/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>18523359
Hope she takes care of her abandoned daughter now that she has money.

>>18523645
And under whose care is this daughter? With her ex-husband or with her family?

I don't hate her but I find her special treatment by others annoying. The exaggerated support reeks of virtue signaling.

>>18523359
Genuinely the happiest I've been to see a vtuber reach a goal. She deserves it so fucking much bros.

The subathon will never end

>>18523359
I bet her space-aids is fake

>>18523938
>ex-husband
kek, more like unprotected casual sex on her teens. she is a whore.

>/vt/ having a mental breakdown over a non-holo being popular

>>18524180
back to your hugbox containment thread faggot

>>18523359
>gets big mainstream attention
>lots of people begin to look into vshojo
>they see the kind of content the rest of vshojo makes and become disgusted
>multiple coordinated articles release on the same day calling for the cancellation of vtubers
>people pushing back against it are forced to justify degenerate behavior to a wider audience
>twitch crumbles to pressure and removes all vtubers from their platform
>salty anime fans unite with vtubers to push back from media shutdown, makes the defense look worse
>Ironmouse permanently becomes the face of tubergate and the rest of her career is spent in controversy defending her existence

What is the long-term plan exactly? If she's still streaming 5 years from now, then what? People still going to throw themselves at her for 'powering on despite everything'? Will there be a backlash if she's still alive? Let's say she actually passes away and it truly is as bad as she says, will the money go to her parents? Her daughter? A charity that Gigguk and Joey secretly put together for people with her condition which suddenly collapses a short while later with the money missing? Will her fans trickle down to her disgusting genmates who'll sob for subs?

>>18524504
I think she prepared a will for such a circumstance.

>>18524504
she's been playing up her "illness" for years and begging for subs, clout, follows etc. all the while under the insinuation that she only has months left to live. her gullible paypig audience would probably accept at face value if she claimed to have been miraculously cured.

Keep in mind that fags from r/lsf are currently coming to this board to farm heckin reactions
Props to her sure but I wish people would stop mentioning always her condition Everytime she's on the spotlight fucking christ

>>18523965
Very much this. If she didn't have her illness to fall back on no one would care about her at all.

>>18524404
back to your hugbox containment board faggot

>>18524919
I'm not a doctor and I don't know about her illness, but since she is about 40 and still alive, it isn't that serious.

>>18525096
rofl this IS the Holo containment board, retard.

>>18524504
Pretty sure her long time plan is to fucking die lmao

/vt/ really needs to learn the difference between "chronically ill" and "terminally ill".

>>18525119
>I'm not a doctor and I don't know about her illness
Could've just stopped there retard

Oh fuck the jannies are here cheese it

>>18525161
Literally none of the people who participate in these threads have watched a stream of hers. She hardly ever brings up her sickness except when it interferes with stream plans or to talk about her progress.

you can really smell the poor in this thread

>>18525255
Years ago the first time I heard of her is when she said she needed money for something medical and then got flooded with donos.

>>18525439
Yes because clippers highlight and promote that shit. She's got hundreds upon hundreds of hours of streams and her sickness comes up maybe once or twice a month.

>>18525482
Honestly the worst part about Vshojo is that they insert themselves into content I might otherise enjoy. I used to atch Sodapoppin highlights but no half of them include Veibae and sometimes when I watch CDawgVA videos because I like Abroad in Japan she's wormed her way in there. That's my only personal problem because after the nux shit I don't want to see or hear them at all.

>>18524180
Many such cases

>>18525593
they've all become complacent with success and now rely solely on making the same tired sex jokes every thirty seconds. even someone who used to be able to carry a stream with more balanced commentary (discussing the actual game she's playing/life anecdotes/occasional silly bit) like nyanners feels like she's phoning it in most of the time nowadays

>>18523359
The only thing I don't like is that people make it believe that her being sick is a part of her character. Even when I am in her twitch chat, I see people saying how inspirational she is and all that because she has been suffering from a disease all this time which leaves a sour taste in my mouth and to a person who knows nothing about her it seems they are only famous because of their sickness.
I will be honest, I don't know much about IronMouse because frankly, I think she does a lot of reaction content(and I feel a VTuber doing reactions is just meh. Its ok if a VTuber does it occasionally as it feels like a breath of fresh air) and her reactions some how does not add anything to the content she is reacting to.
I like her interactions with Connor though.
Overall I am completely neutral about this as I am not attached to her like others nor do I hate her. I just find her content to be meh at times so I don't watch her. That's it

>>18525738
It has become part of her character like it or not. I've seen people calling her the only tolerable vshojo solely because of her health issues. For the people who don't watch her streams she is "that one with a health condition" vtuber.

