/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>Azur Lane BTFO
>”Elon Musk” BTFO

TOWASAMAWIN

>>18620997
i wanted my Suisei gold...

>>18620997
Azurlane've been on decline since they denounce holo arent they?

>>18621029
I'll personally end you if you end up summoning King

>>18620997
>Azurlane
They could have reaped the benefits of being one of the first Holo collab but they decided to go the chink route.

>>18621033
Can't beat the whores. She's too pure.

>>18621059
>>18621072
Look, the company basically is constantly as odds with the mainland government, and they're HQ is in Shanghai. Their biggest userbase is CN, which is the first server that was opened. If they could do it without basically killing the game in China, you bet they'd love to collab with Hololive again.

>>18621072
They weren't given a choice, just like the Muse Dash devs no matter how personally friendly they were with Holo they had to cut ties or be blacklisted in their domestic territory

>>18621173
>you bet they'd love to collab with Hololive again.
Do they even do repeat collabs?

>>18621033
Suisei is as bronze as her Apex skills.

Went to check when Vox was starting and the nasty bitches in his prechat were writing erotic fanfiction, someone please take one for the team and give these ugly girls some cock

>>18621333
Sorry anon. I'd rather fishing some menhera on tinder than a being 1km withing those bitches' proximity

>>18621333
sorry anon fucking an old dry womb is necrophilia pretty much

Lamy 15k!

>>18621260
Iirc, there was a lot of buzz around the likelihood of a rerun right before the Taiwan yab happened, and Marine was rumored to be one of the new shops to be added as part of it.
They haven't done a rerun of any external collabs yet though, no.

>>18621470
Ships. SHIPS ARGH. Curse my fat fingers.

>>18621333
>someone please take one for the team and give these ugly girls some cock
It’s not the “ugly” part, ugly chicks can be good in the sack and they even make an extra effort.

Any girl that can’t get dicked are mental cases and fall into
>never stick your dick in crazy
territory

>>18621033
She just need to sing.

Tf? I just got holo ad!

>>18621641
Are you sure it’s not a clipper? Some used to put ads with Korone

>>18621671
Nah it's from FanExpo official YTaccount

>>18621641
I see an expo in the bottom left there?

>>18621714
>>18621641
its fanexpo ad

>>18621641
Oh my! Hololive is inclining.

>Azki at 7.7k

>8708 Peak
HOLY SHIT IROHASU TEETEE

>>18621641
Damn the mc suck!

>>18621791
It’s a shame that she took too much to get into the box. Her karaoke are Suisei level at worst

>>18621791
The abscene of all of the first stringers on JP is giving the rest a chance to shine.

>>18621819

>>18621791
her usual is like 4-5k though so it's not that far off

>>18621819
THEY ARE

>>18621819
MAGICS ARENT REAL!?

* Niji numbers right now *
Gold is still King’s if he wants it. No waiting room for him so far

/#/ is declining.

>>18622064
hey man

>>18622044
Strong day for Niji, 80k are currently watching them

>>18622044
120k live, a good day

>luna 20k
Bulipanda don't look!

>>18621819
RUINED

>>18622247
This is actually sorta close I got about 72k off of the screenshot.
>18622272
This is a shitpost.

>>18622044
Tfw Azki towering most of these...

>>18622335
It must have been some faggot from here.

>>18622044
Is that one of the kr girls streaming on twitch getting higher numbers than Hana I see?

>>18622335
Okay whose smart fridge was it?

>>18622520
Yeah, that one's Lamy's sister I think

>>18622566
Just how big is the Lamy multiverse?

Hey anons, is it true that haachama is inclining? I was surprised to see her stream almost getting 7k peak after a long stream of 2/3k
Kek maybe I'll start watching her again

Mayo (the vtuber that screamed her lungs out when Matsuri visited)
Is having her 3D debut, 450 viewers
https://youtu.be/HHz5AZyFJS0

Was anybody able to get the initial stock for https://shop.hololivepro.com/en/products/holostars_3dacrylicstand ?

>Vox can only get to to 6k when collabing with pomu

Female debuff

>>18622701
She should definitely get on the SC chart for this, she makes good money for someone of her size

Damn 5.9k for vox and pomu collab during his normal time.

>>18622785
As kino as the contents may be, re-enacting "Much Ado About Nothing" is most definitely not everyone's cup of tea.

>>18622679
>globalfag falseflagging so they can later cry about /#/

>>18622646
Green Lamy, Pink Lamy, Regular Lamy, Lamy Calva (the most powerful one) among others

Cannot visit nissin site without jp vpn and their site literally 404 earlier. So is their site so fucking shitty or legit ddos problem.

>>18622679
She is.

>>18622785
The fujos really hate the girls huh

>>18622899
so aggressive!

>>18623058
>>18622887
More like the content of the stream is filtering a lot of viewers.

>>18622888
which Shakespeare plays are considered buffs?

>>18621791
She sang Bye Bye Rainy and My Song.

>>18623125
Uh....I think Midsummer's night dream is the most popular one? After that it should be Romeo and Juliet, at least, for burgers.
Not sure how well that would translate to an audience at this hour though.

>>18623116
I don't think old english plays are very appealing to chinese girls. I'm surprised he doesn't have less

>>18623125
Romeo and Juliet with Vox and Ike

>>18623125
Romeo and Juliet always gets the views.

>>18623191
Yeah kino stuff. Now watch this one anon, if you still want some quality utawaku https://youtu.be/EYlaeyurnZw

>>18623191
AZKi is lowkey a music saviorfag
>streams 2view songs
>sings Watame's songs on her karaoke and 3d lives

>>18623116
but Vox is using his actual talent as VA, idk but male-female collabs don't do good as far as I notice

>>18623319
She also did that 74h non-stop 2view orisong. Hope she could arrange it somehow this year

>>18623125
>Buffs
Romeo and Juliet
MacBeth
Julius Caesar

>Debuffs
The Tempest
King Lear
The Taming of the Shrew

>>18623342
Because the fans of the men are mostly there for the chat pandering. It’s funny to me that Kronii almost went down this road as well.

