/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Timestamp?

>>17902896
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2UCFML9HjY

Which one?

>>17902865
She's just trying to help her little sister get laid.
The Winning Son just keeps winning.

>>17902896
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzD17H90cgA

>>17902865
shes not satisfied by cucking the deadbeats, wants everyone to get it too

>>17902865
Nah, that's fine. The annoying part is trying to make a podcast out of fucking everything. Calli has been obsessed with using it for passive engagement lately, it's shitty, ineffective and doesn't work.
People familiar with each other can just hang out and talk on a podcast, that's fine, but with strangers it would be awkward. Now try strangers with a language barrier. Now Factor in that the country of origin has the shyest population.
No JP members regularly visiting her Jump King stream should have been a big sign that there needs to be more construction or middle ground to make these things work for all parties.

Stop dragging my son into your shitty yab situations you filthy whores. At this point I'd support banning star/live collabs again, with a handful of exceptions, to get these dumbasses to fuck off.

>>17903357
yeah, i hope her jump king tournament flops too, who is going to attend? bae, mori, mumei will be forced to go and will just troll again, iroha and koyori cant say no but may still not go because of the possibility of having stars there, okayu and botan could do a pity participation but most likely decline too, will have to get her clique and beg management for connor/ironmouse to come whos never gonna happen.

>>17903588
How the fuck she thought it was a good idea to make a tournament of this game anyway? That shit is as interesting as watching paint dry.

>>17903357
>People familiar with each other can just hang out and talk on a podcast, that's fine, but with strangers it would be awkward. Now try strangers with a language barrier. Now Factor in that the country of origin has the shyest population.
Have you ever listened to any podcasts? It's never awkward with a good host

>>17903555
Bae and Roberu are going to have sex, and your going to like it!

i'm glad Mori is breaking the glass ceiling and destroying the idol culture, we're going to have the good part of vtubing without the bad part

>>17903588
>mori [...] will be forced to go and will just troll again
Whose tournament are we talking about?

>>17902865
>>17903036
So, nothing then.
Come on, I thought it was going to be a real thing. Dissapointed

>>17903788
That's the point.
You think Mori is even remotely an adecuate host?

Could Mori keep up with Roberu's japanese? This feels more like she wants to collab with him, but needs a translator to back her up.

>>17903972
No she just wants to make Bae feel awkward like she was on Ollie's Apex stream.

>>17903588
>jump ki g tournament
What, is that real?
A tournament organized by her, for a game only she cares about and only she's good at?
I hope it's a dissaster and teaches her the lesson that she will never be Kiara and she'll live under her shadow for her sins.

>>17903882
She'll have to scott pilgrim vs the world animare first.

>>17903588
I mean, can't you just compare best times? Also, Mori is going to demolish them, there will be no competition.

>>17902865
Mori wants revenge by spreading the cuckening… she’s finally lost it guys. We’ve won

>>17904085
This. It's the first time I've heard about this but if it's true it sounds like a terrible idea.

>>17903588
Jump King is unironically boring I don’t understand how people like watching that poo poo game. Play something else better like Apex bruv

>>17903588
>playing a boring single player game that even Mori uses it as background material for VC collabs competitively
yeah this is gonna go well

>>17904151

>>17904085
She would be better off trying to get permissions for the JoJo fighting game and getting people on board with that. Everyone is on a relatively similar skill level, there's universal appeal and as a bonus she can talk about her recent obsession and hook other people onto it.

Jump King isn't uninteresting, it's just been way overdone and stopping Calli from trying to find new stuff. It's had the inadvertent effect of making me avoid anybody else play it too, where I was catching all the JP members before she ruined it.

>>17902865

>>17904792
Which Holo would main pet shop?

Good. Fuck idol culture

>>17903955
read again, mumei will be forced to go, bae and mori are a given

>>17902865
ffs why are you guys bashing her so much? this bitch is HORNY and wants a good dicking but you guys shame her for that, maybe help her instead?

>>17904944
FBK or Polka.

>>17904888
>Heh. I remember my first Mori stream

>>17905016
I'm not her bestie or her mom. I don't want to hear about which chuuba or eceleb she wants to fuck. Just stream dammit.

>>17904792
>The Kino Jojo fighting game
Im bettin Mori's main will be Avdol. Screencap this

>>17904785
That's pretty good. You make that? Post it in stars later, they might want it for reaction purposes.

>>17904944
obviously sana because shes got no morals

>>17903588
Iroha has a pretty high chance since she seems to adore Mori desu, afaik she's the reason Iroha even played the first DLC

>>17903588
No Shien? He would mog everyone.

>>17905016
and why does it need to be public? if she wants she gets it, no drama needed, why is it so hard for yesman to understand shes going about it in the total wrong way?

>>17903588
She's trying her best you guys.
It's not easy being a Lean Fiend.

>>17903072
If everyone’s viewers are cucked no one will be

>>17902865
Bae is trying to get everyone to forget about how much she wants Roberu's dick so she may go get it without causing an uphoar. Good thing that the Rrat isn't a GFE chuuba.

>>17904085
Next up, Suisei holds a tetris99 tournament.

>>17904952
oh hello there fellow cuckbeat

>>17902865
Fuck even her JP senpais seem annoyed with her
https://mobile.twitter.com/tokoyamitowa/status/1326355021093498880

>>17905368
Man at least there's a couple holos that could probably keep up with Mori in JK, isn't the only other holo who can keep up with Comet chammers?

>>17905310
Their hookup stories would just be tragic
>We paid out for a high quality love hotel
>2 minutes after putting it in he pulls out
>He looks at me dead in the eyes and says "I need to go toilet"

>>17902911
Why are they writing titles like that?

>>17905481
Holy fuck. Is she allowed to post this?

>>17905538
Bae and Roberu would be a couple i'd unironically support.

