/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

No. Because it is their fault.

>>17923655
Never even acknowledged them

>>17923655
yes it is, a bunch of retarded enablers that are fine with whatever their oshi does.

>>17923655
No, because they were never part of the hololive fanbase. The moment the brap queen bails, so will them.

>>17923655
Sure
Maybe they will turn down the SC volume now
It was so unhealthy
And I disliked Mori for encouraging Akas

>>17923825
I have to agree that from the beginning they were never a vtuber fandom, they are the most normies of all.

Pity chocolate.

Weak willed faggots that crumble under any form of shitposting

>>17924153
Like oshi like fanbase

>>17923655
retardchama

I KNEEL
I SQEUAL
MY OSHI HEADCANON ISN'T REAL.

I COPE
I MOPE
I WILL NEVER SHOWER OR USE SOAP.

I SEETHE
SHE'S RENT FREE
WITH A WOMAN, I WILL NEVER BE.

I'M A SLOB
I CAN'T GET A JOB
MY DICK LENGTH MAKES ME SOB.

I DON'T HAVE ANY WIT
MY MUSIC TASTE IS SHIT
IN A TRASH BIN, I AM MOST BEFIT.

MY SUPERCHATS AREN'T READ
I'M FUCKED IN THE HEAD
I'M A SCHIZO WHO SHITS UP EVERY /VT/ THREAD.

HER PINK HAIR I HATE
HER SUCCESS MAKES ME IRATE
HER OUTSIDE COLLABS MAKE ME DILATE.

MY VAGINA IS SANDY
WITH SOCIAL SKILLS MOST UNCANNY,
I AM... A MORI ANTI.

>>17923655
It's never too late. Drop the bitch. I believe in you.

>>17926747
Also to the (you)'s that i got last time:
This isn't a rap you fucking inbreds. It's a blatant bog-standard shitpost.
You pronounce it like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOclIBW_6k0

I’ll forgive Mori, she’s autistic, but the deadbeats have no excuse and are are scourge of this board. I won’t forgive them.

>>17926747
I guess they aren't lying when they say "like oshi, like fanbase". Because both can't rap for shit.

>>17923655
What did she actually do? All I can find is Nyanti-tier schizo assumptions about her intentions and her calling out virgin bullshit in a somewhat shaky way. Was it just the lack of tact?
Also the outrage response also reminded me of zhangs for some reason, Idk why i just get that vibe whenever it's discussed, as if they were talking about Coco but in english.

>>17926966
If you want some easy (You)s, go call Mori autistic in her general.
>She's just a big dork!

>>17927109
>/vt/ards can't read

>>17923655
They can start by not referring to the rest of hololive as "members of her extended universe".

>>17923655
It's totally their fault

>>17927269
Cringe

>>17927166
>Was it just the lack of tact?
It was a significant lack of tact and the most egregious lack of tact to date in Holo3N directed towards her own fanbase

>>17927446
so optics matter more than the actual action?
also would antis even count as fanbase?

>>17927190
I thought their most recent cope was genuinely insisting she's on she spectrum as a defense for her actions? I noticed a number of them use that one over the past couple days.

>>17927530
Yes? That's always been the case? Context, tone, and delivery all matter in a conversation anon. Those are basic communication skills any adult should possess.

>>17926747
I guess at least you made it faster than your oshi Mori would have to seethe at least for a month or would ask someone to make the lyrics for her.

>>17927190
Not baiting when I say I’m pretty sure she is legit autistic and nah I’ll be okay with visiting that general. Been to the others but just can’t handle that many deadbeats.

>>17927880
Without*

>>17926747
based and pinkpilled

Rent free.

>>17923655
That's death sensei, not the deadbeats' visual representation, you retard

>>17927571
They must have heard it enough times then, I guess. I said it in there once and got the exact response I greentexted from a handful of people, but that was over a week ago.
>>17927880
You're certainly not missing much. I've caught several bans in that thread.

>>17926747
Get Yung Skelly on the feature. We finally getting out of the hood

>>17926966
Autistic is too generous. She's just a retard

>>17927760
That’s a shame, because you have the tone of an assblasted faggot.

5% pity chocolates

>>17928495
The progression from friend chocolate to obligation chocolate is pretty funny mane.

