/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Comfy!

>>18272416
not for long :)

looks like bacon

>>18272220
Hylo left because she fucked Sei.

>>18273835
Shut up Sei

>>18273835
wrong person right rrat

>>18273923
She fucked connor?

>>18273957
she fucked the person here who wanted to get her addicted to french kissing

I love this slime like you wouldn't believe.

Rate the slime stream

How is Lumi doing? I don't watch Twitch but let her have my free Prime sub.

>>18274533
Comfortable chatting, typical Menace cooking/10. I like hearing her stories and thoughts on things.

I called Lumi a dork
She called me paypig

>adopts mannerisms of and content from a thread from a 2view chuuba
lol u stupid bitch

>>18276739
?

Spoonfeed me, hells up with hylo leaving and saying she’s now happier then ever. Did something happen with her?

>>18277119
Nobody knows

What sexual position would you prefer to ream your oshi in? My personal preference is doggystyle
inb4 dog mention[/spiler]

>>18277119
Turns out the rumored black company was a black company.

>>18277218
it's okay hylo, whatever you say. That's why everyone else is happy in the company and doing extremely well!

>>18277210
Face to face, hugging, while bullying her into not closing her eyes.

>>18277210
>>18277820
Name your girl.

>>18272220
I love Lumi like you wouldn't believe

>>18278455
First anon, and I was just talking hypothetically to derail. I'm too much of a pussy to unironically speak ill of those I look up to

>>18278455
>>18277820

>>18277218
ogey hylo

>>18278714
Imagine her voice and the noises she would make.

https://twitter.com/AmarisYuri/status/1492742752139988996 CUTE

>>18276739
That 2view has art made by fucking walfie of holo fame.
Koragi is the sleeping giant. A day will come when the entire world will kneel.

Hear the words of prophecy:
>The wolf and the lamb shall pasture together, and the lion shall eat hay like the ox— but the serpent's food shall be dust.

Everyday until Chapipi sings Liberame from Hell

>>18282330
I'm cheering for you ritualposting Chapipibro

>>18282649
I'm fine with waiting as long as it takes. It will just make it more special when it actually happens.
But above all right now I just wish her to recover soon!

Was Menace always a coomer?

>>18282841
There is no such a thing as western seiso woman except fundamental christians and they just hide it better
Ask abigail fans

>>18282841
I didn't watch her PL, but she came out as a coomer in her debut stream when she mentioned liking Nitro+ VNs as her favorite games, esp Saya no Uta

>>18282841
You mean the shorts? She literally said it's the best way to game youtube's shitty algorithms.

>>18283000
She made her original model in Koikatsu Party.

>>18283000
>Saya no Uta
SAYA NO UTA IS THE GREATEST LOVE STORY OF OUR TIME AND I WILL NOT LET IT BE SLANDERED AS MERELY COOMER PORN

>>18277119
She's happy she doesn't have to be a team player, or do collabs and events, and she doesn't have to compare herself to the far more successful and loved members. Happy she managed to milk Cyberlive and run away with the benefits.

>>18283157
ok misaki

>>18284091
This is so obviously a larp anon

Misaki wife....

>>18283120
I'm a fan of another VN that is slandered as Coomershit, but if someone listed VNs with a solid focus on guro & other decently out there fetishes I'd assume they were a coomer. Doesn't mean the VNs aren't good.

So Panda really did cave in and is pandering to coomers. Poor girl realized that the world is a cruel place where you can't be an idol while being a 2view

Blah blah semi-detached ironic comments about Chip's exposed belly, et cetera. I miss her, and I hope she's recovering well

If Inori keeps doing coomerbait she might abuse the algorithm and can only last for a few weeks. The algorithm cant catch up with her spam short clip. She's going to be like Reina Sun/Rinkou Ashelia

>>1827721
One of two things
>Grabbing her hips from behind and then bending her over the kitchen table and just doing it like she completely belongs to me
>Sweet and loving missionary or cowgirl with constant kissing and deep looks into her eyes

>>18286520
>>18277210
Deleted the zero by accident

God I want to date Menace & push her to better herself until she considers herself to be marriage material, then marrying her and kiving a happy, fulfilling life with her.

Do any of you like the turtle Michelangelo?

>>18281009

Why does CyberLive get so much hate around here?

>>18287554
what the fuck are you talking about

>>18287704
Like on /vt/ in general I mean I've seen many disrespectful comments in the other corpo threads

>>18287742
blame Hylo.

why is menace so purple

>>18287742
Hylo's the main reason behind every bad reputation about CL comes from.

why is emma so blue

>I just now realized because of felti that I was subscribed to the twitch of Menace’s past life and who she is
How the fuck am I this retarded

why is yuri so white

>>18277338
>>18277338
does lumi and misaki and her bf suck you off?

>>18283157
ok misaki

>>18285407
Rinkou Ashelia dropped off because she has 200 mental breakdowns a day and has really fucked up stream schedules. cancels 80% of her streams

>>18288890
>>18288319
ok yuri

>>18289011
Sorry to whoever thought this was Pan, I'm just another fan

>>18289731
Phase gen 2 will probably propel Phase to no.1 if they get some high quality girls. As Phase is right now there's too many menheras and I bet Kevin's having an insane time dealing with them.