>>17905481
Have you seen mori's reply to her?
fucking retarded junkie
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1488800654017576960

>>17905498
not even that, Suisei wins against Haachama by landslide but Haachama is a masochist and keeps playing with her

>>17905542
clickbait clipper sexualizing everything pls andastando

>>17905538
kek

>>17903672
Genuine autism.

>>17902911
>those youtube comments
There's like two sensible people there.

>>17902865
mori is legitimately a dumb whore, the girls need to tell her to chill with this shit

>>17904792
JK is actually boring af to watch, what made it interesting was different girls popping in from myth and council and just casually chatting with each other, but despite that when it was just it was average af and not something I'd watch cos I'm not really into her at all. Now in her alcohol riddled brain she thinks she's gunna make all these crazy collabs and everyone's gunna love it and she'll be some sort of hololive podcast master, when in reality no one will wanna go near that with a 10ft bargepole, she's fucking delusional and peer pressuring girls like bae into her shitty plans because bae struggles to say no, which is sly af. I really hope the other girls tell her to fuck off.

>>17903588
As much as it is fun to watch train wrecks. I hope it goes well simply because collateral damage isn't fun.

>>17906634
You sound like the delusional one to me anon.

>>17905088
how fucking virgin you are KEK I meant that you should fuck her
>>17905245
she's so horny she can't control herself, she wants big cocks NOW

>>17905635
>https://mobile.twitter.com/tokoyamitowa/status/1326355021093498880
i wont lie you actaully got me with this anon

I want to make love to rrat.

>>17907071
I don't know her. None of us are ever going to fuck our oshis.

>>17906041
fuck you

>>17905542
that way it avoids Susan (that's why I report them for sexual content when it applies)

>>17902865
ey yo gimme that russy

>>17904952
your vshojo whores are live go watch the streams retard

as long as the guys in question are chuubas and don't shittalk hololive, who fucking cares.

>>17907347
I don't mind Holostars, but you can tell that Mori is pushing this to deflect.

>>17908674
>deflect
More like to use the guys as a stepping stone. "Look! You let me do collabs with the stars and they're guys! Now let me do collabs with connor and trash taste and vshojo and..."
Connor's getting a vtuber avatar soon, do you really not see what Mori's going to do once he does?

>>17908827
Yeah shedding the idol culture fan base like the garbage they are.

>>17903588
>Invite JP and stars
Did this retard really?

>>17908905
shitty westerners not understanding a bit of an aspect of a foreign culture and tries to "shred" it

>>17908905
>leaked documents show NA is only 9% of Covers income
>The "Other" category is at 13%
>Mori, one of the biggest NA earners continues to shit the bed, bite the hand, shit on fans, etc
>Twitter warriors show up, say idol culture bad, leave, never donate
>Paying fans continue to leave en masse
No wonder you people are such abject failures. Stay away from jp, you wallow in your own miseries like dogs in vomit.

>>17908905
>Shed the paypigs
>Get left with gray niggers, clippers and leaches
Sounds like a really good business plan to me.

>>17909205
>>17909212
>>17909270
Oh let’s not ruin the perfect Jp culture of every one of these girls needing to protect every aspect of their real life identity so they don’t have to live in fear of their lives.

>>17909212
I mean they don't give much options. Options are, shitty merch that wont show up for a year and cost doubled because of shipping and memberships and SC

>>17909205
>>17909212
>>17909270
How does Nijisanji get away with it?

>>17902865
Mori peaked in October during the horror movie watchalong arc. Maybe I’ll watch her again this October

>>17909413
Are you a fucking retard? If you are famous to some extend, there are always nut cases out to get you. Twitch streamers get their fair share of harassment and tries to hide their personal info as well.

You are just a retarded fucking westerners who don't know shit about a country and tries to force your views onto them.

>>17909413
> fear for their lives
so we killing people now, cuckbeat, relax, you can do your fetish cuckhold fantasies as much as you want away from here, get mori to vshojo or something;

>>17909413
>real life identity
Can you just admit that you just want to ruin something for others? There are countless alternatives that cater to exactly what you want on Twitch and Youtube. The only reason you want hololive to change is because it doesn't confirm with what you like.

>>17908827
>>17908905
He loves to not only shit on weebs and incels as he calls them but also needs to force himself into the very idol culture he antagonizes and loathes so much to "dunk on the haters". If, for example, someone spent all the time making fun of furries on the internet and then one day decides to buy a 300 dollar fur suit and go to a furrycon to mock and shame them in public he'd be ostracized, get his ass kicked and get thrown off the backdoor, like what do you expect is gonna happen, respect for others is the most fundamental element in any community? Yet he absolutely loves getting the well deserved hate he gets and he knows this, he just craves the attention to a self-destructive point so long as he's getting the spotlight (very much like a flamboyant homo).

>>17903588
>jump king tournament
Why...

>>17909413
JPs have the right idea; even outside of Vtubing, a lot of public figures keep their identities private if possible. Look at the ridiculous number of authors who're only known by their pseudonym and never show their face

>>17905310
>Good thing that the Rrat isn't a GFE chuuba.
Her kimono reveal was a very elaborate dating sim win flag...

>>17909212
>public data are leaks now
Why are you like this?

>>17909866
To get the idols and the stars to mingle.

>>17910043
They could mingle over something fun, not a fucking rat race to finish a game some of them don't even like and doesn't have any mechanics they can use to interact with in.

>>17909652
Can’t you just admit that idol culture is garbage and the entire anonymity of vtubing is driven not from the building some illusion of a character but rather to protect them from their terrible fanbase the Japanese have been subjecting actual idols to for decades?

Look at what happens when just one of them gives these garbage humans the middle finger.

>>17909866
>>17910043
>>17910153
You all need to understand, this isn't some spiteful thing. Mori is legitimately, unironically fucking autistic. She finds one thing and latches onto it like a bulldog and then spends all of her time shoving into people's faces like a third-grader who just drew a self-insert Sonic OC, absolutely zero self-awareness. She got hooked on JK and now she wants EVERYONE to play it.

