/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Why do people even watch big vtubers for GFE? It's better from 2views who will actually read and respond to your messages, not to mention they legitimately will value you because they don't have many viewers to lose.

I'm lonely and my problems are far more nuanced and complex than "brush your teeth" and "get a haircut".
All I want is an escape.

>>18081698
After the Kiki incident I've learned not to watch any GFE chuubas.

>>18081714
Then this is the wrong way, you're dealing with real human beings, women at that for this escape. Learn to live for yourself and escape with other things that don't involve things that betray you, stop falling for lies just because you are broken. I'm done with all of you being used just because GFE vtubers know how broken you all are...

>>18081599
>getting used
Anon its the retards who will unironically throw money on v-thots. its their own fault.

>>18081599
Why shouldn't I prefer watching an anime girl if she's better at making me feel loved than my ex?

>>18081777
Kiki incident?

>>18081599
Based
>>18081698
Reach. You can search for 2views but it's not an obvious first choice for many
>>18081714
"Brush you teeth" and "get a haircut" are still better than delusional escapism, just cut that shit off

Why can't they settle for being rich nuns?

>>18082011
2view from /pyon/

>calls her fans her husbands
>says they cant watch other vtubers
>says her fans arent allowed to interact with each other outside of her thread
>makes a huge deal about how she wont use discord or any other messaging program for anything but official business and she will "never cheat on her husbands"
>she somehow scores collabs with corpos within her first two weeks of streaming
>eventually kiki is cancelled and no one is collabing with her anymore
>she claims she didnt want collabs anyway because now she has more time with her husbands
>some guy kept coming to the thread
>claimed kiki used to be known by another name, is underage, and had a guy arrested
>has no evidence everyone tells him to fuck off
>months go by
>steam friend notification pops up during a game shes streaming despite her claiming she isnt in contact with anyone
>its some random guy who lives in the same country as her
>it turns out it wasnt a random guy but a mod of someone she collabed with in the past
>sounds reasonable enough
>kiki continues GFE and telling her fans to wear rings because theyre married
>more time goes by
>massive discord leak
>no one is collabing with her anymore because shes a massive mehera and the chuubas that collabed with her in the past are glad she was cancelled
>it turns out the guy whose name popped up on the steam notification, the corpo mod, was actually her boyfriend
>kiki was only able to collab with the corpo girls, despite kiki being a literal who that hadn't even streamed for a month, because of him
>it turns out she had used images with filenames that had the same username of the underage girl she was accused of being early on
>everything the one anon said about her was true
>her fans are screaming "IM NOT LISTENING IM NOT LISTENING" while burying their heads in the sand

I haven't been to the thread in months, but I just checked it out and they're talking shit about fandeads. Oh, the irony.

>>18082368
If they're rich then they feel entitled to everything they ever wanted. Besides, who is some lonely loser to them? Others will support her even if she slips up.

Don't care, I love Lua

>>18083932
What corpo and what mod?

>>18087628
If you're interested in the drama these links are a good starting point:

https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/thread/16073756/
https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/44587090/#44587475

>>18089214
Based

>>18081599
I KNOW ITS ALL JUST FUCKING FANTASY, A FUCKING DELUSION BUT GODDAMMIT I WANT TO FEEL LOVED. I HAVE NOTHING LEFT TO LIVE FOR AND THIS SHIT IS PUSHING ME TOWARDS THE EDGE. You know what? I could lie to myself and pretend but I can't do it anymore. FUCK YOU RUISHIA FOR MAKING ME HURT YOU STUPID BITCH! I JUST WANTED TO FEEL WANTED FOR ONCE IN MY LIFE. FUCK ALL OF THEM!

>>18083932
>>18089214
>this shit again
you know all of it was fabricated by some trannies, right?

>>18081599
You're right.
I know you're right, but then where will I go from here?

>>18081599
I'm just so tired anon, Rushia isn't my oshi, but I always watched her as tourist because "well I will always have rushia, always can come back to her and feel loved"
but it seems it was all a lie, what am I even doing anymore if what I considered a pilla of my escapism just dissapears overnight.

