/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>18632350
Based Kiara

>>18632350
>Doing something for the sake of likes
Welcome to Twitter and social media Kiara

>>18632350
its not stolen art, its my NFAT

>>18632350
I don't get it. why making a thread for this

>>18632484
Deadbeat deflection thread.

>>18632484
We need 30 threads every time a holo tweets

Based chicken for kicking twittards in the balls for stealing art

>>18632350
Reposting someone's art is not stealing. People don't earn anything from it.

>>18632527
>Gura gets zero threads

>>18632563
She doesn’t use twitter

>>18632446
I claim this post as my NFAT

>>18632610
thanks for explaining my post anon

>>18632350
>Doing something for the sake of likes
Kiara...

*steals your art*

>>18632610
Smart Shark

>>18632610
wtf im a cumbud now

>>18632864
You forgot the "he" in front of art.

>>18632350
For context, she hit the lasagna hard after the stream

>>18632350
This board has come full circle to orange woman bad

Does this include traced art.

>>18633250
Yes. She added another tweet specifically saying that tracing is also stealing.

>>18632350
>my, I, I, my
why is she like this

>>18632350
>use other people art on her own stream
>other people in hololive do fanart streams
>I/hololive can do it and get money out of it
>but you can't

>>18634892
Shut up Zoki

>>18632350
Stupid orange woman with her stupid opinions stealing is based because she doesn't like it

>>18632350
Literally what’s wrong with her comment?

>>18635105
nothing. this is a connorbrap deflection thread.

>reposting art is theft
Lmao, artfags are delusional

>>18634892
Meds...

>>18632520
God I fucking hate cuckbeats

I like to think Kiara keeps a folder of every art submitted to her in the art tag, labels by date and artist and checks it every day to keep up with who loves her more and who is a dirty art thief to block or mute them.

>>18635105
>posting something so it's available to everyone
>stealing
do zoomies really?

>>18636520
>>18635511
He removed the artists signature from the image. Are you just pretending to be retarded?

>>18636655
A dick move.
Still not theft.

>>18632520
Fancuck deflection post

.... No.... I never gonna say Kiara is based but pretty cool move with that tweet

>That twitterfag that's been having a year long meltdown over fan art autism and got called out for Iofi for being a massive faggot is going full egg now
Not you personal army faggot.

>>18632484
The resident schizo she reposted by accident is collecting (you)s

>>18636774
What now ESL?

>>18636985
Are you retarded?

>>18636985
That's the definitipn of stealing art and not theft.... bra are you literally retarded?

>>18637122
Anon you having a stroke there?

>>18637219
Possibly, if I don't answer within the next 30 linutes molest a doctor

imagine if the nfttards won, youd have to pay to post memes imagine

>>18632550
Yes visibility, i even saw a reposter advertising stuff

>>18636985
Again, retard, act of thievery means that you took something from someone without consent that (potentially or already) had some value. If a person downloads a picture and then posts it on his own twitter account, then it's not thievery. Because that "thief" didn't sell it, therefore he didn't make any money, therefore the original author didn't lose any money. And if the "thief" took it from someone's twitter, then the original author posted that picture himself on the internet so anybody could see it, essentially making aforementioned picture free for any non-profitable use.

Imagine supporting someone's art, crediting them, pushing more people towards original artists, and be called a thief by some chickenhead.

>>18632520
rent free.

Stuff like this shows how retarded people become.
This board always talks shit about Kiara's "ME ME ME", but also supports this "always mention the original author" faggotry which are completely the same. How about next time I will mention how retarded you are, you apologetic spineless fag.
If you support this retarded practice, then you also support all that copyright bullshit that filled the internet lately. Now you can't even listen to normal music on stream, because the moment you turn the song on, you will get the copyright strike. You know what comes next? Next they will do the same with videogames. So no videos or streams will be allowed if they had even a 5 second clip from a game.
Imagine if copypastas also had the same practice. Imagine that every time you post some pasta on this board, a bunch of crazy cocksuckers would appear and start crying that "this pasta was created by SchizoFaggot69, delete your post and do a new one with proper mentioning".
Copyright should be abolished for the future of humanity, and people who force or support it should be executed immediately.

>>18638391
What you're saying is true but he still loses money. Small artist need visibility. They need someone like Kiara to like/retweet them. 1 single retweet by Kiara, whether it's a clip of a stream of hers or just artwork, will get thousands of views. Hundreds of new followers / subs.

If clips, those new people will help generate money.
If artwork, the new followers will also like and retweet your shit, creating a snowball effect. It will help you find new commissions.

tl;dr it's not really theft but it does lose you money. A lot.