She's not evil. She's just autistic, and also really unintelligent.

>>17903672
She doesn't care what's interesting or entertaining for others. She just wants to do what she wants. She ropes in others to validate herself.

>>17910359
She's one step away from low-functioning territory.

>>17905192
suprise only the ones who adore mori go

>>17909413
Most JP's don't feel the need to aggrandize their own personal fame through their vtuber fame and try to separate themselves from the characters they portray to protect their privacy like any other reasonable person.

>>17910043
not even that, she just want to flex the only game shes good at, the rules she proposing are also RIDICULOUS.
> 3 days,
> 1st original game, others DLC,
> allow reclears to improve times.

doesnt her autistic cunt realize its only her whos doing anything past original game, at best should be 1 hour tourno and rank people on who gets further (for the bads) and who can speed clear it faster (probably just her, iroha and the stars)

>>17910359
Meanwhile all the JPs are just playing Ark or Apex all day long. No problems there though right?

>>17902911
Why does she sound like that? Is she zonked out on lean or something? Or has she had 100 pints of larger?

>>17910432
>implying she has any organizational skills whatsoever
From the same stupid cunt who ignored fans telling her that Cuphead with Gura wouldn't work? From the same stupid cunt who continued to do absolutely zero set-up or 10 minutes of pre-stream testing, leading to easily avoidable "lol le EN curse" scuff?
From the same stupid cunt who somehow missed the expiration of Pokemon permissions being BEFORE her tournament, forcing everyone to reschedule quickly and lose out on team prep time?
Mori is an idiot. She is genuinely of below-average IQ, and this issue is only aggravated by her drinking problems.

>>17910480
>all the JPs
>all of them
So... no, there is no problem. Because it's not one fucking autist forcing it. It's a trend.

>another pink woman bad thread
Fantastic. Superb. Entirely original.
Btw I saw Mori outside punting a puppy into a nearby orphan.

>>17910359
>>17910394
>You damn stinking trolls have crossed me for the last time. Cuuuuuurrrrseeee.... yeeeeeee.....haaaaaaaa.....meeeeeeee...HAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

So Mori aka ya boi is honestly envious of niji's co-ed environment, because she's the sort of woman that feels more comfortable around men, but instead of realizing she should leave and find a more suitable place, she decides to make hololive into that place.
I hate her, and hope she gets caught with drugs, deported, and unpersoned out of hololive.

>>17910678

>>17910678
>>17910394
What do you guys bet she was one of those kids who'd growl at you if she didn't like you?

>>17910715
What infuriates me is that if she did the slightest bit of research into Hololive before applying, she would have figured out "oh hey, this probably isn't the best fit for me" and left her spot for someone who would have been better. But no. No research. No preparation. Just jump into everything headfirst and if it doesn't work out, just get more stubborn! That's the Mori Way!

>>17910306
>Garbage humans
You mean yourself right cuckbeat? She was talking about her fans. Not about idol culture as whole.

I hope your oshi and Mori collab and have a good time without incident.

>>17910760
she was one of the barking tumblr kids yes

>>17910675
Mori isn't kind enough to give orphans a puppy.

>>17910306
>>17910809
Complementary valentine's chocolates for deadcucks status: Denied

>>17910715
Based and same

>>17909497
>>17910715
My rrat on how niji got away and ever had success with their gays were attitude, the fact that they could all act with attitude toward each other created natural boundaries and aided in creating good chemistry.
Mori would not understand that attitude does not mean shitting on her own fans though

>>17910715
>>17910772
Get over it. You can even take Foddy with you, kind of like when Holos raced each other in that game...but this time the very idea of a contest is a scandal because pink woman is organizing.
Maybe it's time (You) both graduated from watching this stuff if you're only looking for reasons to get upset.

>>17910772
I think the person with the rawest deal out of everyone here is Milky. Imagine linking some job audition to a "friend", having them apply as a joke, actually get it, take a spot that very well could have been yours, then they do a single stream with you before never doing another, all while defending an anituber to the death. THEN imagine watching all of this unfold, watching them shit all over the company you wanted to join, watching her drag her co-workers into these situations that slowly embitter this job you wanted even to them. Imagine waking up every night in a cold sweat, heart hammering out of your chest as you realise it was YOU that brought this woman into this company, and subjected that poor manager and those poor girls to work with her. To be subjected to her lean fueled rambling long into the deadened night, badly rapping at you over her mic, like some kind of downs syndrome eminem.
Imagine screaming when no one will ever hear you.

>>17911227
>all while defending an anituber to the death
There's no reason to think this would bother her; considering Conor has collabed with her more and given her far more clout than Mori has

>>17911187
shes organizing it only thinking of herself, all rules are only good for her, LOL

>>17902865
both bae and calli are a netorare experience get with the times unicorn

not every chuuba is gfe

>>17904085
its not an actual tournament, there's just gonna be a couple of days where anyone whos interested can stream it on their own and compete for best times within that window. no forced collab or interaction or anything.

>>17911336
It's a game she likes and feels competent at. It's for fun to see how others in the group compare. Maybe there will even be an upset.
Or was Mori supposed to complain when entering things like the MK tournament? Where her only goal was "don't finish last" but she was still happy to participate.
Or the Pokemon tournament where Sana was very likely to be the winner from the outset. Did anyone complain then? No.

>>17902911
Mental meltdowns of /vt/ aside, it's really shitty how certain co-workers of Bae keep teasing her about her oshi for a quick laugh, especially given their relationships to antitubers. It's bad enough when dumb viewers do it, but those girls should just fuck off already. Handle your own yabs and don't try to drag your co-workers down with you.

>>17911563
At least when the JP girl tease Noel about her love for the duck everyone involved gets a laugh about it, when Mori ambush Bae it just seems awkward and only Mori get any real enjoyment out of it.

