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Recently there's been some drama in the Youtube/Twitch community with react channels being called out. Moistcritikal (picrel) was one of the people called out, allegedly for watching entire videos on stream and barely adding any commentary to them. Content creators periodically speak out against react channels, claiming that react channels are lazy and 'steal views' and thus revenue from other content creators.
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How is this related to vtubers, you ask? Well, many vtubers, particularly those on Twitch, dedicate a non-zero amount of their content to reactions. Even larger vtubers like Nyanners, Ironmouse and Snuffy will spend time periodically reacting to entire youtube videos or tiktoks, adding barely any real meaningful commentary to them (example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV3BtdAI6YU).).
The question is: when will the React Vtuber Bubble burst? When will Vtubers be called out for this, just as non-vtubers have many times before them. It feels inevitable, and what will the potential fallout look like?

>> No.18527124

>>18527048
Never. Hasan bought a mansion by reacting to YouTube videos all day
Twitch must be destroyed in one big lawsuit

>> No.18527142

>>18527048
Didn't heard of that before, but based. Real-life and virtual youtubers alike. Reaction is garbage content and yes, this include the "news report" youtubers.

>> No.18527166

>>18527048
he's boring as shit anyway

>> No.18527170

>>18527048
This is one of my problems with Iron Mouse. She does a lot of fucking React content and somehow makes the content look worse.
Nyanners still adds a lot of entertainment though

>> No.18527201

>>18527048
>Reaction vids
>Twitch
How lazy can they still get?

>> No.18527205

>>18527048
reaction content isn’t content
kill all video watching channels vtuber or not.

>> No.18527223

>>18527048
I literally don't have a problem with reactors. Cr1tikal is based and always has been.

>> No.18527241

Reaction streams are the only thing less entertaining than Ark and pseudo NTR content.

>> No.18527265

>>18527048
>React Vtuber Bubble burst
That has nothing to do with Vtubers but, Twitch itself

>> No.18527282

>>18527048
I like reactions to my favorite anime or video game cutscenes, but seeing people do "react to vtuber stuff" is kind of cringe.

>> No.18527288

>another stealth e-celeb thread

>> No.18527319

Unless your a little kid getting a surprised gift and parents are filming your reaction, reacting as an adult with your onions face at the next marvel movie is cringe. It's like the most low effort video you can do to get views, other than drama videos.

>> No.18527365

>>18527288
I wonder who could be behind them!

>> No.18527369

>>18527048
Critikal's a react tuber now? I remember when he was just making short LP vids and no one knew what he looked like.

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>>18527048
and to think there are people to this day wanting my oshi to stream on twitch
i give praise she will never be a react andy

>> No.18527389

>>18527170
IronMouse>Your retard Oshi

>> No.18527445

I really don't like nor dislike React Andy's. If it isn't your thing just don't watch them. Funny thing is Japanese TV is full of those fucks reacting to stuff. How all this effects Vtubing I have no clue.

>> No.18527461

>>18527048
React vTubers will never die off because vTubers are basically surrogate friends, and friends love showing other friends shit just to see their reaction. It gets lots of views and is easy to pull off as its essentially the lowest form of content creation.

>> No.18527704

>>18527288
This is directly related to content Vtubers produce. It's relevant.

>> No.18527805

>>18527704
no it isn't

>> No.18528075

>>18527048
there will be no fallout. just as there was no fallout when non vtubers were "called out", drama over react channels has been happening for years now and nothing has happened. people will make react content as long as the internet exists because people enjoy watching videos with their parasocial friends more than just watching videos.

>> No.18528221

>>18527048
>Recently there's been some drama in the Youtube/Twitch community with react channels being called out
Didn't this happen already, circa 10 years ago?

>> No.18528321

>>18528221
It happens like once every three years.
>React channels become meta
>Content creators call out
>userbase actively avoids react channels
>React channels lose minimum viewership because its normies who watch them anyway
>New meta comes into algorithm

>> No.18528372

>>18528321
Never mind, I was thinking of reply girls (but that's basically the same thing).

