/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Now put Mika in NijiEn

>>18552779
The one good thing KR management did.

Fucked up so bad that ID and KR had to be merged into the greater Nijisanji. Opportunities galore...maybe.

>>18552779
Did they post a Korean version of that on the NijiKR twitter page?

>>18552779
>Wave 7 cancelled
>we're losing this cute as fuck model
noo... but if it's for the wellbeing of KR and better management, I will accept this loss...

this is good news, right?

Bora, Yuya.
Please come back...

>>18552779
This one is dead too

>>18552873

Probably good for the ones who speak japanese, the ones who don't may be SOL unless they speak english, might end up with NijiEN

>>18552873
It's probably good news for KR since that branch has been bleeding out with the open wound called KR management, but for ID? I guess the branch was not nearly profitable enough to justify continuing on as an individual branch.
Recruitment for both branches is donezo, so don't expect any new KR or ID nijichubbas anytime soon.

>>18552873
this just means that management going to force them to speak more english. good if you're EOP, bad for their local fans.

>>18552779
good news for KR,
bad news for ID i guess?

>>18552975
Why would they force them to speak English, they're becoming part of NijiJP not NijiEN if anything they'd be made to speak japanese.

>>18552975
They are not merged into Nijisanji EN tho, just Nijisanji, I don't think that they will be forced to talk in english cos of that

>>18552873
Bad news for gooks they hate nip management shit

>>18552779
Nobody cares nijinigger, go back to your general.

>>18552779
Well, shit. Niji ID is fucked.

>>18552975
It's especially bad for ID because some of their livers are streaming in Indonesian and there's plenty of content for local fans in the Id official channel that may stop if they are getting merged.

>>18553058
For KR its definitely good news. The branch was going to be outright deleted otherwise along with all the members. But now they get to keep their jobs as members of the JP branch.

>>18552873
Very good news for KR since their independent management was absolute trash, kinda neutral for ID since while they're low 3views they have some form of local market penetration.

I think the concern right now is that the official programs for Niji ID are actually pretty decent and they're freezing that for the moment. They do mention that talents will be free to choose which language they use to transmit their content in.

>>18552873
Being officially part of the main branch could lead to them being involved in the branch-wide tournaments that JP likes to have. Plus they could get some more small shill stream opportunities. The IDs can still stream in ID as far as I know, they'll just lose their main channel with is certainly going to be a negative for them.

This is just gently pushing the worst performers that can't adapt to either JP or EN to graduate.

>>18553136
Yes for the streamers not the audience lol

>>18552779
isn't it better to merge them with EN instead tho? and the rename EN as Nijisanji World/Global?

tho now that Anycolor make this move, is there any possibilities Yagoo thought "Hey, good idea!" and then Holo ID gonna got merged with Holo JP or Holo EN?

>No more NijiSwara
>No more Ringkasanji
>No more NijiSore
>No more Nijisanji ID Anniversary
>Into 2023 not happening
>Nijisanji ID Gen 7 cancelled
Riku Tazumi can suck my dick.

>>18553034
Yes. KR was dying but had good talents, this removes the tumor that was its bad management and lets them start over.

For ID it's bad because the branch was stable but with shit numbers outside big outliers like Hana. Merging it with JP means it's a death knell for any attempt at the local market - the remaining chuubas will have to pick whether to pander to JP or EN depending on their skillset, or quit entirely.

>>18552961
>>18553172
What did KR management do?

>>18553225
They don't have a Korean audience to begin with. Why do you think it's being merged. The only ones that do well are the ones that caught the attention of the JP or EN niji fanbase.

>>18553202
Why would this force them to graduate?
Fucking naru and hajime is still streaming to this day

>>18553255
They did nothing, that's the issue.

Don't worry about the models, Nijisanji always keeps them until they find a person to use it, no matter the branch

>>18553247
If ID can still find a way to keep their managers they might be able to do an Into 2023 and just put it on one of the individual member's channels.

Does Hana feel guilty that her insistence to debuff herself when she had that one chance to become big, and possibly lifted her branch to fame, had indirectly caused the downfall of it?

>>18553248
They won't have the ID in their name anymore but if they're letting them stream in whatever language they want then the chance to keep your ID core audience could still be there.

>>18552779
Oh no no no, nijicucks?

>>18553248
They literally say the members will be allowed to stream in whatever language they want. So nobody is going to have to pander to anything if they don't want to.

>>18552873
Yes. KR was getting sued into oblivion and just retarded in general.

This would've been great for B*ra, she was practically JP.

>>18553255
They fucked up and lost both Yuya and Bora.

>>18553331
It is unironically her fault. And probably the reason why she started streaming a shit ton and playing with people after hiding.

>>18552779
NijiID and KR are dead then. I don't get why ID needs to be killed off too though

>>18553255
Got groomed by a talent to ignore all the others

>>18553202
KR was an awful unforced error. Things could have gone so much better.

ID is just kind of a dead market. SEA doesn't superchat, doesn't engage, and the language fragmentation is terrible since speaking a SEA language doesn't just cut you off from the rest of the world, it might well cut you off from nearby local markets because everybody speaks their own dialect.

Consider that HoloID is the runaway success of this market, getting both the Holo buff and taking off during the COVID boom, and no one in that branch has broken 1million despite most of the talents essentially becoming full-time EN streamers.

ID as a region is fucking grim.

>>18553239
No. EN is barely a few monthd old and renaming it at this point would make it lose its identity, especially for new people.

>>18553503
You do know NijiID is more successful than HoloID right?

kek https://twitter.com/Azura_Cecillia/status/1494223171805134849

>>18553248
retard, if they don't graduate them that meant they will just stream as usual, just don't have the ID manager and office, probadly keeping an office and managers for a mediorce branch with low profit isn't affordable for them so they cut lost and let some jap manager in the main branch who knew ID language to manage them

I don't get it, please tell me in a way that a brainlet can understand. So basically they fired all KR and ID staffs?

