/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *


>33,655: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>26,228: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>22,674: NIJISANJI English Official (Nijisanji)
>18,112: Mumei (Hololive)
>16,429: Laplus (Hololive)
>15,919: Lamy (Hololive)
>15,444: Mito (Nijisanji)
>14,885: Patra (774 Inc.)
>14,829: Nene (Hololive)
>14,645: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>14,514: Iroha (Hololive)
>14,008: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,839: Flare (Hololive)
>12,442: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>11,925: Shiina (Nijisanji)
>11,303: Kronii (Hololive)
>11,277: Lamy (Hololive)
>10,949: Moona (Hololive)
>10,462: Chihiro (Nijisanji)
>10,280: Furen (Nijisanji)
>10,079: Amelia (Hololive)

>This one

>>18491120
>unculled Lamy with collab and Ark buff can't beat culled Mumei
kek

Is Luxiem friends with Mika IRL to collab a lot like this or are they forced to prop up ID?

>>18491120
how do mumei get so powerful

>>18489836
>>18489940
No doubt about it. Remember that this blog is the reason that the rrat of Luxiem being boosted by the Chinese came to be. Every day more and more evidence pops up that there is more too this rrat and it may in fact be true.

>>18491286
stay irrelevant councilkek

>>18491314
Nina probably convinced some of them. Not sure who all the saviorfags are in the EN branch, but Nina seems like one of them.

>>18491319
>how do mumei get

>>18491353
Gen 5 are literally whoring themselves out to Cover management to stay relevant, glad Council isn't stooping to that

>>18491455
Imagine talking about whoring when there is Mumei.

>>18491482
She's not the one fucking some boomer Cover board member for sponsorships and hologra appearances

are we responding to gen5 schizo today? are we that dead?

>>18491529
Fucking Cover management forcing Mumei to whoring herself just to join.

>>18491319
>>18491455
>>18491286
sure thing councilkeks

>>18491593
>CCV is an accurate metric
you're a joke

>>18491593
>pink dog above gozaru
what happened, this thread told me she was 4th

I did a look at board activity relative to recent post rates. The Rushia shitstorm is the biggest ever for the board narrowing Coco's graduation announcement out. The Mori drama didn't register which makes me think it was a discord psyops.

>>18491672
sub, sponsors ,merch, SC? what more do you want to get btfo councilkek?

>>18491739
Shut the fuck up, Council has the most confirmed boyfriends. Take that Gen 5.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyaViUGZ4DI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4j6ZlIVgBg
Seems like they got Kairosoft permission? Good for them but have a feeling those would be another number poison. Are EOPs even familiar with the company and their games at all?

can't tell if we're back to council schizo vs gen5 schizo or one retard larping

>>18491314
Mika leeches off of EN like crazy. Just look at her tweet replies, she legit only interacts with EN now and prides herself in being an “honorary” EN. She’s inclining though so its working ig

>>18491902
Leeching to the top, like a true entertainment whore.

>>18491589
Eslchama...

>>18491589
Go back to your containment thread, nigger.

>>18491947
She doesn’t even try to help the ID branch with her recent fame, she’s completely abandoned them. She’s really a true entertainment whore

>>18492117
Indog women whoring themselves to Western chad is nothing new. Indog men only have themselves to blame for taking it and being cucked

I see a pattern here for Hololive when it comes to the popularity of each gens

HoloJP - Every gen divisible by 3 is the most popular one evident from sankisei and HoloX. Gen 0 is also 50% popular with Sora being the originator. Technically, all their gens produce at least one popular member, but sankisei and HoloX is on another level.

HoloID - Every Even numbered gen will be their most popular gens. One member will be the star while the other suffers a curse to be anya-petra tier - Holoro. ID 3 will become like ID1, mark my words.

HoloEN - Myth was their star legacy since they became popular from the get-go. If EN3 is the next gen with two popular members, then for every odd number, EN will have new stars to take Myth's place.

The real box push from ID and EN isn't seen yet, so Hololive is biding their time while Nijisanji continues to recline with shitty talents.

>>18491593
Iofi....

>>18492358
>the most popular
That's an extremely generic term, you have specify the criteria under which you define what "popular" is.

EN Gold so far for February

1. Gura (Hololive) - 14,594
2. Amelia (Hololive) - 16,124
3. Baelz (Hololive) - 13,090
4. Gura (Hololive) - 15,901
5. Gura (Hololive) - 21,737
6. Gura (Hololive) - 15,900
7. Baelz (Hololive) - 9,914
8. Mumei (Hololive) - 15,409
9. Vox (Nijisanji) - 14,841
10. Mori (Hololive) - 21,458
11. Kronii (Hololive) - 11,342
12. Baelz (Hololive) - 12,112
13. Ike (Nijisanji) - 11,391
14. IRyS (Hololive) - 15,466
15. Nijisanji English Official (Nijisanji) - 22,662

Hololive - 12
Nijisanji - 3
Others - 0

>>18492475
kys

>>18492358
Seems like JP will be handling EN recruitment from now on, both talents and managements. Having an open audition will help them filter the applicants much more efficiently.

>>18492605
Given how badly JP has handled EN games permissions that is not a good thing.

/#/ - fanfiction general

/#/ is declining.

>>18492786
hey man

>>18492665
Game permission is a meme. If certain games are blocking you off from being productive, then you have hit your ceiling.

>>18483998
JP's powerwash permissions are sourced through square enix, which for some reason only granted blanket permissions to the JP side. If I'm being charitable they probably didn't contact powerwash devs directly and only got perms through square enix, so that didn't apply to the EN talents until they got contacted on twitter.

>>18491902
Not to pit them against each other but it's kinda funny if you see how the one with English-speaking dad and probably an English-speaker from birth (is she?) that is Hana refused to be called honorary EN and take pride in being part of ID.

>>18492840
Better to get ahold of games that the vtubers want to play and are enthusiastic about rather than ones that makes them apathetic and give them a trend in dropping. While Minecraft has no end and brings in viewers, I cannot imagine continually play it week after week after week.

>>18492871
Square Enix is the publisher here, it made sense to contact the publisher rather than the developer since they are the one who handle the distribution.

So what fujo baiting streams are gonna beat Gura today?

>>18493110
>VOX
>My throat hurts so instead of sucking cock I'm going to get fucked in the ass by niggers
25k minimum

>>18492871
Honestly what worries me more out of this whole fiasco is that it feels like Gura is determining what she can play based off what the jps have streamed, like they don't even bother maintaining a list of streamable games that everyone can access

>>18493224
Or Gura doesn't even bother to double check first.

>>18492871
EN could obtain elden ring permissions if they contact bamco's american HQ

>>18493169
forgot the pog

>>18493169
Is it on a deserted island though?

>>18493224
>Gura tries
>List of unfinished games that she starts but refuses to at least try to finish because "she's not feeling it" often leaving it literally short of ending.
>List of unfinished projects that she starts by herself or with other people and never go back to it after 1-2 streams because she is too lazy to farm material or do research planning.
>List of meme videos ideas that she refuse to ask permission to make because she is too lazy and cope by saying it takes too long
>Reflect MV takes ages to release because muh timing autism and who knows how many songs she refuses to release covers of because she refuse to put together a team to do the work required by herself with the only exception being Reflect. Look at how many collab covers she has.
>Before even asking to post meme tweets, how about actually putting in effort to update and shill your stuff on your twitter instead of low effort mandated/obligatory retweets.

The thing that annoys me about Gura is that she could be so much bigger if she actually put in more effort. She wastes a lot of potential and stills mogs everyone else. Imagine how it would be if she actually cared about being big.

