/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

She's my waifu

>>18221530
The vtweeters protecting her never super chatted her a single cent and wouldn't even speak her name if she didn't go full retard on stream.
They're just trying to prop her up so they keep flying under the radar. They know if she falls everyone is going to start sniffing around them next while hoping to get some brownie points with fuckdeads.
They're all fakes and whores. Every single one.

>>18221530
Gentle reminder that your father cucked your mother away from you.

>>18221843
my mother doesn't pretend to be my girlfriend while also taking away my college funds

>>18221986
If you're stupid enough to spend your college funds on an imaginary waifu, you are retarded. Get better bait anon.

>>18221735
Are you still using this defense that has been proven wrong over and over again? Remember when you said EOPs would never spend money on vtubers?

>>18221530
Cuckdeads owned LMAOOOO

>>18221530
You guys meme, but honestly not her fault fools and their money are easily parted

maybe be less retarded and use your money only for yourself?

>>18221530
This is literally Aloe 2.0 except this time Rushia deserved it. Westernoid was a blight to vtubers.

What would the white knights say if they saw this?
That it's still a roleplay?

>>18222042
For fucking real. I've enjoyed hololive for like 3 years for free. Are you guys retarded?

>>18222197
Look, these faggots have nothing else. What are they going to do? Go back to /pol/ and "win"? Lose more money on NFTs? Fap to tranny porn on /gif/?

I feel sorry for them.

>>18221986
You're missing out then my guy

>made a small fortune playing videogames all day while exploiting lonely men for money and dates a literal superstar
>I'm supposed to feel bad for her while the gachis that are on the brink on suicide and lost everything are being mocked online

>>18222296
If you feel sorry for her gachis then stop believing retarded shit that Rushia antis are trying to push to attack her and her fans. Mafumafu and Rushia are not dating, this has been known for fucking years

>>18222172
>implying 99% of people here do moonspeak

I'm actually astounded anyone is mad about this. Behind every personality is a successful person. I know the culture is full-retard in japan but this is like being mad about learning Tara Strong is is married or something lol

if you really think about it a Vtuber doing GFE with no BFE of her own just doesn't make any sense

>>18221530
I don't feel bad for her paypigs, they got what they deserved
I don't feel bad for rushia, that succubus got what she deserved

>>18222197
>Are you guys retarded?
People are having a meltdown over two straight 30+ year olds dating. Your question is redundant.

There is no need to defend her. She is fine. She should be fine anyway. Most people are making fun of her fans and not her.

>>18222371
Evidence suggests otherwise.
Or are you going to tell me just because someone told you that it's suddenly true.

>>18222371
I feel like I remember similar controversies with other famous people. You know, the kind where they so much as look in the direction of a man or woman and a bunch of tabloid-reading weirdos assume they're fucking.

>>18221530
I regret clicking the rushia tag, the most reddit tweets I've seen in a long time.

>>18221530
>nooooooooo she only makes 50k a week we have to protect her honor!

fuck off nijinigger

Rushia honestly does get the lion's share of the blame here as she's actively cultivated this kind of fanbase from the start but that doesn't mean her gachikois are free from it either as anyone who isn't a delusional sperg knew from the start that these people are just playing characters and they were never going to be apart of their roommates personal life in the first place.

>>18222848
>just playing characters
Then why did Rushia extend the act to her roommate's account? Why did she constantly break the 4th wall to talk about her personal circumstances, life, family, etc? All this 'character' argument boils down to is people giving anyone with an avatar carte blanche to lie and manipulate for zero reason.

>>18221530
That expressionless look on her face is perfect.
That's much she care about her gachis.

>>18222848
Being a gachikoi isn't about deluding yourself into thinking that you'll actually be her bf one day.
As far as I'm aware it's simply about a transaction, you receive virtual affection by a girl who is single and ideally genuinely invested in her fanbase and content, and in return the gachis offer money, promotion and emotional support if desired.
You can call it cringe if you want, but that's the implicit contract that exists between gachis and their oshis and they have every right to be upset when it turns out they were deceived, just as you have the right to be upset at the construction company that uses shoddy materials to build the house you commissioned or at the restaurant that sells you expired food.

>>18223025
>All this 'character' argument boils down to is people giving anyone with an avatar carte blanche to lie and manipulate for zero reason.
That's exactly what they want. They want other people to shut and throw money at these people so they don't have to and get their entertainment for free.

>>18222716
I had a feeling that asshurt Cuckbeats were behind some of the spam. It's the perfect unholy union of Cuckbeats, SJW twitter trannies who hate gachikoi, seaniggers and ironic weeb faggots who just love shitting on vtubers.

I can't get over the hilarity of normalfags who never donate trying to shame her paypigs out of the industry.

>>18223136
You gotta love how half the pro-Rushia posts on Twitter start with "I don't watch her content"

>>18223136
At this point the western vtuber cancer is doing more harm to Rushia than the actual yab did by using it as an opportunity to attack her fans. Some of them are even harassing the Orca guy, fucking shameful.

>>18223183
Starting to get it? It's never been about vtubing, it's always been about trying to destroy idol culture and gain SJW control of another medium they haven't corrupted yet. Hope you're looking forward to your BLM educational Hololive streams because that's where we're going if these fags have their way

>>18222046
Cope.

>Yab happens.
>Mafu claims they're not dating.
>Twittards "help" the situation by bullying his fans, mostly young Japanese girls, into suicide.
This is disturbing.

>>18222296
What did her gachis loose anon? Are you retarded?

>>18223136
It was all fun and games until the normalfags got wind of the drama and started moralizing, and when mafu's fujo fanbase started harassing Rushia herself.
All the gachikois are doing right now is crying in the corner. Doesn't seem right to me.

>>18223405
All the goodwill between the JP and foreign fanbases will be gone now. The JP fans will think the twitter trannies speak for all of us

>>18223293
I think out of all industries, vtubing will be one of the hardest for them to fully ruin.
Video games were destroyed because the entire industry is owned or heavily influenced by banks like Blackrock that enforce SJW ideals through their ESG scoring system, movies were pozzed from the start given that literally all major Hollywood studios are owned by jews, but Vtubing is comparably independent and heavily carried by gachikoi money, they simply can't afford to excise those elements.

>>18223412
Their time, money and oshi.
Or are you going to pretend they are not hurt, retard?

>>18223465
And thank God for that.

>>18223136
>XXX I'm your biggest fan!
>greyname
Because they don't want to feel inferior, which is the most hilarious part since you would think by default if you don't pay you should feel above the people funding the entertainment for you. But deep inside they feel like impostor fans. The dream is a streamer with no memberships or SCs ever, putting everyone on a level playing field.

>>18221530
So your telling me that I am supposed to feel bad for some guy who understands he is 1 of thousands of people in her GFE. And she is clearly putting on a persona, and clearly this is all just content. And I'm supposed to care for these guys who know this, and are now supposedly mad that she has a boyfriend? Whats next, are you gonna tell me a prostitute doesn't actually like you, or enjoy your lame dick. Or you going to say that the Walmart greeter doesn't actually give a shit about you. Fucking retards.

>>18223535

>>18222423
based

>>18223465
JOP WILL BUILD THE WALL AND THE VTWEETERS WILL PAY FOR IT

>>18223558
You don't watch her to begin with, shut the fuck up retard and stop feeling the need to comment on thing you know nothing about.

>>18222296
>Exploiting men
Being a GFE streamer doesn't mean she has to stay forever single so your fantasy can stay untainted.
Streaming is an entertainment show where both sides make believe, and when it ends, both go back to living their real lives.

>>18223759
>Twitter greynames woul like to have a word with you

>>18223117
Don't forget Germans.

>>18222413
The girlfriend experience is nothing new, retard.
Heterai were a thing 2700 years ago.
Concubines were a thing 2400 years ago.
Geisha were a thing 800 years ago.