>>18553503
>doesn't superchat
IDs can’t superchat. They used local platform instead.

>2 Nijisanji reclining branches
>Most members of the branches can at least speak decent english
>Both Niji ID and Niji KR collab a lot with Niji EN. To the point some of the members become honorary EN.
>Merge the branches under the Niji JP brand instead
Just why ?

>>18553331
I just want to say
FUCK YOU HANA, you could literally be the biggest NijiID chuuba and mog all of your kouhais (possibly EN too) but you keep debuffing yourself. Your fraction of your fans are stayed away from you because of this shit. It's all your fault.

>>18553247
>>No more Nijisanji ID Anniversary
>>Into 2023 not happening
>>Nijisanji ID Gen 7 cancelled
this is the worst. fuck this shit man

>>18553239
I don't think so. English speakers are fickle if they go to what they think is NijiEN and find more people that can barely speak English or have heavy accents than competent English speakers they will just leave and never come back. Right now EN is the Niji golden goose. The girls make more than most of the JP girls. The top boys are competitive with the top JP males. Why fuck with that.

>>18552869
There is a chance they could use it in upcoming EN wave or any other. It's not like the model is gone if undebuted wave is cancelled.

>>18553537
That or they're keeping some but the main management decisions will be from the JP branch from now on

>>18553537
I don't know if we know if they even fired them. KR staff is more than likely out the door but the ID staff seemed competent.

>>18552975
>Niji KR
>local fans
Seems more like ID is taking a fall to help mask the utter shitshow of KR management

>>18553530
what thread do you think you're posting in?

>>18553532
Oh. Well straight from the horses mouth then that this is a good thing for ID too

>>18553554
The honorary EN club is only like, 4 people. Mika, Seffy, Hada and Oliver.

>>18553554
NIJI JP is the main branch.
All this does is that ID and KR will be managed from Japan. This is good for KR but not so good for ID. Livers can carry on as normal.

>>18552779
This probably kills the chances of NijiES an that makes me sad

>>18552873
Honestly I think it is a positive because it probably gives more control on KR because obviously letting them do their own thing isn’t working. And KR’s management isn’t doing their job. I do see people are saying that events for ID are never coming back but I think they mean for now it’s stopped until in the future.

>>18553530
By what metric?

https://twitter.com/BanHada2434/status/1494229868648697859

>>18553669
Local engagement and sponsorships

>>18553554
There are 2 people in kr that speak English, hari and hada. Nearly all of id does to some degree, but only a handful are fully fluent.

>>18553530
Anon, the numbers simply do NOT bear that out.
I'd you're going to use the cope that HoloID gets no ID viewership, there was a document leaked that revealed that about a third of Moona's viewership was ID. That alone puts her in a position to crush the entirety of NijID by herself.

I don't give two shits about KR but I feel for ID branch. In their two years run they fostered a streaming culture that has becoming staple of Niji EN streams like impromptu collabs, open voice calls, game shows etc. In their early days Lazulight used to say that they look up to their ID mates and wish to operate like them.
I wish them ID bros good luck. They need it.

>>18553535
https://www.anycolor.co.jp/news/w2n8l9pmz1
It felt like ID's keep their management, it's just now they have to directly answer to JP.
While KR probably have whole restructuring.

If they keep some of the ID staff and let them continue some of the content they make that's targeted towards SEA then it's fine to me.

>>18552779
Should've went for 15

>>18552961
>so don't expect any new KR or ID nijichubbas anytime soon
Well, for KR and ID it's only for the better. I've noticed how they inclined a tiny bit after they stopped spamming new waves.
The only Niji branch that can benefit from new waves right now is EN, as there is a lot of free market to expand to without harming previous waves.

>>18553626
Yeah. Those people should at least have some kind of option to join EN if they want to. Except sensei of course.

>>18552947
Was that supposed to be a Gura or Kanata ripoff?

>>18553239
NijiEN is doing well and still pretty new I think that’s why they don’t want to do that. They also probably want to add more members to NijiEN and postponing those auditions wouldn’t really help.

>>18553718
You should update your screenshot. It's 16 now.

OH NO NO NO CHAE ARA IS GOING TO DESTROY EN

>>18553626
Is not BonBon also technically in that as well?

>>18553683
I'm sure you have the stats to back that up since the standard visible streaming numbers have them way behind.

>>18553247
Honestly I think they mean stuff like that is postponed until they can figure out the situation with KR and ID merge after that’s figured out stuff like that will come back.

>>18553773
Elira will protect her korean wives don't worry about it

>>18552975
So, basically HoloID approach? Abandon local fanbase, pander to EOPs.

If it’s not happening to EN it’s not part of a company wide restructuring, so all that’s left is they consider ID management/performance on par with KR, which, well, ouch.
Hope it works out for them, but in my experience the more you have to answer to managers in Japan the more slow and bureaucratic everything gets.

>>18553660
Why would it kill the chances?

>>18553725
Being the EN speaking members in JP could be really beneficial to them though in a bridge between the two audiences and branches kind of way.

>>18553247
this. i'm so sad right now... the ID staff is also amazing at their job and able to get a lot of sponsored.... i hope they still can sing indonesia songs...
i'm happy for NijiKr tho. i hope your liver will become more happy, KRbros

>shitting out gens one right after another makes nobody watch the entire branch and spreads out the few remaining fanbase even more
I'm shocked? Who could've seen this coming? If only we had a warning?

>>18553821
Read the full statement, they'll combine the staff, it's company リストラ

>>18553554
> Most members of the branches can at least speak decent english
Doesn’t most of KR speak Japanese who other than Hada and Hari speak English? They speak Japanese more than Korean.

>>18552779
Good News, when will Hololive do something like this?

>>18553660
> kills the chances of NijiES
I mean was that ever even a chance to begin with?

>>18553867
Yagoo will follow suit just like how he tailing Rikkun to ID.

