/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>18593254
Dragoonkek....

Just watch who interests you and who you like, don't feel like you need to choose one company or the other

>>18593254
>Became a "Nijifag" after HoloEN gen 2
Yeah, you should go back

just watch whoever you want faggot its not that hard. if you dont have an oshi company loyalty is retarded

>>18593254
>turning niji
>trying to turn back
Just stop watching vtubers at all.

>>18593476
Have they really become that good?
I heard Mumei sing this and it hit me super hard.
https://youtu.be/5CINHxO1AxY
And I don't even watch Mumei

>>18593254
Same

Luxiem destroyed the dynamic that I enjoyed so much with NijiEN. I went back to HoloEN and I'm glad I did. IRyS is the best EN vtuber out there and I love Bae and Mumei as well.

>>18593254
Watch males and be a faggot.

>>18593636
I don't know anon, I don't watch them. I just think you should go back

>>18593567
>just watch whoever you want faggot its not that hard. if you dont have an oshi company loyalty is retarded
That's the thing, I can't enjoy their dynamic now because more than 50% of the streams are collabs. Selen is the one i will still continue to follow though

>>18593254
Watch small corpo or indies

>what should I do?
Imagine being so spineless and brainless, unable to make an opinion or choice without asking your hugbox for permission.

Love NijiEN girls
Wish Luxiem would all graduate

>>18593649
>Luxiem destroyed the dynamic that I enjoyed so much with NijiEN.
I generally ignore niji stuff, is this a particularly widely held opinion amongst people that jumped from holo to niji before the males?

>>18593739
Then just watch solo streams, you faggot. I never watch collabs because I don't like people talking over each other

>>18593699
Worked for me. I've been enjoying vtubing a lot more since giving nijimales a chance.

>>18593891
I'm genuinely happy for you anon, but most people aren't faggots.

>>18593879
yes, some of the holoniggers refugees that ran to niji are going back, the rest are busy crying over muh males. hopefully they will all fuck off right on time for holostars en.

>>18593879
Yes, only the homos are watching the luxiem members.
The one thing I will say that i despise about them is the BFE.

I thought nijifags loved bragging about their "spontaneous collabs"

>>18593879
>holofags ask about Nijisanji
>are warned that males will exist like in all other branches (rip)
>still watch
>still get triggered when men exist
>start lying and saying things like "NijiEN never used to collab/do impromptu drop-ins/ship each other/tweet about discord shenanigans before m*n!!!
>other holonewfags eat it up
rinse repeat recycle

>>18594008
Yeah, they're great, your point?

>>18594008
It makes the collabs feel way less special now. Its like people talking over each other all the time

>>18593891
Well you finally found something compatible with your faggotry

>>18594008
It's not us complaining though. A good equivalent would be the people upset over Mori in your side.

>>18594008
Not when they show up in member streams

>>18594103
So falseflagging? I can believe that. I've always seen nijfags treat constant collabs as the biggest appeal, so I don't they'd ever complain about it.

>>18593254
HoloEn are like preschool babysitters compared to NijiEn

>>18593649
It destroyed the dynamic in what way?
It improved the dynamic if anything.

>>18594052
>saying things like "NijiEN never used to collab/do impromptu drop-ins/ship each other/tweet about discord shenanigans before m*n!!!
You kidding right? That's literally one of the main things they used to sell and brag about NijiEN.

>>18594272
I am not kidding they post this shit every day in the NijiEN general, like the OP, that Luxiem changed the behavior of the entire branch regarding collabs
because they're fucking newfags

>HOLOBRONY FALSEFLAG BTW

>>18594324
but where did he say that >Luxiem changed the behavior of the entire branch regarding collabs
He just said he is falling out of love with Niji.

Ignore mobileposters and ESLs

>>18593254
If you ever liked Kronii you never had taste.

>>18594531
>Sorry, I can't understand retards

>>18594267
I enjoyed the chemistry the girls had and enjoyed watching them together. Now I gotta see these fucking faggots everywhere and the uniquely female dynamic of NijiEN is dead. Thankfully HoloEN exists.

>>18594552
Sekkusu...

>>18594609
>HoloEN
>dynamic
Good one!

>>18594260
Just because there are some family friendly Chubbas does not mean their content is worse Nijikek.
Rosemii is pretty family friendly, and I think she is the most loved Niji on this board.
Same with IRyS from Holo

>>18594756
you don't watch them

>>18594552
Given where you are, must really tough being completely deaf

>>18594800
Name anything that happened in the last 7 days that can prove you right

>>18593417
The only reasonable take.

>>18593254
I think you should just watch vtubers and not be a tribalfag

>>18594756
>Mumei-Gura
>Mumei-Kronii
>Kronii-Gura
>Kronii-IRyS
>IRyS-Bae
>Bae-Mumei
>Gura-Ame
>Sana-Ina
>Gura-Calli
If talking about group collabs
-KIRA
-CHaD
-MGK
-FMK
and a lot more

>>18594800
neither do you, or you're just autistic. it's all been fake and dead for months now

>>18594850
>Name anything that happened in the last 7 days that can prove you right
-HoloX-Council
-Bae-Fauna Resident Evil

>>18594895
Wtf HoloEN streamed this much in 7 days? Holy shit

>>18594946
>Just recently, Mumei and Bae collaborated with the HoloX members. It was a fun stream
And Fauna-Bae collabs are always fun

>>18593254
Just let em go, anon. Luxiem ruined all the good vives. Especially Shu and his need to leech from every single one of the girls. Fuck that guy.