>> No.18528429

>>18527445
Japanese TV is fucking awful, I don't understand how people can stomach it. 99% is reacting to something and then saying sou desu ne.

>> No.18528462
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>>18527048
The amount of parasocial relationships formed from people tuning into twitch streams of people just watching YouTube videos or “reacting” to stuff massively exceeds anything in the vtuber communities.
Chuubas may not be your girlfriends, but the guy watching masterchef and meme compilations on stream to tens of thousands of people is definitely not your friend.

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>>18527704
How badly do you fucking want an /e-celeb/ board?

>> No.18528618

>>18528462
i dont watch xqc because i want to fuck him or be his friend, you degenerate weeb, its because in some ways he is literally me

>> No.18528654

>>18527048
It won't go away.
>react channels
The epitome of mininal effort maximum results. Just turn on a camera and make sure you're not dead and you'll have ensured views.
Entire law firms should destroy these fucks because most have little to no commentary or transform the content in any capacity, but that won't happen because
>public
Somehow the public got convinced that seeing a person viewing content is a bigger entertainment form than experiencing it for yourself.
Isolation helps, and for sure react channels create the illusion of human interaction which will hook these personalityless bugs to make this a profitable industry.
It's easier to join the fray than trying to remove it so nothing will happen.
If it did though, I'd be ecstatic. Happy week ensured.

>> No.18528738

Is vshojo an actual company? Because I know some of them do a lot of that low effort react shit and if they watch the wrong video I can see the whole company being dragged through shit for it.

>> No.18528764

>>18527048
>twitch streamers are complete trash
news at 11

>> No.18528769

>>18527223
Why? He looks like the most basic normie douchebag.

>> No.18528831

>>18528618
He’s not your friend anon. You can enjoy watching YouTube videos without the fake interaction of a man who doesn’t know you exist, I believe in you

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>>18527048
>Chuubas that are Twitch thots but even lower-effort (don't even need to be even marginally attractive IRL) will be purged
I already hated reacttubers in general, titstreamers specifically, so I'm confused as to what the downside is here?

>> No.18528896

>>18527048
Twitch whores have no material besides sex appeal, vtuber avatar or not
Water is wet

>> No.18528927

>>18527389
Coppervermin = shit. No contest, any reply is cope.

>> No.18529144

There's no problem in reacting because anything is content. Is low effort? Yes. But it is content.
Asmongold was reacting to small lost ark streamers and his fans started to donate and sub to the channels.

>> No.18529171

>>18528569
If I can get a /jerma/ general then sign me the fuck up.

>> No.18529182

>person plays game
>react to such game
>wow such artistic refined content
>person watch something
>react to this thing
>lazy piece of shit stealing views from poor millionaire vtubers like ayame that work once every month
They're the same thing. If you don't like the content, don't watch. Fuck everyone that defends copyright on 4chan, I hope more people do lazy reactions just to piss these fags off.

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>>18527048
This is the kind of clash I was anticipating, the one we've all NEEDED for too long now.

Over the last decade there has been more and more emphasis on the concept of giving content creators their "money's worth", regardless of the quality of the content put in. Used to be nobody would give a shit about low effort funnies, you would contribute to be part of something, for the passion, for community spirit.
Perhaps at first it was a good idea, times were tough and the recession would have left creation to die without support. Now though? It's lulled into a wane of entitlement, where sources outweight the purpose of intent, and unwarranted self-importance reigns supreme, coalescing into the shitshow that is people trying to make NFTs of their fucking jpgs.

Finally, we have a situation where content creators are siphoning off of each other, not in a "standing on the shoulders of giants" way either, a situation where no side can justify the other's position without compromising their own material. The people will fight like dogs over credit and this new putrid phase of overgenerosity will die, no more will people be subjected to the arbitrary to the tune of graduates, weaned off of a culture of painstakingly crafted bibliographies for school credit, no more will whelps with no ambition dictate the trends by doing things for the sake of irony rather than passion.

THE PENDULUM WILL SWING AND THE INTERNET WILL HAVE STANDARDS AGAIN

I wait.