>>18289847
Bros, why do men have to deal with women...

>>18285407
seems to be working so far. she's going to be the second person to hit 20k after Emma and she was barely over 10k subs a week or two ago

All times UTC

13:00 - Pandora YGO Master Duel
https://www.twitch.tv/utanopandora

15:00 - Lumi AOE 4 with Moon Jelly, Peari and Nina
https://www.twitch.tv/kanekolumi

02:00 - Valentines Showdown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02dYFBeQVw4

>>18290484
For the 2hrs you got, sleep well Lumi.

>>18277210
Doggystyle with Pandora's arms tied behind her back and her wearing nothing but a collar and a leash for me to pull on to give her a quick choke.

Here to ask you fags to sub to Misaki (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPXwReYYAchBkbO6mzLrq9g))
I love Chip. I love Misaki. I love Ninaninnininininin. I love Lumi. I love Yuri. Tell me why I'm wrong, or tell me why I'm rights I actually don't care

>>18289011
good night yoki!

>>18289240
Want to give me a name or link? would love to check it out.

>>18289240
>>18295217
It was mentioned like a hundred times

hop in here for the collab
>>18298648

>>18295217
It's really obvious.

>>18297676
I only live on the board sorry anon, any chance for a hint or..?

>>18299432
I guess I'm just retarded because I don't know?

>>18300191
Look up her rigger friend and you'll find her easily.

>>18300191
Case in point, I meant "I don't live on the board, sorry anon", I should go back to sleep.

>>18287742
>Hylo suggested paying back early supporters, which resulted in "donation rewards for debut" yab
>Hylo tweeted out a joke about Ria being dead, blacklisting CL from collabing with the other small corpos and especially pissing off Tsunderia
>Hylo noticeably lags behind and then graduates to go full indie, suddenly starts acting like she's free of a great burden
She hasn't done anything malicious, but it is kind of obvious why so many people here blame Hylo for CyberLive's problems.

Non-Hylo-created yabs
>Early trailer ripped off VShojo
>Hylo and Yuri models/characters originate from another startup that got bought out
>Rrat that said startup had the CEO dating an underage manager(if you think it's the same people running CL, that's unconfirmed)
>Lumi menhera & divegrass arcs where she pissed off a lot of Goslings
>Lumi's head mod got removed for being a former doxxschizo
>Sakana & Urara had a manager stream where they said to watch out for companies too good to be true; listed things that CyberLive offers but never explicitly mentioned them.
Overall there's a lot of stuff giving CL a bad rep, but I think they're solid. The very fact that Hylo is being allowed to graduate with all of her assets, as was promised of early auditions, without issue is itself a pretty good sign that CyberLive has good intentions.

I only wish gen 2 was less focused on GFE.

>>18300258
>gen 2 was less focused on GFE
I liked gen 2 a lot, but I can't deal with this much GFE. Yuri is streaming earlier now so at least I can watch her again

>>18300258
I believe someone asked Misaki how old she is in discord last week and she said she was in her late 20s so that underage manager seems to be part of the old company rrats.

>>18300235
She has two, @IamHibachiMan @gezudayo but I'll take the hint and look around for a bit while I have my coffee. Thanks anon

>>18300258
>former doxxschizo
The Kiki thing was after he was removed, the doxxschizoing never ends

>>18300258
>Sakana & Urara had a manager stream where they said to watch out for companies too good to be true; listed things that CyberLive offers but never explicitly mentioned them.

I think that's more them just being pissy CL has shown that you don't need to take 50% from earnings and have a million fuck-you rules like prism to succeed. If CL is making money while giving freedom I don't see how that isn't a win-win.

>>18300258
>Hylo tweeted out a joke about Ria being dead, blacklisting CL from collabing with the other small corpos and especially pissing off Tsunderia
Not to throw you guys for a timeloop but why was this such a big deal exactly? I'm new to this general and it seems like a nothingburger to me.

>>18300618
>Kiki thing
If you mean V*rialposting that happened much earlier and had to do with Kiki having her steam notifications turned on.
Also Kiki is a piece of shit whore playing literal mentally ill men for money and incapable of any sense of tact. There's a reason nobody collabs with her anymore

>>18300722
It is a nothingburger but other corpos used it as an extra reason to hate CL and blacklist them.

Watch Lumi and friends instead of talking about gay drama

>>18300722
It's just typical taboo nonsense regarding past lives. If you aren't heavily invested in kayfabe it's a nothing burger, if you're a full-on believer in vtubers needing to play a character then it's a big taboo to break. Also doesn't help that Ria has been accused of being a snake herself for leaving the company so early.

>>18300865
Don't you guys have a thread up for that

>>18300384
Im glad Emma and Yoki are not GFE, Chapipi, Menace and Inori are hardcore GFE. This is why I only watch Emma and Yoki

>>18301267
They're both GFE, anon. Yoki and Emma both did date streams.

>>18301267
>Emma
>not GFE
lol. so what do you think she is, a prostitute? she farms coomers more than everyone, which is why she's at 43k subs right now.

>>18301442
Yoki feels like she tries to be GFE but isn't really good at it. She gets a pass imo

>>18301267
>Inori
Her bait shorts don't really compare with the zoomer gremlin mode in her streams. She's really not GFE.