>>18525728
Nyanners is still the best VShojo entertainer ny far. I say as a Holofag that no one in Vshojo is even close to Nyanners when it comes to entertainment.
She maybe a problem child, but is an amazing creator

>>18523359
>holofags are feeling inferior to vshitshow
this is fucking hilarious on too many levels

>>18525593
>Abroad in Japan
Conner and Joey spend a frightening amount of time swinging from Chris Broad's dick.

>>18526027
Yeah I started getting back into his content againr recently and I've noticed that. I feel like Conner has good chemistry with Chris. I can't comment much on Joey as I still need to catch up.

>>18523359
This

Watching what she is doing now makes her no better than DarksydePhil and Wings of Redemption. Shameless e-begging. Its kind of disgusting.

>>18525905
I mean as I said, I dont really give a shit about all that. Its either she is actually brings her problems quite a lot on stream or her fans are absolute fucking retards who are just supporting her because she is sick. I mean who does not have problems?
Amelia, Kiara, Haachama, Number of Nijisanji Vtubers, Nyanners, etc all have had a rough childhood/still suffering. But why is it only IronMouse who has been labelled as the sick Vtuber. Think about it?

>>18523359
Shartfag seething because shart is not the number 1 EN chuuba anymore.

>>18526094
TT need to be quarantined to their own shit exclusively and not leech off anyone else. At least Chris has his own friends (and Sharla increasingly) to bounce off.

>>18525738
> I just find her content to be meh at times so I don't watch her.
You watch Hololive en and Nijisanji En Vtubers. you don't get to talk shit about other people's content

>>18526133
>he watched the Down the Rabbit Hole videos
you could have at least picked another vtuber

I long for a Nyanners decline for the sole reason of wanting to see how quickly it will take her to resort to loli pandering again.

>>18526274
Hopefully loli pandering for a small while to be immediately followed by becoming an hero.

>>18526274
>implying the pink gato exists now other than to fuel ironmouse earnings

>>18526163
>Shartfag seething because shart is not the number 1 EN chuuba anymore.
what?
she still is the #1 Vtuber rn. She may not get as many live viewers as Pekora, Kuzuha, Aqua but she get the most views in total for the number of hours she streams. Every video she does gets atleast 350-400K views and she barely streams for like 2 hours. And I am not even the op or a shrimp, but saying she isn't #1 is laughable.

>>18526154
None of them have went through what Iron Mouse had gone through.
She is more of an idol than anyone in Hololive considering she gives everyone hope and considering how inspiring she is. So keep coiping.
Plus she is the number 1 VTuber in the world rn

>>18526600
NO
GURA IS

>>18523359
>Rushia situation so distressing that they're using Ironmouse to deflect
would be funny if it weren't so sad.

>>18526600
This is exactly what I was saying. She has actually one of the worst fans who only bring in her condition.
And you have no idea what the hell did Nyanners, Amelia, Haachama had to go through. So zip it

>>18526228
>You don't get to talk shit about other people's content
Go back to twitch

>>18524041
She gets extremely ashamed whenever you can hear the oxygen machine in the background and tries to mask it. It's legit.

We will crusade all of you niggers out of this board in the name of our sacred oshi

>>18526395
Oh great, we've got a disgusting vodfag here who thinks that metric that increases every time when you refresh stream/switch tabs during stream/refresh vod, is more important than concurrent viewers.

>>18523359
subscribed, I can cure her

>>18527193
>Oh great, we've got a disgusting vodfag here who thinks that metric that increases every time when you refresh stream/switch tabs during stream/refresh vod, is more important than concurrent viewers.
First you don't understand how the view system works, get some info.
Second yes, I am a proud Vod watcher because I can't catch Gura's stream while i am sleeping or working.
And by your stupid logic, the vod views should be 0, but Gura gets more than half of her views from Vod. So stfu dude

holy shit it really was a shrimp

>>18527334
>First you don't understand how the view system works, get some info.
Clear case of projecting. Gets told off that vod views are shitty metric, tries to deflect with "y-you don't know how it works". Pathetic.
>And by your stupid logic, the vod views should be 0
No, I am saying that 90% of Gura's audience are fucking stupid children with undeveloped brain that keep switching tabs, refreshing streams/vods, clicking through all her vods.