>> No.18529316

how are V tubers different than e celebs?
also a lazy guy sitting on his ass watching a video, is really that much different than a lazy guy playing a game?
neither made the original content, the only difference is that the guy playing a game may be skilled at it

>> No.18529331

>>18528738
Sort of, VShojo management deals with sponsor, merch and such, they leave the vtuber to do her number, that's why they mostly don't push their vtubers to do streams in a daily basis or forced them to even stream (Hime).


>>18527048
Recently I don't think this recent react drama actually is gonna do jack shit, I mean we had the fucking react meta shit with xQc, Poki and Toast, watching copyrigted content and that barely do anything. And mostly the people complaing about it, are people that make that content, because same as the shit with Jinx a couple of years back, react content creators take more advantage of other content creators. Even if someone accussed anyone, and everyone gets dragged into it, give it a few months and everyone will forget about it, and no one would care again until someone brings it out again.

Why has no one made a sort of extension with the same utility as watchtogether beats me.

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>>18529182
>Game streamer
>Constant commentary (otherwise they languish as 2views)
>Gameplay is still inherently content, even if you didn't hear the audio of the game
>React streamer
>Either says something once a minute cuz "don't wanna spoil the watch", or pauses the video every 5 seconds to rant for 30 before resuming

>> No.18529374

>>18527223
I can never call anyone that legitimately thinks DmC is better than DMC5 based. DmC is the one thing that red pilled me on the media gaslighting while taking a huge dump on my favorite series while basedboys paraded it around like it was the second coming. Any retard that hates 5 and but likes that game is unworthy of click and attention.

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>>18529182
>doing something is the same as watching somebody else do something

>> No.18529428

>Ctrl+F Mori
>Zero results
>Comments praising ecelebs
Is /vt/ dead?

>> No.18529463

>cr1tikal is a react streamer now
how the mighty have fallen
i remember when he said he didn't want his youtube channel to be a job because he believed money corrupted people

>> No.18529581

It ends when real entertainment comes back. Unfortunately real entertainment got banned because it upset the feelings of trannies.

So about 10-15 more years if we're lucky.

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>>18529463
he's also a pozzed basedboifag who LARPs like he's still the same absurdist comedian he used to be but shills a bunch of SJW shit, sometimes subtly and sometimes blatantly
he basically shit the bed when he started streaming, his premade videos were peak content

>> No.18529649

>>18529463
He changed his tune when he found out how much money he could make by being a lazy piece of shit.

>> No.18529744

>>18527048
Gaming is unironically react content

>> No.18529820

>>18528569
thats literally /vt/

>> No.18529899

have you heard of reaction mash ups?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPAXutROLLk
there is value here.

>> No.18529914
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here is Ironmouse reacting to Connor's marriage

>> No.18529975

>>18529363
>>Either says something once a minute cuz "don't wanna spoil the watch", or pauses the video every 5 seconds to rant for 30 before resuming
Basically what you're saying is that react streamer suck, not that it's impossible to not suck. There are reactors that let it play while they won't shut up too.

>> No.18529992

>>18527124
Hasan is a faggot who should be dead.

>> No.18530006

>>18527288
>stealth

>> No.18530041

>>18527048
To be fair charly watch a lot of different stuff and things that i would never fiund because youtube suck dick and only show you trends but most streamers just react to funny compilation n°23

>> No.18530059

If you truly think reaction content is garbage, why are you coming to /vt/? It's a board of random people reacting to vtubers.

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>>18529975
>There are reactors that let it play while they won't shut up too.
So why the fuck wouldn't I just watch the original video then?

>> No.18530110

>>18527048
Pokimane built a career just watching Youtube and eating on stream. Lmao

>> No.18530131

>>18529820
no. fuck off 3dpd lover

>> No.18530182

>>18527048
It's kind of a stretch to call those twitch girls vtubers. Yes they use an anime avatars but that's about it. They're still regular twitch streamers and will live and die with that meta, and it won't have any effect on actual vtubers.

>> No.18530186

>>18527048
React videos are literally peak friend simulator. Not "peak" in the sense of quality, but because sitting around watching lame videos with others is something you're supposed to do with friends, not strangers on the internet.