>>18553847
ID is just have to answer JP's management.
Nothingelse is changed.
If anything could you will see lot's of ID stuff uploaded on JP niji channel.

>>18552779
>IDKR
>i dont know right?
kek

>>18553800
They already do just as much pandering as HoloID does, if having members that stream mostly in English counts as pandering
If they really wanted to replicate Hololive’s success they’d need a time machine to go back and tell Hana to stop shooting herself in both feet every 5 seconds

>>18553867
Do what? Combine branches they dont have? Guess never. Unless you REALLY want to stretch it and claim INNK production (Azki) is part of hololive which they are kind of merging

>>18553923
kek, good one

>>18553846
>literally doesn’t know anything going on with KR and their management
>decides to open mouth

>>18552873
This means that future IDs better be able to speak English

>>18553867
There’s no point in Hololive merging because there’s only 3 groups tho if HololiveCN was still a thing I wouldn’t be surprised if they merged with ID

>>18553914
>If anything could you will see lot's of ID stuff uploaded on JP niji channel.
This is what I think they'll do too. Do we still say JP or do we just call it a Hub channel?

>>18552779
OPEN UP NIJISANJI SPANISH!

>>18553846
Do you think that man cares ?
He will put out as much waves as he can until 1 superstars is born from one of them. If your branch can survive that process it will be removed just like IN. He probably would have done that with those 2 branches if Anycolor wasn't affraid of the backlash. Only the successful and the profitable branches will survive

>>18552779
good news, anyways the Indog market has been damaged by indie whore Mythia Batfold and her love triangle drama, HoloID should do something similar because using ID just a debuff for them

>>18553867
HololiveCN
VSingers_JP

>>18553914
Nijisanji JP gives out channels like candy now (Raindrops, ROF-MAO, Juvvels, Sakuyui), so if ex-ID wants to have their own branding they definitely can.

>>18553247
Imagine complaining about losing some shitty programs when you should be happy they didn't just outright delete an entire underperforming branch with your livers along with it.

>>18554046
But why did he terminate the 53 prostitutes he had working for Nijisanji instead of putting them in the JP branch?

>>18554046
>Only the successful and the profitable branches will survive
This.

>>18554071
Kek I forgot that Sakuyui got a channel.

>>18554072
anon, just be happy you mom didnt abort you, doesnt matter how shitty life is, just be happy :)

>>18553660
Y eso es una cosa buena.

>>18553247
These events will stay one way or other. If anything expect cool stuff like JP guests, new events, sponsors or something like that, you don't have to be that negative son.

>>18552873
it means i won't be watching any more events or tournaments if they're going to fill them with these people
jp already had enough annoying retards

I don't know why people are still arguing this is a bad thing when all of the KR and ID subtweet about it have been happy/praising it

>>18552873
good news for holofans (aka this entire board)

>>18554071
If anything they probably renamed the current ID channel or in best situation they uploaded JP stuff to.
One thing for sure KR and ID stuff like goods and VP will available in main site like EN is.

>>18554142
Anon being they're happy because their branches weren't deleted all together. It's kinda low standard

>>18554071
>Raindrops and ROF-MAO, units with men, get concerts, merch, ads in subways, heavy promotion
>Juuvel and Sakuyui, female only units, gets uhhhh ummmm uhhhhhhh uhhhhh

>>18554147
What makes you think any of them know or care about either of these branches
If they knew about the state of KR they’d probably do a lot more shitposting about it

>>18552779
These poor talents are going to be forced to pander JP/EN audience or they will stay irrelevant until their imminent graduation.

>>18554147
This happens just as Hololive is about to debut ID Gen 3 to show their dedication to the market. Great timing Niji, LMAO. HoloID about to incline pretty hard and they were already crushing NijiID. Now NijiID is no more.

>>18554147
>holofans
>watching ID
>watching nijisanji ID
>watching KR
>watching nijisanji KR
????

>>18554052
2/3 of holo ids base isn’t even indo so it wouldn’t hurt them as much. Nearly all of nijiids was

>>18554195
Manjisanji

>>18554187
I mean Azuras tweet is a fucking crab emoji

>>18553559
>you could literally be the biggest NijiID chuuba and mog all of your kouhais
You grossly underestimate her potential. She could have been the biggest EN vtuber or vtuber in general, completely mogging Coco by having an early start, having actually coherent English and not being so JP oriented.

>>18553683
i agreed but holoID able to get sponsorships too even better than NijiID afaik, just not the local one

>>18554199

>>18552947
comparisons to pic related probably would've been endless for the far left chick

>>18554121
I mean seriously though. You're complaining about losing bells and whistles when the only things keeping the actual streamers in a job is probably that it doesn't cost much to manage them as part of JP and it would be a PR disaster to fire them all.

>>18553978
Chinese shit always has to have its own management structure since you legally have to have a local partner to even operate there. This is so the Chinese can steal your tech and/or force you out once the venture is profitable.

What happens to divegrass

>>18554199
man that's sad seeing NijiID will be forced to pander to JP and EN audiences like HoloID

>>18554230
Those numbers are for Moona specifically, I expect someone like Iofi is 99% ID viewers unless there’s suddenly a big overseas demand for streams in bahasa

>>18554199
>has Japanese fans
>has a full branch in her company that only knows Japanese
>wants to communicate with them
>forced to pander
I’m curious what that means Moona is doing then.

Can't say I'm surprised this happened. With the recent graduations and just looking at the lifetimes views where even Anya Melfissa has more lifetime views than most of them, except Hana Macchia, the outcome was to be expected.

>>18554352
Ollie, reine has more EN viewer than ID iirc
Anya probably JP

some ID and KR livers has always been friends since beginning, i hope the rest can get along too. still fuck the management though

>>18554420
I was scared Suha would go thanks to KR capsuzing but I'm glad the bfs can stay together... Just didn't want Taka to lose the ID label
fuck, so conflicting lol

>>18553247
One of biggest annual Niji event NJU concert is hosted on Rindou Mikoto channel. I don't see why ID livers can't do the same.