>>17927832
> >>17927206
> > >>17926907
You guys are unironically too retarded to bant on.

>>17928089
Sorry

>17928371
See everyone? You can tell this guy's a deadbeat from his hyper defensiveness, not dissimilar to his oshi. This is the power of speech and phrasing. Tone and delivery. All very important things.

Will /vt/sisters stop forcing this yabbadabbadoo shit and just leave Calli alone?

>Mori
>Not graduating
>Still making music
>Will get her 3D and make concerts with it
>Doing better than ever

>/vt/
>Still seething and crying over shit people stop giving a crap about weeks ago

Imagine being a mori anti.

Yes-man cucks, buch of them. If Mori ever.....i blaming them.

>>17928929
Lol, yes, I’m a very defensive of the woman whose streams I haven’t watched since last February.
After watching clips of her roommate’s recent breakdown, it’s obvious why she triggers you faggots so hard. She admitted that what she’s going through now is karma for being an angry little shitposting weeb when she was young.
You hate her because she’s you. And no one hates you quite like you, do they?
>pretending you’re capable of psychoanalysis
We both know you know I’m just here to make fun of you. But you may continue to cope that I’m deeply upset.

Seems like the Mori discord or whatever defense force keeps showing up to these threads popped up again. How's that five percent treating you? I heard about this other girl that gives her fans a whole ten. Ten! Imagine being you guys right now!

Deadbeats enable her. They are the ones that are at fault.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDVH1HKPqnc

>>17929347
>I haven't even seen one of her streams in a year!
>I couldn't care less about her, or you shit talking her!
>I'm just here to laugh at you, still not mad!
>So just stop talk about it, okay? I'm not mad! OKAY?!
You really are not helping your case there, anon. Plus
>believing in karma

>>17923712
This!

>>17929347
I'll be honest, I actually felt pretty bad from watching that stream. Imo, the best course of action is for her to leave because she's clearly not enjoying what she's doing, and what she wants to do won't be enjoyed by people other than some yes-men in her tiny bubble. And those don't really count since they will take off along with her the moment she leaves.

>>17929820
absolutely seething

>>17929975
>and what she wants to do won't be enjoyed by people other than some yes-men in her tiny bubble
1.91M

>>17930366
I mean she got that after riding the wave other people made I mean it's like you didn't even listen to Connor...

>>17926747
kek, this is better than the cringe anti rap guy

mori will forever be rent free in schizoid minds.

I like Mori, I genuinely don't think she did anything wrong. I loathe deadbeats though. I participated in drama threads just to rile them up.

>>17926747
AIEEEEEEEE CONNOR SAMA
MY OSHI IS WAITING

>>17931804
CONNOR SAMA!!

If you've noticed that Deadbeats have been getting worse and worse, there is a reason. See, reasonable Deadbeats are gone. People who like Hololive and just enjoyed her content are gone. Mori got rid of them. The only ones left are genuine cucks, TTkids, and (most of all) unyielding yesmen chest-deep in the Sunk Cost Fallacy. Mori can't be bad, you see, because they spent so long loving her! How could they just turn their back on that! Why, that would make them ficklebeats! /vt/ just hates her because pink woman bad!

It's not that they can't see simple truth. It's that they refuse to. Simple truths like "Other chuubas don't have this issue, and /vt/ didn't latch onto Mori at random." Simple truths like "Mori defends her faggot friends more than she does her coworkers, and with a zeal she has never once shown toward any aspect of Hololive." Simple truths like "Her roommate songs are not just venting, they are her revealing things that she's not allowed to as Mori." Those things can't be true, because then all of the time and money they invested would be wasted.

And so Deadbeats get worse and worse on average, because only the worst remain while the reasonable regretfully cut ties.

t. former Deadbeat

>>17928850
Now we're talking

>>17923712
This

>>17932055

>>17932055
I think most ""deadbeats"" in these threads are false flaggers

>>17932055
>only the worst remain while the reasonable regretfully cut ties
Her alcoholism filtered me. The remaining deadbeats are either in extreme denial or see nothing wrong with it because they're alcoholics themselves.