>>18526928
>and you have no idea what the hell did Nyanners, Amelia, Haachama had to go through. So zip it
considerably less than mouse. >>18526600 is a retard for only mentioning her condition since its something that doesn't come up nearly as often as Holofags like to pretend it does but he's objectively correct.

>>18527567
"y-you don't know how it works".
because you dont
>that keep switching tabs, refreshing streams/vods, clicking through all her vods.
That's not how youtube views work ffs. Vods on youtube are essentially videos. If you watch the video again, it in no way does increase the view count. It will increase her watch time and will increase her add revenue(because longer the video=more ads) and will get that specific video recommend more to the people who watch similar type of videos. Youtube is not like spotify where the views increase everytime you play a song.
It counts the view on that specific account as 1 view, no matter how many times you play it.

>>18527886
>that is on one setting btw
I forgot to add this point

>>18527886
For 1 day, you can only give 1 view is what i mean, not like spotify

>>18527886
>because you dont
Once again, pathetic.
>If you watch the video again, it in no way does increase the view count.
Lmao, you are just outed yourself as someone who has no clue about topic. It not only increases when you watch it again, you don't even have to watch it fully. You can just refresh 10 times in a span of couple of seconds and there will be 10 new vod views. Do some reps, retard.
>It counts the view on that specific account as 1 view, no matter how many times you play it.
I have only 2 explanations why you believe that:
1. You are retarded and genuinely don't know how it really works. Maybe you thought that because after refreshing, the number is the same, completely oblivious that youtube updates viewers in it's own internal time intervals, not every time you load the vod page.
2. You are desperately trying to lie to save your face after you got shat on.

>>18528256
>Lmao, you are just outed yourself as someone who has no clue about topic. It not only increases when you watch it again, you don't even have to watch it fully. You can just refresh 10 times in a span of couple of seconds and there will be 10 new vod views. Do some reps, retard.
Do your fucking reps anon.If you continuously play a video alot on repeat in a row, youtube will stop counting views on that video after sometime to protect spam even though you are good there (This happens for sometime then like next day you watch again your views will count again).
This was the reason Kiara was getting her views cut after a day. Get some info.
>I have only 2 explanations why you believe that:
1. You are retarded and genuinely don't know how it really works. Maybe you thought that because after refreshing, the number is the same, completely oblivious that youtube updates viewers in it's own internal time intervals, not every time you load the vod page.
2. You are desperately trying to lie to save your face after you got shat on.
You are being a hypocrite here, I said this for 1 day. No matter how many times you view it in a day, view count wont increase unlike spotify. Get some fucking info ffs

>>18525482
She's pretty open about it though
She takes meds at 10PM, which is during her normal stream time
So if you watch even one Ironmouse stream, you will learn she has a medical condition

>>18528413
Anon dont bother. He is just jealous and will keep spreading bullshit like how Gura's fanbase is normy and full of children even though IronMouse is the biggest normie Vtuber there. Dont bother

>>18528256
>Lmao, you are just outed yourself as someone who has no clue about topic. It not only increases when you watch it again, you don't even have to watch it fully. You can just refresh 10 times in a span of couple of seconds and there will be 10 new vod views. Do some reps, retard.
Am I reading this right??
are you as retarded as your IronMouse or what?
Youtube is know to have an advanced Algo which is able to detect the spam feature. So basically, no matter how many times you watch a video, it will count it as one if you don't give it a time of about 18 hours

>>18528413
>If you continuously play a video alot on repeat in a row
I never mentioned that, do your reading reps. All I said - refreshes (for stream and vod) and tab switches (for stream).
>You are being a hypocrite here, I said this for 1 day. No matter how many times you view it in a day, view count wont increase unlike spotify. Get some fucking info ffs
Just to prove myself right, I did a test (and I strongly recommend for retards like you to try it out too):
1. Find some literal who streamer with low vod views (you can do that by going to yt gaming, picking some game and finding some streamer with 0 viewers and picking one of his vods). I found someone who had 1-2 digit vods.
2. Pick a random vod of his archive, preferably with low views. I picked one with 12 views.
3. Refresh a bunch of time for a good period of time. I did for like a solid 20-30 seconds
4. Wait for a couple of minutes.
5. Voila! You've got some fresh views. I increased his vod views from 12 to 31. I think it didn't count all refreshes, because I was refreshing really fast, but good enough.

