/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

you dumbasses let the last one reach bump limit without making another one. now even the stuff that still existed is gone. i guess the archives still exist, at least.

>>17436688
>>17599615
>>17677719
these seem like they belong here.

I spent 20 minutes searching for the archives of the old holoworld from Ame in the AM and you faggots don't even put it in the OP. There's also lore missing

>>17746896
sorry friend, i didn't see it in the previous thread. care to link?

>>17654314
>>17655643
>>17705860

>>17747181
>>17436594
There's still lore missing. The Suisei lore, for example but I'm not in a computer rn an it's bothersome to search

>>17747526
There's still lore missing. The Suisei lore, for example

>>17747891
if you know so many of them, couldn't you link them instead of telling me that i forgot some, previous thread is in the op's description.

>>17748214
I can't search for them. I'm not on PC and it's bothersome

>>17748343
ya, phoneposting is a pain. i know your pain, but i'm not your maid, i'm just the guy that started the thread. next thread (if you guys can remember to keep it alive next time instead of letting it die or reach bump limit before a new thread is ready) we'll have all of the links included, for now we can take our time with listing them all and what not. does anyone have any more lore or world building to add? also, i would appreciate it if someone could just take the existing map and jolt down some territories for people who aren't here. we might benefit from a list of all the threads we should include instead of constantly being vague (holo territory has a finite amount of chuubas, same with niji, indies, fetishes, and neutral might be harder, but thread presence is all that matters, and we can combine small ones like what we did with a few of them already.)

I was waiting for this thread to go up. This is just a bit of thread trivia and lore, but /nasfaqg/'s latest aggie featured /wtwbg/'s map for its street fighter collaboration drawing.
Keep up creating, anons, I really hope that you can forge these prompts and ideas you have into something substantial.

>>17749620
that's pretty cool. ty anon.

>>17749435
Is it time to send /vtwbg/ envoys?

>>17752842
lets get a map ready first, otherwise do what you want.

Does anyone know what happened to the climate anon? Or does anyone have skill with editing territories and those kinds of things?

>>17755501
Isn't climate anon basically done with the current map? What you might need is a mapmaker to finish the current map instead of leaving it in a half-finished state.

>>17755696
Ya. Do you know of one?

>>17756281
There's the anon who made the original map, but I'm not sure if he's not gone...

>>17756319
That would suck. He did such a good job. I can’t do this kind of thing, but maybe someone else could if they knew what programs to use.

all this time, still only 5 posters? why?

>>17759510
Who knows. Last thread lasted 5 days and it didn't have a high number of posters either

>>17759510
I can call my /meat/ bros if you want

>>17760300
/meat/ has unironically had some of the most consistently high quality posters in these threads. when did /meat/ become so based, and why aren't there as many high quality posts from the other threads? wasn't the first greentext lorepost about meat, too? i don't get it.

>>17760527
The can't have threads on their own so they spend the time here instead, writing of what would be of their threads if they were allowed to exist

bump for time.

Bump

>>17760957
figures. we need to get people who are interested enough in world building to keep this thread alive, but unlike /ybc/, /hfz/ /#/, /nasfagq/, etc. this thread requires a more indepth understanding of all the other threads and their relationship to each other to be successful. it's more complex than the average thread, basically. even if we got everything working, there would be no way to guarantee that our thread would replicate every other thread accurately, which is why we might as well not even try.
someone suggested just putting territories on the map for threads that don't already have land claimed for them, and i agree with this, but nobody wants to defend people who aren't even here, and we might run into problems when new threads are born or die, so here is an interesting idea, if we are creating nations for every thread on 4chan, what about this thread? shouldn't there be a nation that represents the world building thread if this thread exists? if so, what would it look like? how about we make it a nation that essentially exists to create new nations. this nation should be strong enough militarily that invading it's regions is a bad idea, but weak enough politically that it constantly gets separated into new regions every time it gets big enough to pose a major threat to the rest of the world, maybe it is just really well defended, but has a shit government, maybe make it a sort of confederacy, with a bunch of unrelated groups joining forces to survive the intense cold, breaking apart as soon as the problem that keeps them together no longer exists. idk if the south pole can be claimed, so i'll just say they are at the very bottom of the neutral territory in the coldest areas. attacking them in the winter is a bad idea, basically. they also conquer more of the neutral territory which is constantly changing ownership and thus would be a great target, but as soon as they get out of the claimed regions, politics gets in the way and they split off into new nations. if a thread dies, a nation gets conquered, or a new thread wants to join in, first they have to create lore for the worldbuilding nation to try to conquer a region that is at least close enough to where they want to go for them to be able to get there, and then if they want they can create lore about the politics that leads to the creation of their new nation. this allows for the map to be dynamic enough for people to get the regions they decide they want if they are willing to work for it, while also letting anyone (re)join in if they want.
this way we don't even need to give the threads that aren't participating any land at all, and keep in mind that you don't necessarily need to be from a thread to play their roles (you can claim a region for a different group if you think they would like it, if they don't like how everything is going, say that region got destroyed and that one of the new regions from the world building nation wanted to use their name and likeness, but with a few or maybe even a lot of tweeks to how things work. everything still requires someone who will make a map, unfortunately, but the less intimidating everything looks, the more likely someone will step up and try, right?
tell me how you guys think, or what suggestions you have on it.

