/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>18024275
So what company does Shadow work for?
Her mama's commission form clearly states that she only takes commissions from companies and she's currently running an audition for a model she drew that mentions putting you into contact with some sponsor companies.

>>18025477
She's an independent, it could be that Rucaco had different terms then (Shadow said she first contacted her over a year ago recently) or it could be that Shadow was big enough for her to be willing to work with her despite her being independent. The rest of her children vary between 1 views and 2 views with the exception of one small corpo who seems to have less than 50% of Shadow's viewers on a good day. Shadow has undoubtedly brought her the most publicity out of any child, especially considering how much she supports her and talks about her. I think she mentions Rucaco at least once every stream. They seem to have a very good relationship considering neither of them seem to speak the others language.

This girl you guys style?
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgyr3IpHDRjZ_XEFUHb-q-w

>>18026350
Never seen her before, is she Japanese? Very cute model.

>>18026350
>post is slightly esl
>chuuba is slightly esl
We have grifters now... /ccu/ incline...

>>18025477
Shadow is the CEO of Hot British Cunny Inc

>>18026752
I've grinded enough nip to recognize that her dual-language tweets are pretty obviously japanese-first english-second, but I can't really say for certain she isn't something like chinese-diaspora-living-in-japan-who-are-ashamed-of-being-chinese-and-hide-it(more of these than you'd think, so whenever I see above-average english ability it's the first thing that comes to my mind)

>>18026914
Shit you're right. I'm pretty sure we had Shimo here last thread too, she's known for selfposting in /wvt/. Personally I don't mind but I do think it's funny we half selfposters now.

>>18027118
Damn snotty brats, sneaking into a place for grown men! If you wanna be an adult so bad I'll show you what its like!!

Why'd the alt go private?

>>18027885
Shadow's? She's tweeting about her mother right this moment, maybe she thinks it's too personal.

>>18027913
oh nothing bad I hope

>>18028013
Just that her mother was upset and hugged her because she was worried Shadow thought her mother didn't love her. Understandable they might have these issues in a household where Shadow is the one paying the bills. It sounds like they love each other a lot though, I imagine Shadowmama has to be some level menhera too to give birth to Shadow.

>>18027118
Someone asked if anyone was streaming, I posted Shimo's tweet and immediately get called Shimo... Am I missing something?

Shadow live!

Which mod is it btw?

>>18030227
pyro, he hardly talks that I'm aware of

>shadow tilts her head when she's listening
this dork

I want to do bad things to Shondo

Watching the Direct with Lil Sis!

Your serial killer little sister is playing BLOOD!
https://www.twitch.tv/alicesawyer

The girls are showing each other the goods and chat gets nothing...

UUUOOOOOOOHHHHH!!!! SHONDO BELLY!!!!

>>18034273
she wants you to use this as a punching bag anon will you fulfill her desires?

>>18034390
With a belly as tender looking as that, how could you resist.

>>18034273
mother of god...

Shondo's voice is just too cute, bros.
What's happened to me?

go shondo go!

>>18039748
one of us, one of us

poor shondy :(

>>18041912
what happened I left for a bit

>>18042157
Bottled up overtime and she burst.

>>18042157
She talked for a bit about not feeling very well, then started crying and ended stream. It sounded like she was upset at herself for not making today a fun, long stream while she had the time, among other things.

>>18042157
got sad about some stuffs, vented a bit. can only hope for the best i guess

Wonder how rratfags will spin this one, how could anyone say she's faking everything after she had a borderline breakdown telling chat how she has nothing else in her life.
She would have to be a true psychopath with very honed acting skills, which she is definitely too much of a sperg to have.

>>18042252
>>18042271
>>18042435
Just watched in the vod
Bros I want to hold her...

This thread should be a Lily Shondo alliance, the rest of them are literal whos

>>18042663
Whos said she's faking everything? You can lie about a thing or two without having to lie about everything too. Of course she actually has shit going on and isn't doing great though. She's mentally ill and has had lots of issues going on

Shadow is an angel, I really hope she's doing okay. Silence on twitter and discord right now.
I really hope she hasn't been here recently. I know she's mourning still and she's been sick but I do wonder what could've upset her.
I wonder if the Twitch views being down is upsetting her. She mentioned lots of fluctuations in the streamers she watches about a week ago and mentioned it being buggy today. Pretty much every indie I watch is down 100-200 viewers right now.

>>18042984
Every recent shondo related thread besides this one has had some shitposters say stuff like that, but I suspect it's just rrat vultures who saw some people get upset about the one thing and felt like farming (You)s without even having seen one of her streams.

>>18043105
Only thing i've seen being talked about is the boyfriend thing. I havent seen much else besides that so that's why im wondering where the faking everything is coming from

I wonder if she'll be able to do ASMR this time either. I really would like for her to take a day off if she needs it but it seems she feels trapped as if not being on stream would be worse for her overall.

