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After 3 months, is do you think holoX is in position to dethrone fantasy as the Greatest Generation™, or you think gen 3 will remain the GOAT for the foreseeable future, despite the recent controversy?

>> No.18460529

>>18460475
whores

>> No.18460716

>>18460475
Gen3 died with Rushia. It will never be the same again regardless if fandeads "forgave" her. There will always be a bad taste in people's mouths when they see a gen3 collab. So yes, X is definitely in the position to do so.

>> No.18460798

>>18460475
>Cold chicken
>Mafumafu
So far at least Gen6 seems to be yab-free

>> No.18460809

>>18460716
chloe will fuck up too, mark my words

>> No.18460883

>>18460716
agreed, can't believe that out of all of fantasy, it was russia who delivered their death-yab

>> No.18461304

>>18460809
>chloe will fuck up too
then a new queen will rise

>> No.18461358

>>18460809
She is the most experienced of the bunch, it's unlikely she'll leak anything.

>> No.18461394

>>18460475
Gen3 still has 3/5 god tier holos. 4 if Rushia recovers to any level close to what she had before, and if she wants to, she will.

>> No.18461561

>>18460475
At this point Pekora and Noel are carrying 3rd Gen so hard, new outfit didn’t help Flare as much as one would hope, Marine is sinking towards Mel/Shion stream hours tier with her poor life choices and Rushia…well, anybody who hasn’t been under a rock this past week knows.

>> No.18461607

>>18461394
>3/5
this is the thing with fantasy, i think individually gen they're better, but as a package, I think society edges them out

>> No.18462028

>>18461561
marine more than carries her weight, if anything, it's her and Pekora are the faces of gen 3, even before the rushia yab

>> No.18462201

>>18461561
>New outfit didn't help Flare as much
That's because her new outfit is dogshit compared to the original. Just get rid of the floating panda if you are that scared of chinks.

>> No.18462886

>>18460475
Sankisei is basically down to 3 members at the moment. If it stays that way HoloX will easily be more important than them in a few months.
>>18462028
Marine is unfortunately streaming less than Ayame at the moment.

>> No.18463089

>>18460809
Laplus and Chloe will fuck up but they're not around the peak of their careers like gen 3. They'll have room for some growth afterwards.

>> No.18463090

Why does everyone keep saying gen3 is down to 3 members? Something else happened besides Rushia?

>> No.18463263

>>18461358
She talked about an NTR 3 way very early on in her career. That means the manager isn't in the picture. That has always been Stage 1.

>> No.18463363

>>18463090
Flare is a let down, she is not in the same league as the rest of the generation

>> No.18463450

>>18463090
Gen 3 always has been just Pekora, Marine, Noel and Rushia.

>> No.18463486

That would be Myth

>> No.18463574

>>18460475
Nice bait thread but I will answer honestly anyway
Sankisei can retire already at this point. They are starting to get old in Vtuber age. HoloX is doing a good job continuing their legacy that I think Cover specifically hire them to be Sankisei: Next Generation
Of course I do not deny that Sankisei have put the foundation for the later gen. If you were on /#/ you would know just how impressive their stream coordination are to maximize the numbers

>> No.18463645

>>18463363
She balanced it out by
>Bakatare
>Shiraken
>Recently hit it off pretty well with Kiara
She just really good at making friends and people love all the groups that have her in it. Every gen need a person like that

>> No.18463822

>>18460716
Despite all of Rushia’s paypigs, Marine and Pekora were the ones that carried the Gen on their backs.
Why Noel and Flare never took off to their levels despite being liked I’ll never know.
But ever since their inception, Gen 3 has proven the collabs are what truly runs the machine.

>> No.18463982

>>18463822
Quite funny since afaik Noel have the biggest debut number out of the gen. Looking at their number at the start and seeing how they managed to climb to where they are now make me respect them a lot. Not that I don’t like HoloX but such a big debut number being reduced to mid-tier streamer a few months later is just a shame

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18464080

>>18463982
pekora was actually 4th place in the gen for a while because she was ridiculously fucking quiet and shy. her comeback is pretty legendary

>> No.18464157

>>18461394
Marine isn't that bad.

>> No.18464711

>>18463982
For Noel, just goes to show that while Sex Sells (in the visual sense), it doesn’t last forever.

>> No.18464964

it's still way too early to tell, gen 6 debut buff ran out already and they're pretty early on on the process of actually building a solid fanbase for themselves, so they're in no position to carry anyone, they do have nice potential tho

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18465004

>>18460475
HoloX isn't even in 2nd place
So you're jumping the gun a bit

>> No.18465162

>>18460475
Gen 3 will remain above HoloX for the foreseeable future, but HoloX has the potential to surpass them eventually.

>> No.18465588

>>18460475
The fact that one gen is almost 3 years old while the other has debuted last year should tell you something.

>> No.18465594

>>18460475
it's the likeliest gen to do it. Laplus as the new Pekora, Chloe as Rushia, Lui as Flare. (Koyori was supposed to be the new Marine, but they haven't found a suitable replacement there yet.)