>>17911504
>Or the Pokemon tournament where Sana was very likely to be the winner from the outset. Did anyone complain then? No.
Yes they did faggot.

>>17911659
The Holos? Or retarded dramafags here?

>>17911504
The MK tournament was very well organized and the game itself allows for upsets and comebacks
The pokemon tournament was a shitshow from the start and no one took it serious, compare it to the JP pokemon tournament and it's night and day

>>17911504
>Maybe there will even be an upset
Seeing how weird Mori has been about similar things in the past, I'm beginning to wonder if she'd be salty if she got beat at her darling game.

>>17911486
just the tip i promise

>>17910306
>entire anonymity of vtubing is driven not from the building some illusion of a character but rather to protect them from their terrible fanbase
most of the JPs are known, and Mori’s roommate streams anyway.
>Look at what happens when just one of them gives these garbage humans the middle finger
Mori’s own fans called her out it. No one Are you not a fan of Mori? And no one is coming to kill her man, take your fucking meds. I’m really not sure what point your trying to make exactly. Is it you just want a culture to change to align with what suits you personality rather than finding a hobby you don’t find the surrounding culture to be abhorrent? How did you even get invested in vtubers in the first place. This is like being a fan of gangster rap but hating the culture around it and petitioning for it to become pro feminism, drug free, violence free christian music.

>>17911730
Its the only way it could be entertaining, but the rules with retires and large time frame actively reduce any chance of upsets

>>17911770
>This is like being a fan of gangster rap but hating the culture
Moririn...

>>17911675
To be fair, the girls actively try not to do things like that because it looks bad on them and their coworkers. Even if they did have complaints they'd never air them publicly unless they want to get in trouble.

>>17911730
>>17911730
Its the only way it could be entertaining, but the rules with retries and large time frame actively reduce any chance of an upset.
Whats the point of the drama of falling if you can just do another run no sweet

>>17904637
it's mostly used as a zatsudon but yeah completely shit game.

>>17911652
And this was after the Zombrat got the exact same reaction from her about this. Just leave her be.

>>17911652
did this faggot just compare bae/roberu to noel/subaru ?
Bae already explained it, she dont want trouble for Roberu, if these interactions go bad for anyone its him.

like it or not, female ships are just jokes and still cause trouble, like taka/mori, noel/flare, imagine if bae chat goes to roberu and start calling him cheater if he joke around with other tubas, yeah its not a big probability but if she leans into this stuff it can happen.

>>17911730
> Seeing how weird Mori has been about similar things in the past

You got an example?

>>17902865
why does she have to drag others to her bullshit

>>17911675
>people shouldn't complain about Mori doing something shitty here because Holos didn't complain about a shit tournament on stream
Deadcuck please.

>>17902865
Someone needs to update that image of the blacked guys.

>>17911187
getting over it is a million times better game than jump king and the girls would just do little 1v1 races for a while which make a hell of a lot sense than trying to organize a tournament.

That's also them just 1 on 1 deciding to do a race behind the scenes while calli announces she's going to "hold a tournament" which now places pressure on every other person that has played JK at all.

>>17911868
I never watched it because the concept itself filtered me pretty easily. Is it a fixed map kind of thing or is it procedurally generated?

>>17911916
Brah, I dont disagree with you, but the point is not that bae/roberu is the same as noel/subaru but rather how different they are handled as on stream jokes

>>17912015
I remember the homostars did a Getting over tournament but it was a joke tournament with a punishment for the loser and it was a random stream that wasn't a big deal, the problem with Mori's tournament is how much she's hyping a shit game up

>>17911716
>>17911834
They still had fun. Which was the whole point of them all doing it. To banter, play together, show off their teams. Give the fans a show.

>>17911730
She would probably be impressed and then go back to trying to improve her own record. Which I'm not sure I want to see on stream at this point, but if she wants to do it on her own time then fine.

>>17911948
>organizing something with other Holos is something shitty
Lol I hope you dream of Mori tonight and wakeup angry.

>>17912033
It's fixed. Like Getting Over It but somehow more bland and punishing.

>>17911563
>>17911652
Anons if she really cared that much she could just mention it to the mon a discord conversation. Our Rat is old enough to take care of herself.

>>17903588
This is the worst idea I've ever heard
I'd rather them all stream ARK as a family than endure that punishing boring dogshit

>>17911928
Something about a punishment game in puyo puyo tetris she got real salty about. She refused to do it and the mood took a bit of a weird turn after that. That and she strikes me as the type to not care about a lot of games, but get weirdly attached and "possessive" about one or two every once in a while. Pretty sure she's done other weird shit in the past like the tetris thing, but those are only vague memories, so I very well may be wrong.

>>17912120
What the fuck? How much has she played the thing? Hasn't she done a fuck ton of streams of it? It's all I hear about her playing. Has she just played the same map again and again? Is she mental?

>>17911928
shadowverse saga, lost to kiara 6-0 and was so mad she count even speak in the stream, then she trained hard fo a rematch and lost again, getting even more mad.

>>17912273
that's speed running

>>17912033
Map is the same. It all becomes about muscle memory. It's not that great of a game but like the other Anon said, it works for giving a background for a zatsu. It's also about learning from your own mistakes, so it feels good when you progress and eventually get to the top. Which took some of them a long time, Aqua went for like 12 hours, got sick, and then went for more.
The DLCs become some real bullshit though.

>>17912273
She monetized her suffering and in the process got invested into the game

>>17912273
I guess. I don't watch her streams. But if she's as competent in Jump King as Fauna is in Getting Over It then I only see this going one way. Mori will blast past everyone, possibly clearing the game several times, while everyone else is stuck in the first couple areas for 3 fucking days. It'll be a shitshow.

>>17912292
That game was one of the big points of Mori realizing "I'm doing this wrong and need to learn to get better" and she did. Playing the game and listening to advice to get ready for the tournament she and Kiara were part of. Then she lost to Kiara topdecking. Which was a funny end to the whole thing.

