/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Never watched her but she speaks the truth

>>18235453
men bad HURR

You have the right to be big mad but no one deserves to get canceled or god forbid driven to suicide over this petty thing

Laplus is based and understands, and you know she means it because anyone who has watched her knows how much she freaks out over her own oshis. While she says this virtue signalling normalfags go
>HURR INCELS BAD DURR IDOL CULTURE BAD AAAAAAAAA REEEEEE

>>18235453
She understands that it's beccesary tk gjde brff yun

>>18235884
You are right to raise it

>>18235775
She's not the victim here, stop pretending she is. She made millions and is set for life by manipulating weak and lonely people into giving her money. She's a predator.

>>18235884
>beccesary tk gjde brff yun
Thats what Ive been saying, anon

You just know she had a mental breakdown over the twapi yab

>>18235453
Cope, lmao

>>18235884
absplitelu becessary.

>>18236160
Just turn off the screen lol

>>18235792
>TOUCH GRASS, EAT BUGS, SUPPORT DEGENERACY INCEL, WOMEN ARE GODS

>>18235453
Please show this to everyone.

>>18235775
nah she deserves it. she keep baiting suicide, of course suicide gonna bite

>>18236271
Says the same flag that claims she is being harassed and driven to suicide which is it little n*gga choose up
.

>>18235453
Put a baby in dat uoohhh cunnyy

>>18236402
>choose up
Alright, its getting harder and harder not to notice
Ever since this drama started, number of ESLs fucking SKYROCKETED
What the fuck is up with that? Is there some third world country with a hatred of Vtubers raiding us?

>>18236402
I didnt know you were getting paid for being a gachi schizo on twitter as part of your job

>>18236471
Only good post itt

>>18236160
To think Aqua wasn't the best at apex baka rushia has been predator all this time

>>18236515
Cant. /vt. This is total nsfw

You guys keep getting the wrong message from the outside. Do you guys seriously think no one would be slightly bothered by that? Of course they would, it's a natural reaction, but it just happens and you move on. It might set a new "dynamic", but that's about it. If you really fell in love with someone like that and are completely appalled that "oh surprise, she has a bf" then you gotta understand this first:

>Watching her content never made you play the game because she never knew about your existence.

>No, faceless, context less, millions of superchats don't count.

>Yes, if you "supported" her because you wanted to win her over, you were wasting your time and money.

You can be shocked, but the way people are reacting is just fucking ridiculous.

PLUS, and this is the funniest part, Rushia herself, as in her character, is the one still "pure", it's her roommate the one that's on a relationship.


Can't you delude yourself into thinking that both Rushia and her roommate are literally separate people, the way you deluded yourself into thinking the things she said on stream were directed to you and only you, despite there being thousands of people watching?

>>18236692
>reddit spacing
kys cuck

>>18235453
We understand it just fine, it's reddit/twitter who are out of their minds victim shaming Rushia's fans for her shooting herself in the foot.

>>18236692
your theories are undone by the fact Rushia said, on her roommate account at that aka "the real me" account, that she'd wanna marry one of her fans eventually. She outright sold wedding rings and couple's mugs as her bday merch. She actively told her fans not to "cheat" on her with other vtubers aka don't give money to the other girls, just her, and went around stalking her members on twitter to try to corral them back in. All of this behavior was tied directly to the fact she was acting clingy and menhera and constantly promised she's for real and you can trust her.

So after all that, for this to be revealed is way more than "pfft it's the fan's fault", no, IT IS fucking Rushia's fault too, quit fucking victim shaming it's disgusting.

>>18235453
> Why isn't Rushia held accountable for her manipulations?
Because they all knew for years?
Do you genuinely don't think Cover wasn't aware?

>>18236902
Why should all of this prevent her from having relationships irl?

>>18237035
it's evil?

>>18236902
>that she'd wanna marry one of her fans eventually
So what if Mafumafu is a fan of her?
What now Einstein?

>>18235453
Probably has boyfriend that fucks her regularly, and then they laugh at her audience together.

>>18236927
i meant by people not management

>>18237187
You don't even know the person that Mafumafu sent the message to.

>>18235453

>>18236692
>reddit spacing

>>18236692
I never read post with empty lines in them

All the faggots defending Rushia on Twitter or Reddit are clipniggers who started watching Hololive after EN debuted. Other Holos have said similar things to Laplus but they wouldn't know that. I've actually seen posts like "I DON'T EVEN WATCH RUSHIA BUT THIS IS RIDICULOUS, PEOPLE NEED TO STOP BEING INCELS" Not to mention half of them are seething Western indie 2views

It just makes me sad that I'm once again a minority in a hobby I helped start. I know this image is used for shitposting but it's unironically true.

>>18237035
She based her entire career on the premise she really is single and really does love and wanna marry her fans and constantly talks about how much she needs, and loves and misses them.

For someone to dare to do that while actually having not just a relationship but a live-together, long term one is morally repugnant, Nigerian prince tier fraud. If you see no moral failing in tricking a million people into this scheme and making millions off it, then I might as well go ask nicely to see your wallet just to look at the brand and promise I won't steal it, then run off with it as soon as you hand it to me going "haha you didn't stop me and voluntarily handed it over so I did nothing wrong." No, I'd be a faggot piece of shit if I did that and thus Rushia is a faggot piece of shit for carefully and deliberately coaxing her fanbase into this scheme on actual false promises.

>>18236692
>You can be shocked, but the way people are reacting is just fucking ridiculous.
I think you need to take shit post less seriously, go touch some grass.

>>18237271
based. dead giveaway of a tourist

>>18237278
>Degenerate can't cope with that fact that he's a minority

>>18236902
I'm gonna tell you something real, champ. But this might be too much for you. However, I'm still gonna approach the angle of you still supporting gachikois or being one.

It's too late for this, but you, all of you, should have never known Mikeneko. That's her PERSONAL account. Where she can say and do PERSONAL things and talk about HER life.

Rushia is different. That's a fucking anime character. RUSHIA is playing an act. If she "chases" people to lure them back in, if she doesn't want (you) to watch other girls, then wow, it just fucking means she's playing the yandere GF character well, you know what she ACTS like.

Do you really think she'd be like that irl? Lol
I'm telling you, you'd all save us a lot of time, effort, stress, and stupidly exaggerated backlash, if you could just separate the character from the person, and keep that suspension of disbelief up, just like you did when she was acting all yandere on you.

Let Mikeneko do what she wants, you still have Rushia to pamper you until she graduates.

>>18236902
it's impossible to argue with redditors anon, the desire to whiteknight and virtue signaling is to strong for them

>>18235453
I don't watch Rushia yet I'm still mad about her manipulating lonely, gullible men.
I certainly hope they won't come back to her and let her drop in superchat numbers.
Sadly, I fear that people will simply forget about it and serve as condom money ATMs.

>>18236495
Yes and they are called flip and malaysia seething cause holo and niji choose ID as their branch

>>18237385
This. There is nothing wrong with slurping his cum from her pussy while she pats your head and promises that she will love you forever. It's on her Rushia account after all.

>>18237385
Man you really fucking do not get it, she knows her more dedicated fans are gonna check that account and the only thing a "fan" would mean in the then-current sense would be, a Rushia fan. It's deliberate trickery. You believe what you want and delude yourself thinking bending over backwards to excuse grifting and pretty-much fraud are OK if a cute anime girl does it. It's not, and you are not a better person for trying to defend her (complete lack of) honor.

>>18237420
>kys
Kys

>>18237385

>>18236692
>rushia and her roommate are literally separate people
Please, she was taking the gachi shit on her IRL account. Rushia is smart and a grow ass woman, she knew that doing this shit was gonna give her big bucks. Now the schizos that want her dead are also braindead obviously, but I'm sick of people acting like Rushia isn't also in the wrong, can't blame them that much though, most on them probably don't watch streams.

