/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Lol no.

>>18471294
no she deserves even more hate

>>18471294
Not after lying about the "stargazing"

>>18471839
meds now

>>18471906
why do I even need meds when the post and the stream exists.

She's a conman who lied about her little vacation only to stream in her ACTUAL channel.

>>18471294
She really doesn't, The people here that hate Calli are on the same level as those who cancelled Rushia memberships cause she was talking to another dude on the internet. People don't like that she doesn't act like the Japanese holomembers and doesn't uwu or owo all the time at them.

>>18471970
Oh my god she streamed on her IRL channel instead of dedicating every waking moment of her life to Hololive and entertaining entitled losers like you. Grow the fuck up and go touch grass.

>>18471294
she kind of does though

>>18471970
take your rrats back to /hlgg/

>>18472001
>Cuckbeat leaning on every fad yab to deflect from their 5% whore

>>18471294
Nah, she's a big ol' fat ol' wigger bitch.

>>18471839
What's this about now?

>>18472255
rrats, antis and literal children making up shit on the go, as always

>>18472286
>Imagine lying about not being able to stream because of "vacation"
>only to stream the following day.

>>18472193
>leaning

>>18472361
>take an extra step to make your fans happy despite having a free time
>this is now le bad in the ledditor's eyes
go back

>>18471294
Yes she does
But that doesn't change the fact that I like her content, so unless she makes something really terrible I'll still enjoy that pink dork.

And here I thought people had already let that go by with the new rushia rrats.

>>18472407
deadbeats =/= demons.

One being a Mumei anti illustrates that point clearly. One of these days, there'll be a conflict arising from this.

I love how after weeks of deadbeats bribing and blackmailing jannies to ban any on topic criticism of Mori, they start making bait threads. Pottery

>>18472361
You're new to "mori vacations" aren't you? That bitch calls normal weekends "breaks" and 3-day offs "vacations". It's her wagie brainrot in years working as a JET.

>>18472474
no, you really must go back. If you don't support her in all forms, you're no supporter at all and you're just a hypocrite cunt and should die.

>>18472569
How about YOU go back?

>>18471294

>>18471294
She deserves a little hate, Anon.

>>18472474
I can’t believe that shit is real.

>>18472793
She even gave a shoutout to the guy, for "holding the fort"

Not until she kneels to Kiara and begs for forgiveness

>>18472793
>>18472855
I've clearly missed something important

>>18472883
what did she do to Kiara?

>>18472855
Old account was on hiatus for two years and thanks someone bumping her l*ddit. How is this related to whatever you're arguing about again?

>>18472976
>and that guy was spreading rrats about Mumei.
I can't even fathom why Mumei likes Mori after that.

>>18472094
>Grow the fuck up
>posting on 4chan
>posting on a VTubers board
>posting in a thread about a VTuber

how about you fuck off, you clearly don't belong here

>>18472933
A guy who posts Mumei cuck pics got a shoutout from notMori.

>>18472569
>If you don't support her in all forms
You're clearly not interested in the chuuba but the roastie. Fuck off.

>>18471970
she literally already went stargazing and came back, retardchama

>>18473030
Different reddit board and you'll only spot that if you open his account. Why would she know that?

>implying it is hate and just laughing at a retard

>>18471294
SHE SHOULD BE THE ONE APOLOGISING THE CONSTANT BLANANT DISRESPECT TO HOLOLIVE AND YAGOO IS DISGUSTING.

>>18471294
>apologizing to a pink hair
ISHYGDDT.

>>18472094
ey wazzup mori

>>18456711
Reminder that Yagoo and Hololive has sided with Mori and the discussion is over.
>>18456711
Reminder that Yagoo and Hololive has sided with Mori and the discussion is over.
>>18456711
Reminder that Yagoo and Hololive has sided with Mori and the discussion is over.

im just waiting for the next fuck up, its comming fast, and more and more people are realizing who she really is

>>18472543
What's a JET?

>>18474150
https://jetprogramusa.org/

>>18474150
Japan Exchange and Teaching. She was an English teacher in Japan.

>>18474261
>>18474283
Ah nice, thank you

>>18471294
She deserves all my hate for being friendly with TT and serving as their way into hololive. I thought it stopped after the first podcast appearance but then a second one happened and so on

>>18471294
it doesnt matter who you are, if you support Mori (watch, donate, membership, etc.) you're a cuck and nothing can convince me otherwise

>>18474150
https://jetprogramusa.org/jet-program/

>>18473103
I doubt she knows anything about that.

>>18475088
and this is the exact same thing with TT. "She doesn't know anything about it" is a convenient excuse.

>>18472401
Like pottery.

>>18472094
No, you go away! Only man-children are welcome here.

>>18471294

>>18473103
And people have the audacity to say deadbeats are anti unity. They engage in rrat spreading too, maybe even more than the rest of us. I guess they have to deflect to somebody.

>>18473896
Who is she Anon?

>>18475254
a child drinking lean influenced by e-celebs.

>>18472094
Aye. you fuckin new here schizo?

>>18471294
Lol,never

>>18473896
>aaaaany day now
Ogey, keep us posted.

>>18473103
A guy that posts Mori cuck pics got a shoutout from Mori, nothing new.

>>18471294
Yes, she does.
>>18472883
Also this.

>>18475134
Who the fuck opens reddit profiles and checks their posts? Why even?

>>18472883
Falseflag.

>>18475416
Mori actually thinks the cuck meme is hilarious by the way. She doesn’t like tweets joking about it on her main, but she still likes tweets about cucking on her other account.

She focuses on her other career too much to make good content on her main channel. The only time she's decent at her thing on Mori is when she's doing something she's actually interested in. Her shirking her Hololive gig to do other things shows a large disinterest in actually doing things for her fans in the vein hope that some of them will come and watch her outside this life. I'm sure everyone's tired of reading this line, but it needs to be said again for this case. They are playing a character, to what degree their character is actually like themselves depends on the Holo. Given Mori's past, I highly doubt you will get the cutesy autist reaper that most of the fans fell in love with. With that, she'll bleed a decent chunk of her fanbase off over a few months.

>>18476858
To be fair they are funny.
Which is why I will never stop calling them cuckbeats

>>18476953
Agreed

Apologize? Fuck no, only women and faggots apologize

>>18476869
yeah I see her moving on from Hololive sooner than later

>>18476869
Spot on

>>18471294
Sip on this lean nigga.