>>18043012
>I wonder if the Twitch views being down is upsetting her
she doesn't look at the numbers and times out or bans anyone that mentions them

>>18043281
I've seen a few posts saying that the stuff about her having a fucked up past and her being menhera is made up and doesn't line up with her history just today and yesterday

>>18043012
>>18043349
Have her views even been down?
She's been consistently between 250-350, that seems like her normal range.

>>18043542
I've never seen her drop below 300 since before debut. She's been consistently below 300 the last few days. Look at the art stream from a few days ago even, she was near 400 for most of the stream but is now sitting around 250-300. She's down for sure, she usually peaks above 400 for Dark Souls and I didn't see her break 300 today.

>>18043629
I wonder why that is, maybe it's just because Lost Ark just came out and people are grinding that or watching streamers play it.

>>18043749
Aside from Shadow I mostly watch K*** and Vivi. K*** usually averages around 400-500 and she was sitting in the low 300s and even dropping below like Shadow. Vivi did a hand stream yesterday, her last hand stream was consistently 450+ without raids and she was sitting at 240-260. Whatever it is, something's up. Unsure if it's Twitchwide since I don't watch that many streamers but something is wrong for sure.

>>18043448
I haven't seen any posts like that, only of people saying the opposite unprompted. I assumed it was a veiled jab with the implication being unlike those other girls. I guess the posts could have been deleted, though.

>>18043851
Don't quote me on this but I heard something about twitch started actually filtering out "fake" views.

>>18043851
If it affects multiple girls like this then I think it lends credence to my idea, it's probably just because a new game that was very hyped up on twitch came out.
On launch day the category was at 1 million viewers and even right now it's at 360k, meaning that a bunch of people who might casually tune into comfy vtuber streams are probably busy playing or watching that rn.
If true then I expect similar dips when Elden Ring comes out.

>>18043963
"fake" viewers? Interesting. I wonder what constitutes a fake viewer.

>>18043851
>>18043963
This was mentioned in the prior thread I think but I don't have any confirmation either. Still if I'm to believe her that she doesn't look at the numbers I don't feel there's been any fewer active chatters. I think if anything got to her it must've been her mother or just genuinely the built up stress of working on the next asmr and trying to plan this big valentines event.

>>18044106
I'd assume bots and viewer farms and the like.

CCV has been fluctuating a lot more than usual too, I've seen viewercount go from 250 to 360 to 280 on Shadow's stream alone in the span of less than 5 minutes. No way that many people are coming and going. Something's up for sure.
Maybe Twitch isn't counting tabbed out users anymore?

>>18044317
genuinely not trying to stir any tribal bs but ive heard other people mention that the vshojo subathons are bleeding a lot of viewers from their usual oshis

I think you guys are reading too much into it. Didn't she mention having a depression diagnosis among the other things?

>>18044464
depression is the least of her various diagnoses

vod gone...

Shame me muted all of the crying, that's peak idol content.

Shadow's rigging is so good you can see her struggle to hold back tears.

>>18044983
The final few min were pretty sad. You could see her trying not to cry, then muting to cry, switching to the brb screen, and then eventually the ending screen as she typed in chat that she just couldn't do it. Hopefully shes calmed down a bit now.

>>18045191
silvi was there I hope her or the mods are comforting her

>>18044983
Watching her blink rapidly like that, her eyes dart around, then her rigging stops as she leans far to the side for a minute. Then she's back and even the model's mouth is downturned even though I haven't seen it do that before without expressions on and then she's blinking rapidly again and switching the screen. It was really heartbreaking.

>>18045237
Silvi is streaming in 4 min, its ASMR so hopefully Shadow will relax a bit to that if nothing else.

>>18024275
Wait wait wait hold on a sec. I remember watching Fallen Shadow when she was a underage, Kiluafag who did dark asmr and low key incestuous roleplays. When did she become a Lolituber?

Shadow tweeting on her alt, she seems to be okay at least.

>>18046115
she's told the discord she's okay too
I hope she means it

>>18046115
Man I wish I wasn't banned on Twitter, I wanna follow her D:

>>18046219
account's privated right now regardless and I don't want to be the guy that's looking for the juicy sadposts in her moment of weakness

>>18046178
I don't think she's ever truly "okay" unfortunately. She said she struggles to get out of bed when she's not streaming and this is all that she has. She said she often feels down when she starts streaming and feels better once she gets going, same happened with the now nuked ASMR stream from a while ago where it just didn't get better I suppose. The fact she tries so hard regardless is endearing.
>>18046219
QRD? Interesting story or just the standard?

>>18046312
Oh yeah nothing interesting, i was just funposting a bit and twitter didn't like it.
Kinda sucks tho since it's not as easy to get a second phone number in my country as it is in america, so I can't easily get a new account.

>>18046429
You can pay a few bucks to get a number to verify.

