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>> No.18120621

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://youtubeliveen.soraweb.net/ex/バーチャルYouTuber
>https://mix.live-ranking.com/?keyword=バーチャルYouTuber

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/jwfivCFB

>> No.18120699
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TALLY OF THE DAY

>41,275: Toya (Nijisanji)
>34,815: Okayu (Hololive)
>27,026: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>25,890: Rushia (Hololive)
>21,458: Calli (Hololive)
>21,424: Vox (Nijisanji)
>19,849: Miko (Hololive)
>17,849: Pekora (Hololive)
>17,640: Suisei (Hololive)
>16,813: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>14,493: Hal (merise)
>14,487: Ange (Nijisanji)
>14,272: Pekora (Hololive)
>12,950: Ina (Hololive)
>12,938: Ina (Hololive)
>12,596: Botan (Hololive)
>12,418: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>12,188: Fubuki (Hololive)
>11,844: Korone (Hololive)
>11,591: Mumei (Hololive)
>10,821: Baelz (Hololive)
>10,787: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,772: Lui (Hololive)
>10,121: Gatchman (Indie)

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Today's superchats

>> No.18120899

>>18120427
>Even Finana's song is doing well
>First original song buff
>Biggest English lanuage Vocaloid producer buff
>Funnel from outfit reveal buff
Nah, its kind of a failure. Compare it to SPARKS which was also made by KIRA. Not even close.

>> No.18120959

/#/ is declining.

>> No.18121007
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*EN tally of yesterday*

Here it goes
>21,458: Calli (Hololive)
>21,417: Vox (Nijisanji)
>16,843: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>13,051: Ina (Hololive)
>12,938: Ina (Hololive)
>11,591: Mumei (Hololive)
>10,821: Baelz (Hololive)
>6,222: IRyS (Hololive)
>5,669: Luca (Nijisanji)

>> No.18121134
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>their audience is not from their market, they’re all from China and SEA
>our streamers only stream part time, they are not full time streamers and have other projects
>they may be trailing on superchat now but it’s because they make more money on merchandise
>even if the streamer won’t stream the company is making money out of their image with merchandise and sponsorships
>the new gen may be lacking but wow, weren’t the first streamers in our branch the biggest in the world when they first appeared?
>we may be trailing this month but we beat them on the lifetime earnings
Weren’t these all arguments used by the Niji JP nunberfags trying to rationalize their streamers performance in comparison with Hololive in late 2019 / early 2020?
Were they right?

>> No.18121145

>every single holoEN streamer is secretly overworked creating music and art for the rest of the company but they can't reveal it because they are hidden martyrs

>> No.18121193

Council, please forgive IRyS and stop overlapping her.

>> No.18121219

>You cannot reply to this thread anymore
/#/ is declining.

>> No.18121326

>>18120677
If you're talking about the FalseEye and Khyo, yeah they're still "news" channels and avoid covering irl drama till later when it's settled.
Rev and Hero Hei on the other hand, might jump on it faster. But they've both been canceled before for bad vtuber news coverage.

>50k get for SpaceX btw
Clear Rocket ch streaming her watch along as always
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UI7oEmlREY

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>> No.18121387
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It’s 9PM in NYC right now and these are the ongoing streams.

>Hololive
>no one is live

>> No.18121425

Q 7 days 3.53M

>> No.18121461

>>18121357
Bae inclining!

>> No.18121545

>>18121387
lucky for you there is 4upcoming streams you can look forward to, one in just 15minutes even

>> No.18121597

>>18121461
She solved the mystery!

>> No.18121693

>>18121145
Great things are coming! Any day now. Any day...

>> No.18121700

>>18121007
kys

>> No.18121702

>>18121387
I swear nijiEN had more than 3 collabs per day for the whole week, meanwhile holoEN got, uh, /r/eddit karaoke and uh... a highlight of 2021 (in february) in 720p

>> No.18121804

>>18121326
Hei definitely won't. He needs an unambiguous yab that his own fanbase and the more general holofags can get behind. Never heard of Rev getting cancelled by vtuber community but won't be surprised about it either, but his fans aren't as rabid and evangelical as the other three so I didn't consider him much.

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>>18121357
I was going to make fun of Kronii for only being slightly ahead of Miko's twitch account. Then I saw Haato and Matsuri right there. Thats kind of depressing to see these 2 at this spot.

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chink

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Been paying so much attention to Chloe's rise to the top I didn't notice Iroha has started taking down some big names too

>> No.18122136

>>18121134
>>their audience is not from their market, they’re all from China and SEA
Wow wouldn't it be amazing if we could see where they were getting superchats from and how they perform in different timezones?

>> No.18122344

>>18121145
>overworked
not overworked but they definitely have way more additional non streaming work than your traditional streamer

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>>18121357
>Iroha 2nd in her gen in Avg CCV so far
My investment in Iroha is paying dividends

>> No.18122754

So this is proof that nijien is getting pushed by chink agitprop, right?

>> No.18122758

>>18122478
She’s got a good following and she’s next to Iroha in vod views too. The other 3 have absolute dogshit viewership whereas people actually do tune into Iroha quite often it seems

>> No.18122837

>>18122758
Next to Laplus*

>> No.18122948

>>18121425
Very very impressive considering it wasn't on Gura's channel.

>> No.18122951

>Gura clip
>Released on her channel
>130k after 7 hours
Gura....

>> No.18122975

>>18122478
I have it in (pink) dog coin. I am very pleased right now.

>> No.18123039

>>18121702
Cover management....

>> No.18123078

>>18122131
Damn, Sara also had 2 big paydays too, with her Apex diamond and the Apex gatcha

>actually checked numbers
Oh, 5.8k$ and 1.7k$, nvm orca and even Iroha make double that in normal streams.

>> No.18123101

>>18121702
Oddly enough putting out so many streams is actually hurting their visibility. They are treating youtube like twitch. Constantly putting streams out isn't allowing any of them to catch onto the algorithm.

>> No.18123146

>>18122975
>>18122478
I got you both beaten. I have both Pink Dog and Gozaru coins.

>> No.18123157

>>18122951
It’s been gaining steam the past 3 hours, notably this one. 14k per hr for the first 2 of those hours, 17k for the last hour. It’s a short video and you got all the international people who’ll check it out later too

>> No.18123213

>>18123157
Yeah, that's cause this is her usual streaming time

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>>18122131
Pokobe fund pls understand

>> No.18123369

Will Rushia stream?
The drama buff stream will be at 50K?

>> No.18123478

>>18123369
Cover will need to clear a slot for her NOTICE stream so unlikely to be today unless you see people shifting their timeslots.

>> No.18123531

>>18123369
I just hope she doesn't have a meltdown and is taking this with a poised upper lip.

>> No.18123571

So... are we all going to pretend the doomposts here about how Rushia is done never existed if she ends up getting her usual SC numbers 2 months from now?

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Boobie battle

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>>18122758
Yep, been tracking HoloX numbers since debut and saw her potential as being the 2nd in her gen. My belief has been repaid.

>>18122975
>>18123146
We're eating good boys. Consistent streams and good content. Keep the faith

>> No.18123628

>>18123571
Prepare the grudgepost anon

>> No.18123664

>>18123571
This is seriously so much less than ZA HANDO and ZA HOSTO and Matsuri is doing pretty much the same as before.

>> No.18123677

>>18123571
Please let Rushia stay alive 2 months from now.

>> No.18123744

>>18122951
The only similar comparison I can thought of in hololive is this one from Pekora, I think there were more in early days hololive but it's not comparable to this era.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZCS6WBanuI

>> No.18123763

>>18123664
Matsuri is Matsuri, do you think anyone even remotely connected to reality support her?

>> No.18123852

>>18123744
This was a paid promo clip tho.
Gura's clip is going to do fine anyways, these highlight reel types of clips rack up lots of views over time.

>> No.18123887

>>18123744

Lamy also have one

https://youtu.be/3UxMfAqlmXo

>> No.18123901

>>18123677
Noel owns a few condos, she'll be able to go in hiding if need be.