>>18471294
If she stopped the wigger shit she'd be 100x more likeable
She's got a good personality but the rapping/"yo homie" vernacular is like taking a supermodel and covering her in feces
There's something really pretty underneath, but you really just don't feel like it's worth having to lick the actual shit off of her to see it

>>18476869
Her roommate will never do the "GFE" teasing that Mori does.
Imagine her trying to do ASMR on her other channel. She also loses the S+ model/gap moe from losing the character model.

>>18472883
this but only if begging for forgiveness is code for hot lesbian sex

>>18472474
>>18472569
I find her streams and songs as Mori utter shit and plastic, but at the same time I have always loved DD’s songs, and continue to do so. Plus there is the fact that, being just a singer that I like, I couldn’t give two fucks about what she does with her life, what just isn’t possible if we’re talking about a vtuber.
It’s impressive how it’s like we are talking about two different people, so I just hope she graduates, maybe it will be better for everyone

>>18479599
And that’s a good thing

>>18478233
No way. She'll never reach the same success she has with hololive, and how else is she going to get noticed by her favorite le funnay ecelebs?

>>18479875
That's what you personally think. There are many who pay into her because of those things and join members for that kind of shit. If you think she'll be doing just as financially well without it, you might have brain damage.

>>18480409
Right now the main allure is "Getting to see the real side of Mori!". What happens when Mori doesn't exist?

>>18472094
you're genuinely mentally ill

She will do pretty well financially as an independent. Yeah, most of the casuals will leave her, but 90% of the paying members will follow her. Yeah, she won't have Holo collabs, but she can collab with twitch streamers/vshojos.
Plus she doesn't have to give anything to cover plus liveshows, plus merchandise.
What I am most worried about are her abismal PR skills and lack of commonsense in business, she definitely needs a good manager.

Why is it so hard for her to just stay away from controversy and do her job?

>>18480409
This.
I really disliked her right from the get go so I actually spent a decent amount of time asking people on leddit why they liked her in the following weeks of their debut and pretty much everyone said that it's because she was the ideal GF for them.

>>18472883
>Kiara
Why are people sucking Kiara's dick? I seem to remember her "cross pollination". She's just as bad.

>>18471294
honestly i don't have an issue with her and wish her the best. i love seeing cuckbeats repeatedly shit themselves though.

>>18481118
this is literally every chuubas fanbase

>>18479935
>>18479599
>>18480409
Thing is I hope she's actually foolish enough to think this so as to expedite her exit from the hololive that she so detests, the medium she herself thinks she's unsuited for and the coworkers and fans she looks down on, explicly and or implicitly.
The sooner she's gone the less damage she can cause to the rest of the girls. I don't give a shit about calli anymore, only insofar as there's aftershocks affecting the girls I actually still like.

>>18481302
but the difference is that cuckbeats these days try to weave this narrative that Mori's popularity didn't come from GFE

>>18471294
No, but I don't have to approve of everything she does, either. It's possible to dislike how a person handles situations without hating that person. Something that people seem to forget.

>>18481638
Honestly I hope she's more successful outside of hololive. I hope it encourages the rest of the holos who don't like it to pack their things and go.

I don't know why so many people here are speculating about her leaving hololive. She isn't leaving any time soon.
https://youtu.be/0WshLMuaCBI?t=6488
https://youtu.be/X6zqDeW_SGk?t=1013

>>18481638
>Thing is I hope she's actually foolish enough to think this
She absolutely does. I'm still a firm believer that all the stuff that happened was just her laying the groundwork for her kson.

>>18481788
You can hope as much as you want but even Coco faded to irrelevancy and she's the absolute best case scenario.

>>18481788
See, I honestly hope she does well for herself.
>>18481807
I just get annoyed that its obvious her full attention isn't on the job at hand. She spreads herself thin and it shows in her collab streams and it irritates the fuck out of me. She goes in cycles of being ok to being absolute shit and if it's something she likes, she's great. I don't watch Mori much outside of collabs with my Oshi, so my view is a bit tainted. Quit it with the massive amount of sidework and focus on your job and maybe you'll show a little more interest.

>>18481050
IDK but it's hilarious to see her bite bait like her fuckin life depends on it.

>>18481807
because they're idiots who don't watch streams. The main reason she even has that other channel on standby is because she's using it as a release-point for her stress. Specifically so that she'll be better as Mori.

>>18472094
>Grow the fuck up and go touch grass.
You first, buddy. Or are you phoneposting this from the park??

>>18471294
Yes she does, even more than Rushia

Reminder that not once did she ever call out the guy that trash talked her, her genmates and by extension every other employee of hololive. Instead she decided to defend this guy and die on that hill for some reason to her own detriment and lashed out at the deadbeat that called attention to this fact and suggested that it was not in her best interests and all but banned him.
She doesn't belong. The sooner she's out the better.

>>18472474
Mumei anti? QRD?

>>18482115
Can't be. Mori's way too egotistic and narcissistic to be a self-hater.

>>18482018
>coco faded to irrelevancy
This smells very EOP

>>18471294
She practically called all of her fans cucks.

>>18482377
Was she wrong?

>>18481788
>I hope it encourages the rest of the holos who don't like it to pack their things and go.
And who might they be?
Because the only one that radiates these vibes so visibly, in manner and action, that it's obvious to anyone who isn't retarded is her and her alone. The others might have their down moments but they get back up and the show goes on. Mori's doing shows is elsewhere.

>>18471294
She did basically the same thing, she just didn't exploit lonely, arguably mentally ill men. The fact that she went far out of her way to rub it in everyone's faces on her company accounts and never apologized honestly makes it a similar yab. The only reason it doesn't feel as big as rushias is there's no amount of abuse an English speaking audiences won't take.

>>18482461
You don't spit at the people putting food on your table, zoomer. Sorry you never learned some manners.

>>18482467
She's not the only holo who begs for outside collabs frequently.

>>18471294

>>18482095
>The main reason she even has that other channel on standby is because she's using it as a release-point for her stress. Specifically so that she'll be better as Mori.
How do you know this? She's said so specifically? Lmao and you believed her?
She has no more credibility and that's some flimsy reasoning right there
>imma plan and do all this extra other time consuming, energy sucking shit here so that I can devote even LESS time there at the place that actually made me relevant!
dense.

