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>audition page prominently displays males
>T-chan explicitly answers “YEP!” to the question “will it also include male applicants?”
>Kiara and Ina being coy around the idea of starsEN when they could have just kept their mouths shut
It is inevitable.

>> No.18538938 [DELETED] 

>>18538865
The end is coming. The great cuckening is happening. The jewish overlords and henchman have come to destroy what's left of our home.

>> No.18539107

>>18538865
I hate it, they will stream even less and just chat on discord with a bunch of twinks.

>> No.18539209

>no game permissions ever
>gains fame exclusively through controversy
100% chance they're getting men and they will be collabing with the girls
>no...NOOOOOOOO they'll refuse
Just like they refused showing up for that woke charity right?

>> No.18539279

>>18538865
>It is inevitable.
If it's inevitable, at the very least, what would you like to see?
What mistakes would you want them to avoid?

>> No.18539485

>>18538865
I think a Gigachad, more or less like Oga but more roider and with less horns, vtuber would be nice, Calli would love it.

>> No.18539488

>>18538865
They see Vox Ike and Mysta's money and they're not going to stop until they either get it or create a new stars to toil in obscurity and misery

>> No.18539620

Hololive fans are really easy and fun to bully and you know deep down they couldn't take it.

>> No.18539771

>>18539488
Well, that's one way to increase their Chinese viewership. Who knows StarsEN might indirectly resurrect HoloCN

>> No.18539782

>>18539107
Yeah, i think it's not pointed out that they took the opportunity of being 2 gens instead of once to stream considerably less often. With holostars you're going to see some of them streaming 1-2 per week.

>> No.18539795

>>18538865
They should lower their standard for the males and not afraid of hiring a literal who. Who knows if they could get someone like Mysta or Luca

>> No.18539871

>>18539771
isnt hololive banned in china now? there's no way CN will come back.

>> No.18539915

>>18539771
Most of china's completely written off anything hololive related. I'm guessing they'll get NA hour streamers and hope for the best since no one's really gone for the male NA market yet.

>> No.18540615

>>18539279
No faggots. That is all

>> No.18540667

Yeah, I'm getting into Hololive and you can't stop me.

>> No.18540772

>>18538865
Get ready for the cuckening

>> No.18540780

>>18539795
>Mysta
No fucking thanks
>Luca
Eh that would be ok

>> No.18541487

>>18538865
call it how many suicides when its announced
I can confirm at least one

>> No.18541797

>>18538865
Nijimutt thread

>> No.18541815
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>>18538865
StarsEN should be all furry baras.

-The girls will find them too cringe to collab with
-The company would still make bank from all the furry fetishists

Easy win!
Problem solved.

>> No.18541891

>>18541487
2

>> No.18541967

>>18539795
>hire a literal who
Literal who's don't have a long enough streaming track record. If you're charismatic enough for corpo and streaming for the minimum amount of time they want weekly you'll at least have a few thousand followers. Hiring a non-streaming voice actor might work for them though, Vox really popped off considering how little he knew about streaming before hand.

>> No.18542071

>>18541797
it sure will be satisfying to watch after hololive made nijisanji fall for the ENshit meme

>> No.18542084

>>18541967
> Vox really popped off considering how little he knew about streaming before hand.
Not this shit again

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>"I want StarsEN"
>>18541815

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>>18542071

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>>18538865
StarsEN should all be chuuni schizo shounenfags who tells the viewers to get fit they can look like their favorite shonen character
>the girls will find them to be too cringe, chuuni and too "masculine" to collab and interact with
>Cover would tap into that hidden shonenfag market
>give them a gimmick where they get a new ability or power up when they reach a certain sub count
>they should have that "bro" energy to them thats not too on the nose masculine and not that closeted faggotry
Easy win! I'll be expecting my paycheck, Cover. No, scratch that. Let me date my Oshi as compensation and as a token of thanks for for my brilliant idea

>> No.18542470

>>18542275
Also
>since they wont larp as literal faggots, they can be comfortable with themselves
>have their backstory as underdog as possible like have them not as all mighty as the en girls but strong enough to be considered as a shonen character
I'm still waiting for that compensation, Cover

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>>18538865
I get to post this two days in a row! Really ramping up my schizo-ing lately.