What differentiated them from prostitutes? The girlfriend experience. They stayed unwed, they were never seen with men outside, they were training to be great entertainers from their early teens to their late thirties. They were proficient in singing, playing instruments, reciting poetry, and engaging in conversation and storytelling.
Vtubers are the heterai and geisha for the 21st century. Do you know what happened if a Geisha or hetera was seen fraternizing with a man outside? They lost all their clients. It's that simple.

>>18223491
No, because this is stupid. These guys know its fake.
>>18223759
She doesn't live you anon, you knew that, yet are still mad about it.

>>18223794
pay a hooker instead retard

I'm not into Rushia but I think I've seen attention seeking members only community posts before of her pretending to have mental breakdowns in the past about thinking her fans don't love her enough or something to that effect.
I don't suppose anyone has screenshots of that sort of thing?

>>18223819
Wdym, I'm german and I'm with the gachis on this.

>>18223836
>retards are retards no matter the time period

You make a great point, anon.

>>18223819
eh, i don't see any scat posts

>>18223836
Never saw it like that, you make a compelling argument

I feel betrayed because I thought mafumafu was gay or sth. Dude dress like a twink for someone who is in his 30. I would bone him if I could

Thinking that a woman wants to hang out with a male supercelebrity just to be friends is like thinking that a man wants to hang out with a pornstar just for her personality.

>>18223851
i mean, it's quite obviously not fake.
the obvious conclusion is that they've been dating.
they had matching bracelets/plates/cups they posted on twitter in 2017/18, and he was on her DM list on discord but it got discarded as schizo theories easily.
the reasons she's trying to hide it is because her streamer persona is a possessive girlfriend. it's obviously bad for her if it leaks she has a boyfriend.

>>18223794
She said she will be single forever on her PERSONAL account.

Guys, let's just stop the drama. Rushia will always be mine only anyway.

>>18224131
I ment, they know that their relation with her, and her persona is fake. They know they're just a faceless client she doesn't know.

>>18223490
It will be harder, but it's not impossible. Vtubing won't just die on its own. It will be a result of Japan as a whole being ruined by Western ideas that they are slowly adopting over time. They need to pivot towards a Chinese alliance before it's too late. And if Japanese idol culture does die one day, we can just move on to the Chinese who are incentivized to prop it up anyway due to how many more men than women exist in that country. Tens of millions of guys there have no hope of a romantic relationship at all, even if they improve themselves.

>>18222413
Rushia was watching BFE streams though. She went so far to convince everyone that she's just like her audience.

>>18222371
i mean, with how many times they had to clear up misunderstanding, you just can't take their words for it. circumstantial evidence plus with this new one at least prove they've been living together

>>18223836
It's such an obvious, natural profession. Of course single men and women make better entertainers. It would just be weird staring at some guy's wife's butt.

>>18224201
Tell me your not a fandead or know anything about her streams by posting a comment that outs yourself the comment.

>>18221530
The only thing she did wrong was getting caught, now she either has to lay down the hole she dug up or dig deeper until the next YAB.

>>18223490
gachikoi money means nothing, retard
for hololive it's a couple million a year, that's what one medium-sized sponsorship gives

>>18224454
so what you're saying is that Pekora/Fubuki/Korone/Botan/Sora sponsorship money > superchats?

>>18224201
well, it might not neccesarily be fake. after all, over an extended period of time your real personality seeps into your vtuber one.

>>18224433
typical narcissistic mindset, I hope everyone with that mindset gets caught and catches a bullet in the back of the skull.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXYeARRyDWk

>>18224454
It's literally the vast majority of their income, vtubers are as carried by their whales as gacha games are.
Unless Blackrock decides to dump hundreds of millions into an industry that's really still rather niche for the most part, they're safe for now and even then you'd always have indies that will pick the whales up if corpos abandon them.

>>18224499
Superchats are a way for individuals to make money. Rushia receives the most, and she receives what, maybe $1.2m a year?
$1m is huge cash for an individual, but it's pocket change for corporations.

>>18224454
>for hololive
Rushia is not all of hololive. She doesn't do a lot of off-stream work the way many of the others do.

>>18222154
Maybe don't be a soulless faggot who cares about profit, retards deserve the consequences but those who scam and steal from retards also deserve to get fucking roped, kill yourself worthless parasite kik3 :)

>>18221530
>ALL WOMEN ARE QUEENS
>WHAT? WHAT DO YOU MEAN SHE IS A MANIPULATIVE SOCIOPATHIC WHORE!?
>GO TOUCH GRASS INCEL
>#WELOVERUSHIA

>>18223836
Comparing vtubers to geisha is actually pretty perfect, it's really similar

>>18224433
This has happened with mafumafu 3-4 times. It's no big deal. They'll say nothing has happened and move on.
Rushia can easily cry "why don't you guys trust me" if it gets too bad to get the gachikois on her side.

>>18222399
Dude kill yourself, no one believes you unironically made this retarded psuedo argument genuinely, you're such a piece of shit faggot lol end your life

>>18224503
But that doesnt matter, she still doesn't actually know these guys, and these guy know that.

>>18223794
Then don't be a fucking GFE, how hard is it for you to understand, did the cocks you suck pierce into your brain retard? You can't have your cake and eat it to, but you can eat cyanide.

>>18221986
Yes she does, and I don't really understandf why you're lying about it...

>>18224602
The funny thing about trying to bring this behavior justification to the mainstream is that the next time someone in related circles get cyberbullied into killing themselves people will say "oh well you should have known people would be shitposting about you, many of them probably didn't even mean it, you're an idiot if you fell for it and killed yourself :)" and it would be even more valid than this.

>>18222399
She cultured the GFE experience, how hard is it to understand she built her shitstorm?

>>18221530
I applaud her for "stealing" from such retarded people. Like seriously what pieces of embarrassing human trash these guys are

>>18224724
do they really? people donate for attention, largely. i'd reckon the ones who donate big think differently.

>>18224583
is that after the cuts?

>>18224724
Fuck off phonefag seanigger

>>18224776
That isnt even the same retard.

>>18224793
>I applaud her for "stealing" from such retarded people. Like seriously what pieces of embarrassing human trash these guys are

>>18224724
Okay? Thats not an argument at all, if she is posturing as something knowingly with the intention of manipulating lonely faggots, thats on her, if you disagree you are just an obtuse faggot with an agenda who already concluded what the case was before coming here and are thus worthless because you can't even provide an actual argument, all you do is twist things to try and support your side, you care more about winning than reality, so uh grow a fucking brain. Your subjective opinions of these things you have no stake in is worthless, an opinion is not an argument, especially an opinion with no actual relevance to reality. Its also not up to 4channers to educate you you fucking retard, look into a situation before actually making conclusions about it, you are probably beyond saving though so just go back or kill self.

>>18224793
>Like seriously what pieces of embarrassing human trash these guys are

>>18224793
>blaming the victims
and this is why if they are trash, they are still much superior to you,

>>18224862
You're right in the sense that random shitposts from nobodies online against you are definitely less serious. Just ignore them. Fools and their lives are easily parted.

>>18221530
I want to lick Lucia's flat chest and suck her nipples

>>18224776
If you are absolute scum, I am not shitposting, I want you dead and think you are everything that is wrong with humanity, I mean maybe you aren't that way but if you really think that lying and scamming fucked up people is okay because they fell for it, I legitimately hate you. I wasn't attempting to imply any sort of acting or bantering, I think there are too many absolute narcissistic abominations everywhere and I can't stand them.

>>18224925
>you dont have a argument
>proceeds to not make a argument and just spergs out on how they are right and anyone else is wrong

Ogey

>>18223836
That's brilliant.