>>18236692
> Do you guys seriously think no one would be slightly bothered by that?
You don't understand.
Rushia was not like your average streamer.
Her whole shtick was GFE.
She emotionally abused fandeads. Gaslighted them. It isn't just your cute chuba watching and saying goodbye. She fucking jumped at you to become her virtual boyfriend or whatever. Have you ever watched her superchat readings? have you paid attention how she addresses her donators how she talks to them? Any lonely men would be attracted and enamored by that. You really cannot blame them for falling for this scheme. Yes they are naive, maybe a little mentally ill, but she sure loved to abuse that and you sure want to make a victim out of her now. Riddle me that.

>>18235453
She's lying just like Rushia has been lying for all these years. She doesn't give a shit and is just trying to pander.

>>18237668
Her and Chloe both, pretty shamelessly at that.

>>18237302
I don't understand, Rushia has never interacted with other males online. The message she received was for a "Mi-chan". And you don't know that person. You don't know her name, how she looks,
and even the sound of her voice. She's a complete stranger, and not the person you developed a parasocial relationship.
Gachikoi schizos will never wrap their head around this though, they will forget that GFE is just that, an experience. You don't get the GF, you get only the E.
You wouldn't lynch a rental girlfriend for having a boyfriend

>>18237385
Did you not realize that she herself broke down that illusion live on stream for everyone to see because of her unprofessionalism? Not to mention she had that korekore interview thing yesterday where she was basically both reffered to as mike and rushia where again, it shattered the illusion that rushia is a seperate entity. I'm not one of her gachis, I just feel really bad for the fandeads that believed that they're safe within the fantasy world that she purposefully created

>>18237253
it's evil?

You will never be Japanese.The creators you love and cherish do not hate you, but are indifferent and have mixed feelings towards your existence. You are a statistic, a string of words, sums of cash that only mean something to them collectively. This isn't an 'evil' attitude, it's very reasonable. How would you feel towards your own fans if you were in the same scenario? The distance between chubas and viewers is vast. The pain is real, it's real because every gachikoi knew that none of it was real from the beginning, but in the deepest and most shameful parts of their hearts they believed someone cared for them personally, no matter how absurd and obviously untrue that was. It's very difficult to look in the mirror and know that you are a disgusting person that no one will love, and that you will never experience the intimacy you desire, and that even if you do, it might not actually make you feel any better. You will die alone, no one will mourn you. The pain and heaviness you feel will never leave you.

>>18237278
They would also know that Amanekanatach talked about differences between love for your oshi and actual romantic love and how to approach it in a healthy way (hint: it doesn't involve deluding yourself to the point of stupor and sperging out about stupid shit). They would also know that several holos want to have nothing to do with extreme girlfriend substitution bullshit and discourage it.
And if they browsed /hlg/ at the time when Aloe graduated they would know that anons there claimed to be tolerant 100% wholesome chunguses who don't mind bfs, tried their best to distance themselves from the JP gyuudon anti and blamed everything on nijinigger plots.

>>18237490
>blames flips and malaysians for being esl
>is esl

>>18237726
Holyfuck retard just stop talking you have no idea of what the situation actually is its obvious you just want toshill your ideologyi

>>18237385
I have no stake in this whole Rushia thing but you really talk like a fucking tourist, reddit spacing and all, who has no fucking idea what you're talking about at all. Legitimately go the fuck back, you're not going to get any upvotes here.

>>18237791
Yeah but they are men so therefore evil and to blame for falling for it, not the women who took advantage of people suffering and languishing

>>18237668
This is fairly obvious. However, even though she is lying, she has an intellectual understanding of the mindset driving her gachikoi fans.

>>18237990
I will accept this concession

>>18237385
Why do fucking retard normalfags think their opinion means abything, you just look like a massive spaced out retard.

>>18237791
>How would you feel towards your own fans if you were in the same scenario?
Fuck all the cuties. Simple as.

>>18237941
Kanata spent a whole stream sperging about Gakki. And she plays into the innocent too dumb to have male experience angle harder than Rushia does GFE. Aloe never claimed to be GFE, never had a chance too. The problem isn't Rushia was lusting after male cock or had a bf. The problem was she was doing it while still praying on lonely single men.

>>18238055
That has no value whatsoever. In fact it can only be used to hurt them.

Just ignore normalfags, they don't actually care and will move on to whatever retarded drama comes next. They seem to think idolculture is at fault for the majority of the "meltdown" but don't even invest time to know its mafumafu fujo's causing a majority of the "meltdown"

>>18237385
Why do you think we care that it's her PERSONAL account as if that excuses or engenders us towards her? I dont care faggot she is a terrible person and you are too fucking opportunistic sycophant

Just curious, who actually watches Rushia here?

>>18238169
>Kanata spent a whole stream sperging about Gakki.
Not this kind of a sperg out.
>Aloe never claimed to be GFE, never had a chance too.
You people regularly meltdown about chuubas that don't do GFE.
>The problem was she was doing it while still praying on lonely single men.
If your point is that GFE is bad and shouldn't be a thing because it's an inherently predatory practice then you are barking up a wrong tree. Is it? Or do you just want your mental illness to be exploited better?

>>18237531
You should kill yourself you deserve it, not that anon

>>18237726
The message she received showed on her rushia stream anon...
Also read the thread pls there were some good point made already. Doubt it will make you a more empathetic human being but..

>>18238044
I agree, which is why the conclusion I'm drawing is a black pill. There's nothing to be gained, everyone loses

>>18238289
no one, don't engage with retards let them think they "won"

>>18238068
You like lack the capacity to make a proper argument faggot, do you expect me to take your arbitrary bending of the situation in good faith? You didn't make a fucking argument the fact that you want to make this argument says to me you're a gigantic absolute abomination

>>18235884
Stroke-chan...

>>18238309
The fuck are you saying retard, of course its predatory, not only women can be victims in fact Male victims are completely ignored by hypocrites like you

>>18236402
>n*gga
Fuck off tourist nigger

>>18237701
Nice deflecting faggot, what has Chloe have to do with all this? She doesn't do GFE

>>18238471
Retard I was pretending to be a criminal niggerman, read into subtext

>>18238176
I did not mean to imply that this was necessarily a good thing - I meant that due to the fact that she understands how they work at an intellectual level she has no excuses.

>>18237791
>It's very difficult to look in the mirror and know that you are a disgusting person, that no one will love, and that you will never experience the intimacy you desire
Certainly not if you spend your days simping for vtubers.
>and that even if you do, it might not actually make you feel any better.
Won't know until you do and there's therapy and meds for that.
If you make enough to buy supas and memberships then clearly not all is lost. Like, I'm sure some of you guys are real ugly schizo motherfuckers but I doubt that many of you are actually beyond salvation. I had my first kiss at 25, don't give up, break the cycle. There are girls into anime, games and vtubers too.

>>18237493
I mean, I personally avoid "feeling like a cuck" since I simply don't genuinely think that I'm in a relationship with my oshi alongside millions of people LMAO

>>18237528
??? You sure that's not just in your head? What hololive member would be fine with or encourage people roommate seeking?
Also, grifting? Fraud??? Excuse me for not thinking that a cute anime girl acting like a yandere GF and people being disillusioned by her not actually being one is deserving of what's happening right now

>>18237620
Listen, I'm not even like gasping to defend Rushia, I hate GFE shit which is why I don't tend to watch "fake, audience pandering, too idol-y" holos, but now I'm more appalled about the gachikois' reaction to this drama than anything, it's wild to me how they can delude themselves like that

>>18237751
Oh well, that's cause this incident is what involved and mixed together the two accounts, even everyone around here is mentioning both names with no sign of jannies deleting

>>18237701
I mean Chloe did it right away and it was REALLY obvious she was being fake and too moe, cmon.

What I can't wrap my head around is, how are people in a board that hates everything, defending gachikois like there's no tomorrow? Not saying kiss Rushia's ass, but wouldn't you guys be taking the piss of "lonely idiots falling for a virtual woman"?