>>17932343
I think you underestimate
a. The steadfast refusal of any current Deadbeat to see ANYTHING negative about Mori-- seriously, she may as well be a deity to them
and
b. Their inability to not take bait. It is a running joke in /morig/ that no fanbase bites bait as hard and consistently as them.
Seriously, as a former Deadbeat, the defenses I see in threads like these ring of genuine Deadbeats, not of falseflaggers. For the most part, at least.

>>17932393
This got me, too. That last JK stream (the last stream of hers I watched) where she pissed and moaned about people joking about her being an alcoholic because "her mom is concerned about her" fucking got under my skin so bad. Mori, people joke about it because you mention alcohol in EVERY FUCKING STREAM YOU DO. Once again, as with /vt/ hating on her, THIS SHIT DOESN'T COME OUT OF THIN AIR. YOU CREATE THIS PROBLEM.

And her defense against the claims? She had spent two whole days not drinking. Wow. Never mind that she once proclaimed that she'd quit or cut back and then almost INSTANTLY walked that claim back with thin justifications. Never mind the aforementioned constant mention of alcohol during her streams. Never mind that she has the tolerance of a long-time drunk. No, she doesn't pass out on the floor and beat her wife like her stepdad did, so she's not an alcoholic.

god I regret how long I cared for her

>>17932055
yeah, pretty based

Numbers are the only thing that her fan can lean on to defence themselves.

>>17929347
Can someone sauce this? Never got to see the roommate stream

Beep beep make way for the idol culture crushing bus. Mori, trash taste and vshojo are the harbingers of change that will see all vtuber men and women enjoying each other’s company while you all sit there holding your dicks screaming as your parasocial delusions come crashing down around you.

>>17932444
Well thats just sad, i wanted to give the benefit of the doubt to them since a lot of antis false flag as kfp.

>>17923655
i just feel bad for them. imagine being a deadbeat, ouch.

>>17932670
What's your defense, ESL fag?

>>17932568
>No, she doesn't pass out on the floor and beat her wife like her stepdad did, so she's not an alcoholic
Ehm what? This better be some hypothetical example and not actual doxx. That is not cool "former deadbeat".

>>17932864
It's a rough summation and extrapolation of what she said during that fucking stream, you faggot. She's mentioned her parental issues more than once before. Mori is Doxxbeat Prime. No one talks about her outside-Holo life more than her.

>>17932715
KFP was born in the hate, molded by the hater. They get used to it now.
Pic: Weakest average KFP employee.

>>17932568
Jesus Christ. Now I have to become a pity deadbeat

>>17932568
It's true. I always suspected that she has a high tolerance because she's been drinking so much for so long. I doubt she'll ever cutback.

>>17933017
What stream you faggot? She only talked about being close to an alcoholic, I always assumed, It was her deadbeat dad. She never said anything about her mom being beaten up.

>>17933160
Jump King Finale Part 3

It's totally their fault. Bunch of enablers.
>Mori is cute today xD

>>17933160
Here.
https://youtu.be/iJvbxzGh_a4?t=3643

And you know what, I'll actually kneel, that comment could very well be construed to refer to just a general incapacitation from alcohol as opposed to anything more yabai. I'll walk that one back. The entire defense still pisses me off as she's clearly FULL of shit, but the anger toward it tinted my memories.

>>17932055
BASED AS FUCK

>>17933030
Kfps' were molded by Orc and egg. Their skin fickened during the late months of /jp/ and the early months of /vt/. Youre like a jew in ww2 if you were a fan of Kiara during those months

>>17933262
Where? You better not be talking about 1:00:43 because she doesn't say anything like that. You are either a really scummy doxxfag anti or a genuine schizo.

>>17932055
I'm glad she purged the fanbase of people like you

>>17923712
Based Orca.

>they are making deadbeat threads now
anon-tachi... it's time to cut your losses

>>17923655
Deadbeats are the worst of the Holo En fanbases for sure. I don't know what all of the JP or ID fanbases are like but deadbeats may even be the worst fanbase in all of Hololive.

They're massive enablers of Mori's bad habits like alcohol and drunk tweeting. Some of them were even supportive of her doing lean when that tweet came out. They are the worst simps in Hololive because they would never hold Mori accountable for anything; being unprepared for collabs, lazy stream ideas, dragging other people into drama. At this point most of them are doxxbeats and probably love the idea of her ditching Hololive to go indie or quit vtubing all together. They're anti unity.