Cute owl Silvi is currently streaming ASMR. I'm glad she and Shadow are friends, they seem very close and I'm glad Shadow has someone like that. I recommend anons here check out her stuff, she's very sweet and works incredibly hard as well as being probably the biggest Shadow supporter in existence.

>>18046667
>forgets the link
Yeah I'm a dumbass
https://www.twitch.tv/silvimikazuki

>>18046312
>The fact she tries so hard regardless is endearing
Yeah... and I hope to express to her that that's appreciated while also not giving her the go-ahead to work herself near to death.

>>18046785
Paying Shadow to take a day off! Holding Shadow down and forcing her to do nothing! Tying Shadow up and feeding her real meals instead of dessert!

>>18046667
I also remember before Shadow's Live2D debut Silvi did a dedicated waiting room like stream where she hyped Shadow up and just talked about how much she loved her for a few hours, then raided her immediately after the debut begun. It was incredibly sweet and cute.

>>18046867
God what I'd give to spend a day pampering shadow so she can take time off

Why did she do it?

>>18026350
holy shit, 1 year with a model that good and so little viewers? i wonder what keeps her going
youtube is a bad platform for people like her

Tomorrow Silvi is becoming a pink haired catgirl... The disease.. It's spreading..

>>18048001
If I were to guess because they said stupid shit in chat.

Shondo news: The first thing Shadow would do with Silvi is take off her clothes.

>>18048001
>check his tweets
>constantly using real name and begging for attention for also being schizo

>>18048001

>>18049368
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>18049368
Based

>>18048001
Was he autism?

>>18050688
Check the replies on his Twitter and you will know

>>18050688
anon please look up 3 posts

>>18051937
She needs rape correction

tweeting a whole thread I can't even see I hope that's a good thing

>Everytime I miss a shadow stream she has some sort of mental breakdown
It's my fault...

>>18054017
>you weren't by your wife's side when she needed you
can you live with yourself, anon?

>>18054017
You could've saved her anon.. Don't miss it next time..

>>18053993
Someone update us on her status please, anything going on there?

>>18054150
She's ogey

Silvi thinks that Shadow's entire community is obsessed with her to an almost unhealthy degree. Shadow doesn't believe it.

>>18056780
I mean, some people certainly are but I think most people are chill enough and just play along with what shadow encourages, because it releases happy brain chemicals to say "I love you", even if it's just to an anime girl you know you'll never meet.
Judging based on Darryl Hoff getting banned, it also seems to me like Shadow is smart enough to prune actual crazies from her community.

>>18056780
I enjoy it healthily but I will still express a lot of love for shadow because she deserves it. I don't think it's wrong to also care about her as a person too but I understand it's not as meaningful coming from a viewer.

Shadow stop breaching containment I will correct you

>>18057877
After showing her lewd tummy today too..UTMOST CORRECTION IS NEEDED!

Really hoping eventually someone makes a card for Shadow. I must correct her in 3D.

Hopefully the thread can survive the night.. these keep dying lately once NA goes to sleep. Board's become too damn fast.

Dude Shadow's model is so cute but have you ever really focused on her eyes? They look freaky.

>>18063086
Her eye tracking is some of the best I’ve seen and they’re rigged to create many different shapes. Very cute

Anyone got archive for shadow's yesterday stream?

>>18061467
Hopefully...

Lily cute!

>>18061467
I think we're getting somewhere...
Wake up anons...

I FUCKING LOVE SHONDO BROS

I LOVE FUCKING SHONDO BROS

>>18069391
Same, I wish I could be part of her inner simp circle and feel like I was there for her during her darker moments.

>>18069432
Just let others simp for her and enjoy the fruits as a fan, she won't particularly care for anyone specifically anyway.

I want to commission hardcore fetish shondo art but I don't want her to have to deal with it.

>>18070605
She's fine with it.

>>18070652
She SAYS she's fine but still.

>>18070605
I'll just draw what I want.

>>18071005
Post it anon.

>>18071098
When I'm done.

>>18024275
I would violently rape shondo until she's pregnant and then treat her lovingly afterwards

side account unprivated but with specific stuff deleted oh well

>>18073226
Redpill me on the deleted posts.

>>18073621
I couldn't see them either I can just see that posts were deleted

>>18073621
I only follow her casually, but IIRC one thread was about her mother coming to her crying about how she thought she didn't love her enough and another was about a (now deleted) vod where she seemed to have some sort of issues and didn't get to stream the way she wanted.

>>18073902
Makes me sad to hear she was so upset about yesterday's stream, I thought she did well.

>>18074710
honestly it looked like chat bullying was getting to her a bit once she started dying in souls and usually she takes it pretty well

>>18078861
Yeah I agree with that, she was being backseated pretty hard whilst she struggled with directions. It was probably lots of things all hitting at once.

mesugaki?

>>18081199
The One We Do Not Name for sure, and lately Shadow has been showing some tendencies that definitely require correction.

>>18078861
>>18080154
Damn I wish I had been there, she reads my messages quite frequently and I could've given better advice about that game than 99% of people.
Might have avoided a little bit of stress for her.

