/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://youtubeliveen.soraweb.net/ex/バーチャルYouTuber
>https://mix.live-ranking.com/?keyword=バーチャルYouTuber

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>17896365
There are no oldfags in /jp/ anymore, the only oldfag still left there is this guy and his compatriots, who've completely shat up the place to the point where it's more apt to call it the tribal war thread rather than the hololive thread

>>17896594
>the tribal war thread
Just like /#/ ?

>>17896678
More like what numbers could become if you continue to shitpost irresponsibly

>>17896678
number thread with more seaniggers.

>>17896678
hey man, at least we use numbers here, even if they're wrong most of the time

>>17896678
Number thread used to be graphs and management larp. Now, its just schizo vs schizo battle.

>>17896751
And burgers. /hlg/ during dead hours is just non stop shitflinging between SEA, NA, and ES.
t. /jp/ oldfag

>>17896789
>we use numbers here
speak for yourself, I only come here to scream every time my oshi reaches a milestone or wins a medal

9k waiting
https://youtu.be/EwMcu7TMaF4

>>17896789
>even if they're wrong most of the time
Okay, where's the anon that wrongly adds up how many are watching Niji currently

>>17896914
what's it about?

okakoro already at 13k

>>17896942
another one of those roleplay YGO thing

>>17896942
Yugioh.

wamy 10k

https://twitter.com/dengeki_maoh/status/1490641658744283136

Marine's artbook selling out, second print run confirmed

numbers numbers numbers

Lamy 10k get, gen 5 schizo jisatsu shitai no?

been a while since i watched a lamy stream, is her background always this eye burning

>>17897028
Hololive collab and underestimating demand, name more iconic duo.
>>17897061
Yeah this is her new background, there are three version of it.

>>17897028
so judging by mangakas getting overjoyed when their mangas got reprinted, i guess they really sold a lot of those things huh. i kneel.

>>17897089
>Hololive collab and underestimating demand, name more iconic duo.
can we stop with this meme, you don't even know the initial stock of the thing. stop spewing bullshit.

>>17897148
Anon, even if they have hundred thousands copies in stock, if they are immediately sold out it means that they are underestimating the demand.

https://youtu.be/9rhlprMfU7w
>500k in 2 days

>>17897217
it's not even a good animation wtf?

okakoro 20k

>>17897217
Wow that's almost as much as Chloe's fotm song cover after 5 days.

Mori why... this is JP primetime your audience is asleep...

>>17897285
Reine has been paying EN for collabs so it cant be helped.

>>17895663
Damn, so they're leaving Suichan and Rushia behind after getting them to move close to them?
That's cold.

>>17897350
God it's so fucking slow
Gozaru do an endurance stream already, I want to see you milk that half million like Koyori did

wamy guruguru'd and at a pretty bad time too

>>17897405
Suisei is fine, Rushia however....

>>17897350
Sana lmao

>>17895594
anon Lamy was peaked at 16.5k

>>17896069
b..but the likes!

>>17897410
The weird thing is that even HoloX seems to be getting sub culls, even though they shouldn't have what the AI considers inactive subs.

Watame you're on your 18th Pokemon stream in 2 months, no wonder your numbers are tanking

>>17897582
she already has more views than aruran, still processing

>>17897598
It's weird. Iroha's subs definitely aren't as dead as Chloe's but it is what it is.

>>17897350
Nene endurance karaoke to 900k subs pls! The SC, the number... AAAIIIEEEEE

>>17897350
The interesting about sub milestone right now is Moona about to get 1M subs and Suisei about to passed Ina and Haachama.

very nice Popona.

OkaKoro 25k

i got shadowbanned in every youtube stream chat, does that mean i wont count as live viewer either? I have a premium account

thought it was just lamy that had an issue, but after looking for a bit, it looks like an isp hiccup, since a few people had the same thing

>>17897718
Silver

>>17897718
Definite gold contender if they get a nice funnel or two

>>17896112
I started watching chuubas back in March 2020, but I mostly did discussion on reddit, since surprisingly it wasn't filled with faggots at the time. Back during the chinkout there were even super anti china memes getting upvoted to the front page (and only yeeted by the mods after they let them vent for 48 hours).
Once Myth debuted and Asacoco died, the quality of discussion slowly dwindled and JP chuuba discussion started dying out. So I moved over to /vt/ when it was first announced.
I guess I'm not exactly and oldfag, but a 'middle-aged'fag?

will polka get a boost for having the undoubtedly most hideous hoodie of gen5?

>>17897846
at this point nothing can be more awful than her alt

>be Myth
>work your ass off and get 40k CCV, unprecedented subs growth and massive popularity worldwide
>still get less care, less costumes, less sponsorships and less game permissions from management compared to gen 5 which can't even break 20k on a costume reveal
Is it any wonder they aren't motivated to stream?

dont reply to the schizo

>>17897930
>work your ass off
kek

>>17897953
2 seconds too late

>>17897955
>responding to the gen 5 schizo
retardslap.png

>>17897990
I can't count but ignore that

It's the gen 5 schizo again

>>17897873
I honestly think it's the face/eyes. Like yeah, the outfit is pretty unappealing compared to what you normally see in Holo but the design and colors pretty much demand you have a normal fucking face. I know it'd be weird as fuck to see but a blonde hair normal eyed polka would probably fit that more than those sparkly, star-studded ass eyes. Plus for whatever reason it feels like the rigging on the face is 10x worse than her normal outfits. She legitimately looks like a disabled child when she tilts her head in some ways

>>17897767
Yes, and possibly YT is stealing money from the creators you watch.
Complain on Twitter.