I don't really have anything to add to the topic, I just wanted to say that.

>> No.18530213

>>18530059
>Forums are the same as react videos
You must be a special kind of retard

>> No.18530290

>>18528569
It should be /incel/ for Internet Celebrities.

>> No.18530321

>>18528618
>its because in some ways he is literally me
That is arguably worse than gachikoi, and seeing yourself on fucking xqc of all people makes you even more pathetic.

>> No.18530361

>>18530092
>complain if they only say a thing once every minute
>complain if they pause to talk a lot for every 5 seconds
>complain if they just play it while talking
Wasn't your complaint about how they don't just talk normally like a let's play?

>> No.18530419

>>18528569
>no dsp
ngmi

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>>18530321
The REALLY pathetic part is not just watching a reactstreamer because "bro it's literally me", but... what, do you watch because you wanna live vicariously through them? Fantasize about not just spending your whole day watching youtube videos, but specifically having thousands of people give money to you to watch youtube videos?

>> No.18530583

>>18527288
vt is a literal e-celeb board

>> No.18530648

>>18529374
The biggest praise I can give DmC is that the level designs were good and combat was good except for the color coded enemies. The story was fanfic tier and should be disregarded entirely

>> No.18530688

>>18527288
>stealth
bro, do you not see the op image

>> No.18530689

>>18527223
Mori pls were trying to have a serious discussion.

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>>18530361
If a game streamer won't stop talking, whether it be commenting on the game or telling a story or whatever the fuck, that doesn't change the content of the gameplay. In the background, my eyes are still able to take in the gameplay even as I listen to them tell their story or make their commentary. It's the reason why the "commentary/rant over [gameplay footage]" genre became such a big thing, and to this day most ranttubers will have some recorded gameplay going on in the background.
I'm sure there are a handful of streamers who react to shit like visual illusions or something else inherently non-auditory, but the overwhelming majority of examples of reacttuber content I see are them reacting to something where the audio element is significant. Then, if we wanna go with the "pretending they're your bro/friend you're watching videos with" route, it's either as I said they won't stop pausing the video and ranting about whatever the fuck every five seconds, or they're that annoying fucking friend who repeats the joke or significant line or whatever from the narrative thing you're watching.

>> No.18530776

>>18530427
I genuinely don't understand this. I like very few react youtubers like Jontron or super early H3H3 because at least they take a video and make an entire skit based on it. React streamers don't even do that, they just put the video on stream and watch it, making minimal comment while they eat or do something else. It boggles my mind how those people can get tens of thousands of viewers when there are a fuckton of other streamers who are working their asses with gaming, music or even educational content and can barely reach 5% of that viewership. Even titty streamers are more understandable than react shit because sex sells and there's a bunch of horny teenagers on Twitch.

>> No.18530858

This is the main reason I won't watch Twitch vtubers and 2views. I fucking hate that kind of content and get so tired of seeing everyone and their mother doing it, and it happens frequently on some of the bigger twitch names in particular. It's just shit content and most of the time these woman have very little to add other than crude, shitty jokes that a 5 year old would come up with.

>> No.18530934

>>18529363
I will easily take someone pausing the video to talk about shit because at least it shows they're engaged, even if they're retarded with shit opinions its something than fucking nothing.

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>>18529374
Spread this detail whenever you see him come up, this horrendous lack of taste should be a disclaimer in case people get tricked by boredom into watching him. Thanks

>> No.18531145

>>18527048
Why does it have to be a big event when retards are called out? Every fucking channel under the sun got shit on for reacting and people were complaining but now that cool guys are doing it then apparently its a ok? No fucking wonder the npc meme exists people literally cannot think or eat without a youtube video.