>>18082891
Are you referring to The Forbidden One or The Forbidden One? There's a pretty big difference here but both of them are indeed spoiled brats

>>18082996
You could’ve saved her…

>>18083364
I missed my one chance...

I think yesterday must have been just an all around bad day for Shadow. She was crying an hour before her stream and then I think all of the stress just got to her. I really hope she can pull off the ASMR today, she’s said those are her most difficult streams so I wouldn’t be surprised if we had a similar situation to last time. I don’t know what’s going on with her lately but I hope she’ll be okay.

Please tell me shadow is the real deal..

>>18084522
Not sure exactly what you mean anon, but she’s a diagnosed schizo and had a breakdown last night and said that this is all she has to live for.

>>18084522
No I'm pretty sure she's legal now. So are most of the cunnytubers like mal and gomi.

>>18086231
She’s legal but barely. It’s amazing she’s been making content for so long considering her age but I guess since she’s a NEET and has been for way too long it makes sense.

>>18087240
This is the same artist that’s drawing Shadow’s body pillow uoh…

>>18087466
That's great art, has the design been revealed yet?

>>18088196
I remember her saying the artist had a long waitlist so no. Mayumani is pretty well known, I'm surprised they will work with individuals. I know Rucaco doesn't anymore.

>>18088949
It's pretty awesome she has good correspondence with artists and knows a lot of the good ones. Between supporting her family and paying for great art I can't think of much more I could ask for as far as where my money from supporting her goes.

>>18090643
I still think it's cute that she said if you want to buy her a gift then to buy her any type of art. She truly does love art, I suppose that's why she started drawing herself. I think she said she's only been drawing 3 or 4 years? Really quick learner.

I just recently got into Lilyhops. What's wrong with her?

>>18091017
Nothing she is your cute sister!

>>18091091
If she's my sister that means she came from my parents. She has a lot more wrong with her than you think...

>>18091017
She melted my cynical heart and turned me into a turbosimp, other than that I can't think of any negatives.

>>18091208
She's your step-sister, though she might drink your blood to get closer to being a blood relative

>>18091091
My cute sisterwife

The real question here should be: Who has the stinkiest cunny?

>>18092171
K***

>>18092550
for me

>>18091330
Hi pantsu

>>18095278
I wish I was pantsu, I can't draw for shit and currently too broke to whale.

Nade gets her own threads, but from the looks of things she won't be doing anything until Valentines and I personally can't wait that long without at least saying that she's cute somewhere. Forgive me.

>>18095522
Is it true shes working on a new model?

>>18095522
looks like nyanner

>>18026350
UUUUOOOOOHHHHHH!!!!

>>18048197
A lot of JP indies have really good models and a lot of dedication but get really bad viewership. I think that Youtube just refuses to recommend them to English speakers even if the girls speak both Japanese and English in stream.

Uehasu is another example of a great girl that has been going on for a long time (in her case, 3 fucking years) but just can't seem to grow more than around 200 regulars. She tries really hard to speak English too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq-Ur2FyPgU
Life is so unfair bros, can't believe the EN whores are drowning in simp money, the EOP is too powerful...

>>18051937
>moved to twitch
DROPPED.

>>18095450
The good thing is you can always learn to draw anon. I used to be like you but Shadow encouraged me to do my reps when she talked about that mindset on stream. Her art 4 years ago vs her art now is a world apart. It's always worth starting.

>>18026350
You're pretty cute. I like your accent.

>>18097046
I know being good at art is just the result of a lot of practice, it's just not really viable or a priority for me right now. I do show my love for my oshi in other ways, and she's super kind and considerate so she let's me know she appreciates it, despite it not being as visible and tangible as fanart is.
Maybe one day I'll pick up art when I don't have to worry about other things first, though.

>>18097046
>Shadow encouraged me to do my reps when she talked about that mindset on stream
nta but I'd be interested to hear what she said. I've been newly inspired by shondo after picking up and dropping art many times over but I'm unsure if that's sustainable. For now I just kind of want to give something back to her.

why is shadow doing GFE when her fucking head mod in discord is her boyfriend? fucking slut

>
Why are you baiting here when you have a much bigger and easier drama to farm (You)s with?

>>18098157
shadow has a boyfriend??

>>18098568
No. Don't take the bait idiot.

>>18098589
This board is loaded with tourists atm so expect retards to bite.

>>18098157
Respect the character

>>18091017
Doesnt stream enough.

>>18096355
Take it back. Nade is a good girl.

Don't die thread!
Also Nade is cute and can hang out here if she'll keep us alive for a while. Having a thread is irrelevant if it's not currently up, as shown by /shondo/ and /lily/ still occasionally popping up between /ccu/ threads

>>18101254
post the link

I wonder what streams we'll have today! I know Shadow's streaming ASMR in a few hours, but I wonder what the chances of a Lily stream are..