>be /vt/ schizo
>post obvious bait
>no seriously, the most low-hanging fruit you can ever conceive
>gets (You)s anyways
home

the rena hayato chaika collab looking like a 20k+ stream, don't think it's gold contender

https://youtu.be/bFDA8VPwXHA

Even jun kneel to aqua kek

>>17897628
Sheep is too busy streaming to care about #

>>17898103
Did FPS shaka said something.

>>17897217
https://youtu.be/iFriU18FoxE
This one is getting enormous traction too, but to be fair, this is one of the best skits ever by a fan. This one absolutely deserves whatever attention it gets

>>17898037
yeah, i think it's because both her eyes are too big so they get too close to the side of her face and the hair is too thin/without volume so it doesn't complement it well at all, it's wild how bad it looks

>>17898037
No, really, it's not good at all. It's exactly like what you would see on Harajuku, with half the girls having good taste and the other half doing *this*

>>17898156
*had enormous traction, now it's dead

>>17897930
Hi Chinks, we've already read your Note page and all your talking points. Try some new angle

>>17897718
> chat is full of greynames
Memberships still dead?

>>17898249
No no, that's gen5 schizo. He's been at it for fucking EVER.

/#/ is declining.

>>17898311
Shut up chink we're wise to your ways

Reine continues to be viewer poison for HoloEN

>>17898282
Dead for 2-3 days during the migration.

friend 10k APEX

>>17896594
>tribal war thread
That would require talking about EN whores or nijibeggars there in the first place

>>17898311
It's funny because I'm the original poster of the actual complaint I had that was way more reasonable and had valid points to the comparison, but schizos latched on to it and for the past few weeks have been entering threads with their hate agenda.
I even said in the post(s) that I like gen5 too and think they're really sweet people. No hate at all against gen5 but rather cover for doing so little for myth.
People just want to shitpost here and take whatever they can to get (you)'s

>>17898143
I don't watch shaka and there is no clips so probably no.

>>17898127
Koyori streams all the time too but at least she shakes it up, sheep's last two months have been literally nothing but Pokemon, SC readings, Mario Kart, WNF, ocassional Minecraft and Bakatare collabs. I'd rather she played another gigadebuff NIS game than just keep doing the same tired shit over and over again like she is now

>>17898311
wouldnt be surprized if that retarded schizo was a fucking chink.

Has anybody beaten 25k today other than Okakoro and Mario Party collab? Think the YGO RP will be able to do it to get bronze or maybe even silver?

>>17898336
Shut up, if you don't want your family dead under mysterious circumstances.

>>17898554
Yugioh is already at bronze...

>4.7K for Mori
Jesas this is even worse than when she collabed with Mousey, is the ID debuff real?

>>17898554
no way it's getting silver, the curve is already setting and it's been going for an hour, it's slot change now
also okakoro is almost at 30k

don't let it slip fu-tan!

No Wamy, this is not how the funnel works. Don't bully the clown.

6 days and 5 hours

>>17898336
mori debuff

lol polka showed it in 8 mins, didn't even get to 10k

>>17898931
this is one of her fastest covers I think but the song isn't that popular. Maybe Suisei is gaining views in her covers faster than before

Polka.... your spot on the chart...

What's happening with King?

>>17899053
Okakoro might funnel to her if she lasts more than 30mins

>>17899047
It's about 12 hours slower than her KING cover.

>>17899079
Nah she already showed it and started bleeding viewers
>>17899076
V*lorant happened sadly, please pray for his soul

>>17899079
She's done anon.

>>17899132
>>17899136
> not even 15 mins
for fucks sake poruka...

No niji gold for the rest of this week.
>why
Tomorrow marks the start of Valorant scrims, this means prime time until midnight will have KING, oil king, and kanae/lauren overlapping everything, no niji stream can break 30k under those circumstances.

they were just accessory capes... but they were easy 10ks for everyone, why is polka so number retarded

>>17899250
>Valorant
Why do they play this numbers poison

>>17899295
Tencent

>>17899295
Nijisanji really needs more game perms.

>>17899327
This. Why is Anycolor not proactive in getting game perms so that their talents can play other games?

>>17899053
Lamy didn't release her viewers to funnel Polka. poor clow.

Is the 1 viewer bug fixed?

>>17899405
This. How can they have so little game variety? No wonder King is unmotivated.

>>17899439
We just call that natural recline now

>>17899304
Are they at least being fucking PAID for this travesty? (Sponsored tourney?)
Good gods, well tomorrow Aqua Apex stands a very good chance of taking gold, assuming she isn't in overlap hell. Her last one was only 24k, but this is off of her Solo Master's challenge, and she got there in such a showy way too, getting there from Plat IV in such a short amount of time and then easily getting champion on the encore master's match.

>>17899439
Yes, fixed at about 13:00 JST yesterday, pretty much just before Gura finished her bully playthrough.

>>17899496
Probably, the sudden shift to Valoran is really suspicious

>>17899471
Yeah, all I see from them is Valorant, PLA, MC, APEX, and YGO. They really need more game perms so that there's variety and they become more motivated, but I'm glad that despite their limited resources they're still streaming.

Daily reminder that we hate Pekora here.
Can't sing? Check.
Can't dance? Check.
Shitty gamer? Check.
Lazy and boring? Check.
Reclining? Check.
Chicken? Cold.

