/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://youtubeliveen.soraweb.net/ex/バーチャルYouTuber
>https://mix.live-ranking.com/?keyword=バーチャルYouTuber

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

*TALLY OF THE DAY *

>62,187: Aqua (Hololive)
>36,289: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>32,723: Rushia (Hololive)
>25,435: Subaru (Hololive)
>21,377: Pekora (Hololive)
>19,479: Pekora (Hololive)
>18,635: Botan (Hololive)
>18,476: Laplus (Hololive)
>18,000: Chloe (Hololive)
>16,912: Miko (Hololive)
>16,835: Patra (774 Inc.)
>15,409: Mumei (Hololive)
>14,952: Mito (Nijisanji)
>14,646: Lize (Nijisanji)
>14,321: Kanata (Hololive)
>13,853: Nene (Hololive)
>12,803: Mayuzumi (Nijisanji)
>11,908: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,802: Lamy (Hololive)
>11,624: Vox (Nijisanji)
>10,885: Lamy (Hololive)
>10,706: Kanae (Nijisanji)

>>17997135
EN & ID Tally doko?

Cover looking to hire new college graduates.

>>17997195
can't wait for all the software upgrades from the engineers putting hololive tracking at 2020 indie level

>>17996801
Is this the $9k one? Could you convert those currencies and total them to see if PB got it right because TWD red (1500) is only $54.

>>17968577
Asking this again to any Nijifans here.

I think Mumei just confirmed she's graduating college this year (if all goes well).
Should lead to more consistent streaming schedules for her.

>>17997195
I doubt they'll get many applicants.

/#/ is declining.

>>17997430
Tons of sub 1k livers have had 3D and have been in events. They often don't get them as quick due to sub counts. There are tons of them that get their 3C models just for events but have the 3D debut later. Surprised how mad it makes holoweenies that this is happening to Myth when it happens all the time in the industry.

>>17997454
Cover's turnover rate is less than 5%. It's a good place to work, unlike AnyColor, who fired 50 girls in one day.

>>17997592
Cover offers work from home, that alone beats a shit ton of companies in Japan.

>https://vrabi.ml/video/43hPZMAdH7Q
Is it just me or this graph look weird?

>>17997454
I saw this exact same post before HoloX debut.
>>17997584
It also happened to Hololive. Marine, Flare, and Suisei had their 3D models for Fes1 before their 3D debut several months later.

>>17997592
>>17997627
I've heard about workers overworking in Japan especially them working at ridiculous hours like going into work at 5am and going back at 11pm. What are those jobs actually? Sales/Markerting? I don't think Cover would allow their workers to overwork till night because unlike other companies, they are already successful.

>>17997937
White collar worker usually. Despite all of the black company meme, Cover is pretty good honestly.

oh fuck, how the fuck did I got him recommended

>>17998315
I also got recommended that Digimon song

>>17997822
looks normal. natural recline

>>17997584
I'm not asking about the COVID thing anon..
..okay let me just check a few examples of mid-tier Nijis that have had 3D since early 2021 or late 2020.
> Yorumi Rena (Aug 28, 2020)
> Kakeru Yumeoi (Oct 9, 2020)
> Sakura Ritsuki (Oct 16, 2020)
> Emma August (Mar 12, 2021)
> Yuhi Riri (Mar 19, 2021)
have any of these girls appeared in 3D form after their 3D debut?

>>17997592
Apparently the managers that interact directly with the talents have the toughest jobs, and turnover there is higher because the schedule is brutal. Often times meetings are at midnight. This came from a holo whose manager was replace recently, but I forget which one.

>>17997822
Based off my calculations, my conclusion is natural recline.

>>17998315
I'd rather that over endlessly getting mori's roommate in my recommends despite the only vid of hers I've seen in months is Q.

>>17998436
Yumeoi is a man anon. Singer songwriter.

>>17997822
it's a zatsu, they all look like that

>>17998607
I can't believe there's like 20 different DD clippers despite her only having 1 stream recently

>>17998436
>> Yorumi Rena (Aug 28, 2020)
Just a few weeks ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5XL09SfFbo

>>17998695
That small bumps look weird

>>17997175
*FINAL EN TALLY OF YESTERDAY*
Here it goes
>15,409: Mumei (Hololive)
>11,625: Vox (Nijisanji)
>9,881: Amelia (Hololive)
>8,424: Luca (Nijisanji)
>7,339: Shu (Nijisanji)
>6,843: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>6,151: Baelz (Hololive)

>>17998436
Yorumi literally appeared in the daily tally not that long ago for a 3D stream she did.

>>17998463
It's not a turnover. They intentionally rotate their managers every 6 months. It's why Cover is way above than their competition because traditional companies like Anycolor still remains archaic when it comes to this aspect.

https://note.com/gotmatsan/n/n6b2c782f48bb
>In the current Vtuber world, there are two types of Vtubers, "holo-live" and "non-holo-live".
>This tendency is especially thorough in EN, and it can be said that there is no such tendency except for appearances in some large-scale projects. The aim, of course, is to maintain the explosive epidemic of 2020 as a "global Hololive boom" rather than a "global Vtuber boom." In fact, overseas, 80% of Vtuber fans don't even know that there is anything other than Hololive.
>There are two types of swamps in the V world today: the "holo-live" swamp and the "non-holo-live" swamp. It is more comfortable to be shoulder-deep in one than to have one foot in both. Once you're head-deep in one, you have no way of knowing that there is another.
>At the moment, the only people who are on the same level as the hololive are the top tier of Nijisanji, but they are almost all male, and the holo-live, which is forbidden to men, has no real collaborators who are not subject to the listener drain

>>17998910
>note
I ain't reading that shit. I don't care what point is being made I just know schizo shit leaks in here every time someone links it.

Who won the lamy timeslot gold?

Push

>>17998975
Tldr: Holo rules niji drools

>>17999076
lamy

>>17998910
This does makes sense.
When you go and ask from Nijisanji communities what they like about the members, they'd often tell you why their vtubers are superior to Hololive.
If you go to Hololive communities and ask the same question, they'd politely tell you what they like about the Holos and refer you to tons of Holo clippings which will eventually lead down to the rabbit hole.