They've changed from the deadbeats who got on Mori's case about the Gigguk collab and ushered in the era of Mori 2.0 as a result.

>>17933792
Nah. Chumpedos are still on the top of my list when it comes to horrible fanbases.

>>17933792
>They've changed
No, "they've" given up. "They" being "the Deadbeats who actually gave a shit about Mori being the best streamer she could be." They're gone. And now only the yesmen remain. She can now do whatever she wants and they'll lick her feet for it. God, the fucking courtesy chocolate. What a hateful stab to the heart. And no one even cares.

>>17933507
That's the second time she brought it up. She originally brought it up in the member's stream before this, but I guess you can't watch those.

But maybe if you opened your big ass SEA ears you could here her reference the "real alcoholics" she knows and deflect from the issue.

Enabler fans are 100x worse than the talent. Even veterans like Miko have to make teary eyed apologies when they cross the line and offend someone. MIKO. She has waaaaaay more more clout and built up good will in Hololive than Mori and even she knows when to make an apology. The fans have all the power. Westerners minds poisoned by Twitch culture.

>>17923655
>Is it not their fault.
But it is? They, as in the vast majority of remaining cuckbeats who continue defending and funding her, are enabling all her exploits. If they spoke out (and, most importantly, witheld their money so she'd actually get the message where it hurts), she'd relent and integrate properly into Hololive culture instead of trying to change it (or graduate at least, as the Hololive money dried up and she has no use for it anymore and can finally be free to be the twitchnigger eceleb whore she always wanted, and Hololive is finally free from the cancer she's trying to spread here).

Also, cuckbeats and their consequences have been disastrous for this board.
In the beginning, you'd be laughed and hounded off the board if you promoted any of the issues she's trying to promote.

Twitchnigger ecelebs? Get out with that shit, we're watching Hololive exactly because we're trying to get away from this cancer.
Vshojo? Haha fuck these whores, I don't wanna have anything to do with them (see also the above point)
Idol Culture? Is good and what makes Hololive so unique and worthwhile.

But now, because their pigfaced brap queen is in favor of all this, they have to contort themselves (if they not outright think the same anyway) into cope, deflection and defenses and expose themselvse as mindless yaaas kween yesmen simps with no actual values, beyond "well Mori likes this, and I like Mori, so I guess that means I must like this too..."

Twitchnigger ecelebs? Yes please, I can't wait to eat more of that shit and want it in Hololive too.
Vshojo? Totally fine and cool now, haha peepeepoopoo dicksnvagene shit, I love it!
Idol culture? Ewww that's like totally toxic and problematic, sweetie, I can't even! Touch grass incel, you're not entitled to criticize anything, while she's entitled to do anything and could literally spend your money on condoms for her twitchnigger eceleb friends while you are just allowed to sit there, smile, and take it like the good little cuck you are, you chud.

We used to make fun of such retards as the brainless normie masses out there on YT/Reddit/Twitter, but with Mori normalizing that with her cancer behavior, her fans even her turned into this

>>17923825
I've been watching Hololive since before EN existed.

>>17934137
close the thread gentlemen, nothing more need be said

>>17934021
Did she say her stepfather hit her mother or you took that out of your ass?
I am not SEA. All of them are Mori antis, like yourself.

>>17934137
I'm honestly okay with the existence of Vshoujo. It fills its own niche, and as long as it stays SEPARATE, that's fine. But these niggers are fine with Mori turning Hololive into Vshoujo, and that's where I draw the fucking line. As you said, I watch Hololive because I want to get away from Western cancerous bullshit. And most of the EN talent does a great job of maintaining the facade. But not fucking Mori.

>>17934255
Yo, retard, I already walked that one back. You're not talking to me there. Pay some fucking attention. Goddamn dunce.

>>17932055
Former Deadbeats are the biggest faggots of all. They cry and whine over the tiniest little thing it's a wonder you survived this long at all.

>>17934333
Yeah alright buddy. How's your courtesy chocolate taste?

>>17934137
Based

>>17933792
>>17934137
Why do you retards keep lumping in normalfag fans and their opinions? Every girl has fags like that in their fanbase. Absolutely ZERO Deadbeats from here are into e-celebs or vshojo. We love idol culture. I've been following Hololive for years. I don't agree with the stupid shit she does but I'm not gonna stop watching her over it. The only ones making a big deal out of it are you retards. It's already over anyway. Nothing's changed. Hololive isn't any worse for it. Quit being disingenuous, faggot.

