/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://youtubeliveen.soraweb.net/ex/バーチャルYouTuber
>https://mix.live-ranking.com/?keyword=バーチャルYouTuber

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

/#/ is declining.

>>17970643
It's unheard of to pull that shit without advertising it (Finana and Pomu did a members only watch along together iirc).

*TALLY OF THE DAY *

>62,187: Aqua (Hololive)
>36,289: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>32,723: Rushia (Hololive)
>25,435: Subaru (Hololive)
>21,377: Pekora (Hololive)
>19,479: Pekora (Hololive)
>18,635: Botan (Hololive)
>18,476: Laplus (Hololive)
>18,000: Chloe (Hololive)
>16,912: Miko (Hololive)
>16,835: Patra (774 Inc.)
>15,409: Mumei (Hololive)
>14,952: Mito (Nijisanji)
>14,646: Lize (Nijisanji)
>14,321: Kanata (Hololive)
>13,853: Nene (Hololive)
>12,803: Mayuzumi (Nijisanji)
>11,908: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,802: Lamy (Hololive)
>11,624: Vox (Nijisanji)
>10,885: Lamy (Hololive)
>10,706: Kanae (Nijisanji)

>>17970658
if its out on topic channel its also out for sale

>>17970742
yeah, that was pretty fast.

>>17970691
Who's this? Reminds me of Disgaea.

>>17970850
Because it's from Disgaea, female protag from D5

>>17970747
That does sound pretty bad, members streams have always been the more private streams between chuuba and hardcore fans, having someone else jumping in it kinda kills the purpose. Then again with gifted memberships now who knows if that will keep being the standard for member streams.

>>17970747
Reimu and Vox are cute together. If the host doesn't disagree, why couldn't the members just follow along?

>>17970913
The always-on discord channel style of streaming NinjiEN has been doing feels way more open than pretty much any streaming circle i've seen.
Ike for instance has been "on stream" for 6+ hours today, without ever streaming himself. Even streamer houses didn't live in each other's stream this much.
If this is how they're making their group work, guess member only collabs were just the next step. They even member each other already.

Oh yeah Chloe hit 750k just after her stream today so expect an even bigger than usual aka spam next time she streams

>>17971242
That would completely fuck up any newcomer that's accustomed to having a more private and controlled streaming experience. Forced interactions like that wouldn't be healthy in the long run.

>>17970770
>silver hair
>silver medal
its poetry

>>17971461
I see it.
If you're a new viewer, coming in randomly, or from one of the many EN+other collabs lately, you'll be confused hearing 2+ other voices every other stream.
On the other hand, it's a good way to get new people instantly familiar with some of the others, and know that it's a bigger group.

Selene 3k get
Playing Minesweeper, while waiting to see which Apex downloads first.

>>17971461
I wonder how it will work in the long run as NijiEN starts to become bloated with members.

>>17970691
I want to see a vtuber designed by Takehito Harada

can they play this? its published by amazon games

>>17971638
I'm actually talking about in the POV of a streamer. Not every streamer is socially adjusted. It's generally bad manners to just pop-in on somebody else's stream hence most of them use alt accounts if they want to interact with the streamer. So you get shit like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTl6ytHiq7w
I have really only seen these forced interactions being peddled as something good on NijiEN.

Also this guy has a point >>17971790

>>17972260
>Not every streamer is socially adjusted
Then they don't stay on discord while streaming ? It's not like they don't have an alternative

ina will never beat her waiting room at this rate

>>17972260
If they don't want the voice chat they can just sit out of the open channels. Which they do when playing story based games usually.

The popping in chat they can't ignore as much since rrats will pop up that they did it on purpose. Chat is usually slower than Hol EN despite similar numbers, so it's not like you can get away with "didn't see them" too many times. I see how that can be awkward if you're a Rosemi, or a Baelz and Nina or Ollie bring you in a VC.

>>17971698
That's cute.

Ina 10k get

>>17972305
>>17972519
Well, the premise was that if the forced interactions become part of the culture, which I argue is bad because that creates division. You can't just stay away from it when everyone else does, right? That's how peer pressure works which leads to bully culture. That is how you form cliques. Shit like that shouldn't be the norm.

>>17972831
>random zatsudan is shaping up to be Ina's highest stream since her NY outfit reveal
Hmm

>>17973121
>"Random zatsudan"
>Return stream after a week absence
Not exactly the same

>>17973214
Okay, I guess it's obvious I don't really pay attention to the EN side.

>>17972519
>Chat is usually slower than Hol EN despite similar numbers
>similar numbers
kek

Man..that brief flash of hope from yesterday that CCVid is gone...fucking hell

>>17974089
Looks natural to me.

>>17974127
Do you not fucking see the V shaped hole and 15 minute waiting room recovery period?

Here's pekkers recovering hers in 3 minutes.

>back to pretending to be retarded

>>17973484
>Okay, I guess it's obvious I don't really pay attention to the EN side.
How hard is it to shut your fucking mouth about things you know nothing about?

>>17974231
Ina is small time. Come crying when it stops making the waiting room.

>>17974231
It's just some extra verification due to the servers being more spread out. Pekora has a lot of viewers in the same area, it's nothing to worry about. 12k is a good number, don't feel bad about it. Maybe 5k-8k are getting cut here and there but Ina and Cover have the right numbers.

Another round of timelooping with retards.

>>17974507
It's less about the gravity and more about Ame having 2 streams in a row that didn't have this stupid bug.

>>17970770
>Pekora MK only 21k
it's not her game choices...

>>17974826
I hate Pekora MK as much as Roberu MK

>>17974803
?

>>17974819
ame streams are mostly guerillas at this point

https://youtu.be/ecEDLqdtyUM
>cod mobile
is this a shill stream?

>>17975130
>提供:Call of Duty: Mobile
>提供
Yes.

>>17975130
yes, read the description

>>17975253
thank you friend, my kanji reps aren't quite there yet.

https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1490309305886658560

>>17974803
Hes active around this time so just ignore or filter it

>>17975411
>It's 桐生ココ先生
t. ime traveller

>>17975411
it's kariope

Playboard's daily charts are nearly 24 hours late, RIP SC charts

60k likes now. hes too powerful bros...