>>17912107
>They still had fun. Which was the whole point of them all doing it. To banter, play together, show off their teams. Give the fans a show.
I hope you aren't implying that a well-made tournament where everyone is tryharding isn't just as fun, the JP tournament was basically this and it was way better when you couldn't predict who was gonna win the whole tournamnent unlike EN's shitshow where Sana was the winner in everyone's eyes and it was so obvious that she started trolling too

>>17912107
the idea of the tournament isnt terrible but she should make the rules fairer for people not as good as her so more people can join and isnt a bit commitment, if it was instead like 1~2 hours, with 2 throphies, 1 for fastest speed clear and 1 for the noobs who didnt clear so they at least have something to fight for and not start the thing already defeated.

>>17911939
She wants to push management to kick her out so she can stir up drama for TT, but not before dragging as many people down with her as she can manage. The grim reaper of hololive EN is going to slay the company itself. Very meta.

>>17912405
shes top 500 world rank, 7 minutes clear.

>>17902911
holy shit I just realized that I HATE how Calli talks

>>17912575
that's because it's incredibly annoying

>>17902865
Mori sounds like a creepy druggie trying to lure someone in

>>17912575
eh, it's fine if she's talking when she does something she likes.
For example, when she appears in Trash Taste, or when she talks about Ironmouse or Connor.

>>17912613
She woke up 30 seconds before joining Bae.

>>17912575
I think she talks differently depending on the situation, and every one is more annoying than the last. When she talks to others in collabs for instance she's infamous for sounding like she's talking to special ed kids. The Terraria collab was just that throughout the whole thing.

>>17912567
Fucking hell. And she thinks it will somehow be fair and fun for the others?

>>17912707
No, she's just an arrogant cunt who wants to show off her one thing.

>>17912652
she was probably high, that's why.
in her roommate stream she sounded good.

>>17912433
>learn to get better
every time she says that is a lie, its her default phrase for "ill write MAD lyrics about seething and having to apologize"

>>17912719
Well yeah. It was a rhetorical question.

>>17912631
She purposefully only drinks and becomes an insufferable dumbass when she's collabing with other vtubers. Mad disrespect trying to ruin someone else's stream to "dab on the haters and corporate".

Mori is a huge cunt. More at 11

>>17903972
he could speak simpler Japanese but dialect would still be a problem

>>17912727
>Mori literally hates her job so much she has to get high every time she plays a game with her coworkers
I really do believe that.

I want to fuck rrat cunt

>>17912832
This cunt has lived in Japan for like, what? Eight years? How the fuck can she not even understand conversational Japanese at this point?

>>17909413
They don't have to live on fear of their lifes. They don't live on the US

>>17912880
Thats easy. Just dont read and dont watch Japanese content. You really need thousands of hours of consumption to get good

If Mori hates idol culture why is she the most donated EN vtuber?
Is her hating idol culture somehow making simps less likely to donate to other hololive members? If anything this proves that GFE is dead in the west.

>>17912197
>That and she strikes me as the type to not care about a lot of games, but get weirdly attached and "possessive" about one or two every once in a while.
that’s not so abnormal for a lot of people who aren’t really ‘gamers’. Gura really isn’t so different. I think part of the issue are Covers restrictions. I much prefer to watch someone playing a game they really enjoy. Hopefully by the time EN can play FromSoft games Mori won’t have graduated.

>>17912880
She lives in Tokyo and near exclusively hangs out with fellow expats, her exposure is probably near zero simply because she filters it out/avoids it. She hangs out with Iris more than her jp senpai purely because she can't be bothered to try speaking to them at length.

>>17912951
I dont think she hates it. She just doesnt care about it and has no passion for it. She's just here to make money while she focuses on her music. Deadbeats don't care even if she said that she hated hololive.

>>17912880
bubbles in immigrant and expat communities exist around the world

>>17912292
clip? This sounds hilarious

>>17912951
Idol Culture deosn't equal money
Idol Culture doesn't equal GFE
GFE equals money
And yes calli does do GFE, she fucking does date streams, and drinking streams are the highest form of GFE for salary man

>>17903969
You can't even spell adequate, you chimp. Why would I trust your opinion on anything?

>>17912982
Cover doesn't really have restrictions, that's more Japan. They're a fair bit less cool with the fair use side of things, plus the fact they're a company receiving money for playing their games makes them a much easier target. They can't really afford to skip over getting permissions, they did that once and that got us the holocaust and nearly got Mio's entire channel perma-nuked.

>>17912273
A bit

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLB8Nt5W7hnKDWAzOH_NmsiVCmGx6zNgHV

This thread is hilarious

>>17913263
I'm glad you like it Mori

>>17912880
Why always people exaggerate that much when talking about Mori and her japanese? She hasn't been living 8 fuckinh years at Japan, some basic roommate reps and you will easily realize why that is so stupid. Learning a language is not that easy, it takes time and dedication, despite being years already taking English lessons and consuming tons of media in English I don't consider myself fluent yet. This considering that my native language is Spanish, which is quite alike to English, how much do you know about japanese? Because it's actually one of the hardest language to learn if you are a native English speaker, let alone being fluent. My take here is that you are an EOP who has a medium knowledge of another European language, and I am being generous

>>17913406
Because pink woman bad. Please understand.

>>17913144
>she fucking does date streams
The last one of those was like a year ago.

>>17913406
kiara picked it up pretty quick

>>17913499
She didn't, it still took her years. Do your reps, anon.

>>17904085
>chickenshits still seething
keep balking faggot

>>17912575
she sounds like she is under the influence

>>17913559
she said she picked it up in less than a year, and that was before even going to Japan

>>17913594
Ex-Deadbeat here, that's just her JWU voice. She sounds different when sloshed.