I'm here to remind you that Westerners don't care about the stars, or your oshi. They don't actually want to watch them, listen to them, or care about their growth. They hate your JP chuuba, they hate your oshi, they hate idols and want them destroyed (while conflating idolfags with gachifags at that), and merely use them as a platform, tool, or for social grandstanding for the sake of social grandstanding. They WILL try to fuck your oshi if Covers recent talent scouts screening ability is anything to go by, and anyone pretending someone like that doesn't exist or is unlikely to apply hasn't spent one day on the internet. I sincerely feel bad for any EN star who just wants to stream have fun sing and generally entertain people without worrying about collab begging, leeching accusations, genmates being sexpests, hate for no reason, people using you as a reason to preach to others about things you don't care about, people trying to give you hand outs as you try your best to improve by your own efforts, people who'll scold you for not collabing with the girls, people who'll scold you for collabing with the girls, people who'll scold you if you don't grandstand like they do, and people who you don't want to have to tell to fuck off with shipping, either mxm or mxf. If you're reading this and you did get in, do yourself a favor and put your foot down HARD from day one and make an example out of these types, or damn all future gens as well as yourself to a fiery, hellish, self-sanctimonious death.
I'll be adding to this collage (a twitter only collage, imagine if I had gone through reddit too) as much as I can, until I see them debut. Wish me luck.

t. Raging, raging Homofag

Yes, I am schizo.

>> No.18544124

>>18543483
Based

>> No.18544341

>>18538865
what's with all these StarsEN posters lately? is it just to make people mad now that the Rushia GFE died?

>> No.18544410

>>18541815
Would watch unironically, that shit makes me cunt fucking gush.

>> No.18544577

>>18543483
Time to find a new corpo to support, brother. Things are going to progress in a way you aren't going to be happy about very soon. It was nice while it lasted but male/female mix is too profitable to ignore anymore.

>> No.18544621

>>18543483
i for one cant take it, will ruin hololive in general for me, they will never be distant like the jp stars, if they go thru with this they are literaly telling me to fuck off.

>> No.18544628

>>18539209
>that woke charity right?
It was a convention. Neither Cover, nor the girls give a flying fuck what convention did with the money from the tickets. They were there for the fans.

>> No.18544840

>>18544577
I don't watch en, I watch jp lmao. I still hate the shitty losers who demand a starsen for all these retarded reasons and will continue to shit on them for dragging the stars name through the mud.

>> No.18544941

>>18543483
>hate idol culture
>refuse to watch NijiJP, NijiEN, Vshojo, or any indies
>demand that hololive becomes like the things that they don't watch

why?

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>>18541815
I actually imagined if I got in I'd try to ask my mama for a bara furry alt

>> No.18545395

>>18544941
No, you misunderstand. I've checked, many of these people DO watch those others that match their tastes, but they want Hololive to change to be the same as those exact companies. It's like they think the key to being a successful streamer/streaming company is to copy others and blend in the the crowd as much as humanly possible (explaining why so many of these indies are so forgettable).

>> No.18545455

>>18543483
based homofag, but i'm not as pessimistic as you are

HoloEN happened because there was a spike in interest among english speakers with HoloJP, no such thing has happened with the stars, it's almost entirely extrapolating from luxiem--i think they're testing the waters for interest in the stars with some of the steps over the past few months but there hasn't really been a surge in interest in them at all. also, they've apparently seen starsEN as a possibility from the beginning which is why all gens have accepted male applicants, but per rikka they both haven't gotten enough male applicants and haven't gotten enough *quality* male applicants to make starsEN a worthy venture, this could change with future open auditions but it's possible that they just have standards that are near-impossible for a starsEN applicant to reach (unless there are actual western homofags who are into male idols)

the other thing with beggars is that they'll constantly attack (a strawman of) gachikoi/unicorn fans but they'll never, ever criticize a chuuba themselves, if a holo doesn't show interest in collabing with men they're not likely to push the issue other than maybe one autistic superchat here or there. if gura or fauna says "i'm really not interested in collabing with the stars" they'll probably surrender the issue

>> No.18545505

>>18538865
Yeah i've been weening myself off of Holo content so the blow is less painful when it happens. Incompetent managers not being able to secure permissions for anything is making it easier.