>>18593879
It really isn't. The fags replying are just scorned faggots that didn't heed the warning that the MALES where coming. The threads are still going strong and a lot of people in the threads wanted males. When males finally showed up it chased off the retards like >>18593649
the guy you're replying too or this faggot >>18595185. It did have the negative effect of attracting some mentally ill femoids into the threads but they're a lot less obnoxious than the, "MUH DYNAMICS, MALES RUIN EVERYTHING" faggots that selectively forget all the male interactions that already happened before the Luxiem debut. NijiEN has gotten a lot more fun to watch as they've the old hag and the male autists.

>>18595185
Eyyyyy

>>18595185
>4k easy streamer
>leeching
From fucking who?

>>18594824
No anon, I am not with the Nijikeks and Holo Antis. So i think i am good.
But talking to you made me deaf

>>18594609
Niji EN collabed with men from Niji JP, ID, and KR, not even mentioning indies. All before wave three came out. Also if they are faggots then you shouldn't be threatened by them since they aren't sexually attracted to women.

>>18593254
This is why I only watch Selen. She is almost like an indie since she never collabs with anyone in Nijisanji.

>>18593254
I stopped watching NijiEN when IRyS debuted. IRyS is the best!

>>18595264
Its not only that anon, some of us are actually falling out of love with Niji EN, and the boys have nothing to do with it.
I think Ike is my fav Niji member but some of the NijiEn males are resorting to the BFE, which has made me drop three Niji Vtubers

>>18595543
I mostly watch NijiEN these days, but Kiara and IRyS are still two I check out often. How is IRyS such a good girl?

>>18595470
>Niji EN collabed with men from Niji JP, ID, and KR, not even mentioning indies.
True but those guys were not giving the BFE anon. I think Ike is the best Niji Tuber but Mysta and Akuma are not my cup of tea

>>18595673
Yeah, and I don't like BFE because it doesn't appeal to me. They aren't as good in solo streams but in collabs the boys are great since they don't pander to their audience.

>>18593254
You realized that beyond liking them for not being as popular as hololive en they are the same shit with a different coat of paint

>>18595785
when the boys are collabing with each other, no
when with the girls, yes but if they keep collabing all the times, the collaborations looses its magic personally and makes the special event less special

>>18595902
>special
Collabs are not special. Go away.

>>18595832
How?
only Selen and Elira and Rosemi and Pomu are like that, if talking about the design

>>18593254
Wait for the new NijiEN wave or find a 2view you like.

>>18593649
>>18593873
>>18593948
>>18593974
>>18594064
>>18594609
>>18595185

>>18595935
>Collabs are not special. Go away.
The full branch collabs are super special, stfu.
Watch the Lazu Light 6 month anni and tell me it was not special. My point is that if they collab this often, special events like those will suffer

>>18596052
You are a faggot if you like them for the BFE.
Ike is by far the best Niji EN male tuber and you can't say otherwise

>>18596052
Mr. Coom

>>18594609
>the uniquely female dynamic of NijiEN is dead.

Why would you watch NijiEN or Nijisanji at all strictly for the "uniquely female dynamic"? when the other company specializes in that shit?

>>18596052
Everytime

>>18593417
Unity-chad.

>>18593649
True, the girls just feel like side characters or accessories to Luxiem, now.

>>18596055
>comparing an anniversary collab to friends fucking around daily
Sorry, Nijisanji is not for you, as you have 0 social awareness

>>18593254
Watch IRyS, Mumei and Gura if you want to get back in Holo. Those three are the best 3 english speaking Vtubers personally.
Gura has had atleast 1 memorable moment from every stream.
Mumei is by far my fav entertainer from Hololive. The way she uses her lore and character is just too fun. Also she is naturally funny like Gura. Excellent content creator.
For IRyS, well i don't need to say anything. She is the most loved Vtuber who speaks english(alongside Pikamee).
Also, if watch Ame if you have time. She is the leader of Hololive EN

>>18596640
>s you have 0 social aw
Are you retard?
Do you even get what I am saying?
I never said Collabs are bad. BBut if they are collabing every second stream it will not feel special anymore you braindead potato. And unlike you i have been following Nijisanji En since LazuLight, love every single girl and this is a minor feedback that i have.
So stfu dude

>>18596785
It really hurts me when I see new nijigfags who claim they know everything. As i said, i was a Niji fan since day 1, and quite honestly, the big collabs feel less special if they keep collabing every single time. I remember the Lazu-Obsydia days, at that they started the un scheduled collabs and they were great. But they were not like this every second stream.

>>18596785
Tell me why you think collabs are special, and take care to not sound like a retard who's never experienced humans interacting and somehow thinks friends dropping by to chat is a breathtaking experience shelved for only the most specialest of occassions

Never going back. NijiEN is simply better.

>>18593254
Watch anime. Vtubers are on the decline. It's time to abandon ship.

>>18596943
gadhidqwhiuqhdhqod
Are you even getting what i am saying use dumb fuck???

>>18597015
Wrong!!!!!
Both are good

holy schizo

You guys are sad.

>>18596943
Because it's simple, I am watching a specific streamer for that stream. If i am not following the company and only following someone like Millie, I want to watch Millie. Occasionly, its great to see her collab unscheduled, but if i am not really interested in the collab and want to see only Millie play games. Why is it so hard to understand?
I think its common sense.

>>18594531
Rent free.

>>18597029
>unable to explain why collabs are special
>>18597282
>unable to read a reply chain
Why are Holofags like this

>>18593254
Dragoons?

>>18594195
Wait is that an actual thing in NijiEN? jesas

>>18597734
>unable to read a reply chain
>Why are Holofags like this
Why are Nijifags so fucking dumb??
I am not tribal fag.
I don't care about Hololive. Could not even give a shit. I only follow Mumei, Kronii, IRyS, Ina, Gura and Amelia.
WIth Nijisanji I only follow Millie, Petra, Rosemii and finana. I could give a shit about the othe members.
No wonder why people dont like you guys at all.
Guess they are right in saying Nijifags are dumb

>>18593254
>liked Kronii from the beginning.
holy moly be less obvious

>>18598381
what's wrong with Kronii?