How is Luna Lamy Lui collab zatsudan getting 20k

Vox should do roleplay of actual china kingdom dramas. Vox as emperor, other niji males as his subjects, nijien girls as queen and his concubines.

>>18623479
The numbers...
Well, at least she has her mental health(?) and dignity I guess?

>>18623518
Three drunkards talking.

* streams (tracked by live-ranking) over 20k so far, unfiltered *

The field is running a little skinny across the board. Didn’t Jun, KoreKore and other nips used to be represented here almost every day?

>>18623523
>nijien girls as his subject, nijien boys as his queen and concubines
Fify

>>18623559
There's also only 3 other HoloJP streams ongoing right now too. Fubuki, Subaru and Noel.

>>18623548
>at least she has her mental health(?) and dignity I guess?
Nah, she’s just dumb as fuck. Her reenactment of that old spice ad was one of the most awesome things to come from Council and it was not even pandering, just being a funny VA.

>>18623591
>Three Russian streams that I'm assuming are fucking cryptoscams

>>18623518
good topics, two hags with life experience talking about lots of things, Lamy being cute

>>18623342
His audience is mostly young ESL, so Shakespeare play filter them hard as well.

Aki's original song just popped up on my recommendations.

>>18623591
Is that going to be medals today? Coco would be proud. Weak day though

Plays are only good in 3D

Moona surely lives in some other universe away from the other ID girls

>>18623745
Incline?

>>18623745
Shallys or Heroine Audition?

>>18623518
Who doesn't want to listen to the drunken chat of two hags and a yakuza daughter? Every nip salaryman is relaxing before bed with this.

>>18623752
I hated reading Shakespeare during school but I actually went to a play once and it was infinitely better.

>>18623789
Damn...
I thought every single HoloID girl except maybe Iofi had escaped their 3-view prisons.

But it seems only Moona and Ollie have.
The rest seem to be reclining/regressing back to 3-views.

Hopefully they won't go the way of NijiID...

>>18623789
How is reine on a 3rd stream of unpacking?

Twitch current top 6.

>>18623804
I hope so.

>>18623832
Shallys

>>18623518
Luna is the collab goddess of hololive. She can bounce of anyone and can even salvage menhera and tummy horts on stream

>>18624035
the collab was a bit off at first but Luna became more and more comfortable later. She is shy but she gets used to it eventually. really glad

>>18624035
I remember the time Luna would not collab with anyone except for her guest appearances in Asacoco. Matsuri and Subaru saved this poor Niji abuse survivor

>>18623919
She’s a completionist. She did a second stream of NSO, wanting to do a third just to get all the endings.

>>18624035
>Luna is the collab goddess of hololive.
She's one of the oldest vtubers so it make sense

Ids tend to do a lot of debuff streams except moona and ollie. They will get 3 digits if they do debuff streams.

>>18624111
its incredible how a low tier nijigirl can incline if you give her a chance

>>18623935
subathon meta is kinda cringe ngl

Cover apologizing for La Plus fucking up a sponsorship apparently.
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1494687221689257984

>>18624426
It was done in the office and the retards they hire as staff fucked up all her audio settings, at least they apologized rather than throwing her to the wolves

>>18624426
>La Plus fucking
They seem to be saying it was a sound issue that prevented it from being streamed.

subaru is close to getting more views from a no-screen clannad watchalong than playing that shitty nier game

>>18624426
Apologies for unstable audio/tech errors.
Well, given the size of the sponsorship better safe than sorry.

>>18624502
Did she even streamed it or it was postponed?

If you are holoid, would you try to aim for the international audience or your local audience? Do you try to be that indie id girl and keep doing commer bait content and attract uneducated id kids? Just look at her comment section full of wkwkwk spam. I know moona has decent tws who love her karaoke and they donate quite a bit too.

>>18624295
It took them 2 years just to remove that Niji stink off hers. She's now inlining properly as a Holo girl.

>>18624566
International. Locals who can’t speak English are poor as fuck anyways.

>>18624566
Pandering to non-english IDs is a trap. Like Ollie said, you have to be pretty dumb and or purposely ignorant to not have learned English in Indonesia from what I've heard, and that directly correlates to if you're worth any sort of money as a viewer. A bit of ID here and there makes sense, but there's no reason to use the language 100% of the time.

Is this the highest viewer count for a watchalong?

>>18624566
The management basically forced them to pander back to the indogs.

>>18624690
18k, die-hard watchalong, Ame and Gura on Gura's channel. Dec 12th 2020, so after the first site-side culling.

>>18624686
As seen with Moona’s stats, even though she is majority English, her audience is majority Indonesian anyways.

It's past midnight now, you know what that means

>>18624785
English please

>>18624785
Source?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=fUneGc-vkSY
That dropped out of nowhere.

>>18623865
Please check the numbers. Or possibly your eyesight. NijiID's 3-view is much lower than Lofi's and Anya's

So Kiara EN gold of the day right?

>>18622044
>quantity over quality

>>18624849
There were a bunch much of things leaked from Cover's speaker deck, and one of the things was watcher statistics for Gura and Moona. Moona had a whopping 41% ID viewership (largest out of all regions) despite speaking so much English.

>>18624993
kys

Towa...

>>18624566
Pandering to EN speaking is the better way. Like anon >>18624686 said, most indon know english, or at least those who have monetary powers to buy merchs. Also it helped expand their audience inside the SEA in general and outside into the global a little.
Plus, when you are known globally, it's help with your fame locally.
Tbh with their wide reach of international audience, the ID manager should pitch them into the Nips ambassador or ID's ministry of tourism to promote their tourism when this whole cvid shit done.

>>18625022
I see. Thanks.

>>18625074
too big

>>18625096
How does Moona fare against other ID vtubers in terms of her music? It looks like she has EN levels (not Gura/Mori levels) of buff on her songs.

