Lamy 42k
>Mori 26k

>>18680767
it's been slow all week, but the entire board has been like this this week as well

>>18680832
Pink Lamy, you surely mean

>>18679830
Once again prove that contents matter, fame can only pull so much numbers

can't believe we're already at the part where we just start baitposting and timelooping

>>18680767
I think the state of this board since the Rushia yab has caused most of the genuine posters to leave. Only the shit posters are left.

>lain
Biggest misscast for a voice I've ever heard and you can see it in her numbers.

>>18680832
>Lamy 13k likes
>Mori 15k likes
looks like last samurais are still tryign to ignore the cull

>>18680767
Very tempted when people are purposely being obtuse and shitposting with annoying shit like this >>18680756
I mean FFS, it's not like we didn't go overthia shit for weeks to figure out that it's users getting flagged, nope, suddenly the shitposters who say 'only En gets culled' are now the authoritative voices and everyone reasonable is ignored. Day by day, my will to continue in /#/ decreases. Maybe sticking to euro hours when things are slower will be better for one's sanity.

>>18680832
only thing mori have over lamy is her song and subs, lamy beats her sc, ccv and merch.

>>18680904
Yeah this is kinda shit. Marine and Fubuki have no idea about even half the shit Mori is saying, Ina's just quietly sitting there being useless and Mori is talking to herself with broken volume levels.

>>18680982
>only thing Mori has over Lamy is everything that matters, Lamy beats her in irrelevant metrics
Also Mori sells more merch

>>18680976
link it to me anon, not my fault that retards gets grudgeposts

>>18680959
>pull up the stream
>cringe for 5 mins
>leave a like
>leave
that's what i did with mori's stream

Does Mori only collab with the big JPs?

>>18680976
We ARE in slow euro hours, it's 2-4 pm on a fucking saturday.

>>18681072
>Also Mori sells more merch
Give me the numbers

>>18681046
This is why you need a non-autist to bring everybody together. IRyS would have been a much better choice than Ina here.

>>18681107
I see this narrative every single EN stream Kek, last samurai?

>>18681072
Unless you are merch anon who actually bring the numbers...
T. Cuckbeat

>>18680597
There is no backlash.

>Mori paid for Marine's appearance fee for THIS

>>18681124
Sorry, I meant slow (peak euro) hours, where things tend to be a bit more civilized.
>>18681096
What exactly do you want to be linked, posts for how people were getting culled and not channels? I can go digging and provide you actual info across multiple threads if you really want to, but I'll need to go archive diving if you want the original postsz or I could summarize what we learned is the cause, to the best of our knowledge.

>>18681194
i'm sorry your oshi's cringe

>>18681247
That confirms it
>there is backslash

holy mother of overlaps

>>18681107
>if I pretend to do this then it means everybody does it as well

>>18681150
Over 3 streams,it will kill her throat again.

>5M combined subs channel lost to reddit duck and lamy

>>18681313
\

>>18681131
>>18681223
NTA how can you even have the numbers of any merch sales LMAO? the voices in your head? or selecting a narrative by actual numberfags

>>18677572
jesas they leveled the playing field by just debuting males. They're truly Manjisanji

>>18681296
>>18681194
I'll have to be sincere, I tuned in into the stream, left a like, saw Calli with gangimari eyes and Fubuki having to pander with "my tail is mofu mofu", turned 360 and walked away

>>18680982
>3rd most popular vtuber
>b-but the CCV
>entirely unsourceable claim about Merch
kek

>>18681072
NUMBERS
NOW

>>18681327
the numbers back me up :)

>>18681353
Leaky site for the shop.hololive site that was implemented last year. You'll get no specifics because the last time someone translated it and posted it to 5ch, the 'easy' way to check got fixed ASAP.

>>18681353
Lamy actually sold out her Sake and Perfume every single times, don't know about Mori merch tho, what was it? t shirt? oh wait

>>18681107
>>18681379
Is this the reason number thread is slowly dying every week? just samefagging? Kek

>>18681399
You first anon. What proof have you Lamy sells more merch considering this is the one metric we have only bits and pieces of?