>>18493278
Isn't that what happened with Dark souls permissions and that got lost because the japanese side isn't playing ball?

>>18493332
>>18493337
>ₕᵤhaʰᵃ~

>>18493224
Considering they didn't even tell the ENs that pokemon BDSP perms were going to expire and they had to learn it from listening to Fubuki talk about it on stream, I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't even bother giving everyone a list of streamable games.

>>18493271
You shouldn't need to double check, Cover should be sending out a Monthly bulletin to all of their talents that goes something like
>permissions for any new games we've gotten this month
>list of games you're allowed to play, along with any expiry dates you need to be aware off
>List of big events happening this month that you might want to prepare for
There should never be confusion on what games you can and can't stream

Roses are blue
Violets are grey
Number is gay
And so are (you)

POst nig

>>18493598
nig#2

>>18493346
Not sure about the specifics, it may have been on cover's part

>>18493617
It's almost definitely cover going "Nobody is streaming anything until all parties sign off on it, and since that includes fromsoft nobody is streaming it."

>>18492871
>JP's powerwash permissions are sourced through square enix, which for some reason only granted blanket permissions to the JP side.
There girl is on the jp branch so it make sense, gura should ask pekora to gave her the permissions.

>be run by retarded nip boomer management
>can't play the games you want to play
>be held back in almost all aspects so hard that it's almost criminal
>still mog your rivals every day in all numbers
Imagine if HoloEN didn't have to deal with stupid nips and were independent, god they could be the biggest streaming group in the world

>>18493556
https://twitter.com/kei_nagao2434/status/1484125129508814848
It's not just Cover.

>>18493332
It's kinda sad you keep copy pasting this

>>18493649
Understandable since they want to avoid another Holocaust

>>18493821
They'd never be this big if they were indies from the start
But yes they would massively benefit from going indie, becoming a loose group amongst themselves, and moving to twitch. Remove the cover debuff and the cull debuff

>>18493933
How long are you going to use that excuse when the problem right now is EN not getting to play the Western games that they want which has nothing to do with stupid ass japanese game devs striking japanese streamers because Japanese countries are the only countries in the world retarded enough to think streaming a game is illegal

>>18493933
Its called overreacting.
Chinkout scared the shit out of Cover.

guess we have a perms schizo now

>>18493968
VShojo climbed up from nothing, it's not impossible. Hopefully Myth decide not to continue their contract next year and walk out the door, they'd earn way more and be happier while not having to give any cents to shithole management

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6LWLQjgynE
>740k in it's first week
Is it a flop? Seems low, we've seen the power of this song that even Laplus is getting 10 million from it.

>>18494137
yeah you'd like that wouldn't you nijizhang?

>>18494169
>wanting the best for holoEN means you're a nijinigger
retard

>>18493996
Go ask pewdiepie

>>18494206
>a single incident is proof of anything
>meanwhile tons of independent streamers stream whatever they want on Twitch all the time without getting sued

>>18494202
>How do you do fellow Holochads, I think what's best for HoloEN is if they all graduated at once, wouldn't you fellow holochads agree?
Fuck off Nijizhang, find a better cover

>>18494153
Another underperformed song that has Kanata in it.

>>18494257
>criticizing Cover's inept management and pointing out that HoloEN would be doing much better if they went indie means you support nijifaggotry
fuck off shill

/#/ is just a thread where people mostly replying to each other...

Game perms are way overrated. Hololive top performing events have always been about the girls (debuts, outfit reveals, 3D), not about the games.

>>18494301
Wishing HoloEN to graduate means you are a nijizhang, yes.

>>18494301
Dress it up however you want, you're still wishing for HoloEN to graduate and yes that does mean you're a nijizhang.

>>18494324
If the girls are unhappy over not being able to stream the games they like they'll eventually quit, management not giving them what they want over some nip autism about needing handwritten faxed letters is just retarded

>look at Lulu
>look at Gibara
>look at Coco
Yeah going indie is better

>>18494383
>>18494422
>numbers thread
>too afraid to admit that holoEN would get even bigger numbers after they graduate and don't have management holding them back
Dumb tribalfags

>>18494301
You talk a lot about VShoujo being indie, but do you actually follow and watch them?
You would have known that Vshoujo also has their own management team. And leaving most things to the stage performers will increase the controversy occurrence. How's that TTS been doing after his meltdown? How's the british girl been doing after she talk shit on a smaller performer?

>>18494505
Yeah because Lulu, Coco, and Gibara all got bigger numbers after going indie
Oh wait

>>18494324
>Hololive top performing events
It's not about the peaks of the big events, it's about the daily numbers and variety of content.
No one thinks that a Konami game will get 50k CCV, but it's good to have a mixture of content so it doesn't get stale.

Most girls (HoloEN in particular) are allergic to doing streams outside of game/karaoke/SC reading so game perms are quite important.

>>18494137
Vshojo has a business address. They are not indie. VOMS is indie, VShojo is not.

>>18494505
>No I'm not a nijizhang, I'm just hoping for HoloEN to graduate for their own good
Nice try nijizhang, now pull the other one, it plays judas priest

>>18494536
Their management team is hands off and still managed to turn ironmouse into the most successful female streamer in the world, meanwhile Cover management only managed to strangle their golden goose that is Gura with lack of permissions for everything she wants to do or play
>>18494539
>comparing a bunch of has-been facecam streamers to holo fucking Myth
Not even in the same league

so are we just fucking lying now

>>18494624
Classic nijizhang tactic

>>18494539
You do realize Coco mogs Holos and Nijis right

5 Ksons would be funny to look at.

>>18494137
Meds

>>18494253
...
twitch literally had reaction content drama recently
and the song permissions drama before that

>>18494610
You do realize Myth were 2views before Holo right?

>>18494644
She does not get bigger numbers after leaving hololive, no.

>>18494610
Yellow bat soup stained fingers wrote this post

>>18494610
> Doesn't watch VShojo
> Talk on their behalf anyway
What a nijinigger behavior.

>>18494667
Drama that ended up being a nothingburger, no one got permabanned over it. There's nothing to be afraid of, Cover are just pussies who are too retarded to realize that Western devs don't give a shit about who streams their games and in fact welcome it.

>>18494587
Pretty sure that Konami would a huge buff for some Holos.

>>18494610
Yes everyone should do subathon.
>>18494654
Put Donald and Goofy for variation.

>>18494721
Imagine being this retarded.

>>18494684
Their views pre-holo are irrelevant, Myth as a whole breaking away from hololive would be big news and secure a huge independent fanbase of their own.

Time to consult my local witch and make Myth graduate next month.

>>18494884
yeah you'd like that wouldn't you nijizhang?

>if only holo imploded on itself they'd win
why is he like this

>>18494977
Myth would still mog nijis even as indies so not sure why you're so mad

>>18494979
He wants to see a spectacle just like typical dramafags

>>18495009
room temperature iq

>>18494979
Because he's a nijizhang trying to sell HoloEN graduating as a good thing that all holofans should support.

Is there an alternative to "vmoveie.com" where you can sort by daily growth and filter by company for MV's.

>>18495063
Why do you support HoloEN being caged and suffering under incompetent management?

>>18495039
meant for >>18494979
but it also applies

>>18494721
> Nothingburger
> When it's enough to enforce streamers to change their contents
https://www.ginx.tv/en/twitch/justaminx-permaban-next-stream-mishap
> Even permabanned
https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/twitch-denies-jidions-permanent-ban-appeal-after-pokimane-hate-raid-1744268/
https://dotesports.com/streaming/news/the-biggest-twitch-streamer-bans-of-all-time
Non-stop lies from a nijinigger.