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

Here it goes
>19,426: Kiara (Hololive)
>9,667: Luca (Nijisanji)
>9,175: Kronii (Hololive)
>7,400: Mumei (Hololive)
>6,041: Vox (Nijisanji)
>5,465: Shu (Nijisanji)

>>18625250
EN Gold so far for February

1. Gura (Hololive) - 14,594
2. Amelia (Hololive) - 16,124
3. Baelz (Hololive) - 13,090
4. Gura (Hololive) - 15,901
5. Gura (Hololive) - 21,737
6. Gura (Hololive) - 15,900
7. Baelz (Hololive) - 9,914
8. Mumei (Hololive) - 15,409
9. Vox (Nijisanji) - 14,841
10. Mori (Hololive) - 21,458
11. Kronii (Hololive) - 11,342
12. Baelz (Hololive) - 12,112
13. Ike (Nijisanji) - 11,391
14. IRyS (Hololive) - 15,466
15. Nijisanji English Official (Nijisanji) - 22,662
16. Gura (Hololive) - 18,916
17. Gura (Hololive) - 16,266
18. Kiara (Hololive) - 19,426

Hololive - 15
Nijisanji - 3
Others - 0

>>18625207
She pulled the biggest number. Voice or other technicality related to it is subjective since the sibling from maha5 and some nijiID has amazing voices too.

>>18625250
>>18625282
kys

>>18625250
>>18625282
Kys

https://twitter.com/momosuzunene/status/1494694159265189890?s=20&t=xwj0NuBLKx5DcjYncODWXA
nene....

>>18625250
It would’ve been funnier if Kiara took the real gold today.

Just dropped https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUneGc-vkSY

>>18625250
kys

>>18625400
So, guess it was Nene that Kiara was talking about, about someone worried theyd recline taking a break.

>>18624892
>>18625437
They're overdoing the "error" part
It's cheap and worthless so far, no one does horror like this where you get 50 billion random horror flags before the actual fucking thing
Otherwise it's alright

>>18625250
What happened to Mysta's duolingo stream?

>>18625022
>Gura
Those japanese bussinessoji-sans were getting erect at the numbers she pulls, weren't they?
Was anything else leaked from it? Like Kiara's graduation date or Irys model revamp one?

>>18625495
Yea, that's some amateur horror shit. You need to slowly build it up tease it very, very lightly until the climax.
>>18625531
Storm in England rn, delayed.

>>18625531
Not sure, maybe it was cancelled? I didn't see it on the list when I went to compile the data.

>>18625531
Cancelled because his power/internet got fucked by an ongoing storm in London.

>>18625096
I mean, there is some ID facecam streamer who always manage to get into ikioi top 100 and pull way bigger numbers than any ID vtuber and even Gura does.
He is just and ugo fat fuck and speak full bahasa and chat is full bahasa as well.
Granted, most of his streams are that mobage LoL's rip off.

>>18623125
Richard III is the most kino Shakespeare.

>>18625400
Another addition to the Hololive injury list... this is getting crazy now, they're still managing to dominate the daily charts though

>>18625400
Context : her dog died.

>>18625879
Please tell me you're joking.

>>18625495
>>18625572
>You need to slowly build it up tease it very, very lightly until the climax.
They started dipping into horror after Haachama blasted that market wide open with her schizolore.

You are right that “pacing” is what they’re missing and that was exactly why Haachama was so successful.
She started with a simple case of “split personality”, moved to “there is actually a second real person, it’s not just voices in her head”, then teased “#coexist” as if a a cliche happy ending would be the finale then

>CUT OFF YOUR HEAD
>[sound effect of body hitting the ground, accompanied by a headless Haato model falling from the top of the screen after hanging Monika-style feet dangling for a while]

That mindfucked everyone in the audience in a way it’s impossible to describe, you had to be there.
Error is trying to recapture that audience but you can’t do that with jumpscares, if you’re not willing to defile something sacred it won’t go beyond “meh”

>>18625879
When did she say this ?

>>18625288
Can you name who in Maha5 and NijiID has great voices too? I want to listen to more new stuff

>>18625915
I'm not.
>>18625956
Roommate.

Kuzuha no-show today?

>>18625250
kys

>>18625983

>>18625489
And I mean...she is not wrong.
Look at Hachama.
BUT, she can gain those lost viewers with new ones with the right streams.
Like Hachama lately.

>>18625489

when she said that

>>18625976
Jeeeeeeeezuz. Well, guess she'll be streaming sporadically for the meantime then.

>>18625935
Any complication on the coexisting arc? Weren't there when it happened and i heard she had to private some of it.

What is a speaker deck and why is it noteworthy?

>>18625935
Someone send Cover's ERROR department a message and ask them to watch Gakkougurashi's first episode before trying to recreate Haachama's schizo shenanigans.
Or better yet, let Haachama write the script for it.

>>18625700
That's why i say they better nurture their international audience, since if they gain enough fame, they'll eventually got picked up by some overproud indon news or tvshows. Competing for the facecam audience is retarded since they are mostly normies who dont know anime aside from naruto exist

>>18626041
yeah ngl, youtube itself is another case but there is some ault on haachama, I think those who want to take multiple breaks should look at her as something that would most likely happen rather than someone like ayame or pekora
took many breaks will end you like her but that doesn't mean it's over, again like how haachama is doing, this week has been great for her from what I see in this thread
>>18625935
to this fucking day I still can't believe this woman decapitated herself on fucking stream, that's was literally beyond anything I've ever imagined a holo would do, and quite frankly I simply can't ever see it recreated again

Since NijiID and KR get folded into Nijisanji, will this mean we can see them featured in Niji main channel more? This might be good for them since main Niji channel get massive views.

>>18625879
Well, that means she will not stream for a month.

>>18626240
>This might be good for them
Since when being featured on the main channel did any good for any of the participating livers?

>>18625567
Gura pulling big numbers in 2022? Anon, yell a better joke please. These businessmen would likely go to IronMouse instead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ON2ZZHarMw
>took 1 month to hit 500k
She even had a real MV made... Koyori's days of having consistent 1m + covers is over. HoloX is the worst gen since Council.