>>17998436
pretty sure all of them have now that I think about it

>>17998724
>>17998805
ok so one out of 5 random examples..
That was what I was wondering about. Holo members getting a 3D is usually also followed by them doing a sololive, live with guests, coming on as a guest in another holo's live, appearing in hologra, making 3D MVs/shorts themselves etc.
This usually happens between 6 months and a year for pretty much every single Holo that have gotten a 3D.

The thing I was wondering about was whether the mid tier members of Niji are actually doing anything with their new 3D after debuting them?

>>17998910
>In fact, overseas, 80% of Vtuber fans do not even know that there is anything other than Hololive.
Where did he got this number?

>>17999076
Lamy, the other Lamys didn’t stream

>>17999324
Unfortunately I don't have enough information. I only remembered yorumi because it was recent and I sometimes watch her when there's nothing else.

>>17999396
From observation

What would happen to new Niji Debuts when the company fails to deliver fame & fortune to their livers? Livers like Toko, Chima, Lize, Ange, Nui etc would have wanted to join Hololive if they didn't care for any male interaction. Sure, the joined niji because it has a looser restriction on what their livers could do, but it doesn't seem to be worth to invest the time when Holo members can treat vtubing as a real job now and they get paid a salary. Holos also possess opportunities to sell a lot of merch from 3D birthdays/anniversaries & albums instead of toiling away with scraps from doing VPs every once in a while for money.

>>17999396
The voices in his head.

>>17999324
They'll sometimes show up on variety shows on the main channel or in other people's skits. HoloGra is it's own beast and it isn't fair to use as an example.

>>17999396
reading the note
>(In Reddit's SubCount, HololiveSub is 5 times more than VtuberSub and 12 times more than NijisanjiSub.)

>People complains about HoloEN not streaming
>Suddenly everyone in HoloEN streams
>There are four fucking streams atm
>I want to listen to all of them
Send help

>>17999510
Nui says she never applied since she didn't want to sing and dance all the time. Toko is fine where she's at. They're all very successful and success exists outside of hololive retard.

Hololive's salary is isn't even minimum wage, that isn't much of a factor.

>Holos also possess opportunities to sell a lot of merch from 3D birthdays/anniversaries & albums instead of toiling away with scraps from doing VPs every once in a while for money.
There are tons of other merch and VPs cost nothing to produce outside booth's 3%. They get company collabs and sponsorships.

>>17999659
>Hololive
>everyone's live

>>17999510
>What would happen to new Niji Debuts when the company fails to deliver fame & fortune to their livers?
It's on the liver. They're given all the tools they need.

>>17999659
They are doing it all intentionally just to fuck up this thread.

>>16135327
The results of the turtle race after one month.
girl_dm_ took a big lead but Rakun accelerated again. Millie is also catching up with girl_dm_.

>>17999659
I bet they shitpost in this thread

>>17999324
Considering how Aqua said you need to book the Hololive studio 3 months in advance, I can't imagine how busy Niji's studio must be with almost 3 times as many members and how many 3D VODs they release.

>whether the mid tier members of Niji are actually doing anything with their new 3D after debuting them?
Rion is a pretty low tier Niji and she appears in 3D stuff quite often.
For mid-tier, I think Ryushen uses their 3D quite often for VOD content.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbevuXXns3k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS80jHigNdY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSJBjYM9Gsg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5k1mkLD-qG0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjQlKmoFBuA (1.4 mil views)

Nijis also release weekly 3D content in the form of levergacha and those ROF-MAO VODs.

>>17998910
This guy basically predicts that if vtubing gets bigger, Hololive isn't going to grow because they don't have connections from collabing with non-Hololivers.
He also doesn't believe that Hololivers are busy to the point where they don't collab with outsiders. I recall Tamaki once talked about this saying something to the effect of "They're busy as hell and their priority is to collab within the company when they're free".

>>17996976
>/#/ - Numbers thread

You know, it would be a shame if, one day, someone misinterpreted this thread as any numbers in general and not specifically for vtuber stats.

Oh, what a shame that would be.

>>17999512
right, but that's what I was wondering about in my very first question.
I occasionally peek at high numbers Niji official streams, and almost all the time I notice only the well known Nijisanji faces : like Sasaki, HSKW, Chaika, Yashiro, Debi etc.
From Jan 2020 to June 2021, 38 members got their 3D debuts, and yet I haven't really seen most of them in these variety shows or other 3D activities, which is what I was wondering about.

Do we really need to import schizo postings from note when we have enough home grown retards?

>>17999729

>Nui says she never applied since she didn't want to sing and dance all the time

I can understand the dance part for her but for someone that spends most of the time streaming RPG and Horse Gacha she has quite a few covers too. Doubt the singing part was that much of a problem..

>>17999999

>>17999999
Yes what a shame that w
Oh.

>>17999931
There is a degree of autonomy when it comes to Nijisanji, ie you have to want something to get it. Less ambitious people will probably not expend the effort.

>>17999999
>9
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Cvvid bros...

>>17999999
Nice digits.

>>18000055
Pretty sure most of them show up at least once on things like levergacha or nijinoon

>>17999999
Cheeky

>>17999512
speaking of Hologra, didn't Niji attempt a similarly animated show type thingey? is it still ongoing? (I remember getting bored watching the first EP, just wondering if it got better or got cancelled).

>>17999962
One of the comments points out that if this guy followed Hololive in any capacity he would know why Hololive is like this instead of trying to piece together matome and 5ch narratives.

>>18000000
>>18000000
>>18000000

>>17999999
OOOOO NUMBERS

>>17999999
Fuck niggers and fuck vtumors

>>17999999
nice numbers

>>17999999
> that GET
nigga what
was this planned?

> deleted
he knew too much

>>17999999
so this is the power of 2hus....
すばらし!

>>18000096
I fucking love Nui but that's one of my biggest complaints. She does a bunch of covers but as fucking shorts. GIVE ME THE FULL SONGS NUI GOD DAMN.