>>18301691
She's still GFE.

>>18301765
She's both, she switches on and off during streams

>>18300722
CL at the time was new on the block, had unproven talents and reputation and already had preexisting sketchiness from mistakes like accidentally copying vshojo's trailer by paying a bad editor and etc. Now CL's just as big as the others within the few months it's been around so they really cant ignore them anymore.

>Yuri will never make this pose in front of you
>She will never dangle her foot back and forth and ask you to take off her shoe
>She will never giggle at you as you gently pull it off her
>She will never reward you by holding her foot up to your face and telling you to give it a kiss
>You will never lightly kiss each and every toe of hers while she laughs at you
>She will never pull her foot away and raise the other leg so that you can do the same to the other foot

>>18295217
did you find it because i'm lost!
>>18297676
>>18299432
>>18300235
>>18300395
I think I'm stupid because even with hints I'm lost, any chance somebody can spoonfeed me? kek

>>18300844
>>18300948
>>18301883
So in conclusion the other corpos banded together to destroy a competitor while they were still small? And they go around calling Cyberlive a black company??

>>18301979
Dude... literally just go to the threads around when she debuted, it was the only thing people would even talk about for a while

>>18302014
well is it banding together to destroy a competitor when all they did was ignore them?
All it did was force CL to find it's own audience which helped them out in the long run compared to the other corpos that share the same small corpo audience.

>>18301979
Green

>>18301267
Yoki said she'll be your wife, sister, mom or whatever you want, dude.

>>18301442
>both did date streams.
I feel like most vtubers have done date streams at points, even non GFE ones

>>18302788
The term GFE has become very nebulous by now, so everyone injects their own meaning into it. Date streams are definitely GFE but that doesn't make that person a GFE-centered chuuba. It's a simple distinction to make.

>>18301979
Her PL doesn't have any vods left so don't bother looking anon. Isn't worth the time as she was a 2view nobody with no clips either.

>>18301556
>Doing coomerbait doesn't mean she's a GFE or prostitute. Being a GFE is all about how you treat your viewers. I don't see Emma treat her viewers like her boyfriend much unlike Menace and Chapipi who always flirt around. Emma gets to 43k subs not only from shorts but also from her connection boost. You better watch her more before you judge her

>>18304940
Emma does do that. She does Mommy GFE and talks to her viewers closely before ending stream. You can't pick and choose what you want to be considered GFE.

Doing coomerbait doesn't mean she's a GFE or prostitute. Being a GFE is all about how you treat your viewers. I don't see Emma treat her viewers like her boyfriend as much as Menace and Chapipi who always flirt around. Emma gets to 43k subs not only from shorts but also from her connection boost. You better watch her more before you judge her

>>18305157
I can agree that there is some distinction between coomerbait and pure GFE but she still plays into being your virtual crush all the same, as far as im concerned. It's just that Emma's variation of it is the "I'm your dommy mommy, gonna step on you" but more ditzy, rather than the submissive idealistic representations by Menace and Chapipi. She's not subverting the genre in any way

So what restrictions did Hylo have that made her want to be indie?
She's much happier now, but Lumi and Yuri always seemed to do whatever random thing they want

>>18305157
But anon, bitching about vtubers we don't watch is the /vt/ way

>>18305348
They didn't allow her to offer paid dating services

>>18305348
She had to use cunny voice at all times.

>>18305393
>if you pay her enough, you can actually get her addicted to french kissing instead of just posting about it on a laotian rewritable dvd creation forum

>>18305471
is that it, that seems like something you could get lifted if you approached it the right way?

>>18305348
If I had to guess, most likely she disliked having to fulfill a quota in terms of hours streamed per week/month or something like that. Maybe she just didn't enjoy that pressure and forcing herself to stream, so she wants the freedom of doing it whenever she wants. When you're employed you have to meet certain standards, even if it's not written anywhere.

>>18305637
she now has a full week posted now, but I'm glad that she is happy

It's weird because she was the loudest defender of CL but if she's happier as indie then good luck to her

>>18305706
Well she just went indie, it will take a while for us to see if she is consistent or if this is just her riding a high before disappearing for 2 weeks. It's just my headcannon after all.

>>18305637
>quota in terms of hours streamed per week/month
you now remember Seina

>>18305637
That's the craziest thing, she took a long hiatus of months and only started streaming regularly recently when even during the early days of CL she wasnt as consistent as she is now. They've pretty much gave her a lot of leeway until she's now free and she streams more than ever.

>>18306129
You'll see Seina in Panda's chat
Seina is the truly forgotten one as the only time anyone watched her is in collabs as she streamed primarily in Spanish

>>18305348
She didn't like having to collab or contribute or do anything that wasn't one of her random whims. Same thing with Kana from Tsunderia, except minus the success and some of the brain damage.

>>18305786
It's honestly weird, but I choose to believe that while there's probably some sort of schism, neither party is likely to be acting malicious.

>>18306728
>random whims
H large part of Cyberlive is doing thing on random whims though

So who's next, Pandora or Seina? I feel like panda has a chance to survive but Seina might have more viewers already if she streams more.

>>18306831
Yeah but she wanted ONLY random whims, not collabs, quotas, or otherwise contributing to things beyond herself.