>>18081599
These are men that need professional help anon

>>18081599
Shitting on GFE chuuba's is always morally correct. Do not suffer these whores

>>18094652
>>18096332
>>18096351
Find your own reason to live, you don't need the love and acknowledgment of another women especially of a larping one, to live. Will Rushia be there for you when you die? No, just you, so leave her grasp and the grasp of the other women in your life that pretend to love you, get a pet, try finding a hobby that will show you how much you matter and every night you sleep in your bed alone that you did something right, I wish you find your personal peace and happiness. I only reccomend you use Vtubers to motivate yourself never fall in love with them, it's like expecting the popular nice girl in school to end up with you

>>18081599
I'm letting go of vtubers altogether, but I'll become an enemy

>>18081698
2views really are the best for parasocial relationships.

>>18098913
Revenge isn't the way, this fad is gonna die out eventually seeing how many vtubers are graduating. Karma will come to Rushia and all the other liars, some fans legit gave their lives and once that's broken what do you think will happen? There's no need to become an enemy of a sinking ship

>>18081698
Because it doesn't require effort.
You can be "part of the fanbase" who is collectively loved by the GFE chuuba without trying to engage constantly in special ways besides appearing in chat with emotes or donating from time to time.

>>18083932
I honestly don't understand why /pyon/ threads are allowed on this board if she's under 18.

>>18098563
>Professional help
A bigger farce than GFE Chuubas.
They don't care about their clients, they want them to come back and pay them just as much as regular doctors do so they never actually fix their problems. AT BEST they will talk about their surface level problems like work or school or recommend going outside, but never once will they talk to you about your feelings of inadequacy, your lack of self confidence, your lack of skills, none of that.

>>18099280
I mean the point of /here/tubers is so that the fine specimen of man here can groom them
so it doesnt surprise me that the idea of her having a bf was canceled out by her being underage
also meidos either dont know or have similar fantasies regarding grooming up and comers

>>18099280
because she isnt

>>18100046
It's proven that she is.

>>18099454
Then the real problem is how do these people that need real help get this kind of help.

>>18100442
They don't. They are disposable human beings who don't make the government any capital, so they can just die.

>>18081714
Normal people will never understand what real loneliness is like. They feel lonely when in realiy they have 10+ different people to call in an emergency. True loneliness is being able to go for months without saying a single word. True loneliness is sitting at home, alone, year after year without a single happy birthday or happy christmas. True loneliness is being too ugly and old and fucked up to change and being faced with the reality that you'll die alone. True loneliness is knowing you'll die twice the moment your heart stops beating, as there is no one around to remember you or your name.

>>18081714
But this isn't an escape.

>>18099195
The recent yabs surrounding Hololive made me understand how little I'm actually involved with the vtubers I found affection in.
Obviously they have lives outside of their vtuber persona. But I never considered or grasped what that lifestyle would entail. Slowly I've come to see that, who would've guessed, their inner circle is filled with rich, famous, talented, influential men, as of any celebrity.
And then there's me, a wagie throwing the occasional aka-supa, thinking it would somehow allow me to attach myself to these upper echelons.
Idk much about Mafumafu, but simply put I was watching friendships of people FAR above me from a distance, while retardedly larping that I was also part of their success and the fanbase that they adore.
I hope Rushia finds happiness, however this yab finds closure. In the meanwhile I should find mine too. I've come to the realization that consuming idol-GFE and being addicted to its momentary high is a detriment in that path. Honestly this enlightenment should've come so much sooner, so for that I have Hololive to thank.
To any Fandeads out there, best wishes to you too.

Vtubers and female streamers are in general a cancer. Just playing games yourself and finding some online bros will make you happier than wasting your time with these delusions.

>>18100361
your imagination is not proof

>hundreds of thousands of subscribers
>GFE
I'll never understand this. Is it like Nenes husband collection? Then what does it matter

>>18101118
this kek

>>18101061
Based, I hope you do find happiness anon.

>>18096189
>has several collabs in the span of a couple weeks
>suddenly stops
>never did a collab again

I dunno man seems kinda sus.