>> No.18124002

>>18123852
This. People ITT are retarded number apes that don't understand Gura's channel now has a fucking video called "Gawr Gura clips" which will show up when you search gawr gura clips. All they're thinking instead is
>ook ook numbers not big like reflect ook ook what a flop

>> No.18124013

Kronii is playing Rushia simulator.
9K now
Drama buff?

>> No.18124014

>>18123852
No Japanese or Korean subtitles is a mistake though.

>> No.18124101

>>18123901
That won't stop Rushia from committing sudoku, she is a retard that regularly ego search and get depressed.

>> No.18124148

>>18124013

>Drama buff?

morelike no overlap at this time. only her and noel streaming

>> No.18124146

>>18124014
This is true.

>> No.18124200

>>18124013
No, expected numbers for this timeslot and no overlap, it will certainly recline to 10k+

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Not the kind of deflecting announcement anons expected and since they're announcing a whole bunch, should be unrelated to the Rushia situation.
Big sales numbers expected nonetheless.

Goodsmile released among others Aqua, Noel and Marine figure images.
Nendoroid for Pekora, Sasaki, Kanae etc also announced.
https://twitter.com/gsc_kahotan/status/1491933518699528193?t=IZkeDl_4chjR1-Q7yxV1tA&s=19

>> No.18124284

>>18124200(me)
incline I mean, brain bloken

>> No.18124350

10k get, nice to see kronii get her usual number after so long.

>> No.18124378

>>18123571
I always own up when I'm wrong but I don't see her coming out of this unscathed. She won't be forced to graduate or anything retarded but she's never going to be anywhere near the same dominant force in superchats as she was before

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>>18124148
>10k get
against Noel AND a spaceship launch.

Also, wth, Nane at almost 1k again.
The incline is permanent.

>> No.18124455

>>18123887
There's also Botan's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Z-aXuBveMs
And Aqua's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pHkss5g6os

So yeah Gura's doing fine

>> No.18124491

>>18124350
Thank god kronii isn't a nintendotard and play pokemon like ina. Nintendo game are number poison unless smash and marika.

>> No.18124512

>>18123478
If she wants to lie about it, there's a few angles she can go for.
1) Everyone knows she's old and close friends with Mafumafu and her gachis that dox her already know about the old stuff
2) Can just say they're making a song together which is why he's informing her of his whereabouts, as mafumafu digs through his rejects for a track to make to not seem total BS

Most of her viewership won't care about the yab, the gachis who believe her will stay, the ones who don't will leave.

>> No.18124650

>>18124148
Also she is doing a bit of pandering and voice acting all the lines. This is a buff for her. I'm surprised she doesn't have more viewers actually since her audience of degenerates wants her to pander more.

>> No.18124661

>>18124455
Let's compare this with a direct and recent equivalent:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSwUyuy8t4g

400k (since september). Gura's already 1/4 there.

>> No.18124703

>>18124512
Korekore pretty much admitted they've been dating. He's gonna spill more later since Mafumafu and Rushia have been going to him for advice and the cat's out of the bag at this point.

>> No.18124718

Bros, if you were a hololiver would you make a point of streaming and reassuring your paypigs even at the risk of indirectly throwing shade on your coworker? I imagine people are gun shy and numbers will go down, you can't let someone else's wreck to fuck your shit up.

>> No.18124721

So much about HoloJP's GFE, how will you guys rank & label EN's GFE? And what's their correspondent to JP member.

>> No.18124761

Yo numberchad. vox slip last night was the funniest shit ever! I guess asian women love to sleep more than watch him get 300k subs.

>> No.18124891

>>18124703
Ok, I'm too unaware of the activities on JP side, who is this Korekore?

>> No.18124896

>>18124703
>Korekore pretty much admitted they've been dating
Really? What a dick. Just keep it to yourself.

>> No.18124905

>>18124718
And look like a traitor to the larger fanbase?

Yeah, that plan will definitely help with numbers anon.

>> No.18124919

>>18124718
No you just ignore it

>> No.18124927

>>18124761
kek.

>> No.18124945

>>18124661
That seems easily reachable. This gargantuan however
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm1k8TI790Y

>> No.18124950

>>18124905
>>18124919
Shion and Kanata did that right after ZA HANDO and no one gave them shit.

>> No.18124969

>>18124449
She was really able to capitalize off her new outfit

>> No.18124977

>>18124703
Seeking advice from drama channel? What the fuck?

>> No.18124992

>>18124718
No point drawing attention on yourself like that. I hope they take this event as a reminder to double check on their own opsec instead.

>> No.18125025

>>18124896
Smart move, pretty much blackmailing Mafumafu and Cover to pay him to shut up.

>> No.18125038

>>18124977
Do you really believe everything you read online?

>> No.18125041

>>18124761
But he got a lot of money.
New SC king

>> No.18125056

>>18124721
Mori>Kiara>Gura>Ame>Irys>the rest doesn't do GFE.

>> No.18125079

>>18124891
>who is this Korekore?
JP Keemstar. 110k CCV avg.
Jun's only competition in Japan.

>> No.18125088

>>18121387
>niji en males stream in US timezone
>CCV drop From 10k to 3.5k
LMAO

>> No.18125093

>>18124761
The slip was pretty nice seeing him come within 41 viewers of Mori and then just collapsing and failing to capture gold. It might have been as funny as the Kuzuha Vampire slip but unfortunately the thread was occupied with the Rushia bullshit.

>> No.18125136

>>18124950
Considering i don't remember anything of that nature, must have not made the rounds.

Guess if you do it low-key enough... would it even matter then?

>> No.18125140

>>18125025
Cover will just let her squirm. mafumafu probably wants to cover his ass.
>>18125038
We're the designated shitting thread on the designated shitting board on the designated shitting site.

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>>18124891
jp keemstar

>> No.18125174

>>18124703
>Mafumafu and Rushia have been going to him for advice
yeah sure. that's real believable.

>> No.18125185

>>18125140
And yet people still believe stuff they read here

>> No.18125203

>>18124718
Kanata will

>> No.18125228

>>18124945
>sep 14, 2020
Myeah I don't think it will be easy to beat a debut buffed video

>> No.18125247

>>18125185
But the mafu schizo was right all along...

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>>18125041
Cute.

>> No.18125289

>>18125136
It was a big deal but it made the rounds on matome. Just Shion assuring her viewers that no one is in her apartment to eat the food she makes nor does she get visitors and cracks up. Kanata assured her viewers no man enters her apartment and she won't betray her listeners.

>> No.18125319

>>18124718
No. You shit on your own fanbase and declare them antis. Worked really well in the past. Also, don't "indirectly". Do it direct.

>> No.18125345

>>18124205
Not the best deflecting announcement but its a start. They need something bigger. At least so the Seaclippers and EOPs don't get involved

>> No.18125400

>>18124891
Drama channel.
Basically called the two idiots for making such a basic mistake. Said he's been keeping things a secret for a long while.

>> No.18125403

https://youtu.be/iH5jFLqzgfc
Another EN joins the fray

>> No.18125405

>>18125093
Def top 5 slip of all time lmao.

>> No.18125441

>>18123887
>>18124455
>2 months
>1 year
>less views than your average Gura vid or clip
Lmao and they said gen 5 was a success

>> No.18125459

>>18121007
VOXX SLIP

>> No.18125495

>>18125400
Right on the first point but the second point was not necessary. Also I'm gonna have to ask for a citation.

>> No.18125540

>>18125400
Yep, the drama channel didn't just drop the info when he got it right away like any self respecting drama channel would do. Definitely believable.

>> No.18125643

>>18125540
Now is the perfect time to drop it. With all the outrage, the views will definitely be bigger than dropping it randomly without any evidence.

>> No.18125650

>>18125495
>>18118345

>> No.18125691

>>18125228
The other clip was the one having debut buff. This on got the can't-play-the-game-because-of-hackers-or-something-so we'll-have-to-clip-it hype buff

>> No.18125726

>>18125643
And had Rushia not been a tech illterate retard? He's going to hold on to that info forever?

>> No.18125975

>>18124703
Retard.