>>18306900
Seina's probably gonna be okay once her IRL trouble is over. I doubt Pandora's gonna leave since Cyberlive gives her a lot of support and she's gonna struggle even more as an indie anyways.

Honestly think we'll see gen 3 come in before CL's structure changes again.

>>18306193
Some people just feel more creative when they don't have an obligation towards an employer hanging on their conscience. Maybe it's not about the amount of hours she streams, but to me she seemed like the carefree type who doesn't enjoy working.

>>18306900
Pandora has no reason to quit and the only thing that really hurts her is the fact that she works 10 hour days and her weird stream times as they are jst

>>18307497
also the fact that she has a top tier singing voice but due to living in japan apartments with thin walls she cant go full karaoke.

>>18307097
I really feel for her, even though I wish she would've stayed. I'm exactly the same way where turning something into a job instantly ruins my motivation for it.

https://twitter.com/AyaneHylo/status/1492915874189225987
tummy hort

>>18307071
What structural changes would they even make?

>>18308062
Dunno, maybe someone graduating again or adopting Vera the gen 2 manager into Cyberlive officially or something.

>>18305348
Lumi continually sexually harassed Hylo by sending Hylo dick pics amd refused to allow collabs until Hylo sucked Lumi off

>>18308150
Oh I thought you were talking about internal structural changes to management or hiring process or something

>>18308555
Im just a viewer, why would I know enough about them to speculate about that?

Becoming a less bitter & jaded person because that is what Menace would want from you!

>>18308592
being a viewer hasn't stopped people here from speculating about the egg count of each talents' uterus

look at this star

lmao Peari

Favourite stream by each of them for someone to get a good idea of their style and personality?

>>18301908
Are you going to be posting this on the /FEET/ thread or something?

>>18312232
Maybe I will.

>>18277218
ogey hylo sure

>>18301908
anon please, i don't wanna be a footfag and i don't want to be a yuri gosling either

>>18312511
You WILL fall in love with the cat.

>>18301908
those shoes remind me of those disco shoes with fish in them.
Can some edit the picture and add goldfish in the lightblue part?

>>18312604
No, I fell in love with her wife, who is a nigger

>>18313231

>>18300706
How do you know cl is making money? Shouldnt the other corpos have a better idea? We are noticing cl slowing down considerably in the shit they provide for the chuubas. Yuri had to pay for her own rig. Website outdated. No more company owner cover/song releases and etc. Based on numbers alone the girls at cl have to make 3 times more donations than prism, tsun or phase to even have the same revenue as a company.

>>18313754
I honestly doubt CL is making money, but I also doubt they are losing it either.
Honestly the are doing okay gaining new viewers, but that doesn't equal people dropping money either.
The biggest problem with vtubing as a business model for smaller companies is that it seems that a large amount of the money comes from oil barons

>>18313754
Yuri did not have to pay for her own rig. She paid for the extra stuff she wanted to surprise her managers with. I don't see the decline you are seeing, as Lumi and Misaki have mentioned many times that they have a lot planned for 2022. It is more likely that things are in production right now. New models/assets don't come out overnight.

>>18313754
Where did you get the idea Yuri paid for her own rig?

>>18313754
Yuri did a song literally yesterday called Moon and Back. Lumi did a Winter Wonderland cover a month ago and recently (like a day ago) provided vocals for another production with Lone Alpha,
Yuri had a new model/outfit and no, she did not pay for her own rig, I don't know where you're getting that from.
Any other lies you want to tell? What part of Cyberlive is slowing down exactly?
>the girls at cl have to make 3 times more donations than prism, tsun or phase to even have the same revenue as a company.
Lol. For models and rigs that cost a fraction of what Prism/Phase invests in theirs? Delusional

Hylo did nothing wrong

>>18313347
that's the intern
the real lumi is black

>>18300386
>believes in anything the subject in question says whole heartedly.
Life must be so simple for people born without a brain.

>>18315706
>>18314555
How much koolaid are you guys on to be missing the obvious slowing down? Of fucking course Lumi and Yuri are doing songs they are the 2 from Gen1 that are arguably doing okay. Do you see CL doing it for others? Besides the ones at the beginning?
>Lol. For models and rigs that cost a fraction of what Prism/Phase invests in theirs? Delusional
Admits the low quality. Agrees with statement. Yet somehow tries to argue the point. Are you also one of those anons who argues that CL has good quality models?

Not sure anymore if you guys are just drunk on koolaid or blind af or working for cl or just overall dumb

Oh well, looks like the /tsun/ tribals are coming out of the woodwork, again.
Shame, your whore of a slug manager should pay you with more than with miori gfe shorts, if they want better-than-shit trolling

Every thread until Chip returns

>>18315997
Lmao. Go back to your containment thread bro. Peddle this shit somewhere else. Good luck with your corpo

>>18315706
>>18314555
kek. Finds one small detail that might be mistaken. Goes ham on it as if it proves a point. Meanwhile misses the entire point. Is this the average braincell level of anons?

Why do people here always try to shit on Prism when Prism never seemed to have anything against Cyberlive?