>>18554317
>divegrass on March
>2434merger on April
it will be fine i guess

Does this mean no more new wave for non-NijiJP/NijiEN or there will still be new Worldwide wave. Basically I'm asking are they opening auditions to people outside KR/ID/people who speak those language. Because there's less competitive market outside of ID/KR probably. Why not get talents from rest of SEA or Europe or Latin America.

>>18553632
Recruiting from either regions seems to be a forgone conclusion now though considering the cancellation of auditions.

I hope this will encourage them to improve their english

>>18554142
>ID subtweet about it have been happy/praising it
https://twitter.com/Azura_Cecillia/status/1494221354127675394

>>18552873
It means they're getting closer to opening a Spanish branch

>>18554541
Time to get my streaming reps in. I’m going make it bros.

>>18554195
You're stretching it with Raindrops, there are only 2 actual men there.

>>18554527
That’s the neat part, they won’t. Not even JP can be arsed to do it.

If I was in management and wanted to wind down branches that don’t make any money without causing a PR shitstorm, moving all their livers under the main brand and never recruiting any more would sure be a great way to do it, just saying

>>18553247
>no more 17th of August
>all ID branded content are for nothing
>no more speaking indonesian

>>18554541
Now that’s a joke. Just be glad WACTOR is pandering to Spanish speakers. The main problem is that isn’t profitable due to the Monopoly money having no real value in those regions.

>>18554052
What's happening with Mythia?

>>18554195
Didn't Sanbaka get a collab with Wendy's?

>>18554621
Yeah, they are basically closing these branches without explicitly closing the branches. Seems like they are setting up to put all of their resources into EN.

>>18554615
Joe and Ryushen are the singers who carry that unit on their backs and Ryushen is sort of a guy, Akina is the popularity pick to grab all the fujos/gay men.

>>18554142
Based on Enikara's track record full of questionable decision, I sadly don't trust them doing this merger on a positive note. Feels more like another rushed decision to pull the plug because they see EN is inclining hard and realized KR and ID are just deadweight. ID especially is really their own separate entity with their own culture, I can't see anything positive by erasing their Indonesian tag and sthick

>>18554684
shhhhh stop ruining the shitposters narrative

>>18553806
The effective "closing" of said branches gives off the impression that Nijisanji is finding foreign branches that aren't EN to not be as profitable as they would like. That or at the very least not producing enough results to justify keeping them as separate dedicated branches.

>>18552869
HaYun's model was from a bilingual audition that went nowhere in 2019. We might see the bird boy again.

>>18552779
Killing 2 birds with one stone

>>18552779
Holo ID merger when Yagoo???
both of them are dead weights for their parent company, you should learn a thing or two from Riku

imagine being niji jp sharing a spot with some filthy 3rd worlder and gooks

>>18554684
Sanbaka doesn't have a Youtube channel but all the units I listed have Youtube channels. Let me know when Sanbaka has a channel like Chronoir or SakuYui.

>>18553727
Yes

>>18554728
SakaYui were in that same Wendy's collab anon

>>18554618
I mean the non japanese speaker and/or ESL like Taka, ZEA, or Hyona. For the JP Speakers like those in KR. they probably will have an easier time

>>18553926
Nah, they are not pandering as much, it's not even close. HoloID are basically off-brand HoloEN.

>>18552873
NijiID is competing with Maha5 in their local market, so it is bad news for them.
NijiKR condition are in life-support so it's good news for the remaining talents
in another hand, it ironically will be good news if HoloID scrapped their ID tag.

>>18552779
Who cares!? Like seriously! It's not like they are relevant in the first place. NijiID has been falling into a spiral of literall whos since Hana crippled their growth and NijiKR lost their heavy hitter.
They are just a deadweight at this point, should've just graduate these close these two branch instead of this subtle faggotry shit. Watch as they'll leave one by one in the next few months

>>18552947
Only the far left one looked good

>>18554673
busy BTFOing both holo and niji
>doesn't pander to EOPoos
>doesn't rely on superchats
>doesn't open yt membership
>still has more ccv than Moona and Hana

>>18554725
Do JPs even realize ID exist
They barely know anything about EN

>>18554621
Exactly this. It's probably a vtuber version of the boredom room. They learned from Niji India that people really don't appreciate when they dismantle branches. And nobody actually cared about IN so if they do it with both ID and KR the backlash would be insane.
Letting them in the banishment until they graduate individually on their own is the safest PR way.

>>18554063
HoloCN was axed entirely with the talents included so it would be more comparable to NijiIN. AzKi transferring into Gen 0 is more like a partner companies merging together instead of an independent branch of the same company getting absorbed into the main one.

>>18554798
also
>Leeching Hololive and Nijisanji

>>18554739
Alright fine. Is Sakuyui or any girl unit shilled as hard as ROF-MAO though? Or Chronoir?

>>18554828
We'll see then. If the absorbed members suspiciously doesn't get birthday merch that'll be the red flag I'm looking out for.

>>18554269
So that's basically what's happening now with NijiID being absorbed into Nijisanji and no longer pandering to the local scene. HoloID was already doing that from the start, they stopped caring about Indonesians and streamed 100% in english pandering 100% to EOPs after like a month in except for Iofi.

In the long run I don't think this is a bad decision for the talents since like HoloID they'll benefit from no longer pandering to a tiny local scene and catering their content to whatever niche they want. There's also now opportunities to add more SEA waves like PH and TH if they really want to without building an entire branch around it I suppose. It was always a bit odd that both companies only had ID branches and other SEA languages were kind of neglected despite having plenty of talented streamers out there.