>>17760957
figures. we need to get people who are interested enough in world building to keep this thread alive, but unlike /ybc/, /hfz/ /#/, /nasfagq/, etc. this thread requires a more indepth understanding of all the other threads and their relationship to each other to be successful. it's more complex than the average thread, basically. even if we got everything working, there would be no way to guarantee that our thread would replicate every other thread accurately, which is why we might as well not even try.
someone suggested just putting territories on the map for threads that don't already have land claimed for them, and i agree with this, but nobody wants to defend people who aren't even here, and we might run into problems when new threads are born or die, so here is an interesting idea, if we are creating nations for every thread on 4chan, what about this thread? shouldn't there be a nation that represents the world building thread if this thread exists? if so, what would it look like? how about we make it a nation that essentially exists to create new nations.
this nation should be strong enough militarily that invading it's regions is a bad idea, but weak enough politically that it constantly gets separated into new regions every time it gets big enough to pose a major threat to the rest of the world, maybe it is just really well defended, but has a shit government, maybe make it a sort of confederacy, with a bunch of unrelated groups joining forces to survive the intense cold, breaking apart as soon as the problem that keeps them together no longer exists. idk if the south pole can be claimed, so i'll just say they are at the very bottom of the neutral territory in the coldest areas. attacking them in the winter is a bad idea, basically. they also conquer more of the neutral territory which is constantly changing ownership and thus would be a great target, but as soon as they get out of the claimed regions, politics gets in the way and they split off into new nations. if a thread dies, a nation gets conquered, or a new thread wants to join in, first they have to create lore for the worldbuilding nation to try to conquer a region that is at least close enough to where they want to go for them to be able to get there, and then if they want they can create lore about the politics that leads to the creation of their new nation. this allows for the map to be dynamic enough for people to get the regions they decide they want if they are willing to work for it, while also letting anyone (re)join in if they want.
this way we don't even need to give the threads that aren't participating any land at all, and keep in mind that you don't necessarily need to be from a thread to play their roles (you can claim a region for a different group if you think they would like it, if they don't like how everything is going, say that region got destroyed and that one of the new regions from the world building nation wanted to use their name and likeness, but with a few or maybe even a lot of tweeks to how things work. everything still requires someone who will make a map, unfortunately, but the less intimidating everything looks, the more likely someone will step up and try, right?
tell me how you guys think, or what suggestions you have on it.

>>17765778
I like your idea. It's a nice solution to a problem that I saw since the beginning, the unclaimed land. The map would need to be updated each time that empire or whatever it ends up being splits off though

>>17766317
i thought the map was going to be updated regardless for when conquest happens. regardless, any suggestions you want to make?

>>17766405
I don't think so. At least not for now, it's pretty late in my country and maybe tomorrow some new idea arises.
Maybe they would probably have constant coup d'etat with such a strong army and weak politics, that could be the reason for the splits

>>17766734
>Maybe they would probably have constant coup d'etat with such a strong army and weak politics, that could be the reason for the splits
>this nation should be strong enough militarily that invading it's regions is a bad idea, but weak enough politically that it constantly gets separated into new regions every time it gets big enough to pose a major threat to the rest of the world

>>17766826
Reading comprehension very hard, please understand

>>17766902
no worries, i was just making sure you knew. so whose going to be here while >>17766734 is asleep? idk if i can keep it up for a long enough period that it will make it to the next day.