>>18681131
>>18681223
Mori has a million subs more than Lamy, that's a million more people potentially buying her merch. Use some common sense for once.

>>18681496
kek to you too gen5 schizo

>>18681518
>subscribers buy merch
Kek.

>>18681393
lamy merch is always sold out compared to her peers, lamy also trails only marine and aqua in the valentine voicepack.

>holotalk with a holo that isn't very popular
>huge EN overlap
Why the world hates Kiara this much....

>you can add every single song view Lamy has together and it won't even add up to a single Mori song
>dumb ENschizos in this thread still think Lamy is more popular than Mori

>>18681353
>He wasn't here when Merch anon popularized a method to see merch sales
kys kekbeat
Also
>Mori actually overlapping with Holotalk
Rorurumao

i wonder why the thread is bad

>>18681599
now this is shitposting

We've gotten to the point where people are actually trying to argue Lamy is a more popular vtuber than Mori. What being a /jp/fag does to a motherfucker.

>>18681535
>gen5 schizo
WTF is happening to # thread? are you guys having a mental breakdown on narratives or some shit and just making force conversation?

/#/ is declining.

>>18681418
>:)

>>18681684
hey man

>>18681595
You literally don't have the Mori numbers though. Myth does tremendously well with Merch, so this is a random fight you picked for no reason other than to prop Lamy up with
>w-well I think she wins

>>18681614
shush anon, I was being silent and letting the gen5 schizo bury the thread.
I was expecting 15k numbers from Vox too, ee maybe more turbo fujo thumbnails

>>18681640
I'd argue Mori is indeed a popular singer. She's not really that interesting as a streamer.

If Mori is more popular than Lamy, how come she doesn't sell any sake?
>CHECK AND MATE, ENFAGS!

>>18681589
Non-subscribers definitely don't buy merch so Mori has a massive advantage over Lamy there.

>>18681720
>Mori numbers
26k

>>18681518
then why arent those subs tuning in to mori stream? and regular stream watchers are actually more inclined to buy a merch than sub bots.

>>18681614
Does Vox ever NOT coombait?

>>18681720
>Myth does tremendously well with Merch
Ame's merch in holo shop doesn't reflect that kek. Nice rrat dumbass

literally arguing without any numbers whatsoever after taking a baitpost dead seriously
the absolute fucking state of the numbers thread

>>18681775
>he doesn't know how much money Mori gets from Spotify and other music sites
She makes more from her songs alone than Lamy ever will in her lifetime, retard

>>18681839
Songs aren't merchandise anon, don't change subject

>>18681614
>nijiEN can't break 10k for the day
>some random Mori VS Lamy discussion starts
you just know

>>18681518
>>18681782
Most retarded take of the day goes to...
Someone pull that Valentine voicepack numbers and just look at Matsuri's sales

>>18681774
>popular singer
she can sing? she just said some word, really fast at that and pretend to be black

>>18681808
>why don't culled viewers show up in the numbers
It's called CCVID, were you asleep since Nov 2020?

Is the # thread dying because numberfags can't tolerate force narratives and arguments or shitposters just wins LMAO?

Mythia and Fuwa have widened their leads on Iroha. Looks like she's getting a little bit left behind right now.

I still remember when NijiEN girls got flak for bad scheduling.
Who the fuck greenlit this? Just push the Calli 30 min prior and the Kiara 30 min further and both would have breathing room instead of overlapping

Dumb broads

>>18681790
So you're just shitposting now?
>>18681774
She's vastly more known because of singing than Lamy is for streaming. Do you also think Lamy is more popular than Suisei? Korone? Even her superchat lead puts her up at number 8 most superchatted vs Mori's nr 10.

>>18681839
?getting money from spotify
youd better off shining someones shoes

>>18681869
that was just the live numbers. here's nijiEN's day

>>18681868
>merchandise
>noun
>/ˈməːtʃ(ə)ndʌJs,ˈməːtʃ(ə)ndʌJz/
>goods to be bought and sold
>songs aren't merchandise
retard

>>18681614
>around 19k watching
idk why this is bad when they're struggling to hit half of that in NA prime. That's like 2 holoen playing debuff games and 1 SC reading

>Holotalk 6,8k
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

>>18681833
dedicated shitposters can do it to any thread unfortunately.