>>18316192
>/clg/

>>18316030
Honestly how can small corpos even be tribalists considering how often they collab? besides Cyberlive

>>18315997
go back to /tsun/ and /kwg/, triplenigger

>>18316192
Is it kawaii, prism or both where the general don't like their own company because of issues with management?

>>18316213
in the other threads I usually see the small corpos supportive of each other so I think it's just an issue here...

>>18316213
slugma literally feeds her ego by shitting on Cyberlive, what are you talking about?

>>18315997
Sumi's model was probably over 10k and she left. It's a bad business model to have expensive models for no reason when CyberLive's look fine.

>>18316273
I highly doubt /kwg/ would be shitting up a thread considering they have to focus on keeping their general alive.
I do hope Lumi gets Reina if they ever do another AOE4 collab

>>18316124
Kiamm....

>>18316292
Probably prism, even some of the streamers have been pretty public about the bullshit management in the past. Kawaii sounds at least a bit better from what I heard though I haven't watched as much of them myself besides Nene a few times.

FYI while this guy was shitting his diapers Inori hit 20k subs on Youtube I imagine Menace will get it next week too

>>18316365
She namedropped her during the stream, one can only hope.

>>18316365
um, based?
only company i have an issue with is tsunderia lmao

>>18315997
Pandora's last cover was literally 13 days ago, and Gen 2 came out two months ago. Has it ever occurred to you that if gen 2 wanted to do song production of any sort, they have to both be wanting to do so, and production would take a moment?

>>18316391
Yeah she called her the queen of walls which is why I mentioned it

>>18316343
Well at this point they obviously can't cheap out on new gens and have them look like shit compared to all the old ones. I think the Sumi thing kind of took everyone by surprise anyway, nobody really expected someone to bail that soon like that but I'm not sure what they can really do to prevent it either. I doubt contract stipulations help much since it's hard to force someone to keep streaming against their will so the companies usually seem like they just voluntarily release people from their contracts when they ask anyway most of the time I see it come up.

Ok just look here. CL is shit as a company. They don't know what they are doing. Management did some stuff but none of it was even worth anything. Early release of 3D? Covers/Music without any push into the market? Adding on the yabs near debut and the rrats. CL is simply an incompetent company.

The chuubas doing the best are Lumi and Emma, who got to where they are through personal efforts like networking and coomerbaiting shorts.

Lumi deserves a company that can support her better. Not the opposite where she becomes a manager and fucking helps with putting out fires. You look at PC, their talents are so fucking bad when it comes to networking and socializing. Half of them don't even talk to other chuubas. How do they have subs and viewers? Company fucking support.

All you anons trying to defend CL is fucking delusional.

>>18316524
>PC
>Managers helping
>Pippa
RUMAO

>>18316524
As far as I can tell none of the companies really support their talents all that much. Even the big league ones like holo/niji mostly seem to just leech their money and provide the brand name and a few connections for them in exchange. Besides that talents usually are on their own.

>>18316524
>Lumi deserves a company that can support her better
Name it faggot

>>18316585
The continued existence of Pippa alone is management helping. Hylo is 1000% less yab than Pippa and she's gone.

>>18316492
Hiring competent people that aren't in high school because they're too naïve and won't read their contract is a start, I think.

>>18316585
Support and tard wrangling are different and honestly internet drama won't really hurt anything as proven by famous youtubers committing almost criminal acts

>>18316691
It's not like a 22-year-old girl is gonna be much smarter than an 18-year-old girl. And the Hololive model of hiring hags doesn't work in the west.

>>18316672
Hylo chose that herself. Pippa will be fired because she's bringing her company down with her. Sure, she has numbers and donos but their reputation has ties with Kiwi and real life YouTube drama now. It's not longer a VTubing only company. Fuck Pippa for ruining it for them.

Stop giving the retard (you)'s, he's obviously baiting for attention

>>18316524
if you're gonna use another company at least put an effort to say someone decent not one relying on 1 /here/ talent. It

Stop replying to bait retards.

>>18316652
Kawaii

>>18316590
CL did some things for the talents but not in the right way. Sure they bought Lumi a PC, but Phase does that too. In fact fishman bought everyone in gen1 an iphone, and other stream gears.

The small corpo space is more competitive when it comes to the company support compared to the big names.

>>18316524
So what brought on this certain need to be a cringey faggot all of a sudden?
We are getting constant shorts, new model, new music video, big collab, another big collab tonight, and a driven new gen.
Nothing is even going wrong right now besides Hylo leaving and it seems like that was the best choice for her and Pandora still helped her get updates for her model

>>18316716
They chose to hire her. That's management's fault. She's a drama magnet but she's the only reason why they're relevant besides Tenma. Why isn't their Japanese branch doing well?

>>18316524
See >>18316590
CL is automatically the best small corpo simply for offering better terms. You can pretend like offering 3D & support for covers is "nothing", but its always been on the talents to actually use these tools to succeed. Yuri went ham with 3D skits & shorts, while Hylo has barely used her 3D at all(not without reason, but still). CL can give the tools & support to the talents, but its on the talents to actually use them. Expecting otherwise is retarded.

>>18316806
do your reps

As if CL isn't relying on 100% coomerbait material for their new gen.

As if CL doesn't have even more members /here/

>>18316827
This thread deserves it for having so many retards that bite babby's first bait.