>>17975130
HAGS LOVE, HAGS SEX, ABE LET ME IN

>>17977343
He will not slip

>>17977343
nijikeks trying to numberfag twitter numbers never gets old

>>17977343
Good. You're halfway there

>>17977343
who is this

>>17977343
https://twitter.com/rei_Toya_rei/status/1467169695958994944
>68k likes, 89.6k views
>return stream
>60k likes, 60k - 100k+ peak

>>17977343
>no streams

>>17977696
Ago, The Forbidden One

I don't think shorts might have as large of an impact on the Niji girls sub growth compared to small corpos. Compared Pomu and Nina versus the other girls you can see everyone has been escalating in sub growth ever since Luxiem dropped.

>>17978059
Your shorts have to go viral to have any impact. If you're just getting between 20-80k on them it means your existing fans and maybe a few unsubbed adjacent Niji watchers are viewing them only.

February superchats so far
>Aqua - $51,995
>Luca - $41,845
>Vox - $37,334
>Rushia - $36,642
>Chloe - $33,130

>>17978204
Obviously they are making them in hopes of them going viral. If you compare some like Pomu and Charzu that don't coomer bait short their shorts perform marginally better than their streams. You account someone like Miori and Nene and their shorts eclipse the viewership of their streams. Pomu's best performing short is a cat girl one. So it's obvious what people want to click.

>>17977800
meds

Kronii MV in 2 hours
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W749jRBg-4

>>17959346
My point was that Luxiem are successful because they are pandering to a market without any competition as well.

>all these miniature spikes exactly 3 minutes apart
I'm starting to get really pissed here.

>>17979368
How long until 1 million for this one?

>>17979534
Probably never. She's wasted any stream it could have and has been streaming up to it.

>>17978304
Unfortunately they pay jack shit. You could get a million views for your 5 second video and you get like $20. I'm still torn between them being somewhat useful on the offchance one blows up and gives you free low effort advertising vs them just gumming up your archive with junk content and spamming people who might be on the borderline of keeping you subbed. At least do it like Kiara and Ame, make it something a bit unique rather than just clipping your already existing stream and reuploading it (Pomu, Nina).

Since the thread's feeling a wee bit dead, I've decided to take a stab at what I think is a fair shake at how much each HoloEN is 'off' right now (relative to 2021. I don't want to timeloop 2020 cull stuff).
Kiara
Latest comparable videos of similar content : Minecraft
Last MC stream CCV: 5.7k
Range for 2021 MC : 7-85
% OFF - ~30%
Gura: GTAV # : 17.1k
Previous GTA streams: 20-25k
% off : ~20-30%
I know this is an extremely simple stab at it, and that there are a myriad of other factors that can affect the numbers, but looking at how the VOD views relative to past, a -20-30% on the CCV would line things up with how her vids performed before (this goes for Kiara too).

can Rosemi get 10k in a gimmick uncontested slot?

>>17979696
Yea...
Anything less than 30sec and in a format that shows up in #shorts does jack shit for you pocketbook.

>>17979820
Seems unlikely.

>>17979820
Yes

Aqua's translator was shadowbanned recently from aqua's channel. He returned back yesterday during aqua's stream until the latter half of the stream when he got shadowbanned again. His translations is visible again when aqua got her heirloom. So i am thinking viewers might be shadowbanned and restore and vice versa during a stream too.

>>17969680
this is what this looks like now, Elira +1k and Mori +8k. Also Mori's viewer turnout must be twice as fast as Elira's

>>17980176
Ok.

>>17979848
Its anything less than 8 minutes that gets jack shit.
There have been quite a few videos about 3-4 minute videos with millions of views getting less than $200, while a 10 minute video with the same views would generate multiple thousands.
Its ~$3.5-4.5 per 1k views for 10+ minute vids, but payment is not linear to time. Its more an exponential growth curve of payment to time until it hits the 8 minute mark and slows, then flatlines at the 10 minute mark around ~$4.
A 1 minute video doesnt get 10% of what the 10 minute one does, it gets 1%.

>>17980197
>Mori's viewer turnout must be twice as fast as Elira
We already knew this. Hololive viewers are literal children with 5 second attention spans

>>17979534
3 weeks. Her singing is not as good as Mumei, but she has more fans that will tune in.

>>17980176
Just Sam got shadowbanned midstream? Good grief....YT, fix your shit, people shouldn't be randomly getting fucking SHADOWBANNED, especially those with memberships and history on the channel.

>>17979534
Never. People in the know have already heard it since 2 weeks ago.
Unless the MV is fucking amazing, I don't see how this song will get 1 mil within a week.

Hi numberfags, here's a fellow numberfag in making, I have a dilemma: how does IP counter in board work? Like does it ever go down? Does is counter just IP's that are tabbed in or all of them? Does it counter only IP's taht typed something and does it remove them when they leave?

>>17980944
What

>>17980944
>how does IP counter in board work?

I wonder if comparing the rate of chat between Bae and Lamy's zatsudan could check for the EN cull. Both streams started at the same time so I feel like its a decent comparison

>>17980944
Anon....
IP counts are counted by posts, what are you babbling about tabbing in and other nonsense?
You never 'drop' in IP count unless bans come along and wipe out posts. The board is STATIC, this isn't like Youtube fuckery, I don't know why you sound like you're off your rocker.

>>17981078
That anon is just parodying the YouTube CCV time loop.

>>17979696
It obviously isn't for money, but to attract new people since 30 second and less videos are low commitment compared to hour + long videos. The biggest hurdle to growth is being seen and then getting someone to click.

>>17972974
But that's the nijiway anon

>>17981163
No. User activity isn't an indicator of who is watching.

>>17981232
I hope so, otherwise they're woefully off the deep end.

>>17976038
Kakkoi!