>>18598419
bro.

>>18598365
Why can't you answer my question? Did it contain words you don't understand? Why are you watching Vtubers who speak a language you don't understand?

>>18596785
>>18596900
Who cares if collabs are "special" as long as they're entertaining?

>>18598108
Just once so far but phantomos are endlessly cucked to begin with so the amount of people who had a problem with it are probably few

>>18598438
Seriously, what's wrong with Kronii, I think she is good and i love her voice

>>18598444
>re you watching Vtubers who speak a language you don't understand?
naa i am just telling you why I feel collabing all the fuckin time is stupid.
I am watching that streamer.
If i were a Nijifag, maybe i would have liked it

>>18598505
I'd rather which paint dry than tune in to her streams but to each their own.

>>18598668
You do you. I count give a shit about your opinion.

>>18598719
I just don't know what anyone could see in a streamer with the entertaining capacity of a houseplant.

>>18598789
I don't what your parents see's in a braindead child like you similarly who is malding over an anime girl

>>18598911
Chill, Anon, I'm just trying to save you from yourself.

>>18593254
You actually should go back and never return, especially if the reason is males.
If the reason otherwise is simply boredom or dissatisfaction, you can try Council out. I doubt you'd enjoy any of them though, because they've barely changed other than Mumei being 30% more active and Kronii 30% less, but it never hurts to have a try.

WATCH ONLY KIARA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWGwRRPc6O0
STREAM SPARKS!

>>18598941
>rosemifag
>save anyone
Bruh

>>18598498
Pretty sad can't have an alone time with your oshi even while paying

>>18593254
Holy flaseflag almighty

>>18593739
Just watch Selen normal streams and skip the collabs, this week she only have 1 collab and its tomorrow, you don't have to watch all the streams.
Also i hope you enjoy Demon Souls Mondays!

>>18593254
I still like Pomu and Elira

Its sad by NijiEN really declined. When it was just Lazulight and Obsydia those were the golden days. Every stream was amazing and the collabs were fantastic. Then along came Ethyria and they were a fucking disaster in more ways then one. Then along came Luxiem which was like a nuclear bomb to the entire branch. Totally killed the NijiEN "spirit".

They are now dead to me. If only they would have stopped after Obsydia.

>>18600869
So true sister

>>18593636
I hate that song

>>18596052
I'm actually really happy that Luxiem showed up because they're filtering the shit out of retards, they bring a new crowd of people and the girls are inclining since they showed up and even have a lot more female fans. Everyone is happy except some retards in /vt/ so it's the best outcome

>>18600869
Yeah, Ethyria was like the canary in the mineshaft and should have been a huge warning that something went wrong. Ethyria were a disaster from day one and we should have known that it was about to get a lot worse (Luxiem).

>>18593254
Irys is all you need Anon. She is a thousand times better than any HoloEN

>>18593879
I think it's because Luxiem is far more "invasive" than expected. Constantly crashing in the girls' streams and sometimes derailing the stream/topic. To others, it's the constant "zoomer" humor they brought in. The golden era or Lazulight/Obsydia is gone.

They should give Selen a tanktop or something aready so her sexy assets are better appreciated. Also this guy forgot her tail

>>18601574
she already have tanktop!

>>18601623
Yeah, but I mean a new look that she can easily use. Like, Elira has been showing off her booba all the time ever since she got her new look

I've fallen in love with NijiEN ever since the homos debuted, they're funny bros POG

>>18601492
im enjoying my purple dragon without any interference of a man
and they didnt make a drop of difference
bobon, ipn, rpr, tempplex, restia was there before then
they are just new batch on the scale

>>18594461
Not him, but
>>18593649
>>18594609
>>18595185
etc

>>18601492
>all things Lazulight did and are known for
que?

>>18602078
Based

>>18598618
But you literally have not said why. Try watching HoloID, it's more your speed.

>>18600869
>obsydia
>golden days
Keep telling yourself that

>>18543411
I don't want to hear it, take your cope where it belongs or go yell a Rikku

>>18601686
thats all about toggle options
even after an new outfit for selen her original L2D might get 2.0 with the ability to remove the baggy longsleeve

Enna is the only one that has tons of options but nijiEN as a whole has better L2D than ID and KR

>>18602180
Yes

>>18594895
You're missing out on solid Kiara-Ina interaction.

>>18602106
Sure, Lazulight did that a lot but Luxiem seems to be taking it up a notch, lady.

I'm the other way around, been a chumbud for a year but got linked to enna singing the new kimetsu OP, then got into it for real via nijiEN debut songs.

>>18602197
EN began with 2.0 and I'm tired of repeating it. If you watch ID's 2.0 unveiling you can see that they can move at the same degree that EN does.
Enna's mama just loves her enough to have all those toggle options.

>>18602078
You missed the point. It was never because they were male. Luxiem in particular mjust happens to be far more intrusive than the other guys you mentioned.
Do you see the likes of ipn, rpr or bobon crashing on Selen streams often? None of them do.

>>18602376
thats a (you) problem
is the same as the girls dropping in on streams
do yourself a favor and drop out like OP
if a man on the branch is enough to make you uncomfortable/dissatisfied hololive is your only option

>>18600869
I feel Ethyria really is the only objective downer in the entire NijiEN branch. All of them but Nina are still ways away from 200k, and their debut period was marked by a general decline in NijiEN viewership. All of them have VERY frequent technical issues with streaming, ranging from cancellations/delays to opsec failures that end up leaving their VODs privated for a long while. On a more subjective side Nina and Reimu only really stay relevant by clinging to Luxiem, while Millie and Enna are only barely carrying the wave.