>> No.18531213

>>18530962
not him, but i didn't even know about the DmC thing (though that's decidedly mouthbreathing in and of itself)
>>18529629
i had already figured out that he had dropped even the ironic edgelord shit that was so engaging in the first place and is now just a normalfag wearing the skinsuit of a based person

>> No.18531558

>>18531213
>what's up it's critical
>I'm gonna name my character sir queefmuffin let's do this
>oh I'm gonna... kick your... titties... in the urethra... LET'S GOoh he got me damn
>Anyways if you liked this video comment this video like this video
>see ya
He's literally always been shit, just say a bunch of lewd/vulgar shit (as non sequitur-ly as possible) in a deadpan voice

>> No.18531602

>>18530776
Because they already reached the top. It takes a lot of luck and hardwork to become a top streamer but once you reach the top you can coast by doing easy content like this and still make as much money as working as hard as you used to.

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>>18531558
And yet you were able to fairly accurately recreate a typical 'script' from his old premade content while criticizing him, so clearly it worked as a 'gimmick'...

>> No.18531822

>>18531677
Yeah because I thought it was funny when I was a faggy teenager, I used to also lose my shit at YTPs. Doesn't mean I can't look back at it and recognize it was boilerplate boring shit. Frankly usually the most engaging part of it was the fact that he specifically played weird bootleg or indie games.

>> No.18531854

>>18529914
I hope she doesn’t lurk here. That pic will break her heart

>> No.18531896

>>18530419
DSP is belongs in /vt/.

>> No.18531942

>>18527445
>How all this effects Vtubing I have no clue
Reread the OP.

Anyways, the reaction 'content' on Twitch is different than that of Japanese TV. Japanese TV mostly creates the content they are reacting to. The camera crews usually record things that they have their guests react to. And if they are reacting to something they themselves did not record, they of course get PERMISSION (if you think they don't, think of Hololive needing to get permissions from companies just to play games). The difference with the Twitch shit is that they all assume they have permission and watch entire youtube videos and even TV shows they obviously didn't create or didn't ask permission to watch on stream.

>> No.18532003

>>18529744
The Needy Streamer trend is 100% react content, I'm surprised that hasn't been brought up. Obviously most games require skill, but visual novels / narrativized games are just reaction content, correct

>> No.18532054

>>18531942
do you know what I'd search to find a video of that? you're describing it clearly and I've seen other people in the thread mention it, but I just can't wrap my mind around that being actual television, can't envision it

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>>18527048
>vtubers
>reacting to content of others
The only times ive ever seen my oshi react to any content, is either her reacting to her own content, content of her coworkers or memes specifically made for her. So fuck off you stupid bitch. All of the posters itt should be ashamed for not using the options field.

>> No.18532356

>>18532054
Here's an example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuaKihDiIwM

>> No.18532423

>>18532003
>VNs with mutiple routes/ending
>similar to watching an entire 10 minute video and saying nothing about it
You can also have people doing weird/silly voice acting with VNs which is much more engaging than 99% of react streamers who can't even give an opinion about the video they just watched.

>> No.18532621

>>18529744
>react content
People are usually referring to reacting to videos on stream when they say 'react content'. Sure, definitionally they are basically the same. But you know full well what people mean when they say 'react' in the context of livestreaming

>> No.18533509

>>18527223
He's an SJW cuck. In the three or four videos of his I've ever seen he was going on and on about muh racism or sexism.

>> No.18533833

>>18529428
>Comments praising ecelebs
how dare /vt/ like internet people, the audacity of those fools.

>> No.18534058

>>18529428
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHY AREN'T YOU CONSTANTLY ATTACKING CALLIOPE MOOOOOORIIIII !!!! MY PRECIOUS VEETEE!
>NIGGERMAAAAAAAAN TASUKETEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

>> No.18534128

Can we go back in time and make sure that cr1tical never stops beinga lonely depressed dude that never shows his face online?

>> No.18534180

>>18527048
Is /v/ brigading this board, or is the latest surge of normalfag eceleb drama political shit just this sub actually going to shit?

>> No.18534378

>>18527048
Streamers reacting to videos and streamers reacting to gaming are the same thing. You are there watching for their reactions. “Meaningful commentary” is a meme that something people who have too much free time getting angry at everything thought up

>> No.18534437

>>18527048
I like it when the girls ask viewers to submit their content and then react to it.
Like the viewers' rooms or viewers' fan projects.