>>18494505
Meds. Gura will literally kill herself if you tell her to stop being Gura and goes back to her indie day. She outright called her year in Hololive the best year in her life, especially in comparison to how she was during the last days of her PL.
Mori will lose her employment pass if she quit Hololive and will have to go back to teaching English, being a waitress, or go back to murrica. Her music career will go poof as well.
But yeah, sure, it's for their good that they should graduate. Smart move, zhang

>>18495086
Why do you keep lying? No one is buying your fud.

>>18495097
>bans that have nothing to do with copyright strikes or lawsuits from IP holders
You are literally retarded and can't read

>>18495097
NTA, but how are your examples close to whatever Cover experienced with game perms drama?
>JustaMinx has not had a great start to her year after being at the centre of controversy for hosting a "sexual" hot tub stream involving strippers last month
>On 7th February, Minx received her second ban after using a "derogatory slur" during her live stream.

Jidion got permabanned because he went on to harrass Pokimane on twitter, instagram and tiktok, which showed that he had no remorse for his suspension.

>>18495106
>Her music career will go poof as well
I'm guessing you didn't see the latest upload on her roommates channel.

>>18495212
>>18495212

>meanwhile tons of independent streamers stream whatever they want on Twitch all the time without getting sued

>Post counter proof
> Re-retard!

>>18495278
>counter proof has nothing to do with getting sued over permissions
Actually retarded

HoloENs must've been fine if they can do long ass zatsus without opening SCs

>>18495309
They already lost their permissions from streaming their contents on that platform, retard.

>>18495309
https://screenrant.com/disguised-toast-twitch-ban-streamer-dmca-copyright-strike/
https://screenrant.com/pokimane-twitch-ban-streamer-dmca-copyright-strike-days/
https://viebly.com/banned-twitch-streamers/
>code Miko banned without reason given
>xQc banned for (probably) permission shit
wow such a great platform. it dosen't even tell you WHY your channel got shitcanned

>>18495278
to play devil's advocate here. those bans weren't game-related but reacting to full-length shows and the permabans were related to either "hate mobs" or scams.
the only twitch ban which i know of that seems stupid is the Dr disrespect ban

>>18495106
>Gura is the happiest she's ever been
>just talked about how frustrating it was not being able to play games like Power Wash because Cover is retarded with permissions
Okay

I want to see numbers

>>18495587
no

>>18495543
Do your rep.
She's much better now.

>>18495481
I'm not even the anon calling you a retard, but these are hilariously badly chosen examples.
>https://screenrant.com/disguised-toast-twitch-ban-streamer-dmca-copyright-strike/
This article is old. He DMCA-ed himself through Lilypichu because no one did and he was going on a 1 month break.
https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/disguised-toast-reveals-dmca-strike-orchestrated

>https://screenrant.com/pokimane-twitch-ban-streamer-dmca-copyright-strike-days/
She got banned for 2 fucking days for streaming TLAB for 7 hours. Proceeded to have a meme return stream like nothing ever happened.

>xQc banned for (probably) permission shit
Nice (probably). xQc must've been really scared of getting banned when he streamed torrented HxH eps from his Plex server the day after Pokimane got suspended.
https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/xqc-refuses-to-stop-watching-shows-on-twitch-1740348/

Got any actual examples of HOLOcaust-esque ban events happening on Twitch?
Because even Hasan's Masterchef DMCA ban ended up being a fake report and he didn't get banned.

>>18495481
https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/disguised-toast-reveals-dmca-strike-orchestrated
>"Like I wanted to be striked so bad I asked my roommate to DMCA strike me.. legally of course. I played Lily's song, 'Last Cup of Coffee,' on the day I asked her to DMCA strike me because I didn't want her to file a false DMCA claim. Because, false DMCA is by the way, illegal, and that's what happened to (HasanAbi)."
>not even a DMCA strike from the rights holders of anime shit
>self-planned strike from a friend using that friend's IP

>>18495699
Do twitch streamers get to keep their VOD on twitch without getting DMCA'd?

>>18495543
Somehow it's like someone works in an office where everything is great, has a great relationship with work colleagues, and has great pay but he quits his jobs because they don't have coffee in their office

>>18495770
Obviously not, they rarely keep VODs and those that do, just post their VODs on youtube for archival purposes. Some of them do have VODs up tho like IronMouse and Veibae I think.

Twitch is very much "livestream" and they hire editors to make clips of the highlights and post them on their youtube channel.
https://www.youtube.com/c/xQcOW/videos

>>18495543
Anon... not everyone ropes themselves because of beeps and boops

>>18492117
To be fair, most of NijiID rather just do solo streams or collab with each other while never branching out to other ID corps/indies, they don't have the extrovert behavior NijiEN has. Sure Mika's a leech, but NijiID's failings are theirs alone and Hana can only do so much for them.

>>18495699
The correct events to reference would be the music-related ones that caused VODs across the site to be deleted on response. In that instance, companies just collected evidence and bided their time to drop it all at once on Twitch instead of play whack-a-mole with single-instance issues.
Of course, Twitch did manage to hash on an agreement of sort, but not before a lot of clips and VODs that WERE saved by streamers got wiped out.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/video-games/2021/09/21/twitch-nmpa-streamers-licensed-music/
Of course, everyone likes to pretend this never happened and that such a thing 'could totally never happen again' even though the precedent is there, and you know companies and their lawyers are always weighing the costs in public opinion vs enforcing their rights.

being earlier than her usual streams and guerilla debuffed it a bit it seems but Nene is still on her way to 10k
anything interesting happening on Nijis side?

>>18495426
Of course they're doing fine. That's why Fauna, who has the least superchat (last I checked) of Council was still able to buy a $10,000 ASMR microphone.

>>18495809
>>18495915
Games are the most important tool they have for streaming, if they aren't being given the tools they want they're being crippled. Pretending it doesn't matter is disingenuous

>>18495849
Despite /#/ talks about CCV, VOD and sub have been the bread an butter for all pitch decks.
Moving to Twitch will nerf these denominators.

>>18495915
He isn't talking about suicide. He's talking about apathy streaming, burn out, and possibly just vanishing.

>>18495962
It isn't just games, but you can see it with Mumei and not having history streams green lit.
>Oh boy I can't wait to do all of these interests
>No you can't

>>18495972
ah yes Gura, known for her stable schedule

>>18495543
>Gura tries
>List of unfinished games that she starts but refuses to at least try to finish because "she's not feeling it" often leaving it literally short of ending.
>List of unfinished projects that she starts by herself or with other people and never go back to it after 1-2 streams because she is too lazy to farm material or do research planning.
>List of meme videos ideas that she refuse to ask permission to make because she is too lazy and cope by saying it takes too long
>Reflect MV takes ages to release because muh timing autism and who knows how many songs she refuses to release covers of because she refuse to put together a team to do the work required by herself with the only exception being Reflect. Look at how many collab covers she has.
>Before even asking to post meme tweets, how about actually putting in effort to update and shill your stuff on your twitter instead of low effort mandated/obligatory retweets.

I hope HoloEN suffers their own Holocaust so you all will shut the fuck up about it

>>18495962
> Games are the most important tool they have for streaming
No, they are not.
They make more money interacting with the chat.
They get better numbers when they sing and collab.
Games are overrated. If they need to pass time, they can always make their own games with ms paint, drawing tic-tac-toc.
Even their fans make games for them.

>>18495940
Yeah I remember this being a HUGE deal at the time.
There were pentabytes worth of VODs being deleted because no one wanted to be DMCA striked.