>>18681925
Mori makes it a point to overlap Holotalk

>>18681915
i don't understand why the samurai is doing worse in specifically the subs department considering she does nicely in everything else

>>18681839
>money
>from Spotify
lol
lmao

>>18681964
>Elira 4.7k karaoke
wtf are the females inclining?

>>18681925
kiara holotalks are usually 2 hrs long non-stream-watcher, mori is gonna drop right into chicken

>>18681968
The context here matter anon, I truly doubt people in the context of this thread calls either physical discs or song streaming sales as "merchandise".

You are making a point that Calli total revenue may be larger than Lamy because of song sales and that may be true, but you don't need to call it "merchandise" to make your point.

>>18681827
Do you or do you not have Mori's merch numbers to compare to Lamy's? You're not just making schizo comparisons, right?

>>18682053
Remember when she tried to overlap the Coco holotalk?

>>18681926
Calm down anon. Mori is a speck of dust compared to popular singers. Lamy pretty up there on popular streamers. Even Kizuna Ai superchatted her.

Sorry KFP, your oshi will play ARK

Cowboy vs samurai, did Niji lost or something?

>>18682125
i saw that guy yell PLEASE NO in chat lmaooo

>>18682084
>mori is gonna drop right into chicken
Yeah, or the audience will just wait for it to end and catch it on the VOD instead of entering an interview haflway

>>18682120
And Lamy is a fucking bacterium compared to Mori if you're going to make stupid analogies like that.

>>18682106
>You're not just making schizo comparisons
where do you think you are?

>>18682120
>. Lamy pretty up there on popular streamers
???
So is Mori by this logic. All holos are.

I wonder why JP only nuberfag domestic ccv. How often do they compare to overseas?

>>18682178
Imagine losing to bacterium in SCs. Kek

>>18682178
If Mori is so big how come Cover had to change her name so people would know who she is?
> CHECK
> AND
> MATE
Fell like a house of dominoes!

>>18682156

I think this is the reason why Nijisanji had to cull their ID branch.

>>18682238
nah, mori is below 10k average

>>18682257
>inb4 her SC is being culled somehow

>>18682257
>being this retarded
She only loses because she doesn't beg for it every stream like Lamy does, on a per event basis Mori does way better.

VSPO has started moving up at the bottom of the top 150, Vox is behind them a little bit, but moving faster.
Above them, Maya Putri has slowed down to 1k a day and is still a few thousand from 400k, but it looks like she's gonna make it in a few days.

>>18682300
Sony....

Versen incline!

>>18682244
the actual answer is because market size difference, but most people in here won't take that answer seriously at all

>>18682259
dont shitpost with mr koro, retard

>>18682321
>on a per event basis
FUCKING KEK

> NIJICOEP LIST ANON, ADD THIS ONE TO THE LIST

>>18682259
She's still more well known in Japan than Lamy is despite your attempts to cope by lying about merch

>>18682179
So the Holotalk with Mio doesn't exist?

I've seen this exact same fucking argument before
Why Lamy and Mori?

Honestly if this is really what makes # thread active in any timezone nowadays, no wonder this thread slowed in the last few weeks for actual numberfags numberfagging streams Kek

Somehow discussion about Mori always drag down the quality of threads

>>18682257
Yeah imagine that. I can't believe Lamy is one of the most popular vtubers in hololive, beating obscure nobodies like Korone, Miko, Subaru and Fubuki( she has twice Fubuki's superchats lmao)

>>18682318
if you have 300 viewers, you are at the top 0.25% of streamers.

Damm, stop comparing Lamy with second-class citizen like Mori

>>18682321
>Goliath only lost to David because he has god on his side
Holy cope

>>18682394
It's factual you fucking retard just compare the SCs they got for their respective anniversary streams. If Mori baited SCs as hard as Lamy does she'd be up there with Rushia already but she doesn't and she even tells incelfags to fuck off.