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>>18527048
imagine being a weirdo who has never cut his hair or shaved in his life and you just sit in a chair and talk about dumb shit on the internet and make thousands of dollars
How do these people get famous

>> No.18534710

>>18529992
Ave true too CAESAR

>> No.18534898

>>18527048
>React Vtuber Bubble burst
What a waste of a thread, this bubble only exist in your mind, if the hammers falls over reaction streamers it will not matter if they are vtubers or not. especially in twitch, retard.

>>18527241
Kys wigger.

>> No.18534997

>>18527048
>The question is: when will the React Vtuber Bubble burst?
never

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>>18527048
React streamers are peak lazy and should kill themselves. Sadly zoomers are fucking retarded and don't know how to feel about things so they need their ecelebs to tell them.

>> No.18535057

>>18534591
They were there early.
That’s it.
It could’ve been you. It could’ve been me.
But it isn’t.
Because we weren’t there early.

>> No.18535086

>>18527223
Kill yourself whori

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>>18527124
>Twitch must be destroyed in one big lawsuit
Ok, but how am i supposed to watch Pikamee if twitch gets shut down?

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>People calling out vtuber reaction channels
>It's about vtubers reacting to things, not reacting to vtubers
Whew, our man Koe dodged another one. Proud of this king, hope he stays on top!

>> No.18535517

>>18527445
It is full of reaction content but in their defence the VTRs they react to are also produced by the shows themselves.

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>>18535285
What the fuck is that image. Any context for it?

>> No.18535522

>>18535285
he looks like a fat caddicarus

>> No.18536011

>>18527048
if corpos like niji or holo are allowed to get away with it, then no one would care. people are only making a big deal about it because their oshi isn't allowed to do it. guess what, reaction videos are no different than movie watchalongs and, to a lesser extent, lets plays.

>> No.18536123

>>18527048
Hololive doesn't have this problem

>> No.18536290

>>18535524
Koeficient making a review of a reaction of Koefficient reacting to Coco reacting to Koefficient reacting to Coco.

>> No.18536777

>>18536290
>this is what zoomers find entertaining
Truly a failed generation

>> No.18536861

>>18535145
Go to youtube bitch.

>> No.18537041

>>18529374
Did he play the Definitive Edition first? The only good thing about DmC 2013 was that it was well optimized on PC and could run well on shitty cards like the Radeon HD 6450. Everything else was a practically a step back from the rest of the series, especially since the PS3/360 versions were capped to 30FPS with no lock on button.

>> No.18537295
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18537295

People listen to podcast, of people just talking about anything.

Watching someone else laugh or react to content, call it lazy or not, is content. pic related is probably how most crit1kal fans when watching his streams or vids.

yes its lazy, yes you wish you could do it, but its a nothingburger and will be popular forever. drama about it from jealous bitches isnt gonna stop fans from watching it

this goes double for vtuber fans whose oshi watches tiktoks all stream.

>> No.18537400

>>18537295
I want ever single one of you fuckers that watches this dogshit to kill yourselves

>> No.18537482

>>18527048
This dumbass got triggered because thats pretty much his entire content: reacting to what other people do.
His videos got zero editing and its pretty much just him talking about whatever drama is going on, and of course he even records like 10 minutes or less so his videos get the most traction. Literal leech who thinks his commentary makes his reaction special.

>> No.18537613

>>18527170
I like Mouse but I jumped into a stream the other day and she was watching some teen sitcom on stream with video and audio. It's the laziest of content but I get why she specifically would do it.

>> No.18537648

>>18537400
youd be genocing half of youtube...

>> No.18537673

>>18535145
she knows...

>> No.18537793

>>18529629
Critical was like a more mainstream Metokur at one time.

>> No.18537847

>>18528429
へーーーーー?