>>18482621
That doesn't answer the question. Who else is champing at the bit to leave? Merely wanting collabs isn't a sign of dissatisfaction with plans to fuck off.
Who?
No one that's who.

>>18482351
Cope nigger. She's become a literal nobody with a dedicated band of paypigs and an extremely inflated sub count.

Funniest shit is that for all the moaning about creative restraints in Hololive, she's done nothing other than bog standard gaming content ever since she left. I guess the creative restraints boiled down to IRL facecam streams being prohibited.

>>18482973
>Funniest shit is that for all the moaning about creative restraints in Hololive, she's done nothing other than bog standard gaming content ever since she left. I guess the creative restraints boiled down to IRL facecam streams being prohibited.
This was the most disappointing thing. I was expecting unadulterated kino and all I got was a few scattered, ultimately forgettable collabs and the same old shit.

>>18481710
she does the most parasocial content of holoen i think (maybe kiaras got her beat there? but i dont think so) but she doesnt do gfe much at all

t. deadbeat

>>18482778
Yep! You'll have to put up with her for years to come.
>imma plan and do all this extra other time consuming, energy sucking shit here so that I can devote even LESS time there at the place that actually made me relevant!
Also this doesn't make any sense unless she actually starts streaming less as Mori. Maybe try again next year so you can compare the number of streams. You'll still be here in a year, right?

>>18483305
Oh, you mean like "Sorry guys, I'm so busy right now with recording"?

>>18471294
I unsubbed from both her and Ina, which is the first time I've ever unsubbed from a talent. Actually hurt a bit because I liked them since the beginning, but it had to be done. I just can't support them anymore after actively calling their fans cucks and losers.
They can both go fuck themselves.

>>18483170
>9/10 people became a fan of her because she was the ideal GF for them
>shut up it's not GFE because I say so!
How many times does this have to be beaten into you faggots? Vtubing is inherently seeped in female companionship whether you lean into it or not. There are just difference layers to it.

>>18483400 (me)
*different. . .

>>18483400
>Vtubing is inherently seeped in female companionship whether you lean into it or not
you ppl gotta get help

they're just streamers dude. it not a big deal

>>18482973
>>18483146

Do none of you damm faggots watch streams or are just here to fucking shitpost like an madman. Kson said plenty of times she has big things in work but they require time to do. But no you guys shit up the catalog everyday as schizos and don't even know the basic of hololive culture you fucks praise about. . First you made fun of Kiara for months, Ame for the possibility of a past relationship then ollie, then coco over graduation, then you made fun of sana trying to grieve her dog, You insulted matsuri constantly for the za hando, Now your shitposting about rushia while she grieving, and lastly now you same faggots are making fun of mori. Who the hell next shitposters.

>>18483352
Is that a yes? Don't give up on me now! I'll be waiting

>>18483352
you've done it. you've caught her in the lie that going to bring her down, the lie she thought no one would find out about becaue of her very secret account that only you, /vt/'s most elite detective, has discovered. she is consciously lying to her fans and you're the one who will set the truth free

>>18471294
Each passing day my hate for Mori grows stronger.

>>18483444
Women don't have the capability to intellectually entertain men. The only thing they can entertain is our heart and dick. It's a fact. Cope.

>>18483400
>Every Stream does GFE
>The voices in my head told me so!
Ogey

>>18483488
>Kson said plenty of times she has big things in work but they require time to do
I guess over half a year isn't enough time kek.
Seethe faggot.

>>18483578
big reveal that the weird vt anti doesnt consider any of the people he spends 8 hours a day discussing actual humans, huge shocker

>>18483537
If she chooses not to stream on her main account and goes to her alt (which at this point if comparing income and interaction, it's her alt) to stream, that means she didn't want to put on the facade for you today.
>>18483488
Reee more. Each of those is a different situation and I have yet to bitch about any of the other girls you mentioned. Kson is no different in either form and she stayed pretty true to herself when she was Coco, so I have no issue with it. Mori on the other hand is not very interested in what she's doing currently (playing into 'I love you guys' to get money) and streaming most games with restrictions, so once she stops doing Hololive, her content will drastically change and she will lose a chunk of her current supporters and paypigs.

>>18483305
The only reason she'll stay in holo at interim is for work visa reasons and cover's support. She's dumb but not dumb enough to think getting rid of that right now is an advantage. Watch as over the next while she'll be increasingly "too busy with other stuff" to stream for you, to collab, to do anything really, at least on her holo channel. It'll get to the point where she'll put Ayame to shame lmao. Staying in holo for such a mercenary reason will affect her interactions with the others, negatively, more than it already has done. For that reason alone she should exit as soon as possible; one thing to be a drag on your own but dragging others down is unforgivable.

>>18483488
>Kson said plenty of times she has big things in work but they require time to do.
She can talk as much as she wants you faggot, but she's yet to deliver anything. By her 1yr point you'll still be coping with this
>2 more weeks guise! Just enjoy! Big things soon!

>>18483847
Uh huh. You can come back to me with this in one year too. I'll be waiting for your reports!

>>18483698
oh shit i didn't realize that it's been 7 and a half months already
wtf has she been doing?

>>18484193
You will be reminded whenever she fucks up a collab for evetyone because she was too busy with her own shit to give a fuck, unless it's with e-celeb anitubers in which case she'll be ultra attentive and organized. Nothing new for her, right? Look forward to more mediocrity.

>>18482973
Coco was la creatividad all along. That excuse never really held any water in the first place. She’s been coasting off of Asacoco for how long now?

>>18483352
recording shouldn't take that long if you come prepared

>>18483384
>calling their fans cucks and losers.
what did ina say?

>>18482018
Coco/Kson is legit the top earning Indie Vtuber at the moment, she is currently making more than any of the Hololive members when it comes to take home pay.

That aside, I don't see the same happening for Mori.

>>18482095
There is a lot of cope on /vt/, but that has to be the worst cope I've seen all day.

>>18485481
I don't know that that is actually true. There's more to pay than SC

>>18471294
I don't hate her but I'm not supporting any member that publicly associates with a vocal anti

>>18475411
>Jakarta ID

Kek

>>18474150
Holy hell where do you people come from?

>>18482621
She is the only one the openly hates being in hololive, this is not the case for the other girls.