>>18101970
She said yesterday she wanted to stream today, so maybe!

>>18101970
Lily said she would today but you never know when somethings gonna come up. In the meantime Lily put up a new video that is incredibly cute
https://youtu.be/l_vOzR0atrg

>>18103750
...

bros, shondo won't betray us like rushia right?

>>18105504
What did rushia do?

>>18105504
I heard she used to have a boyfriend mod and they broke up, but either way, just don't go to vtubers thinking they are your virtual girlfriends, for fuck's sake man.

>>18105597
The final yab of any GFE chuuba.

>>18105667
Which is?

>>18105735
Leaking the fact you have a boyfriend and have had one for over 4 years

>>18105885
I should have guessed, people in this board have a weird obsession with making sure their oshis are lonely.
Listen to >>18105635, your oshi isn't your girlfriend, she's not cheating on you.

>>18105885
Damn I haven't paid any attention to that. How the hell did she manage to leak it? She must be in shambles right now.

>>18106180
I would agree with this, except for the fact she heavily played into the GFE, her fucking merch has a goddamn engagement ring. Its fucking gross to play into it so hard while dating someone.

>>18106180
>your oshi isn't your girlfriend
You don't know Rushia very well, do you? Her entire shitick is being your yandere gf. One of her expensive merch sets even included a engagement ring. She fully went in into GFE and then this happened.

>>18105504
She was extremely militant about not doing GFE when she did have a boyfriend and only started doing it after they broke up. She has a very strong moral compass. I think you only need to worry if she starts telling you not to call her your girlfriend anymore. (I actually wouldn't be surprised if the reason she leaned into it so hard is because she's lonely, her relationship with her chat is clearly more parasocial on her behalf than ours, last night absolutely shows that. She seemed almost suicidal)
I wonder how Shadow feels about the Rushia situation given how she reacted to NSO and how much she likes Rushia.

>>18106339
>>18106445
You do know what the E in GFE stands for, right? Next you'll tell me you expect Lily to take a DNA test to prove she's actually your sister.

>>18098787
She literally says, verbatim, that she doesn't have a character on stream and that she's just herself.

>>18105222
Someone help this man! He has died of cuteness

Shadow made a promo video for her valentines stream!
This really is going to be intense..
https://youtu.be/BPilhrZSQQU

>>18106639
Fuck off, you don't believe females can do anything wrong. You're worse than any simp.

>>18106941
Brainlet

>>18106639
>Bro its fake GFE that means its not immoral to do
Fuck off, she deserves every bit of the hate going on, its the same level as bad as people faking illnesses or disabilities for pity views and donations.

>>18107008
>woman says she explicitly is single on stream
>turns out to be lying
>'NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IT'S JUST AN EXPERIENCE BROOOOOOOOO IT'S OKAY TO LIE MY QUEEN CAN DO NO WRONG!!!!'

>>18106639
Both sides knew the deal you retard. But you know that, that's why you've concocted a deliberately disingenuous argument.

>>18106941
Don't be silly anon, of course women can do wrong things, it's just that not sacrificing their personal lives to indulge schizos that can't tell the difference between reality and fiction isn't one of them.

>>18107036
I'm sorry that you actually believed rushia wasn't faking it and thought she was actually going to marry you.

>>18107127
And people didn't know that rushia wasn't actually going to marry them?

>>18107501
>I'm sorry that you actually believed rushia wasn't faking it and thought she was actually going to marry you.
I've never watched her once, doesn't meant I cant find her actions repulsive. Anyone who preys on mentally weak people are human garbage

How did you fuckers manage to derail this into GFE rrat talk again purely by someone bringing up an unrelated hololive girl. Please go discuss your GFE ethics in any of the rushia threads.

>>18107622
So you're repulsed by GFE streamers, that's a fair take. Whether they have a partner doesn't matter though, unless you're mentally ill to the point where you actually believed it.

>>18106879
it surely can't be some jerma level shit but knowing shondo is a perfectionist and has been losing sleep over this, I'm really interested to see what this is gonna look like

>>18107884
aren't there 15 other threads in this board for you to defend her? why must you keep this discussion here?

>>18024275
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iESrzg6FFpY
Does Nyanoko fit into ccu?

>>18107708
Apologizes anon, I'll refrain from anymore posting on that.
Any guesses how long the ASMR Shondo stream will be? I've only been able to catch one before

>>18108003
is that a VRChat asset

>>18107976
I don't care about rushia, I'm talking about GFE. You can't tell me it's not relevant to the thread when the last 3 have been dominated by >wtf shondo had a bf? REEEEEEEEE

>>18108162
can you agree that it's at least desingenuous to do GFE when your entire shtick is that the viewers should only be focused on you?
if you have a boyfriend irl you should at least be honest about it, because part of the fantasy of the viewers is the fact that the chuuba probably doesn't have a bf
she's not a whore or anything but if she cared that much she shouldn't have let it slip

>>18107976
He's baiting, just ignore him

>>18108023
It really varies on her mood. Sometimes an hour or two if she’s not into it but quite often if she’s in the mood she can go 3-4 hours or even longer.