>>18529008
Doesn't work with bigger YouTube channels

>>18529140
Absolute cope and filthy lies, I am done with you, retard.

>>18528413
>>18528892
One little addition.
As a conclusion, that proves that none of you know how youtube vods work. And also proves that Gura is indeed not a Number 1 EN vtuber anymore.
Just had to make sure to repeat this statement after all this goalpost moving.

I'm just waiting for the deathbed stream.

>>18529008
>never mentioned that, do your reading reps. All I said - refreshes (for stream and vod) and tab switches (for stream).

That is actually the same. If you are using the same account, it will detect it as spam.
No matter id you refresh the vod and switch tabs. If you are using the same account, it wont get counted.
>Just to prove myself right, I did a test (and I strongly recommend for retards like you to try it out too):
>1. Find some literal who streamer with low vod views (you can do that by going to yt gaming, picking some game and finding some streamer with 0 viewers and picking one of his vods). I found someone who had 1-2 digit vods.
>2. Pick a random vod of his archive, preferably with low views. I picked one with 12 views.
>3. Refresh a bunch of time for a good period of time. I did for like a solid 20-30 seconds
>4. Wait for a couple of minutes.
>5. Voila! You've got some fresh views. I increased his vod views from 12 to 31. I think it didn't count all refreshes, because I was refreshing really fast, but good enough.

Wont work with a video above 10K.
Second youtube is known to cutt off views after hours if it detects it. I will give you an example. @ hours ago, Kronii had 85K views on her latest super chat reading. Now its 82K
So this becomes null and void

>>18529304
>As a conclusion, that proves that none of you know how youtube vods work. And also proves that Gura is indeed not a Number 1 EN vtuber anymore.
>Just had to make sure to repeat this statement after all this goalpost moving.
Cope+Ratio+L+Your Oshi fell off

>>18529304
Cry harder

>>18529304

>>18529304
lmao

>>18529304
stop falseflagging you nigger

>>18529333
Checked.
Assisted suicide by nakadashi stream when?

>>18529497
>2. Pick a random vod of his archive, preferably with low views. I picked one with 12 views.
>3. Refresh a bunch of time for a good period of time. I did for like a solid 20-30 seconds
>4. Wait for a couple of minutes.
>5. Voila! You've got some fresh views. I increased his vod views from 12 to 31. I think it didn't count all refreshes, because I was refreshing really fast, but good enough.
Holy moly the level of copium. I just tried it with a video rn, and it stopped counting after a few tries. And I am quite positive that the views like this get removed by youtube considering Elira lost 5K vod views from her Vod the week she revealed her new costume

>>18529304
>Don't mind me, everyone is making fun of you. So i thought I should hop on the laughing at the retard train as well

> 50k subs were gifted
Why does this metric even matter?

>>18525119
She has CVID, Common Variable Immune Deficiency
>Common variable immunodeficiency (CVID) is an immune disorder characterized by recurrent infections and low antibody levels, specifically in immunoglobulin (Ig) types IgG, IgM and IgA

>>18531202
She has Covid?! Quick, blow her lungs out with a ventilator set to max!

>>18531202
so she should die?

>>18530589
>why does $250k donations matter

>>18535103
Yes, please.

She sings beautifully.
She's clever.
She's in her fifth year of streaming, starting off with 5 viewers.
She is going to make more money than anyone reading this thread.
Her tsundere act with Connor is brilliant theater.
I honestly believe she started streaming because she was dying of lonleiness.

>>18543908
>She's clever.
i can agree with everything else but this is just wrong

>>18543908
None of this is true by the way. If she was actually as talented as you make her out to be she would be in a real vtuber agency instead of VSlutshow. Seriously, fuck off.

>>18544672
This man is jealous of a Vtuber, everyone point and laugh at his virginity

>>18544831
So if she was so talented why is she e-begging so hard? E-begging is reserved for lolcows like DarksidePhil. If she was talented the money would naturally come to her.

>>18545022
Would you consider Xqc an e begged since he too did a subathon just like this

>>18545022
Come now, she's just making the most out of her situation, what's wrong with that?