>>17934364
She already said it wouldn't be.

>>17934485
its the falseflagging nijishits, they're into fagmen and anti-idol culture.

>>17934534
Oh, she backpedaled again? Yeah, that's on-brand.

>>17934308
The gall to call me a dunce when you just make up lies.
What a trash person, we don't need people like you among deadbeats. Fucking vile scum.

>>17934485
>Absolutely ZERO Deadbeats from here are into e-celebs or vshojo.
Ah yes, the no true deadbeat fallacy

>>17934551
Yeah, yeah. Keep moving the goalposts.

>>17934485
>Absolutely ZERO Deadbeats from here are into e-celebs or vshojo. We love idol culture.

You must be joking, mate. You can't be serious...right? If you are joking then good job, got a laugh out of me.

>>17934485
>Absolutely ZERO Deadbeats from here are into e-celebs or vshojo
What is this comedy hour? Give it up for the deadbeats making this cesspit as lively as usual. And dont worry, they'll be here all night, folks!

>>17934678
>>17934779
Yes, the proof is me.

>>17934947
BA DUM TSS

>>17932055
All the deadbeats left are discord trannies. Change my mind.

>>17934485
You get lumped in with those normalfag retards because, despite all your posturing about how "you're totally not like them, I swear!", you're actually not doing anything substantial to push back against their (and ultimately, her) cancer, so you're virtually indistinguishable.

You may SAY you "dislike ecelebs/vshojo, and love idol culture" but what are you actually going to do about it? Sit passively by while Mori is actively trying to bring the cancer you claim to hate into Hololive? Still remain her fan and defend her? So what makes you actually different then from the eceleb-loving, idolculture-hating normalfag masses?

Ultimately you have to make a decision. Do you actually love Hololive (that means: no twitch ecelebs, no vshojo, yes idolculture) more than you love Mori? Or do you actually just love Mori more than you love Hololive, which means yes to twitchnigger ecelebs and yes to vshojo in the Hololive universe, and no to idol culture. You can't weasel your way around this, because she WILL bring more of this cancer in and destroy everything you (claim to) love.
And if you're honest with yourself that you are actually more of a fan of Mori than Hololive (my condolences btw, can't understand what you see in that hogbrap, but hey, people out there have all kinds of fucked up fetishes, and cuck humiliation and findom seem to be your thing, so...), then it's better for all sides involved if you just fucked off from this board that doesn't want your shit and the shit you bring, and make Mori fuck off from Hololive too, so she can stop growing her cancer there and is free to be the twitchnigger eceleb whore she really always wanted to be. You can continue throwing money at her for pigfaced irl streams (just think, she can finally play bloodborne like she always wanted, yaaay, that'll be awesome with her totally entertaining streaming style) and her cringe weeb "rap" that you think is so great, meanwhile she can finally hang out with her favorite western streamer friends 24/7 and fuck them openly, without those evil complaining idolfags from /vt/ holding her back, a win for everyone involved

It's sad to see the comments in the roommate clips, all of them glorifying her and asking her to leave hololive and proclaiming 'I hate hololive and idol fans' and that sort of thing

>>17935291
Did you seriously type all that out just for me to tell you she isn't doing those things and this place has warped your view on reality? If you actually watched her streams you would know she actually does enjoy being an idol. She hasn't collabed with any Twitch e-celebs, not sure why this is even brought up. Both TT streams were sponsored. The only vshojo she's ever streamed with is IronMouse, quite possibly the most harmless and most professional of them all. She actually respects Hololive and idol culture. The same can't really be said about Nyanners though who Kiara collabed with but I don't see you bringing that up.

I haven't been following what's going on beyond the TL;DR, but reading this post gave me an absolute chuckle >>17935291

>>17935634
How do you explain her being more natural and having fun and chatting with enthusiasm in collab outside of hololive. Even be more prepared than with her own genmates

>>17935627
What if I told you I have solid proof that most of those comments are made by Discord raiders that hate her and are using her to bring down Hololive by making them turn against their own?