Playboard is still fucked so here's today's superchats, at least for Niji/Holo/prominent others, there's a decent chance of at least one 2view being missed out but that's unavoidable

>1. Shirayuki Tomoe - $16,444
>2. Uruha Rushia - $9,048
>3. Sakamata Chloe - $8,995
>4. Minato Aqua - $8,712
>5. Luca Kaneshiro - $7,874
>6. Ninomae Ina'nis - $4,100
>7. Shu Yamino - $3,153
>8. Mysta Rias - $2,639
>9. Selen Tatsuki - $2,276
>10. Laplus Darknesss - $2,154
>11. Usada Pekora - $1,978
>12. Hakos Baelz - $1,967

>>17981232
>>17981222
Ah, oke, I'm just retarded, I thought it's changing in real time. So it just counts the number if unique IPs from the posts?

Ramy 9k get.

>>17979773

Good day, Pekora haters
Let's keep on inclining!

>>17981728
How and why is this luca keep getting this amount of sc?

>>17981734
A-a-anon.....
Yes. Yes that is how it works.
>>17981800
Ah piss off if you're just gonna imagepost with nothing helpful. Some did roughly the same when JP was getting culled, comparing past CCV to the numbers they were getting during early January and many got cull ranges that ended up being pretty close to what Towa and Botan reported (being culled 60-75%).

>>17982020
milestones

Kronii original song!
1M in 2-3 days?

https://youtu.be/6W749jRBg-4

>>17982020
200k
>>17982081
>anoucned 3 hours before premierieng
rough

>>17982081
Song has been out for quite some time now.

I predict same as Mumei's. 12 days or longer

>>17982020
He does long super chat readings as well.

5.4k peak on a zatsudan. Good shit Bae. Looks like 5k is a solid floor for her now.

>>17982081
>>17982203

Might be possible in <10 days. The lack of Kronii recently could mean that her fans would just keep looping her song as they continue to wait for her.

>>17981728
Wait didn't Chloe beat Rushia? I swore the thread earlier was saying she did

>>17982028
That was using VODs for Towa using Shion's and I don't recall any sort of calculation for Botan.
Directly comparing their peaks isn't going convince anyone. Pekora got 9k less compared to her previous Mariokart challenge stream and that does not mean she ate a 30% cull.

>>17982489
Might have been on Hololyzer, and the currency conversion ended up putting Rushia ahead (because Chloe's SCs were 99% JP I think, but Rushia's was more mixed).

>>17981728
Rushia!!!

Nimu gained another 10k subs. She's also uploading daily now after the incident instead of on irregular intervals that are about a week long, like before.
It looks like it motivated her to make more content.

>>17982489
>>17982569
Chloe did get more, but more of hers was sent in the waiting room yesterday so Rushia's daily total is higher

>>17982766
fuck south america

>>17982537
That's fair enough, but that is why I said looking at VODs for Kiara and Gura the numbers appear to be stable in the VODs (for their length) Yes I know it's not a 1:1, but I'm willing to admit the entire thing is fuzzy and is more of an attempt to gauge how far off EN's numbers are compared to pre-CCVID after a bunch of users got reflagged.

>>17982775
Ahhh.

>>17982766
>make more content.
>MAKE
>all of it is reaction content

>>17981163
Just eyeballing, Bae chat averages slightly more than 200 while Lamy is around 400. But chat rate is still a bad measure.

>>17982766
Listen faggot. You are here everyday posting shit like this. Nobody cares about some spic chuuba that the endless hoards of unwashed spics mindlessly sub too. Fuck off already.

>>17983313
I mean, I don't mind BIG MILESTONE updates, but literally at every chance the faggot gets is too much.

>>17983313
You care a lot.

>>17983181
Just like the content in this thread.

*FINAL EN TALLY OF YESTERDAY*
Here it goes
>15,409: Mumei (Hololive)
>11,625: Vox (Nijisanji)
>9,881: Amelia (Hololive)
>8,424: Luca (Nijisanji)
>7,339: Shu (Nijisanji)
>6,843: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>6,151: Baelz (Hololive)

>>17983313
This is the numbers thread, it's about numbers. If you care about quality, then you can go to the individual VTuber or group generals.

>>17983584
EN gold so far for February

1. Gura (Hololive) - 14,594
2. Amelia (Hololive) - 16,124
3. Baelz (Hololive) - 13,090
4. Gura (Hololive) - 15,901
5. Gura (Hololive) - 21,737
6. Gura (Hololive) - 15,900
7. Baelz (Hololive) - 9,914
8. Mumei (Hololive) - 15,409

Hololive 8
Nijisanji - 0
Others - 0

>>17983401
Is the Nemu guy the same that keeps posting Knuckles?

>>17983858
nijibros? when will you get prestigious award in the form of EN Gold?

>>17983401
I'm just pointing out that she's maintained a pace of at least 10k a day for the 7th day in a row now. If you don't care then you can just ignore it.

>>17983966
When Holo EN finally drops to 0 streams. So next week.

>>17983949
Would not be a surprise.

>>17983949
There is no doubt in my mind

>>17983584
>>17983858
Has the EN tally been posted before? I've only ever seen it posted as a meme.

>>17983584
kys

>>17983966
They are getting closer. They would have had it yesterday had MOOM not dropped that guerilla karaoke at 2am EST, lol.

Ok, but what about non-EN non-JP gold?

>>17983986
What was the inflection point on Feb 4th? Something happen?

>>17983584
One thing I've noticed is that while Luxiem seems to be very consistent they always seem to tap out at 10-11k when doing buff streams. They don't seem to have a super high ceiling. That one Ike karaoke is the only exception.

>>17984205
She got doxxed or something recently.

>>17984205
Doxing drama I guesss, based on what I read on this thread

>>17984207
>straight up murdered in Rosemi's stream
>straight up murdered by her coworkers in ccv

>>17984207

chigusa...

>>17984207
That is just embarrassing.

>>17984207
Really shows you the sad state of NijiJP. Myth was obviously MASSIVE when they dropped but at no point would you say that they were bigger than the JP branch. Luxiem is legit bigger and getting better numbers than anybody from NijiJP right now. What a sad state of affairs for Niji.

>>17984226
Yeah, it'll only be slower growth from here on out. Their explosion period is over. Only thing that might expand their audience is another male wave. Chances are it'll be five people, but maybe two separate three man waves would be better just due to how debut streams attract so many people.