>>17999800
So game perms when?

>>17998910
That chart looks like paizuri.

>>18000227
A hooman in /who/ talking math. This makes sense.

>>18000096
NTA, but there's a pretty popular clip of Nui clarifying why she chose to apply to Niji over Hololive so saying she "would have wanted to join Hololive instead" is flat out wrong at least.

For many of the females listed, applying to Hololive wasn't even an option anyways since they're older than many Holos and HoloJP debuted 10 people in the past 2 years.
Chigusa wasn't going to sit around for a year after graduating from her PL and wait for Cover to announce HoloX.

>>18000204
Yeah it's still ongoing and the numbers still suck.
Bad numbers because it's boring, while things like Levergacha and B-grade variety show are still doing very well for the main Niji channel.

>>17999962
A lot of them are hella busy, especially right now with HoloFes coming up. The ones that aren't don't care either way or are depressed as fuck. Collabs dried up since they're bigger with way more responsibilities and the whole China thing damaged them a lot. Polka still hasn't been able to collab with some of her friends.

>>18000204
They gave up a few months ago.
Last episode had 144k views.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8Qdv3B_45g&list=PLout9ZF2aCT-vjSf98-cTtwNAivjjpSBC

https://www.twitch.tv/momosuzunene_hololive
Nene is doing a zatsudan at Twitch, which i believe is the first ever in Hololive. i wonder how her Twitch numbers would compare to her youtube numbers.

>>17996976
What a cute design! American Indian chuuba when? There hasn't been one yet AFAIK.

>>18000537
> still no EN subs
> meanwhile hologra with EN, ES and ID subs
are they just understaffed, or do they just not care about anything outside of Japan?

>>17999962
>This guy basically predicts that if vtubing gets bigger, Hololive isn't going to grow because they don't have connections from collabing with non-Hololivers.
This is what we hear in this thread like every day. I do agree it stunts potential growth since it limits the market but the market they have is plenty profitable. Also Hololive's strength is the box push, too many outside collabs weakens the box.

>>18000752
They have this.
https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/snacktimeanime

It's not a barn burner.

>>18000570
>zatsudan
Probably won't be that high.

>>18000762
Hololive is going for the multimedia route. Theres plenty of growth there

>>18000762
>This is what we hear in this thread like every day.
at times. at other times we have anons shit on Matsuri for collabing to much with outsiders

>>18000516
speaking of Polpol, any members here? She apparently talks about a LOT of internal stuff in mengen, so I was wondering whether she ever mentioned Tamaki in any capacity.

>>18000752
No they did something else.
They put the EN subs on the English Nijisanji Channel.

>>18000467
>Chigusa wasn't going to sit around for a year after graduating from her PL and wait for Cover to announce HoloX.
Chigusa only graduated after her position at nijisanji was confirmed, so if she wanted to she could've applied for hololive and debuted as part of gen 5. In fact her going to nijisanji while polka went to hololive is part of why there's so much shitflinging between gen 5 and selejo

>>18000537
The 3D look so stiff compared to Hologra

>>18000939
>20k views
roru

>>18000961
It looks like it's animated in MMD while Hologra is motion capture.

>>18000813
>>18000939
> duplicating the same video
> splitting the views
w-why though? Did no one tell them about the CC feature?

>>18000849
Of course there is. The guy is stating the growth in the vtuber market will stagnate, Cover is diversifying it's portfolio to have stakes in places outside of live streaming. I think his assumption that vtubing is the only way for the Hololive brand to grow is faulty.

>Aqua tunes into Ame's stream to watch some Bronze gameplay
Too bad they'll never do an Apex collab because Aqua is deathly afraid of communicating in English.

>>18001015
Hologra is actually no mo cap, it's hand animated too. Cover just has better hand animators

>>18000467
>Waiting for holox
Gen 5 and selejo literally debuted in the same month.

>>18001058
They’ve already played offline together

>>18000849
They have the resources to go multimedia route anyway. They have VAs (The girls), 3D models, Live 2D, (somewhat) competent programmers and some experience in producing musics

>>18001015
>Hologra is motion capture
Who actually believes this?
Hologra is completely animated, the girls just voice act.

>>17999962
Even then, anyone getting into vtubers at all is going to be exposed to hololive at some point because of the sheer volume of clippers and content creators that would get pushed into your recommendations.

>>18001058
anon the language barrier is the least of their problems. the whole thing would either end up with Aqua carrying her non stop or them getting put into lobies with high ranked players ending with Ame dying early and not being able to do anything. it would not be fun to watch.

>>18001126
>>18000950
Chigusa loves collabing with males too much to be a Holomem anyways.

>>18001058
After so long of meandering around it seems like Amelia has found her niche. She is getting some damn solid numbers with Apex. If she sticks with it and actually improves she can incline quite a bit.

>>18000901
She lightly touched about her without mentioning names. She said that most people avoided them when catastrophe struck, probably referring to China arc.

Kronii original song
111k 4hrs
1M in 1 week?

>>18001240
Aqua should smurf. The antis will allow it.

>>18000950
Polka is a way bigger fish. It's not like Chigusa would have been a shoe in for either.

>>18001264
...well shit.
I wonder if their friendship survived that.

>>18000950
>so much shitflinging between gen 5 and selejo
Was this also birthed the gen5 schizo?

>>18001240
Aqua has done an Apex collab with Suisei and it was a great time.
No one expects them to win, just to have fun.

It'll be awkward because they'll die a lot and have communication issues during the dead air time between games.

>>18001264
thought so. Probably why Niji put the kibbosh on Hololive collabs. The rest of the vtuber world made the monster, they can get eaten by it for all I care.

>>18001264
Ironically, by getting shut out it only made Hololive stronger and self sufficient instead of killing it.

>>18001272
Views are still processing, but it's looking way too slow right now for 1 mil in a week.
Maybe 1 mil in 2 weeks.