>>18682408
because someone bait posted, and for some reason a couple of anons took it way too personally

>kore hasn't even started talking about rushia yet
>150k viewers
Jesus

>>18682448
>im richer than 99% of Africa

>BUT WHAT IF
>>18682394
That's a Holocope anon. Unfortunately Nijifags are so incompetent that they can't make one to match the Nijicope list

>>18682408
People just like to yank the chain of the "last samurai schizo", it's like triggering that schizo every city has wandering their streets, which rages when called some particular name

It feels like every month someone chooses a new JP holo to champion as their oshi and when they get reminded she's not that popular they pit her vs EN and immediately get the other JPfags on their side.

>>18682408
because
>Lamy 42k
>mori 26k

HERE COMES THE FUNNEL

>>18682179
Anon...

kiara 10k

>>18681964
>IRyS Guerilla Apex gets more viewers than Mysta Genchink gacha stream
Oh no no no Luxiembros!! Is the boom period over?

>>18682614
luxiem sc > irys sc

NIJICOPE LIST
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>percentages
>ratio
>tournaments don't count
>fortune telling
>volume
>averages
>total CCV during primetime
>trailers are ads
>Google trends
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>stop picking on midgets! fight someone your own size!
>pit Vshojo against HoloEN when you're losing
>pit HoloEN against HoloJP when you're losing
>pit former Holo against HoloJP when you're losing
>Holobubble is bursting
>foreign buff/global audience bad, muh local Nips good
>YouTube Japan trends
>Apex will only get more popular from now on!
>flexible creative freedom
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate
>Cover uses bots
>Hal is honorary Niji
>Kson is honorary Niji
>Ui is honorary Niji
>Most vtubers are Nijisanji like and Nijisanji is part of greater vtuber community
>Nijisanji fans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement
>Sponsorships are retarded
>Hololive's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab
>Koshien is not an event
>Nijisanji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market
>pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count
>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side
>Hololive invented unicorns
>watchalongs are POVs
>Nijisanji isn't a corporation, it's a family
>each Twitch viewer is equivalent to about 1.5 Youtube viewers because Selen flopped her first Twitch stream and Selen never flops
>by promoting the main channel they create more general Nijisanji fans which will then trickle down to the smaller livers down the line
>subs to growth ratio
>subs to SC ratio
>*insert delusion about Selen here*
>VOD views don't count
>everything that brings a big audience is a special event
>Niji is mainstream in JP, which is more important than Hololive's international dominance
>Holo's main channel kneels to Niji main channel
>gen 3 should be left alone so Nijis can be properly compared to Holos
>Square Enix doesn't count
>combined peak CCV
>quality numbers
>dead cat bounce
>Holo merch sells out quick only because of scalpers
>Hololive is only popular because of chink clippers
>68% of the top 50 vtubers is bad
>Rightful sovereignty
>Ichikara has morals
>bug in the algorithm
>DLC is a gimmick
>Nijisanji has a better following than Hololive in the west
>There are no nijifans here, only falseflaggers trying to make Nijifans look bad
>Views don't matter
>only the west speaks english
>outfit reveals don't count
>look at the Twitter interaction
>Fake numbers
>R-r-relays don't count because I say so
>Pokemon doesn't count
>20 hololive merchs
>We're losing? Better start telling blatant lies
>Luxiem is five Mystas
>Gura didn't go viral
>less Money is good thing
>The numbers do not reflect the quality of the content
>NijiEN chat interaction is actually soulful
>Gacha rolling streams shouldn't count for medals
>on a per event basis
>Leaving SCs on is SC begging

Holotalk +2k

>>18682614
Nah, its not, Luxiem is still getting their normal big numbers. Its just that heir big numbers aren't even that big. Its funny how they don't even have the cull and this is all they can do (and before you jump down my throat their females are culled too, the difference wouldn't be so ridiculous between Nijimales and Nijigirls in EN).

yeah, Mori actually win today gold

>>18682710
>Holocope
>in the Nijicope list

>>18682710
>each Twitch viewer is equivalent to about 1.5 Youtube viewers
Isn't this correct though? Twitch viewers are way more inflated than youtube.