>>18316846
I don't think Pippa being a drama magnet is really a bug, but rather an intended feature at this point. PC is obviously playing with fire here but it seems like they've chosen to encourage her antics since they obviously bring numbers if nothing else and haven't splashed back on them too hard yet. I'll honestly feel kind of bad for her if they wind up throwing her under the bus if/when shit does finally hit the fan though.

>>18316870
Why would someone willingly leave the best small corpo?

The duality of the anons on this board is mind baffling.

> we save money on models! so our quality is great!
> we have the best quality models!
> we are the best corpo with the best terms no body can refuse!
> we also have talents who want to leave the corpo and become indie!
> we offer support as management!
> we don't do anything to resolve conflict and we have a member leaving!

>>18316949
Pippa's biggest problem has never been the internet drama, her problem is that why she was inclining or every time she was growing she purposely shot herself in the foot and hampered her own growth

>>18316524
Its amazing how you get replies for this every time. Here's one more.

>>18317072
She thrives off of internet drama what are you on? She can hardly go a full stream without mentioning something about it.

>>18317062
Don't forget

> we are professional!
> we also copy other people's videos!

>>18316524
All companies have flaws anon. You are delusional if you are comparing different company structures to one another. The model isn't following hololive by design, so comparing it to one is quite dumb. I typed out some counterarguments but I won't send them to be labeled a company shill but I will say this. All companies are quite equal support-wise. They are doing work the audience doesn't see and the cut the company gets is payment for those services. Given the low CL cut, I would say at the very least it is fair for what they are given which is what it should be. They get to keep it all if they want out really no harm here.

>>18316932
I think it's more the fact that how often that they get shit on or drama happening everyone has grown hyper defensive and aggressive

I want to mating press Yuri!

>>18316833
>Lumi hates GFE
>Lumi does most of her networking on Twitch
>Lumi plays a huge variety of games without needing to worry about permissions
>Lumi constantly interacts with regulars & voicechats with fans on Discord
>Lumi is getting 3D
>Lumi already has alt outfits
>Lumi released an OG song within a couple of months
Yeah I'm sure she'd be happy at Kawaii where she'd be expected to rely on GFE-coomer shorts, not get any assets or support for months, be unable to network with friends, forced to not talk to fans, and just generally be made into an emotional prostitute. Big brain anonchama.

>>18317128
I never said she doesn't talk about internet drama I just said it wasn't a problem, because if it was people wouldn't of made successful careers out of it

>>18317154
Finally some reasonable stuff. I agree, and the on going problem here on out is given CL's low cut, the amount of support they want to and can provide in the future is very limited. For someone who's performing it's not an issue. But for someone like Pandora it will be rough

>>18316932
I know that /vt/ is newfag central, but still.

>>18317166
I wrote this, but more lovingly & intimately worded.

>>18313347
Imagine Lumi's slender girly finger shoved up your asshole and tickle my prostate...

>>18317277
I will rape your oshi

>>18317305
Felix...

>5 hours till next stream
Guess this thread will be shit until then

we are a professional company!

> we let ourr talents become coomerbait sluts!

I get it helps with the algorithm, but this is just not a great look for a company I'm afraid. One or two maybe sure. But a whole line up of talents doing it?

>>18317166
I want to squish that cat with my body weight and penis!

>>18317224
I think it's definitely not a problem yet... But whether it will become one in the future remains to be seen. I can easily envision her kicking the wrong beehive one of these days and inviting a lot of persistent harassment/doxxing/etc back onto PC, and even if that doesn't happen I think we're already kind of seeing a spiral of escalation where people tune into her streams specifically because they see dramafagging shit, and expect her to keep going or go even further if they're going to keep watching, so she's going to wind up with a very certain type of audience after a while that will make it difficult for her to pivot away from this kind of persona if she ever decides she wants to...

>>18317363
They are not a real company anon. They are indie+ with the best contracts for indies. But for some reason indies are wanting to leave too

>>18317363
Now you are not even trying with your bait.
Fucking Mio and Kawaii are filled with coomer and GFE shorts, it's just business and attracts youtube's gay ass algorithm

>>18316754
>It's not like a 22-year-old girl is gonna be much smarter than an 18-year-old girl.
Granted, I didn't date when I was out of college since I was a retard in STEM & needed time to study (+ after that gravitated to 25+ women), but I was way more mature at 22 than I was at 18. Those 4 years help a lot whether you're in school or working.

>>18317363
It's what the audience wants.

>>18317363
We don't think about the whomegaluls from other corpos here, sorry. The future is Indonesian

>>18317363
>whole lineup
>Yoki isn't doing it
>Chapipi isn't doing it
>Seina isn't doing it
>Hylo wasn't doing it
>Pandora only just started (but she is a numberfag)
>Lumi and Yuri barely do it (usually in meme ways)

Emma Inori and Menace are really the only leading the charge to an aggressive degree which when you see how well it works out for them can you blame them? Inori climbed 10k in the past week.

>>18317410
>wrong beehive
The last stream she just did was on the most vindictive and retarded man in the internet drama sphere, so if she stays safe from that she is cleared for good

>>18317423
from what I've seen the other talents are happy an some have made it a point to openly express on stream that they don't plan on graduating any time soon.