>>18001359
They still show Nijis on Hololive though?
>Hoshikawa on Haachama live
>Himawari on Legend of Polka
>Toko on Suisei Sololive
>Towa's various Niji Valorant and Apex collabs

>>18001342
the main theory is that he is a nijifag who is salty that Botans debute dunked on ...i think Ars 3D debute? either way his oshi got dunked on so he went on a retarded crusade

>>18001385
>>18001359
>>18001338
I think everyone knows it's just business. Polka had a collab with Suzuku(?) along with the other Holostars and Nijis on their alt accounts. I don't think they take these issues personally.

>>18000950
>Chigusa loves APEX and went to Niji
>Polka loves Minecraft and ARK and went to Holo
Well, it fits them

>>18000950
oh, is there? any examples?

>>18001485
They don’t but they’re well aware of the circumstances they’re in as corpos. Like Polka will never collab with Roberu as a Hololiver despite being friends and Roberu shares the same sentiment.

Kronii original reached 100k
The english parts ruined it tho
They are completely unnecessary

>>18001449
That was long after the chinkout, long, long after HoloEN exploded and proved that hololive is only going to grow bigger no matter how much the chinks seethe.

>>18001485
I wouldn't blame it on them, do you think anyone wants to catch the hell Hololive took during that time?

>>18001485
wait wait, did she collab with Tamaki on an alt?

>>18001451
lol no, you're trying to apply rrats to a shitpost.
It's just a bunch of shitposters who larp as Gen 5 schizo whenever the thread is boring to start timeloops.

How hard is it to be "gen 5 schizo"?
You just copy and paste the most generic "lul gen 5 sucks" insults like how they have "the golden spoon of Cover favouritism" or how they're "inferior to Myth".

>>18001058
Roboco managed ages ago to get Ame into an apex collab with them and Towa and poor Towa had to carry both the apex game play (both because of skill and ame's trash ping) and carry the conversations with typing shit into googletl because ame wouldn't try to initiate hardly any chat. Roboco tried her best to support, bless her.

>>18001449
Choco collabs with Nijisanji a lot. Iofi has a few times recently.

>>18001385
I still can't believe how every yab hololive ever went through only made them stronger. Any one of the yabs they went through in 2020 would've destroyed a smaller company, but hololive just went from small indie company to global phenomenon, and this is on the back of capcom, nijiniggers, and fucking China all wanting their blood

>>17998910
>comment: yeah sure Niji might collab a lot but it's like mostly Apex anyway and that just feels stale
Apexsanji...

>>18001645
NijiID and HoloID are kinda in bed together.
Indos stick together.

>>18001240
Wasn't Aqua address this very issue last time, you know, the one with her and Nene being too far away in rank?

>>18001676
As people have said before, almost all of Hololives yabs are from external forces (minus Mel’s manager).

>>18001676
And now capcom has knelt to hololive, Nijisanji is sucking dirt, and China is the laughing stock of the world after the Olympics. Karma works in mysterious ways

Nene doing zatsudan on twitch right now

>>18001710
Iofi was collabing with NijiJP though.

>>18001731
I still don't get why Mel is still there.

>>18001730
She clarified it last night in the apex gacha stream.
It was a joke she made to Nene irl when Nene floated the idea of doing a solo Master challenge too.

If Aqua is playing Apex with a holomem, she's just playing pubs for fun anyways, like she did with Suisei.

>>18001676
Goes to show how resilient Hololive talents are. Coco endured almost a year of Management incompetence and Chink harassment before she called it quits. Even then, I think the idol part is what got her to quit. She can't sing for shit and it probably weighed more on her mind.

>>18001774
She makes a lot of money, and gets to hang out with friends. Her roommate income would actually get hurt if she left as well.

>>18001848
>Even then, I think the idol part is what got her to quit.
Looking at Kson's content, it's more likely the collab permissions.

She wanted to collab with anyone she wanted, whenever it was possible instead of going through management red tape (Matsuri and Towa weren't even allowed to be randomized into Apex teams in the Apex tournament afterparty because Cover needs to vet potential male teamates beforehand).
In the past few months, Kson has collabed with like 10+ different indies and 3views, not to mention collabing a lot with Vshojo.

>>18001600
No Tamaki I believe. It's mostly men, I mean genuine men if I'm not wrong. I forgot what they did but people definitely linked it up here so it should be on the archive.

>>18001774
Because the whole thing has been distorted through memes and nijinigger slander, what happened was
>Mel had a manager who made advances on her
>Mel reported it to upper management who fired that manager
>that manager continued stalking her
>cover was like "Well we already fired him, what more do you expect us to do"
Then the story leaked and suddenly it became "mel's manager raped her while cover stood by and did nothing" and nijiniggers being nijiniggers jumped on it to pump up their "cover is a black company" narrative and now here we are.

>>18001774
She doesn't have any reason to leave? She has friends in the company, she gets money and sponsorships despite barely doing anything. So what if one guy was a massive toolbag 4 years ago?

>>18002019
>I forgot what they did
I think it was Gartic Phone

>>18002032
It’s people believing Narukami rrats and he just gets his shit from 5ch and matome sites while using plausible deniability language (e.g. some people have been saying…).

>>18001966
Either cover has managed to vet every dude in the fps streaming crowd or that restriction has been removed since Towa took part in a shuffle tournament a little while back with no issues.

>>18002032
Ah yes, Nijikeks pouring gasoline into every fire they see in Hololive, and it blowing up in their faces

>>18002163
To be fair, they can take part, but they're in pre-made groups...in a randomized lobby if that makes sense.
I'm referring to what Matsuri said during the last Apex Saikyou, where she participated but her group was pre-determined to be an all-girls group.

>>18002163
It's not a hard rule, Towa opted out of it. I also don't think it's a management "requirement" so much as it is a management request that got interpreted as one by Hal because he doesnt want to piss off the great hololive empire

>>18002233
Yes I know about the previous vsaikyou and what matsuri said. It's now changed.

>>18001510
>Chigusa loves APEX and went to Niji
Should've went to holo anyway, going towa route

>>18001966
and we got a good gunpla vtuber. I will forever kneel to her.