>> No.18125977

Vox stream:
1.Jap learning
2.Ringfit
3.FNAF
What a numberfag.

>> No.18126048

>>18125726
Does it matter why he hides it for them? Let's just hope for some juicy scoop.

>> No.18126075

>>18125977
All he needs is ASMR and an off Collab date with Mysta

>> No.18126141

>>18126075
While singing King on a deserted island?

>> No.18126171

>>18125400
>YEAH DUDE I ALWASY KNEW
dyrbi?
the again is classic drama channel

>> No.18126228

>>18125650
It's funny that in that clip, he's only talking about how mafumafu is fucked and doesn't mention Rushia's roommate being fucked at all.
Literally said 90% of mafumafu's fans are crazy female fans who want to fuck him.

>> No.18126245

>>18126075
already did asmr and dating.

>> No.18126383

>>18126075
>OFF COLLAB COCK STROKING WITH MYSTA!!!! (ROOSTERS BTW)

>> No.18126384

>>18125650
The idea that they'd tell a dramafag about their personal life when they do what they do for jobs is hilarious. Also not fucking numbers. kys

>> No.18126388

>>18126228
Simple as this
>Say anything that could actually get his asssued, and he gets dragged to court
>Say anything that he doesn't have actual hard evidence for, get dragged to court
>Say vague shit that can be spun into rrats /here/ and on 5ch? Profit off of drama without directly stating anything

>> No.18126470

>>18126228
As much as le ebil unicorns can be jackasses they're useless and will probably mellow out. vtuber antis and fujos won't let it die.

I remember there was a shitpost poll on 2channel and idolfags were considered the most benign and train autists were considered potential serial killers. This is ten years old, so before the eye reflection thing.

>> No.18126633

>>18124512
1) Doing this will make the degree of intimacy(miichan) believable, but this is equal to outright admitting that you have been a manipulating bitch lying about being lonely and predating on people believing in you. Probably not the best in terms of PR.
2) Sadly this doesn't help explaining why this mafumafu guy was pretty intimate chatting with her, which is also the crux of the problem.

Also for her viewership, in gacha terms it's the 'dolphins' that's about to get hit hard.
The 'whales' a.k.a. her most loyal unicorns like that Orca guy will never back down, sunk cost fallacy in their head is literally making that impossible. The 'f2p', or just someone not a member and/or never superchatted before also have little reason to give a shit to this drama since they invested nothing but time in her. The 'dolphins' though, in this case a member or probably someone who superchatted her like once in awhile, are those who are prone on leaving her behind. They invested a small to medium sum, and turns out it's going to shit so the most logical choice is to cut their losses immediately.

>> No.18126691

>>18126075
The Vox and Mysta off collab date already happened.

https://youtu.be/SWDTdXH6oF0

>> No.18126762

Just came back...so KoreKore will take about this...welp is actually over unless Cover or MafuMafu pull something.

>> No.18126784

Cow tits 10k playing zelda da fuck?

>> No.18126787

>>18126470
>As much as le ebil unicorns can be jackasses they're useless and will probably mellow out.
Ah Arthur, how is he doing these days btw

>> No.18126915

>>18126787
Eh was it Arthur or Alfred?

>> No.18126924

>>18126762
Cover isn't gonna do anything one way or another. It's not their culture to take a step further into personal lives of their contractors. Rushia is on her own, she needs mafumafu to do something and have her friends give her support.

>> No.18126947

>>18126784
Noel zelda is fun because she so bad and dumb it's good.

>> No.18126956

It's impressive how both Mafumafu and Rushia are this retarded considering how big and experienced they are online. I'd thought I was watching some sort of soap drama.

>> No.18127005

And now half of HoloEN is streaming at the same time what the fuck

>> No.18127021

>>18127005
Better than not streaming.

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>>18127005
Pic related

>> No.18127097

>>18126762
Rushia will be fine once it blows over. She might become a lower tier Holo who doesn't pull bank anymore on superchats but she will be protected by Cover and her co-workers will support her. She will still pull some superchats from saviorfags as well. Mafumafu on the other hand might be finished.

>> No.18127104

>>18124703
>>18126762
Same poster btw.

>> No.18127125

>>18127005
West coast prime time. EN3 could probably do with some east coasters.

>> No.18127139

>>18126245
ASMR off-collab with Mysta

>> No.18127141
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>750 views
>2.1k likes
Christ...holoID has got it so much worse than EN

>> No.18127169

>>18127005
maybe management finally gave them a nudge

>> No.18127173

>>18127097
Isn’t he the guy that does a lot of music for Nijisanji too?

>> No.18127178

>>18127097
Retard.

>> No.18127206

>>18127005
EOPs distraction. Stay focused

>> No.18127224

>>18127097
As long as Rushia doesn't leave the box she won't go wanting. The box is the prefect balm to ruining your career. The trick is to not leave the box.

>> No.18127226

>>18126762
Predict the numbers

>> No.18127232

>>18127005
We winning, west coast bros.

>> No.18127296

>>18126691
kek how is this on youtube? wtf susan

>> No.18127320

>>18127206
This would be funny as fuck if true. Doing herculean work just to protect a JP when EN are thrown to the wolves when they need some protection.

>> No.18127490

>>18127320
This, no JP stood up for Mori and Ollie when they were in trouble.

>> No.18127505

>>18127178
I don't I'm retarded. Even if Rushia becomes Mel tier due to fans abandoning her Cover isn't just going to fire her. Unless she wants to graduate herself that is. She will be fine although obviously not the same.

>> No.18127546

>>18127097
>>18127224
What's eop redditor/youtube think about it? Cause you know they are the opposite.

>> No.18127621

>>18126947
That's why I watched her Nioh streams, but Zelda is so piss easy that it's not even much of a challenge.

>> No.18127633

WOULD YOU DRAMAFAGS KNOCK IT THE FUCK OFF?
THERE'S 10+ OTHER THREADS TO FUCK OFF TO IF YOU INSIST ON INDULGING.

>> No.18127635

>>18127505
>Even if Rushia becomes Mel tier due to fans abandoning her Cover isn't just going to fire her.
You're retarded if you think Rushia's general viewership takes a significant dip because of this.

How many unicorn viewers do you think she has?
Most people watch her because "haha soft spoken woman yells like an animal".

>> No.18127638

>>18127097
You mean like Cover 'protected' Aloe? I'd brace for trouble.

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Looks like Haachama videos are finally coming in recommendations again. First one this week that passed 60k too.

Also, wth, she made 6 shorts this week?

>> No.18127693

>>18127206
This isn't your war room, dramafag. Fuck off.

>> No.18127691

>>18127546
From what I've seen a good number of them actually understand why a good number of her fanbase are upset. They are mostly still blaming it on toxic Idol culture, saying Rushia did nothing wrong, and want to support her.

>> No.18127712

>>18127226
KoreKore always pull above 100k so it will mog all Holos and Nijis.

>> No.18127757

>>18127638
Aloe left on her own faggot.

>> No.18127792

>>18127691
Link? I love reading retarded fools comments.

>> No.18127794

>>18127642
Too bad she didn't have this motivation to stream and make content back when she had a sizable audience.

>> No.18127815

>>18127638
Retard.

>> No.18127835

>>18127635
>Most people watch her because "haha soft spoken woman yells like an animal"
Yeah, that is why I watch her. I couldn't give a single shit about the GFE garbage.

>> No.18127846

>>18127642
Isn't her Monetization coming back today?

>> No.18127879

>>18127546
Most people are like "yikes, that's not great".
But no one is schizo enough to actually be upset that a woman in her 30s might have a SO.
At most, they're annoyed that she's been pushing the parasocial stuff really far with engagement rings and shit and that she should probably tone that stuff down.
90% of comments are supportive.

>> No.18127943

>>18127879
And they would be right. EOPs > JOPs confirmed.

>> No.18128088

>>18127635
>>18127835
This is the most retarded EOP take I've ever read.
But maybe not, what I see is that most of her gachis and fans will leave her and she will be Aki-tier with mostly EOP saviorfags as her viewerbase.