>everyone likes to pretend this never happened and that such a thing 'could totally never happen again' even though the precedent is there
Honestly, after the whole masterchef/anime watch party arc, I don't think it's happening.
Everyone outside of Twitch wanted these streamers to get smacked but no megacorp did anything.

>>18495969
>Moving to Twitch will nerf these denominators.
Holos are never moving to twitch full time anyways and anyone who suggests they should just because of CCV cull is a retard.
They've built an empire on youtube and there's no reason to restart on a different platform.
Doesn't change that Twitch doesn't ban you for streaming DMCA content as long as you don't archive the stream.

>>18496041
She doesn't have a stable schedule precisely because management has failed to give her a good streaming environment where she can stream what she loves, genius.

>>18496050
you just posted that this thread

>>18496023
kek, thanks based management.
I can only imagine a girl in her twenties with no professional background covering (for instance) the late 19th century / early 20th century of the east Asian countries.
>then, Japan invaded Manchur-
>jazz music stops

>>18496041
You know saying that just supports disinterest with streaming in their environment due to how stable their schedule is.

VRChat really improved over the years with upgraded motion tracking. Feels me with hope that Ame has a lot in store for viewers in VRChat after they've gotten their 3D debuts. I just want them to do shorts like this,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o53zLE7MxwM

Kinda numbers-related, but Gura and Mumei last played Ark 3 weeks ago and no one in HoloEN has shown any inclination of playing it since.

Looks like we're not getting a HoloJP x HoloEN Ark arc this time.

>>18496207
>3 weeks ago
Fuck it was that long already? We're in mid-february now, shit.

>>18496075
I reckon that most companies looked at it, has their legal departments check and then they had to choose
1. Get into a PR nightmare by going alone
2. Work with other companies to do what the music industry did and hit a bunch of people all at once and give Twitch an ultimatum
3. Do nothing because it's not worth the trouble, unless the streamers continue to do so and/or get more brazen
1 is probably not happening due to PR hits being bad for business unless they can be justified in bringing significant amounts of revenue, we'd never hear about 2 until the hammer gets dropped, and 3 is most likely because while there is potentially some money to be made in forcing things on Twitch, they are, in the grand scale of things, not as big of a website as YouTube is. The amount of users and data served by Youtube in a day completely dwarfs Twitch, and so does the money involved.

>>18496207
>last dmc4 stream 2 months ago
filtered by Dante

>>18496207
EN doesn't have an ARK autist to pull in the box.
EN used to have a MC autist, but her viewers harassed her from playing it.

>>18496355
>harassed her from playing it.
OFF STREAM, they wanted her to play on stream.

Current Top 50, rest of tables at >>18467079

One thing that caught me by surprise
>Nene, Botan and Lamy all over 10k median
>Nene over 13k median, slightly ahead of Botan and leading the gen 5

Was Nene always this strong? I genuinely don’t remember but I don’t remember the other way around either, What is she doing differently to incline this hard in a period there is no “meta” like Minecraft to create a shared arc?

>>18496682
>gen 5 can't even get into the top 10
I thought people said they were inclining?

>>18496682
Nijikiller… I KNEEL

>>18493224
They have one, either kiara or ame have mentioned it before but no idea if it's maintained and gura probably doesn't look at it.

>>18496446
There is probably a reason to why she did it off stream. She probably just wanted to chill with autism blocks and not worry about trying to entertain or commentate everything. If she just streamed then people would bitch about her not talking.

>>18496682
>What is she doing differently to incline this hard in a period there is no “meta” like Minecraft to create a shared arc?
Look at her right now.
Ark spam and Yakuza in dead hours like now are easy 10ks for her.
Most of Lamy and Nene's 10k+ have been from Ark for the past month.
She's also had a couple of single-POV Apex collabs that did very well.

I also wouldn't agree with there being no meta. The meta right now for Holos is clearly still Ark, but the ceiling isn't that high.

On another note, FUCK. Irys just said her next stream is Operation Tango again with Reine.
Her median this month is actually going to be terrible.

>>18496682
>Was Nene always this strong?
She's been avoiding JP prime time like the coof because she knows she's no Baelz and would get slaughtered in that slot.

is hearthstone a good game to stream? I remember it being very popular in old twitch days. it's slow enough to let streamers interact with chat, rng to get reactions from both streamers and chat, and it has gacha elements.

>>18496846
Baelz do have a shit ccv so yeah , nene aint no failure

>>18491120
Mysta strong
Holobronie meltdown

>>18496891
>culled vs unculled

>>18496889
https://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/Hearthstone?sort=VIEWER_COUNT
>Highest stream: 5.7k
TFT would get better numbers.

>>18496682
>Was Nene always this strong?
nope. she started inclining around new year of 2020 and kept going slow and steady (heh). around her debut it was fairly clear that she barely played any games before so it was like watching your little sister slowly get better with your help. this arc endeared her to me and a lot of her original fanbase
> What is she doing differently to incline this hard in a period there is no “meta” like Minecraft to create a shared arc?
part of Negi-U , amazing Christmass live, break and return after holox debut followed by her netting some of the tourists for herself. vc in a game, vc in a anime thus having large outreach to fanbases that might not know her

>>18496913
Baelz do have a shit SC so yeah, nene aint a failure

>>18494721
The music copyright drama caused the deletion of all vods by almost every streamer on the platform.

>>18496795
>She probably just wanted to chill with autism blocks and not worry about trying to entertain or commentate everything
That’s the exact reason she was given grief: she’s a professional entertainer who claimed she couldn’t do long streams because her tummy hurts if she goes too long or something similar.
And yet she was going for a long time doing the most entertaining activity possible for her audience, off stream, for her personal amusement, while giving them shit games on stream.
Of course her audience would be frustrated.

The “I didn’t want to have to talk to the audience while playing” is a retarded excuse for two reasons
>Other girls, on occasion, just do their thing on Minecraft without talking much to the audience. See: Moona when she is autism-building
>It’s her fucking job to talk to the audience, she couldn’t possibly be burned out one month in

>>18496980
>amazing Christmass live
>couldn't even hit 70k
>would've been an easy 100k if you kicked out Nene and replaced her with Mori

>>18496913
EN is not culled anymore dumbass

>>18496819
>The meta right now for Holos is clearly still Ark, but the ceiling isn't that high.
Ark is being playing by lots of girls but there is no “shared arc” meta so far. The odd collab here and there but nothing to the level of Minecraft or the initial arc meta feat. Coco

>>18496985
>more people know Baelz and buy her merch in the rest of the world compared to Nene who's only mildly popular in a single country

>>18497020
>literal copy-paste bait
you are a whore and you suck me good trough my jorts

>>18496682
>GEN 5 schizo in shambles

>>18496682
Toko is the weakest Sanbaka huh

>>18497145
The fact she’s in the top 50 is remarkable, her stream frequency is low enough for her to be below the cutting point most of the time, no?

She seems to be streaming more often now, end of idol reps?

>>18496682
HoloEN stable except gura (reclining)
NijiEN inclining

>>18497178
She's not in the top 50 and for Toko, idol reps never end. She's a part-time streamer for a year now.

>they counted the Emperor for dead
APOLOGIZE!

>KNEEL BEFORE YOUR EMPEROR!

So how long till ENstars?
Loserbait is raging hard

>>18496889
Dead game that nobody cares about anymore

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgBXRUsqjsc
>1 hr stream
>18k peak
>257k VOD views after 7 hours
I said before that this might be her first 300k slip in a while since it's so short, but I was wrong.
300k views for a 1 hr, sub-20k game VOD lmao.