>>18108338
I don't think it's disingenuous to play a character for entertainment. They also play the yuri character and flirt with other girls when they don't really mean it.
I absolutely don't think they should be honest about it, it's like breaking character, it ruins the fantasy. You go to the GFE to experience a fantasy the same way you'd self insert into a romance anime. Unless you're a schizo and actually believe it, but then that's on you.
Did she let it slip on purpose to ruin the experience? If so that's shitty because it diminishes the experience people are there to have, but if it was an accident that's just a bummer but oh well moment.

>>18108941
Emotionally manipulating people that mentally ill is morally bankrupt.

>>18108941
Emotionally manipulating people that are mentally ill (gachikoi) is morally bankrupt.

>>18108941
It's not fucking theater, it's a parasocial relationship, you can't play a character completely different from what you are or at least you shouldn't
It's not about "actually believing it" it's just a fantasy you can't mantain if you actually have a bf

>>18107501
>not sacrificing their personal lives to indulge schizos
They can do that by not lying in the first place. All you're doing is victim blaming.

>>18108338
But she doesn't have... Shed just "once had". There are no girls who have never ever had.

>>18109400
>>18109473
I can tell you're the same guy from the other thread get a life or at least just go watch streamers that fit your standards. This is the only (You) I intend to give.

>>18109284
>>18109400
I agree with that. Having a partner or not has nothing to do with that, though.
The question is, how do you know if a streamer is trying to emotionally manipulate mentally ill viewers or just trying to give viewers that aren't mentally ill a nice experience?

>>18109453
It is theater though, sane people realize the anime girl isn't really dating them and just play make believe the same way they do when they go to the theater.

>>18109663
I'm the 2nd person but not the 1st.

>>18109609
If even schizo neets like Shadow have had discord boyfriends at some point I don’t think there’s a single girl alive who hasn’t at least e-dated. I agree girls shouldn’t lie about current relationships but just because they had anything whatsoever in the past doesn’t make them a whore.

>>18109680
What theater? What character? They break the 4th wall 24/7, and in Shondo's case she literally says she's not playing a character.

>>18109680
4th wall breaks are the worst thing to ever happen to theater. If you can't keep up the illusion you shouldn't do it

>>18109806
So shondo is actually in a relationship with hundreds of people at the same time, or is it make believe, aka theater?

>>18109978
I wouldn’t be surprised if she believes it herself. Don’t forget she’s schizo.

>>18109789
Exactly... It's really unreasonable to get mad about the past before even started doing the GFE streaming... Because all girls have a past of some kind, even e-dating. But she even told you that she only ever kiss with a girl. So I don't think they even did anything...

>>18109978
>So shondo is actually in a relationship with hundreds of people at the same time
Yes, and it's a unique relationship between an individual and a group that contains explicit promises of exclusivity. We just don't have a unique word for it.

Shondo believed in Rushia. Probably was her role model. After this event, she'll either get blackpilled or double down in parasocialness, as in "fuck it, I'll do it myself"

>>18110172
I hope she doesn't, that's not healthy. Even if she does you shouldn't believe it, it's not healthy for the viewer either.

>>18110227
>We just don't have a unique word for it.
Schizophrenic delusion is the words you're looking for.

>>18109680
>I agree with that. Having a partner or not has nothing to do with that, though.
>The question is, how do you know if a streamer is trying to emotionally manipulate mentally ill viewers or just trying to give viewers that aren't mentally ill a nice experience?
Well vTubers are where fiction and reality intersect. Personally, unless the tuber is entirely capable of separating her real self from the virtual, which very few can do, having a partner does become questionable at the least when they go down the route of GFE. And I don't think any of them do it to give a 'nice experience' - id be willing to bet almost all of them find it degrading and the average viewer finds it cringe, so you can infer they do it for monetary gain from those who are a little retarded.

>>18110345
Schizophrenic delusion would be believing I'm literally married to her. I explicitly said it was a group/individual relationship. 'More than fans', which seems completely rational.

Please stop feeding the random troll, he obviously doesn't watch anyone here

>>18110401
>having a partner does become questionable at the least when they go down the route of GFE.
Can you elaborate why? I don't see how. I see it the same way as an actor playing a relationship while being in a relationship outside of the role.
That's a cynical way to see things, I imagine a lot of them do enjoy it and have fun playing the GF role, while thinking viewers are also having fun partaking in the fantasy.

>>18110532
"Non-exclusive exclusive relationship" is a delusion.

>>18110776
I watch more than half the chuubas in the OP. I guess I'm just less mentally ill than is average here.

>>18110993
If you care about the thread why are you shitting it up with silly arguments? I know you're excited with all the shitposting going around but try to keep it in the threads made for it

>>18110993
>"Non-exclusive exclusive relationship" is a delusion.
Holy fuck you're retarded. An example of one has literally existed since prior to recorded history: polygamy.