>>18639094
if you can't tell the difference between copyright and "you're an asshole if you don't credit the original creator for a piece of art" you are just retarded.

>>18639240
One leads to another. This is the exact reason why copyright laws were invented.

>>18632350
The funniest thing is that she didn't even look at this guys profile picture. Made me kek hard

https://twitter.com/PohPohPePeh

That's the guy

>>18639392
>Made me kek hard
Discordnigger.

>>18634075
She's a woman anon
>>18636655
And? I bet you removed ifunny watermarks too
>>18639094
>but also supports this "always mention the original author" faggotry
Only the fags, new and old

>>18639240
Words are art, you didn't give credit to the original creator of the words: "if", "you", "can't", "tell", "the", "difference", "between", "copyright" "and", "you're", "an", "asshole", "if", "you", "don't", "credit", "the", "original", "creator", "for", "a", "piece", "of", "art", "you", "are", "just", "retarded".
You haven't paid your copyright to breath today either, you asshole.

>>18639226
If your entire career depends on whether someone will like your tweet or not, then maybe you should try something else. Buy a lottery ticket or something.

>>18639731
That's how small content creators need to become succesful in the first place. and that's what big content creators do as well. Why do you think Holos shill their stuff on twitter? Why people ask for subs, likes, comments, retweets etc? Because visibility will snowball you to success.

Before the internet was a thing people were paying little kids to stand on the sidewalk and hold signs with your ads.
Only absolute retards build a fan base or try to sell shit without trying to get visibility.

on the topic of intellectual property and theft. i don't think potential profit/value is a valid material to steal.
its on the same vein as if someone taking opportunities away from you being a thief/oppressor, seemingly bad logic with terrible consequences like reparations, equality and other commie crap.

>>18640036
No, "Lost profits" is a pure economic term.

>>18640244
'sale that didn't occur but probably would if so-and-so' is an economical term, and my point is unchallenged.

>>18639365
No, copyright laws were invented to preserve profits after the printing press made book creation possible for those outside specialized trades. Crediting artists is a social convention (i.e. not being an asshole) with no inherent legal repercussions.
If one led to the other you wouldn't hear about the original creators of stuff having to fight to get the rights to their own stuff, nor would copyrights last 70 years past the creator's death or whatever insane rules the US has right now.
>>18639594
>Words are art
Nope.

>>18641868
>words isn't art
>lyrics, poems, literatures isn't art
Ok retard

>>18641868
>Words are art
>Nope.
This "Nope" uses a font designed by an artist.
Each letter for every language was made by an artist.
Letters ARE drawings.

>>18632350
fuck off chicken. Immaterial ownership isnt real

inb4 some autist points out that it's not stealing to copy a jpg

>>18642542
you are in after.

>>18642213
Those are artforms made of words. Words are themselves no more art than pigments are art because it could be used to paint something or a random stone is art because it could be carved. Which to be clear, before you try to be a smart ass, yes a single word or brush stroke or an unhewn stone CAN be art, if placed with intent, but they aren't inherently.
>>18642294
Ok but, and I admit it's partially my fault for not mentioning this in my original post, I'm also not claiming I invented fucking Arial or whatever font this site uses. The guy in the OP is slapping his signature on other people's artworks. He isn't just posting the artwork, he's literally saying "Hey, I drew this" when he didn't.
(I'd also argue that like any other mass produced parts, the design might be art but an individual example isn't. And I'd definitely argue with "Each letter for every language was made by an artist", but those matter much less than the signature thing.)
>>18642542
Bud, I think you missed the entire rest of the thread lol

>>18634892
But they credit the artists, retard. She is talking about people that repost art and don't credit them.

>>18642741
>only recognise art as the product
>doesn't know art is the activity that resulting product, that involves creative or imaginative talent expressive of technical proficiency, beauty, emotional power, or concept ideas.
Ok retard

>>18632350
Can't believe she had the nerve to retweet stolen art. Somebody should kick her ass for this!

>>18643681
Read the tweet again.

>>18636774
>Deletes the signature so it's more difficult to find the artist
>Goal is to get all the attention for the work someone else did
>Prevents the real artist from getting the exposure that could help them to get more jobs
How is that not stealing?

>>18636774
Stealing credit is theft, retard.

>>18643696
...What?
I don't see how anything in that post supports that idea?
The reason words aren't themselves art is because they're just products. They have to be placed with intent (the "activity) to become art.
The reason individual mass produced goods aren't art is because they're just things. The design is art because someone had to, well, design it.
How did you get me valuing the product over the activity from that?

>>18634892
I know you are probably a newfag, but if you post art into the art hashtag you automatically allow the talents to use it. So yes they can and you cant. Get your own hashtag.