>>18001966
I personally think it isn't collab permissions.
Kson is a smart woman, business savy even. She realized people were losing interest in her content because she wasn't part of a bigger thing.
See the difference in the viewerships between her Solo Meme reviews and her collab meme reviews.
Collabs is just a means to an end for Kson, she knows her viewers wants her to collab, to be part of a bigger picture, so she does it.

Nene has 5k viewers on Twitch, #7 in the Just Chatting category

https://twitter.com/minatoaqua/status/1491286859020120066
Nice to see Akutan these days, the coming back of OG Hololive queen

>>18002407
Meanwhile ironmouse pulls 20k just for chatting and Gura 11k even while being culled for the majority of her viewers

https://youtu.be/Xm_LzYO-omU
I wonder what the announcement is going to be.

>>18002518
>Gura 11k even while being culled for the majority of her viewers
I've run the numbers and can confirm Gura is naturally reclining, not being culled

>>18002518
Doubt it. Gura will probably still pull her usual numbers if you put her on twitch.

>>18002534
Probably merch

>>18002407
Just goes to show that twitch numbers are pretty meaningless when Nene gets that much from random twitch zatsudan she announced on twitter

Ironmouse passed Uto, Otaku-Vs started moving again, and Risu finally hit 600k as well.

>>18002407

she sounds terrible. probably going to take another break due to her throat

>>18002565
Can you elaborate more?

>>18002603
Nene is kinda dumb. She did it on twitch since she cannot do a members stream...

>>18002650
Haha really?

>>18002650
Really? lmao. That's so fucking her.

>>18002650
Nenechi probably thinks Twitch is a secret website used by overseas people.

>>18002163
Kenzukos are cucks so its okay for her.

>>18002789
God I hate you niggers so fucking much

>>18002650
>>18002699
>>18002720
She wanted to do members but decided to do it on twitch to have a soft filter since majority of the people who are gonna watch this are people who followed her already on twitch or twitter

>>18002789
Who are kenzukos?

>>18002861
Cucks

>>18002518
Twitch is THE streaming platform. Is super for tourists to find your stream on Twitch.

>>18002861
Towa's fanbase name. All holos fanbase have a name, Rushia fandeads, Haato haatons, etc.

>>18002650
She also didn't know there was a VTuber tag on Twitch and only put in "Japanese".

>>18002777
KEK

>>18003081
She isnt trying to catch attention to this stream retard

>>18003081
She isn't looking for more viewers, just making a break announcement to her core viewers anyways.

>>18002975

You misunderstand >>18002861
The mf at >>18002789 typed it wrong (This you? >>18002894)

SPEAKING OF WHICH:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZxWj7BgnXI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZxWj7BgnXI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZxWj7BgnXI

>>18003199

Okami arc?

>>18001774
If anything I think the opposite is more valid, why hasn’t Mel reduced her other activities and made Hololive her main breadwinner?

She has seen her peers rise astronomically and surpass her while, even if you add her money made elsewhere, she is at best making middling tier amounts or still stuck towards the bottom.

She is missing out on so many sponsorships and limelight by passing on opportunities to grow herself and flesh out Mel’s presence in the company. I’m sure doing less RM would be a net negative in the short term but can’t see how more Holo would be anything but better for her in the long term unless she is reading the tea leaves and somehow knows more than anyone else that vtubing is a passing fad. That or she is just satisfied with mediocrity as long as it pays the bills.

>>17992019
>>17992365
Meanwhile, all the subs Siro gained from that collab couldn't stop her from still losing subs.

>>18002615
uto is dead?

>>18003268
I never play that game so not sure what to expect ? Is it a long game? ...

Nene is getting showered in Twitch gift subs. 500+ and counting. One guy has bought over 150

>>18003309
She doesn't strike me as a particularly ambitious person. I bet making enough for comfortable living while enjoying what she does is pretty much her aims. Any specific desires like performing at concerts is guaranteed just from being in hololive anyway.

>>18003386
I think for some indeterminate hiatus.

>>18003420
It is pretty long.

>>18003427
Is that guy the one that bought 100 or 1000 sets of Nene goods recently?

>>18002400
>smart woman, business savvy
>got scammed
Kek

Hey, it's recommended anon here with your daily numberrot vaccine, reminder to be grateful for the big numbers!

>>18003507
VanillaThunder yeah, he just sprung for 100. He bought $5,000 worth of Nene merch and got her to reply to him asking if his wallet is ok.

>>18003507
https://twitter.com/momosuzunene/status/1473926894626443278

q hitting 3mil soon

>>18003537
She will eventually have more episodes of ff14 than views on it.

>E-EMPEROR!?
Hal catching everybody sleeping with this. What’s he even doing, tournament announcement?

>>18003309
Her other activities make her decent money, better than some of the lower level holos. It would take a lot of effort to incline Mel into the same income range her other activities do, and a lot of time. She wouldnt just magically incline even if she significantly increased her holo activities, she would have to become a significant part of the boxpush and i don't see her doing that when it would push holos that dont have other activities out of the box. The box is strong but it can only stretch so far.

She probably knows this and does not consider it worth the effort and just uses Mel as a networking/for fun hobby that happens to generate some income.

>>18003766
It's the new season dummy, so he was gonna get more viewers than usual anyways.

>>18003766
>>18003846
It’s looking good for gold,’Kuzuha still playing tournament today?

>>18003766
>新シーズン!
anon, at least learn some basic katakana and kanji, it really helps

>>18003766

>>18003899
Failing that, it's not like one can't just throw it into a translator to check.

>>18001848
>>18001966
>>18002400
Absolutely retarded.

Ame why?

https://twitter.com/usadapekora/status/1491326433922523138/photo/1
Pekora is finally giving up.

>>18004081
prepare for the first sub 10k peko stream in years if this drags too long

>>18004081
Oh no...
You know what? Better this than her getting trapped in ARK any longer.
>>18004036
Ah the Ame special...

>>18004081
Why do you keep tabs on her general and post anti shit here. Dont get it

>>18003380
Wasn't this a result of the recent cull of subs that youtube informed creators they would be doing. For channels not getting >1000 new subscribers a day it would cause a net loss.