>>18225061
I don't, if you actually read it. I'm pointing out that people who justify a streamer deceiving retards as that 'retards deserve to be deceived' literally just lead themselves directly to the conclusion of 'retards deserve to kill themselves for being cyberbullied'.

>>18223836
I've always compared them to strippers but I guess this is better. I'll go with this explaination.

>>18224793
How are you so purely scum, Its like almost impossible that someone like you could be real, you are like the parody of evil, anyway please kill yourself okay? Unironically though I don't think you even have a consciousness so you dying or suffering would be nothing because you don't exist internally. There is no way that someone like you can be self aware is what I mean. Thank you for reinforcing the fact that people like you are completely deserving of the way I think of you, now I know for sure and will do what I can to help make people like you suffer legally

>>18225087
My argument is that it would be a waste of time to give you a proper response, not that I am right, but it is definitely that you are wrong. I've made no conclusions beyond the fact that you are incorrect.

idk maybe if (we) stopped calling them whores and their fans cucks people would be more inclined to hear out our complaints….naw fuck it it’s too late

>>18225172
Oh I misread, then I agree with you. I had assumed you were the guy I was originally responding to.

>>18223836
you cant get physical with vtubers and thus its trash

Man this is only a controversy because Rushia is in a relationship with a fucking twink. Imagine if the message was sent by some Olympian chad instead.

>>18224793
basado

>>18225274
why does that matter, the facade of politeness is a waste of time. If you can't get through to the actual arguments people are making you obviously have your own intentions and are using it as an excuse to undermine the point.

>>18225223
You forgot your meds today.

>>18225270
Yea I'm sure you have some deep compelling argument anon. Don't worry, I seriously believe you.

>>18224793
Yeah like the retards who donated to black lives matter, to buy mansions for them.

>>18225395
You should probably be on anti narcissistic retard meds desu, sadly there is no cure for being a freak with a malformed amygdala you don't have to be such a faggot though.

Are all fandead mentally ill?

>>18225406
You are disingenuous, therefore I am not going to bother is my point.

>>18225441
One is someone putting on a show where people know its all fake, like WWE. The other is a actual promise to take money and use it for said promise, then spend it on some other shit. That isn't the same retard.

>>18223836
So why the fuck I can only fap to these vtubers? We can absolutely fuck hetaera and geisha for money. I should be able to just make a call to Cover and the vtuber should be ready in front of my doorstep in 30 minutes instead of having to superchat her dozen times to be noticed at all.

>>18225555
No I get it anon, your argument is avant-garde, if I was to read it my brain would actually explode. Nice quads tho.

>>18225320
Men didn't get physical with heterai and geisha either, unless they were willing to pay small fortunes.
These women were entertainers first and foremost. They feigned interest, they feigned affection, they feigned deep connection. They were masters of their craft. They were well-versed in most schools of philosophy, most lyrical masterpieces, many instruments, and most dances. They were absolute artisans of lying and pretending. That's why they were so popular.
Men went to these women to be intellectually stimulated, entertained, aroused. They were able to suspend their disbelief and be lulled into a stupor that led them to fleetingly believe that a beautiful woman of many talents was actually attracted to them.

The average man went to pornai, prostitutes, for sexual release. Prostitutes were always ostracized from society, since no one respect a whore. In greece they were disallowed from even attracting customers, so they wore sandals with etched soles that spelled "lust" or "love" in the sand as they walked. In Japan and China they were practically slaves in the red-light districts, and lived there indefinitely until they were able to buy their freedom. In western europe they were outcasts, living in huts well outside the settlements.


Heterai, concubines, geisha, they were idealized and constructed forms of the feminine. They were not real or genuine. They were approximations of the ideal. That's why they were so well regarded, wealthy, and protected.


Whores were the debasement of the feminine nature, the loss of innocence, purity, chastity, and value. That's why they were ostracized and found revolting by men and women alike, albeit for different reasons.

>>18225631
Why does it matter, they are both retards who fell for it, one fell for some false pretense of a girl not lying to them, another fell for grifters, your intention doesn't matter, isn't that the point?

>>18225718
Yeah Its kinda underground I am sort of a different kind of poster, Its just my thing I guess, thanks though I love you too.

>>18223836
holy based woke /his/chad

>>18223836
this helps realizing that the girls think of themselves that way too.

>>18225798
>Men didn't get physical with heterai and geisha either, unless they were willing to pay small fortunes.
Who the fuck are you trying to fool? As much as geisha were entertainers, they were also prostitutes, the small fortunes part only applies to the highlly ranking ones. And I can't get over you misusing the term "concubine" to mean something it most definitely isn't.

>>18225631
Its funny though because I knew that would get you, you fucking hypocrite. Btw the girls who do this act as their real personalities with a fake background and some flavor. You should be thankful I gave you this argument out of pity, I know its going to be wasted on you though because you will surely ignore it

>>18225989
nta but at least post proof for your statements.

>>18225989
So is rushia not a high ranking geisha, or what, she has millions of fans.

>>18226117
If we go by market laws then something available to many means it's cheap

>>18223293
Idol culture is shit and exploitative. It's more than just "muh essjaydubyas". Stop scapegoating things during your meltdown and have sex.

>>18225989
The vast majority of people who visited a geisha could not afford to actually have sex with her too. A quick google search will show you how their relations worked out. They even sold their virginity as a maiko, but again that was very expensive and most people being entertained by them could not actually afford that.

This is not different from idols, or female entertainers in general. They will secretly (until its revealed) fuck guys for tons of money, but most could never afford that and they will put on a pure act for the majority of their clientele.

>>18226223
How much do you think mafumafu was paying?

>>18222197
Poorfag never have access to premium content lol

>>18226201
>have sex
holy fuck shut up retard, its not your place to disingenuously make arguments because you disagree with idol culture, how hard is it for you to not get fucked constantly that you try and eliminate any sort of profession that might require that, there is more to life than that you simpleminded animal. Also you are the sjw he is talking about which is hilarious because you are saying that you yourself are a scapegoat as you do exactly what he said you would.

>>18226201
41% yourself tranny.

>>18226259
I think I'd rather ask how much Rushia was paying, mafumafu seems like a prime geisha.

>>18224144
>personal account
Her personal account has nothing to do with her entertainment persona. sometimes you meet somebody and that changes things. This isn't the diabolical ruse you think it is

>>18225989
>misusing concubine

They are equivalent to the geisha and heterai. Cultures that engaged in polygyny had concubines. Harems. They were not whores, they were entertainers first and foremost. Their raison d'etre was to accompany and serve the emperor/satrap/sultan/daimyo.


Geisha being prostitutes is a misconception popularized by post-war hollywood. Similarly, heterai engaging in sexual acts with their patrons is also a product of post-war historians. Although largely refuted and disproven, it still holds fast in public consciousness.
These women would only engage in sexual acts with extremely powerful men and for extremely large sums of money. The less popular a geisha was, the more unlikely it was to engage in sexual acts, since it would axiomatically jeopardize her career, her safety, and her establishment's bottom line. To the point that establishments that housed heterai in classical greece (post 70-tyrant age, and particularly during Pericles' reign) would boast signs with the name, age, and virgin status of their heterai. They were euphemistically called Lilies, the flowers that denote the purity of virginity. Whereas they'd call the heterai that were not virgin and thus able to be pursued with enough money, roses.

>>18222296
The cuck mentality of western simp is astounding, but they don't even watch JP chubba

>>18222154
Unicorns are retarded enough to rele beleb that a random woman who does not even know them loves them.
Rushia panders to them and reinforces their delusions.
No victims here, both sides deserve each other.

>>18226400
I agree with that, I did call that anon a faggot though mostly because he was implying Rushia was blameless, as if we can't see the obvious spin he(?) was putting on it.

>>18226332
are you 12? of course there is more to life than having sex. its just obvious how badly you all need it in particular.