>> No.18545509

>>18545395
A few of them have Hololive emoji symbols in their handles (the squirrel) but yeah you're probably right

>> No.18545520

>>18545455
>they both haven't gotten enough male applicants and haven't gotten enough *quality* male applicants to make starsEN a worthy venture
This will continue to be true for a long time

>> No.18545600

>>18542470
>have their backstory as underdog as possible like have them not as all mighty as the en girls but strong enough to be considered as a shonen character
This is already the shonen arc of the current Holostars so that checks out

>> No.18545621

>>18543483
>ignoring your loyal, obsessed and most profitable customers
yes, good job twitter faggots. beginning of the end

>> No.18545634

>>18545520
>Luxiem

>> No.18545675

>>18545455
continuing because i have another thought, best starsEN scenario is something like:

>3-5 males who are at least semi-interested in idol culture and/or kpop, given somewhat lax management so have wider berth for outside collabs with luxiem, indies, etc.
>ideally have decent japanese knowledge to collab frequently with the stars and promote them to a western audience (so they can cultivate actual fans and not just homobeggars)
>maintain the JP standard of "can collab with holoEN as long as the girls ask first", so their collab partners would likely just be the ENs who have shown more openness to male collabs to begin with (mori, bae, maybe mumei)

>> No.18545696

>>18543483
>stating the truth that westerners are latching onto vtubers to use for their retarded culture war
>schizo
Doubt.

>> No.18545769

>>18545634
Males actually want to join Niji, being a Holostars would suck unless you are based enough to join just to fuck another Holostar

>> No.18545799

>>18541815
Based

>> No.18545810

>>18545634
Retardchama Luxiem fans are going to try to join NijiEN not Holostars

>> No.18545855

>>18538865
Expect Nepotism.

>> No.18545903

>>18545855
Nepotism would keep out people trying to fuck Gura at least

>> No.18545949 [DELETED] 

>>18545855
What are the odds that they would except a little indie vtuber named veryneet if he applied?

>> No.18545987

>>18545903
>inb4 they hire gura's bf

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>>18545949

>> No.18546068

>>18543483
Someone post this to 5ch

>> No.18546193

>>18543483
You are doing us a major service. You have my deepest thanks, anon.

>> No.18546301

>>18539871
The merch I got from Hololive was made in China.

>> No.18546372

>>18545675
>>ideally have decent japanese knowledge to collab frequently with the stars and promote them to a western audience (so they can cultivate actual fans and not just homobeggars)
better they have zero japanese so there is no chance of jp collab.

>> No.18546551

>>18546372
They'd be collabing with the JP stars and maybe with the few JPs who already do male collabs (Fubuki, Suisei, Matsuri). Don't see the issue if it's not forced, which JP management wouldn't do.

>> No.18546615

>>18546372
Dumbass if you don't want them to rely on the EN girls for collabs you should hope they all speak Japanese, then they would work mostly with the other stars

>> No.18546711

When StarsEN happens I think I'm gonna drop Holo EN. The only ones I follow are Gura and Ina and they don't seem to be the type that would push for collabs with them, but I also think Mori and management will push hard for it and they'll eventually give in. I hope not, but it honestly doesn't look very likely right now.

>> No.18546858

Thank you OP for the containment thread.

>> No.18546979

Here's hoping HoloEN causes the mental shattering of every unicorn around
I want Rushia tier meltdowns for every single EN girl

>> No.18547050

>>18546979
Why do bicorns constantly talk like JRPG villains?

>> No.18547309

>>18547050
Why don't (You)? Life is fucking boring and this is a chuuba board.

>> No.18547392

>>18546711
>I also think Mori and management will push hard for it and they'll eventually give in
The JP girls barely collab with the Stars as it is, why would things be any different with an EN Stars branch? Barely any fans know or pay attention to the Stars compared to Hololive, things wouldn't magically change and the fanbases between the two are radically different now.