>>17935627
Good. Those fucktard yes man deadbeats are finally using their brains for once to tell their wigger oshi to finally fuck off from hololive forever and finally fulfill the prophecy

>>17935291
We already know that Mori antis are mentally ill, deadbeat. You didn't need to put in this much effort, but thanks for the laugh anyways

>>17935698
I've seen her act that way in plenty of Hololive collabs though. Literally just yesterday in her collab with Reine for example. You're talking about a single stream that happened months ago from which she already apologized for. But I guess dredging up month old shit is all you people can do since you're obviously not real Hololive fans.

>>17935697
show us

>>17935634
>Ironmouse
Oh, you mean Connor's sidekick? She proved she's just as much of a harpy as the rest of vshoujo during the Nux fiasco.

I have never seen a more pathetic bunch of yes men and white knights in my life.
She clearly hates any fan that doesn't agree with everything she does while simultaneously hating the goslings.
But even ignoring all of this, she clearly has a serious substance abuse problem, day drinking like that isn't normal. Yet all these fags just go " Yas queen slay".
I could write a wall of text about other retarded behavior they're cheering for but it's all listed in the thread and the day drinking is the most egregious.

>>17934534
Only cause Lui called her on it.

>>17935877
She is trying hard to improve her image in these last streams it's an act

>>17935697
Post it

>>17935634
>She actually respects Hololive and idol culture.
You must be joking!

>>17935968
>>17936050
She was already inclining for months and everyone was praising her for it. Calling it Mori 2.0. This is anything but a recent thing and you thinking she's "trying too hard" is just your brain being poisoned by this place. Don't you think it's a little strange that she was doing so well and suddenly everyone hates her? She's always been known to do shit like that. It wasn't anything out of the ordinary. I dunno, smells like a Niji psyop to me.
>>17936157
Yeah she's taking all those dance lessons to show up on stage at an idol festival because she totally hates idols, right?

I knew the writing was on the wall long before the recent fiasco, when debut Mori went from crying about how "awww you guiz, I don't deserve all your superchats uwu" to an accustomed entitled bitch "sup dawgs, I'd prefer if you don't send any text with your aka, so ya boi can get through all that annoying reading bullshit faster. Big ups, keep the money coming my dudes!" in the span of mere months. Shows how she views her "fans" - I don't even make the superficial distinction between "she only hates those who disagree with her!" vs "but she totally loves those who agree with her!" anymore. She doesn't actually "love" any of them, they're all just walking ATMs for her, if the double-dipping on opening more roommate merch didn't clue you in already.

>>17935634
Kiara is a idolfag at heart. She even asking for her fans permission to collab with male(Yagoo, lmao). I have faith in the KFP's boss.

>>17936254
>everyone was praising her for it
Hard X on "everyone", that praise was always just coming from cuckbraps only, eager to astroturf rehabilitation and polish up their brapper's image after it had been thouroughly in the shitter for everyone else by her actions.
What should every other fanbase even have to "praise" her about?
"Wow Mori, you're now finally doing the bare minimum in collabs, that all our other girls have already managed, and not drag down collabs ~too much~ anymore, just only an acceptable amount. And it only took you mere months to manage this amazing feat. Clap clap, everything is forgiven, do you want a cookie with that?"

>>17935697
Spoiler: you an't having no proof, my nigga

>>17936597
The fact is that no one was shitting on her at the time.

>>17923655
Absolutely not. Enablers get ejected with their dusted blown out twitch thot of an oshi

>>17936637
Because it seemed like she changed and left her bad influences behind. And then she proved that's not the case. Seeing her go a second time on TT and after that having a fucking meltdown over fucking Connor was extraordinarily disappointing.

>>17936518
Also Kiara, for all her faults, kept Vshojo as a one-time thing and didn't bring it up much afterwards anymore, it certainly didn't lead to any deeper association like it does with Mori.

But don't fall for and engage with this transparent cuckbrap deflection tactic anyway, and call it out wherever you see them trying to divert attention from their brapper pig's cancer by going "b-but what about X?! (p-please talk about everything else but my oshi's failings!)"

>>17936786
The latest thing was Mori getting Bae and IRyS to agree to a collab and then shoehorned Ironmouse in the collab after they accepted.