Luxiem massively rejuvenated NijiEN. It also brought in a massive shift in its culture which alienated the viewers that had the impression of NijiEN of being Holo-lite, for better or worse. Unfortunately, some of these "viewers" (emphasis on the quotes) are the type to stir shit.

>>18602561
Interesting how you got to that conclusion, lady. It's not the same at all. It never was.
It was never just because it's men.

>>18602376
>it was never because they were male
>it's because they are male
Just say you're a misandrist

>>18602561
I kind of feel like he does have a point though. It's almost always one or more of the guys joining on a girls stream for impromptu collabs now. You barely ever see it the other way around with the girls invading a guys stream and its also far more common than a girl joining on a girls stream.

>>18593417
No need to be a tribalfag, watch who you want when they play something you like or have a zatsu
I tuned in to Selen because Hololive refuses to touch Metro 2033 just cause it's got commies and nazis

>>18602745
Did you like it?

>>18602615
I'm rather curious on how they'd handle a new wave whether it'd be another male wave or a mixed one.

>>18602703
Huh? Someone's clearly missing the point here.
I was never because they're males. That was never an issue, lady.

>>18602615
I also forgot to mention that Reimu and Enna both fail to take advantage of their utaite experiences to buff themselves. Imagine if they did PUBLIC karaokes on the regular, as well as some more covers and originals.

>>18602768
It was super fun, I love how she ran out of ammo before the first fight ended and how she wanted to let Bourbon keep his AK if he stuck with her

>>18602904
Good, I'm glad you enjoyed my oshi!
I think she plans to go with another Metro stream next week, Demon Souls in Monday and she will finish Wolfestein too

>>18593417
No, but (my favorite company) is better than (your favorite company).

I think flocking back to HoloEN for a return to the "solo experience" is useless anyway unless you intend to watch Sana or Kiara. The rest have numbers way too big that you have to be extremely lucky to get your non-SC chats read, something which tends to happen a lot in NijiEN.

>>18602785
I just hope they mix in the new wave so those Holocaust can get back to their home

>>18595587
>Its not only that anon, some of us are actually falling out of love with Niji EN, and the boys have nothing to do with it.
I'm kind in these boat, started losing interest in the branch around Ethyria's debut and dropped it completely a week or two before luxiem was announced, which was kinda frustrating timing since I was one of the people excited for them to add males to NijiEN, though seeing how Luxiem is... I'm actually kinda glad I dropped the branch when I did, Luxiem honestly doesn't look like my cup of tea.

>>18602987
If she plays Last Light and/or Exodus I'll join her membership

>>18603125
She will!
She said she will play the current Metro in normal difficulty to learn the mechanics and then she will play the other Metro games in Max Difficulty, it will took a long time since she still have
>DMC games
>Souls games
>Assassin Creed games
all in queue

>>18595264
I don't have a problem with the males, I watched NijiJP for year before NijiEN. But I wish they would tone down collabs in general regardless of the sex involved. It used to be that they would do a couple of collabs a week and the rest solo streams with maybe one of those having someone join on for a bit. Now it's not uncommon to see schedules that are 5 collabs and 2 solo streams and then one of those solo streams gets people joining on to it.

The whole reason people like collabs to begin with is that you get to see the people you like and become of fan of based on their solo content interact with other people. For example I don't get excited when a bunch of random holo vtubers do a collab together because I don't even know any of them and am not a fan of them. But if you are doing so many collabs that the solo content barely even exists anymore because they are just doing collabs all the time why even care about the collabs? The content that you were a fan of is gone.

>>18602734
Who would thought the men has the balls to just join
before was "we love impromptu collabs" then came nina "she should stop invading streams" kosaka, now the guys just aint shy fucks, I can only imagine the pomudachis malding when Vox joined mariokart yesterday

>>18603852
Pomu herself said at the opening of the Mario Kart stream that she set it up for any NijiEN to be free to join particularly in mind.

>>18593254
it's time to give the shojos a go, anon. unironically. at least give 'em a chance and see if there's anything you like.

>>18603920
They would expect the other girls
but then came Vox that even pomu got surprised that he wanted to play
of course the reason was kat gaming and not mariokart itself

>>18604005
Fuck off VShocuck

>>18602830
>lady
>everyone I don't like is a woman
I'm not the one shaking and crying over men. Do they possibly trigger your PTSD?

>>18604005
Lul deleted POMF POMF because men bad

>>18604040
vsj does have some retarded posters who don't belong here, though there's also a LOT of falseflaggers pretending to like them. neither of these facts are relevant to the streams' quality.

Take the small corpo pill, brother.

Luxiem ruined NijiEN. There, I said it. Hope you enjoy all the Chinks who are bringing Luxiem all these viewers because NijiEN is dead.

>>18604005
How do you twitter users keep finding this place?

>>18604005
Yass I heckin' love feminism!

>>18604349
how many years ago was this

>>18604304
i have been active in /hlgg/ since summer of 2020 anon
i only ever go to twitter for art.

>>18604349
There's vtubers in both HoloEN and NijiEN who've posted something this bad or even worse years ago and the only reason we're not allowed to discuss that is because they changed their online alias. I thought this was a thread to propose vtubers to OP, not dwell on drama that's already been talked about to death.

>>18604431
Holy shit an oldfag! Can I get your autograph?
Did they have internet back in your day?

>>18604513
I'm just letting OP know which vtubers he should avoid, nothing wrong with that.

>>18604431
/hlgg/ has gotten worse and worse after getting infested with deadbeats.

>>18604431
>cuckbeat is into vshowhores
Figures

>>18603462
Which Niji exactly only streamed solo rarely? Pomu is the one most frequently shitposted and she literally just had a full 7 hour solo stream just yesterday alone.