>>18004036
>Does a stupid as fuck 5 minute ending screen fakeout to intentionally filter people out
>Internet actually disconnects during this fakeout because she lives in a shithole
I actually can't.

>>18004188
>5 minute ending screen fakeout
i barely watch ENs, is this a thing she actually does? what the fuck?

>>18004188
Imagine being a Teamate
1-3 am watching your oshi trolling you

>>18004170
This is about numbers. Go back to your containment thread.

>>18004188
As I said..the Ame Special.
Also, it looks like whatever she got when she went to the doctor's has helped her a ton, I haven't seen Ame stream this much in ages.

>>18004223
This isnt anti thread either

>>18004036
number anti-christ

>>18003846
funny enough Selen didn't get much boost, only 3.5k in Apex today. Is she reclining?

>>18004188
She purposefully disconnected the stream.
She has done this before but even more extreme, with it being *hours* on the stream offline screen before she restarted it just to see how many people stayed.

>>18003199
Godhand when?

>>18004257
never forget that one Outer Wilds stream she disconnected the stream feed for 2 hours before coming back

>>18004249
Are you new to /#/?

>>18003602
>5 sparks in gbf

I swear the gbf and horsegirls fanbase are fucking loaded.

>>18004295
No but its so painfully obvious what the guy is doing that you would think he would hide it a bit at least

>>18004081
Aqua...please save us.

>>18004188
Lmao
The debuff Ame

>>18004222
>is this a thing she actually does?
Yeah, she does a fakeout ending almost every stream.
Used to be cute, but honestly, it's pretty annoying these days when she does it like 1 hour into the stream and just kills her own numbers for no reason.
She just shook off 2000 people that aren't coming back.

>>18004257
>She purposefully disconnected the stream.
Not this time, she said her internet actually died.
The time you're referring to was when she got mad at backseaters and turned the stream offline to solve a puzzle by herself.

>>18004081
Can that franchise just fucking die already for the love of god

>>18004252
Is she legit good? I only know her because she sucks apex pro's cocks

>>18003420
Quirky Zelda clone with a neat aesthetic. And yeah, it's long and then some.

I fucking hate Pekora so much bros...

>>18004382
She is better then Ame.

>>18004382
>Is she legit good?
She's better than any EN corpo by a wide margin (Ame, NijiEN girls, HoloID girls) and good enough to get to Masters in a group with other Masters.
She's not as good as Aqua or VSPO girls and not close to actual Masters or Pred vtubers in JP.

>>18004382
strong player diamond easily, uses squads to get higher though.

>>18004459
Are we going to pretend this is an achievement?

>>18004531
Ame is better than Botan so yes.

>>18004531
>NijiEN
>not propping up their small accomplishments as massive achivements

>>18004649
even choco is better than ame...

>>18004161
it could replaces DQ not ARK, just saying

Memberships are back

>>18004475
ee, pretty good then. Apex tourist probably watching the sweaty gamers since I see aceu and stylishnoob streaming atm

>>18004813
SHIT.
You make a good point. Sigh...
Someone, please save the bunny from her ARK addiction...

Does anyone notice that recent HoloGra stuff rarely reaches 1M anymore?

>>18004840
JP is ok now but EN is still disabled for me.

>>18004840
Not all. I'm still waiting for some JPs. IRyS is back for me though.

>>18004813
Cover....
Game perms

>>18004813
>>18004961
Peko should play FF6

Time to enter the Towa waiting room.

>>18005084
Towa will never finish Ookami.

>>18005114

it's okay, she never finished hollow knight either

>>18005114
Towa never finishes anything. That's why she likes FPS.

>>18005114
This. Towa is an FPS streamer so most of her streams in a week are going to be Apex.
Okami is going the way of Hollow Knight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7Qu-Rjc_VU&list=PLIHyIgRAWkUwY1x_mrhtvVzUCHrCyXYK6
>12 streams, last stream was Sept 2021

>>18005114

She never was going to anyway. Ookami is too long.. like, the type of game you expect Peko or Miko playing on a weekend for many and many hours

>>18005190
>the type of game you expect Peko or Miko playing on a weekend for many and many hours
Oh shit...

Seems like a debuff game. It's taking so long to reach 10k with the waiting room strat.

Towa 7K

>>18005372
Don't think it will.

>>18005182
Shame. There are good single player FPS games but she'll just continually gravitate to competitive FPS. Not exactly the content I like but might as well stream the things you enjoy.

>>18003195
>>18003198
If that was the case, then she wouldn't have even tagged it Japanese. She's just dumb.

>>18005448
Well, she's at 9.9k now

Can I ask for help filling in these queries?

EU prime time:
US prime time:
ID prime time:
JP prime time:

>>18005737
Yeah, they're reading too much into it. She hasn't used Twitch much before, has she?

>>18005869
[Time returning from work] - [Time going to bed]
Take "prime time" for NA and adjust to other timezones. It'll be 90% accurate.

>>18005869
>JP prime time: 9PM JST

37 mins for 10k, pretty sad.

>>18005869
>>18005909
jp prime time is actually more like 8-10pm, but yes, 9pm is the prime slot and when most 3d lives/events will usually go, however, we have seen birthdays/3d lives at 8pm several times, and big collabs at 10

Niji keeps reinvesting their money into the weirdest stuff

Their white day post already got 56k likes and 35k retweets. Do fans really think that their messages will be read or something?
https://mobile.twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1491246716330332165

>>18005869
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_time
Faggot.

This is probably the first time that Hololive, Vspo, and Animare collectively destroyed Nijisanji.

>>18005907
I can see the formula, but I have no clue what each area's constant is for [Time returning from work]. Also one might wanna consider people in high education/training too..

>>17997347
Kek

>>18005966
>Prime time usually takes place from 16:00 to 0:00 time in Indonesia
>In Japanese television, prime time runs from 19:00 to 23:00

>>18005958
i dunno what the point of it is but the proportions of the manikin made me burst out laughing

>>18005182
Towa doesn't really stream APEX outside of tournaments, so she only ends up streaming APEX for a few days a month.