>>17899605
ogey

I will blame the fucker who brought up the game permission topic in the last thread in case this one goes to shit ...

>>17898702
Nah, just Reine. Same thing happened when she collabed with Mumei in a massive buff game; MC.

>>17899496
Only the VSpo girls had a public contact.
The rest might have just been roped in.

>3 man collab with Kagami, Rena, Chaika
>can't even get 25k
Konami chose wrong

I don't think this is slipping

>>17899412
Lamy still has to farm superchats pls andastnd

>>17899773
didn't chaika have his own pov for this for some reason

>>17899788
She hasn't (quite) caught up with Botan's yet which is surprising

Flare gold

>>17899867
Botan had a bad new buff.

>>17899867
im guessing it's the "sorry yours got leaked" money

>>17899883
>Bad
>Buff
So which is it?

>>17897930
They have THREE alternate outfits AND a 3D model each. Quit your bullshit you absolute niggerfaggot.

>>17899937
Ops, bad news buff. She is going to the hospital for a week for checks.

Let's fucking goooooooo
Noel, Lui and Chloe lewds are also welcomed

>>17900004
i love you horny poster, never stop

>>17900004
based

FLARE-SAMAAAAAAAAAA

I love collabs gold

SMOK Mario 3D World endurance on the 10th, definite gold if it's a 1POV

>>17900004
>>17900047
>>17900112
>>17900117
>>17900153
Thank you

>>17900117
slurp slurp

>>17899943
Where's their official channel appearances? Where's their participation in hologra? Where's their live2D accessories? Where's their convenience store sponsorships? Why weren't they picked for Dying Light 2, a game which appeals much more to Western players?

This is Flare's first gold since the current tallyanon started doing them

Temaki can barely break 10ks anymore, sad recline

>>17900557
She only does when she's leeching off Ui or the holos

Draki Kona's pulling over 1k on her singing, clearly there's a Thai market the bigger companies overlooked while going for ID.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoQ2p99YRgs

>>17900700
Lui-nee speaks thai

>>17900700
>Thai
>her

AAawwwwww
Flare Gold?

>>17898467
Shitting up this thread too? Shut the fuck up.

Where can I see live subcount for all vtubers?
Got interested when someone posted Nimu surpassing Subaru in subs

>>17897767
now i am un-shadowbanned again. Great site.

>>17901008
Not a vtuber. Also fuck off.

Migo 10k with gorilla singing

>>17901175
>with gorilla singing
What she duetting with Kanata?

>>17901092
https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/Nimu_Spacecat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvcDgzNmCJk
Chloe is doing a gacha stream
May the Lord protect the wallets of all men in Japan

>>17900700
Nacho mama I kneel

Amelia didnt gain any subs for like 2 weeks now.
She stuck at 1,6million,I think its fair to say that she has started declining without malice.
Rushia is about to pass her at 1,57miilion
And Gura and Calli all have gotten their weekly 10000 subs.
So I dont think its a subcount bug or whatever its a genuine lost of interest.

Vox SCs:$4700

>>17901395
Well, it's what she's always wanted, so good for her.

>>17901395
did her anti number tactics finally caught up to her? i knew she couldn't do this forever

>>17901311
Yes Stinky Orca, I will allocate some of my life saving to this stream.

>>17898103

>>17901311
Vox dont look!

Mumei passed Reine and got to Patra.

>>17901311
Okay which one of you fags is this?

>>17901395
Neither had Ina, Pekora and Fubuki, but you picked Amelia to make your bait believable, and Gura explicitly stated that her channel is going through sub purge.
Go neck yourself.

>>17901691
No numberfag will ever say no to gacha, it's a false flagger.

Fuwa takes a small lead ahead of Iroha.

>>17901691

>>17901486
Unfortunately they did,I believed that no matter what Ame does she would still get what she usually got but it seem like the inconcistency with her is too much.

>>17901691
holy kek

holy shit
this fucking guy

>>17901895
told you fujos are more mentally ill than any retarded male scer

>>17899047
Being the newest cover on her channel, I think it got a boost from the shilling on TV. At least a couple of the top voted comments say they came because of that.

Also, a couple of threads ago people were wondering why Ranbu no Melody got a boost in views, and I just realized that it's already a year old, so they are probably anniversary views.

>>17901727
My man chill just because I noticed that Ame is reclining doesnt mean its bait.
I dont follow the HoloJp much, Ame is my favorite so I only checked the one who is right behind here and that is Rushia.
And Ina and Kiara both have gained less subs for quite a long time now.

>>17898931
It beat that awful Animal, right?

>>17902044
>awful Animal
???

>>17902044
uh, sure. Whatever you want

>>17901895
Taiwan Chinks are crazy

>>17901895
Other than his voice, he doesn't seem to have any other talents which is likely that he was chosen to be the SCpig from Anykara.

>>17902044
Do not call Bae an Animal, she is a rat.

>>17902044
man, what did miko ever do to you, she's really inoffensive

>>17901994
Has there been any doubt? They are the kind to even take loan and get in debt just to fuel their particular brand of malfunction.

>>17901292
>a fan wiki
Fuck off.

>>17902103
Suisei had a really bad cover of Animal recently.

>>17902044
animal was 3 days

>>17902143
Male-Kronii

>>17902136
It's built in their chink genetic

>>17902143
>her than his voice, he doesn't seem to have any other talents which is likely that he was chosen to be the SCpig from Anykara.
>>17902308
>Male-Kronii
I wish Kronii had the same drive he has.