Well, if you fuckers are bored since there's not much to discuss numbers-wise rn, go ahead and shit up this bait thread, because I'm seeing some silly takes (where you stand on things determines what you find a silly take)
>>18625155

>>18626295
nah. even in that tweet she isn't announcing a break but that she will take it easy and do guerilla if she feels up to it

IronMouse has been impressive lately. She is literally connecting vtuber world with IRL streaming world. Not joking but she feels more like the top vtuber in the world right now.

>>18626355
Her voice is unbearable in that song. Pink dog can't do a loli voice to save her life

>>18626102
>Weren't there when it happened and i heard she had to private some of it.
Self harm, suicide, non consensual sex, gore (and even vore) are sensitive subjects in general, and in particular for the Japanese.

Add to that the fact Haachama gives zero fucks and was actually "suicidal" (not the roommate, the character Haachama/Haato, more than willing to cross the line and have her channel banned) and Cover finally had to step in
They didn't even a new rule, only to apply the same one that arised after Coco got in trouble for implying Kanata hanging

>>18626419

ogey

>>18626419
>Not joking but she feels more like the top vtuber
Big fish in a small pond
>her numbers are mediocre when compared to regular Twitch streamers
>her numbers are mediocre when compared to regular Youtube vtubers

The only thing she has going for her is that her numbers are good when compared to Twitch vtubers, a case of "big fish in small pond"

>>18625958
>Maha5
Alia Adelia : https://youtu.be/XKBtPjgAH10
Andi : https://youtu.be/Ftglk4sl0MY
>NijiID
Zea : https://youtu.be/MvO4O4c1SNU
Taka : https://youtu.be/dir6-2jrwJU
Ami : https://youtu.be/5AyMIu2KAmI

>>18626240
Anon... You gotta let go. I know we joke about the ID tag being a debuff but you know what's even more of a debuff? Being an ID who's a part of a Japanese Corpo that employs over 100+ livers and has absolutely no box that you can play in to incline, and now you don't even have the ID tag to differentiate you.

>>18626355
FBK did it better.

>>18626419
>Not joking but she feels more like the top vtuber in the world right now
Is that why she has spent 2 weeks begging for money? Is that what the "top vtuber" does?

>>18626426
SC her and tell her to act her age and that old ladies pretending to be under 30 is pathetic.

>>18626543

This, lol. And even if they are included on the main channel they would need to appear consistently and be a big part of it to have any form of incline. A single interview or a short sketch won't make them popular enough to Nips carry

>>18626419
Isn't connecting vtuber wrold with IRL streaming world what Vei did by whoring herself to sodapopin?

>>18626419
>She is literally connecting vtuber world with IRL streaming world
>she feels more like the top vtuber in the world right now
Tell me if she do something picrel then i'll agree with you. Going around tokyo with some literall who anituber doesnt make you relevant

>>18626754
I'll have to be 100% sincere here and admit ignorance
>WHO THE FUCK IS THAT BLOKE?

>>18626631
I mean if even pmaru comment on it, then it's basically a stamp of approval as the best cover of the song

>>18626726
Reminds me of when they had Noor on the main channel after they fired everyone in that branch.

>>18626789
Me on the left.

>>18626789
Here you uncultured swine
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christoph_Waltz

>>18626754
Kek. Remains me of that pic where some officials from the Japanese Embassy took pictures with a cardboard cutout of Gura. VShoujo is definitely no. 2 in terms of EN companies but they're not even g-league tier when compared to actual corpos.

>>18626929
Japanese ambassador of New York and the governor of NYC iirc (might just be some random politician)?

>>18626051
never
she just said that Pekora doesn't have to worry about that kind of thing and that she wished JP members took breaks more often to look after their health

>>18626889
>Waltz' American breakthrough role came in Quentin Tarantino's 2009 film Inglourious Bast-
That explains it. I checked out of western dramaturgy in the early 2000s, I wouldn't know anyone doing anything more recent than what, House MD?

>>18624502
>It was done in the office
Are you sure?

>>18626789
the Jew Hunter

>>18626929
>>18626983

>>18625400
>nene....
>>18625879
>Context : her dog died.
Sorry Nene, living dogs are for grownups

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>25,019: Towa (Hololive)
>22,543: Suisei (Hololive)
>21,477: Luna (Hololive)
>19,382: Kiara (Hololive)
>18,866: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>16,836: Iroha (Hololive)
>16,228: Fubuki (Hololive)
>15,157: Mito (Nijisanji)
>13,759: Miko (Hololive)
>11,957: Choco (Hololive)
>11,257: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>10,826: Hololive (Hololive)
>10,399: Ange (Nijisanji)

A very skinny day with some unusual entries at the top

>>18625915
>>18625956
Roommate posts.

>>18627165
I mean, if this year they invite NijiEN females or Luxiem, I would grudge post so hard.

Seems like both Haachama and Aki managed to break the "algorithm blockade" they were under for quite some time.
After Aki's live and after the recent string of Haachama streams the algo is recommending her stuff to me with an increasing frequency

>>18627344
no way they invite Myth again

>>18627344
>inviting a bunch of fags that do hard whorish fujo pandering

It's a good day to be a yonkisei chad, shame Flare's tummy hort cucked Watame out of one of her funnel catching 10k late night specials

https://twitter.com/sakamatachloe/status/1494683137971949571
Chloe is going to finish JK tomorrow, watch out Voxy I heard your fujos are mad at you for collabing with Pomu, could the slip be on after all?

>>18627314
What a pathetic day.
Where are the top Holos...
Where is KING...

>>18627640
>watch out Voxy I heard your fujos are mad at you for collabing with Pomu

rrat?

>>18627640
holocucks are really becoming more and more pathetic, huh...

>>18627686
>Where is KING...
kek, very soon there will be a tweet for everything

>>18627686

>Where is KING...