You reap what you sow. What’s happening is 100% Rushia’s fault.

>>18236692
>Rushia herself, as in her character, is the one still "pure", it's her roommate the one that's on a relationship.
you know this is literally untrue when the yab happened while she was rushia, right?

>>18238553
>There are girls into anime, games and vtubers too.
Yes my oshi, Rushia.
Just came back from vacation btw what did I miss?
I see a lot of appreciation posts for my cute necromancer waifu.
Can't wait to read it all up.

>>18237278
>clipniggers who started watching Hololive after EN debuted
this is 95% of /vt/ too

>>18238718
Fandead...

>>18238563
you're arguing about something you don't really know anything about dumbass westerner, most of your assumptions about hololive and japanese vtubers are just plain wrong

>Go to great lengths to deliver a GFE that feels as real as possible, people proceed to call it manipulation.
>And they expect you to remain forever single even though they don't know your real name, face and voice.
>A bunch of people who don't know you personally now feel entitled to your personal life.

My favorite part is schizos acting like pretending to be an over the top yandere anime girl is "manipulation".

>>18238821
you mean "funded" lmao

>>18235775
traitors get the rope

>>18236692
Go back to your shithole, reddit faggot.

>>18238563
Neither do I, but with the type of content she's doing you gotta be careful to not expose yourself as yet another greedy e-thot, and she went way too far with bullshitting her paypigs. EVEN ON HER ALT. Engagement rings? If this world was a just place Yagoo would personally slap her face and force her to apologize for going too far, therefore drawing the line between what's morally acceptable and what's borderline scam specifically designed for mentally vulnerable people.

Hello everyone, I'm Rushia boyfriend. Are you stop harassing Mi-chan? Every time she cry, I get an erection and both of we are confused. Also, please buy our goods. Thank you goodbye
Signature: Mafumafu

>>18238936
Oh you're pretending for the golden medal in mental gymnastics I see. Be careful, the competition is stiff. But I see potential.

>>18238461
I don't defend Rushia. I think that Cover pushing this shit was a mistake. GFE is bad for a lot of reasons, chief among them GFE chuubas not producing any valuable content outside of pandering and some schizos they attract being fucking retards who are a giant detriment to the fanbase as a whole. Look at them. They aren't mad because they were put in a fucking digital emotional hell cage with the goal of extracting funds from them. They are mad because the cage has cracks in it. The simulation was not good enough, they want a better one. I understand the demand for parasocial relationships because it's modern world and people are lonely but holy shit, this is a level of insanity that nobody in their right mind should associate with even if they feel sorry for the retards.
Pandering to chinks and corns was a mistake. Thankfully Hololive no longer needs either to make bank. Just a little longer and both kinds of undesirables will be gone.

>>18239205
I'm sorry that you think having common sense is doing mental gymnastics anon I really am, you don't deserve that kind of life.

>>18237385
I don't know how I could explain shit to you in a way where your retarded brain can keep up, but I'll try.
>hello I am Rushia I don't have a boyfriend so you can be my boyfriend
>here, I'm selling something like a wedding ring, so it can feel real!
>oops, a discord message implying I actually have a boyfriend just popped up! Sorry lol

>>18239259
why did noel apologize and explain herself when someone heard a male voice on her stream?

Friendly reminder, you are only a valued audience member as long as you donate and keep quiet. If you speak you are a loser neckbeard simp incel that needs to be laughed at :))

She did them dirty that aint right bro

>>18237385
I would take your statement seriously, however you decided to make reddit spacing. Please kill yourself in a clean manner so your parents will dispose of you much easier. Rushia played with fire and got burnt. Only a fool would have thought a rabid fanbase of lonely men would be understanding. Her manager probably already told her to now worry about the lonely incels and take a break.

>>18237278
The irony of you posting that image when you are the tourists.
Hololive weren't like this before. Not even close.
They were closer to proper idols and not stupid GFE faggots. These people are despised in the general idol industry as well.
They chased money. That's it. Plain and simple. They saw how successful it was and they all jumped on it.
I say "all", not everyone, but a lot did.

>>18238563
kys reddit spacer

>>18235775
She's the one driving people to suicide, you pathetic simp.

>>18235453
It's just brain raped illiterate twitter faggots not actual nerds. People trying to defend it have no moral substance and are just brainlessly and habitually signalling their alignment with the regime because it gets them brownies. Streamers exploiting parasocial relations is already scummy, Japan had developed parasocial industry with idols and decided love ban is the best way, a sort of chastity with money until graduation. All the westerners coping and seething and screaming to be cucked are just underdeveloped and have no standards.

>>18239559
>So it can FEEL real

So it isn't real then, why the fuzz

>Support her with as much time and money as you can spare
>She becomes successful partly due to your support
>Feel sad that the illusion broke and decide to rant a little
>Get attacked and demonised online by faggots that don't even watch her
Gachis are truly the most pitiful creature

>>18237385
Man, it's so fucking easy to spot you reddit niggers every time.

>>18235453
Smart cunny

>>18235453
Post this on twitter instead

>>18237385
>That's a fucking anime character. RUSHIA is playing an act.

That's the point though, she's in Hololive, it's LITERALLY her job. This situation is like if you paid to go Disneyland but the guy in Mickey Mouse suit walked in front of you and took a steaming shit, you complain to management but then a bunch of fags start yelling at you saying you can't take a joke. She can get creampied then do an ASMR stream no one gives a shit, she cultivated these gachikoi so it's her job to keep up the fantasy, this isn't hard to understand you troglodyte.

>>18237278
what you are not aware of is that GFEfags are also invaders and not the OG population.
It's like barbarians getting mad at moors after destroying rome themselves.

>>18236902
I've seen this in a few places but haven't been able to find anything besides people /here/ repeating this. Did she really say that?

>>18239687
Because Noel is a successful ASMR titty streamer on the side and she knows that every titty streamer worth their salt avoids being seen with males like a fire. Why would you pick her of all holos as an example?
I started watching Hololive back in the day because it was the closest thing to 2.5D SoL anime. Fun and cute, great voices, friendly atmosphere, mad banter, karaoke, promise of original songs and more concerts. Males had no place in it, but not because of muh boyfriend bullshit. They just don't belong in that transcendent piece of moe paradise. Nobody cared about occasional collabs with nijimales or indies like Gatchman since they didn't have to be a part of the universe. People loved their chuubas, but it wasn't the kind of transactional shit deranged "gachikoi" here are now trying to demand.
Then some holos started pandering to faggots who want rental anime Amouranth because they are ready to throw their life savings at their virtual girlfriend substitute and because they are NEETs who are ready to make clips 24/7. They succeeded, the corpo management saw it and now we are here. I hate it like you wouldn't believe.

>>18237385
>Empty spaces
Will never read your posts, I can tell who you are from the way you format them.

>>18238563
>What hololive member would be fine with or encourage people roommate seeking?
Haachama. She literally has herself added. kek
She even mocks and makes fun of it regularly, like when her face leaked on the building streams recently. She doesn't give a fuck.

i wonder which vtuber nqrse is fucking in the asshole and making neets seethe and cope over.
that pink haired slut that goes tintintintintintintintintin dodododododododododo in the webm is probably getting double teamed by nqrse and araki

vtubers exist for utaite cock

>>18237385
she say the same thing about his beloved fandead lol many many many times, you actually have no idea, redditard

>>18240825
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DMsoND2Ays

>>18240435
https://twitter.com/umeshu_1129/status/1492019176239923201

>>18240825
Mikoboat?

>>18237278
>clipniggers
That’s rich considering most people here barely watch streams, let alone clips

>>18240100
>>18235453
>Why isn't Rushia held accountable for her manipulations?
>These people are despised in the general idol industry as well.
GFE is lower level oiran to feed tayuus and backstage cover servants, plz undastand. Rushia walked into it by herself and cover knew whats going on and not only didn't stop her, they supported this behaviour - see merch arguments.
Really what twitter crowd should do if they are really set out on a crusade for justice is question cover corp monetization model, but this is never gonna happen.
This is a good wake up call for paypigs, and im sorry for gachikois loss.