>> No.18537859

>>18527048
The big complaints are

>watching somebody else's content for multiple minutes at a time without saying anything, even leaving the computer and keeping it player to entertain your audience for you

I don't think most vtubers do this. I could just be missing it since it's not really something I seek out, but most streams I've seen where they've done this kind of content, they're constantly stopping the playback to commentate. They know that the (para)social aspect is what draws most viewers in and so they need to keep the social interaction going, whereas a lot of the people getting called out here like Critikal and Hasan are treated more like philosopher-kings or content curators.

>watching someone else's content without giving credit

This seems like the bigger potential problem, though a lot of what vtubers react to is more short-form content that doesn't always have a clear original source, like gif memes that get posted in their Discords. If they're reacting to longer video content that someone actively put effort into producing and publishing, this seems like a good opportunity to make sure that they're always giving clear credit and links to the original source.

>> No.18537882

>>18537400
nta but how is that pic not the exact same basic feeling of watching vtubers, clownfucker?

>> No.18537948

>>18530110
This and wearing high waisted pants to show her ass off to 12 year olds.

>> No.18538023

>>18529363
If they're pausing for 30s every 5s to give their opinions/analysis then they are actually making original content and contributing to the discussion. It's the only type of react content that should be allowed.

>> No.18538207
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>>18527048
I just hope he doesn't make a video about rushia and shit. I like him, but sometimes his takes on stuff he doesn't know shit about infuriates me the most.

His video on why he doesn't like some aspects of anime was actually atrocious. Dude is so fucking caught up in seasonal bs he can't even bring himself not to watch shonen shit when what he wants to watch is seinen. Literally, an entire video on why he wants to see adults depicted in anime more instead of kids. What's worse is that he genuinely gives a knock on the show for this lame ass criticism. He even says, "It wouldn't effect the story if you just made them adults, so just make them older.", like it's some criticism that actually holds some value. If the age of the character matters that little, why does it matter what age they are depicted as for the need to enjoy the story? He himself implies it is entirely irrelevant for the cohesion of the plot as a whole. if you don't like it that much, just watch something else. I swear to god, sometimes normalfags can not think.

>> No.18538368
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>>18537673
She is also incredibly based

>> No.18538469

>>18538207
>"It wouldn't effect the story if you just made them adults, so just make them older."
I'm tired of seeing child prodigies in anime too. Demon Slayer is one I literally won't touch because of it, sorry.

>> No.18538477

>>18537882
>clownfucker
How could you tell I was a Polkachad?

>> No.18538573

>>18529182
Based and true

>> No.18538854

so why the hell did this thread blow up? Thought there was some big news coming but its just people creaming their jeans to react content streamers.

>> No.18538927

>>18527223
So are you playing elden ring or not?

>> No.18539377

>>18538469
That's ok, however, this criticism is entirely valueless when it comes to determiniing anime. Critikal and the vid's comment section essentially took the prevalence of shonen and teenage protags as a legitimately bad thing where anime was simply worse off because of it. This is just stupid, though. There's many shows where adults are depicted well and there's all kinds of them. Not just dramatic thriller seinen, but also slice of life. Although, this is the same crowd that knocked on Uzaki. So, I doubt if having adults would really cause them to stop complaining. I think what's more likely is that they'll complain about some other innocuous subject.

>> No.18539516

>>18528569
Yes please. And make posts that include both offtopic here.

>> No.18540226

>>18529182
Games are interactive, thus the streamer is participating in creating the content which they also react to. Games are specifically built to react to the player and give them a relatively unique experience. Video content is static and the streamer does not participate in creation, they simply react, at the same exact second other people do. Video reaction content is filth and steals views from original content creators while offering no value to the creators, especially if the entire video is watched. Game reaction content adds value to the game dev because it showcases a portion of the entire experience, thus driving sales.

>> No.18540437
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>>18527048
>vshojo is the lowest denominator among vtubers
>vshojo is coomer and simp bait
I already knew that.
React fags will end because they also react negatively to corporate products. For example the new LOTR series. I'm sure everyone will shit on it, and Amazon just can't risk a billion shekels just because a greasy retard gives it a bad rating on youtube.

>> No.18541833

>>18532356
Japanese TV is even more vapid than American tv and somehow even less entertaining.