"Male Kronii" would be him cracking down on fujos cat calling him, refusing to use his voice and character design to seduce his audience, collabing off screen with the rest of his branch and streaming infrequently enough for his audience neither to miss him nor to get used to his presence

>>17902308
Vox at least seems to enjoy his job

>>17896170
vstats has replaced vrabi for me save for simultaneous graphs. That's one great feature of vrabi. vstats is a quality site and I don't mind shilling it.

>>17902376
Dunno about that. It could also be he is trying to milk his audience as much as possible before Anykara release another wave of EN male after seeing Luxiem's success.

>

>>17902536
There really should be some splits, like /news/ and /sisters/

>>17902529
>vstats is a quality site and I don't mind shilling it.
Give it a little bit of time to establish itself. Even vrabi wasn't seriously used until CCVID hit (because it was the only site with Nijisanji and other vtubers CCV in line chart form)

>>17902375
>>17902376
I see a lot of this "chubas enjoying/loving their job/streaming" when it comes to comparisons between Council or HoloEN in general with NijiEN and HoloJP but they really don't even have to LOVE their jobs to stream more than they already are.

They don't have to stream every day like Pekora, Miko, Lamy or even have multiple streams per day like Koyori.
They just have to stream consistently (so not like one week on and one off) 5 days a week for 2-3 hours a day.
That's it. That's all it takes. 5 days a week for 2-3 hours a day.

Imagine thinking you have to "love" your job to do at least that much when wageslaves work at least 8 hours a day for 5 days a week for a fraction of appreciation and money.

Reimu has passed Omega, say something nice about her.

>>17901395
She should do an Ame in the AM news report into the decline of her numbers. That would do well for numbers I think.

News about twitch numbers .
A russian youtuber made the exposure one of the most massive cases of using bots. Over 500k bots for a small group of people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbQVEZvSMEs
8:25 An example of using a bot program
11:08 Using the improved version
Thanks to these bots, the streamer once received about 200k viewers.
This streamer (nekoglai) and his twitch groups have been doing this for several years.
A pic from a stream that had 400k viewers. The diagram analyzes all users who visited the stream.
What are the chances that big vtubers on twitch are using programs like this?

>>17902554
/news/ can't maintain itself afloat in this board. People tried

>>17902561
It's problem is it didn't include indies, running vod views, averages, and monthly VOD views. It just as more info at the cost of refresh rate and missing some good vrabi features.

>>17902536
kek, chinks and seamonkeys always come parrot their retarded rrats here before going to sleep

>>17902592
Is Omega the final tutorial boss?
What's Yagoo at?

>>17900004
This feels like it's traced from a real pic

Remember when people here were saying holoX wouldn't keep up their streaming frequency for more than a couple of weeks?

Ninja with a sneaky $3k today. I await the Orca's numbers tomorrow

>>17902776

>>17902628
Genius people woukd love these sort of neta joke

>>17902776
>>17902804
The fucking state of council

>>17902747
I guess that would be Choco's sub channel, which is still above Sana, by the way.
Yagoo was removed from the list some time ago.

>>17901395
>>17902007
If Korone doesn't gain any new subs today she'll drop to 10k a month. Pekora has 2 days left.
I haven't checked every member but those stats are fairly common.
For reference, the smallest sub growth per month in Holo is Anya, at 9k.

Some /news/ from niji that I found out today,

>https://mobile.twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1489758202027728897
Selling anniversary goods

>https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000379.000030865.html
>Ads for 4th anniversary goods running for one week at 4 different stations
>Hanasaki Morinaka 1st VR LIVE “ Shimojo”
VARK
>JK group started from here 2022
Anniversary stream for wave 1 I think
>Suzuka Utako 3D birthday live
Lame, poor girl failing to pander EOPs
>ChroNoiR Winter Live -End point of the
trip- )
Might be gold

>https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000378.000030865.html
>A shop collab with https://mobile.twitter.com/kotobukiya__85
Lifesized images of the girls on storefronts

>https://mobile.twitter.com/nijisanji_radio/status/1490158315594084352
>Kanae collab with a VA, 1.1M followers

And the more surprising news is,
>https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000377.000030865.html
They collabing with Nissin and has their own special program soon

They're doing good at the moment despite cancelling events. Clearly all this was planned beforehand so that the hype from the concerts would get carried to this events. If anything, I'd praise their planning team and how they go through lengths to monetize anything they could get their hands on even a nissin collab kek.

>>17902776
The scary thing about Koyori is that she still does guerilla streams despite her heavy schedule.

>>17902804
With Lui, Iroha and Chloe recovering from their issues, HoloX is ramping up to their full power soon.

>>17902804
>>17902776
They'll burn themselves out. Council is going for a long term strategy.

>>17902854
>long term strategy
Hey you can't do that! That's Niji copyright

>>17902776
sus sunday

>>17902854
>Council
>long term strategy
Kek

>>17902912
Amogus.

>>17902776
>>17902804
Iroha's also consistent, Chloe's picking it up again, and La+ is consistent but just has shitty internet, though she's moving soon.

>>17902816
Meanwhile... but at least there's Bae!!!

>>17902850
I wish Laplus wasn't such a failure. You think with all the tweeting she'd be more invested in this.