>>18237385
>plebbit spacing
Not reading
*clap clap*next poost~

>>18238936
Truly spoken like someone who does not fucking get it at all. Where the fuck do all of you retarded normalfags come from? Reddit? Twitter? Either way, go the fuck back.
Rushia literally tells her fans that she is single, will remain single and that she'll never betray them and for fandeads to trust her to keep the money rolling in. Then has/had a fucking boyfriend. I'm not a Rushia fan so I don't really care per se, but if you don't see how that's blatant manipulation then there's no hope for you as a human being.

Why is he a girl?

at some point you have to wonder if relying this much on another persons behavior for your own happiness is healthy

>>18240825
>>18240912
Pottery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5grblViL_Q8

>>18235453
Post membership or fuck off

>>18241034
First quote - I don't inherently hate her for it. I don't really care what she does to get money, I'm not interested in it myself. I hate the GFE shit specifically mainly because it attracts mentally insane types.
However, what absolutely is true is it was 100% her fault for having him added on that account in the first place when this shit already blew up once before when her Discord leaked.
Whether they are fucking or not is another question, but she used language that, yeah, as >>18241127 just said, she used language that mentally insane people would see as absolute facts and not some dumb character shit.
The mere sight of his name will automatically drive these people insane.
Convenience is bad. Always. Never let your guard down in an industry where letting your guard down will royally fuck you in the ass.
Cover needs to stop being so fucking hands off with these people and outright ban them from personal contacts in Discord, there is no reason for it. Use a separate fucking browser for that shit, hell use a separate computer for it.
And DISABLE EVERY NOTIFICATION. ALL OF THEM.

>>18236160
>She made millions and is set for life by manipulating weak and lonely people into giving her money
And that's a bad thing because...?

>>18236160
Even if Rushia pushes GFE, it's your own fault for deluding yourself into thinking you share any tangible relationship with her.
Especially pathetic for any of her EOP fans upset about this.

>>18237385
> t. cover shill

>>18241491
Anon, either you are underage or your moral compass is seriously fucked. Get help, I am sure you have the money to get professional help right? It's not like you spent your money on SCs.

>>18240955
How could anyone with a good soul laugh at this? These guys are earnestly hurt, even if they know the nature of their relationship of her.

>>18242014
https://files.catbox.moe/6qwcxo.mp4

>>18242014
https://twitter.com/umeshu_1129/status/1492019176239923201

>>18241491
Even if a crazy fan kills her, it's her own fault for deluding her fans into thinking they share any tangible relationship with her.
Especially with scummy stuff like selling engagement rings and acting like a jealous girlfriend.

>>18242107

>>18241888
>>18242195
>watch a girl on YouTube play video games and talk
>there are literally hundreds of thousands of other people doing the same thing
>you are consciously aware of this because you talk to such people
>you have never met this girl in real life, and likely never will
>she, at best, has acknowledged you through obligation due to a superchat
>"Why yes, this is my girlfriend and she loves me."
It's not Rushia's fault you're mentally ill.

>acting like a jealous girlfriend
So you know it's an act. You know it's a character.
And somehow this "betrayal" is still real?
Fuck off

Remember what the E in GFE stands for. Not a single female streamer is single.

>>18242349
>it's fine to explore mentally ill people and extract money from them

>>18242349
>It's not Rushia's fault you're mentally ill.
It's her fault for manipulating lonely and mentally ill men.

>So you know it's an act
I'm not a fandead.

>>18242403
Yes. Drug Dealers are doing nothing wrong, it is the addicts that are the problem.

>>18242349
You ledditor and twitfags like to talk about how people should be kinder to the talent, yet you can't show any kindness to your fellow man in the community. Posting hate comments, twisting stories to make the Gachis look worse than they actually are. Do you think you are an internet hero? In reality, you are just as much of an internet bully as the actual antis that are hurting Rushia.

>>18242441
This. A million times this.
The minority of people that shit things up for everyone else are the problem, the ones that take things too far and have no willpower or mental capacity to reason.

>>18237385
Ah, yes It's on the fans to separate the character from the actor.
Where do you retards come from?

>>18242107
that nakadashi joke was pretty fucked up

>>18242597
>Ah, yes It's on the fans to separate the character from the actor.
Yes, it is. It's called "stop being a fucking caveman".
I don't see Tom Cruise as some indestructible superspy, he's some religious fucknut that does fun movies. I can separate both of these things because I have more than 5 braincells.
If you cannot separate actors from their roles, you are mentally disabled and need to be locked away from society before you shoot people up.

>>18235884
>beccesary tk gjde brff yun

I've seen quite a few clips lately mentioning BFs in a negative light. I take it as them reassuring the gachikois that they are single and pure.

>>18242687
So she's not really menhera? Everything little thing she says it's a lie? It's fine to laugh at her if she says something like "my dad died" or "i'll kill myself" because, I mean, she's just an actress, right?

>>18235775
>no one deserves to get canceled or god forbid driven to suicide
she does tbf

>>18242404
>I'm not a fandead
There's no difference if your opinion is that their impotent rage is justified

>>18242524
>yet you can't show any kindness to your fellow man in the community
I get how it feels, I've been in the same position you fags are in now (only worse because it was actually real, meanwhile Mafu has already said they are not in a relationship).

I get feeling a connection to someone who doesn't know you exist. And I get the pain when it feels that the connection was suddenly severed.

But chimping out for days over it is not healthy, and it's indicative of your relationship with the target of your affection having not been healthy in the first place.
This is a reality check you needed.
Of course, I'm sure a lot of Rushia's fans will just... move on to the next one, and never learn their lesson.

>>18242846
Yes? What are you, retarded?
I'm sure all of these guys are Spartacus as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKCmyiljKo0

>>18242441
This but unironically

>>18242846
You must have a difficult time detecting sarcasm and jokes, huh

Wheres the ss on Rushias alt talking about ending herself and disappearing?

>>18242869
>Chimping out for days
This is what I mean when people are twisting shit, most of her gachis are sad, not mad and stayed relatively silent. The one that is making the biggest fuss are you white knights. Also, I am not a gachi, I just have little bit more empathy.

>>18243134
>board flooded all day with Rushia threads
>multiple hashtags hitting top trends all day
Yeah, I'm sure it's mostly these unstable fans just feeling a bit down
That's how these things usually go, of course

>>18235584
>HURR WOMEN CAN FUCK MY FEMALES OSHI BUT MEN CAN'T DURR

>>18243238
No it's drama tourists and bitter anti's from other fanbases signalboosting it to make it more damaging.

>>18243316
I'm SO sure
Because that's what happened with Calli, right?

>>18243238
>Using 4 chan as an indication
Holy shit... you need a reality check

>>18243134
Gachicucks deserve no emphaty at all.

>>18243346
I am sure deadbeats hate Mori and KFPs hate Kiara.

>>18243346
Calli's thing didn't break containment, most of it was cross-board raiding but thanks for outing yourself as a cuckbeat trying to get revenge.

>>18243360
Shockingly I am not particularly eager to go anywhere I'm not already present just to analyze the fandead reaction to a big load of nothing

>>18243540
>implying
I barely even watch Hololive to begin with
The only one I'm subbed to is Korone

>>18243590
>Yeah right, as if it's drama tourists and people who don't give a fuck about hololive prolonging the drama
>I barely even watch Hololive to begin with
nice

>>18237791
Is pekora spammed on the other boards? This fag has a lot of images of her.

>>18235775
The actual worst thing that will happen to rushia is she won't be allowed to stream on valentine's and lose out on a bunch of her whale's money.

>>18243668
>prolonging the drama
There shouldn't have even been "drama" in the first place
And it should certainly be over by now, with it being confirmed that Rushia and Mafu aren't dating

Her fans could have been levelheaded adults about it and either a) minded their own business or b) waited for more information
But of course that didn't happen

>>18243590
oh? so a dramatourist? Hey, have fun!