>>17984207
Let's go Shoe, you can make it to the EN tally and beat Bae!

Bae is slipping her EN gold...

>>17984566
Doesn't really matter. The number to beat so far is 11.8k from Ina. That is the current gold for EN on the day.

>>17984187
https://playboard.co/en/video/_PSbfx0lros
Linglan Lily got 5k

>>17984397
At one point Myth were getting much bigger average numbers than JP, up until the December 2020 cull in fact. Gura getting 40k+ playing random garbage. When they first collabed Kiara was getting more views than Subaru.

>>17984611
Fuck, it's hard to keep track of the Olympics for the disabled. Bae is losing her medal.

>>17984226
Wasn't that one tweeted out by one of the NijiJP blokes? Not to discount how well Ike did, but I'd be surprised if he can manage to get those numbers ever again.

>>17984739
Well, so long as EN is getting CCVID'd, might as well post the disabled olypmics for the disabled athletes, even if Luxiem gets a pass from CCVID.

>>17984815

yes it was

>>17984713
Null point, Subaru wasn't as big back then.

>>17984207
What is Lize secret to get good number being female in mansanji?

>>17985107
Lize is Sex.

>>17985107
Genshin.

>>17985001
She wasnt huge but she was solidly an upper-mid tier in viewership for the time with an average of 14-15k.

>>17985107
pokemon,dq and genshin gacha
that is the only source of her numebrs

>>17984207
Shu has more than the other 3 POVs combined right now and he's speaking in JP so idek who's watching him rn tbqh.
This should be Oliver and Chigusa's domain, since it's a collab in JP.

>>17985107
Her style is closer to hololive then nijisanji
>>17985134
Retard

>>17985259

Chigusa is literally getting less than Petra right now. She is that much of a midget? like wtf

>>17985216
>pokemon
She started later than most Nijis and still gets 16-22k with PLA
>dq
Many Nijis play DQ too and seeing Pekora's recent numbers, it ain't a buff
>genshin
A shitton of Nijis play Genshin too and Lize is the only Niji that gets 10k+ doing Genshin story.

Any more "explanations"?

>>17985261
I just checked her channel and she only does collab with guys when it's official events.

>>17985381
Some people just cant handle Lize's Sex appeal.

>>17985351
don't you dare comparing selejo ace to obys runt!!

Slow day huh?

Are rosemi numbers normal?

>>17985381
how does that negate what i say?
Lize is the niji people think about when they thing about any of those games. She represent those games on niji.
She has streamed pokemon and DQ long enough. That is where most of their numbers come from because is most of her content sometimes.

>>17984633
is that enough for a TW gold? does vox count in TW gold ladder?

>>17985460
>selejo ace
Move over Chigu-chan, there's a new champ in town

>>17985627
special stream like rosemi late night. Lower than her last one since the content is jsut messy.
She really needs to organize better her shit or put more effort on it.

>>17984207
The power ranger wave was really weak.
The yellow doesn't stream much.
Red only does a bit well with musics.
Green had a lot of "she will be big" but got nowhere, even her music side crumbled.
Blue got the most support because "hero" and she was liked by others vtubers but really never got high, there we're special ocasions she hit big numbers but it was just a fluke.
Pink started slow, got some attention recently but didn't do much with it.
I doubt Nijisanji will release a full female only JP wave again.

>>17984713
Much is a little steep. Outside of Gura they were all just good numbers with no RBCs to weigh the average down. I think there is a big difference between the top JP and the top EN getting 45k and the top NijiENs getting 11k. Pekora, Aqua, Marine, Shion, Korone, Miko, and Ayame all averaged more than EN's #2 at that point, Ame.

>>17985635
If she gets the same numbers for all her usual streams (which others don't, Niji PLA and Genshin numbers are down the gutter), maybe it's because it's her streaming it, rather than the content being the reason for the numbers.

>>17985643
Yeah that's really good for a TW stream, Lily is definitely the biggest chuuba there right now and her singing streams do especially well. It also easily beat all the ID streams today.

Good news guys
Kronii will stream

>>17985723
Rosemi Night live had a boost because it was a big collab and everyone was talking about it during Selen's birthday stream that had like 8-9k viewers

>>17985881
Why is the Clock so dumb? No build up stream to MV and an afterparty that clashes with IRyS and Mumei.

>>17985949
It just feels to me like there is no communication when it comes to schedules in EN. They do this all the time. Long dead hours and then all of a sudden they all stream at the same time.

>>17985643
And no lol, if Bae doesn't count for the KR tally then Luxiem who don't speak a lick of Chinese don't count for TW

>>17986041
Luca got Taiwan yab buff,
does it count?

>>17985949
>clashes with IRyS
based, fuck irys for stealing council debut buff

>>17985723
She isn't getting away from Tsunscuff.

>>17986132
lmao

>>17986132
Fuck IRyS for killing Sana's dog.

Aren't the Nijisanji EN girls inclining recently? Is this the power of males or is there another factor at work? Maybe them actually streaming?

>>17986132
I respect IRyS since she works hard and tries despite the debuff. Give her any of Council's models sans Sana and she'd probably be #2 in HoloEN.

>>17985793
Still doing way better, just look at how gen 5 debuted at the same time and produced zero top tiers despite not having to fight a cull and retarded boomer nip management

HE IS BACK

ok, gen5 schizo is here
niji got shit number?

>>17986339
not really Elira and pomu were on her usual today, not to even start with millie and petra.
Selene also had a bait title since she was playing minesweeper so need to wait for her real apex stream

>>17986339
dunno, table anon is kill so there is no one else there to scrape the data. They probably are gaining traction for actually streaming. Sana still mogged them in January, beating Selen by 1200, so it's still an uphill battle.

>>17986364
You might wanna start attacking gen6 instead considering how Chloe is already ahead of Ars in all time superchats in the short span of 2 months

>>17986339
Pomu in particular has reclined greatly, going down from roughly 8k yesterday to around 1k today. At the rate she is going, she'll have 0 viewers tomorrow.

>>17986489
LMAO

We tried telling the Pomu faggots that this would happen.