>Invitation letter to other generals
Welcome, delegate anons from each threads and generals.
Simply begin by providing backstories, lore, and interesting trivia about the history of your general and/or thread and help visualize it in the form of worldbuilding.
After you are comfortable with the basic lore of your general-nation, theorize which terrain, climate, and neighboring border generals suit your nation's needs.
Here is the provided map of climates and spheres of influence: >>17765778
It can help giving where the rough congregation of influence should be (IE which threads go where)
If you wish to place yourself elsewhere on the map in relative position to the general sphere, you are allowed. As long as you provide valid backstory as precedent to your decision.
Image provided is the portions of land claimed so far. Do not be alarm, /∞/'s borders is a rough estimate of where their island will be placed. They are not a Borg Cube.

>>17767181
a few typos, and you should merge your pic with the one you referenced, maybe have a single image with 4 parts, one for climate, one for general territory, one for specific territory, and maybe one for something else if we find something else to put there.

>>17767181
I’m just dropping this thing from /uuu/ a couple days ago and leaving, not too interested in lore autism.
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/thread/17442097/#17445166

>>17767181
Yeah I got your invite
What the fuck is this autism?!

>>17767949
Do you like maps?

>>17767949
we are trying to make a world map to represent /vt/, pretty much. in the future, you could have role playing sessions like what you have in /tg/ or what not, but right now we are trying to figure out the territories. we would prefer it if the size of the nation vaguely represented the size/popularity of threads, but at this point we just want things to get started already. if you are from a thread, you can talk to them and try to contribute. so far we have flags, greentext/loreposts, and territories that you can work towards.

>>17768195
Can you post an example of a lore greentext to elucidate what that means

>>17768322
i am pretty sure this was the first greentext, back when the thread was just starting. /meat/ also has a cool looking flag, and they have already claimed an area in the neutral territory. if you want i can post both of those.

>>17767181
one thing that'd help for building /vsj/'s lore is to know how /hlgg/ describes its /jp/ origin. after the first few weeks of chaos on /vt/ and the ""great"" /nyan/ """debate""" threads, /vsj/ was formed by anons from /aco/'s /pmg/ thread -- which nicely mirrors /hlgg/'s /jp/ origin. the only major difference is that /pmg/ is still pretty active today, though with a slightly different culture than the one that we developed on /vt/.

>>17767181
The confession thread wants a vatican city microstate with a grand cathedral.
Preferably in an intersection of Niji and Holo spheres

>>17767181
I think /yah/ should be between the JP and Western indie continents as Beatani is JP but has a mostly western audience. I would choose humid continental as the climate but there isn't a zone for it in an appropriate location.

>>17769135
Oh and it should be an island

>>17769135
there is a place that doesn't look like japan but it is, hokkaido.

>>17769170
there is a small island between the two, and a larger region that is humid subtropical in the jp area, all we would need to do is remove the landbridge and it's an island.

>>17769092
the neutral regions between holo and niji are in contest, you can have embassies anywhere you want, though, so you can just pick an area and set up embassies in whatever region will have you.

>>17767181
Moshi moshi, niji desu. Our JP thread is pretty slow so I don't know if we have any anons that would be dedicated enough to keep this map updated with you guys. Heck I don't even know if we still have anons that have been here from the beginning of the board. Did the NijiEN general decline your invite?

>>17767181
Prisuners here some reference of Risu nation should look like.

>>17769308
Hokkaido like would be cool, she loves it and there is an inside joke that her fans will commit mass suicide there on a bus tour.

>>17769362
>there is a small island between the two, and a larger region that is humid subtropical in the jp area, all we would need to do is remove the landbridge and it's an island
sounds ok

>>17769824
which one?

>>17769839
With the land bridge removed.

>>17769891
we had someone who made maps. idk what happened to him, but idk how to do it. if you could edit this image to show your territory (and edit the map so it's an island, in this case) that might make it easier. if you have a program, you could probably just click the color of the sea and paint over the area that connects them.

same goes for anyone else, try to find the most updated maps and add your territory to it

>>17767181
>>17746303
Good day. I am a humble scribe of Infinitopia, here to represent /∞/. I have written a comprehensive history of our nation, having discussed it and taken into account the suggestions of other Kronies for a more collaborative and agreed-upon timeline.