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>> No.18128286

>>18128146
Actual mirror lmao

>> No.18128366

>>18128146
More like : boyfriend? Play one!

>> No.18128474

On a side note,
No one is talking about the Gura Taiwan-South Korea video anymore, are they?

>> No.18128524

>>18128146
Kek

>> No.18128567

>>18128474
That was never a thing to begin with faggot.

>> No.18128591

>>18127642
does her channel being tagged for children has any effect on how it was recommended to people?
her numbers doesn't make any sense lately

>> No.18128593

>>18128474
there was barely any talk at all
also almost all the dram of rushia is mostly under mafu.

>> No.18128677

So at this point, we can assume the Rushia yab is dead for good on EN side?

>> No.18128780

>>18128677
EN side barely watched Rushia to begin with. They mostly watched her clips at most.

>> No.18128874

>>18128088
>Not caring about GFE is an EOP take
>Enjoying Rushia's gamer rage is an EOP take
Fuck off faggot

>> No.18128907

>>18128591
It's been talked about a bunch, but the combination of
>Inconsistent scheduling
>Fatigue
>Demontization + age restriction leading to a potential shadowban?
Are the ideas that have been floated.

>> No.18128992

>>18128677
Most normal holofans don't care about it outside of dramafagging, fandeads excluded. There is a massive population that doesn't care about this sort of thing unless it's their oshi.

>> No.18129245

HoloEN needs someone willing to overlap with Gura, both to make sure there's always someone streaming in the slot and so that those who don't WANT to watch Gura during that timeslot have an alternative within HoloEN (and isn't named Sana, the queen of debuffs).
This mass overlap in this later timeslot is kind of brutal.

>> No.18129252

I just looked up this mafumafu faggot and he looks like a fucking alien. How much plastic surgery has he had?

>> No.18129337

>>18129245
Yeah, its annoying. Hours of dead air and then boom, 5 streams all at the same time. They need to coordinate their schedules better.

>> No.18129385

>>18129337
>seethe when they stream
>seethe when they don't stream

>> No.18129559

>>18128146
FUCKING KEK

>> No.18129636

>>18129385
nigga there should be ablance
how is it possible that 5 people decide to stream in the same 2 hours and leave other 20 hrs to only 3 streams?

>> No.18129652

>>18129385
>say they should coordinate their schedules better after hours of dead air
>OMG SEETHING!!! GET REKT FAGGOT!!! MALDING!!!
You are a schizo. I am an IRyS fan who is watching IRyS right now but I would have also really liked to have watched Kronii's stream. Kronii should have started at 7 or 8pm EST to spread the stream out a little more. More potential viewers for everybody.

>> No.18129751

>>18129245
I don’t think it’s gonna work well for anyone. Those who’ve tried to overlap directly on Gura have been crushed and honestly, I think people respect Gura too much to do it consistently. Like yeah, it’s a different culture EN side so I doubt they care all that much but still, it’s the biggest vtuber in the world who practically gave thousands of vtubers an opportunity in their life. I don’t think people want to get inbetween that when they know how important she is.
I’d rather someone fill the 6PM EST slot so that they can funnel into Gura more than anything

>> No.18129770

>>18129385
>late at night in a thrusday
no wonder

>> No.18129809

>>18129385
Look, I'll take overlaps over no streams, but spreading things out a bit > overlap hell.
Understandably, if people are busy in the earlier time slots then so be it, but leaving that big gab between Ina finishing and Kronii starting just because Gura usually streams in there is bad for a 'keeping people interested in watching Hololive and funneling' perspective.

>> No.18129968

>>18129751
IMO, it needs to be someone who's style/content is different enough from Gura such that overlaps aren't COMPLETE murder. There is room there for one other person, but yea probably starting a bit earlier is better than direct overlaps on the slot.

>> No.18129975

>>18129809
It's 18k people watching hololive and not watching something else. Yeah, Gura's time slot should be open to everyone but I prefer 18k watching over 0 which happens some nights.

>> No.18130067

>>18129975
it debuffs everyone when they all start around the same time. it doesnt help that none of thema re collabing but all playing different shit.

>> No.18130251

>>18129809
The ideal schedule would be

The day starts with Kiara at around noon EST. She then funnels into Ina in the afternoon who goes into Bae in the late afternoon/early evening. Bae funnels into Gura who gets the 8pm primetime slot. That goes into Kronii who gets the 10pm EST slot who goes into IRyS who gets the midnight EST time slot.

The others can find their times throughout the day since some overlaps are unavoidable or they can just slip into times when one of the above doesn't stream. Some like Bae and Mori might also take some JP time slots. Somebody should always be available to take that 8pm slot when Gura doesn't stream for example.

>> No.18130325

>>18129975
Well yea. Nights where there was literally nothing except maybe (1) member's only stream....'shudder'
>>18130067
Well yea, with only 11 people, a bit more co-ordination wouldn't hurt.

ALSO IRyS POLL INCOMING.

>> No.18130376

Did Ame just come out of nowhere again?

>> No.18130416

>>18128874
t. EOP clip faggot
The whole metal shit was an EOP thing that even Rushia herself got surprised she was known as like that with kagai nikkis since JOP only saw her a cute pseudo-loli GFE with running jokes like boing boing and teasing her about them watching other girls.
Hell, her whole scream gimmick was seen as an evangelion reference rather than metal related shit.
So yeah, you opinion is retarded nigger EOP take.

>> No.18130452

>>18129245
No. HoloEN needs to learn to box push.
Kiara into Ina into Bae into [insert holos here] into Gura into Ame/Kronii into Mori into Irys etc

>> No.18130474

>>18130376
yeah

>> No.18130582

which club should I join?
Student council (53%)
Track team (24%)
Library staff (21%)

Poll complete: 1.8K votes

2min
that is 60% but need to see how long it takes for it to reach 100%

>> No.18130630

>>18129385
I'm fine with the overlaps, it gives the viewers the power of choice, you are not chained and forced to watch [x]
in other hand, THERE ARE 24 HOURS AND 7 DAYS, only mumei has an "excuse" for her tight scheduling, c'mon
also, they completely failed to capitalize most of the timezones when they had YT all for themselves, only kiara and mori streamed in "JST" hour
today, they would have to compete against the giga buffed luxiem if they want to venture in those timeslots

>> No.18130633

>>18130452
jesas /#/ wants viewers to be handled like a cattle lmaoo

>> No.18130653

>>18123571
>2months
Nah it'll go by as usual by the next stream

>> No.18130672

>>18130582
it probably would have hit 3k within 5 mins, it was still going up pretty steadily.

>> No.18130732

>>18130582
susan revoked the permission of spam viewers to vote in polls, she would never revoke their permission to chat though, people would notice that their messages are not coming out and they would complain

>> No.18130806

>>18130633
The 24/7 hololive relay is the dream anon

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>>18130630
>today, they would have to compete against the giga buffed luxiem if they want to venture in those timeslots
This is the dumbest shit I've ever read. Compete as in..for the same viewers, or for meaningless medals in this thread? Because I can assure you the fucking chink fujos ain't jumping to a Mori stream, and the holofans ain't gonna watch some dude LARP about gurgling semen.

>> No.18130852

>>18130633
that is the goal.

>> No.18130879

>>18130630
>they would have to compete against the giga buffed luxiem if they want to venture in those timeslots
The people watching Luxiem aren't remotely even close to being the same people watching Hololive. There is no competition, lol.

>> No.18130966

>>18127635
Well it kind of depends how the story develops, not sure if holos are even allowed to add outsiders to their discord and whatever because it's used for work and technically owned by Cover but perhaps she actually got permission for mafu, he's not a nobody.
But anyway him showing up there alone is a one thing but if it's true that she set him up as part of some selfish, yandere gay ops during a collab no less then I would say there are grounds for contract termination not just suspension and of course I doubt they would do it to someone so big but shit like that reflects badly on hololive as a whole honestly they might be forced to take some actions and I'm not even sure if Rushia would care at this point if she's really in this state of mind.