>>18111267
I'm not trying to shit it up, I'm honestly just trying to understand why so many people keep freaking out about shondo having had a bf and hoping to have it end by pointing out how utterly ridiculous it is. I guess I didn't realize how far gone her viewers really were.

>>18111583
Now you're conflating having had with having.

My wife

>>18111665
Having had, having, neither matters. It'd be ridiculous if she still had one too. Just enjoy your oshi telling you she loves you but don't go full schizo thinking it's a real relationship.

>>18111790
SHE EXPLICITLY SAYS SHE DOESN'T. AND SHE SAYS SHE ISN'T DOING A CHARACTER ON TOP OF THAT. IF SHE DOES SHE IS LYING, THAT IS THE ISSUE.

>>18111790
Shadow literally hates whores who do this shit, I think you only need to worry if she stops playing virtual girlfriend again.

>>18111878
Well she doesn't have one so she isn't lying. So what is the issue again

>>18112475
I'm not saying she does. The argument is over whether it would be wrong/constitute lying.

>>18107096
It's called an "experience" for a reason you stupid bitch.

>they don't have a boyfriend and even if they had it wouldn't mean anything
:^)

>>18111583
It is the people who were pushing that Twitter screenshot who got made when no one in ccu cared, and then got mad when their bait thread withered trying to pretend there's some silly """controversy""". Of course it's probably a mistake to respond to you because you're just fishing for an excuse to rant but on the off-chance you're not you shouldn't take these people so seriously. If you don't get so caught up in things it's easy to tell the difference between someone who is responding genuinely and someone who is pushing a narrative

>>18112618
99% of GFE chuubas don't even apply that term to themselves, retard. You're using a 4chan meme of comparing them to escorts to excuse their actions.

>>18112618
There you go, proof they're not genuine. Can we please end this silly argument now? Not every thread on this board has to be infected with this silly stuff. Please just talk about liking cute girls

>>18112663
I did get a bit ranty, I apologize, and probably fell victim to trolls pretending to be legit schizos.
I'll stop now.

This thread turned bad real fast. Anyway I want to rape Shadow.

>>18106496
>>18110280
Shondo probably already knows by now.
Part of me wonders if that's what may have gotten her all depressed yesterday.

Shadow is /here/, after all, even if she may pretend to not be.

Anyhow, what I'd say to Shondo, if I could, is to not get bogged down by rrats. She shouldn't take rrats seriously, and should instead focus on quality content. She should also take a break from here and listen to whatever music helps her feel good about herself, to cheer herself up.

Shondo Love!

>>18111769
Shes so cute bros...

seems there is no lily stream today bros....

>>18112983
Everyone gets like that sometimes, thanks for recognizing it. It's important to have friends to help you realize when you get out of hand mmhmm

>>18112733
>We
apply that term because there are fuckheads like you who are too stupid to distinguish between reality and entertainment

>>18113702
Maybe it's something she has in mind when she worries whether people will forget about her, can never really know for sure. If GFE ended tomorrow I'd still be there at a minimum so don't worry Shadow.

>>18114089
Pain. I thought little pantsu dropping like $500 a stream would motivate her more but it seems like streaming will be secondary to FF raiding.

>>18114363
>If GFE ended tomorrow I'd still be there
I wouldn't. I get zero joy out of receiving affection from someone that doesn't mean a lick of it.

>>18114637
She stayed up all night on Tuesday putting together her YouTube video, she just needs to catch up on sleep. Plus the raid was scheduled for yesterday

>>18114637
She doesn't do it for the money.
I actually like that she only streams when she's feeling it, makes every stream genuine and very enjoyable. pantsu has said something to the same tune as well, so I'm glad she's not feeling pressured by it.

>>18114696
I mean if she pivoted away from that content, not if some rrat were proven true and the whole thing fell apart. She's still a plenty good streamer with fun streams.

>>18115311
And before you say it yes it would be suspicious if it ended abruptly, I get it. Wasn't really the point of the statement.

>>18115311
That's completely fair, I'm just saying that personally the GFE is the origin of my interest to begin with and integral to my enjoyment of both zatsudan and ASMR. Without that she's just a normal streamer and I don't watch normal streamers to begin with.

>after her breakdown last night Shadow went right back to work on her Valentine's Date stream
That's my Shondo. I love my hard-working mentally ill imouto-wife!

Shondo is LIVE right now for late night ASMR!

I regret that I have to work in the evenings. ToT

Make sure to watch and give her plenty of love!

Please be mentally healthy today...

[Good News] Shadow has removed the ara ara~ redeem for ASMR.

>>18117257
why.

>>18117257
At first it really put me off, but her ara aras really started growing on me.

>>18117414
Awful, grating, immersion breaking.

>>18117452
>really started growing on me
Its called Stockholm Syndrome.