If you offered any of these girls enough money, they'd fuck you. Even ones in secret relationships.

>>18223136
They will try to make chubba think chubba can get away with this shit, and slowly driven away paying gachikoi, replacing them with normies who don't pay. Just like the fanbase of Kizuna before she went hiatus.

>>18222423
>I don't feel bad for rushia, that succubus got what she deserved
Hey don't drag succubi into this mess.

>>18221530
The whole situation is no different from instances in other sectors. Any faggots blaming "muh idol culture bad" are fucking retarded.
>Build a fanbase with a very specific focus
>Pander heavily to them and make a killing
>Fuck them over and betray their trust
You can't betray someone and not expect them to be outraged or depressed by it. Even more so when that audience you betrayed were Gachikois that were marketed to far more extensively than other GFE's did.
Rushia knew what fanbase she cultivated. She now has to deal with the consequences of betraying that fanbase.

>>18226379
>and thus able to be pursued with enough money, roses.
YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST ROSEBUDS

ROSEMI IS AVAILABLE FOR THE RIGHT PRICE

>>18225798
the point still stands, you will never ever get physical with a 3d persona hiding behind some pixels

>>18223412
Of course you don't know because you never belong here

>>18226500
literally says you, people like you are so fucking spaced out they don't realize that they are the only ones mentioning needing sex constantly and defending women because they need to get fucked or their brain breaks, maybe you shouldn't butt into places that you know nothing about and had no investment in, to use them as a soapbox to preach your narcissistic hedonism and to try and culturally absolve yourself of humanity and blame by shifting it on to everyone else.

Gachibros, it's for us to stand up for ourselves. These poorfags have been shitting on us for far too long. Yes we spend money for the GFE. If they weren't doing GFE, we don't give them anything. It is our money. We should just stop spending lots of money to vtubers and see how long they can stand that without begging us to come back.

>>18222371
first step, denial

The most ironic thing in this situation is that Rushia's top paypig is named Orca. Y'know, like her primary competitor right now.

>>18226548
Fanbase are a bunch of cucks who willingly parted with their money despite knowing better. Fuckers here were told ever since /jp/ to not simp for this shit, but they were too busy cooming to read. At least people who pay for porn get more thank a thank you dopamine rush.

>>18221530
>FARMING GFE MONEY FROM LONELY AND DEPRESSED PEOPLE!
Why do you faggots only pretend to care about the exploitive nature of vtubing by these talent agency corporations when it is to shit on someone doing their job at said company? You don't care enough to tell people to stop giving vtubers so much of their money on a daily basis when the girls eventually will leave the business and have a family. It is only a matter of when. Even some vtubers like Noel, the literal camwhore, have commented on seeing the same people all the time and being worried about them and if they are doing ok in their lives.

>>18226606
NTA, you're ought to ask yourself the question, are you in love with the character or the voice actor behind the character? I admit that the roommate is an essential core for the character we all witness before us and you can't simply replace the roommate for someone else.

>>18226373
She pretend to be a pure single girl who's the girlfriend of her fans on her personal account, idiot.
She posted about being mad about a riajuu couple she saw when walking outside just a week ago.
Why act like you know shit when you don't?

>>18223597
Those guys just fishing for upvotes

I dont even really care about the Rushia drama, but to the vtweeters rallying behind her and crying about how the fans don't have lives and shouldn't get mad over their GFE oshi having a boyfriend, I fully expect most of them to reveal they're in a relationship, if they have any integrity, and aren't just soulless retards farming for Internet points. Of course, however, they won't do that.

>>18223220
>going after orca
Too fucking far.

You can make as many arguments as you want as to why rushia is an evil whore now but the truth is that all these streamers and idols are probably getting their guts rearranged every night anyways because they actually understand how to make connections with other human beings. The only difference with rushia is now you know for sure. pls pick the worms out of your brains.

>>18223220
>Some of them
You mean the green woman of Amber Glow?

>>18225642
Maybe in 30 years anon.

>>18226718
no its just comparing vtubers to geishas and whatnot is absolute nonsense is what im all trying to say, but if we go this route of what im in love with, be it the character or the va behind it then good luck dealing with the people who watch anime aka anyone here

>>18226730
Because they came here to promote their lifestyle and don't care about the reality of the situation, they just want to remain blameless for the lives they live and thus will defend anything remotely similar to the selfish narcissistic lifestyles they hold. Ironically denigrating other people so as to benefit themselves or distract from themselves or to make their warped worldview more popular because they care only about winning.

>>18224370
This, the fact there's an engagement ring piece of merch for her fanbase should tell any outsider what she cultivated. She fucked them over and now deals with the consequences. She knew what she was doing, this is what she gets for fucking them over.

>>18226778
Yes, though I've also seen the screenshot of his donation amount doing the rounds among the twitter trannies laughing at him for being an "incel".

Why must it be this way rushia bros

>>18226513
All women have a price.
They are evolutionarily hardwired to have a price.
Their reproductive access is an asset. Their affection is transactional.

Socially-enforced monogamy was a system that precisely targeted human nature, by making men exchange their excess of labor for the woman's reproductive access. The woman is dysphoric in such an arrangement because she is solipsistic, and it goes antithetical to her evolutionary predisposition. Female mating strategy is two-pronged, something called strategic pluralism. She seeks out the best genes, ie the most fit man, with masculine secondary sexual characteristics that are signifiers of health, testosterone, and fitness. These men employ an asymmetrical mating strategy of inseminating as many women as possible. Thus, women cannot secure protection, provision, and parental investment by those men. They can only secure their genes. Cue their secondary mating strategy of engaging in mating with men whose mating strategy is provision, protection, parental investment, and mate-guarding. That's the reason female humans developed concealed ovulation, paternity confusion, and menstrual synchrony.

Guys, I haven't slept since this news broke. I keep checking her Twitter and other boards for any news that she's ok, I just want her to be ok.

>>18226837
>She fucked them over
No she didn't. Fuck off cunt, you're not Fandead and you don't speak for us. kys

>>18226332
>because you disagree with idol culture
You absolute black nigger gorillas learned what "idol culture" is in late 2020 from third hand EOP sources that warped 80% of the meaning and just outright made some shit up. I bet you are one of those absolute retards who think that "oshi" = "waifu" and who don't know a single chant. Just shut the fuck up. You are just a thirsty e-girl chaser with severe mental problems. Let me enjoy my vtubers without your brain rot, you cancerous faggot.
>you try and eliminate any sort of profession that might require that
What profession you absolute mongoloid? Hololive didn't start out as a virtual cabaret for lonely retards. And whenever a talent doesn't act as an "idol" most people don't give a shit because that's not the content they are in streams for. You lot then proceed to whine about "Japanese cucks" or about how your true otaku community was replaced by r*ddit normalfags because the target audience doesn't want to go along with your stupid bullshit you circlejerked yourself into believing on basket weaving forums at some point in late 2020. Nobody likes you. Nobody wants you. Get a fucking clue.

>>18226775
>getting their guts rearranged is what you consider a connection
Thats probably why they made a connection, people like you are all too common, actual humans are rare. Also unironically any women can get laid by just asking, its not even an exaggeration unless they are massively deformed or mentally disabled.

Qrd?

>>18226730
Lmao she plays a fucking character on the internet bud. Anyone who isn't suffering from terminal brainrot can differentiate.

>>18226775
>have seggs therefore its okay
how are you such a faggot and a retard by the way? People like you have one argument, because its the only thing you fucking brainlets think about.

>>18226913
No there's plenty of actual humans. Just not here though, and you definitely aren't one of them either.

>>18226831
How do you know what are they thinking? Do you even stream?

>>18226327
not with that attitude

>>18226909
NTAYRT you're not a fandead either. Go back to Twitter and make ten more #ロシア大好き posts from different accounts.