>>18475411
she's graduating by the end of this year, you will see her funnel viewers to her roommate over the next few months as her contract expires.

cant wait till she graduates, her grifter expat friends dump her because the clout well ran dry and then has to settle back into her 2view liquor rant streams because she'll have one friend in Milky to legally interact with because she has 0 vtuber connections because she hates vtubing

She doesn’t care about hololive, she doesn’t care about you, she doesn’t care about the other girls. She is only looking for the next stepping stone in her search for more fame and clout. Once she gets her out, she’s gone.

Ever wonder what happened to her old friends, wonder why she seems to have burned so many bridges? You’ll find out soon enough.

>>18486078
didn't this use to be after Fes? keep moving that goalpost, antichama

>>18486199
>tfw she pulls a CM Punk and signing her new Contract on-stream

>>18486199
i don't know about the fes stuff, but letting her contract run out is the natural end to things, early dismissal is usually over things like breaking the contract

>>18483305
She is not going to be in Hololive is 6 months time, she is going to grad of her own free will to focus on her other work which is legit blowing up because everyone knows she is Mori.

>>18473822
>personal life includes using company persona to support a vocal critic of the company
At least try to sound believable TT shill

>>18486329
>>18481807

>>18486329
Call it

>>18483384
You're correct regarding Mori, but you're utterly retarded regarding Ina. She was correct in calling out a dumbass backsetter a loser, kept calling out her mistakes in a fighting game, something she or any of the other girls, barely play.

>>18475486
So a well known eceleb openly shitting on her agency and coworkers is something she would have to dig deep to know about? Your "argument" further falls apart due to her even attacking her own fans for pointing it out, then using her character to publicly support him. You have no fucking leg to stand on.

>>18485082
dont ask that tard, he's one of like 3 retards who shows up in threads to spread 1 false ina narrative

>>18486602
Nobody fucking watches them, not even her. (you) brought it up to her.

this fat wigger got real lucky that the rushia yab happened when it did. bitch is obsessed with haters and if /vt/ kept shitting on her for another week she probably would’ve had a genuine meltdown and another colossal yab

>>18480913
She's less of draw than Coco who did literally the same thing and isn't exactly skyrocketing. I'm not saying she isn't full of herself enough to try it, but it's gonna be a rude awakening if she does.

>>18486686
It’ll pick up steam again soon. The Rushia situation will die down the longer she stays away and Mori can’t help but bite on bait, it’s in her blood. We’ll see how tonight goes.

>>18480913
>She will do pretty well financially as an independent.
No she won't. paypigs who haven't seen her IRL will go elsewhere when they see her IRL face, which is hideous.

>>18481174
She defended c*nnor when fans called him out for being a holo anti but not kiara when the same troll literally called her a prostitute

>>18485647
The real issue people have to understand is that Hololive Members only see 10% of their SC and Memberships, while and Indie like Kson sees 70%. Add to that Kson make as much Supers as the higher end of Hololive members. Granted the Hololive girls also are on a salary, something Indies do not have, but we are talking minimum wage salary level, so most of their money comes for SC, members, and merchandise.

>>18486867
She's average, which in normie terms is an 8/10, enough to get a decent following

>>18486890
she protected Kiara in the best way possible by denying that it was even about Kiara

>>18486890
I don't like Mori, but this is retarded and I hate when people bring up that Kiara SC. Why she paid any attention to it and didn't just let it get deleted or push it to the side, I'll never know. But going on a tyraid about it being about Kiara would have been even dumber. On top of that, there's almost no way she even knows about that stupid rrat.

>>18486929
you are forgetting money just from views

>>18486929
>10%
It's 35% of all spacha
This has been public knowledge since Coco told everyone
Youtube's public cut is 30%, the 70% is divided between the talent and cover

>>18481174
She improved over her old self a lot. I legit never thought that'd be possible, but she has earned some of my respect by exposing the pink bitch when she lied and also by respecting Gachikois and being constant with streaming. So glad she moved away from the god awful forced pairing she had going on with the pink whore.

>>18487100
So they only see 30$ of any aka supa?

>>18487204
in a vacuum in USD speaking yes, they only see .35 cents for every dollar

>>18486867
It's not even about the face, it's about the fact that she won't be streaming the same content or acting like the Mori they fell in love with.
>>18487100
You beat me to it. Assuming that the same comes from memberships and that the talent also earns money from view count ad cents (really almost nothing) and from merch, they take home a decent salary past just the SC number we can count.
>>18481174
Who would have guessed people would be happier with someone who obviously enjoys their job and consistently streams while also just genuinely being positive about her fanbase and the different kinds of fans who exist in the sphere. I can get why people might not like her over-girly personality, or her ESL-isms, or her accent, or her voice modulation, but she really does give a shit about the job and her fans, so she gets respect for that.

>>18471294
She barely gets any hate you fucking retard, she deserves 10x the amount.

>>18484231
Literally the same shit she was doing as coco + facecam streans - a huge pool of people to collab with - 3D

>>18485481
She's only getting a bigger cut of her supas/memberships, she can still do merch which is a big earn but the real money is in sponsorships/corporate collabs which she isn't getting. But to be fair she never got those in hololive either and even lamented that before leaving. The real "rich bitches" in hololive are FBK, marine, pekora, aqua etc.

>>18487564
well if we take other things into account, the really rich are other ones

>lied to deadbeats about not being able to stream

This is the bigger issue, not the TTshit, not anything. It a gross breach of trust, to outright lie about your status.

>>18487296
Can I has

>>18486674
Nobody here watches them. Plenty of normalfag redditors do and find out about vtubing through them which is the problem. The YT account I use is only for hololive, the only time I ever log into an account is for holos and I get TT all over my recommendations. Fuck her for inviting this cancer in with open arms

>>18487015
Kirara is a huge ego-searcher she knows.

>>18487019
YT ad revenue is pennies. Many creators have talked about this in depth

>>18488019
nah thanks to youtube premium it's real money. Pennies compared to merch, certainly, but not pennies

>>18487770
Not sure what you're arguing please elaborate

>>18485918
Yes but she wouldn;t hate being in hololive if she could do whatever she wanted in it. Anyone who is trying to make it change should be treated as if they hate it.

>>18488171
nta but rich in friendships

>>18471294
HAHAHAHA like anyone going to apologize. Keep hoping Anon

>>18488216
She has less of those too now so ok

Feels like this board just jumps from drama to drama week to week.