>>17913652
>Ex-Deadbeat here
same desu

>>17913406
You must be retarded, Japanese is one of the easiest Asian language to learn.

>>17913406
Anon I know this site shits on ESLs a lot but to shitpost on this site you still need a decent grasp at english, I'm sure you could communicate with an English person well enough, Mori is far from being at the level able to shitpost on 5ch and japs have to reduce themselves to elementary school level to talk with Mori in japanese, Lui's collab was cute but when you realise mori has been there for years it becomes embarassing instead

>>17913231
What the fuck? I thought it was funny to see deadbeats at the start go from
>It was a joke! It was funny!
to
>okay, it was dumb and she admitted that, but she's trying to work on her professionalism!
and
>Okay maybe she doesn't want to work on her professionalism, but that's because idol culture is toxic!
etc etc as people bring more shit up until
>Okay she's just a little autistic! A bit retarded, that's all!
I thought they were coping. I thought they were just getting desperate. What the fuck is this? It's close to like, 106 hours of this shit? Is she actually special? Deadbeats what the fuck guys?

>>17913679
How you hanging in there, samedesubeat? You find a new oshi yet? Did you watch Q? I've had to totally boycott all Mori material to avoid falling back into the hole. I don't want to love her anymore, and she's dangerously easy to love sometimes.

>>17913559
It took her 6 months while fully immersing herself, which is honestly quite daunting and not something everyone can do, but Mori not being able to after more than 3 years is on the other end where she's just plain lazy

>>17913687
Stop lying. Korean is way easier...

>>17913823
>You find a new oshi yet?
No
>spoiler
Also no, I'm also avoiding anything with her in it
I'm only gonna watch her in collabs with 5+ people that weren't organized by her.

>>17913868
Written, yes. Not spoken. Mori can't even handle it spoken.

Goddamn Mori mindbroke you faggots bad.

>>17913858
She's focusing on her music. She's not dedicated to it, sure, but laziness doesn't seem like the right way to assess it.

>>17913868
ESLchama, ONE OF THE EASIEST does not mean EASIEST

>>17913898
See you next Mori stream, falseflagger.

>>17913406
Copebeat…
She is on the same level that connor or gigguk are on but she had a 4 year head start

>>17913978
Yes, the next collab with 5+ people in it that isn't organized by her. I'm not falseflagging, I genuinely was a deadbeat.

>>17914018
Sure you were, buddy. No one lies on an anonymous image board.

>>17913950
It's not even one of the easiest. Its one of the harder ones. You probably shouldn't just ape things that you heard on the internet

>>17913945
it only takes her an hour to write a song, mormons can learn second languages in less than 6 months including Arabic and Chinese

>>17913789
what? it's way easier to communicate written than talk. There are people that pass N1 but still aren't even conversational, it can be entirely different skill sets. Sort of like how ollie is seemingly conversational in JP but basically illiterate because she doesn't know kanji.

This isn't that relevant but just saying that people could easily learn enough JP in a fashion to shitpost online but not be elementary school conversational.

What if Cover wants to force Holostars, and are making Mori do it because she's the most likely to talk to men, but also not JP?

>>17914083
You're free to not believe me.

>>17913823
Q Without mori
https://files.catbox.moe/tmnqk5.mp3

>>17913789
Language consist in 4 skills, and knowing Mori is not the most socially adept person is not that weird that she sucks at speaking. In addition, if you start getting anxious you perform even worse. Trust me, I know what I am talking about, I have easily a C1 at reading, but 6 months ago the test they did to me at the English academy was speaking and they suggested me to join their B2 course (basically they assumed I was even below B2, holy kek)

>>17914135
I'll choose to believe you're a lying shitposter over an absolute retard for your sake.

>>17902865
Bae pretty much did that too herself by acting autistic close to Roberu, girl will forever be know has ''the holo that has a crush on a star'' if she doesn't want that she needs to speak up

>>17913932
My huge rrat about this level of mindbrokeness is we're seeing an unholy combination of the usual /vt/ sisters and tourists from black twitter who attempted to cancel Mori over the lean thing, only to be sucked into the madness that is /vt/. Some of the posts here remind me very grimly of how some on black twitter are.

>>17914220
>if she doesn't want that she needs to speak up
Sounds like the worst thing she could do. She wont be taken seriously and the clippers will spread the meme even more. She should wait for it to die

>>17914220
she did, 2 times i think but was for chat

>>17914161
fuck, it's infinitely better, how

>>17914169
how do you even manage to not learn a language in that much time. I managed to speak near fluent urdu in around 8 months or so, and I'm no genius lol

>>17914011
You haven't watched Connor and Gigguk at all then kek, if you are curious and you don't dislike that faggots too much watch a video in Trash Taste in the dark when Joey test their japanese level. [Spoiler] gigguk could barely read hiragana, he even said that katakana is easy. Even If you re N88 you know what this say about how dedicated he is [/spoiler]

>>17914134
Why would management be pushing one of the girls to do anything like that? How do holostars collabs bring in more superchats? That's the business model.
These things are organized by the talents themselves, with express or implied permission presumably.

>>17913800
>Is she actually special?
I dunno anon. Hard to tell really with the way she acts. I’ve noticed a bunch of people starting to bring up the possibility she’s slightly on the spectrum.

>>17914249
I’ve been a Mori hater for at least a year now so seeing everyone else become one makes me happy

>>17914328
the song itself has too much shit going on, even if moris rap wasnt cringe incarnate it's still be an improvement

>>17914395
>slightly
She is a hair away from low-functioning.

>>17914376
I was astonished how shit they were. Literally failing to write the kanji you'd learn first.

>>17914395
>slightly

>>17903914
finally another schizo that sees the light

>>17914407
Did you... actually read my reply?

