/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I want to beat up Millie in front of Enna and drink Enna's cute birb tears.

niji does all of their rigging in-house, holo outsources to third parties which is why holo's rigging tend to be shitty and inconsistent

small indie company prease do the understanding

>this is expressive
niji and holo riggings are fucking archaic and terrible with very few outliers, indies have been fucking blasting the jap corpos for over a year at this point

>>18473589
who?

You know what bothers me? Why do they have legs like this?

>>18475757
normal legs

Both companies have stiff as fuck and outdated rigging. However Nijisanji doesnt rely on emotion buttons, that's for 3.0 and those expressions are extreme and have animations (tears running down the face, angry vein, etc)
You have enna who can move her eyebrows, frown, and smile, then you have Ibrahim who may as well be a PNG.

>>18473589
what does it matter for nijicucks? you want a more expressive ahegao from your oshi while they're being rawdogged?

>>18473589
Also they don't have to choose their emotion with buttons, the app tracks their face to match it. But i'm with >>18473875 on this one mainly because company apps are shit and they should use vtube studio which is way better

>>18475802
God, Enna’s design is so cool. It sort of crosses the line of obnoxiously chuuni and loops back to being really pleasant to look at.

>>18473729
This only, instead of ‘beat up’ it’s ‘impregnation sex’, and instead of Enna’s ‘tears’ it’s her breast milk.

>>18473875

>>18475854
Ex Albio is something straight out of a PowerPoint

>>18473589
They are expressive. The problem is the rigging on the new holo have too much range of motion so they look goofy

>>18475757
I've seen some women IRL with those kinda legs actually, both were short asian women in running gear
must be something to do with the calves and quads if I had to guess

>>18476399
3.0 will never help them, their models are fundementally broken

>>18476264
wow that is really not good

>>18475757
so that they won't look out of place when they become danganronpa characters

>>18476675
On the other hand, Niji's 2.5D are way better than Holo's. For example, Ange's vs Miko's

>>18473589
she does make some good expression, webm related

>>18476544
This. There's a lot of unnecessary movements. They're not supposed to be dancing across the screen or go 90 degrees just by looking slightly sideways. Mumei looking sideways makes her face look so pancaked it rivals rhombus Gura's.

>>18475854
Agree. They should really look at vtube studio or whatever it's called and try to upgrade their own software. I recently saw Miori from tsun and her rigging is super good.

>>18477198
You mean home3D? it suffers issues but Ange and Melissa utilize it better than Mashiro and Fuwa.

>>18476264
Jesus

>>18477661
>This. There's a lot of unnecessary movements.
Miyabi... Aruran...

>>18477868
Gundou model completely contorts like some she is from some horror movie and i can't tell if she knows how to break it on purpose eith a weird angle or she's just cursed

>>18473589
>Hololive riggers
no such thing. they outsource it, which is why their live 2D moves a lot more because they cost a lot

>>18473589

>>18478232
Someone post the Aruran wolf comparison lol

>>18473589
Holo rigging is not good but I can safely write off your opinion if you think this is expressive

>>18478380
She is in need of an update but 3D brushups are out, and Chronoir + Hima are too lazy to show it off so...

>>18475757
Maybe her butt hurts?

>>18473589
Nijisanji > holokeks

>>18476077
agree, though I do prefer the stripped back version

>>18476264
COVER DO SOMETHING

>>18473589
Eyes look dead, is this an autism thing? Hololive models look so good because the eyes are so genuine it's like they're actually living beings.

Niji has really weak rigs too.

>>18475757
Google "x legs". Japan.

>Another rigger cope thread when at the end of the day personality matters more than a good model.

L2d was a mistake

>>18473589

AAAAAAA I LOVE YOU ENNNAAAAA FINISH YOUR HIGURASHI CONCERT ALREADY SO YOU CAN GO BACK TO STREMING REGULARLY I NEED YOUUUUUU

>>18487790
Cant agree when outfit reveals are generally the biggest viewed streams and most chuubas incline on getting a 3d

>>18477868
Fumi's is really good too. I think it works well for people who are very animated body language wise

>>18476264
Subaru has always had some of the worst rigging imaginable. Same for Gura and Shion.

>>18473589
they are
just not all of them models since they are super inconsistent

Kiara/Ayame models are super expresive

while gura is just not

>>18487790
The expressiveness of the face is 9/10 important compared to 10/10 personality, communication relies a lot on body language and a chuuba's face is all you're gonna see unless they go full 3d.

>>18487790
Go fucking look at shylily and tell me that again.

People hate IRyS model design but her rigging is pretty good, it's very expressive and the mouth tracking is good

>>18476264
Why is this allowed? God this fucking market needs more competition so Cover would finally got their heads out of their asses.

>>18487790
How they communicate is part of their personality, and communication also depends on body/facial language. Having good rigging means you know your oshi personality better.

>>18495652
Dead eyerys...

>>18473589
pic unrelated?