>>18101366
if you watched her you'd know

>>18099119
I'm sorry friend, I believe in justice, eye for an eye, etc..

>>18101061
Anon... I know you are right, go for it bud, I just wish I had the strength to do the same

>>18081599
You really don't care, stop pretending.

>>18081599
Y-you're wrong! Just a few more akasupas and my oshi will fall madly in love with me!

>>18102600
I do care, I just hate seeing men like me being used like this, you are all worth more than some lie and fantasy given to you by larping girls that just show you love when you give them money,

"When I'm broke my moms won't even give me a hug
But on payday I'm her baby then she call it love"

don't let this happen to you with some random girl on the internet anon, I believe you are more than your cash

Most vtubers are fucking retarded though.
>don't do GFE
>but it gets good views
>you'll get the GFE audience
>nah
That being said watching entire agencies fuck themselves eternally is beyond hilarious.

>>18081698
They're just as likely to have a bf still, either accept you're engaging in delusional behavior or move on from wanting a GFE vtuber

>>18081698
>they legitimately will value
No Anon... Not like this...

>>18101061
Based, godspeed anon

>>18081698
2view GFEs are where souls go to die.

>>18105080
Kaz, our souls are already dead...

>>18107193
if that was true then we'd all be happy instead of trying to help anons and vtubers who fall into hell holes

>>18107546
>trying to help
People aren't listening, this shit isn't new.

>>18109126
so what? we give up the board to goslings?
fuck that

>>18109958
Goslings have always run this board. Cope.

NOOOO
IT'S PART OF IDOL JAPANESE CULTURUUUU
EVERYONE IN NIPON KNOWS IDOLS GET THEIR VAGOO STITCHED UP AND SWEAR AN OATH OF CELIBACY!!!
GAIJIN WESTERN PIGU WILL NEVER UNDERSTANDU
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>18081599
Wait, are you saying Kiara isn't actually my girlfriend??? Next thing you'll tell me is she isn't actually a phoenix!!
...point is, retardchama, I know it's kayfabe. I don't care. I just want to enjoy the show and have a little happiness once and a while.

>>18101194
Don't try to understand it anon. GFE is literally mental ilness. You won't ever ubderstand it.
Nene calling everyone her husband is all it takes for these autists to refrain from going ape shit compared to deadfans.
They're social rehects confining in an anime girl for a fake relationship for a reason.

>>18109126
We're listening, it's just life has been so cruel to some of that we really can't do much to fix it to a point we can find real happiness. Or that any encouraging words are just sweet lies to make us feel better.

>>18110360
>retardchama
>once """"""""""and""""""""" a while
oh the ironing

How do I stop Goslinging for a 2view I watch partially for GFE? I started watching her because I liked her design, kept watching because I thought she was funny, and now I've legitimately developed a massive crush on her & I fear eventually being betrayed like the fandeads were.

>>18110106
>ooga booga bot talk
lol

>>18110360
Kiara isn't GFE though. I don't know how retards think all vtubers are GFE. The whole Calli thing for example was a nothingburger because GFE fags had no ground to stand on against her shit flailing.

>>18110963
Accept that there is no betrayal. You just fell for something that will never realistically go beyond fantasy. Leave your enjoyment at the humor and design. She's never going to love a rando she's never even met. Her love for you will never go beyond her loving you supporting her streams. You sound like you already know the truth. Accept it.
Every viewer is friendzoned form the start.

>>18111083
Calli's issue was never GFE conflict. It was her being a drunk retard who actively engages with people negative to Hololive as a whole- anitubers, anti Twitter fags, SCs insulting her or her friends, you name it. She only gives her energy to the negative and thus feeds into it. Also she's just a fucking shit idol.

>>18111453
I know it won't go anywhere, but falling for her has made these last few months since I discovered her the happiest few months for me since probably 2010. I've done all the self improvement shit and I'm still miserable. I need a crutch like her since I'm a bald permavirgin who can't use real people for it.