>> No.18547615

I fucking hope Mori and co stay away from IRyS

>> No.18547657

>>18547392
because half the EN girls are already savior fags for holostars and would collab with them already if it was their own choice, ENstars woudnt decline collabs like the JP, or worse, they may seek it. Ollie and mori would also force them on every girl every chance they get.

>> No.18547767

>>18547657
We'd probably be drowning in Stars collabs at this point then, but I think that just ignores the fact that most of the girls don't really care either way.

>> No.18547807

I made an infographic about this but it was 'too large to upload'. Sausage, gookmoot.

>> No.18547834

>>18547657
This. It's not even a matter of the more conversatives one wanting it, it's just that the other ones will pressure them so much that they will be left with no choice but to collab with them in order to avoid awkward situations.

>> No.18547839

>>18547657
>because half the EN girls are already savior fags for holostars and would collab with them already if it was their own choice
it literally is their choice, and they choose not to (other than mori, baelz, and mumei, though the latter i think just got roped into a collab)

ID has always done male collabs, mori could be a problem though i don't know how hard she would actually push the issue, i don't think she wants to get openly confrontational with any of her colleagues

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>> No.18547893

>>18547807
split it in half if possible

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>> No.18547957

>>18547767
read again, they only do not do it because the jpstars themselves decline it for the most part. shien straight up said no to ame collab for example.

>> No.18547963

>>18547767
If you're talking about collabs between Stars JP and Holo EN then the reason those don't get pushed as often is pretty obvious due to the language barrier. If you're talking about Stars and Holo JP then that's because there's a clear difference in the western Hololive community and the Japanese Hololive community, the latter being more conservative than the former.

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They keep dropping more hints.

>> No.18548001

>>18547957
>shien straight up said no to ame collab for example.
Source on this?

>> No.18548020

>>18547957
source? i know she floated an astel apex collab early on but it was teamates who were against it

>> No.18548057

>>18547978
this one is a rrat, it was fauna's spontaneous idea for the opposite day, just coincidence.

>> No.18548182

>>18547978
Calling the male council stream #Harbinger was really the confirmation to me.

>> No.18548184

>Ina and Ame are also pushing for male collabs
Holy shit, is Gura the last stronghold for idolship in EN? This is a fucking disgrace (And yes, I know Gura collabed with a male in her past life, but that doesn't mean she'd be fine with it in her current job).

>> No.18548219

>>18547839
>mori could be a problem though i don't know how hard she would actually push the issue, i don't think she wants to get openly confrontational with any of her colleagues
She's been openly confrontational since day 1. I present Takamori. There have been many more recent examples, one that comes to mind is her backdoor invitation of Ironmouse at the end of Chadcast ep 1, which still hasn't gotten an ep 2 announcement. Hmm, wonder why. Also Bae is streaming every day this month so her schedule's full. Sorry, Mori.

>> No.18548254

they're gonna end up 3views just like the jp branch because hololive can't manage for shit and need cucks to watch their female streamers

>> No.18548269

>>18548001
>>18548020
Rrat. Ame and Shien haven't properly talked at all aside from Ame reacting to his 3D debut on Twitter.

>> No.18548283

>>18548219
i'm not saying she doesn't float the issue, just that she doesn't push it, her personality is one to avoid direct confrontation and blowing off steam as her roommate

>> No.18548322

>>18548182
I actually think it's a "harbinger" for an omega debut

>> No.18548370

>>18548219
>backdoor invitation of Ironmouse at the end of Chadcast ep 1
Fucking dick move.

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>>18548184

>> No.18548534

>>18548219
>backdoor invitation of Ironmouse at the end of Chadcast ep 1
What happened?

>> No.18548586

>>18548283
she just fought fauna not too long ago about jump king vs getting over it, the only reason theres not much direct confrontation is because people are afraid to say no to Mori, everyone knows she cant take it.

>> No.18548659

>>18548586
>jump king vs getting over it
Who won the debate?

>> No.18548661

>>18548219
Bae just confirmed a chad cast soon, and plans for once a month, unfortunately, cant wait for it to fail already.

>> No.18548718

>>18548659
theres no way to win, but in my eyes Mori got way too defensive and rude about it so she lost.