>Nene alone is beating the sum of the rest of the JP field
K-Kneel?

(Gen5 schizo, don’t look!)

>>18497178
She is not in the top 50. She is supposed to be in the cancelled Niji's concert and last week she had 3D VR event with Kanzaki. She doesn't stream that much ever since Suisei's sololive.

>>18497232
I wonder how much of a buff he will get from his apex skin.

>>18497232
Well, APEX meta is back. Every APEX vtubers will incline

>>18497359
>>18497229
I just checked the full rank, she doesn’t seem to be there at all. Failed to make the cut, doesn’t have 3 streams yet this month?

>>18497347
>Izuru
if it weren't for the cull that'd be a 5k stream

>>18496682
GO SUISEI

>>18497421
Cope

>>18497421
kek, this is becoming one of the funniest ritual posts of this thread

RatGirl fans surely are eating well this month, and her numbers are improving.

Who would have guessed that if you stream often, interesting stuff and in a slot your audience is available that your numbers could skyrocket?

>>18497347
>relying on Ark buff
Come back when she can do it with any random game

>>18497377
is this the power of Olympus?

>>18497339
His Minecraft numbers are always huge

>>18497574
Admit that she’s inclining
>ADMIT IT!

What can Nene do that would make you kneel in admission of her incline?

>>18497250
So that's how Aqua crew looks like IRL

>>18497635
How about not having half of Mori's subs despite having a one month headstart.

>>18497700
https://files.catbox.moe/iufg13.webm
Nah it's Ame's fuckbuddy

>>18497729
he's asking you to recognize an incline, not to compare her to others you dummy

>>18497507
I was skeptical at first, but Bae might actually incline after FeBAEuary.
Constant streams and many dead schedules from other HoloENs means people are checking her out again after debut and personally, she's been more endearing.
The impressive thing about her RE8 playthrough so far is the retention has been very good (Fauna's RE7 and Irys's RE8 dropped more in latter eps).
>13k
>10k
>13k

It does still seem like Bae gets wrecked in overlaps for her other streams, but that's more of a NA live viewership shrinking problem.

Numberrot but neither https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qls96eA-n6Y nor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6LWLQjgynE performs as well as I expected.

>>18497796
If she really were inclining she'd be catching up in subs to a group everyone claims is reclining.

>>18497821
overall a lot of covers released in the last week or so did kinda bad

>>18491593
Laplus confirmed better UOH than Gura

>shibuhal skin for wraith

lmao

>>18497864
in the last 30 days she's gotten more subs than ina, kiara or amelia, yes

>>18497729
>>18497864
Prove you’re not a mindless hater, say 3 things you give credit about gen 5

I’ll start
>they’re hard workers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ_eazT56FA
Hologram Circus hit 3 million views.

Pretty good for a non-Susei/Mori orison.

>>18497339
To be fair, 1 hour is a fair bit more digestable than many other streams, but it's still pretty funny to see how many people even check the thing out after she finished.

https://twitter.com/sakamatachloe/status/1493712720406855680
2 weeks later and it still hasn't broke 1 million. I underestimated how much of a flop it is. Almost feel bad for her now.

Does sub-count correlates with how many times they get sponsorship? If that's a yes then maybe this sorting feature does have a contribution.

>>18492475
IRyS with a gold
The world isn't such a bad place after all, for so many people to be able to get past their preconceptions around her model

>>18498170
For comparison I think I know why mid to low tier holos still get sponsorships, since they are still pushing Sora and not exactly holos with the most sub count for PR document

>>18497810
Irys's RE8 is low as hell, even when the game is played to death it shouldn't be that a debuff for her. I can see Bae getting good views on horror games because she is really suck at it and people loves her being suck at it, having company also helps the retention.

>>18498237
Extremely low tier Nijisanji streamers will get sponsorships. I think Fumi had like 3 last year. I think it has to do with the inroads Anycolor makes for thier EN branch and the sponsorships will come with time. These contracts are signed months ahead of time.

>>18497821
there were like six covers released on valentines day. Release fatigue is a real thing

>>18498386
a lot of people on this thread think covers exist like in a vacuum or something

>>18498307
IRyS played it on Easy, so a lot of the tension in the game was lost. Her graph for the game also looks really fucking weird and it took her 7 minutes to recover her waiting room for the finale, probably on account of starting late + overlapping with Mori Jump King.

>>18498092
over a year to 3M doesn't seems that impressive. Is there so few orisong over 3M ?

>>18498466
A lot actually

>>18498021
Read the archives, there has been sub growth culling going on for the last month
>>18498466
It's not impressive at all unless your only benchmark of success is gen 5

>>18498529
yes, and it only affected myth and no one else

>>18498125
850k at 2 weeks is still good
Watame's My Song had way way more effort and soul put into it and took 2 weeks to hit 1 million

>>18498558
Wrong. It's clearly affecting everyone, myth is just naturally reclining alongside it.

>>18491057
OooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooo he's a vampire wearing a tracksuit oooooooooooooooo!

>>18498584
don't bother anon, that guy has literally done nothing but shit on chloe for 2 weeks and he's been given plenty of obvious reasons why it's performing the way it does and he just ignores it

>>18498615
Isn't it pretty slow for a somewhat big chuuba, though ? Everyone is calling Ame and Kiara new cover a flop and it still reached half a million in 2 and half a day

>>18496207
all of En is busy at the moment.
Ame is looking for a enw house.
Sana, fauna and other council are working ontheir aniverasry
Kiara just came abck from a week break
Ina has a lot pf priests duties.
Mori also is a workaholic both for her hololive and non hololive work.
And who fucking knows what they are doing for holofest and holoexpo.
it fucking sucks the last big collab i think it was the council collab or the terraria one. March better be different.

>>18498665
>Isn't it pretty slow for a somewhat big chuuba
There's like 6 Holo Animal covers already and MiComet's basically took the attention away from all the others, as Suisei's covers usually do.
Doesn't help that Chloe's is pretty average.
>Everyone is calling Ame and Kiara new cover a flop
It's literally 1 fucktard. Kiara's cover is doing very very well.

>>18498665
These two have over twice the subscribers compared to chloe. Basicaly everything they do is a flop compared to the average holo.

>>18498665
no, it was expected considering the circumstances surrounding it, she released the 9th version of a fotm after everyone else did, and after 3 of those had 1m already, without any promotion, using her burikko act voice instead of her serious singing voice, and way after her debut buff could carry it
going "but it's her first one" is just dumb considering everything else that was stacked against it

>>18498715
Ame is moving again? Is her new place that bad for her?

>>18498750
Considering it gave her bread allergy, yes

>>18498721
Look if you just want an excuse to shit on holos you don't like just come out and say it and stop hiding behind numbers, you give honest numberfags a bad name

>>18498750
It has termites

>>18498665
People here are fucking retarded. People were calling Suisei's Animal cover a flop because it took like 4 days to get 1 million.

>>18498716
>It's literally 1 fucktard.
Hey maybe it's this guy >>18498721

>>18498826
>People
it's literally one fucking guy, probably this >>18498721 nigger who drag our name through the mud

https://twitter.com/akaihaato/status/1493882650171707394?t=NaQN-1olt8rxFQStVLP5CA&s=19
https://twitter.com/akaihaato/status/1493875893227618304?t=Yda3t7qQD3MLpP4NciaXeA&s=19
Holy shit haachama....

>>18498858
He was doing it in the miComet thread too.