>>18545111
Yes, its pathetic, especially for somebody who already has tons of money
>>18545135
E-begging isn't "making the most out of her situation". Its a pathetic display of literally begging for money. Its all the more pathetic when somebody like IronWhore, who is already rich, is doing it. As mentioned on the previous example as well.

>>18545022
I agree she shouldn't have started the subathon. She expected it to last a couple days at most, which was retarded. However stopping it now would mean scamming all the fans who donated, so she really can't.

>>18545259
Bruh I don’t wanna talk about this but she is very very sick, relying on an oxygen mask and is bed ridden a lot of the time, you tell me how someone makes money to sustain themselves like that

>>18545331
>bruh
>shit argument (appeal to emotion, yes she was already living comfortably and even started supporting her parents financially)
please contain yourself in vsj or fuck off.

>>18545331
Judging by the amount of subs and donations she had before this pathetic e-begging display she was already rich.

>Bruh I don't wanna talk about this but she is very very sick
DYRBI

Interesting how this level of seething only happened after she reached a million and not before

>>18545259
So tell me, what should she do in her current situation?

>>18545496
Stream like normal instead of being an e-begging whore. Although being whores comes naturally to VSlutshow

>>18545442
You're not the one giving her money, so why do you care so much?

>>18545496
NTA I'm pretty sure she isn't doing the subathon for money. I'm told there were other times when she actually needed money for treatments and she simply asked. besides at the point she has been for a while I doubt even for her condition she needs to even ask for the money and simple earns it normally with her normal sub levels. She probably did this subathon because she has seen other content creators do it and liked the vibe of it. But I and others really just hate what subathons are and don't like that it has become a piece of streaming culture

>>18526027
The nippon don

>>18544672
>A real vtuber agency
I'd say the agency that has the biggest female streamer on all of Twitch is a real one.

>>18544672
Like what agency? Nijisanji's 3views or Hololive's carbon copies?

>>18526133
Just now?
She literally calls her fans her “precious family”. It’s manipulation to the highest degree. I pegged her as a parasocial user the moment she cried to her chat about how they made her feel “normal” over a year ago.

>>18546101
Well I wasn't really talking about that. Manipulation and forming parasocial relationships can be considered scummy but its less blatant and at least takes some skill to keep up the ruse.

What she is doing now is just flat out shameless e-begging. Literally no strings attached begging for money like a pan handler.

>>18546177
There are strings attached though. She's had numerous goals on screen and each one that gets achieved unlocks something new. It's even always visible on stream 24/7 which the retards making these threads would know if they looked for even a second lol.

>>18546289
>male ironmouse
Imagine how hideous that would sound with her squeaker voice

I don't count Twitch subs. Gura never really did anything that begged for subs the entire time she's been on Hololive. She's never had a Subathon or Karaoke count down to some certain benchmark.

>>18524180
hey faggot, nijinigger here. go the fuck back to /vsj/ and take your Westerner whores with you.

>>18523359
all she does is watch tiktoks I dont get it

>>18546638
90% of IronWhore's content is just reaction content.

>>18543908
>She sings beautifully
She's good, but nowhere near people like Suisei.
>She's clever
my sides are in fucking orbit.
>She's in her fifth year of streaming, starting off with 5 viewers.
Same with Sora. Your point being?
>She is going to make more money than anyone reading this thread.
And Holo makes more than them. Your point being?
>Her tsundere act with Connor is brilliant theater.
Connor is unironically someone who drags down a stream by even so much as sharing a space with a chuuba.
>I honestly believe she started streaming because she was dying of lonleiness.
Unlike most chuubas lol

>>18546758
>90% of Twitch content is just reaction content.
ftfy

So she's going to donate the money to poor kids in Africa or something right? What charity was it for?

>>18523359
Hello from /a/. Reminder that if she wasnt a vTuber and was a facecam streamer, EVERYONE would be shitting on her. But I guess streaming behind a poorly animated live2d avatar is an excuse to get away with anything because its totally an anime girl. Continue being proud of being simps.

>>18547077
>s totally an anime girl. Continue being proud of being simps.

Based.

>>18547077
>Reminder that if she wasnt a vTuber and was a facecam streamer, EVERYONE would be shitting on her.
You have no idea what you're talking about. Plenty of facecam viewers do subathons all the time and they're generally received fine for the most part.
In fact a facecam viewer was literally being celebrated months earlier for beating the record for most subbed female streamer at that time.