>>18235453
because she's done nothing, faggot. and this hornfreak's falling into the same retardation as yours does not validate it.

>>18235775
A balanced take. Personally I wouldn’t mind her getting cancelled because I find GFE pandering to be a contemptible manipulative act, but suicide over this is way way WAY too far. Even I wouldn’t want that.

>>18241888
Why do you bother even arguing with these retards
They are either
1. Dramafags who are just going to say whatever riles people up the most
2. Normalnigger tourists who literally dont even know what's going on
3. Antis

>>18243891
Her fans are mostly just deflated, waiting for her to address things. They're not the ones keeping it going.

>>18244105
They're the ones who started it, which is the problem

La+ 100% talks to men on discord. They all do. They don’t have to be dating, but pretending they don’t interact with males is a lie on their part.

>>18244053
I know I shouldn't but sometimes I just can't stand them bringing down others to lift themselves up.

>>18235775
she is not the victim, she scammed and manipulated lonely people. Were they stupid for believing her? Yes, but that does not makes her innocent.
>>18241354
simp
>>18241491
stop victim blaming

>>18242687
I'm not surprised that my point flew over your head, obtuse dipshit. Actors get called by their character's name and are recognized as such even more, yet nobody cares because the fans can believe whatever the fuck they want, actors don't get to pick their fans, but so far its not their problem, its only when they start to feed those delusions that they become accountable for their fans actions and this is what Rushia did, her fans just bought what she was selling.

>>18242441
>>18242929
there wouldn't be any addicts if it weren't for drug dealers
>>18242570
>This. A million times this.
HOLY reddit

>>18244544
Go back to your board, retard.

>>18244497
>actors don't get to pick their fans,
Yes they do. They can simply tell the retards to fuck off. Many have done so before.
Trying to please everyone always bites you in the ass at some point. Always.

>>18241354
Fuck off

>>18240100
you are implying as if the gachikois were the ones who changed hololive and not them themselves that changed to get that sweet gachikoi money

>>18244712
>They can simply tell the retards to fuck off
When has that worked anon? Look at the actors of Supernatural. The only way to get rid of that shit is to be forgotten.

>>18241354
Honestly? It's not.
It's people pretending like that's not whats happening and that she's some pure innocent angel and doing free PR for a company that doesn't even know they exist that's the actual issue.

>>18244653
>n-no u!
AHAHAHAHAHA do tourist niggers really?
>>>/a/
>>>/r/eddit

>>18244458
>victim blaming
There is no victim
Nothing fucking happened

>>18244847
Can you read?
>They chased money. That's it. Plain and simple.
I know they changed. It started with Gen3 chasing them then the rest followed after.
Hololive as a company have been anything BUT consistent. Their focus is all over the place.

>>18245003
>Can you read?
Can you, you stupid retard? You're the one who started this argument by saying it was ironic for that newfag ruining a fandom pic being posted by the holofan here, calling the gachikois tourists and implying that the current gachis were the ones who changed hololive, when it was hololive that changed on their own.

>>18236160
BUT MY FREE MARKET

>>18237385
>empty spaces
rumao
Okay nigger, you've never watched a single rushia stream, but here we go anyway.
>Rushia is different. That's a fucking anime character. RUSHIA is playing an act. If she "chases" people to lure them back in, if she doesn't want (you) to watch other girls, then wow, it just fucking means she's playing the yandere GF character well, you know what she ACTS like.
Nigger, vtubers aren't anime characters, and they sure as hell aren't actors. Vtubers always drop their characters after their first streams, and then they assume a different persona, which in a way its a character but definitely not one that's made by an author or a performance artist. That persona its simply her own personality exaggerated and filtered, and that's something that every human does. Are you going to say that you are playing a character when you talk with your friends(inb4 you claim that I'm saying that I think vtbuers are my friend)? No you cocksucker. You think that she in every stream has an script made by Yagoo and all of her reactions and every single opinion that she may have and present isn't 100% genuine? Or what are you going to say that if Pewdiepie started to say during a stream that he thinks six millions is too much, you think that's just a character that he is making?
And because I know you a dishonest tranny that can only argue in bad faith, let me clarify that I'm not saying that vtubers can't lie, what I'm saying is that you're full of shit for saying that vtuber can ONLY lie.

>>18245266
NTA. Hololive changed to pander to those newfags because they were the best source of revenue at the time when Hololive was getting bigger but not yet big enough for merch and sponsorships to be their main income. There was also convenient timing with another vtuber group who used to pander to these people before Hololive imploding on itself and their fans looking for another virtual cabaret. Now not even those tourists but their spiritual successors are claiming to be the original fans who are being replaced by normalfags and are whining about how Hololive might change to reflect the change in target audience. It's just ridiculous to read sometimes.

>>18245756
Rushia != Mikeneko. Period.
You can cry about it all you want, but it is still a character.
The fact it has some of her own persona sprinkled in to it doesn't change the fact - it is a character.
Loads of actors put their own personality in to their acting roles and the ones that are closer to their own persona can pull it off better than most other actors usually. This is why Rushia is so good at what she does, because it IS closer to what she is like, but it is STILL a character.

>>18244225
They don't do it though.

>>18246240
Don't set yourself up for tears.
I'd suggest not checking most of their followed accounts either, or posts they like, or people they tweet at occasionally.

>>18235775
I'm not sure anyone is calling for her deplatformzatiob

>>18236160
Get that to court and see the judge laugh his ass off as he puts you in contempt for wasting justice's time

>>18245980
Mafumafu's message was on Rushia's stream, retard

>>18246312
Unless I'm missing something, all of her male followings are either artists (including papas) or the obligatory homos.

>>18246445
The fuck does that have to do with anything?
That changes nothing in that argument.
(not to mention the fact that most of them probably know by now, if they never already knew the open secret)

I will tell you exactly why non-watching EOP normalfags on twitter and anyone here defending Rushia thinks that way. It's because they equate the gachikoi who got caught in a parasocial relationship with Rushia with the same kind of retards on Twitch that spend thousands of $$$ on whores like Pokimane or Amouranth. Everyone was on the females' side when that happened so why wouldn't they be on Rushia's side now?

>>18235775
>driven to suicide
As if mafumafu's gachis won't get her first.

>>18246537
NTA BUT YOURE SO FUCKING RETARDED
IT MEANS SHE HERSELF DOES NOT CARE ABOUT THE DIVISION OF CHARA AND IRL

>>18241491
>rushia appeals to mentally ill people for profit
>they turn on her due to mismanagement
>it's not her fault!!! she's hecking innocent!!!!
westernoids are so pussywhipped it's not even funny anymore

>>18246618
t. Rushia
Oh wait.
You don't know shit about her. Neither do I.
Well, that's a lie, I know enough to know she is not like this at all, it's an artificially amplified version of herself no different to that which you would see done in anime with exaggerated personalities that are OTT.
No, she's clearly the same. I bet her nose bleeds when she gets embarrassed as well. She actually does punch things and injure herself. She doesn't do it for "show". Nope, not at all.

>>18246580
It's exact the very same thing
Personal responsibility

>>18246580
>they equate the gachikoi who got caught in a parasocial relationship with Rushia with the same kind of retards on Twitch
They are not wrong.
>Everyone was on the females' side when that happened
Do you expect me or other people here to be aware of Pokimane or Amouranth and twitter response to it? Everyone involved is retarded and bad. End of story.

>>18246751
If the cared she would have never ever let that or any yab happen. You are a gullible blind retard that believes in the word when her actions and their consequences are right in your face
You are hopeless and should forever be a simp, a sub human, a marginalized bum proping and financing your betters like humanity intended.
Rushia is based.

>>18246890
Oh so you are one of those kinds of retards.
Rushia is a retard. That's why it happened.
This isn't the first time this has happened, she is a tech illiterate retard, always has been, probably always will be.
Also, nice comprehension skills retard. I despise simps and GFE shit.
Stay in your containment board where the rest of you sub-IQ retards live.