>>18111926
I fucking hate TT but Connor never insulted Hololive. He was right that anyone that debuts in Hololive has guaranteed success, just look at Sana who puts in the minimum effort possible and still gets more viewers than 99.9% of vtubers.
The entire cuckbeats drama is just gossip and shitflinging because Holofags can't stand Mori interacting with a group of people they dislike for entirely superficial reasons(low quality content creators). It's transparently obvious even as someone who also dislikes those same people.

>>18101061
I am rooting for you anon keep it up!

>>18105080
>2view GFEs are where souls go to die.
It's a special hell and I can say that from hard-earned experience

>>18081599
You can't even give a dog orders, give up trying to influence other people.

>>18100558
this is actually really dark, anon....

>>18086751
LUA LOVE!

>>18114179
at least there are second chances in vtuber land.

>>18083932
Holy shit all /here/ chubba is trash

>>18112225
As someone who is in your situation, I can tell you that even she will eventually get boring to you. Or something will happen, like today's yab. Or she might just graduate. And if none of these things happen, as time goes on you'll eventually feel the need to go further: sending her long DMs, trying to have prolonged conversations in chat, and so on. She'll string you along for more money or she'll get creeped out by your affection.

There are a lot of men like us that probably weren't ever meant to have normal romantic relations. It's not a nice situation to find yourself in. GFE vtubers can serve as a temporary substitute for what we'll never achieve but we all eventually need to find something more substantial in our lives to replace the fulfillment that love gives to normalfags.

>>18102600
We are rapidly approaching gamergate 2.0 and by that I mean guys like OP will try to use the anger around unicorns/gfe to lure weak men here (aka chumps) into reading their blogs in order to influence and make money off them.

>>18081599
>you are worth so much more than this anon.

>>18115829
>we all eventually need to find something more substantial in our lives to replace the fulfillment that love gives to normalfags.
I don't think I'll ever find that. My family is a bunch of shitbags who I've distanced myself from. I am not religious despite my best efforts. Career/educational attainment is the biggest cope imaginable. I feel like I was born and raised wrong and at this point I'm just too broken for anything to save me besides love, which I'll never actually find because women won't even pretend to be interested in me unless I start flashing cash around and buying shit that I don't want or care about since I'd rather just invest it to escape this corporate rat race.

>>18081599
It is so fucking over. I'm so alone

>>18081599
>I'm tired
It's none of your business, retard. Know your place.

>>18081599
AND ANONS LAUGHED AT ME FOR SAYING I ENJOY VTUBERS JUST FOR ENTERTAINMENT

HA

SERVES YOU RIGHT KEKS

>>18081599
I'm a 38 year old lifelong NEET. GFE is the only thing preventing me from blowing my brains out. it's the only contact with the outside world I have. Every day I stare down a barrel but am too pussy to do it. Some people are too far gone OP.

>>18116876
KEK

>>18100558
It's pointless to try and explain anything, you just give more ammo to be used against us each time you do. You have to understand that normal people despise losers and want us dead. They aren't apathetic, they're resentful.

Eh, just be blackpilled, live your life in joy, and sometimes enjoy these emotional prostitutes. Don't empty your wallet. Women are children that can't love their man the way men love their women. If they can't love one person, you can see how much they truly love you when you're one of 50, 10k or 1 million.
Use the prostitute for a pick-me-up, and go do other things that make you happy or improve your life. If you had fun, you might drop as much money as you spend on games for the month. If she's a millionaire and you're still dropping more money than a membership, that's on you.
You really wouldn't want to grow old with her, btw. She'll definitely turn into a harpy sooner rather than later. Constantly having to prove yourself, pass shittests, etc. Versus you spending fun time doing whatever you want.

>>18100558
Stop expecting what society told you to expect, ok? Don't seek validation from others, respect yourself. We're social animals, but you can merely find a forum of like-minded people and chat away. Don't hope/expect things to happen to you, be proactive.