>>17902846
>Hanasaki Morinaka
It's read Kazaki

>>17902927
https://twitter.com/shirakamifubuki/status/1485120701141233666

>>17902952
Blame GoogleTranslate

>>17902648
Vtubers? It seems....unlikely, but not impossible, given the absolute state of Twitch.
Oh, a million views and this was released yesterday....
This is...getting quite the traction then isn't it.

>current Feb2022 watch hours
1. Aqua 606k
2. Peko 430k
3. Miko 362k (not including the ongoing utawaku)

Aqua amassed tons of hours and ccv with her second half of solo master challenge, but can she keep up her numbers against peko until the end of the month?
She definitely has a chance considering she plans to build Aquahabara in MC (or ARK, not entirely sure) after she's done with Apex Gacha.
ccv would probably averaged around 15k, or 20k if she's lucky, but it'd most likely requires and generates long stream hours therefore more watch hours.
Does peko have anything now that she finished DQ? this month may be the second time she'd lost the first place after FBK overtook her last December

>>17903015
unless peko turns on mc again, i think shes done

>>17902821
Sana, you can beat the sub channel! I believe in you!

>>17902571
>They just have to stream consistently (so not like one week on and one off) 5 days a week for 2-3 hours a day.
I disagree. A hour long stream is enough (Haachama used to do it in her more stable period), and even if it is 3 or 4 times a week it is enough as long as it is consistent and with continuity of theme

>>17902846
I have a theory, what if Cover has an S+ scouting team and Anykara has an S+ Managerial team?

>>17902648
>What are the chances that big vtubers on twitch are using programs like this?
not so small, given that no punishment is given whatsoever in those cases

>>17903231
>Meiro
>Roa
>Lulu
>KR branch
>IN branch

>>17902850
>Holox ramping up to full power soon
>Everyone except Lui hitting all time low numbers except for SC
>Holox members have dropped to literally less than 1k subs a day
What did anon mean by this?

>>17903015
How is Subaru looking for watch hours? She doesn't go as long usually but she's got a good crowd watching her.

>>17903231
No lol. Their management is just a different flavor of shit.

>>17902946
Probably busy with all moving stuff, she will come back full force once she gets it done.

>>17902648
Twicht will start culling too because advertisers don't want to pay these bot viewers

>>17903231
comedy post of the day

Today's superchat:
Nene $6699
Lamy $5506

Both 3 hour long streams with the same announcement, Lamy should have had an advantage because Nene just played ARK for most of hers, while Lamy was engaged with the chat the whole time. Surprising, no?

>>17903292
>>17903346
>>17903406
Okay, not managerial. S+ planning team. They could organize a lot of shit for profits. They don't even need the livers to be present, just borrow the image or commission art for it then mass print it. They clearly have a factory for it.

>>17903314
227k this month

>>17903378
amazon owns twitch, and twitch's ads are all about amazon owned products

>>17902648
/#/ really looking hard for new ways to cope since vshojo and the ugandan knuckles have been on the incline

>>17903457
More reason to start culling since they are literally giving away their money to botters

>>17903446
>They could organize a lot of shit for profits.
Cover is catching up on revenue with a fraction of the structure.

>>17903231
>Cover has an S+ scouting team
>S+ scouting team

>>17903446
>planning team
keeping up a huge event on the peak of pandemic, then having a bunch of their talents and staff catch the coof, and still trying to push it to then have to cancel it a little later. That's all on the planning team.

>>17903446
i wouldn't give S+ for planning a concert that ended up cancelled and got half their top earners covid anon.
But sure, day to day they are above average and probably have a larger production comittee than cover.

>>17903525
Nah, it looks better for them that they have so many viewers. Besides, Twitch CPM is dogshit.

>>17903535
3/5 are awesome

>>17903535
Not this shit again about blaming the scouting team for Council not streaming

>>17903446
E- Management

>>17903535
Other than the clock and Ina's friend, they did well.

>>17903525
that would mean admitting there was a big problem that was wasting their money; not to mention have their viewership results dive down as you try to solve them. Both of which would be terrible for the amazon investor jewheads.
They'll just have to keep compensating the money lost on ads for bots (although they might use adblock) with what they gain on other twitch revs like donos, bounties and subs.

>>17903658
>blaming the scouting team for who they picked
Yes.
>>17903690
Mumei is pre-occupied and Fauna lacks talent and doesn't stream much either. I'm chalking Bae up to mismanagement and not scouting.

>>17903423
Nene is a monster, nothing about her superchats could surprise me again unless she beats Rushia in 2022 or something absurd

>>17902592
Reimu te amo!

>>17903525
Twitch is actually lead by competent business folks, they can and are more than willing to eat up advertisers complaints if it can appear larger than YT for streaming.
YT in the other hand is too concerned about dislikes and amateur reporting on their platform to give a shit about anything else

>>17903535
Every day I wonder why did they have to choose Sana. Sure, she could draw, but there's probably other artists out there who could commit to streaming and drawing at the same time.

>>17903829
HoloEarth assets. Though I'm pretty sure artists fall over themselves to work with Cover so I don't think Cover had any shortage of willing contractors.

>>17903446
The word you are looking for is marketing
>Also
Tally doko?

If Cover was provided with better facilities like a printing factory, could they have opted to make business decisions like Anykara with seasonal merch/Voice packs or event merchs? It's not that hard to print out acrylic stands, keychains, bag etc with commissioned art.

>>17903874
But how many artists of her caliber would be willing to give lower commission rate for a place in Hololive?