>>18553594
This is probably true, ID talents seemed very happy with ID staff and they were pretty friendly with their management. The way NijiEN came right out of the gate pushing impromptu collabs and having a private discord for the talents to hang out with was mostly lifted/inspired by NijiID so the ID staff probably had quite a bit of trust in their talents to give them that much freedom. Seems like they're just restructuring away from the ID scene but will keep the existing management as proper employees of Nijisanji instead of a subsidiary.

>>18552779
>found out wave 7 audition mid Jan
>motivated me to be an ID liver
>researched tons of shit about chuuba business and learned to stream
>tfw it's cancelled now
I don't know what to think of this brehs

>>18554769
Holo ID is En prototype
Since holoID can survive outside JP (Holocn just for money) with 3view , it give them a courage to open En

>>18552779
lol the fuck are they doing?

>>18554798
No, I mean the "drama". Looked on he Twitter and it seems that something happened to her.

>>18554890
Why the fuck would ID and KR get bday merch when not even the golden piggybank that is NijiEN has bday merch?

>>18554828
>They learned from Niji India that people really don't appreciate when they dismantle branches
95% of the people who bring that up never watched Niji IN, there really wasn't as much backlash as you might think.

>>18554914
just be an indie and leech them

>>18554142
It's not bad for the current talents but it basically means Nijisanji is discontinuing any extensive expansions and recruitments within the regions so it's not exactly a great thing either.

>>18554801
I doubt higher-tier NijiJP even knows low-tier NijiJP.

>>18554884
There's no unit being shilled as hard as Rofmao, not even Chronoir lol. You already had a retarded start by pushing Raindrops as an evidence of "Manjisanji" and then moved around the goalposts.

>>18554684
Sanbaka is just like lazulight where they are a unit that debuted together, they got the wendy’s sponsorship because all three members are very popular and are among the top streamers in Nijisanji

>>18554907
>It was always a bit odd that both companies only had ID branches and other SEA languages were kind of neglected despite having plenty of talented streamers out there.
They just see the population number and think it's great market, just like India. The monopoly money is worthless though and they can't even superchat like Singapore, Philippines or Malaysia.

>>18554801
Mito can't even name all her JP juniors. You think she gives a fuck about those indogs?

>>18554937
Well in that case they should've merged them to EN!

>>18554352
Bruh, all of them have around 90% eop fanbase. Even Moona. That shit about 1/3 was a fucking fabrication by Cover itself in order avoid being laughed at.
Instead, better be looking at transparent data - chat/superchats. Around 90% is eop shit.

>>18554907
PH wave will be a disaster. Not a lot of weebs here are that rich to drop money for merch and akasupas. (most of them are just students)

>>18554998
They could have made it fucking huge with the thai/flip fujobase who already watches JP to the point of having fan run shops for imported merch of the JP males but nope
indonesia
because uhh NUMBERS!!!!!

>>18554717
If ID3 underperforms they might just stop

>>18554936
She's having a menhera moment over her horny kids audiences. Imagine Twitch chatroom but worse because the viewers isn't engaged with the streamer content at all. Such a cost of having higher CCV retention but pandering to normies.

>>18554943
Anon, you're replying to the exact same post where I say
>And nobody actually cared about IN
Of course nobody watched them. But you can still go look to the general response at the announcement. People voiced their dissatisfaction of that decision

>>18554798
>less subs than Moona
>boring and not as fun as Hana
WHOOOOOOOOOOO?!?!

So why didn’t they do this for IN?

>>18554960
NijiJP cliques don't work like that, newfag tourist

>>18554717
ID is profitable enough to justify keeping not to mention Hololive basically has a monopoly now in the entire region. It's also a hell of a lot easier to manage compared to NijiID just by virture of only having 6 members.

>>18555067
I always wanted to shoot every retarded kid that asked her to say ara-ara. Fuck them, honestly.

>>18555101
So niji have their own Mori tier huh

>>18554936
oh, she cucked her fans by offcollabing with a Male vtuber on valentine day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZpsGxPjYJI

>>18555081
And why would those peoples' opinions matter? It's just like the normalfags that butted in with the Rushia yab, they don't know anything about what they're apparently dissatisfied over.

>>18554801
This reminds me of the interaction between taka and noraneko lmao

>>18554998
It's not entirely about the population size. The reason ID branches are popular is because Japan uses Indonesia as a hub to outsource work and prototype things to a cheaper market, similar to the relationship between the US and Mexico or something. Economically they're very close and their governments cooperate on a lot of things so it's the natural choice when building a pet international branch as the infrastructure of ID/JP/EN trilingual professionals already exists.

>>18555037
I think this move shows they don't really care about the local scene anymore as long as they can introduce them to a global audience. Millie Parfait is already an EN/PH streamer and even though she speaks EN 99% of the time her PH streams do decently because she's built an existing audience that isn't just PH. If their future hires just have PH or TH as a bonus language like if they hired Qu or Laila who both speak Japanese and English fluently it'd work out just fine.

>>18553365
Do you even know why you're laughing?

>>18555089
Cause they realized Indians are smelly and doesn't deserve nice things

>>18555051
How big is the flip fanbase? During my hs/college days i barely know anyone who’s a fujo, including the anime circles in my college years. Most of the girls here are more into the hallyu wave than anime now.

IN all over again
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>18555110
It's funny tho
Even a mere Anya inclines in past few weeks and sometimes able to break her 3view bubbles

>>18555220
Except in literally no way similar

>>18555156
Nobody cared or even knew NijiIN existed but it doesn't take a genius to know that NijiIN was a mistake and an absolute fuckup on Anycolor's part with how badly it was handled. It's the sort of bumbling you can't help but marvel at in how inept it was.