>>18117119
>which I'll never actually find because women won't even pretend to be interested in me unless I start flashing cash around
Spoilering because I'm venturing into blogpost territory, but right before the coof happened I was able to visit Japan for comiket. I did the usual tourist-y things, but going to comiket was an amazing experience for me. You see weird things that even western conventions don't have. Someday I might vomit it all into a blog, but the most vivid and intense experience I ever had in my entire life was seeing a woman (I later learned she was a porn actress) selling FGO doujinshi while wearing the kinds of micro bikinis you only see in the art she was selling. And I wanted to ravish her, just drop my books, bend her over the card table in front of me and violate her flat little body over and over. Do the type of shit to her that you also only see in doujins.
Why did I just type out this insane shit? Because I'm being completely serious when I say that those two seconds of staring at that slut's flat chest and tanned body were a spark that lit a fire in me, and I walked out of big sight wanting to do something with my life. It's taken a while to figure out exactly how I want to create pornographic content, covid has hurt some of my plans and I've wasted time on false starts. But ever since that moment I've found fulfillment in wanting to do the lewdest shit imaginable and subject women to my desires, degrade them through my art, writing, etc. I want to be the disgusting, fat-faced, ugly bastard doujin artist proudly selling his orc-rape doujins while a girl past her prime degrades herself in front of thousands of fat virgins ogling her exposed body.
Moral of the story: you will never know where or when you will find that one beautiful thing that will make your life whole. It took me years between the time I was last happy and that day in comiketto find my passion in life. Don't give up hope, continue to simp for your oshi if she helps you get through the day, and be open to the fact that you might find what makes you whole in the most unexpected of places. You could find a woman who will love you, sure. Or it could be some schizo insanity that you'd never have thought of. Trust me anon, what makes you happy is out there and you need to go looking for it!
So how rapeable is your oshi, anyway?

>>18120446
shine on you crazy diamond

>>18118639
You are just in denial.

>>18100558
>STOP DEMEANING FEMALE ENTERTAINERS GRRRR
>YOU NEVER HAD A CHANCE SWEATY
>I WANT TO WATCH MY OSHI HAVE SEX WITH OTHER MEN
Anon, I know these virtue signaling faggots get on your nerve, but don’t let that stop you from integrating back into society. You might be alone, but you’re still here. Every day is a new beginning and a second chance. And all virtue signaling faggots please off yourself

>>18094652
if you need help go talk to your friends, family and people you trust, life can be great and will get even better after the pandemic ends so do not waste it and life have a lot of good experiences and memories that are gonna make you think it was all worth it, a lot of people who tried to end their lives remember that they changed their mind and are happy to be alive, if necessary search for help in the internet and if you can afford it call a therapist "ending your life is a permanent solution to a temporary problem" also do not be shy to call for help..

>>18118740
>>18124032

>>18120446
This post is insane and I love it

>>18124032
>if you need help go talk to your friends, family and people you trust
I tried this, all it did was make me lose my friends and distanced me from my family. Not to say some emo "noone understands me" shit, but people mostly don't want to listen to your problems

>>18124032
How the fuck am I supposed to tell my family or friends or anyone, that I rely on anime girl streamers for the feels

>>18125958
Well good luck, maybe you can find friends in internet communities of hobbies/things you like

>>18120446
>2nd spoiler
very

get the fuck out alone, faggot. i'm still simping for idiots bc i'm a idiot. but no a delusional and parasocial faggot like you

this board and these threads are cowshit, you fat crybabies weebs

>>18120446
Shadow integration. Jung would be proud.

>>18110963
Warning, sincere post ahead: Unrequited love is a natural part of life. Use this to reflect on yourself, try to grow from this experience, and move forward. Learn to be a mature adult that can take things in stride, no matter how bittersweet, and see life hard things in life as a lesson to learn from.

>>18083932
>got a guy arrested
falsely accused him of rape btw

>>18112378
"lol", Anya laughed, "lmao"

>>18081599
Only if you're a fucking weirdo. I'll continue watching Vtubers to be entertained, thank you. Shit like this is why people hate Hololive fans.

>>18081599
GFE is manipulative as fuck. No sympathy for anyone pulling this shit when it all comes crashing down. You guys can find your own happiness. Put in the effort and don't give up.

>>18112378
>Connor never insulted Hololive
Whatever help you sleep at night, my love.

I just like want to see cute girls be happy.