>>18488348
Mori is an idiot who can't communicate properly. If she only told deadbeats that "she has reaper stuff to handle" instead of saying that "normal streams aren't possible at the moment", it would've been okay.

but she had to rub it in that "haha I have my 'safespace' and I can stream anything there. Nevermind that I'll be depriving people in Holo that would be interested in streaming RCG0"

>>18488348
It does, but among the shitposting people end up developing grudges that can last years if not decades over the pettiest shit. The catalog is 50% unfiltered mental illness.

>>18488535
I know you think that you're being clever, but all posting that picture does is prove that you do not belong here and should return to where you came from.

>>18488608
Hit a nerve?

>>18488348
Yes the freedom of discussion in /vt/ is a double edge sword but it's preferable to reddit that's sanitized to the point of being a disney park

>>18488348
I'll shit on Mori when she does something stupid. This is something stupid.

>>18488682
Yes /v/ that's nice, we see you

less shitting on each other and more shitting on ecelebs pls

>>18488984
It's hard, my opinion of them can't get any lower so it spills over

>>18488746
They're kind of stupid, aren't they?

>>18488472
Envtubers aren't that professional
They have too much freedom

>>18487296
The only real one
A true idol
And a true gamer

>>18488472
Her PR ability is absolutely zero and I don't understand.

>>18486867
She's ok / average
Maybe even good looking unless she's getting fat because of the alcohol and pizza

>>18471294
I agree, she is getting off too easy.
Hate alone is too good for her.

>>18486185
I knew that after the trash taste episodes

>>18489266
She could stand to lose 15 pounds. But I’d knock her up right now honestly. Idc

>>18489230
She's absolutely tone-deaf over the overlap of her fans.

there are "reaper" fans who don't like vtubing at all, as evidenced by that guy who was in the "notmori"reddit page and spammed rrats about Mumei.

It won't be long before an actual conflict arises, and in the long run, the deadbeats will lose out.

>>18471294
I honestly find her the most cringy out of all holoen, never bothered to watch any of the 2nd gen, but I don't really care about her that much

how does she get away with it every single time

>>18471294
yes she does, because she's being a selfdestructive retard with the booze and the lashing out and all that.

>>18488206
Even then she would resent it because she has to be Mori Calliope instead of herself, and be known as Mori Calliope instead of who she really is and only be successful due to Hololive.
She doesn't want that hanging over her and to be all she is known for and as. Much like Leonard Nimoy with his book, "I am not Spock" or band members that try to split off from their band for Solo work so they aren't just a face in the crowd.
I can see that side of things and understand it, but she does handle things horribly due to her own pride, stupidity and likely due to her being an actual alcoholic.

>>18483847
Yeah, that is my outlook too. She resents that Mori Calliope is her claim to fame instead of something that she actually cares about but it's her meal ticket and she isn't going to let go of that so easily unless she thinks she has something else ready.
But I don't believe she'll hold out forever. You don't move to the other side of the world to pursue your dreams of being a jap rapper if you aren't prone to stupid dream following.

>>18487825
>the TTshit
Well she lied about that too. And probably lied about the Lean as well.

>>18491521
are all these big yabs caused simply by lying?

>>18491867
No but it magnifies every single one when you are caught in the lie and eventually gain a reputation for lying.

>>18491867
for one, the TT thing could be resolved by saying that she doesn't share their opinions even though they are friends and it is natural for them to not have the same opinion about something, and that they are free to express themselves.

>>18492010
You know that wouldn't have satisfied everyone.
Would have been better than what she actually did though, lying about it with the claim that they apologized to all the holo members only for other holos to admit they never spoke with anyone from tt.

>>18488746
>Constantly bickering about useless shit and company vs company tribalfagging
You're /v/ here, anon.

>>18492702
This is a containment board. You came here.

>>18490942
It's a recurring theme. Pic related, Mr.Ao, Mori's mixer for Off With Their Heads, expressed the same struggles.

>>18491435
You just described literally every celebrity ever. Most people just aren't cut out for it

>>18492134
She literally didn't have to do anything, just ignoring it would be better than walking hot coals to defend him

>>18492134
The context of that bit from Kiara was her upcoming collab. What do you want her to say? "Oh it's not the TT people btw C*nnor apologized to me"? Nigga holos don't circle their entire lives around /vt/ drama, not even Mori.

I wonder what would happen if the actual Mori (the character) got into this world ala RE: Creators and wanted to kill the rm because she doesn't like her.

>>18492941
No it is good that at least one of them was honest.

>>18485082
Tried to clap back at one guy who was badmouthing her gaymer skills by implying her entire audience was losers because they watch anime girls playing games. It was clipped and I saw some of her simps commenting that she was right and they need to fix their lives top kek.

>>18493093
She was right, Anon. Get over yourself.

>>18493000
You don't bring up unrelated things when the topic was about collabs. You can only come to that conclusion if you read more threads than you watch streams.

>>18493269
Get over myself for what? I posted the day it happened that she was correct. I also laughed at the copers on her saying she "didn't mean it like that."

>>18491521
Lied only that she supposedly didn't know what it was.

>>18493605
Which hampers her credibility on other things as well such as not using it.

>>18471294
She doesn't deserve hate no, but I do want her to not normalize bringing 3d people into the vtuber circle, and I dont want her to try and convince my oshi to stream on her roommate channel.

>>18493514
She probably didn't mean it like that, not because she wasn't right, but because she wouldn't be retarded enough to say it seriously.

>>18493654
Of course, you can't say you drink lean on your corporate account.

>>18486929
>10%
The percentage gets lower everytime someone brings it up. Soon they will have to pay cover instead.

>>18493713
I can understand the need to lie about that but the fact she lied so blatantly and poorly about it was an especially bad look.

Is this the fucking Mori general now? Where did all the deadbeats go?

>>18492941
>but muh context
I can't tell if you niggers are retarded or duplitious. Yes, she wasn't talking about the Mori yab, but she outright said she's not talked with anyone from TT, that proves Mori was lying one way or the other.

>>18493935
If some nigger DM'd you he's sorry or whatever, would YOU say you're in contact with him on-stream when it's not relevant at all? You don't say things you don't need to say, a lesson Mori needs to learn.