>>18226912
>Posting Polka one of the clingiest parasocial vtubers in Hololive
>Reeee let me enjoy my vtubers they don't like you guys
You absolute fucking retard. Why would you post a picture of a vtuber who undermines your entire point, who DOES want gachikoi, who DOES want a parasocial relationship with her fans and actively grooms them?

>>18226946
Rushia has a partner
Lonely men that paid for the girlfriend experience rightfully feel betrayed
Voice their displeasure
Stans jump to defend the meek child Rushia's honour
Rushia is a victim somehow because she leveraged the usual mental health scapegoat

>>18226837
i bought the ring because i thought it was cute and i wanted to show support for my oshi. I do not regret buying it.

>>18226972
They didnt say that. They just said that normal people have sex, why does that piss you off?

>>18227020
because its also a picture of the joker.

>>18226818
I think its a fair point still, vtubers might not be exactly the same as geishas but it is the 21st century GFE.

Think of it this way, back then people attended to actual physical performances of geishas, but geishas as you know wore heavy makeup to which you can draw analogy of vtubers hiding behind anime avatars.

>be it the character or the va behind it then good luck dealing with the people who watch anime aka anyone here
The thing is we're in the same place when it comes to vtubers, no matter who you have as an oshi, most likely people who watch her also love her and you have to "deal with them" as well.
It's all a fantasy, you can still have X character as your wife because it is strictly your own fantasy, all in the mindset.

>>18224875
>>18224933
>>18224970
"Lonely men" are inferior beings and deserve nothing but the rope for wasting their miserable lives, if you're part of this demographic kill yourself.

cope and seethe for eternity you loveless waste of oxygen faggots. None of you will ever find love and you're undeserving of it. I hope you die without ever hearing a woman (or man, just in case you go gay out of desperation) say "I love you" and die childless. Imagine wasting your 20s simping over an anime gif with eyes that clip and are poorly animated instead of washing your nasty greasy faces and getting a job and finding a woman and having kids with her and building an average, normal life. You want to have your cake and eat it too, you want to just sit there huffing your own farts while a woman does all the labor for you while you do absolutely nothing. Well guess what? You could send her your fucking kidneys and she still owes you nothing. After all, you're one of many rabid degenerate faggots who simp over her. You're, and always will be, nothing but a random string of letters with a poorly compressed anime avatar to her. Nothing more and nothing less. Your agnoy sustains me.

What's with all the "twitter reddit omg go back" posts?
/vt/ has literally been a mirror to r/hololive for more than 6 months now. People here or there are posting the same exact pictures and """epic memes""".

>>18226912
I'm not even into idol culture but you don't have an argument, they made an agreement to act with a pretense and she went all in on the facade. She did this to manipulate lonely people, I could care less about how you think it exploits her faggot, she made a shitload and was fucking her boyfriend and will get out of this richer, in no way is she a fucking victim, you just lack the concept that your actions can have consequences because not everyone agrees with you you aren't being oppressed. Its simple, don't give that experience if you aren't willing to compromise, even barring that you have to be willing to accept the blame when its revealed have some dignity.

>sticking my meatrod in some random whores meatcave will definitely fix every personal issues with my life!!
Its so obvious that these normalfags have never been in a relationship

I know retards are being retards, but exploiting their retarded feelings is still wrong.

>>18227047
>Russia has a partner
How was this even uncovered?

>>18227108
Cool

>>18226962
Yes and she did it on her personal account specifically to make everyone believe that it's not a character. How fucking dense are you?
It's like you will defend literally anything a woman does.

>>18227108
That's great, now fuck off and go date some 3DPD whore who will cheat on you with a nigger.

>>18226982
I don't think you are really, the lack of humanity is probably you and your other twitter friends. The worst kinds of hypocrites, if you just admitted you were a piece of shit people would hate you less.

>>18227166
He messaged her with an intimate tone on stream.

>>18226513
I still have a chance with Mel?

>>18226679
You really don't get it do you? It doesn't matter what your retarded faggot filled ass thinks about her fanbase not to mention
>/jp/
Since when were /jp/ fucking Japanese you autistic faggot? The Gachikoi were Japs. Rushia built that audience and fucked them over and now suffers the consequences. This is no different from that eroge dev that sold himself on making pure virgin romance dating sims, adding in one element of NTR and winding up bankrupt because the fans he cultivated despised that kind of shit.
The whole situation is just a play by play of "what happens when you fuck over your actual paying fanbase"
Your opinion on her fans means nothing here.

I have a question guys. How many chuubas that support rushia are going to reveal to their fans that they have a boyfriend/girlfriend and they love them much more than they love their fanbase?

>>18227108
Hope she reads that, bro.

>>18227210
Imagine how much sex with a high class geisha would have cost, then adjust for inflation.

>>18227103
"lonely men" are genetic mistakes that only exist because doctors didnt euthanize them at birth, and their mothers didnt throw their ugly faces off of a cliff. There's a reason why people have zero sympathy for lonely men. They're irrelevant, biologically speaking, to the species.

>>18227225
None.

>>18227108
Jealous roastie angry she'll never match Rushia. We're really getting all kinds here aren't we. Your value as a hole is diminished when you compete with superior 2D, no need to get so angry about it.

MAFUMAFU'S SEMEN IN RUSHIA'S PUSSY
FACE THE FACTS

>>18221530
I can't even being to imagine what an anon who was out of the loop for like a week came back here and see all these threads about rushia being a whore. must feel surreal

>>18227203
Arguments of humanity coming from misogynistic anon. And I'm the hypocrite. Seriously seek help.

Daily reminder /jp/ never had these unicorn faggots until cancermelia brought over the subhumans from r9k, the time to purge these unironic sad incel faggots is neigh brothers. Take up arms and cleanse this cancer from our board.

>>18227251
Post physique, Chad

>>18226972
I don't think you understand how much people like you tell on yourselves. You are an open book insofar as to what is actually upsetting to you about this situation. A girl who plays a character online has a personal life that is not in alignment with who they play on stream. In your heart you understand this, but regardless, you cant stand the idea of her actually being with a man. Do you ever wonder why that is?

>>18227108
>cope and seethe for eternity you loveless waste of oxygen faggots. None of you will ever find love and you're undeserving of it. I hope you die without ever hearing a woman (or man, just in case you go gay out of desperation) say "I love you" and die childless. Imagine wasting your 20s simping over an anime gif with eyes that clip and are poorly animated instead of washing your nasty greasy faces and getting a job and finding a woman and having kids with her and building an average, normal life. You want to have your cake and eat it too, you want to just sit there huffing your own farts while a woman does all the labor for you while you do absolutely nothing. Well guess what? You could send her your fucking kidneys and she still owes you nothing. After all, you're one of many rabid degenerate faggots who simp over her. You're, and always will be, nothing but a random string of letters with a poorly compressed anime avatar to her. Nothing more and nothing less. Your agnoy sustains me.

>>18227225
Anon, we all know they're retarded hypocrites with worthless opinions.

>>18227282
that's me. and this thread contains some of the strangest posts i've read on this website. not in content but in psychology.

i thought this would be a bigger shitshow though. a stickied thread like when coco retired at least. there really isn't a worse candidate for this kind of scandal in the company.

>>18227248
Oil baron chads..

>>18227225
None in any corpos

Maybe some 2view indie but who gives a fuck

The entire virtual girlfriend thing is VERY dangerous. Both for the people involved and in terms of the societal impact.

>>18227217
It's good you got fucked over actually, dumb fuck like you deserves to learn a lesson not to waste their money. Go do drugs or something for your next dopamine rush fool.

>>18227256
Why none? Shouldn't they be upfront about this? They don't want to lie to keep up the kayfabe right?