>>17903535
Their scouting team is mainly for JP talents
There is a bigger talent pool to choose from in JP than in the west, where everyone is just a vapid twitch e-thot

>>17904061

tally anon... /#/ is declining....

>>17904060
>Tally doko?
Tally anon is a noted Flare anti. He's left her off the list several times.

>>17903874
I'd rather Cover hires her for a full time job in their designing/art department rather than place her on a gen. They're losing out money giving a spot to someone who doesn't care about numbers or streaming.

>>17903231
>S+ scouting team
Not entirely true, Cover struck gold many times but they also had failures. These failed Holos are luckily being carried by the brand so people tend to overate them.

Which other game company has a high concentration of popular game IPs besides Nintendo? Konami only has MGS, so it's kinda nothing burger that Hololive doesn't have perms on. Fromsoft was kinda unfortunate. Could they get blanket permissions for overseas companies like 2K?

>>17904062
At a certain point there is a profit loss. If Sana had some kind of Lui effect even when not streaming it'd be fine but I feel like she's just kinda there, friends with everyone but not really a leader.

>>17904149
Or maybe the talent pool was just so shit and full of trannies and dudes that they decide to better hired a known professional. You can kinda see the case with the current change on their auditioning method, from seasonal to all year open auditoon. So, they can have more time to also scout for talents when the applicants are shit. Say what you want about council but they are tame af and familly friendly compared to the walking yab that are on twitch.

>>17904262
They're S+ because they can get 1% SSRs on their gens. Coco, Botan, Laplus, Kronii. The URs are Pekora/Marine/Suisei/Subaru/Gura. They struck gold despite them not having strong profiles when they got in.

>>17904397
>Gura
>Coco
>Botan
>Not having strong profiles
Are you fucking kidding with me right now?

>>17904262
Retard, They only get 1 new gen a year, not 10 gens and see what sticks on the wall. that's why the scouting team is S+

>>17904393
Oh come on, it's 5 against thousand of audition applications. There's a high chance most of them are tame and family friendly. Small chance of super talented people. They've probably shortlisted ones that seem to be a good personality overall, then shortlist them again by talents and thought Sana actually had a good profile behind her. They didn't know she would suck at streaming. All they gotta do for EN 3 is shortlist talents that actually wants to grind streams and has a background in streaming. There's tons of those in smaller vtuber companies.

daily tally anon dead?

>>17904552
no, i checked the numbers and it's just his natural recline

>>17902187
>not a vtuber because i say so
Fuck off

>>17904262
You can't be consistently lucky for almost 5 years. Cover wasn't even Top5 Vtuber group at the start. It's a miracle that they have good talents back then

>>17904397
>Botan
Well known and respected, taking candy from a baby pick
>Gura
Literally a walk-in
>Pekora
Good NND chops and popular enough
>Marine
Knew everyone and wasn't an unknown
>Kronii
Pretty famous and is one of the biggest recruiting blunders in hololive history. At least top 5 even if you include Aloe and Chris.

>Coco, Subaru, Laplus, Suisei
I'll give you that

>>17904535
Coco and Botan was borderline literally who when they joined. fucking Polka was bigger than both of them combined times 10 physically

>>17904535
Coco meant to be in management, Cover wanted her as a vtuber.

>>17904653
man, polka really was a huge blunder in more ways than one

>>17904589
>Fuck off
Fuck off

>>17904653
Gen5 would have been the GOAT gen if it wasn't for some very unfortunate incidents early on. I truly belive it.

>>17904653
>>17904690
Kek

>>17904711
Careful, you’re playing a dangerous game here

>>17902846
Despite having 150 livers, it's always those same people who participated in the events. Heck they somehow skipped Selejo completely.

>>17904140
Racist.

>>17904901
They cant pay sponsor fee purisu andastando

can't believe tally anon fucking died on his way home

>>17901008
The sub counts haven't been live for a long time now. Blame Pewdiepie vs T-series.

>>17904589
This.
>>17904694
Seriously, fuck off with your arbitrary thread bullshit.

>>17902776
Koyori is the queen of quantity over quality. Gotta respect the grind though.

>>17905152
>quantity over quality
*quantity and quality

Sorry for the typo.

>>17905152
this is how i know you don't watch koyo

FUCK IT, I'm betting Gura will be at 4m before anyone else can get 2m

>>17905234
it might happen if gura returns to her usual rate after the purges are done

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>32,609: Flare (Hololive)
>29,591: Korone (Hololive)
>21,069: yorumi rena (Nijisanji)
>19,614: Miko (Hololive)
>18,113: Botan (Hololive)
>16,202: Lamy (Hololive)
>16,146: Roboco (Hololive)
>16,039: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>15,093: Nene (Hololive)
>12,859: Rushia (Hololive)
>12,183: Fubuki (Hololive)
>11,951: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>11,948: Mio (Hololive)
>11,843: Shiina (Nijisanji)
>11,467: Kanata (Hololive)
>11,451: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>11,358: Chaika (Nijisanji)
>10,832: Fubuki (Hololive)

>>17905340
nice Flare

>>17905340
>16,146: Roboco (Hololive)
>16,039: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
holy kek

>>17905185
he is not wrong, all people talk is how much she streams and that's it, at least with someone like Lulu stream a lot of diferent games, koyo is always the same trash.

>>17905340
based

>>17905340

With gifting being new and all, is it possible that in the future, we're going to see nijiEN doing memberthon, stream for hours and plastering their new memberships on the stream?

>>17905340
K-King... !?