>> No.18550279

>>18542275
Toriyama designed chuuba when? imagine if he spoke Spanish too, he'd be a certified Gura killer

>> No.18552144

>>18543483
>>18551195
Do you think cucks have high enough test to bring home a salary that allows for multiple daily akas and 20 monthly memberships? No, only unicorns and idolfags have that ability. That's because cucks take whatever they're given, so they're more likely to get stuck with a lower salary. Idolchads have high standards and more disposable income. Fandeads are the prime example of this.

>> No.18555525

IT'S HAPPENING

>> No.18557152

I wish nothing but death upon retards making vtubers their latest battlefield in their stupid culture war

>> No.18558504

>>18547839
>and mumei, though the latter i think just got roped into a collab
That's the fucking point dumbass. Just like how Mumei got roped into it, the girls that you wouldn't expect to collab with males, like Gura and Ina, will get pressured by their genmates/branchmates to do so. This time they wouldn't have the "I can't speak JP" excuse, so it'd be harder to refuse, and we already know Gura is a doormat.

>> No.18559079

>>18543483
>only just started streaming with the stars in the past month
Mori has streamed with Stars multiple times dating back to shortly after her debut. I don't even watch Mori and I know that. There are two reasons Stars collabs don't happen often:
>Corporately they're a massive debuff and basically costing Hololive money because none of these people championing the Stars ever bothers to watch them
Or
>Personally, the girls or guys just aren't interested
In either case these people need to fuck off

>> No.18562259

>>18542084
go on?

>> No.18562387

>>18562259
He streamed before, and as a vtuber. Autists take his ‘I’m a demon lord from 1800 who just got invited to Nijisanji’ LARPing to literally mean he doesn’t know anything about technology or vtubers.

>> No.18564604

>>18562387
So that's just kayfabe but people were taking it seriously?

>> No.18564724

>StarsEN
Yuck. I like my streams like how I like my porn; No men!

>> No.18565018

>>18547050
It's fun

>> No.18566852

HoloEN was created to pander western cucks, so HolostarsEN will be used to pander western feminists.

>> No.18567736

>>18538865
Are you still doomposting? Get a life.

>> No.18567780

>>18538865
I'll be one of the stars and cuck you all.

>> No.18567882

>>18564724
Lesbian porn causes gender dysphoria.

>> No.18567909

Imagine if HoloEN girls would help to rope their secret boyfriends into HolostarsEN with the help of inside knowledge. All fanboys and girls cucked by both sides, all in the same company. The perfect plan. When the truth comes out, it would be the final yab of vtubing.

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>>18538865
I really really want an eagle Holostars EN member to become real so that the fans would force him to join Holobirds and make Kiara, Reine, and Subaru seethe. Of course, he would not want to annoy his senpai. But they would be forced to include him to not look like dicks.
Actually, an elf Holostars member would be WAY better. Bonus points if he was from Sweden and spoke Elfdalian.

>> No.18568905 [DELETED] 

pump

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>>18568225
>really want an eagle
the only twist is that anthro

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>>18538865
Why would they use JP Stars instead of the EN Stars we already have?

>> No.18569773

>>18548184
>Ina and Ame are also pushing for male collabs
If you told me this back when I watched EN I would have called you a schizo shitposter and an Ika

>> No.18569816

>>18569773
They are not, THOUGH.

>> No.18574183

>>18538865
it's over

>> No.18574301

>>18538865
cry harder. maybe it'll matter if you cry hard enough about it.

>> No.18577195

>>18574301
touch grass

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I don't want Holostars EN. I say this as some one who watches and enjoys luxiem. Luxiem works because Nijisanji and hololive have completely different fanbases and completely different streaming cultures.

People who use Luxiem as proof that HolostarsEN will work are being disingenuous. No one feels cucked watching pic related because 1. shipping isn't part of Niji fan culture 2. The collab dynamic is the furthest thing away from flirtatious.
Hololive fan culture has a LOT of shipping. Hololive collabs have a lot more flirting than niji. Finally >>18543483 convinces me that MOST people who ask for HolostarsEN aren't actually asking in good faith but rather doing it to #StickItToTheIncels.