>>18137736
No you don’t. You only want to see cute gurls be happy in a way that’s acceptable to you.

>>18120446
As another artfag it's good that you found your muse to make you jump into making lewd content, godspeed

>>18081599
I hate women. I really, really do. This whole thing is bullshit and women are bullshit. That's the lesson.

>>18138635
This is truth. Whether IRL or behind an anime avatar, women are women.

NOTHING IS FUCKING REAL

NO HAPPINESS IS REAL

THE ONLY THING REAL IS PAIN AND DISSAPOINTMENT AND LONELINESS

>>18101061
i'm glad you found closure anon, but not all holos are like that, Miko truly values her fanbase, and no one has evidence that can prove otherwise.

>>18110963
make a conscious effort to stop watching her for 2 weeks. Leave a message and leave the stream immediately if you have to... Do literally anything else. Watch anime, watch vtubers, play that game you've been meaning to...Then visit the stream 2 weeks later See if you have the same feelings. See if she recognizes you at all (just say hello, don't ask if she remembers you).

From there, evaluate how you want to react. Whether you can continue watching with full emotion because she is safe, whether you can watch with a new wall you have built between her and you because your feelings have cooled, or whether you must exit to keep yourself from falling for her again.

>>18101061
Anon is finally enlightened from this hell hole

>>18100558
>without saying a single word.
You should pick up singing, if you don't live in an apartment building.

>>18081599
korone is my new oshi now

>>18139009
Welcome to devil's world. Nothing but lies everywhere.

>>18120446
Godspeed.
Did you ever get her name and do you ever watch her vids for inspiration?

Don't even think about it.

>>18139084
>But my oshi is different!
When will you learn anon.

>>18139084
>Miko truly values her fanbase, and no one has evidence that can prove otherwise.
You learned absolutely nothing from this, haven't you?

>>18139503
When you schizos find evidence at least as hard as Rushia's.

>>18139560
I've learned to value Miko more for being open with us. She is a loveable daughter-like existence. Hardworking, and values her fans.

you need best friend experience from an indie male streamer to fill the hole

>>18128562
glad to see the Cybers around other threads. Have come a long way

>>18094652
Please kill yourself.

>>18124032
>family
>trustworthy

>>18124032
> if you need help go talk to your friends, family and people you trust, life can be great
Sure, because who doesn’t have those? Just pull yourself up from the bootstraps, it’s that easy.
I wish people just fired a shotgun at my face rather than preach me this hollow toxic positivity bullshit, it genuinely would be a better relief.

I'm gonna hold out until my oshi's valentine's stream and then I'm quitting vtubers

>>18081599
mumei is based?

>>18100558
And you're proud of it?

>>18140616
Responses like this are the reason troubled people flock to GFE rather than seek actual help from their peers.

>>18140496
I often wonder from what kind of world people who say those things even come from. The disconnect between that and how life unfolded for most of us is so vast it might as well be alien transmissions.

>>18140580
I understand you. I genuinely don't want Gura to do the much asked for Valentine's stream. I'm afraid that it will ring hollow through no fault of her own. I'm afraid a part of me, a significant part, will just whisper "She's lying" all through it.

I can't believe anymore. It all suddenly became very, very empty, and hollow, and false. One thing is true however and no matter how much I tried to deny it, twist it or interpret it positively I simply can't. Reality doesn't allow me to. It's this - us men are utterly alone. There is nobody out there who will love us and whom we can love. We are totally expendable, totally replaceable, and nothing we say or do matters in any way. We exist to be exploited and we are indeed exploited. There's nobody out there and there never was. It's all just one big joke. This is hell. We're in hell and there's no way out.

>>18140496
Nothing about that was toxic, but you could definitely see some improvement from facial reconstructive surgery via shotgun.

>>18120446
You might have questionable actions but your heart is of a pure monk. Godspeed anon and may you not lost sight of your light.

>>18141046
fuck anon, i didn't say it but it was Gura's stream I was referring to. The illusion is slowly shattering before my eyes and I don't know if i'll ever be able to put it back together.