>>18246783
>>18246825
You know how some people just have brains wired for addictive personalities and that gets exploited all the time by shit like lootboxes or gacha? There have literally been studies about what kind of people easily form parasocial relationships and how it usually stems from unmet needs of belonging and companionship. I know you westerners are so big on individualism and personal responsibility, but are you really arguing that emotional manipulation and exploitation of weak vulnerable people is 100% okay?

>>18247067
yes, but only if it happens to men because we can just label them incels

>>18244544
>there wouldn't be any addicts if it weren't for drug dealers
There wouldn't be any addicts if they had self control and weren't betas. Just because mentally ill people can't separate fiction from reality that doesn't mean it shouldn't exist anymore.

>>18235453
COPE; Your waifu is getting a creampie every day from a singer, retard. KYS

>>18246662
Oh no, I agree. If you play with fire you're probably going to get burned but it's not her fault that the mentally ill people get hurt when the fantasy breaks down.

>>18247067
>some people just have brains wired for addictive personalities
cope from retards so they can label themselves as "victims" because they are stupid with their money, just like the incels who got suckered into a "relationship" with Rushia

>>18247067
It's not morally good but if you start regulating it then you need to start regulating everything else involving satsifying people's desires and that's a bad road to go down. I'm not even a w*stoid but there are simply things that you really don't want to give up your autonomy on. The only somewhat okay way to deal with it is for a culture to develope where people will know to avoid this shit.

>>18245980
>Rushia != Mikeneko. Period.
>You can cry about it all you want, but it is still a character.
>They are different,because... they ust are okay?!
Dumb tranny
You've still haven't adressed any of my points, and I'll repeat: vtubers aren't actors so stop trying to compare them both

>>18235775
suicide is too much, but her career ending would be fine

>>18235775
You dealing with a bunch of incel virgins who have never felt the touch of a woman. It’s their fault for being pathetic and not wanting to better themselves not Rushia’s fault

>>18247259
Not advocating for regulation here, but the discourse has been overwhelmingly about "seething incels" rather than addressing the reality of vtubers fueling parasocial relationship with easily manipulated men - and whether or not that should be encouraged.

>>18247388
>You dealing with a bunch of druggies who have never felt the support from their peers. It’s their fault for being pathetic and not wanting to better themselves not their dealer’s fault

>>18246998
>He stopped reddit spacing because people pointed it out
rumao

>>18247238
>but it's not her fault
Except it is, since it was her that gathered and farmed this type of audience and it was her fuckup that exposed the sham.
I think the gachis are dumb and I hope this is a learning experience for them, but I'm tired of the constant white-knighting for everyone who has a vagina.

>>18237278
>I’m a minority in a hobby I help start
Lmao you didn’t help start you retarded faggot, and it’s a good thing you’re the minority opinion

>>18247307
Most aren't. Literally, well over 90% of the tens of thousands of them. Hololive are. Hololive specifically are acting out roles for the most part.
Most vtubers are literally just using avatars for streaming instead of facecam, this has always been true, even back in the experimental days.
But the likes of Hololive, Idolbu and a few others others specifically were acting out roles, placing emphasis on the fact.
They have a fucking show for crying out loud.
Sure most of those personas got watered down with their own persona, but they are still roles they play that is no different to a circus performer working 200 days of the year, day in, day out.
Don't think I hate her, not at all, I have massive respect for people that can work under live circumstances while trying to maintain some level of consistent performance.
>>18247484
Different person, retard. Also lurk the fuck more if you are going to try that "le reddit spaces!!!" bullshit.
I've been on Reddit 7 times mostly to laugh at Notch getting his ass handed to him after he got slapped silly on here and ran crying to them.

>>18247527
Do you have ADHD? Did you seriously not read my post or did you not understand it? If you didn't understand I'm saying yes she's self inflicted this incident on herself but gachis are retarded and hurt themselves for the most part.

>>18247475
>he thinks this is the same
Lol virgins are pathetic just go outside and talk to a women it’s not that hard faggot

>>18247635
>he thinks it's not the same
dopamine is dopamine
addiction is addiction

>>18245980
She hid it on her mikeneko account as well though. Why would she do that then, if she didn't intend to deceive? Just say you're dating then. It's not the same person after all.

>>18247683
does Rushia deals drugs to her viewers? no. Shut the fuck up incel.

>>18247721
So what you are saying is she double lied?
She knows many of her Rushia fanbase follows her real account, she literally brought it up multiple times in the past.
So has Matsuri. "Noel" smashed a keyboard for clips for mentioning her Hololive name.
They aren't stupid.

>>18247890
Like you said previously, Rushia != Mikeneko. right? No reason to keep it a secret then.

>>18247166
>waifu
neck yourself on the way out

>>18248264
Like I said
>They aren't stupid.
>...she double lied?
They might be stupid in the tech department, but they most certainly aren't in the social department.
I don't care what they do either way, as long as it doesn't stop her being entertaining.

>>18247606
>Hololive specifically are acting out roles for the most part.
Yeah you don't watch hololive.
Akai Haato is supposed to be a tsundere, but lo and behold she stopped doing that years ago, and has now immersed herself in her new Haachama persona, which is exactly her own personality turned up to eleven.

>>18248572
>turned up to 11
So acting?
You think acting needs to be done professionally by-script for it to count?

>>18247635
loll virgins, lolll incels
lol i put my dick into and raping a drunk whale

>>18247635
>lol
>lmao

>>18242801
>I take it as them reassuring the gachikois that they are single and pure.
By "them" do you mean the character or the actress?

>>18248625
Nigger you're the one claiming that they are 100% playing a character that was assigned to them.
Stop dodging and answer the points that I've made on this post >>18245756 you sissy bitch

>>18247166
Actually Rushia can't receive creampies (except for 2D ones) as she is just a 2D anime girl.

>>18247721
>She hid it on her mikeneko account as well though.
She was probably obligated to hide it due to Mafumafu's contract.

>>18247795
>gets btfo
>moves goalposts immediately
typical

>>18248793
shut the fuck up, boomer

otherwise we'll send you to a home

>>18248828
I suggest you get your autism diagnosed, you can get free money for that these days.
I'm being serious, I'm not insulting you.
People act all the fucking time outside of their regular old persona. Same shit with being drunk, meeting new people for a business meeting, "put office face on", and countless others scenarios.
People act out improvised scenarios with a very loose framework of go-to references literally every day. Get out more. Seriously.
I didn't say shit about a character they were "assigned", I said one they created from a mix of their given-character and their own persona, WHICH IS STILL AN ACT.
I get hard thinking about Haachama potentially acting like that in real life, but I know she doesn't, she's a much duller and more reserved person than that. She has literally told of this countless times about her times in school and how much of a "weirdo loner" she was.

>>18243297
if you genuinely believe men and women are equal you're beyond saving
...or a woman

>>18249000
>I suggest you get your autism diagnosed, you can get free money for that these days.
this, coming from someone who is autistic as fuck, you normally dont see that shit yourself until someone points it out

>>18241491
amazing how outsiders twist their gymnastic logic and turns apathetic to defend Rushia

>>18248480
You said that rushia is only a character, only an act, which is why people shouldn't be mad at the actor, mikeneko. Except now you admit that the actor is a liar as well. Get it yet?

>>18247527
If she didn't farm them, they would have herded themselves into a different farm pen. Rushia provided the supply, she did not increase the demand. Fandeads who genuinely believed they had a chance to marry the actress who plays Rushia, or even just Rushia the character, are the same type of people who would marry a character from a Light Novel, or buy one of those sex dolls and combine it with a dating sim or chatbot, and then eventually marry that.