>>18005958

I kneel to the long king

>>18005958
I'm pretty sure that's Genos with seaweed hair.

>>17999242
This. That's why nobody watch nijisanji. Their fanbase are toxic and as dumb

>>18005958
Nobody just wanna topple that thing

>>18005061
Absolutely, I was one of the few to recommend her that game a few months ago when she asked us which FF she should start with. That's not my favorite but that's objectively the best one by far.
Also, she'll love the story of Tina/Terra and how she cares about children too near the mid/end game. That game would be kino on stream(a remastered version will be released soon but I believe the GBA version is still the best one).

>>18005869
I would say EU Prime Time is something like 20-22 CET (04-06 jst /11-13 pst), getting most of the the central and western part late evening. EU viewers are a small portion of the total vtuber audience. Partly due to the other prime times being better for overall viewer exposure but also the general lack of European vtubers from any big company, not to talk about the mixed cultures and languages.

So.. the only possible big thing from Holo today is the main channel stream, right? Kuzuha is playing Valorant again with the same crew so should be another 30k stream

Pekora is playing Pokemon tonight...

>>18006264
Pekora's first time PLA but meh not expecting much from it

I thought Okami was supposed to be a debuff game.

>>18006346
It definitely isn't a buff game.

>>18005958
Looks like some religious idol that everyone kneels upon it

>>18006346
It depends on the streamer really. If they're talented, they could make boring games fun. If people like Toko would play it, it's understandable is gonna be a snoozefest.

>>18006157
Almost everyone knows English to some extent, and definitely everyone in any country that will matter financially.

Problem is, there are already established indie streamer and vtuber scenes in a lot of these countries, which will be harder to make inroads on for a corpo. Russia, Germany, France. Don't know about bongs, but they'll either tune into any EN tuber to begin with (as they already do but don't donate), or they'll just tag along with any other Euro vtuber who's broadcasting in English, which, thanks to also appealing to whichever language audience they can also grab, will put them ahead of brit vtubers anyway (as far as capturing the audience in UK goes).

>>18006346
You should probably compare it with other Okami streams.

https://youtu.be/1Rc24edXjv4
Man, iofi and Kiara made themselves at home on the JP channel.

Q 3 mil

Here Leos numbers from playing Okami recently

>>18006440
Weird how the two EN member who's literally living in Japan is not involved in all of this

>>18006151
She should ask Square if they want to sponsor her to play some of the remakes

>>18006440
I wonder why they keep running this team. Mori, Ina or Bae can speak japanese and represent EN and they're much more popular than Kiara. And Anya can replace Iofi and she's pretty much relative to Iofi.

>>18006440
Poor button

>>18006472

>4k

that's more than what he gets usually. 2k is below the normal tho.. first episode buff then rip

>>18006379
>>18006421
Towa's getting better numbers playing it than her usual Apex streams and even some collabs. Very weird.

>>18006440
>>18006502
Everybody gets a piece of the pie in hololive

>>18006537
Apex and non-holo collabs are a debuff.

>>18006463
3M in 5 days?

>>18006502
Boxpushing? Duh?
If they wanted popularity on the main channel they would have never put low tier Holos like Roboco or Aki in their shows

>>18006481
>>18006502
If Lui's teaching stream didn't clue you in,while Mori isn't as bad in Japanese as this place meme her to be, she's not very good at it either. Irys would be a sensible choice, though.

>>18006463
You are Queen.

>>18006537
You don't watch Towa then cause you should know her Apex streams are her worst performing content. Her singing streams are her buff content.

>>18006502
It's corpo planning, the same as Umisea
They probably don't give a damm as long as Iofi and Kiara can work well with the rest of JP team.

https://youtu.be/E6LWLQjgynE
11k premiere

>>18006610
well duh, I'm in /#/, I watch her numbers.
It's been like months since she did an Utawaku other than the Christmas thingey.

>>18006610

You mean like all the other FPS that she plays beside Apex right. Her latest guerrila APEX got 9k and that is more than what she usually gets lol

>>18006640
12.5k

Number for Aqua's Premiere
I'd say La+ version is still the best one

>>18006640
Nice to see Aqua coming back
Also membership is back up, she's gonna do member stream later

Holos have forfeited the day. Aqua/Suisei doing members. Pekora on Pokemon and Subaru on Apex. Who is left to save the day?

>>18006463
TO THE MOON

>>18006751
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bABntJKOlyA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bABntJKOlyA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bABntJKOlyA

Frame up

https://youtu.be/ZofvzxSk0pA
Shubapex.

>>18006790

the main channel thing has marine and laplus on it but everyone is going to overlap it so....

>>18006463
>>18006564
>>18006584
>>18006799

Inb4 "It CoUlD haVe beEN a 4MiL iF iT's oN gURa ChaNNeL"

Fuck Pekora.

>>18006872
ogey

>>18006790
Subaru Apex is a collab so my bet goes to her.

>>18006872
Gladly

>>18006463
The third fastest 3M vtuber song, unless there is a non-vtuber collab on other channel.

Pekora really run out of game to play isn't she? And she hellbent on not touching Minecraft

>>18006872
i volunteer

>>18006502
Assuming it a hype show for holofest.
They put the most sociable of myth & ID1 that ironically the least popular of each gen.
If they really want push the number of this show just put Gura, Moona, Botan & Pekora it pre-recorded anyway so language barrier awkwardness can be edited out.
I hope they rotate the rooster so everyone got the piece of the pie >>18006547

What is today gold /#/ lads?

>>18006929
>Assuming it a hype show for holofest.
Don't think so. Their last collab on main channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh4emFXTp-g
had nothing to do with holofest

Noel menhera arc return, 500k in 17 mins,

>>17998910
Kek, this guy's entire hololive experience comes from random clips that slip into his recommendations. I assume his oshi's a 2view and he just wants to leech from the holobox

>>18006872
i wish

>>18006980
A lot of main channel shows are the same few sociable members, that's why some popular members like Pekora hardly appear.