>>17914358
It depends on what you consider fluent and on which is your native language and what languages you already know. I am sure I could learn portugueses in a few months, but surprise surprise portuguese is almost identical to Spanish

>>17914249
t.Deflectbeat
desperately trying to paint people who just plainly dislike mori either as black twitter or as SJWs is part of your tradition by now, no?

>>17914462
Most people pretend to hate mori for the memes here. Retards on twitter are acutally seething at shit. I don't get how you fail to understand this

>>17914415
Knowing how to handwrite kanji is actually pointless unless you want to handwrite kanji. Knowing how to recognize and read it is all you need unless you actually need to write them by hand for some reason.

I can't believe a random white woman has permanently broken /vt/

>>17914544
>Most people pretend to hate mori for the memes here.
So you're being ironic? That's even worse.

>>17914605
White women are the devil

>>17903972
The easiest way to learn another language is to openly expose yourself to it day in and day out. Literally consume it, watch Japanese media, consume Japanese music, anything, get used to it.
This woman has LIVED IN THE LANGUAGE OF HUB SAID LANGUAGE and has REFUSED to expose herself to it. I understand what you're saying but do not excuse the fact she is an actual retard who just didn't wanna put in the effort

>>17914415
I can understand that you don't dedicate enough time to Kanji if you are starting, specially to writing them since nowadays everything is digital. But they were in another level of illiterate, I don't dislike them unlike the majority of this board but holyshit, the Japanese are the bad guys with their immigration laws despite people like them existing

>>17914605
>I can't believe the second-most subscribed vtuber in the world has a lot of attention paid to her when she does stupid fucking shit on a board dedicated to vtubers
You fucking cuckniggerbeats really like reaching, huh?

>>17914486
I was an eop until i had to learn urdu, and urdu is on the same level as arabic, mandarin and japanese when it comes to how diffrent it is from English. Now I was no wali dakhani but in that time I was easily fluent enough to live and work there

>>17914101
alphabet system, simple grammar, you don't even need to know kanji to have conversations.

>>17914673
I just don't watch people I don't like, retard.

You can learn conversational Japanese without having to shove 40000 kanji down your hole you'll never use
Japanese only has a fixed number of sounds, you can learn to speak Japanese light years faster than you could ever properly write kanji, there seems to be a lot of excuses for another person's lack of motivation in here

>>17914605
You don't understand. She doesn't care for Hololive.

>>17914605
>Mindbreaks an entire board
Haha...Mori would be a suitably oshi for him

>>17914772
shut up reanposter but you're right

>>17914135
He can't allow himself to believe you, anon. He has to maintain this mental state where he cannot permit himself to admit someone can just leave, otherwise he has no excuse anymore.

>>17914739
You cant really call yourself good at a language if you are illiterate cant you now?

>>17902865
He's so mad lol

>>17914838
Maybe not, but you can at least reach "conversational" and not "forces your coworkers to talk to you like you're the elementary schoolers you used to teach."

>>17914838
Mori's coworkers literally talk to her like a child because she only knows a child's level of Japanese spoken word

>>17914838
It's ok, as long as a japanese person says "上手!"

>>17914284
Even a private discord message could solve the problem, looks like Kiara already read the room but if she wait for girls like Ollie and Mori to get the message...she's going to get milked to death in this pairing

>>17914931
>moris co-workers talk to her like a child
>mori talks to her japanese co-workers like a child
it all fits together

>>17914938
Kek, you are a man of culture, this thread of schizos don't deserve you

>>17914391
Luxiem's doing better than expected, and they don't want to completely miss out on that market. They can't just shovel out a HolostarsEN, so instead put out 2nd most subbed western chuuba to push the males they do have.

Not my best rrat, but I see the potential. Why would she suggest it in the first place if she can't even talk to them?

>>17902911
>ENfags will justify this shit

>>17914931
JPs don't find it condescending, they find it endearing and helpful.

>>17914931
Mori's coworkers mostly don't talk to her anymore, because they're too busy.

>>17914838
You don't need to be literate to have a conversation or collab with a senpai. You just need to be able to speak and listen.

>>17915124
nah, because she is a shitty human

>>17914831
literally the deadbeat crying in the infamous picture

>>17915172
you're as proficient in reading the room as Mori.

Roberu is from the Kansai region iirc, kind of like how Korone has a mixed dialect of Kansai and one she doesn't wanna specify for personal reasons, Roberu also speaks very fast, so out of many of the Stars he's arguably one of the most difficult to collab with for a non native speaker compared to say like, Aruran who's very considerate of his guest and speaks a fluent regular Japanese dialect.
Not to say Roberu can't make himself easier to understand it's just, it's like asking a hillbilly to "speak clearer", they just enunciate a lot of words differently because it's where they are from

>>17915124
>>17915172
Has this yab reached JP yet? I wonder if they would even care and what her senpais would think of her. I know she has a lot of fans over there.

>>17915369
doubt it, I'm just shitting on Mori

>>17915369
She's a loose cannon tall american wigger woman, essentially an animal that's alright to fuck/fap to. She can be as much of a boor as she wants to.

>idol culture bad
>threads about being greyniggers and how poor they are with gigachad images
>ywnbj
>defend e-celeb and antitubers
what the fuck happened to this board?

>>17915369
nips will never care doesnt matter how big the yab is, unless she makes moves on the jp girls.

>>17915651
there's an unironic fuck ton of astroturfing from niggers on twitter and reddit

>>17915651
any thread that's not a general is shit and bait for tourists basically

>>17915651
the golden path requires shifting shitposters' attention from generals using low effort bait threads.

>>17902911
God, Bae is so fucking cute. I love those two.

>>17902911
>your japanese is great
Bae please, I know you're a sweet girl but you literally can talk an infinite number of circles around Mori in Japanese because you actually care about languages

>>17903588
I'd just like to point out that Jump King has been Connor's main stream game for at least a few weeks, in case there was any doubt as to why she'd choose to organize a tournament of this specific niche game that nobody else in Hololive cares about.