>>18604630
he'd be depriving himself of an actually really good choice because of either years old drama or shit written by a discord tranny that isn't even enforced. anyways I'll stop giving you (you)'s, I'll leave OP with a list of good starting streams

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1282823513 (very recent redebut + lore)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAjI6mDkbQs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STC1dpNaPY4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3aG4I6Nuv8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO_-KgttZMM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED-vvllv73k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3L8BDTKsmA

>>18604741
i was just looking for any pic from that era, but hey the fact that you fixate on that proves you're just some irrelevant dramanigger, thanks for the peace of mind

>>18604820
Where the fuck did you come from? Fucking leave. VSlutshow isn't welcome on this board and they never will be. You are lucky you even have a containment thread. Fucking go back.

>>18604005
You got a great selection of streamers, such as rabid feminist pink cat, slurring cunt with a boyfriend, text to speech tranny, divorcee who cheated on her husband, connors one use fucktoy and the other one. Wow!

>>18604820
Go back. Your oshi would hate you for posting here.

>>18604920
Don't talk to them, anon. the more (you)s they receive outside their single thread the more they'll think they're welcome here.

>>18605013
They deserve to be laughed at.
Hopefully others can join us too.

>>18604920
>Ironwhore
>One use disposable onahole

>>18604820
She dropped us lolicons that loved her content back then, so fuck her I dropped her too

>>18593254
I can't stand luxiem

>>18602376
Sorry, the only reason Ike can enter into Selen's stream in the first place is because she wants him to - she can choose to either completely stream solo or hang out in the VC instead, waiting for other members to join her, and she opted for the latter. Kinda weird just blaming him for it.
Of course if you watch Selen you'll know she had a lot of solo streams too, more than some other members let alone holos will stream in a week, but hey threadwatchers be threadwatching.

>>18593254
Hololive EN and Nijisanji EN are not the only options you have. The fact that you're acting like you can only only watch from those two groups makes you look like some tourist retard.

>>18604263
>NijiEN is dead.
To (you)

>>18604793
Her schedule this week is 2 solo streams and 4 collabs?

>>18605134
Selen also talks to her members a bunch with solo time, but Dragoons who hate her because Ike streamed with her will never know this. They also don't watch her to hear her say she purposefully sits in collab VC with certain games.

>>18605320
>but Dragoons who hate her because Ike streamed with her will never know this
Not OP but i don't hate her or Ike... i just got mad that the stream had someone backseating the entire time killing the magic of the first stream. There is nothing wrong in disliking something
ofc i blame Gator, D-Dragon, Velv and all the other Discordfaggots for delaying SADX... FUCK DISCORDNIGGERS

>>18605255
3 solo, 4 collabs but one of them was company mandated

>>18605504
and the week before that more collabs than solo, and the week before that and the week before that

>>18593254
Join the HoloEN+Tsunderia+PRISM+Phase Connect movement, this will be the true Unity in the future

I want to breed Rosemi and Petra at the same time

But i want to waifu these fucking insane girls and never stop worshipping them

>>18605614
Seriously. Its amazing how NijiEN killed all their good will with the debut of Luxiem. They are like a cancer spreading and killing the entire branch. Ruining collabs and being the most obnoxious pieces of shits imaginable in their solo streams.

>>18605664
>Unicorns mad at men
>Before that it was Nina
>Before that it was Petra "gura killer"
>Before that it was Finana
>Before that it was their debut in general
There's no pleasing your ilk. just filter any threads with "nijisanji" and go back to defending Rushia

>>18605610
Last week was 6 solo, 4 collabs
The week prior was 3 solo, 4 collabs, 1 sponsored stream
She basically keeps them 50:50

>>18605664
god forbid people talk to their coworkers and friends.

how anyone can be a fan or have a female oshi in NijiEN and stomach that shit now that they constantly have males jumping in and interacting i'll never know.

>>18605766
Last week was 4 collabs and 3 solo, the week before than was 4 collabs and 2 solo streams, the week before that was 4 collabs and 1 solo stream.

>>18605877
I'm not even a unicorn. Its just that the Luxiem boys are all obnoxious pieces of shit with no shame. They are so off putting and their solo streams are even worse.

>>18605614
>Tsunderia
Out

HoloEN will be out too soon

>>18605614
HoloEN acknowledges other groups now?

>>18605877
That only happened 1 time with my dragon wife and it was in SADX
Since she is a tomboy and interact with everyone you eventually get used to it since it just her playing games with friends at the end of the day

>>18605932
Green is Solo, 6
Red is Collabs, 5 (I forgot she played The Forest, since she joined last minute and didn't stream her POV)

>>18605957
Yeah, I don't like them at all. They almost feel like invaders sacking the NijiEN cities and destroying what I once treasured. They don't fit in at all and you just can't get away from them.

Now I'm beginning to understand why so many fans of the NijiJP girls just abandoned Nijisanji and switched over to Hololive. That was the tipping point where the males surpassed the females in NijiJP and Manjisanji begun.

>>18606059
Only the rapper and the chicken do, and mori loves Vshojo while Kiara loves NijiEN

>>18593636
Why do people keep saying Mumei's a good singer? She's average at best

>>18606197
bae talks to other companies all the time on twitter from her indie days

>>18606208
because by hololive standards she is a good singer lmao

>>18606208
Because holofags think mori is a good singer and that the HoloEN Country Roads was good

>>18606197
I guess unity really is a pipedream

>>18606208
Because simps are retarded and always think their oshi is teh best singer evar.

Speaking of which, have you listened to Journey yet?

>18605998
One of the few times I see Kazu on this board and it's for a shitpost in a bait thread, fuck...

>>18598482
holofags, because to the ones who started watching in 2020 collabs must feel special

>>18606250
>holofags think mori is a good singer
Only deadbeats think that

>>18606305
Journey is amazing. I've probably listened to it 100 times by now.