>> No.18582647

>>18541967
>Vox really popped off considering how little he knew about streaming before hand.
I remember hearing that niji does streamer training or something. Could just be whatever instruction they gave him meshed with his previous experience as a content creator and made a really effective entertainer

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Gotta love Cover's knee-jerk reaction to NijiEN's success

>> No.18585697

the bigger problem is that there are no male indies that meet the standards for Cover.

>> No.18585814

>>18582423
>Nijisanji and hololive have completely different fanbases and completely different streaming cultures.
Do people seriously believe this
Go look at the amount of Hololive names in Nijisanji stream chats

>> No.18586027

>>18538865
>staff confirms it
>retard anon runs to 4chair to spit rrats about how it might be confirmed
what a good scoop you got there anon

>> No.18586096

>>18538865
When they first made the open auditions they probably had it more as a filter because luxiem had just debuted and they didn't just pull this out of their ass that fast. After how well luxiem has done though they probably are scrambling to actually look at male applications instead of just binning them and giving the "no qualified males" BS.

>> No.18586242

>>18586096
To be fair on the JP side they did the Vsinger auditions then went "No Qualified Vsingers in all of Japan lol" only to drop Gen 6 without ever doing an audition announcement.

>> No.18586351

>>18541815
Knowing Cover its gonna be half furries and half idol twinks at this rate.

>> No.18586472

>>18585697
It’s hard to tell when there are thousands. And you need not to be vtuber to have a chance.

>> No.18586521

>>18586472
>It’s hard to tell when there are thousands.
twitch partner cuts out most of the garbage. for non streamers you can use number of subs on their youtube page.

>> No.18586573

>>18539795
>Mysta
Lmao hell no. I'll drop anything having to do with vtubers if StarsEN gets a fucking faggot that gets offended by anything and is into cumswapping rp. Like hell I'd like to see any garbage like that interacting with any of the girls on stream.

>> No.18586619

>>18582423
>shipping isn't part of Niji fan culture
It actually is, not really sure how heavy it is compared to Holo's, as Hologirls tend to push the yuribait really damn hard, while Nijiships have winded down considerably since a good while, with some straight up dying, but that people ship, they ship.

>> No.18586721

>>18539488
Actually Vox and Ike are the two biggest eaners.

>> No.18587750

>>18586721
>two biggest eaners.
this is why anons keep getting everything wrong. cover doesn't care about earnings. they will gladly avoid en males as long as they can maintain their idol image.

>> No.18587758

Being honest why would any serious male chuuba prospect want to join Holo instead of Nijisanji? Even in JP it's agreed that Nijisanji is the best option for male chuubas seeking a company to join, even Roberu, iirc, agreed as such during a collab with Itou Life, Meika and Gatchman, and it doesn't look like it will be any different for the EN side.
Realistically, Nijisanji is just better for male chuubas, they already have a culture that accepts males and integrates them into the whole company with little restriction on who they want to collab with, including collabing with females, they give considerably more freedom on what kind of content and games you can do/play and their fanbase is much more open to the idea of male vtubers being in the same group as the female ones.
Meanwhile Cover is terrible at handling game permissions and green lighting projects, just by joining you have the idol label hanging over your head with all the good and bad it brings, plus the males and females are clearly separated and the greater part of the fanbase, and even the talents, expect that to always be the case, with little actual interest in changing that, not to mention that Cover has a history of fucking up male chuubas and EN management is well known for being incredibly anal about outside collabs (which would limit a StarsEN to incredible lenghts since 95% of their company ain't gonna want anything to do with them, so their options will be incredibly limited) and the overall culture around the company just isn't favorable to male chuubas and would limit them greatly.

>> No.18587828

I have zero interest in watching men or chuubas who interact with men. The addition of males completely changes the feeling and energy of the streams, and it just doesn't work for me. I dropped the whole of NijiEN once Luxiem came along and they started to collab. If they did the same with HoloEN I'll just leave the hobby.

The issue isn't about a male branch existing or not, but that if they collab with the girls it's all effectively over for me. It's the ultimate filter. I talk to and interact with men every damn day and listen to their bullshit (and they mine) at work, and I have no interest in trying to filter their presence when I just want to watch a cute girl do cute things. If Hololive can't even do that then I'll just leave. And yes, I am membered to my oshi.