>>18471294
God I am so happy she hasn’t put her sights on my Oshi to do a „with my FRIENDS“ collab

>>18486985
fucking hell you have low standars, even for basement dwellers in her phat form she's a 4/10 at best, and in her prime might have being closer to 7/10 to a real normie standard

>>18471294
I won't apologize for my opinions about her. She's a mediocre musician and an unentertaining wannabe wigger streamer propped up by tasteless normalfags and sunken cost fallacy, with some serious flaws regarding her choice of words and handling her acquaintaces, not to mention her alcoholism which is just plain undesirable. But despite that I never anti'd her, nor did I anti anyone, so I can't apologize for that either. In other words, go choke on a dick, OP.

>>18471294
>as soon as rushia drama is over cuckbeats begin with the deflection threads again
You LITERALLY had to ignore this shit for a month and no one would care. Talk about rent free

>>18494082
I’d mating press the fuck out of her and smell her feet. I don’t know what your talking about.

>>18493862
They're lying on the floor crying somewhere, listening to the lewd moans of Mori being railed by Connor in the other room

>>18494251
at least acknowledge that you are biased because you like her personality, i'm just commenting in her physical appereance.

>>18493711
I would respect her more if it was intentional.

>>18485082
nothing of that sort. she cracked a joke about how people come into the stream and complain about lack of gaming skill are wasting their own time.

>>18494040
No. But I also wouldn't outright deny it, she went out of her way to establish that she hasn't talked with the TT people.
You're essentially saying Kiara is lying purely on the basis that Mori isn't, and I don't think I need to point ot who has the most credibility out of the two right now.

>>18493862
just look in the catalog for the most cringe inducing long winded post, sponsored by thesaurus.com

>>18494456
I think she’s a bitch in real life, I’d still do it. I’m not so shallow that I think a woman is hideous cause she gained 15 pounds or looks like your average doughy, middle America whitegirl. I still fantasize about licking her from her head to her toes. Literally.

>>18471294
>hurr mori doesn't deserve all the hate guys! y-you better apologise!!11

She has consistently demonstrated incredibly poor judgement. C'mon, use your head.

>>18471519
FPBP

>>18494640
>Someone sending a message and having them on read is "talking" now
I didn't say Kiara lied either

>>18492887
Especially if that same guy did nothing to help her in return.

>>18494829
>doesn't like her personality
>thinks she looks ugly
>would lick her from head to toe
Do you just mean that you'd fuck anything that moves...?

>>18494966
It's one or the other anon.
Mori says Connor apologized personally to all of EN.
Kiara (going out of her way) say she hasn't talked to any of the TT people.
Only one of these statements can be true.

>make this thread as a literal bait copy of the EXACT SAME THREAD with Rushia
>go to bed
>wake up
>260 replies
>everyone, antis and cuckbeats alike fall for it indiscriminately
What's wrong with you all?

>>18495031
>connor sends a message to Kiara
>Kiara doesn't respond
There you go. And that's a likely case because Kiara knows they're snakes.

>>18495065
>makes bait thread about a controversial topic
>gets replies
How are you surprised.

I still like Rushia. Mori should still be graduated. Simple as that.

>>18495108
unironical answer for once:
Rushia is an asshole for baiting all the mentally ill unicorns into her GFE scheme, but unlike mori, she's actually a good streamer who stays in character and cares about hololive. If you never cared about Rushia as a GFE, you have literally no reason to dislike her. And before the incident nobody gave a shit about Rushia's antics on /vt/. Everyone just followed the bandwagon because it's popular.

>>18495108
nah, you are wrong

>>18495065
People hate Mori so they'll take any opportunity to shit on her.

>>18495108
By how things are looking it seems like Rushia is the one more likely to graduate than Mori. That has to suck for you, pal

>>18494994
If I had to guess your bmi is over 25.

>>18495218
nothing was ever proven beyond the shadow of a doubt. both parties deny its the case. even if it was the case does it really matter? Rushia is a character and the fans don't own her personal life.

>>18495373
>Rushia is a character and the fans don't own her personal life.
this is what people will never understand

>>18494427
proof? Cuz conner is fucking another British guy

>>18495095

>>18495373
>Mori is a character and the fans don't own her personal life
same energy

>>18495268
Rushia is more likely to graduate from life. Mori is more likely to graduate from Hololive.

>>18495454
go ahead anon. do it again. im sure its a valuable time sink

>>18492887
>just ignoring it would be better than walking hot coals to defend him
This is where she went from unlikable to downright detestable: the way she bristled and blew up at that sc tells you that she actually holds the same sentiment that faggot welshtrash has not only about herself, which is well documented as her crippling impostor syndrome, but she's also projected it to all her so-called "friends" in hololive. It's one thing to think so lowly about yourself that you agree with some anti motherfucker, but to blanket your feelings of inadequacy across all the other girls to the extent that you lash out and defend their detractors is quite something else.
Not to mention her fans were insulted by the guy too, as only an idiot would spend all that money and attention on someone supposedly bereft of talent.

>>18495501
Maybe she should stop bringing her real life friends into the Mori character then.

>>18495501
yeah. mori sucks as a character too.

>>18495501
not sure if you are being sarcastic, but i also believe this regardless of not really personally finding Mori to be a very interesting streamer

>>18495373
You're right. The Rushia character is an immoral ruse to abuse and drain funds from the vulnerable.
I can look down on both the drug addict and the drug dealer.

>>18494051
>God I am so happy she hasn’t put her sights on my Oshi to do a „with my FRIENDS“ collab
I wonder about that FRIENDS shit. An inept and obvious play, probably by managment, in light of what happened to be sure but I'm more curious about her current collab partners in general.
She hangs out with the newer EN girls a lot more than her genmates. Is it only a timezone issue? Gura is an anomaly as I'd imagine that she's oblivious to what's going on or simply attempts to get along with everyone despite. That or she's pushed by management.
I just get the sense that myth as a whole is awake to her bullshit and are actively distancing themselves from her where they can while the new girls who don't know her as well are yet to be sick of her bullshit. That or it's simply a tz issue. Can't discount the fact that she's a twofaced bitch who agrees with anitubers that call hololive talentless though lmao

>>18495903
>Gura is an anomaly as I'd imagine that she's oblivious to what's going on or simply attempts to get along with everyone despite.
Gura collabs are a different thing. Mori collabs with other EN members because management forces it. She willingly collabs with Gura, because Mori's a leech and Gura has bigger sub count than her, so Mori wants a bite of that.