>>18555206
Shit has changed fast bro, they're singlehandedly funding all kpop sales there to the point where it's on the radio, and more girls go to conventions more than ever

I'll wait for more news before I start to worry but considering how they went with IN I'm glad they're not just straight up deleting branches and firing everyone, at least for KR a merging or reallocation was my best case scenario, it's a shame ID was caught in the crossfire tho, ZEA couldn't answer about what happens to the staff and future events so I'm a little pessimistic about those continuing

>>18555156
Exactly. People that don't originally care about something will voice their opinion just to get brownie points sometimes.
>And why would those peoples' opinions matter?
Because the more those people make noises about the situation the more it is exposed to the general public. And that's bad PR. When you're running a business you have to take those kind of risks into consideration.

>>18555139
bruh wtf

After reading all posts in this thread. I realized that not a single person here understands that there is no NijisanjiJP, there is Nijisanji. And it looks like Anikara proves this point by doing such a bold move as merging branches together.

>>18555206
To give an idea probably 30% of Luxiem's audience are SEA women. They largely stopped streaming during NA hours because the majority of their viewers are JP/TW/SEA, like probably 80% total. The SEA audience may be poor but they're quite passionate about their love of anime and can at least pad your view count and chat engagement if you don't care about the money.
They seemingly just don't watch NijiID because they're not "exotic" enough I suppose. Same reason American fujos don't watch Luxiem, they want the real Japanese boy experience that they fetishize instead of boring local boys.

>>18555163
Most foreign workers in Japan are Flips and Viets though. And the government cooperation thing is more ASEAN than just Indonesian government. You can find lots of those same cooperations in surrounding countries.

>>18555139
Huh. Didn't she liked him way before she had her 2.0 outfit?

>>18555318
>They seemingly just don't watch NijiID because they're not "exotic" enough I suppose
Exotic is I guess rather appropriate, SEA people really salivates over western culture despite anime boys looking pretty much the same. Hell, Vox Brit accent alone is probably the reason for half his SC.

>>18554317
I guess now ex-ID-KRs can join /niji/ roster for vtl3 if exists, whereas for myself, maybe I'll try to caretake a holoID general if they're interested or hopefully I can return to represent my true home general that was supposed to join vtl2
t. /nijiID/ caretaker

>>18554798
she self-destruct because collab with her bf

>>18554195
Juuvel is hardly a unit, it's just another failed HonHima project

>>18553202
Slow and steady push to graduate

>>18555253
Oh enlighten me nijibros

>>18555308
So what makes EN an exception?

>>18555390
I thought it was a warawa project, she got anti comments because people concerntrolled her about Mito being overworked.

>>18555434
People watch them and they make money.

>>18555384
It's not like you have to stop making /NijiID/ threads
Maybe you could merge with KR if it helps keep the threads alive.
Or just /ID/ language vtubers in general across all companies and indies.

>>18555163
>>18554907
>Damage control
You're trying too hard intern-kun

>>18555428
IN was disbanded and everyone graduated. No one is being graduated here.

>>18555318
>largely stopped
Luca and Shu literally just finished streaming during NA primetime a few hours ago.

>>18555460
Why would the threads die if their streans aren't dying. yet...

>>18555389
So niji was triggered with her great cuckening act and pulled the plug on her branch? Viscious.

Looking at it from another perspective, would that mean that now the main branch won't require residence in Japan anymore?

>>18555428
The livers are all keeping their jobs and being transferred to the main Nijisanji branch.

>>18555434
EN has been orders of magnitude more successful than they initially expected so they're giving them free reign to do whatever the fuck they want as long as it keeps generating success. EN's management also seems extremely competent and hardworking, I've never seen any of them complain about management except Pomu being a whiny bitch over the Mario Kart thing but that was for her own personal issues.

>>18552779
>pulling the plug this quick
I always thought ichikara wanted to use ID as the base for NijiSEA expansion in the near future, I am horribly proven wrong now and they're nothing but shortsighted.
If they're anything near competent, they should have tweaked the business model for ID not to rely on SC since the market is vastly different than those of EN/JP, and bring out SC again for NijiMY/SG

>>18553247
Gay

>>18555229
It's opposite - they reclined a lot lately.
The reason you think it's an incline is because they became as lazy as HoloEN and stream less often. As a result they have an entire HoloEN fanbase gathering in those rare streams which makes them look like they inclined.

>>18555434
Having EN in the name is a huge buff anon, just look at how much money the EN branch is making compared to the others, they’re even beating out the main branch at times.

>>18555482
Yet

>>18553331
Thank you for your service Hana

>>18555036
You can't see who is who in the chat when they are writing in English. When the streamer is speaking English most of the indo viewers will also switch to English and their usernames seldom stand out because they don't have any fancy script or something like that. Superchats? They literally can't use them hence why streamlabs exists for holoID. Whenever there is a fan birthday project or such it's often overwhelmingly locals who participate. The 30% sounds about right for moona.

>>18553554
EN are vshojo trash tier, I'd kill if they forced Nari there

>>18554717
Let's see
> HoloID gen 3 debuting in one or two months
> Hololive has been hiring more staff for the ID
> ID1 get 3D and appearing in HoloFes
So not this year or the next it seem

>>18555460
Well /nijiKR/ is basically an all Korean Vtuber General now so merging with them will be hard ngl, also I'm not sure the /nijiID/s would like to share with other chuubas because before this I talked about them in /svt/ but it seems like the /nijiID/ anons kinda disliked that idea

>>18555501
>niji
?????

>>18555501
What?

>>18555533
You should watch some Nijisanji. They're fun

>>18555428
This is more managerial merge and complete restructure with KR.
EN already under some JPs management

>>18555504
They have Virtual Academy for that.

>>18555318
For me it's not because it's not exotic enough but it's too exotic. SEA has lots of languages and cultures. If you're talking in language people don't understand about something particular to your culture, you're not going to get the other 9 countries of SEA to watch you. It could have been different if it's labeled NijiSEA and everyone talks in English and cater more to SEA than just ID.

>>18555036
Are you retarded? They have analytics and you don't. Plus, Most people in the SEA who could pay for internet are bilinguals. They're taugh EN and their national language since primary. If the talents speak EN, they'll chat in EN and if they speak in ID, they'll speak in ID.