>>17905340
>Polka missed 10k by 123 views
god damit clown. couldn't you just tease it more or play something in your new look?

>>17905152
>>17905185
>>17905415
>koyo is always the same trash.
How is this "the same trash"? Those are just her last 20 streams, I'm not seeing what she could be doing more than she already is

Just say "I don't like any of the many things Koyori stream" and be done with it. Calling it "the same" devalues your argument

>>17905440
You bet they won't miss a chance to turn every viewer into members when their gachis could sponsor it

>>17905340
Hololive 12
Nijisanji 6

Only a gild and silver for Hololive and a 8-2 top ten count. Not a dominant day since it was a medal sweep and they were only ahead by 6.

Miko is holding 9k people for a SC reading session at 2 am what the fuck

>>17905340
glad to see you're not dead anon

12 holos
6 nijis
classic 8-2 top ten
slow day huh

>>17905340
people complained about Nene combining the reveal with a Ark stream but she is the only one who inclined even after the reveal

horny poster i need even more flare

>>17903015
slight update now that Miko finished her stream

>current Feb2022 watch hours
1. Aqua 606k
2. Peko 430k
3. Miko 395k

Miko is one stream away from catching up to the rabbit, if she does another long ass stream tomorrow and Pekora does a short stream or doesn't stream, then she might lost her 2nd place to the shrine maiden

>>17905340
On a day when Holos entire starting 5 was DNP (Pekora, Marine, Shuba, Gura, Aqua). They still get fucking gold. I fucking kneel to the box!

>>17905340
Another gold for Hololive. Can't stop winning.

Damn, I've been seeing a lot of YT streaming related reference in Mangas lately, that I began to question that their main entertainment now is YT streams. I mean, I do that too for my work with someone in the background.

>>17905340
Niji would have got gold if Kuzuha played Apex
Meh, well at least Rena got bronze with Yugioh buff, not bad.

>>17905611
she has been reading sc for 30 mins already holding 10k people the whole time
actually it's low due to it being a guerilla stream
she usually hold 13k sc reading on late night minecraft in the past

>>17905859
Miko is not going to stream today, you can check her schedule on her free chat channel. Most hololive members have at least a one day break nowadays.

>>17905340
So much for "people will not show up to see the reveal now that it was spoiled", it might actually gave her more boost.

>>17905611
That's what happens when you tell chat your thier GF.

>>17905900
Vtubers are killing the anime scene. Otaku? They used to spend money on anime not they spend it on vtubers.

>>17905859
This isn’t super surprising. Even breaks aside, this is one of Pekora’s absolute worst stretches in recent memory as far as numbers/hype goes. It’s one of the few times where the big numbers (carrot eating stream, return to ark) are the -outliers- of Pekora’s recent streams. Repeatedly outshined by Subaru and Aqua, only peaks at the very end of her streams after everyone stops streaming, is typically sitting at the “expected area” of what her streams get (22k), her lowest growth in subs ever even before the youtube culling and one of her worst vod performances in some time. 7hr streams getting 300k, recent ark stream had finished processing with her around 290k views in 4 hours, just really shitty all around.

>>17904711
>potential GOAT gen
>pushed heavily by management
>still mogged by EN with a fraction of the support
ok

>>17906174
took you long to respond, i thought you stalked this thread

>>17906128
Minecraft out, Ark in, numbers go down.

>>17906258
Don’t bully him anon, he’s had a rough day especially looking at the tally

>>17906258
Hes been on /hlgg/ all day

Tomorrow views gold will be 100% Aqua gacha apex right?
I think the only good debate will be Aqua apex gacha vs Chloe shadowverse gacha SC numbers.

>>17905864
Anon please, it's not like culled Gura can get gold. Shark strong in a million ways but winning gold ain't one
Speaking of which, I find the dead subs shit posts hilarious now that YouTube is culing inactive subs and somehow Gura is still on top in sub gain

>>17906261
On the topic of minecraft, it’s kind of funny how both council and holox dropped the ball so hard with minecraft.
Servers get merged and half of council decides to either go on break or not log in, and the most active one (Kronii) decides to not stream it at all. What makes it worse is you -know- she had an opening to be a shiraken member with Polka pushing for her hard but whatever mental block she had just put it to a halt.
Then comes Holox who get the grand invitation to join the server with all of HoloJP joining the server for them, only for only 2 to actually play on the server with 1 of them being entirely new to minecraft. Just threw away a big opportunity to make more happen on MC really

>>17903829
Sana keeps saying she’s apparently swamped with projects. Whether those projects are for Cover or the chink gacha games is unknown. Arknights somewhat recently featured the character she designed.

>>17901008
https://virtual-youtuber.userlocal.jp/document/ranking
It's not live though, and takes hours between each update.

>>17906491
Wasn't Koyo that one the set up the MC welcome event. HoloX was trying to revive the MC ark but there is no one else playing. Koyo with the MC hardcore, Iroha and the other server, Lui starting out. Chloe dead grandma and Laplus dead internet.

>>17903727
Bae was definitely mismanaged from the start given they were pushing the girls to do lore-related streams. If Bae started off her debut week showcasing off her strengths like VA skills and singing then she'd be much popular right now. I think it panned out ok overall given what she has accomplished so far, but thats all credited to how much hard work Bae did to get to this point.

Contrast this to Kronii who can still occasionally disappear yet still have massive fan engagement. It's very clear how a strong debut period sets up the pace for a chuuba's growth.