>>18606250
>HoloEN Country Roads was good
Isn't the general consecus even among Holofags that it sucks? Seem to remember people saying that even the talents didn't seem too happy about it.

>>18606388
Depends who you ask and when, but the overwhelming majority at its initial launch was positive, same with Gura's solo and anything else Hololive squeezes through the Hamsterdance/auto-tune filter

>>18606312
Sorry Tsunbro, he got caught in the crossfire

>>18605658
>But i want to waifu these fucking insane girls and never stop worshipping them
The dynamic duo of Millie and Enna is just insanely powerful. And that's with them being very insistent in discouraging parasocial shit. If they went all-in on a sort of dual GFE it would be world-ending.

>>18606208
mummers is #3 in holo EN and above average for Hololive as a whole

>Chance of Selen playing Apex with Froot (Again)
100%
>Chance of Selen playing with Ame
.05%
>Chance of Froot playing with Ame
.01%
>Chance of the 3 good Apex players from 3 different companies playing together for a legendary stream
0%

>>18593417
based

https://files.catbox.moe/jtzfmx.mp3

>>18606634
Delusional. They're discount Luto at best.

>>18606747
best vsinger
too bad she pops all cds first boss fight and then can't do it again for days

>>18606193
>invaders
>numberfagging
>"manjisanji"
You anons make it so obvious.

>>18605391
fuck you for SADX
you and all the piece of shits that forced this game to be finished
some trash games must be never touched again

>>18606899
I want my oshi to finish ALL the games she plays and that included SADX
>some trash games must be never touched again
Real gamers don't skip games thats why she will play DMC 2, the shitty Assassin Creed in the franchise and Dead Space 3
https://youtu.be/lcvw1E0Mcac

>>18606662
No thanks, 2 times was more than enough for selen to play with Froot
she's the equivalent of selen not turning off voice-chat and having a random talking from time to time

>>18607073
you mistyped "dumb gamers", real gamers value their time
I hope you dont turn your back now
so start asking for deathloop, you're a real gamer right? you want her to waste her time and finish that too right? is not just your bias nostalgia of trash games right?

>>18607487
>Deathloop
T-that never happened... Selen was in the tournament and she had a schizo moment thinking that playing that was a good idea!

>>18593254
Try returning. Maybe you'll stay back. Or maybe you'll remember again the reason why you left.

/#/ openly seething at Luxiem's success is the funniest shit from this board.

>>18593254
Funnily enough Luxiem debut made me realise I'm actually a unicorn so now I watch small corpo GFE chuubas
I still love Pomu but I also think she's a traitorous whore when she constantly flirts with Vox and Luca

>>18607891
>>18607891
>maybe you'll remember again the reason why you left.
Would be funny as fuck one week later OP makes another thread about how he tried but returned to the place that saved him from holoEN

>>18595185
Well, Shu is Elira's boyfriend so

>>18593254
>'Mario kart with viewers'
>Vox joins 2 minutes into the stream and makes it entirely about him, 2 more males join soon after
>Viewers are totally ignored the entire stream
Just one example of the systemic issue, I'm surprised the girls haven't started getting massive viewer drops yet considering most of them get their fans by dipping into GFE

>>18610758
>still played with viewers
>Finana joined too
>they don't do GFE
solved the mystery

>>18610851
That was not a Mario Kart with viewers stream you disingenuous fuck
She didn't read chat once the entire stream

>>18610851
>they don't do GFE
They do in little portions, even Selen but its not their main thing, that's why i like NijiEN in general and made Selen my oshi

>>18593254
SELEN I KNOW YOU ARE /HERE/ PLEASE MARRY ME I LOVE YOU SO MUCH, I CAN MAKE A DAMN FINE CHILI

>>18610882
I opened the VOD and clicked at a random time not in the middle of a race. Here's here reading a message in chat: https://youtu.be/G6bzNvUZHI0?t=8321

>>18610851
>They don't do GFE
They do when they need some cash

>>18611027
Ooo wow she read one messages before going back to lusting over Lucas cock amazing
If you still enjoy NijiEn you're either a women or an NTRfag
Either way you're less than human and not worth conversing with, goodbye

>>18611027
No you're not supposed to watch streams that's cheating

>>18611024
>I CAN MAKE A DAMN FINE CHILI
BASED

>>18593699
he's already a huge faggot because he's begging for attention

>>18611071
You didn't even watch the video KEK
I accept your defeat

>>18593254
I noticed that I am too. I really don't like how they turned every solo stream into a potential open door collab.

>>18593254
Watch Reimu

>>18611203
Reimu even turned a member stream into a collab with Vox. Which is exactly what OP is complaining about...

>>18611203
lol
lmao

>>18611071
At this point a couple things are clear. If you watch the NijiEN girls you are just naturally a contrarian. After their behavior and acting like slobbering sluts over the boys its obvious that HoloEN is superior in every way. The only reason to watch NijiEN girls is if you are a contrarian. As for the boys, well, I don't know what to say about them. If you watch them you are most likely a female Zhang since those make up 90% of their fanbase or you are a really confused contrarian.

Please just be a normal person and watch HoloEN like the rest of us. NijiEN might have been a decent alternative at the beginning but they have veered off course so badly that there really isn't any justifiable reason to watch them anymore.

>>18611293
so true sister

>>18611293
HoloEN are also bad because they're just so fucking boring and 90% of their audience are children
I currently watch RTS player Lumi and the ultimate EOP GFE Amano Nene
Small corpos seem to be the way to go now

>>18611293
Based, I love conforming to your opinions specifically, Robert

>>18605614
Lmao, I dropped nijiEN around ethyria and luxiem debut, only watching Kawaii now. They feel comfy like early Lazulight and Obsydia, not too much members and very tight knit

>>18601492
Pretty much this. I like Luca because on his Channel he sticks to solo stream on his when it's not a planned collab, but his twitch lingo and humour was the most invasive thing. Not even Selen used twitch lingo that much. Now I think Rosemi is the only one I watch regularly on the girl side. She sticks to solo streams outside of collabs and her Yu Go Oh streams are kino

>>18611459
Based. Charzu is the best!!