>>18227303

>>18227057
Are you fucking serious retard? Maybe its because something faggots like you parrot ad naseum in lieu of an actual argument? Because I've seen "you" probably tens of thousands of times and you are all interchangeably shallow and narcissistic. The only sort of value that you can seemingly find in life is having sex, the fact that its even something you think validates you means that you probably are beyond vapid and an utter slave to the nihilistic consumerism of modern society. If its doesn't matter then why do you mention it so often, could it that it reveals how you think?

>>18227289
>incel
go back

>>18227190
mutts law in action. I say your wife has to be the one worrying about "cheating with niggers". Can't seem to get them off your mind can you?

>>18227396
no one has anything to gain by being upfront about this. it would just stir up shit and japanese PR tactics is to bury things as quickly as possible.

>>18227108
Nice whiteknighting on anime imageboard. Shame there's no woman here and nobody's going to support you.

>>18227409
Did you eat a vacuum?

>>18227370
well at some point meidos here have become really neutered and we slowly but surely are in need of a new website

>>18227362
You simply have a perception that you started out with, you use any evidence to back up what you've already concluded before you came here, but its a waste of time to argue with you, dunning kruger afflicted narcissistic scum.

>>18227362
Quick question, do you watch any of Rushia's content?
And no, watching random clips doesn't count.

https://files.catbox.moe/26box6.mp4

https://files.catbox.moe/b1zjch.mp4

>>18227458
no I just got anime punched real hard

>>18227409
my friend had this because he had marfan's syndrome. i was high one time and noticed his fingers were unusually slender and long and i reached towards his chest through his sweater and felt the void. that was such a surreal moment.

>>18227108
Epic post that you'll screencap to post on twitter for free clout

>>18227416
you go back nigger it's not my fault you can't get pussy, fuck out of my hobby that you faggots hijack.

>>18227281
Unironically if she had a kid, and a message came up from them asking her to pick them up from school, it would have been cute and everyone would have gone on about how wholesome it was. The issue is his semen isn't in her pussy. Get on with it, Mafumafu, you fucking coward.

>>18227391
>go do drugs
Ah yes, more normalfaggot bullshit. Don't you have niggercum to guzzle you worthless whore?

>>18227410
So you are actually retarded, just start with that and don't waste my time. Getting mad at people having sex reveals how simple your mind is, retard.

>>18227268
60% percent of men in a given generation never reproduce compared to just 10% of females. your beloved rushia is currenlty of the 90% of females while you remain in the 60%

>>18227488
>https://files.catbox.moe/b1zjch.mp4
I hope he finds happiness somewhere in this cruel world, poor guy.

>>18227452
Pretty sure you're responding to an angry fugugly fujo based on that post. A man wouldn't say
>you want to just sit there huffing your own farts while a woman does all the labor for you while you do absolutely nothing
Reads just like a bitch angry her bf won't wash the dishes

>>18222399
WTF Tara Strong is married???

kekw this thread

>>18227528
go back to virtue signalling on twitter cuck

>>18227553
So what's stopping you from going out and getting your womb pumped, fattie?

>>18227217
Okay but next to none of her fans have turned on her. Her top paypigs are fine and waiting for her. The majority of her haters are people who hate vtubers. Hate from people who hate vtuber buta and gachikoi and enjoying the love of her gachikois. How exactly does she deserve it when her fans aren't the ones hating her?

>>18227288
Why do you think that women are devoid of blame? Like somehow to you women having consequences for lying to the people who pay for their entire lives is wrong because what, they had to pretend to be the girlfriend of the lonely people in chat? I don't think you know real suffering and I'm also fucking tired of people acting morally superior by highlighting the flaws of their enemies, and minimizing their own. You if anything are misogynistic, because you believe that a woman lacks agency and responsibility for their actions and cannot be judged by anyone else, despite that being the case for men and every generally.

>>18227020
Do you know what a reaction image is, you sperg?
When did you learn about idols? How much merch do you own? How many chants do you know? Have you ever worn a happi? You niggers talk a lot about idols but all you mean by that is an upper class e-girl whore. Stop tainting things other people like.

>>18227114
I don't think that chuubas selling GFE to lonely tards are good and I don't watch them. I strongly believe that you retards should stop giving them your money.
>they made an agreement to act with a pretense and she went all in on the facade.
Can you show me the contract or is it true because it was real in your head?
>She did this to manipulate lonely people
If you want to go down this rabbit hole then we can argue about modern technology, propaganda, advertisement and how it all relates to violence all day. As is, manipulating someone is not a thought crime.
>you just lack the concept that your actions can have consequences
Rich coming from a retard whining about about a bunch of autists falling for a scam and arguing that they are not at fault because apparently loneliness is an incapacitating mental illness.

>>18227528
YAAAAAAS DEFEND OUR QUEENS!!11!! YOU GO SISTER

>>18227362
>woman grooms lonely men into thinking they have a special connection with her
>woman obsessively emotionally massages her audience into a parasocial relationship
>woman goes out of her way to make examples out of men of her audience that dare to seek out other women's content
>woman goes so far into emotional conditioning that she sells engagement rings, and repeatedly states she is loveless and lonely
>woman assumes a parasocial approximation of a girlfriend, and reinforces it with surgical callousness repeatedly.
>woman's incentive is obviously monetary.
>woman takes advantage of male psychology, and specifically the psychology of lonely, dejected, and poorly socialized men, to extract resources
She is the victim alright.

>>18227482
Even this is so telling. I wish I could gift you some self-awareness. You're feelings are not the engima you think they are.

>>18227605
remember it's down the road not across the street "lonely man"

These posts were funny for the first 2 days now it’s just annoying.

>>18227640
>Stop tainting things other people like.
He says as he actively anti's Rushia to ruin something other people like. Neck yourself faggot

>>18227546
Lol kill yourself, you can't even bother to make a half hearted disingenuous argument, Just repeat what I said originally but switch around the subject. Like I fucking knew I wasted my time on you, oh well everyone else can see it.

>>18227679
KEKIE KEEP SLURPING

I'm not saying I hope someone finds her address and slices her face, I'm just saying it's way more likely now.

>>18227708
Hey who knows maybe you'll become a tranny once you figure out you'll never fuck anything with a pulse lol.

>>18227632
I never said any of that schizo, stop getting angry over words you put in others mouth. Women are human, men are human. No shit, but clearly you have a issue with women no matter what they do.

>>18227676
You are so fucking ironic, its as if you are a parody of projection. The fact that you are so sure of your self ensures me that you are the retard you seem to be, I just wish people like you would be quiet and let those with actual thoughts speak, you drown out everyone else.

>>18227652
But the vast majority of supposed groom men support her. She's a victim of vtuber haters and dramafaggots like you not, of her fans who are continuing to wait for her and express their love for her

>>18227758
SLUUUUURP SLUUUURP HOW DOES THE MAFUMAFU CUM TASTE?

>>18227679
>Having anything to do with 3DPD
No thanks. You keep seething about those mean nasty incels though

>>18227652
Even if this was the case I still think it's okay. I don't really have empathy for "lonely" men. They tend to predators disguised as prey.

>>18227521
anon, why did you reach towards his chest?

>>18227762
how is that fucking clear, the implication being that what I said was misogynistic, because she manipulated lonely people?

>>18227747
if rushia gets murdered vtubers will officially go mainstream. tucker carlson, the view, ironmouse invited onto CNN, the works.

>>18227786
it tastes good

>>18227785
Her misogynistic incel fans are the ones attacking her right now though?

>>18227692

>>18227839
Good, expose the scam.

>>18227488
oh... that second one is actually sad

>>18227807
i had read about marfan's syndrome previously and suddenly suspected that he might have it. when i felt the concave chest my suspicions were confirmed and i felt very powerful.