>>18100558
Overdramatic, self-pitying garbage like this helps nothing. All it does is illustrate your perspective and mindset, which only reveals to all around exactly why you are so alone. Seriously, touch some grass, meet some people, go and actually DO something of value, even if it's only for yourself. If you can't put in the bare minimum, then you don't really deserve to try and elicit anyone's sympathy with your overdramatic posting about being oh so lonely.

I can't do it anymore bros...

>>18141334
I'm not sure if I can either. I don't even know if that's the proper thing to do. I am as lost as you are, and sad. Simply, unpretentiously sad and devoid of hope. A strange kind of emptiness.

>>18081599
Watch anime, play videogames, shitpost online, eat well, work out, find an easy job with good enough pay and a hobby. Never pay attention to what w*men do or say if it's not strictly for entertainment and never ever give them your money. Loneliness is a meme, you stop feeling it if you don't keep thinking about it.

>>18141046
>>18141334
This whole debacle reminds me of AKB48’s rise and fall, the group that basically owned the JP idolfags until one by one their stars called it quits either from scandals or internal politics becoming too much. So much so that the group became known for it’s drama and exploitative sales scheme rather than it’s actual idol performances. Fans were quick to leave once they became disillusioned and were able to see what they were actually supporting.

>>18137646
>You guys can find your own happiness. Put in the effort and don't give up.
I don't even know what else there is to even try at this point

>>18142046
Jesus fucking Christ, get over yourselves! I haven't seen this much self-pity in my life.

thank goodness I'm just watching these vtubers for entertainment lmao

>>18083932
>pippa has a bf
>pyon fucked her way to corpo collabs
>koopa travelled all the way to a guy's house to "collab"
>bea is annoying in general
the way of the /here/ chuuba is a cursed one

>>18141560
I'm not that Anon, but you still fail to recognize that for many of us vtubers were the last hurrah, the last push towards trying to reconnect with women in an emotional "We can learn to trust again" sense. All that other stuff you wrote has already been tried by people like us and it did not work. Many of us also assumed girls who are vtubers get us and understand where we're coming from because they were like us. This wasn't just proven false but utterly demolished.

Rushia, the quintessential GFE vtuber, lied for 4 years. FOUR YEARS and untold amounts of gachikoi money. It is venal. It is cruel. And it shatters the last remnants of seeing women as people. We trusted them, we loved them, we even worshiped them. It was all shit. We are shit too it seems, everyone sure wasted no time in telling us that. And each of us is now very suspicious of their oshi, because there's barely a chance she isn't exploiting us too. We are utterly alone. We always were and will be. We tried everything, and nothing worked. There's nobody out there. Even dreaming is denied to us.

>>18081714
Figure out your personal flaws, fix em, get /fit/ and go outside more often. Girls are a nice escape once in a while, but relying on one of the most unstable creatures known to man for happiness is very risky
only visit /fit/ for the general though, everything else is just a minefield of blackpills

>>18142610
women are literally property and if you don't treat them like it they'll break your heart. i hope you'll finally learn to stop pretending talking dogs are human

>>18120446
I KNEEL

>>18142265
You can't understand. You're a woman after all, and have men to satisfy your every whim and desire. There was never a single moment in your life where you weren't catered to, obeyed and indulged.

>>18142610
That's great and all, but... no you didn't try. If this is all it takes to shake your faith in people, then you didn't try. If this was your "last hurrah", you weren't trying. You don't even know the full story of what's going on, and you interpret it like a desperate and clingy boyfriend who can't accept the idea of a male within viewing distance. "Even dreaming is denied us" get the fuck over yourself and ACTUALLY try instead of shitting up an imageboard with your paragraphs about "woe is me, I'm so tortured and alone" crap.

>>18141560
No one asked for your tough love advice. If we can't fucking vent in an anonymous forum where else are we supposed to do it?

>>18142879
I am a man, dumbass. An actual one trying to improve their life instead a staying in the garbage where I would otherwise be confined. That is precisely why, out of all the posts on this site, one's like his (or yours) were actually pissing me off.

>>18142997
If you can vent, then so can I. You cope, I seethe.