>> No.18131004

>>18130841
>>18130879
that's what I said retards, there's not enough people watching holoEN in those hours, it doesn't matter if they are chinks or europoors, they are still viewers lost from those timezones

>> No.18131021

>>18130633
There are basic practices that could improve brand engagement and retention that they just don't do. Considering it's their job they could think about it for 10 minutes.

>> No.18131041

>>18130630
I want to see some legit JP pandering streams from Gura during JP primetime. She has already proven she can pull impressive numbers the few times she has ventured into that time slot. She is also very popular with the JOP fanbase so I think that could be a huge stream.

>> No.18131053

>>18130879
People that watch luxiem are probably mad at Rushia for stealing mafu atm

>> No.18131061

>>18130630
EN streaming in Asia prime time is competing with the JP Holos and the western world being at work. I doubt Luxiem streaming or not would move the needle much.

>> No.18131082

>>18127206
You want a less stupid reason, it's probably because the recording bullshit they've been doing is finally over.

>> No.18131087

>Noel 10k
HoloJP is expanding to the EN timeslots and making their own audience.

>> No.18131114

>>18131004
You literally used the word compete you ESL retard.

>> No.18131275

>>18131087
Her OOT’s stream have been doing pretty good.

>> No.18131317

>>18131087
As they should given how disorganized and mostly barren those time slots have been.

>> No.18131321

>>18131041
I'm not sure it'd end up with massive CCV but another Gura learning japanese stream is something her JP fans have been licking their chops for. It's funny how holos always do this, get some massive success from another language fanbase and never follow up on it despite demand.
Koros-san...I believed in the Doom Eternal stream...

>> No.18131322

>>18126228
Because cover and niji both took this kinda shit seriously. Niji already shown their side on the similar situation and cover will go after this faggot if he mentioned anything with Uruha Rushia on it's name

>> No.18131348

>>18122951
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZcxibUUo4A
Meanwhile Watame at 235k on 6 hours. This series is doing great for her.

>> No.18131381

How in the hell are there 4 active HoloENs right now and they are ALL playing debuff shit (aside from Kronii). Also, none of them are collabing with each other. Fucking hell coordinate your schedules better.

>> No.18131389

>>18130732
Chatters do get randomly shadowbanned. Their messages will show up on their own screen but not on everyone's chat. If you ever see a translator randomly disappear sometimes it's because Susan has decided their messages don't exist.

>> No.18131394

>>18131061
yes, HoloJP already has most of asia in that timeslot, it's natural, but everyone is ignoring EU, there's a reason why they are not invested in vtubers, literally the only one pandering them is kiara and she's not particularly strong, and it's not hard, all you need is someone willing to stream
>competitive FPS
>[WORK] Simulators
>another language
surprised how no one is pandering the spanish market yet, and I don't mean spics, I mean spaniards

>> No.18131496

>>18130966
You know when Holo's commission things and talk to artists/content creators, they talk with their work accounts on twitter/discord right?

Rushia having mafumafu on her work account is a nothingburger.
The yab is him referring to her closely with her pre-hololive nickname on their work accounts.

>> No.18131589

>>18131348
They're shorts. They're practically worthless. I can show you shorts that got 50k+ views and the next stream there were 40 people watching.

>> No.18131588

>>18131381
I'm completely fine with them overlapping if they are debuff games, I just pick someone I like
I would complain if they overlap buff content, I don't want to pick between something that I really want to watch or end up missing half of it because I have both opened

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>>18131321
Amazing how clippers will always pull that stream when gura's on break and still gets decent views.

>> No.18131608

>>18127490
Because only faggots /here/ bitching about it. You dont see fucking keemstar or other big drama channel talk about. Non was connor some kind of national celeb too

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>>18129337
Would be good since four are in AU/JP time. It's funny, even a small corpo can balance it better than Hololive, and those are often filled with part time streamers. This isn't even mentioning Niji EN which almost doesn't have dead hours anymore.

>> No.18131681

>>18131087
>EN timeslot
It's the Lamy timeslot anon

>> No.18131688

>>18131394
Spaniard market is miniscule compared to the LatAm market.

>> No.18131699

>>18131348
Are you comparing shorts vs 9 minute long clip compilations?
Come on anon.

>> No.18131755

alright, since rushia will probably take a break from streaming, who's the best to take her 18:00 JST slot to prep the funnel into the primetime?

>> No.18131817

>>18131589
>>18131699
Kek. I knew chumbuds would respond.

>> No.18131823

>>18131755
Nene, she's been doing it recently

>> No.18131867

>>18131061
I've seen holofans drop Luca for not being a gamer anymore. They was potential overlap at one point.

>> No.18131897

>>18131688
Is larger than the GER market for sure

>> No.18131919

>>18131087
holiday anon

>> No.18131926

>>18131755
Nenechi. She's avoiding primetime since her antis lurk at those hours.

>> No.18131934

>>18131817
I'm about as far from a chumbud and they come. I just know how worthless shorts are outside of initially attracting attention.

>> No.18132065
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>900k subs
>3 view
she is holostar tier now?
even moona still able to pull 4 digit stream with AOE II

>> No.18132071

>Ame
>More likes than peak CCV
>25 minutes in

>> No.18132126

>>18131867
everyone I know (males) that wanted to watch nijiEN homos dropped them for the same reason, they wanted competitive tryhards, not that it's bad though, they are doing extremely well on the asian fujo market

>> No.18132209

>>18132071
that's kinda understandable when there's 5 people streaming, you end up with a lot of hoppers

>>18132065
Roberu is pulling over 1k consistently, but yeah, she's on the average homo now

>> No.18132255

>>18127638
An actual retard and probably a chink. Aloe left on her own, any real fan knows this.

>> No.18132288

>>18132065
Look at those likes anon. It's CCVid, stop periodically forgetting about fucking CCVid.

>> No.18132340

>>18132288
ID viewers heavily flagged for some reason or another, who knows when it comes to Youtube's 'magic CCV' number.

>> No.18132341

>>18130630
>today, they would have to compete against the giga buffed luxiem if they want to venture in those timeslots
Why the fuck would they want to venture on those timeslots? They are HoloEN, not HoloAsia. Did you not see Luxiem being mocked for dumping their Western audience?

>> No.18132384

>>18132126
Everyone wants an anime aceu or s1mple. Nobody expected homos

>> No.18132499

>>18132065
Okami is one of those games that people say that they love but never actually turn out to watch it.

>> No.18132541

>>18126956
yeah, did they really not consider the opsec?

>> No.18132542

>>18130376
she mentioned she would stream this in members, but it might as well be a guerilla.

>> No.18132685

>>18129636
> how is it possible that 5 people decide to stream in the same 2 hours
It's called a group project.

>> No.18132689

>>18126956
DYRBI? Like you said, they're all very experienced. I bet they just need some justification to get married.

>> No.18132781

How is EN faring with all the overlap right now?

>> No.18132814

>>18132685
It looks really bad especially since they all have CCVid. They look like they are collectively getting mogged by Noel.

>> No.18132834
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Since holostagra started he is kinda incline??

>> No.18132922

>>18132834
He's already getting 4k since January. It just doesn't show up cause of CCVID.

>> No.18132927

>>18131645
NijiEN or smaller vtuber groups all visit this thread for advices that they could use and also, pretty sure they have a handbook or case study on what made HoloJP good.

>> No.18132989

>>18131755
Koyori

>> No.18133005

>>18126956
this is how literally every idol gets out of this hole
>"normal" life
>do something extremely retarded expecting people to get mad at you and drop you
>hide until people start to leave, radio silent
>some months later, announce marriage with a popular dude
this happens to singers, streamers, VA's, actors and basically everyone with a public life
only a few retire properly

>> No.18133041

>>18129636
This has been IRyS and Kronii's timeslots since forever. Mumei is limited by her real life schedule so it can't be helped today. It's just Ame who suddenly drop her stream out of nowhere

>> No.18133070

>>18132288
thats normal ID numbers

>> No.18133072

>>18132989
>panders a bit to gachikoi
>leaves unicorn bait
>knows how to always stream
Yup, there is an opportunity here.