>>18627640
>mad at you for collabing with Pomu
That’s a spicy rrat

>>18627787
>>18627788
to be fair he has been streaming a lot the last couple of weeks

where are the top holos though? I know that they are probably doing their idol reps but still... consecutive days without streaming?

>>18627686
Might as well post this one too

>>18627787
>>18627788

>>18627787
>>18627788
>>18627852
does the KING post these just so we can use them?
doesn't he have one for gold, too?

>>18627843
>where are the top holos though?
Every holo is a top holo. Look no further than today streams over 20k
>Towa x Chloe
>Suisei
>Luna x Lui x Lamy

That's a deluxe second string there hard carrying a slow day like today

Cover needs to release HoloID3 asap to rub salt on NijiID being fucking abandonned. Right now, Maha5 is the only competitor they have left in ID.

>>18628112
NijiID branch being disbanded ( and absorbed into Nijisanji) while HoloID gets to perform in their company’s biggest stage is quite the juxtaposition.

>>18626041
The thing that matters more than anything is consistency. If a vtuber streams as little as 2-3 times a week, they can still incline/maintain what they have as long as they do it consistently at a usual time slot and put up weekly schedules. It's not rocket science yet a lot of these girls refuse to do it.

>>18628207
It's not like NijiID is successful anyway, even HoloID can get gold on a good day like new outfits or debuts.

>>18628207
I'm still impressed at how good Cover is treating HoloID or any lower tier talents. They still get equal treatments despite not bringing big numbers. They have decent merch, they get funds for songs and they get to perform on stage with other higher tier members.

>>18628112
That will probably happen after 3rd Fes I think. Cover is busy preparing a bunch of stuff so debut is the least on their mind right now.

>>18628455
NijiID lost any chance they could have had due to their top talent nuking herself out of genuine hatred for numbers. "I don't want to be the only one in ID with a 3D model, I don't want to be so ahead of everyone else!" Now your entire branch is gone, because you hated your numbers instead of pushing for numbers to finally incline and trying to bring the others along.
Not saying she could have done anything to save ID, but certainly would have had a better chance than by literally destroying her channel.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/svkda4/to_all_overseas_viewers_kaigainiki_who_purchased/

kek because of nissin's outdated servers, kaigainikis needed to use VPN to watch Aqua's concert. The date of refund closed back in 24th. I'd blame this on Nissin, not accounting the large overseas fanbase of Hololive that wants to watch Aqua.

>>18628207
What good can a merger do aside from bloating the already bloated main Niji branch? Will they get proper support this way?

>>18628620
Actually retarded on Nissin's part.

>>18628644
On the contrary, this is a well known japanese corpo tactic for getting people to quit without having to fire them. They transfer them into a job position that will bore them to death and with zero possibilities of career advancement or support, and they eventually quit. It's basically because firing entire branches (Like IN) or worse, firing most of the branch talents and trying to keep the best performers is awful PR.

>>18628616
Hana had so many, so many chances. She speaks English, she is one of the first vtubers in the new age to be noticed by someone famous while playing Doom and the shtick with her father gets a lot of traction as well....And then she is suddenly gone from the algorithm. Just because she hates being in the top.

>>18628644
The management now has all the reasons to not give support to all these neglected talents. It's basically a termination without saying it explicitly.

>>18628746
Maybe if they tried to combine ID, KR and EN into a Global branch, then there is still hope. But putting them in NijiJP? That is just plain old weird and confusing.

>>18628746
I’d imagine they don’t want to scare the shit out of EN by firing two branches. It would send the message of “you better keep making us money”.

>>18628768
So basically it's them indirectly admitting that "Nijification" or whatever bullshit is not working.

>>18628847
That wouldn't have helped, it'd still be a "waste" of money on their part and neither ID nor KR have strong inroads into the global market, even with a few of the members doing the "honorary NijiEN" shtick and collaborating with the EN girls (And now boys) regularly. Anykara certainly wouldn't want to risk diluting EN by throwing in channels that have proven themselves to be failures.

>>18628850
No wonder NijiEN is streaming fucking nonstop. Luxiem and the girls feel like since they have so little collabs, merch and sponsorship, they have to make up with sc and membership. Or else the branch can be offed.

>>18628850
Or, they finally have proof that an overseas branch can make money and made them realize that the others are failing.

>>18628971
I wonder if Cover is seeing the failure of NijiKR and hesitating going into that market despite the popularity of Hololive in that country. After all, Cover is known to be super safe so a risk like that might deter them.

>>18629013
I think this is probably the case giving the timing. Considering they outright cancelled ongoing auditions, this move to shut down the KR and ID branches probably isn't that long in the making, and I'd bet it derives directly from seeing Luxiem's performance report being overwhelmingly positive and deciding that investing resources into the black holes of ID and KR that could be going to EN instead is a terrible idea.

It’s been a while since I saw Moona get this much on a solo Minecraft stream

>>18628847
Because if they do that, they'd be leeching off from NijiEN. They don't even pay Salaries, so if KR and ID is still not earning, it'll take a toll on nijiEN themselves since they don't earn that much on NA. It's gonna be Vox, Mysta, Luca carrying KR and ID like Kuzuha, Kanae and Toya carrying JP.

>>18629080
If they do that, they'd be making a bad move too since Cover is also trying to debut their own EN males and new JP males. So, clock is ticking for them. Luxiem 2 can't cannibalize the same audience in JP timeslot.

>>18629013
NijiID aren't even failing that bad if they have 5 gens. So why pulling the plug now? And what changed?

>>18629075
Yagoo said in a recent interview with Kiara that there are currently no new branches in the making, and Cover has had a long time to observe how much of a failure NijiKR has been, so I'd be surprised if HoloKR ever becomes a thing. And it's good that it won't, because it'd be a failure or extremely mediocre at best.

>>18629204
Where else can male NijiEN explore a new audience anyway?

>$50
>Most expensive out of all boxes
>Ugly Art
Fuck me, why cover

>>18629204
I imagine wave 2 of Nijimales would be mad if they’re not allowed to milk the chink fujos as well.