>>17906491
blame whoever started ARK up again, it distracted most of the holos away from MC

>>17906491
EN in general fails to get numbers. I know language barrier plays a big role, but it seems only second string ENs like Bae/Irys/Kiara/Ina collab with JP a lot. EOPs and JOPs want to see big names collab. Mash some fucking Gura /Mori /Kronii with Pekora/Miko/Marine/korone . God just imagine a Peko Gura collab

>>17906491
well eventually (maybe soon) aqua gets to her aquahabara project; pekora to pekosuke + usaken vs withers; miko school project; gura also has the haunted house she says she didnt give up on

>>17906636
Who has IRyS collab with other than Sora?

>>17906564
at least iroha can play with sora now
im sure once ark dies down koyo will be back, but she's extremely addicted to ark right now, she literally plays offline and tweets about it

>>17906564
Ehh I wouldn’t say MCHC is an attempt at reviving it or bringing attention back to it. That’d be like saying Fauna speedrunning old mc was the same as participating in the main server funtimes you feel me

They should just get a rust open server and bring war inside it

>>17906465
>Aqua apex gacha vs Chloe shadowverse gacha SC numbers
Will be interesting but it's also Tomoe's birthday who is probably the only Niji female who has Niji male superchat patterns, ie. she's going to make a shitton of money and almost certainly beat both

>>17906491
This has nothing to do with council and holox dropping the ball, the others hololive members just did everything in minecraft already they don't care about it anymore, when they decided to start playing Ark again there was nothing they could have done, even Sora complain about the server being empaty didn't move anyone from the older gen.

>>17906750
Ops i meant Koyo was interested in MC since she did the hardcore stuff before the welcome event. She was also the first to explore the holo server right after the welcoming. But she also does her best to follow the holo meta with pokemon and ARK.

>>17906636
Gura seriously needs to suck it up and make attempts at doing collabs with JP. And I don’t even mean just like stream collabs. I mean literally, fucking log on and play around with JP members.
It’s funny because Fauna has this issue of being a hardcore chumbud and general holo fan prior to joining, so there’s this legitimate issue of her actually declining to stream so she watches Gura.
While Gura is super fucking similar to that same train of thought, just without the streaming autism issue. If you watch Gura she ALWAYS brings up random things involving her watching JP in the morning, or getting around to watching clips or some shit. Like dude just ONE time, log in.

>>17906906
>no more content in MC
That's kinda stupid. MC is the biggest long-running game. They could just copy content from other MC streamers.

>>17906906
>This has nothing to do with council and holox dropping the ball
It definitely has to do with that.

Gen 5 took the invitation with open arms and, after the grand reception they threw for them
>which was not even a fraction of the relay made for the EN-JP portal
they went straight to build their shared house and mark their presence in the server.

>>17906922
Yeah Koyori, for better or worse, follows the same trend that most JP members do which is follow the meta and do nothing but the meta. It’s one of those “proven to be effective, tiresome as a viewer” moments where you just want something different or out of the box

>>17907050
There was already others people playing minecraft gen5 didn't do shit to revive minecraft fuck off with this bullshit and the others members we're not playing Ark like right now, there is just no way to compare it stop being dumb, Pekora has the biggest buff playing MC yet she still choosing to play Ark.

>>17907099
>tiresome as a viewer
How come something feel "tiresome as a viewer" if it attracts a large and continuous viewership?

The smallish segment of the audience saying this reeks of "hipsterism" and "I liked X before it as cool".

>>17907099
i mean, it's not like it's the only thing she does, she has a morning news show, is doing retro games on weekends and plays a new game for her channel every week
it's just that she streams so much that she also has time to follow the meta and play like pokemon and ark

Fuck, someone ddos the ARK server. There are 5 members playing it right now, most of the MC autists too.

>>17907159
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>>17907179
Tiresome for an EOP. The nips seem to love it judging by the viewership.

>>17907240
I don't even get that part of the argument.

>streamer streams X
>audience increases
>a segment complains "why is the streamer streaming X? I want something new"

Meanwhile there are hundreds of other streamers doing different things, out of the box things, amazing things, dumb thing that would likely please the person complaining and, yet, he refuses to go watch them.

>>17907179
Tiresome as a viewer as in there’s a repeated pattern across the board that wears you out. E.g. Evil God Korone, where after the 5th-6th time you’ve just become conditioned to it. Make sense?
I’m not completely sold on current day viewership for ARK. CCV is fine but overall views on some of these ark vods are low as hell. Even the Koyori vod of yesterday with what, 13k ccv or something? Has 150k over a 5 hour period. It feels more like a dedicated few watch but stay more than anything

/#/ is reclining...

>>17906128
Not just Pekor. Rushia and Subaru also don't get much buff from ARK, their numbers are better with Minecraft

>>17907693
I don't think Subaru has streamed ark enough at all yet to determine that but Rushia's ark a day ago or so was atrocious. 200k on a 5 hour long vod that had cameos like Flare and an off-stream Peko I think? It's really weird honestly. Every holo Ark streamer has taken dips in their views on ark vods progressively over time. Like Miko getting 400k in 4 hours, then 400k in 5 hours, then 350k in 5 hours, all within the same week of that timeframe. It's just a slope for many of them.
Viewers are likely just waiting for something exciting to happen honestly

>>17908016
ARK HATE
PLEASE SOMEONE DDOS THE ARK SERVER

As much as you hate ARK, it still brings a good amount of numbers. But imagine if Mojang revoked their MC perms, can they survive by just playing ARK all day