>> No.18133105

>>18131496
Wasn't it pretty much confirmed that they were at least "friends" during that 2018 yab? Anyway I've never dated a jap e-celeb but wouldn't he outright use her real name if they're together? I thought "chan" indicates some level of distance and I'm baffled why would they communicate through discord in the first place rather than LINE or something and it's on both of them for being fucking dumb we know they were using it since more than half a year so I can even buy that they were both on it or the guy is fucking dumb.

>> No.18133125

>>18133005
Norio gettting married really affected Rushia that much huh

>> No.18133237

>>18133005
This rrat is getting more believable by the minute. I hate it, I don't know if I'm thinking or letting someone's voices think for me. I really hope this doesn't wound Hololive since a few of them might have been god tier at opsec and now have a gameplan. The great graduation has begun.

>> No.18133254

What are the chances of Niji's special "internet force" acts more like the 50 cent army and agitate fans to hate on its competitor?

>> No.18133268

Funny that just 4-5 months ago, you Holofags in this thread were saying that NijiEN need to learn from HoloEN to spread their starting hours and now it's the other way around.
How times have changed, eh? That's why NijiEN is going to dominate the EN scene this year

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>>18132834
hard to tell, but it looks like it

>> No.18133335

>>18133268
I mean, they really took those advices in this thread anon since they literally visit this place

>> No.18133406

>>18132814
Kronii already got a higher peak, represented EN on the big league list.
The other EN can pitch in if they want to, else it's fine.

>> No.18133480

>>18133268
>>18133335
NijiEN is still on an overlapping hell. What the fuck are you talking about?

>> No.18133573

>>18133105
He met her as [REDACTED] so maybe he sticks with her first stage name. Yeah, maybe it's a pet name.

>> No.18133579

>>18133268
What are you even talking about? This thread is whining about overlap as we speak.

>> No.18133660

>>18133480
they have coverage. Sankisei overlap often but they go for coverage. NijiEN has been good about that recently.

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This almost looks like NijiEN, I'm going to be sick

>> No.18133762

>>18133105
yes, it's pretty much confirmed they're together since ages ago
and Rushia leaked the discord like what 3 times already having that guy's name on it
may be some newfags didn't know?
the main problem this time is the wording of the message

>> No.18133785

>>18133579
This thread is complaining about HoloEN overlap. There are only 4 out of 15 NijiEN streams at the moment, 2 being in the same collab.

>> No.18133828

>>18131755
That's hers and Aqua's time slot. But given that Pekora isn't doing stellar right now, might as well give it to Pekora and have Aqua move to prime time.

>> No.18133864

>>18133742
>17k on prime time
it's getting worse

>> No.18133899

Sankisei era really is over huh? But I really hope they stay together until the end

>> No.18133898

>>18133742
HoloEN is reclining..
https://youtu.be/KJiqD0bml_4 EN gold

>> No.18133950

>>18133864
>prime time
Wut?

>> No.18133952

I got occupied with something so I didn’t get to hear what Fauna was saying earlier but she was talking about how she’ll get to streaming more soon and that she has “hard deadlines” she needs to meet in the coming days. Does she have school or something too and just hides it unlike Mumei?

>> No.18133995

>>18133864
It isn't primetime, that would've been 3-4 hours ago.

>> No.18134042

>>18133864
It's 3-4 hours past prime time, though. Gura's usual timeslot is EN prime time. This is more like late night

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>>18133950
>>18133995
>>18134042
I mean, the whole day is not looking any better

>> No.18134153

>>18133005
Yui is the only one that got out like the real stacy she is
>announce retirement at the peak of her career to get married and built a family
>admit that her creativity runs out and she dont want to milk it
>become a legend
>have a happy familly and still respected anywhere while do small concert or appereances now and then

>> No.18134172

>>18133952
Almost entire HoloEN have been mentioning having undisclosed works recently, anon. No idea what those are about or if they are even part of the same project, though

>> No.18134245

>>18134153
Kana Hanazawa left in good terms too, she had to wait extra time though

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>losing to a watchalong stream

>> No.18134275

>>18134086
Are you fucking retarded? Why are you not using the hourly top streams to see which vtubers are actually dominating?

>> No.18134300

>>18133952
Probably Hololive related since she said there's a hard deadline for Feb 14 (but not Vday related) and I think Fauna has mentioned that she doesn't work full-time anymore.

>> No.18134345

Man... i just browse through mafu's side of fandom and yikes, shits are worse than rushia's. I just hope these bitches wouldnt go full schizo and pull a kyoani on cover HQ

>> No.18134440

>>18134086
>>18133864
Literally yesterday: >>18051608
You niggers have the memory of a goldfish.

>> No.18134447

>>18133952
HoloEN has a lot of projects. Myth is a veteran at shilling and idol reps, but Council is still not used to the work load yet, maybe another three months.

>> No.18134494

>>18134345
You probably meant Anycolor, since that's where that faggot usually hangs out.

>> No.18134506

Just check the number. Man it's weird seeing Pekora got dethroned for real in watch hours

>> No.18134518

SEAfag here
Might not related, but le Rushia yab has reached our cursed land on Facebook

>> No.18134609

>>18134275
NTA, but
>Why are you not using the hourly top streams to see which vtubers are actually dominating?
Mainly HoloJP, including EN hours? (HoloEN only "won" 9, 10, 11AM and 12PM JST) That doesn't send a good message for HoloEN either. They used to dominate the hours from Ina to IRyS (basically 4:00AM JST to 12:00PM JST), today they are reduced to only 4 hours and their peak CCV barely beat NijiEN's

>> No.18134757

>>18133125
I believe this. Probably pushed her to become more menhera and maybe forcing the issue before her womb fully dries

>> No.18134797

>>18134609
> their peak CCV barely beat NijiEN's
NijiEN has a 10k CCV stream during NA time today?
Nijiniggers and their retarded takes.

>> No.18134881

>>18134757
On one hand I'll be happy for her getting hitched and having a brat or two but on the other hand I won't like what it does for business or tempting more earners and view getters to leave.

>> No.18134972

>>18134440
Yeah, yesterday and today are a perfect contrast of how easily you could boost numbers through staggering streams and streaming closer to NA primetime.

>> No.18134989

>>18134494
Nah man.. femdom always went for the girl instead of their male idols

>> No.18134994

>>18134440
Anon, this is 4chan, gathering place of retards. Your expectations are too high.

>> No.18135006

>>18134881
>>18134757
I am totally fine with it but letting it affect your Hololive work is inexcusable
And I thought Pekora yab was big

>> No.18135008

>>18133005
Not really? A ton of im@s VA's announced their marriages and nobody really cared. All but 2 of the original im@s VA's are married and they're still going strong

>> No.18135134

>>18134797
IRyS's peak was 3.7k. Ame's peak CCV was 3.6k. Fauna's peak is 3.6k at the moment
On the other hand, Luca peaked at 3.5k. Petra's Surgeon Simulator peaked at 3.6k. Pomu's peak was 3.6k as well. Is 100-200 not close enough? Are those three no longer considered HoloEN, then?
(And I'm being nice and only counting streams during EN hours because pretty sure Vox and Mysta will obliterate HoloEN numbers later)

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>>18135134
> If I remove the top Holo and the bottom Niji, they are actually very close!

>> No.18135307

>>18133005
That definitely wasn't the case for AKB's top (all those who were part of Kami-7/8 at any point in time), though?

>> No.18135431

>>18135134
Lmao and here I thought you're talking about numbers in good faith. If you have some agenda to push, just go back to your containment thread, nigger.

>> No.18135521

>>18135134
How convenient of you to just ignore there's 5 overlapping HoloEN streams right now and what they're streaming vs what Vox and Mysta were streaming.
>Petra's Surgeon Simulator peaked at 3.6k
This was a colossal failure of a collab, it was a single POV of Petra/Mysta/Enna.