>MUH HECKING INCELERINOS

>>18227798
Do you honestly believe that or are you deluding yourself and everyone else to justify your utter callous hypocrisy? Like I said to you in the other thread, if you weren't a piece of shit people wouldn't respond negatively to you, I don't think you've ever been sorry about anything you've done in your life, because I don't think you have the capacity to accept blame or judgement, but have no problem giving it to others.

vtubers are more predatory than gacha

>>18227798
Based misandrist

>>18227521
your friend is mafu mafu?

>>18227785
>emotionally conditioned, mentally ill people are unable to break their conditioning


Women that defend their husband that beats them only to show affection and engage in grooming behavior and petting later, absolutely deserve it. The battered wife syndrome, as well as the Stockholm syndrome, are actually moot, since the victims seek out their victimizers.

All's well. Women most affected. Incels are subhuman. Trans rights are human rights. Get vaccinated. Eat the bugs. Live in the pod.

>>18227886
You absorbed his heart, bro? Did he died? ngl Id feel extremely powerful too...

>>18227773
lmao you are so far removed from your own motivations its disheartening . Next time I have sex I'll pray for u.

>>18227701
The only thing every else can see you're retarded, and people make the correct assumptions in reality as well that youre a creep. You can get mad about it, or try to be a better person, and maybe one day make real friends and have a relationship. But ofcorse you won't do that.

>>18227488
lmao the first one killed me at the end

>>18227605
you'd know all about cucking right? "lonely man"

>>18227785
Not that anon but...

>the vast majority of supposed groom men support her
They are emasculate cucks if they do.

>She's a victim of vtuber haters and dramafaggots
You mean people pointing out that she has been running an immoral scheme based on parting lonely men from their hard earned cash?

You are completely right that I'm not in the target audience of this type of content. I don't watch any vtubers outside of a bunch of clips because I find their content to be mostly cringe and boring and I wouldn't want to waste my precious time on earth with this kind of drivel.
But that doesn't mean that I can't have sympathy for people that are being exploited or that I can't point out obviously immoral business practices.

>>18227957
I'M WITNESSING ONE RIGHT NOW
KEEP SLURPING

>>18227907
Gacha is way worse in terms of pure money combined with the gambling element. Cope genshitter

>>18223836
I was surprised how many people just don't see it as that. A lot of people I know who are like "we don't understand this vtuber thing" and the reddit word parasocial has entered their vocabulary and they really treat it as this new thing, but I am like, niggers, you all played Yakuza, don't tell me you skipped on cabaret clubs. Those aren't made up game thing, those are real. And Vtubers essentially fulfill the same function.

What do you get when you cross some mentally ill loners with a woman who gets exposed for lying to them for money?
You get what you fucking deserve

>>18227488
that second one is top tier comedy. turns out japs can into irony

>>18227988
i would rather spend my money on gacha than spend it on an imaginary woman milking mentally ill fans as a job

>>18227974
Why are you on this board? It's bad enough without crossboarder faggots like you shitting it up even more.

>>18227927
You are begging the question because no one agrees with your assertion faggot, if you feel that way then please, stop crying about muh hecking minoritrinos and muh trans rites. I guess you are saying transsexual people deserve to be suicidal because they fell for social conditioning that made them think that because they act feminine, they have to alter their hormones and permanently disfigure themselves?

>>18227992
WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY

>>18227988
VTubing is pretty cancerous too. People are baited into para-social relationships and the only way to reciprocate is by spending money in the form of superchats.

>>18227798
It will be easier to just drop the post-hoc rationalizations and mental calisthenics, and just come right out and say you hate men.

You are like a bulldyke with extra steps. You hate men, and are unable to experience any empathy or sympathy towards men. You have dehumanized men and only consider them as beasts of burden that collect your trash, keep the lights on, keep your water running, and unclog your toilet. Own it.

>>18227992
BASED

>>18228083
Go back tourist

>>18227901
This isn't true. I've made lots of mistakes with people very close to me. I've had to take responsibility for the ways I hurt them and work to earn back their forgiveness. Sometimes I don't know if I'll ever be truly worthy of the love and grace they give me. I still honestly believe most lonely men are pretty terrible human beings. That's generally why they're lonely. Genetics and "femoids" are strong scapegoats though.

>>18227927
>a mentally broken physically weak woman deserves to get beaten by an irrational man who has 48% her upper body strength

please do your part in increasing the male suicide rate.

>>18228087
It's a woman. If she wasn't a disgusting pig ugly whore with a soul as black as coal then we wouldn't need vtubers in the first place.

>>18227689
we're not done yet. there's still rushia's response

>>18227931
>>18227932
Neither of you have an argument beyond what you already thought before you even came here, exactly my point, you concluded the argument before it began, explaining this to you though its a waste because you know perfectly well, if you don't then you are so fucking deluded. Like do you think repeating something in a confident tone makes you correct? Or do you ever question yourself at least once?

>>18228087
But some of my closest friends are men. I think they can be really cool.

>>18228168
we're not limited to head shaving with 2d characters. rushia can really get creative with her penance.

>>18227974
Sure but she's not reaping hate from the fans she betrayed. Its not she played with fire and got burned. It's the fire was warm and comfy and wanting her to stay with them, and you're as a westerner upset that the fire doesn't want to burn her. Her Japanese haters just hate vtubers and v豚 in general.

>>18227488
This is actual gold.

>>18228170
Yes.

>>18228230
fucked on stream

>>18228125
Or maybe they seem terrible because you treat people like that as not only pariahs, but completely deserving of it, when they might have done nothing? Can you not see that that might make people hostile?

>>18228142
You think yourself edgy, assertive, and callous with comments like that, but it will only ever come off as self-hating, frightened, and neurotic.
Introspect.

Fans are retarded, every single Oshi fucks, some of them fuck right now. Marine's throat is sure almost exclusively because of all the dick she sucked.

That said, Rushia had it coming, she cultivated the audience that would react the most in this way. It was always a time bomb and I have no pity for a tard who just didn't hear the countdown.

>>18226681
GFE isn't their job. It's what some of them choose to do. And if it turns out they've been explicitly lying, they obviously deserve to be shat on.

>>18228288
>Marine's throat is sure almost exclusively because of all the dick she sucked.
man that's hot

>>18228261
Most just want to blame others for their problems. I've met lonely men who aren't like. They are my friends. But most of them aren't like that. I don't have any desire to help a stranger who doesn't want to help themselves.

>>18228146
the vtubers you follow share those same views and laugh at you after the stream ends.

>>18228288
I mean yeah thats the entire point, Rushia is like the antithesis of this happening in how she presents herself.

>>18227992
>You get what you fucking deserve
Love and support from her fans?
All I see is seething by a bunch of irrelevant powerless idiots who psyop'd themselves into thinking that they are being sold some sort of an experience.

>>18228267
nice projection cuck

>vtubers are making lonely men believe there might be some genuine women out there who aren't your typical lying 3DPD whore
>this happens and makes these same men lose their trust in women again
Maybe this is what the normalniggers were trying to tell us all along. All women are whores

>>18226451
Assuming all of this is true and they weren't just friends or Kore doing retarded shit, Rushia isn't blameless, exploiting people especially emotionally and psychologically proved like gachikois is revolting. But they were the first to actually believe willingly into the lie that somehow a woman behind an avatar had any kind of emotions towards them, i remember the threads about how JPs actually loved their fanbase and would never betray them like not even a week ago, because they liked that lie. And for that lie they searched for a vtuber that would give them what they want and, again assuming all of this is true, Rushia was more than willing to exploit that lie, which again ties up to the fact that nothing good comes out of a lie, especially not something like love.
Gonna be even more permissive to gachis simply because people don't fucking know what love is anymore and that makes it easily exploitable because it's completely mudded up, normalfags aren't immune to this also nor are women but men are usually the ones who pay the price more.