>>18317522
They were posting her doxx in her chat as she was streaming.

>>18317410
She also got PC permanently blacklisted by hololive and probably nijisanji too since all these Japanese CEOs talk and play golf and shit together regardless of being the competition.

Not that they're really big enough for it to matter yet, but some day they might regret burning that bridge.

>>18317423
Bait but my oshi Menace said last night she is the happiest she has ever been and loves her company. Very comfy stuff if you haven't seen.

>>18317600
>blacklisted by hololive
They kind of stopped streaming with smaller creators after they got really big.
It still happens sometimes, but it's not like the old days

how long till Emma or Inori hit 100k on Youtube? 2-3 months? half a year?

why hylo was allowed to keep her model when going indie??

>>18317386
stop being fat

>>18317503
>>18317702
>>18317651
Looking forward to one of them pulling a Rushia

>>18317859
>4'7
>40kg
doesn't take much to squish that cat

>>18317900
Dude, imagine. They'd get even bigger from that controversy. Let's hope it happens to my oshi.and the reddit/twitter brigade come raiding her streams with donations.

>>18317945
cuckchads can't stop winning

>>18317363
Menace has openly acknowledged on stream that the shorts are exactly that, bait. It's just a bit to game the algorithm and it's done with full transparency. Don't take it as something it's not.

>>18317900
Menace would never do that to me, she is pure.

>>18317983
gotta learn from the greats bro fr fr

>>18318048
Sorry to break it to you bro but all women are whores

>>18317900
Inori acts like a zoomer gremlin and doesn't menhera tweets on both her vtuber and roommate account so no one in their right mind would care

Anyone else watching Asmongold for those sweet sweet Lost Ark pet drops? Just put that mofo on my second monitor and in 4 hours I get a free in-game pet. Ez

>>18317900
I'm not seeing any of them selling engagement rings any time soon.

>>18318468
Menasu...

>>18318535
Even Menace can be quoted from the handcam stream saying
>I like people, from a distance
She sets some boundaries.

Where did these rumors about Lumi retiring soon come from?

>>18318828
She is pregnant and needs to raise her husband Yuri's child

Why didn't Pandora apply to be in the KizunaAI live? It could have been a great opportunity

>>18318828
Literally your ass, no one said such a thing until you.

>>18318828
No one has ever said anything like that outside of a joke saying that Lumi demanded to be a manger or she would quit

Where are these shitters coming from?

>>18319065
judging from how much they want to talk about P*ppa...

>>18319065
my rrat is that it's the Nina's fans from the AOE4 thread that were bitching about the collab
Do not harass /Nina/

Yoki LOVE

>>18318828
I mean what's stopping Lumi from just giving CyberLive the finger and going off to do her own thing?

>>18319137
I feel bad for Phase bros. Their CEO somehow hires the biggest menheras.

>>18319351
Get ready for Gen 2.

I have grown to like Twitch much more than youtube

>>18319548
I'm aware...

>>18319303
she loves her genmates and management

>>18319303
Nothing. That is the entire argument. She can leave but chooses to stay. She is happy where she is. I bet you she could go to any corp but is staying where she is at for a reason.

>>18319905
Ehh, I doubt the bigger corps would take her due to her past. Other small corps probably wouldn't care I guess

is CL gonna add males soon

>>18319065
/tsun/ and /nina/ in all probability, /wvt/ as well, I'd wager.

Yoki LOVE

>>18320099
yes
me, lumi's bf

>>18320129
Looks more like /pcg/ to me because /tsun/ really shouldn't be talking

>>18320174
>>18320129
all four, then, /tsun/ having no ground to stand on is precisely why slugma is probably happy they're brigading in here
takes heat off their own oshis' management incompetencies
i like rosemi purely because she snaked /tsun/ lmao

>>18320164
Congrats Sei

>>18320230
>i like rosemi purely because she snaked /tsun/ lmao
Was still a shitty thing to do.

AAAAAAAAAA PLEASE DEVOUR ME BUT I WANT TO DEVOUR YOU TOO

>>18320230
the sad thing is Lumi would prefer we just watched and enjoyed all the companies/indies

Poggers
https://twitter.com/KurohanaInori/status/1492976440333279241

>>18320481
yeah i'll watch indies
but i can still hope tsunderia fails and all their GOOD talents go indie where I can support them without looking like a hypocrite

>>18320481
Well yeah, in addition to being more talented & a better manager than Slugma, Lumi is also a better person

I like Meru and fuck the haters.

>>18320642
>>18320627
BASED
Lumi also isn't a chink

>>18320687
but she is a nigger, so who really wins in the end...

>>18320687
Yeah, she can't be a chink because she's a wigger

>>18320722
There is literally nothing wrong with being black

Lumi should do another collab with calliope mori one of these days

>>18320798
shut up, SunsetInZero, we know how much you wanna bury your head and dick between Mori Calanni's tits

>>18320774
HYUCK HYUCK KANEKOON
>>18320661
We know, Lumi

>>18320774
he never said she was black

>>18320798
>another
Has she done one at all?