>> No.18135526

>>18135286
The point is that NijiEN's top were never anywhere close to HoloEN's bottom during EN hours without some massively special event just 3 months ago (or before that). They have already caught up to HoloEN's bottom (or HoloEN's floor dropped), it's only a matter of time before they reach middle or top level. Again, that is if you don't count their Asian hours stream, or they would have already reached middle / top level of current HoloEN
(Heck, I haven't even mentioned how IRyS and Ame have never been part of HoloEN's bottom. They are mid-tier at worst, and IRyS were top tier HoloEN just few months ago)

>> No.18135682

>>18135431
There isn't any agenda, anon, just an observation
>>18135521
And there were 4 overlapping NijiEN streams. Both IRyS and Ame peaked before there were 5 public HoloEN streams (Fauna wasn't on), so it's not like they were massively handicapped.
I wasn't even talking about Vox and Mysta when I compared those peaks.

>> No.18135739

Food for thought, in another timeline, Konami and Fromsoft went neutral with both Holo and Niji but the one who's in bed with Niji will be Square Enix and Capcom.

Will you accept it?

>> No.18135745

>>18134345
yes that is the primary worry. I know we meme about Rushia's fandeads being insane, but its actually the fujos that we have to worry about actually killing her in this case.

>> No.18135780

>>18133480
There is overlap at times, but often times they have hour gaps between each others streams. You also have to realize they have 15 people now. There will be another wave soon, trying to avoid streaming over one another is futile. The men do the best late NA hours (8 PM PST) and SEA hours (3 AM +PST). Then morning NA time (9/10 AM PST) is usually reserved for Nina with sometimes Pomu and Millie streaming early morning (Pomu gets 1k~1.5k viewers around that time since her viewer base is probably mostly working). Then when it hits after noon and evening you get plenty of them. Petra tends to stream at 7 PM or later. Niji EN is hitting A LOT of time zones and spreading their vtubers fairly well.

Then you can look at Production Kawaii which on weekdays Lua, Neena, and Nene have hour gaps between one another during early mornings. Then you have others that play during more NA friendly times. You can look at any other corpo and you can see how clustered Holo EN can be at times.

>> No.18135812

>>18135526
> extrapolating from outliers
Do you even have the records? Where's the graph?
Even Selen, the highest NijiEN female cannot and has not reached Sana's median.

>> No.18135885

>>18135431
The numbers thread IS the containment thread.

>> No.18135958

>>18135739
Capcom is mediocre. Square actually has plenty of classics like Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest.

>> No.18135973

>>18135885
It's supposed to be, but if anything it's just become a convenient place for shitposters to get new material and spread it around the rest of the board

>> No.18135975

>>18135780
NijiEN already overlapped each other since the first wave, and it just keeps getting worse with each wave iteration.

>> No.18136052

>>18135134
>reads replies
ah, the holocope
>there's no market for nijiEN
>it's just for males
>it's just for [timezone]
>they are not good compared to [peak]
>>(You are here)
>they are not good compared to [median]

>> No.18136198

>>18136052
> Make retarded takes
> Get called out
> "Co-cope!!"

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>>18136052
You can stop at the "it's just for males"

>> No.18136242

>>18135682
>4 overlapping NijiEN streams.
Pretending Luxiem's audience overlap with nijiEN girls is anyways close to HoloEN's intra-group overlapping is a disingenuous as fuck.

>Both IRyS and Ame peaked before there were 5 public HoloEN streams
Yeah, they peaked when there were 4 ongoing public streams and when Kronii was at the climax of her game with 9k viewers. Such a HUGE difference man.

>I wasn't even talking about Vox and Mysta when I compared those peaks.
>(And I'm being nice and only counting streams during EN hours because pretty sure Vox and Mysta will obliterate HoloEN numbers later)
>Vox FNAF/ Mysta Minecraft with no overlap vs Ame Frog detective and Mumei Spongebob with 4 overlapping streams
Are you retarded?

>> No.18136330

>>18135975
Most streamers don't stream for one or two hours. They often times stream for longer. Even if you stagger stream times eventually four hours will pass in which all three can be streaming. It's different from having the bulk of your people starting withing a tight time span. As said before, they are now at fifteen people, there will be streams over streams.

>> No.18136403

>>18136224
Is Irys reading SC?

>> No.18136453

>>18136403
No, still in gameplay

>> No.18136467

>>18136403
she's playing a debuff game

>> No.18136474

>>18136403
She is playing some shitty visual novel from what it looks like.

>> No.18136495

>>18136403
No, her game is essentially a low-quality VN and she's getting crushed by the overlap.
It's just Irys picking a bad game knowing her audience.

>> No.18136504

>>18136403
She's playing a goddamn VN meme game (that had it's meme phase pass AGES ago)
It's super debuff, plus everything seems to indicate that her viewerbase is flagged pretty badly, based on waiting room recovery being really, really bad.

>> No.18136512

>>18136242
There isn't a massive overlap, but there is one since there has been a mention that they have seen an uptick of female subscribers since Luxiem. Is it at the same rate that the men are experiencing? Obviously not.

>> No.18136514

>>18136330
> Normalizing bad environment
Oh, here comes the Nijisanji defense force, defending a company, which fired fifty girls in one day, closed multiple international branches.

>> No.18136564

>>18120621
Missing vstats you nigger

https://www.vstats.jp/

Great website.

>> No.18136589

>>18136504
I honestly don't get what it is about IRyS's audience or channel that ends up fucking her so hard for waiting room/live CCV

>> No.18136727

>>18136514
Get your head out of your ass. Not only have I brought up Nijisanji, but Tsunderia and Production Kawaii as well and all three set up their schedules in a similar manner.

>> No.18136748

>>18136589
Lots of hako-oshi in her viewership.

>> No.18136918

>>18135526
> it's only a matter of time before they reach middle or top level.
Uh huh. Sure thing man.
>IRyS and Ame have never been part of HoloEN's bottom. They are mid-tier at worst
>Ame's Outer worlds/DK streams
>Irys's Another Eden/Mario kart streams
See you next week when Ame gets 9k with Apex again
>IRyS were top tier HoloEN just few months ago
He fell for the minecraft spam meme

>> No.18137045

>>18136727
> Don't just shit on Nijisanji, look at these other corpos that I mentioned
Those other corpos are doing their own things, and their fans stay in their containment and respect the thread culture. Unlike the nijiniggers who can't help latching themselves on other brands.

>> No.18137191

>>18135739
Isn't Fromsoft neutral in the sense that they don't give anyone permissions? Nijis don't monetize From games and Holo has a self imposed requirement for explicit permissions.

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>>18137045
I can't believe talking about Nijisanji mind breaks you this much.

>> No.18137344

>>18137258
Very rich coming from a nijinigger who keeps comparing themselves with other brands.

>> No.18137428

>>18131934
Not really that much different than how fan clips function for Hololive, except this brings people directly to her channel. She's obviously happy with the response or she wouldn't already be pushing through material for a second season.

>> No.18137478

>>18137344
They can only get (you) if put them together with hololive. Best to ignore and move on.

>> No.18137686

>>18137344
Either you can't read or you are being purposefully dishonest due to being a Holo zealot.

>> No.18138001

>>18133742
Unfortunatley Mori won't be able to save HoloEN this time.

>> No.18138197

This thread has not been schizo today.

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ぺこ純 pekora x jun is somehow trending

>> No.18138392

>>18138197
Is this some kind of advanced falseflagging trying to gaslight the schizoposting as normal?

>> No.18138566

>>18138286
Retard.

>> No.18138587

>>18138286
Personalized trends. That's a sign that you should take your meds, schizo.

>> No.18138750

>>18138286
Rushia is still trending with gofugofu...

>> No.18138913

>>18121134
and it was all true when Hololive was pandering to chinks at the time.
They built up a medium sized English audience and then brought in the first wave of EN chuubas who they could watch.
And so they had a backup in case the zhangs sperged out (which they did).
What backup does Luxiem have right now? None. And with zhangs as a core audience, not having that backup is extremely risky.

>> No.18139026

Ironmouse is now the 5th most subscribed channel on Twitch at 48k subs.

>> No.18139233

>>18138913
>It was all true
At no point in time was Hololive's main audience from China and SEA. They had a large number of Chinese fans but they were majority JP by a massive amount. With Luxiem however we can tell from their superchats that their audience is at least 75% Chinese.