>>17986474
Not kill, but last month was a wash due to full blown CCVID and he does things once a month once the entire month is done, so...

>>17986484
>Ars
why her in particular?

>>17986489
Something something incling, something something buff game, something something free chat, something something averages, etc.
Okay, argument done, Pomu's just getting normal numbers for this kind of content she does.

>>17986566
That is how the Gen 5 schizo came to be. When Botan's debut got more viewers than Ars' 3D debut.

>>17986489
Oh no. B-but the MGR game perms anon!

>Irys Needy Streamer Overload
This will be the 6th HoloEN NSO stream.
How many HoloJPs have played it?
Okayu and Koyori?

>>17986484
>Ars
What does Argentinian currency have to do with it? Good thing Chloe is also mogging Lamy in SCs, just exposes how weak gen 5 really are. Calling out gen 5 for being a failure is fair when this thread shits on Myth and Council all the time despite them doing much better.

>>17985949
>>17986013
Moomer pushed back

>EN timezone
>Highest ccv belong to a JP streamer
What went wrong?

>>17986689
Based MOOM. She gets it.

>>17986691
>EN timezone
You mean the Lamy timeslot?

>>17986489
But seriously, where'd the 8k come from, because that's insanely high for Pomu, even for buff content. Was the meme alone enough to buff the shit out of the SEO? Or could it be my personal rrat that ENTuber DareDemoDaisukis (I wanna use DDD, only using 2 is confusing round these parts) are fully aware that Konami will never give Holo perms before the heat death of the universe so they piled onto Pomu temporarily and then fucked off to their regularly-scheduled oshis immediately after.

>>17986691
Youtube's uneven user flagging fuckery.
Also Gura getting the COOF.

>>17986669
>Council
In which metric?

>>17986900
>Was the meme alone enough to buff the shit out of the SEO?
yeah

>>17986932
Number of dead dogs.

>>17986900
nanomachines son

>>17986900
Nijifags had been hyping it up on twitter.

>>17986900
Yes.
MG:R meme magic is THAT big. Like, if Gura played it she'd easily get 40k+ for the final boss for sure.

>>17985744
>Green
I'm curious why Niji still hasn't do anything to her on the music side. She is easily one of the best Niji's singer but she never participate in any concert.

>>17985351
she's just there since ENshit is hot with JP clipniggers and even her viewers know it

>>17986900
Popular game, lot of tourists coming to check it out, probably Holo EN fans who don't even normally watch Niji EN, or even non-vtuber fans.

>>17987040
The entire branch was a mistake. All the shit we criticize Council for is amplified by about 100 times for them. They make Edengumi look good and we know that Edengumi are bottom of the barrel failures as well.

>>17986900
People really underestimate how much MGR is loved, I have watched that game being streamed multiple times even with non vtubers and it always brings big numbers

10.8k for the MV

Number for Kronii's premiere

>>17987008
40k is still only like double Gura's usual, while 8k is like 8 times Pomu's usual lol

Hmmm.
Man, First Mumei's and now Kronii's. I really get the vibe that these songs would fit right in into an Atelier game. Risu's Original gives me that vibe too.

>>17986900
If you take a look outside /here/, you will see that there's a resurgence of MG:R meme
That alone would have explained it

>>17987192
Yea, I know, but that's just the nature of percentages when dealing with numbers, 20k > 6k in tourist numbers, but the base number....

>>17986339
All the Niji EN girls have gone up with sub gains ever since Luxiem dropped. So yeah, they are getting buffed by them.

Holly shit gen 5 schizo is back!!!!! Lamy, botan, nene incline so much i thought we never see this guy again. You still alive huh lmao.

>>17987215
I like the variety and the different feel it gives from the usual poppy songs you usually hear. Risu's song is also one of my favorite Hololive originals overall. Makes me really curious what Bae's original is going to be like at the end of the month.

>>17987008
Imagine Pekora MGR. Fuck Konami.

>>17986932
CCV, VOD and subgrowth

>>17987321
Awareness of the branch has gone up with the dropping of males, no doubt.
Which is good, they've FINALLY got something that sets them apart from HoloEN, even if it's a bunch of fujo-baiting. Numbers are numbers.

>>17987192
More around 4x her usual.

>>17987347
At least we can take solace that Konami are a bunch of failures that literally killed themselves from their sheer hubris and stupidity. Do you like Contra, Castlevania, Metal Gear, Suikoden, Gradius, etc.? Too bad, all you get is Pro Evolution Soccer, YuGiOh, and pachinko.

What a disaster they are.

>>17987389
Nijisis source: My ass.

>>17987188
The song and mv was just okay imo..never gonna top mumei ones tho..im more looking forward to Baelz original song now. I got a feeling hers gonna be the most fan favourite

>>17987495
Konami went for the low effort high return approach.

>>17987389
>Numbers are numbers
I guess but I'm sure there are more people like me who loved the NijiEN girls and don't like how the males changed the entire dynamic. I started as a Holo fan, moved mostly over to Niji, and am now back to mainly watching Hololive and catching up on all the stuff I missed when I was watching Niji. My favorites are IRyS, Bae, and Mumei from the ones I didn't really watch at all when I was a Nijisis.

I just hope it was worth it for them.

>>17985107
Lize's mannerisms and streaming style much more fit into Hololive than Nijisanji. She has soft voice, seiso type, somehow stick into her character lore and barely collab with males unless there are corpo events. Many Holos fan treat her as an alternative when their oshis not streaming.

>>17987595
Yea, the fact that it got spoiled by the Topic version no doubt is gonna put a damper on this song's growth.

>>17987244
Yeah the Ukraine situation has really brought give war a chance and assorted memes back into the limelight

>>17987562
The EN side of /#/ is on melt down because Niji EN was never suppose to get above 1k CCV, and Luxiem comes in and single handedly trounced all the Niji girls in CCV, often times just solo. Then you assert that awareness of Niji EN hasn't expanded? Are you serious or are you looking for (You)'s?

>>17987389
Awareness of the branch in Taiwan, Hong Kong, and SEA, sure.

>>17987495
>Pro Evolution Soccer
eFootball, anon. PES is dead.