>>17929127
Yeah her roomate streaming again and talking about contracts totally means nothing

>>17936786
>B-but look at Kiara she's better!
>When someone else does it, it's deflecting
Anon, you shot yourself in the foot in the same post you call out a stupid deflection tactic. How did you even manage that?

>>17937013
t. Didn't watch the stream.

>>17937128
>p-please talk about everything else but my oshi's failings!

>>17936786
Getting defensive now, are we? Resorting to name calling? Citing examples is now deflecting? I wasn't even insulting Kiara. It's getting pathetic when all you can reply with "C-Cuckbrap deflecting"

https://youtube.com/watch?t=3730&v=tdgvup0Nnv0

>>17937234
Not my oshi, you're just as bad as them.

>>17936637
Not gonna lie even here /vt/ started to warm up on her, Mori 2.0, but noooooooooo, she just has to defence Connor, and then this:

>>17937234
>m-maybe if I repeat myself it'll make it true!

>>17932670
>>17937446
Look you fucking SEAnigger, you make the rest of us look bad when you fuck up English this badly and consistently. THE VERB. IS. DEFEND.

>>17937495
>implying that's the worst part of his post
Join him in the gulag faggot.

>>17937532
Except it is, because he's right about everything else.

>>17937446
Anon, /vt/ has always been a bunch of shitposters and dramafags outside of general. It's not about if they're warming up to her or not, people just dogpile any sort of controversy for (You)'s until its been milked dry. It happened with Kiara, it'll happen with Mori too at some point.

>>17937546

>>17929370
Really? I heard they were doing it for free

>>17929370
>Muh Discord boogeyman

>>17928127
not yung skelly lmaooo

>>17929127
imagine having an oshi thats worse at dealing with internet troll drama than the pink cat
couldn't be me thats for sure

>>17926747
>MY MUSIC TASTE IS SHIT
Screaming nigger at cutlery again, cuckbeatles?

>>17929370
She already mentioned 10% a long time ago you stupid brainless brat. I swear you're gonna die choking on this bone.

>>17939872
Live stream rape correction when ?

>>17923712
based whore!

>>17937186
Correct, I do not watch mori. You can easily find multiple clips about her talking about her contract in it though.

>>17926747
BASED

>>17940338
>I do not watch mori
>he thinks that's something to be proud of

>>17923825
>>17923932
Please make your SEA/west taiwan babble less obvious.

>>17936254
>>17936597
Why are we still acting like Mori 2.0 is so drastically different from before? She just does longer streams and is better with tech preparation. That's it. Her personality and overall content is largely the same.

>>17940425
Please don't shitpost with my wife

Obligatory reminder that this pissing and moaning about Mori hardly exists anywhere outside this website. Kek.

>>17941218
Whatever helps you sleep at night, anon...

Judge not lest ye be judged

>>17941218
>kek period

>>17941218
You realize if this is true you're burning your shit oshi? It would mean she went out of her way to visit this place and made 3 songs about it before whining about it on her roommate account. Still means we win because shitposting takes 5 seconds.

>>17940885
That is a huge improvement anon....to Mori standard that is.

Don't care one way or the other.
I only want all the TTroons gone.

>>17923655
No, it's funny.

>>17937612
Mori and Kiara are both have really valid criticism

>>17944880
>Kiara
No. I will never believe this shit.

>>17923655
I realized that I actually dislike deadbeats even more than I dislike Mori

>>17923655
No.

>>17941150
please don't pretend to like my wife.

>>17944951
wait do you think kiara has no problems?

>>17945320
Not any more than other Holos at this point. She had some problems at the beginning of her career but she solved them.

>>17943899
Mori brings them in and wants even more association between Hololive and TT / the wider twitch cancer sphere.
So, trying to be a detached just-ignore-don't-carer here is not an option, because if you don't, you WILL get more TTroons with Mori

>>17945316
I refuse to believe that selen has any overlap with mori

>>17940425
>he thinks that's something to be proud of
Yes, yes it is.

>>17945462
>>17945479
stop acting like niggers

>>17944880
Kiara was never bad, we are reminded everyday how based she is and has always been. Just today we are reminded about how much she cares about small artists and give back to the community.
https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1490792167190802433

>>17945320
KFP is and has always been aware of her lack of streaming experience and scuff, but thought that her personality was worth it. But /vt/ wanted Kiara’s blood because they thought that she was bad as a person (slut, SJW, doom for hololive and vtubing, liar, etc.). That has never been the case, ever. Now with better equipment and more streaming experience, you can’t even criticize her for that.