What went under the radar for many of you is that once Luxiem hit the scene the audience for female NijiEN girls gradually dropped. They exist as accessories to the guys and are now secondary to them, despite the fact they did the heavy lifting and kept the branch afloat. It's sad to see but it's also not my problem. Because I dropped them. And so did others, it's just that few people actually say these things or have a place to say them. The point is that the same would happen to Hololive, and that the girls would lose a portion of the audience. The portion of the audience that actually cares and is invested in them, unlike the casuals and SJW's with their perpetual meddling into things they know nothing about.

>> No.18587927

>>18587828
>me
>me
>me
>me
this is your average incel viewerfaggot. thank god no corpo tries to pander to viewerfags from 4chan.

>> No.18588026

>>18587828
Nice copypasta

>> No.18588068

>>18587828
I raise you this, what exactly makes you think HoloEN would behave the same way with a StarsEN as NijiEN does with it's males members?
Need I point out the fact that, just counting this year and 2021, ID, with just six members, has had more members collab and more overall collabs with Holostars than EN with it's 11 members?
What makes you think a StarsEN would be any different?

>> No.18588091

>>18587927
Troll harder.

>>18588026
It isn't. I said and phrased this similarly before because there's nothing to add.

>> No.18588279

>>18588068
If I had any idea how Cover operates behind the scenes we wouldn't be having this discussion. I don't know what to expect, and that's a part of the problem, because from my perspective HoloEN keeps doing retarded, meaningless spectacles that increase fear and uncertainty over what will happen next. It's like they're simply unable to let things be, let the girls stream and don't fuck with this simple concept. I don't have any trust in Cover as a company because of this so whenever something "new" is on the horizon there's a 50/50 chance it's a disaster.

>> No.18588405

>>18587828
>I talk to and interact with men every damn day and listen to their bullshit (and they mine) at work, and I have no interest in trying to filter their presence
This is the person who calls me a cuck, a man-hating man.

>> No.18588413

>>18588279
>let things be, let the girls stream and don't fuck with this simple concept
On the bright side this is how the homos work, don't be surprised if StarsEN happens and their management and events are actually good.

>> No.18588722

>>18588405
...I'd rather be known for my hatred than for my humiliation.

>>18588413
Like I said, I'm not going to watch men in any capacity but I'm not antagonistic to them existing and being their own, separate thing. I am indifferent to their success or failure if they are separate.

>> No.18588755

>>18562259
Not OP but i can explain. For a while before the Debut ppl thought Vox was gonna be this VA called Daman Mills (He was Aogami in Shin Megami Tensei 5 i think) based on the preview voiceline and a singular Tweet.

After debut, people realized Vox wasn't Daman, but a diferent guy that had no formal VA experience and had a Vtuber PL. This idea he was an older VA with little streaming experience is just flat-out wrong

>> No.18588955

>>18588755
>and had a Vtuber PL.
according to his PL youtube, he was barely a vtuber for just over a month for a combined total of 12 streams before getting into Nijisanji. so yeah the majority of his talent was just voice over work for fan projects.

>> No.18588971

I can't wait for the day all Holos collab with males so the GFEfags can finally graduate from life.

>> No.18589292

>>18541815
Selen would apply to join Hololive in an instant

>> No.18589536

>>18588971
This. I want this to happen just to see the meltdown of schizos here. Moeshit is a mistake

>> No.18589787

>>18589536
why are you still /here/? the drama was days ago and GARshit has been dead for a decade

>> No.18589920

>>18585814
there's overlap but only among the girls, and even then only with a few of them (pomu, rosemi, to some extent selen)

>> No.18590096

If I wanted to be a corpo tuber I would apply to Niji but skip on Holo because I dont want to be stuck in a bubble and I dont want schizos like the people in this thread to kill me if it was ever found out that I was flirting with their oshi.

>> No.18590186

>>18590096
I wish you no ill will personally, but if you collabed with Ame I would be obligated to send you death threats. Just how it is, man.

>> No.18592075

>>18590186
completely understandable, opsec would be important.

>> No.18592322

>>18590096
If you try to be a male vtuber then you would deserve said death.