>>18629223
Luxiem happened. No reason to invest in failed branches anymore when your EN branch is finally inclining and actually capturing a valuable market which ID and KR never did.
>NijiID aren't even failing that bad if they have 5 gens.
They are, this is very much a case of "throw shit at the wall until something sticks", all niji branches have spammed a fuckload of waves at the start.

>>18629332
Kek, this is going to piss some lower NijiID and I'm waiting for one to lose their shit on stream.

>>18629316
Why though? It's not like they cannot share the same market. If anyone is pissed, it would be Luxiem if these young new guys start poaching their territories.

>>18629409
From what Mika said today, it seems like they’re still somewhat in the dark. They’re unsure if they’ll keep getting merch or sponsors.

>>18629306
It will be sold out anyway. And the funny thing is that Council debuts wayyyy after NijiEN1 and they still have more good merch than them.

>Nijis getting Elden ring permissions but at the cost of their ID and KR branches

>>18629332
>"throw shit at the wall until something sticks"
i wonder if Anycolor will ever realize that's an utterly retarded strategy
Cover has always done the exact opposite and it works wonders for your image as a company AND for your bottom line

>>18629466
Why is it that management ghost talents stories keep popping up in Nijisanji? What the heck is with their communication?
As much as we keep shitting on HoloEN management, it does seem like they are hands on with the girls and keeping them up to date with stuff.

Cover making games like Error and HoloAlt seems like a good investment to be sustainable in the future, another revenue for them though I've wished they'd make a gacha mobage instead of a botw/genshin/minecraft clone.

>>18629653
At least it works with 1 gen of NijiEN, and they still get a lot of money.

>>18629666
>keeping them up to date with stuff
ew nah, EN management is so out of date on stuff that it's embarassing. They're the ones who should look for EN perms, not relying on the main branch for perms.

>>18629332
It sounds like scum move but I think that's normal when you're a business. If HoloKr happens and succeeds, I wonder if they will come back Lmao

>>18629669
Gacha needs a big roster, something like Genshin can at least hide the small number of characters.

>>18629716
At least it's better than fucking ghosting your own talents and let them fend for themselves.

>>18629763
They can always run alternate versions of Holos or just copy arknights in the way they release characters

>>18629549

Just imagine the most messy scenario

>All NijiEN girls start playing it at the same time and overlap each other with FIRST TIME PLAYING IT!! (Bad peakes for everyone)

>Only Luca plays it from Luxiem but the streams do bad number-wise (Just like all his other Souls streams) because fujos don't care about the game

>>18629763
>Gacha needs a big roster
Jokes on you, it doesn't. Honkai for example has a small cast but different versions of the same character (be it in an alternate outfit, different setting, alternate universe, future versions or special powered versions)
Holo with over 60 members could easily do the same. Actually 60 members alone is already a pretty big roster.

>>18629757
That's a big if. However, Niji only cares about their branch rep and not individual talent. That is why their mass debuts strat is in place to maximize Niji branch awareness.

>>18629666
>>18629716
>They're the ones who should look for EN perms, not relying on the main branch for perms.
This point can't be stressed enough. Nips work in a "whole owned subsidiary" model, they give autonomy to their international branches in the expectation they'll be better suited to navigate the local waters than the japanese.

They also do that to be able to shut the subsidiary down without losing face if they don't perform adequately, as it's obvious in NIji's ID and KR case

>>18629850
Yeah, they'll probably overlap with each other a lot since they can't play them all at the same time.

>>18629713
no, not really, the only NijiEN gen that worked was the males cause that market was completely vacant
watch them oversaturate that market as well soon enough

>>18629306
Hey at least it's not the default pose.
>>18629653
In NijiID's case, it's because the ID management is getting fired.

>>18629757
It doesn't look like HoloKR is happening any time soon. Cover seems really afraid of any kind of controversy at the moment and Korean idol audience seems even more schizophrenic than JP.

>>18629850

i can see the girls start one stream after another of the game and ending up at NA prime time with like 4 or 5 of them playing it

>>18629850
I can see gura being mogged by the nijien boys for one month

>>18621819
> Irohasu
Oh my god we can actually use that again!
Fucking hell, I want a cute kouhai vtuber who calls everyone senpai.
> remembers haachama's pre Australia character
FOR EVERY KINO WE GAIN WE LOSE ANOTHER

it sure didn't take long for them to start abandoning side branches once Luxiem showed it could perform
really no surprise why certain talents have left Niji over the years

The people convinced EN market is dying to see retarded women play Elden Ring are hilarious.

Imagine this scenario:

You are either a NijiID or NijiKR vtuber. You just heard your branch was being folded. And you are kept in the dark the whole time.
Then, you look at the other side. You see both of their foreign branches being featured prominently in an expo and a FUCKING concert.

Sure, you are not there to be big or anything, but seeing Cover treating foreign branches really well must have been a punch to the guts.

>>18630173
nah, luxiem streamin in jp timeslot would'nt get 10k on elden ring cause other nijijps are gonna stream it

>>18630219
I think that along with having to cancel their major concert might’ve forced their hand.

>>18623125
I never thought I'd see a fucking sentence like that from /vt/#/ of all places

>>18630237
Absolutely. The game is going to be bigger in JP but even still it won't do as well as some people think it will. The whole Elden Ring posting reeks of either some really echochamber-y souls fan thinking it's the biggest thing in gaming or grudgepost setup.

>>18630268
Thanks to that, Riku had to deploy his own mage for the Rushia yab to happen. You do not kess with Riku, especially that old man Tanigo.

the fucking fromsoft intern is back to shill elden ring

>>18630380
Rushia is gonna get a buff from this anyways. She’s selling merch like she was before the yab (even the rings).

>>18623523
General Toya as well I assume

>>18630253
Luxiem is also dipping their toes on NA times. Reminder that Luca mogged Kronii today.
I can see Shu, Mysta and Luca get 15k playing that game.

>>18630350
It's not like playing Elden Ring will help NijiEN secure a relationship with Japanese consulate anyway.