>> No.18139322

>>18138392
>no one calling for Council's graduation
>no one shitting on Subaru
>no one shitting on Gen 5
>no one doing the JPvsEN dance

>> No.18139413

>>18139322
They've been in other threads and here trying to bait with other things. Nijifags will take a shit in any well they can find.

>> No.18139430

>>18139322
Don't you fucking dare anon ...

>> No.18139515
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Top 3 for the moment.

>> No.18139728

So who crossed 5k for EN so far? Kronii, Fauna, and Mumei?

>> No.18139769

>>18139728
Ina did, before everyone else today.

>> No.18139820

>>18139233
2019/2020 Holo SC breakdown is predominantly JP.
SEA is loud, but they don't commit.
When JP panders to overseas, they still maintain their core audience.
There is a special case, like Aki, who favors global audience over native audience.
Her SC is much more global compared to other JP.

>> No.18139897

>>18139728
Yep along with Ina

Ina, Kronii, Fauna, and Mumei.

>> No.18139915

>>18139413
Lol

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>>18136918
NTA, but if you think IRyS was top tier among EN few months ago just because of "minecraft spam meme", you are the one who fell for the meme. IRyS never spammed significantly more MC streams than other ENs, and her normal streams' numbers were pretty decent too. For example, random sample from 3 months ago (see pic) - there was only one "bad" stream that peaked below 5k CCV (her 4th RE stream), and one MC stream, the rest all did well (including non-buff streams like Pokemon, AC and Chillart kusoge)

>> No.18140024

>>18132927
get your head out of your ass anon, no one would unironically come here for actual advice.

>> No.18140082

>>18138286
Won't be surprised if pekojun turns out to be real

>> No.18140168

>>18140082
Jun's wife already got doxxed. That rrat smells like a deflection.

>> No.18140205

>>18140024
Cope. This is the best place to get constructive criticism

>> No.18140208

>>18140024
Doesn't mean it's a good idea, but they do still read shit here.

>> No.18140242

>>18140024
The lady doth protests too much, methinks.

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>>18140205
holy kek

>> No.18140268
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Does waiting room count tabbed-out viewers?

>> No.18140284

>>18140024
Shut up Reimu you've been exposed long ago

>> No.18140420

>>18140268
Anon, this is just straight up CCVID stage 2 all over again.
Yes theye do count tab outs, but this exact same type of graph was everywhere when we were on full blown CCVID territory.

>> No.18140443

>>18139820
I'm pretty sure in Sea's case it's a combination of the biggest sea country being unable to superchat and, with the exception of Singapore, their currency is fancy banana leaves. Look at how often sgd shows up on the charts

>> No.18140445

>>18140024
Actual movie stars have egosurf'd into 4chan. No reason to think young people who have used the internet their whole lives wouldn't too. Everyone is weak to suggestion. Some ideas are good even if people use various racial slurs and blame their misfortunes on the jewish reptile shapeshifting bankers.

>> No.18140508

>>18140205
Yeah anon the hundred and fifty threads about Rushia's boyfriend sure is constructive

>> No.18140549

>>18140508
that's a lot of threads

>> No.18140566

>>18140445
Coming here to see what the monkeys are doing is not the same thing as coming here for actual advice. If you treat the shit people say here seriously and not as creative works of fiction you should genuinely check yourself into an institution

>> No.18140713

>>18140268
>Waiting room is the peak
Is it happening boys? Has CCVID finally started to hit enough people to snowball again, that soon, all of EN will fail to recover their waiting rooms?

>> No.18140742

>>18140549
Have you seen the state of the catalogue? If anything I'm understating it

>> No.18140763

>>18139940
Yeah, IRyS is fine and people are over reacting. Those are all buff games and she does fine playing those (she just had almost 8k playing that needy streamer game). The one thing that did hurt her viewership a little bit is that she stopped doing her weekly karaoke streams, which while understandable given her throat issues, certainly hurt her a bit. Those were a huge draw.

She is just playing a super debuff meme game that was a meme like almost a decade ago. People and disingenuous nijiniggers are over reacting right now.

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>>18140713
>that soon, all of EN will fail to recover their waiting rooms?
Just happened a few days ago.

>> No.18140781

>>18140508
I mean, there are "some" good advice here and there
But, as I said time and time again, the issue is you have to dig through a mountain of shit to find ONE good one
And it's not like you have time or energy to do that in the first place

>> No.18140843

>>18140742
I mean it's as big of a bomb as one could drop in the scene plus /vt/'s sisterhood perks up whenever there is drama to gawk at.

>> No.18141288

>>18140770
Ergh.
It's clearly inconsistent though, not until everyone is hit this bad like JP was will people finally stop treating CCV like it's something to be trusted, just like early January. Those times were probably the best /#/ has been for months.

>> No.18141293

Are you telling me 2500 people have Shylily stream on for hours at night, no chatting or any interaction? That's a big percentage of her newly gained viewers being so loyal. Impressive, but smells fishy.

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Damn, tonight is Mysta's turn to make a quick buck.

>> No.18141429

>>18141293
Twitch engagement trends lower than YT chubbas on average it seems, buttes there are cases where people will use a stream as a sleep aid. See: ASMR

>> No.18141433

>>18141293
i always hide chat no matter the streamer

>> No.18141463

>>18141293
>twitch ccv
The Zimbabwean dollar

>> No.18141482

>>18141430
Fucking devilish that lad.

>> No.18141542

>>18141430
Milking his fanbase as driest as possible

>> No.18141601

>>18141430
ok man this is just absurd now

>> No.18141602

>>18141430
holy shit, that's vile

>> No.18141635

>>18141430
Actually disgusting

>> No.18141660

>>18141482
>>18141602
My thoughts summed up.
I despise it, but I also recognize a good hustle when I see one.

>> No.18141711

>>18141430
If female NijiEN or HoloEN do this, I can see this board full of shitposts of them

>> No.18141717

>>18141430
This is how antis are created

>> No.18141752

>>18141430
Smart guy

>> No.18141896

https://twitter.com/uni_mafumafu/status/1492037228520181760
https://twitter.com/uni_mafumafu/status/1492037228520181760
https://twitter.com/uni_mafumafu/status/1492037228520181760

>> No.18141951

>>18141430
thought there will be coding involved to process chats and do inputs but I'm guessing he's going to manually input commands once he reads your donations kek
not sure if lazy, greedy or both.

>> No.18141953

>>18141430
Can't even be mad, that's what you call a hustle

>> No.18141968

>>18141896
Fuck off to one of the bait threads faggot. Post numbers or fuck off.

>> No.18141970

>>18141896
>It's fucking nothing
Not going to stop the angry women from sperging out regardless.

>> No.18141972

>>18141896
good thing that's cleared up

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>>18141896
give me numbersssssssssss
but what can i say anon...
believe it or die

>> No.18141981

>>18141430
This is just too much. I respect the hustle though. Gotta milk them fujos before Rikku that retard releases another shitty wave

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>>18141896
> Mafu running damage control
Looks like Rushia won't be talking about this.

>> No.18142011

>>18141970
I wonder if he will start wearing newspapers around his waist and a tough turtle neck when he goes out.

>> No.18142025

>>18141951
No, streamlabs and MC mods exist that allow streamlabs donation commands to be transformed into inputs.
There is no such mod for YT superchats to my knowledge, but some do exist for streamlabs since I've seen 'commands' and other things for other games via Streamlabs donations on Twitch.

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>>18141987
>dating
Deepl translation is yab

>> No.18142070

>>18141987
but she must, sometimes silence is a poison

>> No.18142129

>>18141987
Anon, even Americans understand anything you say can be used against you

>> No.18142146

>>18141987
>Fujos are eating it up
Thank god. Wouldn't want Rushia to get stabbed by one of her fujos.

>> No.18142255

>>18141968
This can affect numbers, anon
Specifically, the chance of either of them getting fucking stabbed by JP schizo

Jokes aside, now that the other party have spoken, Rushia has to be more careful with her words going to the next stream, because there's no way she can swipe it under the rug

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