>>17915890
is Bae better than Kiara?

>>17915717
And Discord no doubt

>>17910359
I realized this too when she flip flopped from despising Jojo to talking about it nonstop
She's the kind of person who'd autistically hate something because someone else told her to, and then love it as soon as somebody she likes talks about it

>>17914605
>a random white woman has permanently broken /vt/
ahem

>>17903588
> jump king tourney
there is no way she is this autistic. Setting up a tourney for a game that you know you are one of, if not the best player at in your organization.

>>17917264
she's not, but she's very efficient in conversation

On the hierarchy of japanese reps i'd say
1. Anya
2. Irys
3. Kiara
4. Iofi

>>17917444
not autistic, just a selfish bitch

>>17916846
I'd like to point out that she came up with the idea 3 months ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf4l1Hwjv8o&t=22893s

>>17917883
oh no no no no no /vt/ sisters not like this

>>17915651
heavy influx of ledditors and twitterfags, jealous 2views and TTfags from the Mori drama

>>17917444
>Time to First Completion
Shien: 7:19:21 (https://youtu.be/bX-3pp9f6Ww?t=6467))
Kira: 8:00:53 (https://youtu.be/2F0H6OBlZGM?t=29197))
Botan: 8:21:48 (https://youtu.be/4LlslJpcL8U?t=32185))
Iroha: 10:44:08 (https://youtu.be/dNvFxRnrx_c?t=9030))
Okayu: 14:19:07 (https://youtu.be/IA6vJg0Rl14?t=19219))
Astel: 17:47:50* (https://youtu.be/IxRF9upVEgE?t=9995))
Aqua: 18:29:21* (https://youtu.be/It9gNijCFWM?t=11363))
Mori: 18:42:31 (https://youtu.be/kJZNrgw2COg?t=30862))
Koyori: 20:51:53 (https://youtu.be/n96GWwtsw3s?t=36902))
Pekora: 28:09:53 (https://youtu.be/ZHBbO7cuX70?t=5643))
Roberu: 29:35:12 (https://youtu.be/aiKvnUhy4h0?t=3207))
Kanata: 32:46:08 (https://youtu.be/KMxJxdaSmFw?t=21766))

>Single Run
Mori: 0:07:56.748 (https://youtu.be/P7O5fnEKZfI?t=15791))
Iroha: 0:09:58.077 (https://twitter.com/kazamairohach/status/1476371020299010048))
Astel: 7:44:49 (https://youtu.be/FUL5WHg0JZI?t=28505))
Aqua: 10:29:21 (https://youtu.be/It9gNijCFWM?t=11363))

There are currently 6 holopro members who are better than her at the game.

>>17913652
>>17913679
>>17913823
>>17913898
You cucks upset that Connor gets plow Mori's ass every night while you jerk off with your own tears?

>>17902911
>Where was the question
She has a point
Calli doesn't ask anyone if they want to do something she just forces them
She creates a situation where if they turn her down they come off as a dick

Why does everyone keep bullying Bae about this? She panicked so hard the first time that I wanted to cry for her.

>>17902865
She has nothing but cock on her mind

>>17915651
this board has been shit ever since its inception,what the fuck was wrong with company generals in /jp/?

>>17918159
Holy fuck what a buttfucking of a BTFO.

>>17915651
You will never be Japanese, you pasty, sad little faggot.

>>17919442
/vtg/ soon?

>>17919663
stay in your lane barbarian

>>17904792
>relatively similar skill level
Kek. Maybe if they picked EOH and not an actual good game.

>>17902911
>that way of speaking
Is this bitch high or something?

>>17914249
There is also higher than usual chink activity on the board. It's just a mess.

>>17918138
TTfags in general have been bitching because anybody dared insult their god, the accesory gigguk uses to compensate for his insecurity over being a SEAnigger.

>>17913406
Literal copebeat, she didn’t learn because she didn’t want to. I live in Japan and have been here for over 7 years and know a lot of expats who live in bubbles and never learn more than a couple greetings and simple words in Japanese. They literally can’t even introduce themselves or anything and it’s not because it’s a difficult language, me and others who actually learnt it took 2-3 years to go all the way to fluency because we actually talked to Japanese people and consumed media, those who go slower take at most 5 years to catch up and have a level of Japanese that can let them live here comfortably. This is why, the only explanation for Mori not knowing the language well enough is that she just doesn’t care and she’s just another expat who prefers to live tied to a community of foreigners here instead of actually experiencing the country she’s come to.

>>17914249
>and tourists from black twitter who attempted to cancel Mori over the lean thing
I think the who's mindbroken here is you schizochama.

>>17918159
>not the best even at the game she's 'good' at
Pathetic

>>17915651
Spoonfeeding newfaggots and ledditors, anons here barely gatekeep anymore

>>17921453
Too late to change the narrative now

>>17921206
>get the chance to live in Japan
>don't hang out with Japanese people or speak Japanese
>get the chance to be Japanese idol
>don't want to do it, actively try and change the culture
Why doesn't she go home? Does she hate Japan?

>>17921837
That's how wiggers roll, go into the country and try to colonize it.

>>17922090
americans*

>Ollie acted like a retard and clearly made Bae uncomfortable.
>Sorta (not really) took the hint and stopped but instead uses any opportunity to screech about her autistic family tree containing every Homo in Hololive.
>Kiara acted like a retard and clearly made Bae uncomfortable.
>Sorta took the hint and probably won't do it again.
>Mori acted like a retard, never spent a single brain cell on wondering why Bae suddenly went deathly quiet and only interacted by hissing.
>Will never take the hint and will continue being a retard that makes Bae uncomfortable.

>>17903588
>huge chance of jp and stars interacting
Okay I'm looking forward to this now, the shitshow would be good. Can't wait for idolfags to finally shit on Mori Calleanope

>>17922215
Post timestamps, I don't watch any of those but with 0 streams I need something to kill time.