>>18498805
>>18498830
>>18498858
Look, samefagging seanigger, in what way is it incorrect that those two shitters have around twice the subscriber count of the orca? You can check in 15 seconds too you know. Where are all those millions of views? Mori and Gura don't exactly struggle.

i wonder if the subs cull is still going or if they are still getting that notifiaction that they are removing subs.
All the holos for Jp and EN are kinda low with a few exceptions this month.

>>18498950
kek retard

>>18498889
Running back into the box while she has spare time.

>>18498950
You got me.

>>18498950
>samefagging
Anon... all 3 of those posts are within 1 minute of each other

>>18498995
Your post is as worthless as your life itself, and your oshi's flop covers for that matter.

>>18498826
>People
Please don't refer to one person in plural. He might have schizophrenia but the voices in the head didn't get personalities still

>>18498715
>Ame is looking for a enw house.
>>18498750
>Ame is moving again?
>>18498775
>it gave her bread allergy
>>18498824
>It has termites
kek, you guys really believe in Ame's fairy tales?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuVJcBNp2Rs

Here is the list, and that was pretty much in november 2020
>Head injury (extra ventilation)
>Almost kidnapped
>Ankle break
>Got tricked by a cactus
>Ame's Mom and the friendly kidnappers
>Ame loses teeth

Add to that the recent
>undiagnosed duoble secret ceilac that four different doctors couldn't diagnose, but that anons diagnosed and that prevents her from processing vitamins, making her lazy

Maybe the real explanation is simpler
>she's lazy and can't self motivate

>>18499086
>Your post is as worthless as your life itself
kek the irony is too much, you fucking retard
> your oshi's flop covers
Good thing my oshi holds all the holo song records then

>>18498615
I mean can you blame him? She made a big impression with that 98k ccv karaoke. Prolly mindfucked him to no end and this is him dabbing on her.

>>18499014
If she ends up inclining back to like a 15k floor because of this, I would kneel so fucking hard... People always kept saying that she can do it if she just tries but I never really believed them and just thought it was some haaton cope.. Even though I know this probably won't last, I'd never shit on her numbers ever again...

>>18499172
Nah she has talked about her termites and moving out for a while.

>>18498775
Fucking chemical shock leading to gluten allergy confirmed by latest doctor visit then? Regardless, good thing to move out of a house that's infested with termites, that's no good in the long run anyways.

>>18499182
>A cuckbeat
I apologize to the rest of posters for confusing you with a human, you can have this last (You).

>>18499196
>If she ends up inclining back to like a 15k floor
When the fuck has Haachama ever had a 15k median?
She was gaining subs like crazy during the schizo arc, but you're gonna need a monthly chart from Holo_data or some data to suggest that's ever been a thing for her.

>>18499232
>A cuckbeat
>holds all the holo song records
Jeez you're actually retarded.
What the fuck are you doing in /#/ when you don't even know the actual Holosong record holder?

>>18498889
>Roboco uno
>Matsuri Choco mario kart
>Mumei and Bae minecraft
>Constantly weighed down by the runt of her gen
Why is Chloe always the one that did charitywork in holox while Laplus steers clear from the shitters and always collab with good holos. Plus it's been 2 whole months and they still haven't collabed with each other since debuting. Do they hate each other or some shit.

>>18499442
The last time she almost collab with Laplus, her grandma died.

>>18499249
From the period of Feb 7th till about Early April, her median would have indeed been above 15k. These are the peaks fr holostats (by hand since I'm phoneposting ATM)
All numbers in thousands, Peak CCV
18.4
13.1
10.4
16.6
73.6 (holy shit)
13.6
22
17.2
19
14.7
12.1
24.8
15.8
25.1
19.9
26.9
18.2
10
24.3
68.1
24.5
21.2
21.2
18.5
Median would be 18.75kish

>>18499442
holox has surprisingly weak chemistry, like their duos are very weak, so far the only notorious ones are like lap-lui, lap-iroha and chloe-lui (and even this one is pretty forced). koyo feels pretty divorced from the group at this point, she has way more collabs with senpais than her gen, and iroha seems like a loner so far

>>18499442
But laplus collabed with haachama before, and it made her valorant stream her second biggest valorant steam on her channel, it would've been bigger if lap's internet wasn't so bad
>>18499535
Its already impressive that she went from this to 4k but it'd be much more impressive if she comes back to this or somewhere close at least after such a huge drop

>>18499535
Fair enough.
I checked those streams out and most were gimmick streams during her schizo arc.
I don't remember the circumstances for "Coexist" to peak at fucking 73k tho.
That wasn't a graduation tease right?

>>18499249
>When the fuck has Haachama ever had a 15k median?
Here is Haachama's 30 days median of peak CCV up until late 2021.

She had a massive incline in October thanks to her return from the chinkout (and also thanks to her latching into the newly debuted EN branch), and spent the whole November over 15k.
Then she pulled the schizo arc and inclined herself into the 15k again in Feb and Mar.

The little number over the markets are the number of streams she had in the 30 days period. Whenever she streams consistently she inclines, and when she streams inconsistently she reclines.

Pekora taking a bit of time off because of her voice so the field is wide open for others to fill.
https://twitter.com/usadapekora/status/1493879213463851010

>>18499705
I'm fairly certain that one stream is her announcing her second big hiatus right in the thick of the coco stuff.
The one was THE graduation bait and the only one I truly accept as that

>>18499705
It was the 'climax' of the schizo arc pretty much, if my memory isn't completely shot. From there there were a few other bits that wrapped things up.

>>18497507
Bae better have a bunch of prerecorded videos and shorts ready for her time off.

She allegedly is going to take 2 weeks off once February is done.

>>18499705
That was probably the 1M celebration? Stream. End of coexist

>>18499577
Laplus also has more collabs with Rushia than she did with Chloe. One's a senpai and one's her genmate. Chloe only ever collabs with Lui and she hasn't had a single 1 on 1 collab with anyone else in her gen. I don't even know what the fuck they were doing during their 1 month collab ban.

>>18499765
Will Pekora not get Gold at all this month?

>>18499773(me)
I might be wrong here actually but I swear the time she announced her second hiatus after coco announced her graduation gave EVERYONE a scare, if haachama was graduating it would've been during that time

what a slow fucking day... no marine no aqua no pekora no subaru.. why live?

>>18499833
Depends if she has any ideas for when she comes back.

https://youtu.be/JLpZflmaQaQ
I swear to god I keep seeing this on the hololive schedule website. did she never stream this?

>>18499804
Collab ban was shortened but they pretty much did their own things.

>>18499840
Yes.
There was genuine concern it was going to be a 1-2 graduation punch, and the concerns, in hindsight, were not unfounded since Haachama herself said she was really considering graduating and going to do her studies instead of coming back.

>>18499743
Here is including the most recent numbers
>that recline
It's not just CCVID btw, she had a rough patch of every stream being an attempt to create the next schizo arc which unavoidably became a singing stream
>including pulling that stunt on NYE relay

She's on a incline path now, having gotten her shit together

>>18497339
Yeah I took a look at it now and from the looks of it, the views have processed from the vod or at least processed enough to give an idea of where things fell during the stream. As always with Gura, it’s a matter of “this was too good to be X” given how extreme her live messages was compared to her typical streams on top of the views for just an hours time. The best comparison I can use here that’s actually recent enough is this:
https://youtu.be/NQ4NJWTsj4k
>23,312/29,871
A near 12k higher peak than Gura with a way higher average, of which had more than a days worth of time processing and collecting views has managed to hit 320k. Gura’s vod will likely hit that or close to it in another 6-10 hours. So it’s pretty hard to guess where exactly she probably was but for a 1hr minecraft stream, that’s a lot of fucking viewers. Absolutely unreal as usual

>>18499929
isn't it kind of ironic that Coco and Kanata was the reason why she didn't graduate?