>> No.18542099

>>18527170
She has the excuse of being crippling ill. I don't know how much she does it or if it's because of her own insecurities about not streaming enough/wanting to keep her fans or company mandates, but she's one of the very few people I'll give a pass.

Nyanners meanwhile is pretty much the exact opposite where if she's somehow this entertainment mastermind she has not a single reason to do react shit.

>> No.18542347

>>18535044
These same retards will be fighting Russians in 6 months.

>> No.18542468

>>18538368
I found it endearing how she sheepishly explained how she had never even told her mom she was into lolis.

>> No.18542673

>>18542468
>Hey mom! I'm attracted to 2d children, anime style!
>Huh? No, mom! ANIME children?
>Why are you crying!?
Even if you were insane enough to try to explain, what kind of situation would you bring that shit up in?

>> No.18542870

>>18538207
Listening to normalfags talk about anime is always grating.

>> No.18542948

>>18538023
Do people really watch react content that's not structured like this?

>> No.18543109

>>18527048
React content is exploitative of genuine content creators, and low effort content. Soon this will become recognized by the majority. See DarkViperAU's recent uploads for more information.

>> No.18543402
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18543402

>>18542673
>at dinner table with family
>your mom tells your dad some story about the neighbors kid
>you interrupt her mid sentence
>"9 year olds are the best"
>everyone goes silent and stares at you
>your mom asks what you mean by that
>"i am a pedophile, mother. What is there not to understand"
>finish your meal, stand up and leave
>put in your airpods because your mother i crying so loud
Pretty easy, you see?

>> No.18543451

>>18543109
thats why amelia watson wants to do it, the lazy bitch

>> No.18544453

>>18534378
Then isn't a zatsudan just them reacting to chat?

>> No.18545745

>>18542673
>>18543402
Hey, it was Pika that said it.

>> No.18547636

>>18527048
Mori's fault

>> No.18547741

>>18543402
I did this, and my mom just said "mood". She's such a zoomer.

>> No.18547854

Niji has an entire program that's basically react content and it's their most successful regular program.
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLout9ZF2aCT_poXC0mdy02F2E1cS5fBpC

>> No.18548018

>>18527048
>channels are lazy and 'steal views'
They may be lazy but it's a proven fact that big streamers reacting to smaller channels only funnel more views and subs toward the original content creator they wouldn't have gotten otherwise
some guy can have a wow video up with 2000 views three months after releasing it, the minute asmongold reacts to it it'll shoot up to 50k+

>> No.18549096

>>18548018
That's a fallacy based on survivorship bias. Just because some people benefit from it, doesn't mean that hundreds of others don't suffer from it.

>> No.18552507

>>18527223
>Makes fun of twitch drama whores for years while making edited youtube videos
>Goes to twitch and immediately becomes a drama whore
If I can hate Nyanners I can hate him too.

>> No.18552573

>>18534058
That's not what I meant, newfriend

>> No.18552654

>>18527223
>Cr1tikal is based
Are you underaged? How can you have that cringe of taste

>> No.18552675

>>18529171
Yeah it's down the hall to the left
>>>/lgbt/

>> No.18552792

>>18527048
That's not so much a vtuber thing as it is a Twitch streamer in general thing
And yes, it is lazy as fuck at best and stealing content without permission at worst and should be avoided if you're a streamer with any respect at all for what you do, stop watching Gordon Ramsey.

>> No.18552818

>>18535044
Wow, that's a legitimate retard.

>> No.18552832

>>18529374
wait, DmC as in the shitty reboot?
what the fuck? did anybody actually like that game? it was fucking horrible.

>> No.18552849

>>18527048
I don’t like reaction vtubers either but I also don’t Twitch adding more AI detection than it already has. We’re already getting abused enough as it is by DMCA trolls.

>> No.18553149

>>18538207
You don't get it. He has to shit out content to make money, at this point he can say anything and get views. I wouldn't be surprised if he is just rambling without putting any thought whatsoever into his videos.

>> No.18553191

>>18527048
Nimu adds a lot more content to her reaction videos because she talks a lot more during her reactions than the English-speaking VTubers do.

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