>>18242869
>Mafu has already said they are not in a relationship).
he didn't said that idiot, he only said they don't live together, and no it's not the same

>>18249160
I'm not defending her for that. I'm just saying she isn't stupid and knows she has fans following both accounts and has brought it up before.
Of course she would hide it, just like any other idol hides their IRL relationships out of fear of being shafted by them. (who also act in every public setting as well)

Seek mental help in the form of a bullet to the brain stem

>but muh drug dealers!!
You seem to be misunderstanding something. I do think drug dealers are bad. However, I also KNOW that they'll always be around, and the addicts who get hooked on their shit deserve to be laughed at ruthlessly, which is why I'm here.

>>18249359
okay, put your money where your mouth is and go downtown and laugh at drug addicts. go to an NA meeting and laugh at them

>>18249000
>I suggest you get your autism diagnosed, you can get free money for that these days.
>I'm being serious, I'm not insulting you.
And you should get your body dysmorphia issue resolved, you mouth breather.
>People act all the fucking time outside of their regular old persona. Same shit with being drunk, meeting new people for a business meeting, "put office face on", and countless others scenarios.
I've literally said that you dumb nigger.
>Get out more. Seriously.
You're the social retard that thinks that one's social mask is a completely fake construct of one's own self. Please make friends.
>I didn't say shit about a character they were "assigned",
>rushia is an anime character!
>said one they created from a mix of their given-character
how can you be this much shameless?
>I get hard thinking about Haachama potentially acting like that in real life, but I know she doesn't, she's a much duller and more reserved person than that
How the fuck can you on the same post acknowledge the existence of social masks and personas, but at the same time claim that Haachama doesn't have one? Also you're a clipnigger rumao

Laplus is built for shota cock

>>18249401
I don't want to, which, again, is why I'm here. I don't even watch VTubers, as I have no interest in 3D whores wearing 2D masks and doing streamshit. I just find it laughable that you niggers have painted this narrative where the only ones making fun of these whales are from Twitter.

>>18249434
I worry for your future. That's all you get. Get your last dig in. Make it a good one, redditor.

>>18249270
>just like any other idol
Oh but I thought that only Rushia was the idol and not Mikeneko?
>Of course she would hide it
Why would she hide it if she is a completely different person from Rushia?
Also vtubers idols aren't the same thing as RL idols, so that's a false equivalence

>>18249216
など is appended to nouns or lists to suggest more items of a similar nature are included

So when he says 同棲など he's saying "living together or anything like that"

>>18249401
What does this post even mean?

>>18241491
delusions

>>18249200
>the same type of people who would marry a character
I just wanted to clarify that I don't have anything against non traditional marriages or romances. I'm the type of person who enjoys filling my time with fantasy, so that it can become my reality. So in some ways I'm insane. But I also separate my fantasies from my real life when I can't live in fantasy, so I'm also kinda a normie. This is why I can fall in love with characters while they are streaming, but when they go offline it's back to the real world or VODs. I'm not the type to go after the actress because I know she wouldn't be playing the character even if we somehow got together.

>>18249507
>gets BTFO
>makes a passive agressive post with no argument
>calls me a redditor even though hasn't never watched a hololive stream
SEETHING

>>18249270
Gee, it's almost as though they weren't different people to her fans that waste their money and time on her and you've been full of shit right of the bat.

>>18249560
>Why would she hide it if she is a completely different person from Rushia?
>Also vtubers idols aren't the same thing as RL idols, so that's a false equivalence
NTA but man, if she was dating Mafu, she probably had to hide it because HE isn't allowed to share that info publicly. Because y'know he's a RL idol with a RL agency.

>>18249560
You're timelooping. I'll let you figure it out.
>>18249682
This too.

>>18235775
>snake oil salesmen(frauds) don't deserve to be lynched
The absolute state of you

>>18249507
I'm a lurker in this thread. You lost. I love seeing retards get BTFO.

>>18249682
She could just say she has a boyfriend without saying who it is.

Imagine how much less pathetic your lives would be if you spent time thinking about literally any other thing over this

>>18249682
She would hide the fact that she was dating mafumafu, not the fact that she has boyfriend
>>18249707
>has no argument in you're path
cope

>>18249776
>>18249841
Yeah fair enough. It's still her decision though, and people should be capable of jumping to the conclusion that the real girl has a real bf.

>>18249831
t. pot

>>18249896
It's her decision to play stupid games, and it's her decision to win stupid prizes, that much I agree with.

>>18249741
both the salesmen AND the buyers deserve to be lynched, you fucking moron
stop defending low iq subhumans because you think you either have to do that or defend whores

>>18238459
Hahaha
my sides

>>18235453
Yagoo is personally waging an intifada against idol culture. His entire company's gimmick is "unlike mainstream idol agencies, we don't pander to mentally ill gachikoi and we let our girls have a personal life". If you're a Hololive gachikoi, you're in the wrong fandom and you should go back to mainstream idols.

>>18237385
god why are you reddit niggers always want to hit that double enter key after 2 sentences.

>>18249831
Look! The 4chan browser thinks he is not a loser!

>>18235453
Lap seems like she browses 5ch.

>>18249507
cope :^)

>>18249999
Their brain are too much undeveloped to be able to read sentences without it

>>18249951
Nah, profiting off of stupid people is a very jewish thing to do. You're not a jew, are you?

>>18250006
I wouldn't be surprised if La+ is one of the ESL kenzoku in the Towa thread

>>18237668
/thread. I can't believe they're falling for it again. Fool me once, etc..

>>18249988
>His entire company's gimmick
Only the EN and possibly ID branches.

>>18249988
Sure thing. I don't think anybody's mad at akirose or mio for being married. But then again, they didn't go on a four year gaslighting campaign about their real life while simultanously selling engagement rings.

>>18250080
i'm tired of retards defending "people" who make retarded life decisions and use "muh mental illness! muh emotional instability!" as an excuse
get fucked nigger

>>18250104
JP as well. It's just that idol culture is so ingrained that girls just try to act like idols because they feel uncomfortable acting like regular people. I'm pretty sure that's the specific reason why Horny Marine's character exists, her gimmick is being the opposite of a seiso idol.

>>18250159
>>18249951
Based. Only normalfag redditors defend retards who fall for this dumb shit. It's like people who fall for the most obvious fucking scams online. I feel nothing for them, although it is funny.

>>18250154
That's still no excuse for being a schizo gachikoi tho. If you are unironically in love with a chuuba and think her having a boyfriend is NTR to you, you are mentally ill and live in a lie.

>>18250229
You're completely right, and I think the same goes for Rushia is she kills herself. I'd feel nothing, and it would be pretty funny

>>18237385
The absolute seethe this post is generating is unreal. All of these lonely anons that spent hundreds of dollars on their fake online gf thinking they had a real shot... lmfao

>>18250229
>>18250299
fucking based

>>18250299
You are literally a tumblrina that unironically feels happy when someone commits suicide if that someone happened to think different.

>>18250159
>>18250229
The retards arlready got their punishment. It's the fraud that needs their comeuppance. The whore deserves to burn.

>>18250159
Short sighted mindset. Everybody is weak at some point in their life, this doesn't justify scamming them. With you're rhetoric, you're not only not defending them, you're acting enablist for exploitation. Which is fine, just makes you a bit of a douche.

>>18250237
They're mad at being deceived and lied at by the actors as well, not just the character. If you want to date, then feel free to do so, be upfront about it so that they don't accidentally waste their time on you.

>>18250299
If she feels empathy for fucking over retards then I'd be genuinely surprised. She knew *exactly* hat she was doing.
>>18250414
I wonder if she'll try explain it away somehow. There's no way she can't acknowledge what she was doing. Speaking of retards she put herself in this situation by having discord on stream.

>>18250414
Rushia did nothing wrong, this was not a fraud and she doesn't deserve that. As >>18237385 said, she was just a goddamn fiction. Literally wanting Rushia to be punished is a litmus test for mental illness, like yours.

>>18250502
Kill yourself troon

>>18250502
And as was said plenty of times in this thread, the actress was dishonest as well.