>>18499840
Peak of graduation scare was 74,585.

>>18499962
what's your definition of "irony"?

>>18499890
You must live

>>18499833
Yes

Laplus MLTD shilling stream

>>18499962
Not really no, I'm pretty sure all parties states that they didn't really say anything to her, but it was haachama just looking at the having fun and being fine with it that she knew she was overthinking it a bit, there's literally a clip of Kanata saying that "both her and coco didn't say ANYTHING to haachama"
Her mind works on some really weird ways

>>18499921
Shame. They are the most thematic JP gen so far but they did nothing with it.
>muh lore
I know but I expected SOME kind of unity instead of barely any. I hate to be reminded that they're all corporate drones at the end of the day.

>>18499705
Graduation scare was a different stream

Oh God
Peko got sick today.
No stream

Looks like the field is open for another nijigold. The biggest holos scheduled today are doing debuff streams, and Gura's 19k surely won't hold up.

>>18499765
Pekora become Marine now

>>18500089
what's on the niji side?

>>18499781
>She allegedly is going to take 2 weeks off once February is done.
Good lord, that's one way to destroy whatever momentum you built up lol.

I think the inconsistent schedules for HoloEN as a whole right now is having a macro effect on their numbers.
It's been hard as hell to schedule collabs between members and there's no "narrative" or "arc" game right now to unite the branch like Minecraft did back then.
For a while, it was exciting to watch HoloEN because it felt like they were all working on something together (EN portal) every night and there was the chance anyone would just pop in in VC.
For the past 2 months, everyone has been just doing their own thing and the amount of interactions in general have dropped because half the roster takes turns being unavailable.

>>18499947
>using Aqua
Kek. You do know Aqua has more devoted fans that will watch whatever she streams unlike ENs who only attract tourists.

>>18499944
Here is the same chart for Fubuki
>DAMN, she inclined

Pokemon buff still didn't wear off

>>18500035
>streams boring shit on twitch so as to not cripple her numbers
>avoids mundane shit like SC reading like the plague
>profit

>>18498170
Reimu....

>>18499781
Is only one week if i recall.

Speaking of haachama, tomorrow she's supposedly going to turn her SCs back on, but I saw somewhere that she likes it this way better because there's no obligation of reading superchats... So I have no idea if she'll actually turn them back on again or not...

>>18500049
Yeah, this stream was the peak of the schizo arc. The entire thing was peak Kino and the numbers were insane. Hopefully she can get the creative juices flowing again.

>>18500169
>Hopefully she can get the creative juices flowing again.
That took such a mental toll on her I'd rather to have her rested and care free like now, numbers be damned

>>18499765
This is why you take breaks, probably 2-3 days per week. Most VAs get some sort of throat related disease by the time they're 40 and I suspect vtubers will suffer the same fate.

Fuck those no stream schizos

>>18500143
>not reading SCs
>profit
She's behind Koyori, Iroha and Chloe on SCs

>>18500169
Ngl I'd rather not, this is much much better.
This is almost close to mid 2020 haachama which is arguably the best haachama
A gimmick stream every now and then is still fine though, I remember her new friend karaoke stream, peak kino too

>Phony 8mil in under 3 months
This cover has insane legs

>>18500123
with holofest coming and their own individual projects and issues is hard to get togheter again.
THey need to do a big project like the renovation of MC EN server again. or having another game to gather around.

>No peko, marine, subaru, aqua
Its over bros… niji month
Holo 9 - Niji 6

>>18500124
>The most tourist of tourist streamers for JP since Haachama of the mid 2021s after her Apex run
>Valentines day
>Special event
That’s literally as tourist as you can get for an hours time. Really not sure where you’re getting the idea she’s strictly being seen by just her fans. It’s more accurate to say that at any moment Aqua hits live, tens of thousands will come in droves to see her. 60k for apex gacha? 50k for a half assed ch51? 30k for karaoke and vday?
If you genuinely want me to pull up other 1hr long streams the chances are Gura’s gonna shitstomp the fuck out of 99% of them so what’s the point. Better to compare with actual high numbers. Laplus is the only strong comparison as she -only- does hour long videos and she’s already been obliterated, with her 160k sv stream was lapped on hard.

>>18500197
>Fuck those no stream schizos
Pretty ironic that Pekora is the one suffering from those issue now, karma at its best.

>>18500248
does someone have the chart to see when was the last niji month

>>18500137
Her getting more viewers than Korone on the recent among us collab still fucked me up. Though I guess it's less about FBK inclining and more about Korone reclining hard. Still can't believe her return to Banjo can't even break 20k. People really lost interest in her.

>>18500197
3-4 streams a week if you want to do 4+ hour streams where you're constantly talking, shorter streams means you can probably do everyday. Be like Fubuki, balance in all things.
Don't end up like Marine (and now Pekora) where you go so hard and for so many hours you end up crippling yourself. Not everyone can do crazy hours, it's literally a matter being 'built different'. All the training and practice in the world cannot overcome genetics if you get cursed with oddly shaped vocal chords or a more sensitive throat that limit your hours.

>>18499944
>>18500137
And here is Nene
>gen5 schizo, don't look!

She's at the highest point since debut buff. Absolutely mind boggling

>>18500283
eh, korone always had like a 13k floor after the big dec 2020 cull, and it hasn't changed that much, it's more like she has stagnated

>>18500317
>the highest point since debut buff.
how common is this?

>>18500317
Nene is the real slow and steady success story

>>18500241
Its been competing with CalliGura KING and Laplus's Godish for top weekly 3 for the past 3 months.
At this rate, it's going to catch up and surpass Chima's Phony despite being released months after.
Unfortunately, it kinda took away from Getcha's legs, which were just as insane for months.

>>18500317
NENE INCLINE
>NENE INCLINE

>>18500283
Yeah it's really too bad for her, she's one of the first to break through to the mainstream EN back then but now that everyone is well known and actually speaks English she lost momentum, and the thing that sets her apart (endurance run of shitty old games) is number poison to the highest degree. She's still doing fine though, and she doesn't seem to be the type that strives for numbers anyway.

>>18500283
>Still can't believe her return to Banjo can't even break 20k. People really lost interest in her.
is harder for EOPs to watch streams now than it was a year ago.
Tough i think something in the algo might have changed that is not recomending streams as much or the subs cull is messing the algo.

>>18500339
Very common with the early gens, not common from Gen 4 and beyond

>>18500230
And she has by far the best ccv and vod views in holox which is the point I'm trying to make. Can't have em all anon.

>>18500317
Ducking prime time really works for her

>>18500284
Irys looks to be one along that line as well, she doesn't stream as much hours as Peko (though obviously much more than regular EN) but it seems it's enough coupled with her singing to actually hurt her throat real bad. Koyori might be next if she's not careful

Full time Jenshin streamer

wtf so today gura gold with 19k?
everyone goes ayame mode now?

>>18500247
>THey need to do a big project like the renovation of MC EN server again. or having another game to gather around.
Council has a lot of Minecraft "firsts" that they haven't gotten yet, like first Elytra, first Ender Dragon fight...etc. Most of their houses are still unfinished, so they can always return to MC later.

HoloEN also teased the idea of a Terraria playthrough a few weeks ago and I really hope they return to it because it's a fun co-op game that allows for many participants. Probably a nightmare to schedule with that many people tho, just like TTRPG.