>>18555572
EN is like Niji JP if anything they have members that range from completely seiso to utter degenerate and everything in between.

>>18555110
Maha5 still exist. So still not really a monopoly.

>>18555640
Do you think this move of combining ID into the main Niji is a good move if it means they cater primarily to English and Japanese then?

>>18554998
>Sending SC instead of Streamlabs or SociaBuzz
Why do you love Jewtube so much?

>>18552779
nijibros said nijiid is doing fine, wtf
They lied again?
Is it because their numbers more or less the same as nijisanji IN nowadays?

>>18554142
Their talents implies otherwise, like their local staff is getting laid off or something.

>>18555618
Fun to like 10-300 people maybe
That's why they need the merge, to cut management cost

>"merged"
you mean killed?

Now is time for HoloKR to debut and BTFO Niji.

>>18555719
nijien and jp get thousands of viewers

>>18555701
They’re probably going to layoff some of them. I can see some KR and ID graduate if the main branch can’t provide any decent management for them. I think Hada said that she was a bit jealous that EN management is so good, especially compared to KR.

>>18554142
they are trying to cope with the situation, just saying. Do you expect them to crying out loud and make their fans upset?

>>18555601
>>18555602
You can't deny the timing. What other shit did nijiIN did prior to this?

>>18555805
KR are definitely happy about it, they genuinely hated their management and complained about their incompetence constantly. Things can only improve for them as a group even if some of them are going to graduate.

>>18555791
A couple more of the KR are bailing already, and the timelines basically fit when you'd expect this news would have started circulating internally.

>>18555089
They don’t redeem themselves

>>18555854
should've done this when they still got their branch Ace, Nun Bora

>>18555668
If they continue to provide support to the livers and try to expand the market, maybe. Though I don't know about main branch, it could have been something like NijiWorld, something new that they can later add to. Right now I don't even know how to call them. Nijisanji but not JP or EN? Seems like they're done with them.

>>18555663
Minus -1 of 2 big competitors is still pretty major though and leaves a giant gap in the industry for both groups to fill.

>>18555866
The KR people who mainly catered to the EN and JP crowd will probably be the ones to stay. People like Ray, Seffyna and Hada.

>>18555826
Can't tell if you're genuinely retarded or not but if you are, Mythia isn't in Nijisanji.

>>18555648
Yeah, good luck trusting analytics conveniently thrown in by a company that lies about their internal scandals and constantly uses bots.
>Most people in the SEA who could pay for internet are bilinguals.
Pretty easy to spot fuckers by their SEA English - the one you are using.

>>18552911
Yuya is half back so pls comeback as well bora…

I feel pretty happy with this outcome to be honest. If you are going to have to close down branches because business is business this seems like the best way to go about it instead of firing all the members too.

>>18552947
I'll kill them, right is god-tier
Management, re-open this now!

>>18552779
meanwhile maha5 still going strong and expanding, holo ID 3 are coming, Moona and Ollie close to hit 1M subs, plus Moona will join Holofes and getting 3D, which remind me, any of nijiID getting thier 3D yet?

Niji ID off-collabs will now not be so conveniently named anymore.

Also cancelling their next audition sounds grim regardless of how you look at it.

>>18555981
The main branch IS NijiWorld though. It's not called Nijisanji JP, and some of the talents do speak other languages, albeit rarely. Oliver speaks English for example and frequently collabs with the EN branch.
It seems like this move genuinely aims to build the main Nijisanji roster into one that spans across multiple languages. They might even debut new waves with mixed ID/JP/EN/KR multilingual vtubers.

>>18556085
Hana already meet the requirement to get 3d but choose not to...

>>18553693
document leaked? proof?

>>18556109
Rather than being canceled they're probably restructuring the auditions to cast a wider net outside of just indonesian vtubers? Who knows though.

>>18556085
>Plus Moona will join Holofes and getting 3D
Not just Moona but all of Gen 1. Hololive about to debut a new ID gen and are giving Gen 1 all 3D while having them perform in Hololive's biggest event of the year. Hololive really loves the ID market and is giving them every opportunity. Nijisanji just sacked their ID branch. LMFAO Nijikeks.

>>18556109
My bet is that if someone in ID wants to audition they must also be really fluent in JP or English. Same with the Koreans.

you guys are treating a management overhaul like a mass graduation, holobronies are truly something else
KR's management was notoriously shitty so this can only be a good thing

Hada has a sexy voice.
Seffyna is cute and has cute animations.
Bonnivier is a funny troll.

Those are the ones worth saving.

>>18556085
I swear to god people always bring up Maha5 as this juggernaut in ID yet I only ever hear about them in threads like these. Why don't they have a general or something?

>>18556202
Bonniver is a cringe faggot

>>18556172
or just graduate themselves and join holoID :)

>>18555000
You're mistaking her for Kuzuha.

>>18556226
calm down selen

>>18556244
t.bonnivier
I know you here faggot

>>18556085
Nah, HoloID are not much better. They are a fucking 3views, just like NijiID. Next ID gen is gonna stir things up and cause a bit of an incline for the first 3-4 months and then they will plummet down even lower than now, possibly even lower than current NijiID.

>>18556112
We'll that's more reassuring. By main branch I thought it's grouping them with the JPs reading the posts on here. I'll keep holding out hope for more SEA chuubas then.

>>18556085
>maha5 still going strong and expanding
do you know the CCV of their top talent anon...

>>18556209
Extremely Indog-oriented content and audience, plus not many of them are consistent livestreamers anyway

>>18556228
You can have Bonnivier, Holobeggar.

>>18554086
it's alright one of those prostitutes was saved by joining a smaller agency phase connect

>>18556202
one of them need insulin injection, please let it rest

>>18556261
compared to nijiID, they are far better especially when their viewer isn't ID alone

>>18556261
??????
what?
faggot can you get some source of your claim?