>>18250497
If you want to live in a lie, the mainstream idol industry is for you. What Rushia did was nothing compared to what the mainstream idol industry does.

>>18250429
i'm not justifying them being scammed, i'm pissing on them for being the kind of subhuman who'd let themselves get scammed, and i'm pissing on idiots like (You) who say that i should extend my sympathy towards these morons
>enablist
>>>/r/eddit

>>18248877
Mafu has a 2d avatar, so he can creampie her in 2d and 3d at the same time.

>>18250502
This anon >>18245756 completely refuted that argument THO

>>18250502
>Playing into parasocial relationships this hard should have no consequences
Kek. I'll laugh at the retards who got fooled and her for getting her comeuppance. She even acted this way on her vent/main account.

>>18250599
What if I don't even feel scammed, what if I don't even feel like it was dishonesty?

Like, for fucking real, I can't even wrap my head around the idea that Rushia was dishonest or a scammer. Please explain me.

>>18250299
it would be pretty funny

>>18250637
I can BTFO that argument by saying that sucka is telling me how to enjoy Hololive. I enjoy Hololive however the fuck I want.

>>18250608
Well, you don't really have to defend them in the first place considering they're perfectly capable of throwing a shitfit themselves so I don't understand what you mean with "defend". I just see that you have a hard time understanding that scammed people sometimes like to get mad. And that's that.

>>18250608
Anon you can still feel sympathy for someone and still think they were stupid, stop being a cunt. Being stupid isn't a sin

>>18250502
Shut up, same fagging redditor
Rushia fucked up hard. If you don't get it then let's play a little game. I'll give you a situation and you tell me who the situation is about. I know for a fact you'll get it wrong since you're braindead faggotry isn't aware of what the actual problem is.
>Create a very specific type of content to appeal to a very specific audience
>market heavily to them and give them exactly what they want to an insanely precise degree
>Suddenly fuck that up by giving the people the EXACT OPPOSITE kind of content
>People are outraged and depressed and the creator suffers consequences for fucking over their main fanbase
Who am I talking about?
I'll give you a free hint: The creator in question doesn't make content anymore.

La+ knows that this is a betabitchboi mindset, she's only telling you imbeciles what she thinks you want to hear in the hopes of draining your wallets.
You GFE faggots are incomprehensible to me. Did you really think a cute, successful girl like her wouldn't have a boyfriend? You should assume that any girl has a boyfriend. Obviously they don't, there are roughly as many single women as there are men, but before you buy into the experience, you should acknowledge its all roleplay and that there is a non-zero percent chance that she's getting railed on the regular. She isn't a kissless virgin any more than she is a necromancer.
I don't feel overly sympathetic for her, I think she knew what kind of mongoloids she was grooming as her fanbase. You live by the mongoloid, you die by the mongoloid.

>She exploits us weak minded, spineless retards tho!
Pic Related

>>18250663
Good for you then. I don't really have to explain to you that other people may feel differently about it than you do, do I?

>>18250875
>Being stupid isn't a sin
look at the state of the world today and say that again

>>18250663
>literally lied
>"how was she dishonest"
But you never watched her so what would you know, really.

>>18250429
>weak = stupid
>we should babysit people over the age of 18
Why should I feel sympathy for weak faggots? I look down on those subhuman losers. Absolutely pathetic.

>>18250745
And no one's saying you can't enjoy Hololive however you want, you dumb faggot. This is about how the main PAYING audience of Rushia's fanbase is a very specific audience SHE HERSELF cultivated and has now pissed off or made depressed. This isn't even unique to VTubers. It's happened in other sectors where a creator pissed off their actual paying fanbase.

>>18250924
Watch out, the little Redditor kiddies will call you a troon or something. You aren't allowed to use facts here.

>>18250939
I don't see how scamming the weak and stupid helps the world. But I would be interested what party you vote for, whatever country you're from.

>>18250939
World is like this because people thinks people that were scammed had it coming for them

>>18251092
Scamming the retarded helps the world because it redistributes wealth from the retarded to those who aren't. Overall this has a net positive effect. Either retards learn their lesson or they get Darwin'd.

>>18251012
Ok.

>>18251092
>I don't see how scamming the weak and stupid helps the world
learn to fucking read
i'm not advocating, i'm saying it'll happen regardless, and i will 100% piss on the gullible fools who LET themselves be ensnared
>what party you vote for
i don't

>>18236160
millions of... yen?
don't tell me these people are actual millionaires in real money

>>18251012
mindset of a scumbag, justifying taking advantage of weak people

>>18251145
>dey wuz innocent babies!!!

>>18251161
In this case, killing faggots like you are justified. Just redistributing wealth from worthless scumbags.

>>18251161
And sometimes, the scammed get mad and start building guillotines. Capital punishment, instead of capital redistribution. Also darwinism.

>>18250875
>Being stupid isn't a sin
It should be. By sin, I (we?) do of course mean locked up and key thrown away to keep the rest of us safe.
These "people", directly or indirectly, make the lives of the rest of us that little bit worse, if not outright terrible in some countries where stupidity is common.
Stupid people aren't completely useless, but free roaming to do whatever they want is dangerous. I'm not saying we treat them like complete animals. Just keep them in a fenced off area to work away.

>>18251364
based

>>18251232
>>18251161
>>18251067
>>18251012
>>18251282
>>18251364
Shouldn't you be asking for some random old lady to not redeem some gift cards, pajeetchama?

>>18251264
>Y-y-y-y-you're a bad person!
No, I'm a good person. If people step on or over retards helps people progress then why should I feel bad? Because we wuz double digit iq kangs?
>>18251326
>scum
Zero argument. I get it. Your old dustbag nan gets scammed because she's a brainlet but that money is in better hands now.
>>18251333
If you get caught scamming you're either unlucky or retarded. Smart scammers know how to milk retards for all their worth and disappear without a trace. Either that or they get proxies to do the scamming for them.
>>18251364
Based. We do need stupid people to wageslave in jobs that computers can't do yet but overall it's a net negative.
>>18251476
>unironically defending retards
kek

>>18251232
I dunno man, shitting on the victims for being exploited very much creates a culture that fosters this behaviour. You say you don't advocate for it, but you partake in victim blaming around the issue. Yikes dude, not a good look.

>>18251537
*stepping

>>18251537
Are you actually indian though?

>>18251562
>shitting on the victims for being exploited very much creates a culture that fosters this behaviour
the only solution is genociding these retards or keeping them locked away on a scale that isn't feasible, so shitting on them for their idiocy is the next best thing
>victim blaming
>yikes
these are the "people" engaged in making sure utter retards aren't held accountable

>>18251673
No but I'm white bong though. Never scammed anyone before I just don't feel bad for those who scam or get scammed. Had people attempt to scam me on steam though.

>>18251701
Or, you know, just punish scammers. Maybe they'll learn if they get burned often enough. Absolutely futuristic concept, I know.

>>18251802
or, get this
do both instead of shackling everything to the lowest common denominator

>>18251802
>Maybe they'll learn

>>18251861
Pekora impregnated a rrrrrrrat? I'm not even sure what the joke would be but I still laughed when looking at this.

>>18251850
Stay in school buddy. You'll grow out of it eventually.

>>18251932
First time I saw it I never noticed her face.
I saved it because of the rat getting scanned. I was so tired I just saved it without thinking.
Only noticed it later the next day when scrolling through images.

>>18251972
right after you return to reddit

>>18251701
typical leftist white trash defending the criminals and blaming the victims.

>>18250912
Nta, there are so many examples but who is it?

>>18251861
I've seen this image posted a thousand times and this is the first time I noticed the ogey in the screen in the background.

>>18247623
We agree on the most part and both sides obviously share the blame, but maybe I should have expanded a little bit more.
I think Rushia owns a bigger side of the blame because she's more sane than her fans are and is manipulative, however the gachis vulnerable state might not be entirely of their own doing. Other factors might be at fault for them ending up in the state they are in, including but not limited to "society".