>>18500424
holojp is currently recovering from all the fucking they did on the 15th, some of them can't walk yet

>>18500424
If Kuzuha shows up he'll take it

>>18500405
yep, if you're a singer maybe do it like suisei who only streams occasionally.

>>18500384
Not really very effective on marketing standpoint. She's like Botan with high CCV but low SCs. This is why Lamy and Nene are the ones with the merch sponsors.

>>18500270
I don't even need to look at that and tell you it's August which is baseball month. Even their most insanely buffed month they won by only 2.

>>18500424

>>18500424
kuzu will take it
lize is streaming genshin but if its not gacha it wont matter

>>18500424
Kek. Miko is still streaming. EN will never get gold on a normal stream.

>>18500446
Terraria is also numbers poison

>>18500449
Comments like this make me uinderstand why NTR is such a popular tag in the east and cuckoldry in the west.

It seems some guys can't help but continuously imagine the girls they hate being fucked by other men while they watch.
Go figure but yeah, to each their preferenecs

>>18500384
Anon have you seen how much she grooms her fans on Twitter? Some of her tweets have 1.5k replies somehow... That kind of stuff doesn't translate into money though because this isn't the same type of grooming that rushia did

>>18500501
Is the fifth part of Ace attorney

>>18500469
>Not really very effective on marketing standpoint.
>This is why Lamy and Nene are the ones with the merch sponsors.
Botan is a sponsor magnet too so idk what your point is.
Mio and Fubuki also don't get as much SC as the top SC holos, but they get a shitton of sponsorships.

>>18499947
heres a quick rule of thumb for you. Streams close to 1hr long usually have their total views x10 their ccv, at least for most of the jps. So 10k ccv = 100k views, for example. Gura should have stopped at 18, but its quickly going far over 300k.

>>18500490
>lize is streaming genshin but if its not gacha
It will be gacha, the new character just dropped today.

>>18500529
should have stopped at 180k views*

>>18500505
but it's true anon, your oshi is fucking someone RIGHT NOW
and you're right, it's me

>>18500529
That only applies to some holos.

>>18500527
Fubuki is kinda the face of Hololive in a way so that makes sense (she literally got into an anime episode), but Mio's popularity still baffles me. She seems like the only ones who likes her are hag fans, yet she still get tons of sponsorships

>>18500547
then that is probably the gold for today.

>>18499947
>43% Asia
>28% others

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npVP58NvdQ8
>700k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P5oggg7aSE
>400k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULtGHb83pTI
>300k
>gen 5 is inclining
>regularly fails to hit 1M with their original songs while Myth clears the bar easily despite debuting at the same time to less hype

>>18500463
I swear Cover was getting some Monkeys paw shit on that one, their vsinger is their most enthusiastic streamer yet their actual Council members (with the possible exception of Bae) just don't stream enough.

>>18500469
anon, botan has the most sponsorships in gen 5.

>>18500503
Maybe when Irys play it by herself, but it's not a debuff game in a group since it can be a single POV collab.

>>18500612
you couldn't have picked a worse example for nene dumbass, that song had a topic for it for months before the actual mv got released

>>18500612
>generation marketed to EN worldwide
vs
>generation marketed to JP
Nobody really likes the EN songs anyway

>>18500367
>she doesn't seem to be the type that strives for numbers anyway
This is the exact reason as to why she's my oshi. Is my /#/ pass revoked now?

I feel like the best solution to fixing Cover's scouting is to include a regular streamer along with 4 talents. They've gambled on rrat, but she is more or less the same as Mumei. They are good singers, but they don't have any achievements in games like reaching the top rank in Apex/Valorant/Csgo/Dota/LoL etc. They all need one game to fall back on. Gura had one, but chinks stopped her.

>>18500662
>arguing with gen 5 schizo

how butthurt do you have to be in order to schizopost every day about a gen for over a year and a half?

>>18500514
I thought that's the kinda stuff that translates into money? What did she do wrong then?

Jesus are we entering the dark era where all the big hitters die at the same time? Even Aqua go hermit mode after getting her Apex Master

Thoughts on Mihoyo plagiarizing Sakura Miko?

>>18500675
my oshi doesn't break 10k most days anon, and i'm sure a lot of people here have one like that. it actually makes it easier to distance yourself to fling shit among the top contenders, and then you get to celebrate when your oshi does good and most of the time no one shits on them

>>18500687
As much as people hate gachas, they makes good fallback games and pulling streaming generates good CCV/SC. Sadly, they lost access to all the populars streaming gachas with the Coco thing

>>18500710
*Hoyoverse

>>18500707
This always happens before Holofes. Expect more singing streams as well.

>>18500707
>Even Aqua go hermit mode after getting her Apex Master
She streamed 8 days out of 11 since then, can't really call that "hermit mode".

>>18500469
Laplus is exactly the kind of holo to get absolutely showered with sponsorships anon. Her getting high SCs on top of that would be overkill. There's a reason Cover shills her as the face of holox. She's another Pekora in the making.

>>18500687
>they don't have any achievements in games like reaching the top rank in Apex/Valorant/Csgo/Dota/LoL etc. They all need one game to fall back on.
A quick glance at the top dogs of the industry already proves this is nothing but headcanon.
>Pekora -bad at most games
>Kuzuha -average at best in Apex, still the most popular FPS vtuber by a fucking mile
>Marine -Good at ...touhou?
>Gura

Even in Luxiem, they have no top tier gamers.

>>18500763
Sorry, miscounted, it's 7, not 8.

>>18500675
its good that your oshi is not a numbernigger, it means theyll just do what they love instead of pandering to a mass of retards

>>18500673
>Nobody really likes the EN songs anyway
3 million people disagree with you

>>18500042
They have unity with the holos they actually get along with. Forcing collabs between members that only see each other as coworkers and not friends is a lot drier and more corporate.

>La+ 15k with idolmaster
Tsuyoi!

>>18500812
what are you doing here, retard?

>>18500662
None of her other songs have hit 1M either, meanwhile remind me again how many views Sparks has gotten

>>18500835
play number sports with people i don't actually care about like kuzuha or aqua

>>18500736
Yeah, Genshin is obvious, but to me losing the Azur Lane collab is a really big blow too. Another huge loss is Arknights, the EN girls are definitely invested in that one in more ways that one.

>>18500698
>I can't argue with numbers so I'll call him a schizo, that'll work!

>>18500420
Her genshin vods ALWAYS get 70k to 80k views what the fuck

>>18500842
You mean the song Kiara obnoxiously shilled at any occasion ? It would've been pretty fucking sad if she failed to break 1M with it

>>18500759
yeah holofest alwasy ahd the girls way too busy a shame becasue this month seems ruthless sub wise.

>>18500880
>as if gen 5 doesn't shill their songs
yes, pretty fucking sad that they still fail to break 1M despite all that shilling from Cover

>>18500736
It's popular to talk shit about Genshin on this board, but Ina and Kronii would probably stream it if they could and their gacha streams whenever a new character drops would easily pull 10k+ viewers.
I get why, but it feels weird that Ina's roommate gets commissioned to draw by Mihoyo and Kronii used to stream Genshin on her PL and now they're not even allowed to mention it on stream.

>>18500842
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0LwOuJnnVTs
Retard

>>18500916
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

>>18500916
thanks for the link anon, couldn't find it through search to show this retard

>>18500868
>her

>>18500783
Streamers generally needs a game with infinite replayability to fall back on so that their content doesn't get stale. For Holos though, I don't mind watching someone play Minecraft twice a week like Pekora did months ago or Suisei playing tetris.

But song views aren't everything, it's just one specific metric out of a lot of usable metrics.