>> No.18593975

>>18588971
Please keep posting to remind every potential recruiter you don't actually care about Stars you just want to destroy the company

>> No.18594125

>>18548322
That's impossible because omega is Kson

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>>18544941
Did you forget that mutts are famous for projecting their ideals of "freedom", "equality" and "faggotry" to the whole world as some sort of Messiah? We must eliminate America, the true capital of Jews. LEAVE MY OSHI ALONE

>> No.18594251

>>18587828
Seriously why dont people like you make your own vtuber company? You'll probably do better than the current 2view startups

>> No.18595702

>>18588279
>let the girls stream and don't fuck with this simple concept
Did it ever occur to you that some of the girls might want to collab with guys?

>> No.18597077

>>18587750
>they will gladly avoid en males as long as they can maintain their idol image.
rumao

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18597419

>>18587828
oh hey it's you again! Thanks for providing more content for my unicope folder! You all are an absolute treasure.

>> No.18597481

>>18538865
Why did they include all of Stars at the bottom but not all of EN at the top?

>> No.18597629
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18597629

D-Do I still have a chance to make it in, bros?
I-I just got my stream setup.

>> No.18597725

>>18597629
200k youtube subs minimum with at least 2 years of experience required. any less and they won't even look at your app.

>> No.18597972

>>18597629
let me hear your voice and I'll give you an honest rating

>> No.18598094

>>18597972
No, then everyone will know I'm a /here/tuber.

>> No.18598200

>>18598094
by the time the new wave is released, no one will remember this thread, but i guess that's fair. If you really did audition, good luck! Are you thinking of appealing to any niches or do you just wanna do whatever?

>> No.18598301

>>18538865
It will be Lost Pause, Hero Hei and the 3 stooges from TT. Mark my words

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>>18598200
I will force From to give me permissions for Armored Core or else someone is going to pay.

>> No.18598729

>>18539279
NO BRITISH PEOPLE
NO MOBA PLAYERS

>> No.18599209

>>18598611
fuck yeah i love mecha games! I'd watch the shit out of that, good luck again!

>> No.18599265

>>18546615
Knowing Japanese is more of a detriment. Let JP Stars, who are mostly collab shy, deal with things themselves.

>> No.18599428

>>18550279
Have him sing cha la head cha la in Spanish.

>> No.18599648

>>18587750
>idol image
EN isn't idols. That's up to the individual talent.

>> No.18600665

>>18598301
Would be a downgrade for all five of them

>> No.18600828

>>18557152
>half of HoloStarsEN is black

>> No.18600877

>>18538865
Some slightly well known people and a couple of literal whos who had potential that were snagged shortly after they had a couple of streams. One keeps his character for the sole reason that Cover LOVED the design and overall lore.

>> No.18601005

>>18600828
>The other half are so painfully gay they talk in fag accent

>> No.18601061

>>18538865
EN girls are whores anyways
Getting a cute shota is the only way to have an oshi who is not a whore
So maybe this is good news!

>> No.18601130

>>18600828
I'd accept it if they're DBZ guys

>> No.18601279

>>18587828
Holy shit talk about being insecure

>> No.18601343

>>18601005
>Jamal-kun you are so strong and manly not like WhiteFag-kun!
>WhiteFag-kun is cute tho!

>> No.18602617

>>18538865
>existing homos get little interest from the existing western audience, totally different from the main branch
>sizeable portion of EN fans don't want the girls to collab with males
>they will be second violin to the niji faggots
>the upcoming starts gen was recived with very little enthusiasm
I don't thing it would be a good business desition to release stars EN, they would seem desperate.
But who am I kidding, is Cover, they are so retarded they will probably releae it a month after the new JP gen debuts and steal their thunder, like they use to do.

>> No.18603024

>>18602617
They'll do fine. Mogging the JP branch will be an easy task. That's really all they need to do.

>> No.18603062

>>18582423
>MOST people who ask for HolostarsEN aren't actually asking in good faith but rather doing it to #StickItToTheIncels.
that's a good thing

>> No.18603179

>>18543483
>They WILL try to fuck your oshi
be the change
become the one who fucks your oshi

>> No.18603970

EN management won't give en another loli, but will do homostars. I hate westerns so mech.

>> No.18604065

>>18602617
ESL-kun...

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