Anyone buying this? They are now disposing Himachan's nendoroids.

>>18682713
More like +(large number), it's still climbing. Gonna bet a lot of people who'd be interested in a JP/EN collab are gonna be interested in Holotalk.

>Kiara getting mogged on her signature content
>Retards arguing about Mori vs Lamy
I hate you niggers so fucking much.

>>18682605
It may look like a funnel but, so far, that's just the Holotalk regular audience returning from the other overlapping stream, which more or less proves the point

>>18682795
>Clearance
OH NO NO NO!!!!

>>18682535
He's talking about 3d Youtubers now right?

>>18682795
? Disposing
You'll need to elaborate for those of us who can't read JP.

>Mori English stream
>1 hour, 26k CCV, 112k views
>Koyori werewolf stream
>1 hour, 42k CCV, 54k views
last samurais will still deny the cull

>>18682795
yagoo... please save her...

>>18682795
Now that someone posted Himacha can I have an explanation of why she lost so much popularity?

>>18682890
Just use your phone with google translate. It's not that hard.

>>18682795
>Release Date: 2021/10
Oh an old nendo

>>18682893
>He thinks processing times are the same for every stream
Cuckbeat please

>>18682864
Kiara has literally never had good numbers. Ever. Not once. Even Holotalk ranges from bad to mediocre.
Kiara had bad numbers pre 2020 cull for fuck's sake. Why would "mogging" Kiara ever matter? That's like ""mogging"" Robocco on her signature Apex content

>>18682885
>>18682909
Sunflower.......come home.....

>>18682893
now this is a proper shitpost

>>18682893
Kek would at least see both JP/EN fags force argue abut something again to make this thread active

>>18682993
Processing times are SLOWER for EN and Koyori's stream ended earlier so yeah, Mori actually had far more live CCV, last samurai

>>18682890
Clearance sale, if it doesn't sell by the end of the period it's going into the incinerator

>>18682795
Polka you know what to do

>>18682993
>He thinks Koyori will have more VOD views
DYRBI?

Nice EN funnel. Would have been even nicer if Mori didn't have to delay by 15 minutes and could have finished on time.

>>18682893
koyori is just more entertaining than marine, seethe

>>18682998
Kiara was averaging 20k pre 2020 cull, dumbass. She'd still be high tier now if not for the cull.

>>18683024
>make this thread active
>this thread isn't already active enough with all the shitposting

Azki finally come into the box

>>18682795
>>18682885
>Clearance
KEK

[PURGE FOG HORN LIKE SIREN]
<UOOOOOOOOOOO
>UOOOOOOOOOOO

< TRADE ALERT
> TRADE ALERT

NIJISANJI RECEIVES
> Matsuri
> 8 gold, paid in installments, 2 per month
> Seven (7) guaranteed collabs with Kiara (NijiEN needs not apply) or One (1) prospective collab with Gura, contingent on her tummy not hurting that day

HOLOLIVE RECEIVES
> Inui Toko
> Himawari Honma
> Sara Hoshikawa
> A Kuzuha-Astel collab, on Kuzuha channel where the vampire has to sing praise to Astel masculinity and APEX skill

WELL NIJIBLOKES!? DO WE HAVE A DEAL!?!?

>Talking about Mori's number
Can we just focus on her song views ? Sticking on stream contents will lower the thread quality.

>>18683042
Holy moly, the shame....

OH GOOOODDDDDD I'MMM LOOOOOOOOOOPPPIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

>>18683098
No she wasn't, anon. Only Gura/Ame/Mori were high tier precull.

>>18682893
JP VOD IS BEING CULLED!

>>18683187
>Finally AZKi in Hologra
ITS HAPPENING!!!!

>>18683187
> HELP ME STEP BRO!

>>18683187
HAPPENING

>>18683234
All of them were high tier pre-cull, Gura was a higher than high, the numbers were recorded, you don't need to lie.

>>18683187
>Execute Project AZKi
Time for the true singer to claim her throne as the best singer

>>18683292
Show me the numbers then. Kiara wasn't a 20k average unless you cherry pick that month where she had the Pekora and Gura collab that both shot her to 70k.