Its a shame that NijiEN lost their way and have crashed and burned so hard. Lazulight was such a strong start too.

>>18605134
>Kinda weird just blaming him for it.
It's both their faults. I just wanted her to finish SA solo just like she started it. I don't care about her other solo streams. The first one was kino and I tried to watch the part with Ike in VC it was just not the same

>>18593254
time to branch out to other small corpo or indies

>>18611293
>If you don't watch Pewdiepie and Pokimane you're not normal so you must be a contrarian
ogey

My NijiEN oshi is a desperate whore who would rather flirt with males than provide an entertaining stream but I still love her

>>18605614
Tsunderia seems to be the only one with males and accept male collabs, do I have reasons to watch other groups if I like watching male vtubers?

>>18611637
Fuck off roastie just go suck a real cock

>>18611610
>BFs, black companies, sudden graduations and slut behavior all over the place.
I really wish you 2 view shills would stay in your generals.

>>18611721
Yes it's much better when they act like whores on stream like the Niki's right?

>>18611673
I'm not a woman but why are you mad anyway?

>>18611763
They either act like loud whores on stream with indies or they have the personality of a wet blanket. Niji isn't even a high bar to pass retard.

>>18611637
Actually you really can't hate tsunboys, I dropped nijiEN because of Luxiem but the tsunboys are surprise ok, and they don't invade the girl's stream like nijiEN

>>18611771
Woman or Fag? Whats the difference honestly.

>>18611771
Oh so you're a flaming faggot instead then?
Imagine unironically wanting to watch make vtubers, just go watch XQC fucking cuck

I've never hated women as much as I hate them right now for ruining my comfy NijiEN threads and streams
Now the entire branch is nothing but cocklust over the males and I hate it

>>18611828
Nothing wrong with xQc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xHf2uKoAXY

>>18611721
>My favorite member graduates from the small EN corpo THREE TIMES
Fuck that, I'm tired of being hurt.

>>18593254
>I heard Council members like Mumei, Baelz and Fauna have turned around their original impressions which made me a Nijifag to start with and liked Kronii from the beginning.
They still have... you know...

>>18611828
Being a fan of male vtubers doesn't make you a fag. Holostars, Tsunboys, and most of the NijiJP boys are fine.

Watching Luxiem on the other hand does make you a fag. There is no reason to watch them unless you are a fag with all the blatant sexual pandering they do.

>>18611828
>>18611823
>seething at people for having different vtuber preferences
Damn are you all 2viewbros like this? I thought you're supposed to be open to more varieties. I also prefer girl vtubers to female streamers too because I just like anime designs more in general. Does this board even like anime?

>>18611937
The 2 views have always been the most bitter group on the board.

>>18611937
>Even putting egirl thots in the same realm
Actually kill yourself normalnigger
Vtubers were made for GFE and anything outside of that is normalfag pandering shit
M*le vtubers are an abomination and ruin everything they touch, NijiEn includ d

>>18593417
king

slow day in /#/, maybe

>>18611929
Some Holostars and NijiJP boys do pandering too and some Luxiem boys don't. The variation exists by individual vtuber in question not by any group. Don't whiteknight people you don't even watch, bro

>>18593254
And you wonder why holoniggers are the most hated fanbase on this board it's because of posts like this keep it up though it's entertaining

>Vtubers were made for GFE
now this is shitposting

>>18601492
>Constantly crashing in the girls' streams and sometimes derailing the stream/topic.
NijiEN has always been like this. It's not different just because they're men.
>To others, it's the constant "zoomer" humor they brought in. The golden era or Lazulight/Obsydia is gone.
Yeah man, not like people shat on NijiEN day one for amogus or jojo references, or like the first target for hate among shitposters was something something zoomer coomer brapfish, or like people used to call Elira a normie zoomer (man, imagine being so wrong) or accuse Selen of bringing in zoomer fans or
You get the point

>>18612124
Or maybe NijiEn have actually just alienated their entire audience by becoming Luxiem cocksleaves

>>18593254
Watch Miori Celeste.

>>18611495
>Doesn't like twitch lingo
>Watches Rosemi
?
She probably uses it the most of all the girls

>>18612111
This actually proves you don't watch them. Nobody from NijiJP or Holostars has done even 1/10th the level of pandering that Luxiem has done.

>>18612141
Cope and delusional
When it was the girls it was cute teetee and funny banter
With the males it's just constant flirting and poopoopeepee

>>18612141
Selen never brought zoomers fans because they were already there, Pomunigger

Imagine watching Niji EN after the males debuted

>I am falling out of love with Niji En, what should I do?
There's plenty of HoloEN streams you can watch-
Oh wait

>>18593254
Bait thread is almost at bump limit, why can’t you fags just watch streams or jerk off instead of acting like retards.

>>18612203
Falseflagger-kun, your reading comprehension reps...

>>18612161
Learn how to read. I never said I don't like it. I watch Luca, Selen and Rosemi, it should be obvious I don't mind it.
What I said is that because of Luca it became way more prominent. It's obectively invasive. And it's a problem for people that don't like it

>>18612251
Here your answer
>>18612250

>>18611495
Rosemi used Twitch lingo before Luxiem. She fucking watches Aris. Why can none of you Luxiem haters even make factual statements, just say you hate men, your attempt at pretending to watch NijiEN is pitiful

>>18612251
Because I want the NijiEn I liked watching back and not the Vox Akuma show

I wouldn't mind male collabs if the males in question were people I find entertaining.
I don't so I dislike the collabs, same reason I don't watch Selen collabs with vshojo.