>>18495903
>I just get the sense that myth as a whole is awake to her bullshit and are actively distancing themselves from her where they can while the new girls who don't know her as well are yet to be sick of her bullshit.
Couldn't have put it better myself. Calli herself has said that she used to view friendships as transactional and she feels guilty and regretful for using people in the past.

The more y'all hate Mori the more money and influence she gets. It's fuckin' great. Glad that y'all rattled her enough to where she released an EP on roommate. More music is always a good thing.

>>18496036
>she feels guilty and regretful

>>18496066
>y'all

>>18496066
inb4 cuckposting kek. Antis are literally kids nowadays, name-calling? Pfff. Back in the day people will write a fucking essay on why they hate someone

>>18496066
>y'all
go back

>>18495674
>litterally describes the entire premise of Vtubing as a business model
yeah? she works for a company and is making money for herself and said company, she has an acting skill set to cater to a certain niche so she does that because its the smart fuckin' thing to do financially. Thats how entertainment works anon! were you surprised that Spiderman wasn't really Spiderman outside of the movie? did you know actors have significant others that are different from the ones in the movie? am i wrecking your world view right now anon?

>>18496165
Yep, contractions are a thing if you didn't know. Instead of typing "you all" just shorten it to "y'all".

>>18496276
Oh no, another soul who hasn't learned about contractions. You'll get there, keep on studying.

>>18496324
you sound like an English teacher.

>>18496324
See >>18496276

>>18496354
you don't belong here
go back

>>18496310
>am i wrecking your world view right now anon?
Hell no, I am well aware of the whoring. Some are far more despicable than others though. You seem to be delusional though, making excuses with inapplicable metaphors.
Sorry that you are in denial of what an addicted, manipulated, abused cuckold you are. You should give Rushia $10,000. That will really show us that you're right.

>>18496324
"You" is already plural, y'all is completely unnecessary and signals retardation.

>>18496421
Dumb fucker. You can't leave. I've been here 15 years. How much of a newfag are you to think you can just leave?

>>18496439
>She's an actress
Then she's bad at her job, taking messages from her cohabitating boyfriend in the middle of her GFE scams.

>>18496036
I can’t shake the feeling that Mori really is a bitch. Like a full blown, self centered manipulative bitch who lies to cover her ass and doesn’t actually respect the other girls. The schizo in me thinks that the /jp/ poster who warned everybody about her being a problem was really someone who knew Mori. But she made it seem like the other girls would sniff that out, particularly Ame. I wonder if it really was Kiara?

>>18496472
No, "you" is singular. See, I'm talking to you, the one person who is fucking stupid enough on this planet to think that when I say "you" I'm referring to more than just him.

>>18496324
People who actually say “ya’ll” type “you all” fool.

>>18496439
nice try anon, i don't even watch her outside of passing clips I've seen. i watch other members that cater to what i like, its just funny to me how people like you are so emotionally damaged that you cant separate entertainment from real life.

>>18471294
never

>>18496472
In every single instance where you're not clearly and directly adressing multiple people, you add a plural noun next to "You". "You all" is a grammatically correct way of doing the same.
That said, anyone who writes "y'all" here needs the rope.

>>18485082
In the guilty gear strive stream with mori, Ina said people who watch anime girls playing games are losers.
She had to issue an apology and meant to clarify that it was only about anti's, but then realized that the comment "would inflict a lot of AoE and should have worded it better"

>>18496559
>No, "you" is singular
Literally untrue, retard. You has always been plural. "Thou" is the singular. "You" was used instead because it was a show of polite speech until it completely subsumed "Thou" in the singular as well.
Look it up.

>>18486985
Anon, she existed for almost a decade with that face on her videos and it got zero views, she's even worse looking now.
She doesn't have big donors like kson to keep her afloat.

>>18496661
You are referring to "Ye" not "You".

>>18496626
"losers" never came out of her mouth.

>>18483847
I don´t disagree with most of what you said but she defnitely doesn´t need Cover for a visa anymore. She has more than enough money to qualify for the wealthy person visa to stay in Japan for many years. I miss early Mori who cried with gratitude when she received akasupas. She´s gotten far too used to her success and it shows.

>>18495903
I think it is very obvious that Mori collabs with Council and Irys more than the rest of Myth. She even talks about them differently. Bae is like a sister to her, Mumei is a friend but not with the fake school teacher inflection in friend. Mori never talks about Ina, Ame, or Kiara in a similar way. Gura is the outlier among them.

I'm just enjoying watching holoshit crash and burn

>>18496626
She never said anything about antis, it wasn't even about antis in the first place, the whole thing was essentially about backseaters being upset that they don't know how to play the game.
Which is honeslty kinda guarranted since Calli sold herself as a big Guilty Gear fan for a while, she deserves to be shat on for blatantly lying.

>>18496764
Add it to the book of lies told by Mori.

>>18496702
...You're right anon, she didn't say losers. She just rhetorically questioned whether they were enjoying life and had their act together, watching 2 anime girls playing Guilty Gear.
You fucking idiot.

>>18496797
Sorry, ran out of pages.

>>18492702
>>18488682
>>18488535
You should honestly leave the board m8, not sure why you're here, it's like posting on /po/ when you hate paper

>>18496712
that's because ina ame and kiara know she's problematic. all the unity shitposting about kiara being excluded and now it's gura and brapper that are the outsiders kek

>>18496324
>>18496354
>>18496491
Go back to twitter

>>18496550
I don't think she's s bitch to her friends
She's too confrontational and she gets swayed by emotion, if you add the alcohol then that's a problem
Also she's terrible at hiding things

>>18496704
Nope. Ye is subjective, You is Objective. The same difference between "Who" and "Whom" or "He" and "Him".
>Did ye paint the house?
>Was the house painted by you?
So technically anon should have said "ye" rather than "you" but either way "y'all" is unnecessary.

>>18496796
you won't get called out if you dont blatantly lie and take shit out of context anon. she said what you just said there immediately followed by "I'm joking I'm joking" whilst giggling. exact phrasing, tone of voice and context matter. otherwise you are being a shit stirring loser.
idiot

>>18496750
Dumb face connor will pay too don't worry

>>18496894
Do or don’t?

>>18496951
>le goalpost moving
Of course she said that. She's a fucking streamer. She would say that whether she meant it or not.
She probably WAS joking, if only because she's not stupid enough to say it seriously.
But you have to EXTREMELY FUCKING RETARDED to read that, disagree on the basis that she was joking, and decide the appropriate interjection is "AKSHUALLY SHE DIDN'T SAY LOSERS (she just described it in extreme detail)".