>>17987389
most of the incline is on lazu and that was after the outfit announcement aka the 26th of jan. luxiem did very little on the rest except for nina which leeched the fuck out of mysta and the others.

>>17987794
>Niji EN was never suppose to get above 1k CCV
Lazulight's medians were already around 1.5-2k in the first few months and never dipped below 1k.
What are you even talking about? Lying makes your point weaker.

>Then you assert that awareness of Niji EN hasn't expanded?
No one can seriously refute this.
If we're talking awareness, then we can talk about twitter numbers, where Luxiem has 5x the engagement of NijiEN girls and beat even Council's numbers now.

It only took IRyS 10 minutes to get back her waiting room. That's good!

>>17988065
irys who?

>>17988065
It makes me irrationally annoyed every time I see a 5k EN waiting room drop to 1.5k and then slowly crawls up by 40 viewers at a time.
It's so bullshit when Luxiem and HoloJPs recover blindingly fast in comparison.

>>17987495
Konami hate!
https://twitter.com/robocosan/status/1490318354959110145
https://www.konami.com/games/momotetsu/teiban/cp-movie.html

>>17988204
IRyS didn't even make her waiting room number last time, enjoy the victory.

>>17988248
Doesn't matter.

>>17988204
Why is Susan racist bros?

>>17988248
They revoked train game permission for Holo?

>>17988519
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4MKjTPfSbU
>※本ゲームは株式会社コナミデジタルエンタテインメントに確認の上、動画投稿ガイドラインに則り配信・収益化を行っております
>https://www.konami.com/games/momotets......
>©さくまあきら ©Konami Digital Entertainment
they just follow what the guidelines say but for some reason that collab was canceled.

>>17988248
Why is that the only game Konami will give them perms for.

>>17988618

>>17988618
It isn't, they've given some for the newest powapro.

>>17988745

>>17988248
I'm not clicking any link that ends with cp-movie.html

>>17988745
Konami are such dicks huh

>>17988745

>>17971981
Hopefully...

>>17989037
Really makes you wonder how a company can be so out of touch. Then again, it also makes it obvious why Konami is in the situation they are in now.

The gap between Moona and Shion has increased to 13k, and the one from Shion to Ollie has gone down to 8k.

>>17989314
In a lot of ways they are very similar to Nijisanji. Once titans of the industry who are now mere shadows of their former selves. No wonder they like each other so much.

>>17989371
Moona is gonna win the one million, let's go

>>17989371
It's been a while since the last 1M subs milestone

>>17989314
>it also makes it obvious why Konami is in the situation they are in now
Making billions of yen from pachinko and other stuff?

>>17985107
She basically copies the Hololive content style. Most of the successful female Nijis either established themselves as Hololive collaborators or just simply leech off of Holomems like in the case of Toko.

>>17986691
Omega.

>>17988745

>>17988519
there is a guideline change in Dec that she didn't know until last minute
now requiring file an application for permission (which takes time) except indies

>>17989314
Konami doesn't exactly give a shit about being a video game company these days.
YGO and Pachinko is all they need.

>>17986691
EN doesn't like streaming

>>17989371
TICK TOCK MURASAKI SHIONUS

>>17987347
Blame Cover for sucking at getting perms.

>>17987495
Master Duel is one of the most popular games right now. It got 10 million downloads already.

>>17989717
Yeah because some shitty free to play YuGiSHIT game is equivalent to the all time classics that they used to pump out on a regular basis. The fall of Konami will never not make me fucking furious.

>>17989717
and konami will run it into the ground like duel links

>>17987495
>>17987912
>eFootball, formerly known as Pro Evolution Soccer internationally and Winning Eleven in Japan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_Evolution_Soccer

>>17988126
I Risu DEEZ NUTS!

>>17989717
Konami ran duel links to the ground. Not sure how long nostalgia will last for Master Duel but the slow animation of the match is a huge issue right now.

>>17989037
>>17989314
It's a Japanese company thing. Konami doesn't even credit their employees and makes them sign non-disclosure agreements about the smallest things.

Irys 7k get. Finally her last year number when she not overlap with other.

>>17990072
>Konami doesn't credit their employees
>Nijisanji doesn't pay their employees
They are perfect for each other

>>17989861
How so? It's got nearly all of the cards released IRL unlike Duel Links, and it's very easy to make the deck you like for free quickly, if you only focus on making one deck. They've even done a big free gem giveaway for the milestone.

Which is the better song kronii daydream or mumei a new start?

>>17989942
>arguing semantics
Play it, anon. You'd eventually agree with me that PES is dead.

>>17989861
>>17990070
How so? It's got nearly all of the cards released IRL unlike Duel Links, and it's very easy to make the deck you like for free quickly, if you only focus on making one deck. They've even done a big free gem giveaway for the milestone.

>>17990165
Its nice to see. These were her regular numbers when she had this time slot to herself before everybody started overlapping with her. Nice to see the long breaks didn't hurt her audience that much.

>>17990431
I'm just linking to some trivia I found after googling the stuff in the posts. I'm not arguing anything.

5.3k with 2.4k likes for kronii??? CCVID cured?????

>746 watching holofight atm

>>17990432
>slow updates
>econmy will get worse
>needing to go torugh 30 min duels just to level up
>events dissapointnig
is gonna follow the same path.
>They've even done a big free gem giveaway for the milestone.
1000 gems isnt big.

>>17990491
Update, 6k ccv with 3k likes in 5 minutes.

>>17990557
Okay, tbf 1000 gems can net you 10 packs, which is a lot

>>17990557
It is if you're not making many decks.

>>17990491
It might be getting better?
Who knows, IRyS waiting room fuckery looks bad though, we'll know for sure once we get more data.

>>17990432
Right now, we'll see how Konami updates the game based on the survey result. My only problem is the slow animation of the game. Go watch MTG Arena and see how slow the YGO pace is.

>>17990165
>>17990465
Given she should've been the sole recipient of the Kronii song drop funnel ad she has 6.7k likes on the stream, 7k still seems like an undercount.

>>17990733
Not caring about likes, just the waiting room looks really bad for IRyS.