>>18556280
>plus not many of them are consistent livestreamers anyway
Oh that explains it.

>>18556284
we dont accept male faggot

>muh holo vs. niji
Can't you faggots fuck off to some other bait thread?

>>18556015
Who said it was about mythia?

>>18552779
should've named them NEEJEESANJAY

>>18553331
Give me the rundown?

>>18556317
>compared to nijiID, they are far better especially
Compared to the lowest nijiID - yes, they are far better.
Compared to the top 6 nijiID they are still better, but not that far.
>especially when their viewer isn't ID alone
You know that it's a bad thing?

Man.. the amount of cope nijiniggers have /here/ is hillarious KEK

>>18556261
>HoloID are not much better
They're literally own the ID market anon, some faggot says they get crushed by an indie when they can't post actual proof.

>>18556261
>They are a fucking 3views, just like NijiID
Totally wrong, only Iofi could be considered a "3view". All of them have means over 1k and Moona is even ahead of a good portion of NijiEN.

>>18554934
Has there ever been a bigger outfit quality disparity within a single gen?

>>18556419
>H-holoID is not better
>M-merchs doenst count
>F-featured in JPads and JPmerch doesnt count
>S-sc doents count cause it's came from outside
>C-concert doesnt count
>S-subs doesnt count
>O-only anya's and iofi's ccv count of their most debuff stream
>3-3D doesnt count
Nijiniger and cope. Match made in trash bin

>>18556135
NTA, but lemme spoonfeed you....

>>18556515
>Iofi could be considered a "3view"
She's Indo friendly streamer
only if she tried EOP GFE panders
things would be different

>>18556542
HoloID = 3 Anya and 3 Iofi
how new are you?

>>18555572
You should be more worried about a jp senpai using her as a comfort woman.

>>18556542
Kek, Based

>>18552779
Bon...Mika....Hyona. NOOOOOOO.

>>18556616
41% of Moona's channels views is about 9 million views. Not amazing but still a lot.

Her channel is skewed international since she does a lot of covers.

>>18556319
What fucking source do you need? HoloID are literally the most constantly reclining vtuber group of all. Just go to holostats and look at their views year ago and their views now - recline in a magnitude of 2-3 times. Right now, most of them struggle to get 4view ccv on a non-buff streams.

>>18555663
isnt the goat gonna graduate soon and reincarnate again with her og character?

>>18556209
If anyone ever noticed, the inclining Indo chuubas are Mythia, Mira, Sena, Minerva, and other indies/small corpos. Hell, even that faggot Luthfi funded Virtunix to get them a new talent.

>>18556746
faggot that's only Iofi and Anya,

>What fucking source do you need?
How can I believe your bullshit if it's only coming from your ass anon?

>>18556746
That's because if it's not Moona and Risu it sucks. Lets be real here. Ollie keeps doing stupid crap and reclined hard, iofi and debuff dagger don't need to be explained. Reine is ok, I guess.

>>18556346
Too bad, beggars can't be choosers.

>>18556746
at least they got the taste of streaming in front of 10k+ people at the point of their career, niji ID?

>>18556616
>Huge label COVER, CONFIDENTIAL
>Layout and graphs look like they were made by a toddler
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, such a trustworthy leak

>>18556085
cmiiw but doesn't maha5 basically shill products for a living? That's actually a nice monetization method for nijiID but they're just stubborn on supas for some reason

>>18556746
see
>>18556515
you faggot can't even read.

>>18556735
right after mika got her inclined, i thought she could subtitute hana for her ID pr role, but so sad

>>18556887
>Layout and graphs look like they were made by a toddler
That makes it more believable, Cover management is that incompetent anon

>arguing about HoloID vs NijiID when they are both turds, both stinks

>>18556940
not on nijikr management level tho

>>18556941
Just deflection, the thread has nothing to do with Hololive.

>>18556941
this thread had nothing to do with hololive anon?

>>18556941
t. mhity fags who just got cucked hard

>>18556515
iofi...

>>18554998
Flips strong!

>>18556926
And now go and look at their individual stream ccv - for all of them except for leech, they struggle to get over 1k with normal streams and get only decent number during special streams. Whores are gonna recline hard in a non-buff month with all of them dropping below 1k average/median

>>18557263
read
>>18556814
>faggot that's only Iofi and Anya,

CAN YOU FAGGOT READ FOR GOD SAKE!

>>18557010
tell that to the retards who talk about holo in this thread

>other SEAfags are already begging for their own chuubas ITT
kek

>>18557263
>And now go and look at their individual stream ccv, except the one who doesn't go with my rrat
retard

>>18557327
stop replying anon
he doesn't even know his own words

>>18557229
I want to kill the faggots who coined the term Filipinx. Disgusting burger flips.

>>18553867
They did except they took a shotgun and blew hololiveCN's head off after the Taiwan shit.

>>18552779
LMAO
Sasuga niji failure
Now ID and KR are graduating
EN is next

I am pregnant.

>>18556887
>give proof
>t-t-t-that's a lie. yeah that's a lie

>>18552779
kek, this makes it the fourth branch they cut off because it wasnt making enough money

>>18554936
i felt something was off between the gang (amigo) since last month i looked around a bit and it seems that mythia have cut off akemi and went to keigo instead

dunno what happened

>>18557429
This is Pilipinx :)

This thread is going to shit because of tribalfags and holobronies that know nothing. Anyway, I see this as a potential positive for KR and a bad move for ID. KR is already at death's door because of their internal drama and shit management. Meanwhile, ID is already good for the most part and this move seems like it losing their identity as IDvtuber. Not too sure if main anykara management will really help them after the merge.

I just like to hope that this is a not a permanent solution and maybe they will announce NijiIN(International) at early april. It will be the best so that their 3 branch(Main,IN and EN) all managed by the JP. I hope none of the Niji KR and ID graduated because of this.

Newer thread: >>18556404