I get all the cynicism, but everyone agrees that parasocial relationships are bad.
Some people just can't admit that baiting people into parasocial relationships is bad, too.

>>18228363
Blaming others for their problems is extremely common from everyone lately, you don't have to help them but its not the same to call them undeserving of empathy or that they somehow are less justified in their suffering.

>>18227488
i wanna fuck that mafufan

>>18228060
Were you legitimately unable to discern the sarcasm in the post you quoted or are you so deep in your virtue-signalling histrionics that it's affected your orbitofrontal function?


It's a pretty basic comparison.
People dismiss the fact that these women take advantage of men and condition them to provide them with resources.
People do not dismiss the fact that men take advantage of women and condition them through violence and affection into being codependent and helpless, to the point they seek them out and are unable to get away from the cycle of abuse.


Takeaway,
Hypocrites do not care about issues when it's women that are the victimizers and men are the victims, even when they are identical in methodology, underlying psychology, and results.

>>18227488
Wait what, something like that happened? What's the context? Who's the girl crying?

>>18228047
I am here out of love for my fellow man.

>>18228240
>you're as a westerner upset that the fire doesn't want to burn her
It would be a bit upsetting if they let her get away with it but either way it won't keep me from pointing out the immoral nature of this sort of business.

Would your oshi want this fighting, would she want this drama? Peace is the only way forward, the only way to let go of your anger, your depression. Love your oshi, but love yourself the most.

>>18228502
I would agree with this but then I look at this thread and remember why my empathy isn't extended. The way they blame others for their problems and the others they blame is directly linked to the empathy shown.

>>18228116
Are you implying it's not true? Only the audience has to pay to get their voices heard.

>>18228597
They do not care if infighting happens.
They're a business, they only care that you're giving them money.

>>18228450
Yeah I agree, I mean its very obvious what the reality was. Its just I think people who "advocate" seem to think that you can do nothing wrong to men, and they completely minimize anything a particular "disenfranchised group" might do culturally or generally because I think they have this idealistic conception of those groups and have an equally negative view of uh men I guess.

yes

>>18228560
I thought you were being a retard but I agree with you, your argument was just kinda vague. Poes law etc

>>18228537
If she started vtubing after this, I would become her no.1 simp

If anything this whole situation shows how fragile Hololive's business model is, if all it takes to lose your golden goose is one discord notification.
>But they will be extra careful from now on
Yeah, and everyone else will have to walk on eggshells at least for a while, and let's be real, if they still didn't learn after 3 years of yabs coming and going, they won't learn now.

>>18228597
I'll keep moving forward all right.

>>18228600
Well I see a lot of vicious shit from both sides, in this thread.

>>18228448
The people that dubbed women three-dimensional pig disgusting are also, correctly, including vtubers in that.
It's actual women encroaching in a niche that's populated by inexperienced and lonely men, in order to extract resources. It's that simple.
Anime, ie 2D, are pure because they are creations of the male mind and psyche. They are idealized forms of the feminine.


Vtubers are like the wasp that pretends it's a bee through its colors. It's aggressive mimicry.

It's not about s constant belief that they care.
It's the rush of chemicals in your brain you get when they respond to you that is indistinguishable from a real life connection.
It's subconscious. It's automatic. It's a normal response because we've only gotten these feelings in person for millions of years. It doesn't matter how much you try to think "over" it, if you're lonely and someone shows you affection, even if you paid them to, it's the exact same feeling.

>>18228878
touch a real woman

>>18228896
Gain IQ.

>>18222296
> Amouranth did the same thing.
> she's still making bank
JP schizos are definitely on another level, but none of the folks attacking Rushia are her "fans" in any way, they are nijiniggers and holoantis who were waiting for something like this to drop.
and they fell right into the trap, watch what happens next, it's gonna be fun

>>18228921
go out for a walk, talk with the local wildlife

>>18228600
>Only men are capable of being delusional retards who blame others for their problems.
The absolute state of women.

>>18227839
If we get Perfect Blue IRL, I might actually coom

>>18228953
Once you've trained/groomed/conditioned someone sufficiently enough, they will never break the conditioning.
They will engage in cognitive dissonance, rationalization, bargaining, and compartmentalization.
It's painful, uncomfortable, and frightening to reconcile your cognitive dissonance.
The people that are "too far gone" will never break out. They will continue donating, they will continue supporting, they will continue yearning for the ephemeral tings of interaction, they will continue to engage in maladaptive daydreaming.

Sex havers literally can never understand what it's like and shouldn't add their ignorant voices to the conversation.

>>18229134
I understand how pathetic these fucks are because I've never had sex

>>18229134
Normalfags gonna normalfags. It's the same as social people telling depressed people to "just stop being depressed it's your fault", or my personal favorite, telling poor people that "money doesn't make happiness".

>>18229069
and that will continue to make outsiders seethe
it's always funny seeing "American reaction to people actually liking something".

>>18229134
Your being a self-admitted incel is not an argument. Why I as another sexless lonely man should deal with your delusions on top of my problems?

>>18229289
>Why I as another sexless lonely man should deal with your delusions on top of my problems?

Who asked you to?

>>18229378
Retards shitting up my board with stupid drama and thinking that a Hololive member should graduate because there is a bunch of troglodytes who fell for GFE bullshit? Do you think you morons don't affect anyone else or something?

>>18229502
Well then, sounds like you want to solve a problem. That usually requires understanding.

>>18229552
I don't want to solve your problem. I want to solve my problem. Which is the presence of (you). Are you one of those people who think that solution to crime is giving criminals free shit before they can steal it?

>>18228953
well thats because everyone around amouranth has created this entire Persona of "She knows what she's doing and she's just making New twitch metas." And on top of that, those people also help create the new culture of "she should be allowed to do literally anything and make fun of whoever she wants so long as its not about cancer, rape, disease, war victims, or skin color." Once you get beyond the aspect of this and start to fully encapsulate twitch itself. Its literally just 10-20 people who are all friends with one another dictating the entire audience's perspective via massive scale of group think. And you end up with ludwig going "muh parasocial relationships" to mock anyone who becomes too attached and obviously harmed.

>>18228921
leave the basement

glad i'm not a KEK like 98% of /vt/

>>18229891
I'm gonna stay here because of you.

Maybe they really wanted to play a game and it was all a misunderstanding?

>>18230209
Yeah, an adult game.

>>18230297
Well it is definitely a mentally ill thing to jump to the worst case scenario when it comes to getting a DM over Discord. It kind shows how everyone freaking out has never been in a relationship before.

>>18222748
Reddit's majority stance is that Rushia played with fire exploiting mentally ill gachi with her GFE. Twitter and discord is what you're thinking of.

>>18230167
Whatever. It's not like you would be the first /vpol/ unwanted immigrant to stay.

>>18229502
>my board
"""Your board"""? Who the fuck do you think you are? It's everyone's board, fucking deal with it.

>>18223836
This is one of the most on-point posts I've ever seen on 4chan. Or in the internet for that manner.

>>18230399
That's actually interesting. Thought they'd be more cucked, but I guess they were also the ones who got more pissed at Calli last month compared to Twitter as well

>>18230783
Yeah, I came to peace with the idea that I have to share vtuber discussion space on 4chan with delusional faggots who don't care about the content and are just unironically into glorified e-girl twitch streamers with paper thin anime masks like 2.5 years ago. They, on the other hand, seem to think that anyone who doesn't want their mental illness and regular shitflinging meltdowns over latest internet celebrity drama for room temperature IQ morons taking over the vtuber board is an ironic weeb cuck from twitter or some such inane shit. See >>18229134 Every fucking time. It's tiresome.

>>18227409
i actually have this tho not as bad as the pic, really fucked my confidence on the pool class during teenage years