>>18117551
What immersion? You want to pretend there isn't an adult woman behind her model?
You don't deserve Shondo if you call her voice grating

>>18118290
"mature" voice is the fake one though

She's so cute bros

She's said before she knows the ASMR streams attract more viewers but it's seriously double it is otherwise. Is this the power of her former ASMR fans?

>>18115118
You really think she doesn't do it for the money when she's a neet with 0 qualifications?

>>18118348
Both the loli voice and ara ara voice are fake anon

I hope she does ear licking

>>18119038
The GF roleplay ASMRs have a voice I actually really like but I believe her that the lower less-excited version of the loli voice is the natural one

>>18118699
It's just like Needy Girl Overdose, some streams just have higher multipliers.

>>18119358
ASMR was next best to lewd I think so now we know what shadow needs to do next

>>18119478
That and conspiracy, can't wait for shondo to learn about the jews.

She ate real food, or the british approximation thereof. Thank god.

So how crazy/yandere is fallen shadow's content ? I haven't paid attention to her since she became a vtuber

She's inside of me I'm scared

T o T Based

Am I doing it right if I lay in bed while listening to pretend she's laying on my stomach?

>>18121434
I wish I thought of that

I'll be honest.
I can't understand what shadow is saying.

This heartbeat is the experience you will only get with a perfect, flat girl

I bet her nipples are erect

>>18123714
Shadow's exposed chest and nipples while doing heartbeat ASMR!

I want to hear her stomach sounds please

No tummy asmr...

>>18124660
shondo harapan asmr

I'm going to cum to Shadow's ear licking!

I want more shondo kisses.

>>18125298
pantsu please contain yourself

>>18125437
tell me about pantsu
how does he have so much money

What even happens if someone donates more subs than there are subs/followers?

>>18125899
good job and uoh commissions

>>18126058
Flows over to whoever recently was in the channel. I've left my PC on and got auto hosted onto streams, closed them and got subs to them days later.

I'm cooming

>>18125170
I did it! I love Shadow!

She would probably go on about how this isn't sexual but who is really fooled

>>18121434
This is the ideal way to listen to any asmr honestly.

she must know pantsu is loaded if she's not having an intervention over another 500 bucks

>almost 1200 viewers

>>18127704
well I guess that's what wet noises and moaning does for you

>>18127704
1k+ is normal for her asmr streams, people really do come out of nowhere for them.

>>18127896
Is asmr that lucrative that other chuubas are being retarded for not doing it? Or is it mostly that she was very well known as an asmrtist before?

God that was hot when she told that one person that was leaving 'goodbye' it sounded like she was doing it between doing fellatio my mind is racing.

>>18127984
I don't come from knowing her ASMR but it seems she's pretty well known for it so it has to be something like that. Seems like a pretty competitive space otherwise.

Gee I wonder why she didn't want to make blowjob noises when she was barely if legal

ASMR sure seems to attract a lot of retarded tourists though

How do you think devil feels getting told pay2win was a joke but now pantsu gets special treatment for hitting 200 kek

asmr kisses are a different beast bros..

>>18129151
He screwed up when he told her that he's actually short on cash, made her feel guilty

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>18129463
Agreed

>>18129342
ah well I hope for his case he meant short on expendable funds but that's not a lot better

>>18115118
I can agree to an extent but its kinda offputting when people from her FF raiding party come to her stream like when she was playing Project Zomboid and get her to stop streaming.

>>18130113
Lol lily cares about her gay final fantasy guild more than her stream viewers? Lily fans are truly cucked

>>18130442
Lets not bring that here. Also MMO autism is incredibly strong, pls understand.

>>18130113
the annoying part about this is she said before they don't know she streams and now she's got them coming in to cuck us live

>>18130442
understand this is all there is to life for a certain demographic

yeah I'm not understanding shit from the whispers

>>18132687
That's fine.

>>18133231
the breathing alone does feel really comforting if nothing else

see you on the other side anons this'll be good for sleep

>>18133905
night anon

TUMMY BROS CANT STOP WINNING

bumpo

>>18136949
anon...

>>18136999
i noticed... trips of depression
thanks for not yelling at me and calling me a newfag
anyone else want to?

>>18137128
newfag and dare i say
not pog

>>18137165
ur not so pog urself mr

male raid...

>>18137249
cute femboys dont count anon

>>18137372
"you won't be able to tell trust me"
yeah that didn't pan out

>>18137505
She was being nice.

>>18137372
"femboys" are still men, just complete fags. Still wouldn't want one near a girl I love.

That said, a raid ain't a collab or a date, so I ain't gonna sweat it.

>>18137815
>"femboys" are still men, just complete fags. Still wouldn't want one near a girl I love.
Recent events make this statement especially relevant.

Goodbye /ccu/! Good thread! (Mostly)
Shadow's stream was one of my all time favorites, she really is just that good at ASMR. When I don't listen for a while I forget.

>>18130113
You've never played an MMO, huh