>>18006929
Just seems like something they're doing for a JP-ID-EN group program.

Aqua's Kamippoina is gonna get 1 million views faster than Chloe's Animal isn't she? Laplus' has already broke 8 million...

Niji Gold today?

>>18007090

king gold, yes

>>18006872
Then just go to her, Jun.

>>18006981
Noel is a funny case, she having successful idol career in Hololive while still being an ethot on NND. Literally no one in Holos can be like that, they have to choose one from two.

>>18006440
>>18006980
Has Nijisanji done something like this? Having all the branches come together like this?

>>18007090
Niji gets EN Gold and SC Gold as well.

10k Pekora LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Guess I will stay away from this thread for a day, the shitposting going to be insane

>>18007198

>SC Gold

Suba is chasing numbers now isn't she? Good on her hope she gets big numbers.

Man Aqua started an Apex arc already and we have Pekora here still playing Pokemon

https://youtu.be/HawpoBLpG6Q
Multiple POVs

>>18007168
She has the perfect balance, both life funnel into each other. And her tits distract everyone from her menhera outbreaks on the roommate account.

>>18007257
holy shit botan playing apex??!!!!

>>18007257
No botan POV yet? Im looking forward to her number's since its apex.

>>18007272
VC only maybe?
Choco shuba Luna are the one gonna play

>>18007272
Probably just coaching.

>>18007272
I guess her Red bull sister awaken something in her.

>>18007292
>>18007295
ah fuck got excited for nothing.

>>18007257
>apex
>4 people
What? Double duos?

>>18007272

probably just going to (laugh at) coach the other three

Weak day for Holo again.

>>18007295
Eeeh. Shit then. Ill pass.

Migo 12k
MiO almost 10k

>>18007368
Pretty low for migo no?

Look out, Migo! Okayu Sister numbers are zooming!

>>18007419
YGO perm when?
Fuck the Cover management!

>>18007320
Eh, it's chin man gold

Subaru prolly told Botan to not stream her pov because she'll obviously gonna be the centre of attention, sucking all residual Aqua Apex buff from Subaru.

>>18007440
He-Ayame
King Tourment
Luxiem Fujo Baits
YGO hype
LOOK OUT HOLOFAGS!!!!!

>>18007474
She mostly stream buff content isn't she. I wonder if she can keep this up

>>18007440
He's starting at 12 am I think, so it's going to count for tomorrow.

>>18007525
Hal gold?

Schizos don't look.

>>18007518
It's like Subaru and Pekora suddenly swap personality kek

Mio-n 10k get.

Miko 14k
Noel 10k
Mio 10k

No gold for Main channel, they are doing it on the new Holo fanclub crap with membership. So splitting the POV.

>>18007486
Lamy Aqua Suisei member-only
The numbers.....

Pekora will surely pull off 40k on her first stream, then will drop to 25 to 30k. It's still Pokemon, it's quite the novelty too so more people will stay than they used to in the BDSP playthrough, also she'll surely hype the fact that she has a GOD PekoAim, which will permit the chat to bully her constantly.

Looks like number is gonna be bad for Holos tonight, Niji having chance to get gold

>>18007588
Lol no. See fubuki numbers on PLA?

>>18007579
They thought male Ayame was streaming tonight so they retreat to fight another day.

>>18007588
maybe if it was an actual good pokemon game

>>18007588
I doubt it. 30k at most and that is if all condition are met
I seriously think she can only hover around 27k for this

>>18007618
Maybe if she stream it on release.

>>18007611
Nah, membership came back.

>>18007525
Smart, then it's guaranteed niji gold for 2 days
King tournament
Tomorrow toya stream

>>18007601
Imagine comparing Fubuki to Pekora. As far as I remember Pekora got a huge amount of viewers on her first and last stream of BDSP whereas Fubuki didn't.

>>18007629
Well at least it's a different game than Ark. She most definitely will go back to Ark after this obligatory variety stream

>>18007654
Why would it get big numbers? Most holo fan already saw how shit the game is. Are you falseflagging to dunk on her later?

>>18007588
>Holokek: noooo arceus a debuff

>>18007615
But it is. For a pokemon game it's much better than the main games, or at least that's what I heard from French YouTubers who are focused on the strategy side of Pokemon (with Smogon pokemon showdown etc...) and most of the community seems to agree with them. The graphics look like shit but heh, she manages to pull off 20+k on DQ8 and 30+k on Ghost and Goblin, so why not?

>>18007688
The game is fine, it just sucks to watch.

https://hololive-fc.com/
Is this similar to https://fanclub.nijisanji.jp/ ?

>>18007474
what a waste
that would be 40k if botan decided to stream the damn game

Iroha and Warabe collab gaining some traction.

>>18007688
It's not a good game for streaming

>>18007727
Aqua Botan Towa should team up and join tournaments

>>18007688
No I'm not. As much as I hate the game myself you can't possibly deny the fact that it's a much more difficult game than the main series, while also having a plot a bit better than the last entries. There is some good Potential right here for Pekora. At the very least she'll do much better than ARK anyway.

>>18007757
Peko and Miko should team up and have sex.

>>18007757
This. But replace Towa with Astel.

>>18007168
>Literally no one in Holos can be like that
*Chuckles*

>>18007720
Official? Is it?

https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1491366268946903040
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1491366268946903040
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1491366268946903040

Who is Sachiko Kobayashi?

>>18007860
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1491362489107423236

>>18007876
Cute! Holo Gen 7 perhaps?

>>18007876
Famous enka singer

>>18007901
Holo hags mogged.

>>18007257
when will they learn that apex is buff only if you are good at it

>>18007988
That's why Botan is there.

>>18007964
I'm seeing old Holomems singing enka with their kimono model in 30 years later. That gonna be peak of hags.

Hololive at 15k

*NEXT THREAD*
>>18008000
>>18008000
>>18008000

>>18008040
What a number for a thread.

>>18007789
>Astel
Wwwwwww shitter can't even get champion on CR cup