>>18630350
The bigger game for JP this week is probably Touken Ranbu not Elden Ring.

>>18630463
That sounds like a stretch.

>>18630452
Until they get Tiktok girls to scream out their names, it will still mainly be Asian watching btw. Those dudes can't even get any traction on EN clipping scene alone.

>>18630501
Wait for Famitsu I guess. For PS there are Horizon Zero Dawn and Elden Ring and for Switch there is Touken Ranbu.

>>18630452
They clearly know the Asian market is theirs already, so the next step is the promising NA market. If they can get any Dream SMP guy to play with them, it's gon be big.

>>18630249
Probably why NijiID and NijiKR failed in the first place, management is too hellbent on not promoting them.

>>18629763
Even just Holo JP/EN/ID regular outfits + new years outfits + swimsuit outfits would be more than most gacha games.

>>18630658
They have no problems doing 2 streams anyway. Play the popular games on NA times and fujo baits on JP times.

>>18630742
I hope they make a gacha, imagine the revenue from something like that.

>>18630249
I remember when Hololive had that event with MikoDanye. Both HoloEN and HoloID pictures were plastered all over the street. That's how much Cover values all their branches.

>>18625250
>>18625282
the fuck? this shitpost became real? haven't been here in a while

>>18630816
Good on them for taking the fight to where it matters the most. Let's see if this will help them get more viral moments or better recognition.

>>18630884
I guess >we can’t do an ID gold anymore.

>>18630884
Some faggots ran with it due to the amount of seethe it generated, and now one anon has dedicated himself to it.

>>18630884
Yeah, mostly due to people thinking Luxiem were going to mog HoloEN. But for this month, HoloEN is doing way better than HoloJP is against corresponding Niji talents.

>>18630816
Luxiem is literally the only thing carrying Nijisanji these days and it's not even funny. They are pulling double shift to help Niji reach a bigger global audience.
Though they are still behind HoloEN somewhat.
How do you think they can be bigger?

>>18630983
Hey, if Luxiem gets viral clip or animation, I bet thry will attract more viewers.

Are women that bad at clipping or animating? Luxiem don't 3ven get any decent animation or viral clip on YT.

>>18630452
this is luxiem chat at prime NA time anon
>luca >mogged kronii
only in fake ccv he beat her, and thats by 0.5k

>>18630452
>>18631077 (me)
pic is the chat

>>18630452
>I can see Shu, Mysta and Luca get 15k playing that game.
Anon, all three can get 15k making cute noises to their fanbases.

>>18631026
And then they go to their stream and see them embarrass themselves by pandering to fujos.

>>18626419
>literally connecting vtuber world with IRL streaming world
> he thinks this is a good think
twitchfag nigga, why do you think vtubing became so popular during the lockdowns despite streamer houses and streamer groups already existing?

>>18627314
> 25k gold
> No (you)s at all
is Friday really the debuff day ? I thought that was debunked...

>>18631122
What is this meant to be proving?

>>18631134
So? That gets big numbers. Sponsors like big numbers.

>>18631122
>Luca’s soap
Are Fujos competing who can come up with the horniest name in chat? Can they even come close to Vox’s Cocksleeve?

>>18631129
>Cute noises

>>18627890
https://twitter.com/Vamp_Kuzu/status/1493585788092633089

>>18631122
Anon, there are times where their chat is probably terrible, but this is about as bad as how some of HoloEN's chats get at times.

>>18631235
>Sponsors like big numbers.
Depends on the audience. If big numbers in itself was the only consideration Luna wouldn't be the one getting Microsoft One Pass sponsorship

>>18631233
lets skip all your 10 useless replies and go straight to the part where you say "but i was only pretending to be retarded"

I wonder if Hololive Expo allows camera. I'm curious how big the areas for each branch will be and if fans can interact with any vtubers there.

>>18631346
?? the chat text doesnt say anything at all anon, you're meant to just look at the account names
captcha: VTDAD

>Holo"live"
>nobody is live
Why is this allowed?

Iroha pulled another 1 million yen in superchats today. I don't think any holo got close to that but how about other chuubas?

>>18629204
>Cover is also trying to [headcanon]

>>18631473
Most likely allowed for the booths, definitely not for the live stage.

>>18631555
you should watch AZKi's utawaku from earlier if you haven't seen it yet.

>>18629653
it's a good tactic when you're starting out, so that the spaced out yet relatively fast new gens keep attention on you and allow you to grow (assuming your first few waves were successful).
Problem is, Niji never stopped when they should have, and now they have what - 150? talents and only around 20 of them are even in the headspace of JP folks.

>>18631640
i dont watch jpwhores

>>18629669
>>18629757
Botan's "interview" with Yagoo had a section where Yagoo mentioned that they will likely be selling holo avatars and stickers for when you chat.
She also discussed the possibility of gacha and was personally against it because a lot of people wouldn't like it in an official game (despite the members' tendency to splurge for content). Chat also seemed to agree with it, and hoped Yagoo wouldn't go for it.

>>18631481
I have an account name in katakana so it's easier for JP chuubas to read but I'm not Japanese, stop being retarded please.

>>18631766
>have an account name in katakana
>stop being retarded

>>18631686

>enfag
>expecting streams

Thread is slow enough, for those who missed yesterday, here are the charts for the 30 days rolling median of average CCV for lots of girls, including all of NijiEN girls

HoloJP
>>18501891 :: Lamy
>>18499944 :: Haachama
>>18500137 :: Fubuki
>>18500317 :: Nene
>>18502675 :: Polka
>>18571251 :: Aki
>>18571365 :: Choco

NijiEN
>>18580121 :: Pomu
>>18580456 :: Elira
>>18580689 :: Finana

>>18579707 :: Selen
>>18580956 :: Petra
>>18581212 :: Rosemi

>>18581668 :: Reimu
>>18582325 :: Nina
>>18582678 :: Millie
>>18582937 :: Enna


Taking anon's request, here is Botan, to complete the Gen 5 roster.
It really seems like her numbers go up and down seasonally, any Botan fag know why?
Maybe she picks some debuff games on occasion and stick with them?