>> No.18465722

>>18460475
I cant even name these newbies lmao
Get real

>> No.18465849

>>18460475
Gen 3 still has bigger hits than X even if you take Rushia out of the picture, I don't see them surpassing them unless another member falls.

>> No.18466061

I like Sankisei cause they are a bunch of weird woman that somehow just get along well
https://youtu.be/pDe97FWRgFw

>> No.18466151

>>18461394
>3/5
Noelschizo is that you?

>> No.18466176

>>18465004
>1 member yab'd out of existance
>orca on sharp decline
>nene on suicide watch
i like em but gen 4's better.

>> No.18466230

>>18460475
Who cares

>> No.18466245

>>18460475
both shit on EN1

>> No.18466620

>>18464711
More that a largw portion of Noel's audience found her early on, since she had them from her roommate. Everyone else had room to grow. Her fanbase is extremely loyal. There are lots of 24+ month memberships on her channel.

>> No.18466825

>>18466245
....? ok, but we talking gen 3 vs gen 6 now

>> No.18467156

>>18466061
this
their anniversary drawing collab is genuinely the funniest multi-member collab i've watched. they have great chemistry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHqmb1ttEAw&t=276s

>> No.18467541

>>18466825
touch grass

>> No.18467864

>>18466176
NTA but gen 5 doesn't have a single weak link AND they all have amazing chemistry with each other. Even with Aloe dead, they're still a top 2 gen.

>> No.18468226

>>18463645
Yeah, she's not a favorite of mine but I do genuinely enjoy what she contributes to just about any group dynamic and I'm always happy to see her in a collab.

>> No.18468971

>>18460475
EN already did, gura alone is bigger than all of fantasy already

>> No.18471639

>>18462028
You’re missing my point, WHEN Marine streams SHE IS Big, Yes.

BUT Marine’s stream hours are going down the tubes towards Mel, Shion and Ayame hours.

Her Quality hasn’t diminished but her Quantity is tanking hard towards the bottom tiers.

>> No.18475435

>>18460475
ID3 is coming

>> No.18475665

I enjoy HoloX a lot, but you can't just overthrow 2.5 years of built fanbase in 3 months
I do see them reaching current 3rd gen level in due time though

>> No.18475691

Myth is the best Generation, you effeminate beta cuckold.

>> No.18475986

>>18475691
Myth cannot even manage a single full gen collab without it being cringe.

>> No.18476188

>>18475691
not anymore they declined so hard they cant even pass 10k viewers per stream apart from Gura and even her cant compete with Pekora, Marine and Rushia pre yabe numbers.

>> No.18476194

>>18463090
Marine's throat is completely fucked and she'd probably need 2-3 months break to get it back together.

>> No.18476255

>>18471639
what happened to her? still having throat issues or why is she not streaming anymore?

>> No.18476820

>>18471639
stream hours doesn’t matter CCV, VOD views gets you the fame.

>> No.18477647

>>18463450
Noel is nothing without her delicious tits. She's getting carried by those sexy melons.

>> No.18479275

>>18465594
Iroha does remind me of Noel in some ways.

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18481139

>>18460716

>> No.18481187

>>18476255
Pretty much, less stream hours doesn’t mean less work on other endeavors for Hololive. She is seeing a vocal coach to help but her condition is like a roller coaster.

>>18476820
Going by your logic, do you believe Ayame is more important and the face of Gen2 over Subaru and Aqua?

>> No.18481830

>>18481187
Ayame
Total
solo streams 5
collab streams 1
offcollab streams 1

you tell me

>> No.18482200

>>18477647
>She's nothing without this thing she'll always have
Okay?

>> No.18482561

>>18481830
Ya that’s my point, even if she pulls in a big crowd, Ayame streams so irregularly that it impacts and lessens her ‘fame’ amongst Gen2.

Similarly, if Marine’s life choices continue to cause her to stream irregularly…6 months from now…a year from now…two years from now…it won’t matter if Marine pulls in 30k ccv, her ‘fame’ will take the same hit that Ayame has taken.

>> No.18484126 [DELETED] 

>>18460798
>He forgor laplus leaked Botan new outfit druing collab

Clipwatcher

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18484237

>>18460475
>is do you think holoX is in position...

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18484536

>>18460798
>He forgor laplus leaked Botan outfit during collab

>> No.18485362

>>18484536
she should been thankful that it was Botan

>> No.18485837

>>18460475
Gen 3 is already finished
Pekora slowly bleeding views
Flare has never really been relevant other than Noel yuri bait
Marine damaged throat and less streaming from her even though she's still fighiting with shorts content and radio shows with FBK
Noel has been doing less AMSR both "Noels"
Rushia (self explanatory)

Lapchan will be on guard after the Botan incident
Chloe has not done anything idiots crying over her talking about NTR are stupid as Marine has said far worse with her doujin talk
Everyone holomem will be careful after Rushia's fuck up, Holox will now be the model gen

>> No.18490822

>>18485837
Iroha's the anti-Marine, the most seiso yet 2nd highest numbers for HoloX.

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