I find it sad that we have a whole-ass "friends of cyber" when at least one of these agencies is proud of being anything but.
It's sad that Lumi has friends in these other agencies who will never allow them to collab with Lumi.
I hope somebody nails PPP with an SA twitlonger and girls like Lisa get to actually collab with people they like lmao

>>18320994
https://youtu.be/QPK2gk2WNrw

>>18321028
Blame Hylo

>>18321390
well hylo WAS cyberlive, until recently
i stand behind my oshi (Lumi), and to a lesser extent the agency that enabled her to become what she is now if behavior of other parties does not change after hylo leaves, my biases (in good faith or not) are just proven more right.

>>18321091
kek

>>18319995
Anon moon jelly's former genmate is in Holo now and that company had such a sketchy past it's still being poured over by lawyers.

>>18316372
Why yes, I do love the girls in this company, less and less platonically by the day

>>18322771
This image makes it look like Chapi and Lumi are disgusted at Misaki

>>18316192
Key distinction is the actual company vs the girls. Ask us at ppg, we love our girls especially Nia but we'd be the first to shit on the company.
>take 50% of their earnings to do nothing but pay bloated staff to micromanage and develop NFTs.
>talents don't get provided any streaming equipment (most of the girls still stream off of their laptops and use shitty USB mics)
>talents have to pay for all costs associated with releasing covers
>talents can't open membership until they reach arbitrary 15k-20k sub count gate
>does 0 marketing/ads
>squeezes out the fanbase for money by releasing $100 'custom voice packs', gating 10 second exclusive voices behind a $150 'deluxe pack', bundles merchandise with voice so they can markup each sale by $10.

>>18322771
Kiamm...

>>18323350
Disgusted no, terrified yes

>>18323355
>talents can't open membership until they reach arbitrary 15k-20k sub count gate
This has never made sense to me as that just means less revenue is coming in

>>18323355
sumi...

>>18323512
Trying to play to some kind of algorithm meta I assume, though in practice it meant that a lot of talents just straight up don't get membership despite being around way longer

https://twitter.com/cyberlivecorp/status/1492991365545816065

Cyberlive is a black company

Cyberlive is a blacked company

>>18325158
is it because lumi is black

>>18325158
ok hylo

>>18320129
Wasn't able to watch the collab, what happened that would piss people off?

do you think Lumi is a virgin?

>>18326313
no, she has fucked so many blacks she has become one herself

>>18326313
not a chance in hell

Do you think I'm a virgin?

>>18326737
I imagine anyone I speak to online is a virgin unless I have heavy evidence otherwise
I do a lot of projection, you see

I need to breed Misaki

>>18326885
i wrote this

>>18326313
The only Cyberlive girl that might be a virgin is Yoki, and even that I doubt.

>>18326917
Menace will never have sex.

>>18326963
Your slime maiden has been defiled by at least two men anon.

>>18327308
Yeah, me and myself

I hope Chapipi is in a loving, fulfilling relationship that allows her to find the mental stability to continue to provide us with fantastic content

What does Cyberlive provide:
I mean all you needed to do was watch that Lumi working ASMR just to get an idea

>Lumi's working on a new outfit and needs a character designer (other corpos are only just getting 1 outfit despite being longer on the scene having to pass a numbers threshold)
>Lumi has 5-6 covers in the works at the moment and showed some of them off
>Lumi has 3D in the works and will debut late this month or early this month
>Yuri just released a cover and she's probably working on more
>she had a whole 3.0 redesign to fit her personality better and this is pretty much the third outfit they've given her
>Pandora says she's working on covers and wants to release one every month
>Pandora's likely gonna get a new outfit/redesign judging from Lumi/Yuri
>Her 3D is next after Lumi
>Gen 2 has more stuff in the works as well
>they even have a gen 2 manager that hangs out in Lumicord with Vera
>Misaki's working on a future project (likely gen 3), Lumi's working as a general talent manager and Vera's working as a gen 2 manager

There's probably a lot more they're working on that I haven't thought about or heard of but it's clear that they're very busy and they're working on things we'll see the fruition in 2022.

>>18326313
Depends on how rebellious she was in her rebellious phase.

I've been away for three months, why is Hylo not in the valentines collab?
Also why did she get moved to Cyber Friends? Is that a joke?

>>18328952
Assuming you aren't joking, she left the company and went indie. She still has her model and channel she's just not officially part of the company

>>18329025
Ah.

>>18329025
how come she got to keep her model

>>18329194
that was in her contract and they kept their word

>>18329229
If I was her manager I would have thrown the contract in the trash and told her to fuck herself.

>>18329407
If I was her manager, I would've had her perform below-the-desk activities to keep her model

https://twitter.com/lumikaneko/status/1493012528674312194

>If your oshi isnt streaming 8 hours of lost ark on valentines they're with their boyfriends

>>18329540
I'll perform below-the-desk activities for the manager for free.

how do menacekeks feel about her simping for anime men?

>>18330446
I too wish to fuck and suck and get fucked and get sucked by anime men

>>18319065
Now for a proper answer:
Look at the state of this board. It is full of people of /v/ who come from the outside to shit on this place. This causes an effect similar to the barbaric invasions - now that the bait threads are all occupied by foreigners, the local savages have to seek for their (you)s inside their generals.
Give a (you) to your local schizo, they are starving after being displaced by the superior barbarian tribes.

>>18330753
So you're saying that schizos are the trve sons of ROMA?