>>18081599
>your desperation and cash to fund her own love life
Oh, they get plenty of my desperation, but I'm not giving them any money. They may take my time and crush my dreams, but they'll never touch my wallet.

>>18081599

>>18081698
like this is exactly what i thought last year

so I never been on this board before and just here to understand what the hell is going on with Rushia.

but I gotta says that this board make me lose faith humanity, holy fuck you guys are delusional with all this cuck and ntr bullshits.

Like seriously, she's just a streamer, even she act like a girlfriend she is doing it to thousands of people, what make you guys think that she even remotely belong to any of you guys in the first place? I personally find her gfe act cute and endearing but never have any delusion of any kind of relationship with her, but here you guys acting like your actual girlfriend cheating on you or some shit and calling people cucks for not caring about it.

like holy shit I just can't even imagine what is going in your mind lmao, I didn't believe that human can think like this.

I superchat because I find them entertaining and never thought any thing beyond that, they can use that money to buy condom to work as an prostitute for all I care, I don't give a shit on how they live their life.

>>18081599
I'm actually an outsider and only found out about this because one of you guys posted on/v/
OP is right, but I'd also like to add that your money, attention and time are invaluable.
I'd like all of you to consider to stop watching streamers and invest those resources in yourselves.
Stop watching vtubers, they use something you love (anime) to manipulate you. Don't give your money, attention and time to people that absolutely without a doubt hate you.
What do you honestly guys think these women think of you?
They only see you as a pay pig to fund their own happiness, how can you possibly be ok with this?

I know this is silly ,but I hope this served as a wake up call to some of you guys.

Look into the MGTOW movement, I promise you that you will find true happiness and peace with yourself.


I PROMISE YOU THAT MUCH

>>18142482
Idiots deserve all those girls really

>>18143788
>Look into the MGTOW movement
You had me going up until this moment. Bravo you bastard, you earned that (You).

>>18139336
Preexisting apology for the blogpost. The thing for me is the holiday season is always absolutely miserable and I usually am spending Thanksgiving through February on the verge of suicide. The "sad, but easily bearable" mood I'm in for most of the rest of the year is a significant improvement. Feeling genuinely happy, actially starting to feel idealistic about life and people, and feeling motivated to do things beyond rpeestablished habits has been a complete 180 from where I was 6 months ago. I almost had a date for the 1st time in my life a few weeks ago. She ghosted me, but still, getting ghosted is the furthest I've ever gotten with a girl.
I'm in no denial that it's a crutch, but I fear going from that to trying to quit watching her would just send me right back to where I was before I started watching her. I figure I may as well use the crutch while I can to try to hopefully get myself in a position where I have an actual social/support network and don't need her for my happiness before the destined disappointment, whenever that is.

For anyone who hasn't been blackpilled yet:

-None of these girls are staying pure for you, regardless of what type of content their character specializes in (GFE or otherwise) and regardless whether they genuinely like interacting with their fanbase or not.
-None of these girls are actually lesbians IRL, (no, not even Noel & Flare, and no, not even Reine). Even if they really were, do you seriously think a JP company like Cover would allow them to pursue actual lesbian relationships between employees? It's part of their character.
-None of these girls have an Oshi. No, not even (insert vtuber who assures you she spent all day obsessing about vtubers before becoming one herself, wow she's just like you!) here.
-None of these girls are filthy shut-in neets like you. Do you think Cover would allow their "idols" to openly admit and talk about living in squalor on stream if it wasn't a calculated part of a character?
-All of these girls (yes, even Botan, Polka, Okayu, etc) can go outside and get dick any time they want, because they are female and have a pulse. They are not 4ever alone like you.

>>18081599
This is the end of GFE
If even Rushia would lie to us then no girl is safe

>>18145713
Maybe you will get better if you try new things/hobbies/experiences, find something not harmful that makes you happy

>>18081599
Th-thanks I guess... Y-you too

>>18142482
If they're from /here/, of course they will be a mess. They're the representation of all of us. (You) deserve them.
[Spoiler]I love the kuma, though.[/Spoiler]