>>17990599
7k ccv with 3.7k likes in 9 minutes.

>>17990728
You can just turn off the animations in the options if you don't want them.

>>17990812
Yeah, I'd imagine that under normal circumstances this should've been a pretty huge stream for her but instead she's just barely scraping her old peak CCV

Anyone know the URL for the site that lets you input a username and see the messages they've left in streams?
Not terribly numbers related, but this seems like the best place to ask

>>17990685
To be fair IRyS started the stream about 6 minutes late. We know that whenever streams start late it fucks up the waiting room recovery. Same thing happened on that stream where she didn't make back her waiting room the other day. Streams need to start on time for the waiting room analysis to be accurate.

>>17990909
Eh, fair enough, more data to be sure then.

>>17990846
idk man, even with animations off, when an opponent starts off his combos it usually takes 5min+, longer then if you hold any hard traps since you switch priority.
If I don't have any traps, hand traps and the opponent starts special summoning I usually just concede and move on.

Kronii 8k get with 5.4k likes in 18 minutes.

Kronii is making banks! Almost 4k dollars in the current stream and 3k dollars for the MV.

>>17991414
She and ina always a 10k average streamer before ccvid happened. Youtube fixing shit wth is going on?

>>17991414
Can't wait for hololive Korea!!

>>17991444
Male-Vox is finally working.

>>17991632
Kronii could mog Vox if she did the same thing he did but she is too self conscious. Vox is a sociopath so he doesn't give a fuck how embarrassing it is for him or how shitty it makes his chat and community.

>>17991727
>or how shitty it makes his chat and community
This so so much, lol. I was watching a bit of him the other day and his chat is so shitty that it makes Gura's chumbud chat seem like sophisticated high society aristocrats.

>>17991727
>>17991883
And yet neither of them even come close to being as bad as Korone's chat when it was infested with spics. Really makes ya think.

Mirai Akari is now gaining subs after she started continuously losing them a while ago, although she went down again the last time she recovered, so who knows.

>>17991955
Has Vox been infected by Spanish users?

>>17991727
>shitty it makes his chat and community.
To be fair, is there any example of non-shitty chat from a chuuba who isn't a 2view literal who? Chat shittiness comes with numbers. It's a problem but it's a better problem than having no viewers

>>17991955
The ES community is a blight on the internet that manages to sneak on by because people somehow keep forgetting how bad they can be.

>>17992102
Gura's

>>17992019
She's in tight with Hololive, she should collab more.

>>17991727
If Kronii did what Vox did she would be anti'd to hell for being a shameless and greedy "whore".

>>17991955
Vox is close sometimes on SC reading or zatsus since a bunch of ching chong charatcers start appearing.

>>17992019
Wasn't this a result of the Kizuna Ai/Mirai/Siro collab?

>>17992110
We always focus on Zhangs and SEAnigger but Spics are worse than both of them put together.

>>17991727
Yes,imagining Kronii play ringfit,it would easily mog Mysta and Luca.

>>17991495
I dunno, I tried comparing Ina's 3 recent "back from break" streams, and this one is extremely different from the other 2.

Nov 2021: https://holo.poi.cat/stream/uLD10BI53QQ
Jan 2022: https://holo.poi.cat/stream/5Btc6USJKc4
Feb 2022 (today): https://holo.poi.cat/stream/AqaTnv_KQgY

In particular, today's stream had an almost perfectly unflinching CCV peak after the waiting room curve compared to the other 2, despite them having nearly the same start time and duration. Then again, it seems like today's stream also had more hype, because likes and superchats were significantly higher today too.

>>17992365
Yes

>>17992262
>non-shitty chat
>Gura's

>>17992386
She is saving it for when she has 3D. Imagine the numbers.

>>17992410
There's some weird shit going on but it's not happening for every channel and it's certainly still not normal.

Not going to even begin to try and understand it, I'll just wait a week for when it all reverts after the channel reorganization finishes anyway.

>>17992532
HoloEN will never have a proper 3D debut. The day Japan opens will be the day they graduate.

>>17992532
Seeya in 2023

>>17992604
Once memberships are back on things will get awful again.

>>17992299
Not really, there's load of actual whores on Twitch already (literally the "biggest" female streamer in the world according to Streamhatchet) and on the JP side, Nene is doing some hardcore parasocial shit with her gachis and no one bats an eye.

>>17992748
Based. They aren't idols and never will perform in lives.

>>17992532
Why Holo always debuff themselves....
Aqua Peko Gura Mori
and Council

>>17992948
I wonder if Kronii still does the 'relationship points' thing she had going for her members.

>>17992948
Most EOPs have zero fucking clue on what the JPs do outside of clips.
Nene might as well just be the girl who makes funny noises and has carrot husbands to them.

How does this make you feel, anons?

>>17992948
nene falls in the cute side of things and the SC she is thanking arent just "please love me mommy" the realtionship between chat and streamer on holos still hold some boudnaries and respect.
But this is the numebrs thread if vox, luka and mysta want to appeal to fujos go ahead might as well do asmr with slurpy noises too.

This is the current Kronii sc breakdown:
- US is still pretty much HoloEN's territory
- KR is still pretty much HoloEN's territory
- EU is surprisingly high
- CA and SGD are high, but I don't know if these markets are Hololive dominant or Luxiem has infiltrated them.
- JPY is somewhat high.
- TW and HK are kinda low to be honest. It's rather disappointing.

>>17992966
God I hate you niggers so fucking much

>>17993123
TW/HK mostly go to JP talents iirc

https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1491272416995454978

shilling Sega's game again.

>>17993098
Oh how the turntables

>>17993123
What you need to know is that Hololive dominates men's wallets. That's all. EN covers the western side, while JP covers the eastern side.

>>17993058
>>17993104
https://twitter.com/momosuzunene/status/1488363554462142467

I was talking about stuff like this, which is pretty hardcore compared to the boundaries set by HoloEN members.
It's funny because her SCs are mostly in JPY and NT anyways so it's not like kaigai nikis make up a large portion of her gachis.

>>17993123
It's interesting how different HoloEN and Luxiem markets are. NijiEN girls at their highest aren't touching a single Kronii after break.