>>17945530
>Kiara was never bad, we are reminded everyday how based she is and has always been
this isn't even bait at this point

>>17942852
Not only that, she went live on her roommate account with facecam.

>>17945656
It's not that uncommon for Holos to do that, but the way she did rubbed me the wrong way for some reason. Maybe it's because she did it to complain about Hololive.

i have friends that i can't bring in to work because it would be inappropriate. so does she. she brings them in anyway.

>>17945516
congrats I'm actually seething for the first time in a long time

>>17940425
i wish that artist never drew this despite me liking all the footjob stuff

>>17923655
retarded enablers are just as bad as their whore oshi

>>17945516
Make me

>>17945462
I don't want Nijis but I almost got into Selen and she'd probably be the one I'd watch if I did. Don't know what makes you think that.

>>17946028
I don't get how Selen is so popular. I tried watching her a few times and I found her extremely annoying.

>>17945462
They're both actually entertaining streamers, for one.

>>17923655
This isn’t even what her fanbase looks like..

>>17946073
>Mori
>entertaining

>>17934137
Thread should have ended here, mori needs to graduate and cuckbeats need to kill themselves.

>>17946161
If this whole arc has proved anything, it's that everything she does is entertaining.

>>17946188
Relax, Deadbeat. Thread's over.

>>17923655
Welyn?

>>17945462
both keep a distance from their fans
both don't feel like they can do GFE (cursed asmr instead of the real thing)
both interact with men

>>17923712
Based

>>17932055
Basado

>>17934333
Imagine being this cuck

>>17935634
the only reason she didnt yet is because management blocks it, she was even setting up a twitch account to "stream gerrilas", and the jump king tournament dream scenario for her would have vshojo and TT scammers, and stars and holo jp (LOL retarded)

>>17934534
>>17934333
The copium is strong with this one

>>17935634
>she actually does enjoy being an idol.
rorumao. She doesn't know shit about being an idol, and she detests what she thinks she knows about idol culture. But sure, she's an idol. So she would surely have nothing against it if she was then being held to actual idol standards, and certainly wouldn't throw bitch fits about it, right?
>She hasn't collabed with any Twitch e-celebs, not sure why this is even brought up.
It gets brought up, because SHE can't stop bringing it up, talking about twitchnigger ecelebs and her TTbuddies on stream.
>She actually respects Hololive and idol culture.
I don't even know what's more pathetic, that you actually believe this bullshit you write, or that you think everyone else is just as stupid as you to fall for it. But sure, she respects Hololive and idol culture so much, which is why she defends her TTbuddies so much instead of Hololive, which is why she likes a week old twitter post of her cucking her fans with a TTfag, very idol like behavior, then goes crying drunk on reddit about how she "j-just wants to have f-fuuun, maaaaan..." and later has to backpedal, those are certainly the actions of someone who is very happy in Hololive and loves it very much. Oh and to cap it all off, just after all these escapades comes a roommate irl stream in which she, besides shilling her own merch to make more money behind the companys back, she vents about her main job and its fans. But sure, she looooves Hololive and idol culture.

As for your last point, of course it couldn't be a cuckbrap defense post without some of the usual deflection, to complete this public embarrassment again.

>>17947830
>It gets brought up, because SHE can't stop bringing it up, talking about twitchnigger ecelebs and her TTbuddies on stream.
Her chat's the one that brings it up and simply answers them. Also I was referring to IronMouse respecting Hololive. You're wasting your energy getting angry over nothing. There's dozens of evidence that shows Mori enjoys Hololive but you conveniently ignore it because you only know about what's been told to you instead of actually watching streams and knowing what's even going on. You obviously don't even watch Hololive. It's so easy to out you niggers. How's it feel knowing everyone's already moving on and Cover hasn't given a single shit about any of it? The only one being publicly embarrassed is you for continously throwing such a faggoty little tantrum over it weeks after it's happened..

>>17947830
>she has an episode during her job
>this means she always hated her job

Go outside, faggot