>>18631577
kson got 850k and Hakase incredibly somehow got exactly 1 million for her bday countdown (according to the twitter bot). There was a few other good performers and it'll be a pretty decent chart but nobody else that stands out in particular

>>18631937
What do the numbers on each point mean?

>>18632005
i dont think kson still classifies as a vtuber
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpH8SD7qCBs

>>18630988
I honestly have no idea lmao but comparing them to holoen sans gura, I think they're doing damn well already.

>>18632062
kek its the nimu strategy

>>18631937
I think she gets boosted when she plays FPS games, from her old audience and the Ru audience.

>>18630249
Dont forget that HoloID will AGAIN featured in AFA this year

>>18632040
number of streams in that month most likely

>>18632141
they are playing argentinian soccer league now? Fucking whores.

>>18631937
Here is all of gen5 put together in the same pic. All of them are experiencing an incline now, with Polka's incline being an "incline from recline"

January is an obvious outlier there because of CCVID

>>18627314
Even when Holos is at their weakest, they still dominate over everyone. That list doesn't really show how dominant Holos are day in, day out. When a Holo streams, it's almost guaranteed that they'd top that time slot. It's like fucking Lebron. Just show up and win the game.

>>18632040
>What do the numbers on each point mean?
>>18632163
>number of streams in that month most likely
Yep, number of streams in the period (30 days, in that case)

>>18632163
>>18632040
Reading the chart tells you what the chart means anons.
Right at the top (+ number of streams in the period) indicates how many streams are captured by that data point within the past 30 days of the point taken.

>>18632304
>>18632295
>>18632163
I figured, but I asked anyway since the number jumps weirdly sometimes (Like 34 to 29) and it'd be weird for girls to have done 5 streams in a single day.

>>18631937

>Maybe she picks some debuff games on occasion

It's hard to see her sticking with one game. She usually streams the trending game (Minecraft, Pokemon, Ark, Raft..), some FPS stuff here and there (COD) and one more random game for the sake of variety (Metal Wolf Chaos was the last one)

>>18632238
Kek nice one anon
>AFA
Anime Festival Asia, the biggest anime expo in SEA or probably Asia (outside of japan ofc) and HoloID usually has their own panel

>>18632342
Well, it looks like each of those points isn't day-by-day, that's probably where your confusion is coming from, given that it's not going 30+ points per month.

>>18632062
When kson first started using the vtuber model I asked you fags if I should add her in the charts when she uses it and got no objections. She's uses an avatar for >95% of her streams these days and for me that's good enough to count as a vtuber, otherwise I'd have to exclude Tamaki because of Norio's occasional facecam streams and I'm not going to go around purity spiralling as long as you're not completely taking the piss and doing more cam streams than vtuber ones

>>18632342
>>18632421
>it'd be weird for girls to have done 5 streams in a single day.
There are 7 days between each of these points

>>18632424
Just discard her facecam streams and be done with it, on the assumption she still does facecam

>>18632254
So this is Luca "mogged" kronii on a buff game, higher peak but worse median.

>>18632465
Yea, that makes sense.

>>18632521
That's what I've been doing the whole time, not just for her but anyone else who intentionally shows a part of their body other than their hands on a stream is disqualified for that particular day

>>18632424
you should exclude them both

>>18632251
>>18631937
Now here is Matsuri. One interesting thing about people lamenting her "recline" is that she was never a particularly heavy hitting holo, despite the MASSIVE name recognition she has.

More than everybody else in the company she was always more watched as clips than in her lives, thanks to her many viral translated clips that made her known with the EOP.
That, incidentally, is her biggest barrier to incline: she does not and never did pander to the english speaking base, and also she's a sweet girl playing vidya and being cute 99% of the time but the EOP audience wants the "pants pissing nipple bandaid wearing drunk foul mouth God incarnated" character the clips made of her, which she can't deliver

In this chart you actually see (without a label) the period she was practicing or playing APEX tournaments.

Is Rosemi now the top NijiEN female streamer?
She is getting 3.5k streaming Yu-Gi-Oh.

>>18632671
Nope, Selen still has her beat in the median, 2785 vs. 2593. Pomu is at her heels too with 2571

>>18632671
She’s been milking YGO hard. Pomu wants to milk it as well. She goes back to being a 1k shitter when she doesn’t stream that game.

>>18632671
>shill pomu and rosemi in every hololive thread
>they incline
many such cases

>>18627314
Hololive 9
Nijisanji 4

Medal sweep for Hololive but only a 8-2 top ten win.

Hololive seems to only win on slow days I guess.

>>18632671
Does she fall back to 1-1.5k if not streaming Yugioh? Then no.

>>18632661
Apex really is a huge debuff for her huh

>>18632254
>LeBJ
>Winning anything
How's the corpse of Melo and westbrick doing, by the way?

>>18632543
Luca finished the game two hours in and did zatsudan/sc reading for the remaining two hours. That's why you see the numbers drop off.

>>18632727
>>18632990
Her YGO streams are her highest when it comes to CCV but she doesn't seem to be an 1K shitter like you tribalfaggots seem to be implying.

They are definitely the reason though that she has now the 3rd highest CCV among NijiEN girls behind only Selen and Pomu (who is also inclining) and ahead of Elira.

>>18633035
>Lakies fucking suck
Literally the Nijisanji of the NBA. They have a dysfunctional roster whose success clings on a fucking KING and a dude who appears once every month.

>18632831
I swear he’s worst poster in this thread

>>18632661
Now, to complete Gen1, here is Mel.

She had a good thing going after her very sucessful live on Halloween 2021 but she streams too inconsistently to be able to sustain an incline and stay above 5k.

>>18630983
>this is what ensharts believe

>>18633892
im not sure why you still waste your time with fake ccv but, eh

>>18634016
shut the fuck up anon, the charts are interesting and your oshi sucks