>>17993298
I think Kiara is the only one in EN that would come close.

>>17993292
Luxiem completely fails at attracting western women.

>>17993123
leaf is mostly holoen and nijien girls

>>17993355
western women likes women more than men nowadays.

>>17993365
*Canada vs US Superchat war flashbacks*

>>17993123
I'm kinda surprised how often sgd shows up on these charts considering how small Singapore is.

>>17993058
Once I started membering some JP holos I was a bit overwhelmed. So many say that it's okay to think of them as your GF. I can see why they have antis, it's kinda sick.

>>17993355
Western women don't pay anyways, whereas SEA/JP/Zhang women can't stop paying.

>>17993298
Nt is kaigai, kaigai is not a synonym for western

>>17993503
Yet sponsors will always go for western women.

>>17993494
It's why the retards who want JP and Stars to be completely open with each other have no idea what the fuck they're talking about.
Then again, those aren't Stars fans either. They're collab beggars.

>>17993203
Good for them.

>>17993503
Western Men also doesn't pay that much in SCs compared to Easterns. But they are likely to buy merch than spending useless SC.

>>17993694
Proof?

>>17993355
What is the current trend for western women? K-pop?

>>17993694
>Points to sold out Omocat merch and Gura nendo sellout

>>17993809
Yes, kpop and e-boys. Sadly, flesh and bones still attract them more than anime bois.

>>17993926
I recall reports of Hololive merch selling like hotcakes during con season last year as well.

>>17993926
Yes, because selling out 20 Nendo dolls and 5 of each Omocat items are worth bragging about.

>>17994011
Right....

I just got my Omocat merch so its obvious they were extremely back logged due to overwhelming ordrers.

>>17994011
Sad cope

>>17993988
If you're talking about Comiket, then yes. If you're talking about backwater cheap cons in some 3rd world US states, then no. I've seen Holo merch being ignored like they're Satanic bibles.

>>17994011
(You)

>>17993940
>I don't know about e-boys
>Google that
I don't have a hope for this world

>>17993365
White people watch HoloEN. NijiEN girls audience is predominantly Asian.

Kronii sc update: She has made almost 5.5k dollars, of which 3.3k belongs in burgerbuck.

>>17994198
Isn't the point of creating EN branch is to attract more non-Asians? I don't see how that's a win for NijiEN as a whole.

>>17994227
>5.5k dollars

>>17994227
Burgerbucks are more valuable than useless chink bucks. Luxiem wishes they could get burgerbucks.

>>17985460
petra gets more than chigusa in general with less subs anon.
>>17984207
Pick up the peak. Petra and Oliver were both over 1k. numbers in 11 minutes dont tell the whole story

>>17994310
Numbers are numbers and they bring in cash. They're not cannibalizing NijiJP so expanding the audience is objectively good.

>>17984397
except thats not true. hoshikawa, shiina, mito, lize and tons of other girls and boys do better than nijien

>>17986443
you dont need to "even" start with petra. She's been doing much better in the last months. rarely she gets very low numbers

>>17994336
Does it really matter when at the end you convert all of it to either USD or Yen anyway?

>>17994567
it's holocope

>>17984207
Jesus, Luxiem is propping up the corpse of NijiJP right now. Tazumi, you better fucking treats these boys like Kings when they arrive in JP and you better give them all the buffs so their 3D streams will reach 100k.

>>17971981
we have one at home

>>17994198
We nordic chads watch JP only.

>>17994627
Where's the Holocope list when you need one? I'm sick of all the Niji fans not standing up when they post that Nijicope list.

>>17994692
You know that AnyColor is releasing another EN wave in a couple months, right?
Enjoy your tide while it lasts.

>>17994692
>last 3D debut was 46 days ago
>Anycolor shutting down their 3D studio for a bit
>Luxiem are like 35th in line for 3D debuts

>>17994692
There's going to be 30 more guys debuting by the time they get 3D.
Mysta has already been declining.

>>17994778
So that new wave will increase audience size some more. Enjoy your stay Holofag.
Slow and steady wins the race.

>>17994692
wake up retard. just today kuzuha, mito, lize, shiina and many other nijisanji were above all luxiem.

>>17994841
>Mysta has already been declining.
Add this to the infamous Holocope.

>>17994844
> Slow and steady
> When Nijisanji median is on a negative slope since October

>>17994011
Why are nijiniggers like this?

why is no one defending the nijiJP boys when they're pitted against luxiem?

>>17994927
Do we have an updated chart for December and January?

>>17995146
Because they are dead. Kuzuha with tournament buff used to be guaranteed gold and now he can't even beat Aqua with the tourney buff.

>>17995146
Because Luxiem members are chads while NijiJP guys are literal cucked betas who are losing viewers to Luxiem.

>>17993098
I hate pre 2020 cull

>>17995146
Because people who watch JPs are not retarded. Manjisanji JP even beats major Holos on stuff like single stream SCs and events. Luxiem vs HoloEN look like dogfights in comparison.

>>17995275
but anon, aqua was super buffed

>>17995414
then why are the the nijiJP girls seems eager to suck luxiem's dicks?

NijiEN vs NijiJP, delicious

>>17995504
Because that's their meal tickets anon. Luxiem bring a new audience and NijiJP girls are craving for that new audience, even if most of them are fujos. As long as they collab with the guys, they will get sc. Fujo audience are not like weeb audience because fujos can settle for being mistresses unlike those self-conscious weebs.

niji doing all they can to save their company

Also, they're doing a rerun of a white day event where people could send "virtual" chocolates + messages to livers for a small price of 1500 yen. You will also receive a picture of said liver too!
https://mobile.twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1491246716330332165/photo/1

>>17995414
I doubt NijiJP guys have a lot of TW or HK viewers. heck, Kuzuha is pretty much unknown for chinks viewers.

>>17995822
Kek, if Luxiem is allowed to do this stuff in Japan instead of being blacklisted for any promotion, I think they will beat Kuzuha easily.

>>17995822
Why does Kuzuha have such a big neck.

>>17995814
it sure feels like niji girls is just some beggars begging for scraps huh.