>>18612286
>Falseflagger
I have been a Dragoon since her debut, fag
>>18612244
Yes
>

>>18612141
Well a fair portion of NijiEN fans didn't watch or didn't care for NijiJP, which was still big enough to accommodate solo and less collab-heavy streamers.
The other chaps are right, Luxiem has completely changed the tone of EN and made it a lot harder to enjoy the girls on their own, which how a lot of vtuber fans enjoy streamers.

>>18612330
it was garbage then and it's garbage now
you grew up, congratulations

>>18612330
Then watch the old vods

>>18612326
Why can't nijiniggers read?
Does all the cocklust make you delusional?

>>18612348
>>18612356
>Noooooo you can't complain over things you like changing
I hate women so much it's unreal

>>18612346
Regardless, your reading comprehension needs work.
I didn't say Selen actually brought in zoomers, I said people ACCUSED her of it as one of the reasons saying "Luxiem brought in zoomer humor" is retarded. Of course they were already there. Older zoomers are most of the core audience of vtubers, if I had to guess.

I hear there are people who hate men here

>>18612170
Yeah that guy is a retard.
The Homostars absolutely refuse to fujobait and Chronoir keep their relatively tame fujo baiting on another channel. Luxiem is absolutely shameless, if it was the NijiEN girls or HoloEN girls doing that shit everyone would be calling them out.

>>18612343
> same reason I don't watch Selen collabs with vshojo.
Based... they are so... boring. Good thing that she only play once a year with Froot and only for Apex
The last one was that big collab and the only good part was Selen BTFOing everyone
>>18612402
oh ok, sorry then

>>18612326
Holy shit why are you all retarded like that. >>18612289
I watch Luxiem and watched Selen before that. And even before you newfags were around I was watching Niji JP men.

Lazulight were great
Obsydia were good
The third wave were awful
The males were males

Even though there's some good individual streamers in Niji, the group as a whole sucks

>>18612411
/vt/ literally can't stop talking about their fantasies of Niji men that they don't even watch. I think >we actually like men, now.

>>18612411
This thread isn't about the Luxiem themselves, it's about how they've changed the dynamic of EN.

>>18612300
The monopoly stream is almost 3 hours long then there’s Mumei and Kronii’s stream, there’s shit to watch today. It’s not like these people watch streams with the amount of bullshit they make up.

>>18598108
>>18598498
One of Pomu and Finana's first memberships streams was a collab with each other.

>>18598965

>You actually should go back and never return, especially if the reason is males.

You think I am that bad? huh
Watching males is not a problem and i think Ike is best in Niji after Selen. The problem is the BFE that comes with some of the males. And that is nit even the main reason, I am just bored with Niji En for now

>>18610738
Nah man, I've seen the amount of shota fan art Shu's caused, I can tell why they're REALLY friends.

>>18612502
Was it an unplanned collab? Otherwise there is no problem. The membership collabs are not the issue

>>18612170
The same level as Vox? Sure. Same level as Ike or Shu? A lot, some pandered more than them. Even those who don't pander explicitly in streams will publish BFE voicepacks and participate in White Day events.
You can just say instead "Luxiem on average panders to women more than NijiJP" but that's just an inoffensive statement that doesn't give as much (You)s and require actually watching streams to understand the nuance. Not to mention the same thing can pretty much be said of most NijiEN female waves relative to their JP counterpart.

>>18602144
>But you literally have not said why.
Bitch I am feeling so sorry for your parents. They don't deserve a retarded child like you

>>18612574
You don't watch them, stop lying.

>>18604425
Like 6 or 7 at this point, has to be.

Most impromptu collabs suck
If i wanted to watch a certain niji I would boring streamers don't become better by attaching themselves to ones I actually like

>>18611293
God I love /vt/. The only board where people will tell you more popular = more gooder with a straight face. Well, for the sake of my sanity I'm assuming this post is a joke, but the fact that I even have to question it is hilarious.

>>18612612
Seethe, just say you don't like BFE instead of piting male groups against each other.

>>18612574
>BFE instead
You are not even trying. Holostars and Niji Jp males are nothing like Vox and Mysta or even Luca

>NijiEN bad now!
>p-please watch Hololive EN!!
Jesus christ, what's with these shill posts? Give up loserbait, Council is declining.

>>18613539
You have never watch nijijp holonigger

>>18613567
DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE USE MY OSHI TO SHITPOST YOU FAGGOT

>>18613669
Suck my 5.3 inch dick anon
I have more hours watching Kanae than you have on this planet

>>18613673
>fake tatsunoko
Many such cases. I bet she "became" your oshi after you watched a herohei or whatever dramafag youtuber video about her graduation.
Also >shitpost
This ENTIRE thread is a shitpost. Look at the posts above and below me.

This is not a shit post

>>18613773
> bet she "became" your oshi after you watched a herohei or whatever dramafag youtuber video about her graduation.
Naa she was my gateway to Vtubers. Anyways, I dont wannna waste my time explaining that to a Nijinigger
>This ENTIRE thread is a shitpost. Look at the posts above and below me.
You dumb fuck, I dont care if they are shit posting. Just don't use my oshi for that shit

>>18613871
>Coco
>she was my gateway to Vtubers
HOLY KEK my sides.
EVERY
SINGLE
TIME.

>>18612612
I watch Shu and he goes as far as to say his VP is a roommates situation and not romantic, meanwhile some JP males voicepacks have ongoing stories of being your boyfriend. I.e. ACTUAL bfe not gross kiss noises, what kind of boyfriend goes mwah mea chuu every 5 seconds

>>18613993
And what's wrong with having her as my gateway, nigger?
I can even tell you the exact clip which made me discover Vtubers

Last for my dragon wife