>>18496976
She's not a bitch, not intentionally
She's too emotional

>>18497070
>described it in extreme detail
Take meds loser

>>18496661
fan of game =\= doesn't = good at game
i love Killer Instinct but I'm absolutely dogshit at it

>>18497081
I don’t understand what you mean by bitch in this case. If she’s super confrontational, super emotional, she drinks too much and can’t hide her disdain for things, how is she NOT a bitch? Maybe you just don’t think she’s manipulative and self centered?

>>18497095
>says they don't have their lives together and aren't enjoying life by wasting their time watching anime vtubers
>"SHE DIDN'T SAY LOOOSERS"
>"actually she was joking"
>"SHE DIDN'T DESCRIBE LOOSEEEEERS"
Unironically neck yourself or throw your computer out the window. Either is an improvement to the world and your mental health.

>>18471519
fpbp and thats what im talking about.
/vt/ can be alright sometimes

>>18496960
keep dreaming holotranny

>>18471294
This but unironically

>>18497095
>>18496951
>>18496702
Saviorfagging this hard is pointless, just take the L and stop typing

>>18497070
the only goalpost moving is being done by you anon.
an uninformed anon here asked what ina said. you lied and took it out of context making it seem like Ina made an inflammatory comment to attack her viewers. now you are all
>akshully i know she was joking but ur dum for not reading between the lines
fuck off

>>18497195
She's not bad, she just literally does not know how to play the game. She doesn't play it. And she sure as hell isn't a fan of the story.
Essentially, she sold herself as a big fan of something she isn't really experienced with on the basis that she likes the aesthetics. Which isn't quite dishonest, but it's just retarded. It's like when people say they're fans of shows they haven't watched, or games they haven't played... wait, no, it's EXACTLY that.

>>18497219
seeth and cope you liar I'm alive and well

>>18496550
Some people are better than others at sniffing out bitches. I can see the true nature of people relatively quickly, and I'm usually proven right. This ability does give me full blown schizo tendencies though, which is probably why I'm here.

>>18471294
I agree, JPs are actually whores

>>18497321
Nigger what the fuck are you talking about, both the context and LITERALLY WHAT SHE SAID are there.
People were shitting on them being bad at the game, Ina shot back rhetorically asking if they were enjoying life and had their act together, watching 2 girls play together. She said she was joking, she probably was, people got upset over it, and fucking tentacle-sucking faggots bend over backwards on impossible angles to try and downplay something that was, at worst, a jab at her fanbase to begin with, because they ARE in fact fucking losers who do not have their shit together, and cannot handle a jab, with their jaws weaker than any glass.
Fucking kill yourself.

>>18497452
Have you been the same dude the whole time?

>>18497452
Stop shitting up the thread with Ina bullshit, deflectbeat. I wanna shit it up with Mori rrats.

>>18497452
>actually does a decent job of describing what happened this time without making it seem worse than it was
good job anon proud of you, should have just said all of this the first time with all of the context
brb killing myself

>>18497490
yes and im a massive repressed faggot my whole life

forgive mori guys

>>18497490
Haven't been reading all the thread, I've posted thrice about Ina.

>>18497369
>she didn't say the word loser she just described a person who could only be defined as a loser
>but she didn't SAY they were losers!!
You're being disingenuous. You're biased and clearly a tako. If that wasn't a yab she wouldn't have apologized and people wouldn't bring it up every opportunity they have to shit on Ina.

>>18496066
Shut the fuck up, Mori.

>>18496491
go back
you fool no one

>>18497683
People started bringing it up after she apologized because no one here noticed it when it actually happened.

>>18497726
Some people actually watch streams and can't afford to watch every single holo live at all times, it takes a day or two to catch up.

>>18497683
thats the funny part. im not a Tako, i find her painfully boring and uninteresting, but a nice girl none the less. its just infuriating when people spread around half-truths or their interpretations of something that was said instead of what was actually said in full context. but go ahead think what you want anon

>>18471294
Remember when all the JPs were infatuated with Mori and they all wanted to do stuff with her? Do you think she blew them off so much and was so flakey that they just kinda lost interest. Aqua’s apex killtage is the first time a JP has referenced her in a while. She didn’t even give Aqua a shout out either.

>>18497751
That's interesting because threads about it started happening immediately after she apologized but not immediately after it actually happened. It's like no one actually noticed it when it happened but once Ina later made a big deal out of it the sharks smelled blood in the water.

>>18497683
She apologized because she’s nice. She didn’t have to apologize for a throw away joke at nobody’s expense, you 300 pound faggot.

>>18497816
this is true and shit like
>>18496626
make it worse because people take what an anon says happened at face value and get mad because "INA CALLED US LOSERS!!!! BURN THE WITCH!!!"
instead of going and watching the clips for themselves and realizing it was nothing

>>18497811
Most JPs are pretty big on the whole idol thing so they probably want to avoid her like a literal plague. The few that aren't, like Towa, never gave much of a fuck about her to begin with.

>>18497811
>Remember when all the JPs were infatuated with Mori and they all wanted to do stuff with her?
Japs learn fast. They usually invited Calli to one or two collabs and after that they learned to always reply to her that they're very busy with other stuff.

>>18496036
>she feels guilty and regretful for
Did she even say that...? All I remember is that she was talking about how that's a thing she does and then she went like "Uh, but that doesn't apply to my current good friends, tehee~" or smth like that. She said it very matter of factly.

>>18498109
>Did she even say that...?
If she didn't specifically say it, she came very close to saying it. I suppose it's in the EoaL zatsudan where she explains the lyrics.

>>18498312
source: the loudest voice in my head

>>18496036
>Calli herself has said that she used to view friendships as transactional
And yet she makes songs about "haters" and "friends who aren't real friends" when she's the worst offender.
It's almost poetic

>>18496036
DYRBI or did she say that because it would make her look mature and come off as a good person?

>>18498093
I remember when Fubuki wanted to shake her hand, it was such a big deal to her that they met. I don’t think they’ve ever collabed. Funny huh?

>>18482588
Subhumans should be treated as subhumans. Simple as.

>>18498345
here's the video and clips
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5kW0Ub1xuI
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=calliope+end+of+a+life+zatsudan