>>18523359
>begging panhandler
That is literally every kind of artist or entertainer, dipshit.

>>18545022
>lolcows
fuck off back to your website you rancid roastie whore

No, I won't donate plasma
No, I won't sub (unless it's gifted)
No, I won't respect her faggot mods

Simple as

>>18547406
most of them have the slightest shred of dignity that would prevent them from running a multi-week charity drive with themselves as the sole recipient

>>18548402
>Muh dignity
By any chance do you live in the Medieval or Victorian Era?

>>18548402
Not really. Plenty of streamers have done subathons. https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/14/22362532/ludwig-twitch-subathon-ends-stream-ninja-subs-record

>>18548515
Yeah subathons were already a popular thing with Twitch in general way before Ironmouse did one. People here keep showing they have no idea what they're talking about.

>>18545261
So when will it realistically end? Because it really seems as if she's milking this shit for every single drop ($$$) her following will give her, which it seems is endless. Makes her seem greedy.

>>18523359h
Rushia threatens fandead she wants to kill herself, KWAB, this is nothing holobronies

>>18548627
>Because it really seems as if she's milking this shit for every single drop ($$$) her following will give her, which it seems is endless. Makes her seem greedy.
how so anon, simply by continuing to stream? as I said, stopping it now would be much worse, but I guarantee she'd rather this shit be over.

>>18548627
Ludwig (before he moved to YouTube) had his whole subathon go on for a month, before he decided to cap it off there.
Most people on Twitch celebrated it as a good thing. For some reason people don't seem to have a problem with this stuff.

>>18546486
Hence why Gura reigns supreme. Don't even care about holocringe but no one will ever reach the heights Gura is capable of.

>>18548736
to be fair, it's entirely the donator's choice to keep it going

>>18548784
Yeah that's true, really no one else to blame if you keep spending your money on streamers

>>18548730
What would the backlash even be, if there even is one? As it is, her whole following would be understanding and any voice who opposes the hugbox her chat is would get promptly banned. These simps would even be glad they gave her money without receiving any more extra stream time for it.

>>18548445
I know this might come as a shock to you considering your absentee father never taught you this and your sole remaining parental figure (your mother) takes it up the ass ten times a week and lets her boyfriends molest you, but most people outside the government subsidized housing you probably live in have something called a conscience that would normally prevent them from emotionally manipulating their own audience. She's perfectly aware how easy it is to exploit lonely virginal high schoolers desperate for female validation so long as she keeps up the pretense that she has some tragic circumstance that can only be cured if you spend millions keeping her stream active while she drools on herself making half-baked commentary and texting Connor in the middle of some zoomer humor compilation how pathetic she thinks her own audience is.

>>18549031
you sound deranged anon.

>>18549184
Nice retort, faggot.

>>18530218
Adding something , how many retard in real life actually refresh a stream more than 1 time just to add more view to a hours-long stream?

>>18549197
You do though. The support she's getting makes it obvious you're the one with a problem here. Everyone else is fine with it.

>>18549446
will you fags form a death cult and join your perfect spicy senorita in oblivion when the time finally comes

>>18549732

>>18549446
Exactly my point. She could take a dump in your face and you'd thank her for it since you're "showing her support" like all these people she's milking.

>>18549871

>>18549813
is that the bliss of knowing your John Hinkley Jr esque fixation on a generic twitch thot will finally pay off when she acknowledges your sacrifice at the gates of Heaven

>>18549948

>>18549171
I know this might come as a shock to you, but in a capitalist society where money is king, people don't give a shit about morals when they're gonna starve to death.

A friendly tip, you aren't gonna change anything by schizoposting on /veetee/. If you want something to be done, post on other websites or how about this, instead of seething at other people's success you turn off the computer and do something productive with your time? Sounds better yes?

>>18549989
>when they're gonna starve to death

>>18549989
lmao she wasn't about to "starve" you fucking idiot

>>18524022
It should end today. She's down to like 4 hours and the oil daddies are spent.

>>18545331
That is the point of the whole thread. You can't even engage in mild criticism without faggots like you going muh illness to deflect. All you're doing is putting a target on her back for shitposters. Also as her boyfriend I give her plenty of money.