>https://rentry.org/28ccs

This takes into account older, conflicting lore in the OP and tries to meld them together to create something more unified and, hopefully, easier to read. Some events do not line up 100% with reality, and others were shortened or expanded for ease of reading. I hope you all enjoy this and this helps put an end to the confusing suggestions by Kronies in the past.

Thank you kindly.

>>17769891
we had someone who made maps. idk what happened to him, but idk how to do it. if you could edit this image (>>17765778) to show your territory (and edit the map so it's an island, in this case) that might make it easier. if you have a program, you could probably just click the color of the sea and paint over the area that connects them.

same goes for anyone else, try to find the most updated maps and add your territory to it

>>17769891
we had someone who made maps. idk what happened to him, but idk how to do it. if you could edit this image (>>17767181) to show your territory (and edit the map so it's an island, in this case) that might make it easier. if you have a program, you could probably just click the color of the sea and paint over the area that connects them.

same goes for anyone else, try to find the most updated maps and add your territory to it

>>17770198
great work, but didn't you want to make your own island because you wanted it to be a frozen biome? did you guys change your mind?

>>17770330
It's a little quick and dirty but here it is.

>>17767181
don't particularly care for this, here's the only entry from /who/
https://archive.wakarimasen.moe/vt/thread/16980361/#16988212
these are our 2 claims, one or the other work for us

>>17770686
that's great. you can also make some lore for your thread like >>17770198 and >>17768455, or talk with your thread to make a flag if you want. or you could help catalog all the other territories if you want to help us out a bit.

>>17770431
unfortunately, i am just a writer. i am a complete geographylet and many people both here and in /∞/ corrected my old suggestion. many said that it'd the lower two islands would be more temperate, leaning on cold, while the top island would be colder and snowy. here is map edit to maybe better reflect a nicer geography. if this is good i'll also edit the renty link to include this image

>>17770806
It's getting late for me tonight but I'll work on something tomorrow. Sounds like a cool project. Are there any examples of what you're looking for lore-wise?

>>17770862
i forgot my pic...

>>17770868
Never mind it was is your post lol

>>17770868
/meat/ and /∞/ have been making some of the better lore posts, unfortunately, as the op shows, the link of threads was broken a while ago (also, anyone who can sift through and get all the lore from the previous thread, that would be great.) this >>17768455 and pic related are from /meat/. the rentry link from /∞/ here >>17770198 and the archived /who/ wakarimasen link here >>17770686 are good examples to strive towards.

I think /ccu/ and /uoh/ should be neighboring Nations.

>>17771122
>>17770198
/infinity/'s autism scares me

>>17771750
the weak should fear the strong.

>>17771750
during the break arc, kronii (obviously) wasn't streaming the whole week
/∞/ remained the second most active thread behind /hlgg/ despite that
autism... is a force of nature

>>17771724
i guess we decided that >>17436688 would be the zones we would stick to for the beginning stages. you can have embassies anywhere, and the neutral regions are a conflict zone so it's up for grabs.

>>17771750
>>17771786
/∞/ vs /meat/ war lessgoooo

>>17771857
there's a prominent writefag in /∞/ who has written kronii (and mumei) cannibalism... we've been infiltrated before /meat/ even began...

>>17771879
that's neat, we've had cannibals in /who/ since the first month

>>17771857
yukkroni would suggest to me that /meat/ would have a few cultists in /∞/, so you might be allies, or any attempt at war would just result in some high official suddenly disapearing.

>>17771936
the "berry" eaters, right? truly, kronies and hoomans share one struggle.

>>17771879
This
There's a crossover between /infinity/ and /who/ users
And coincidentally, both gens have cannibalism fetishists
/meat/'s foundation didnt came out of the blue

reminder that /meat/ lower class are barbarians/vikings/pirates, and that the higher class are cultists secretly pulling strings like hannibal lector or the white glove society.

>>17771963
yeah, eventually the berry eaters got convinced by the more conventional cannibals to tone it down a bit, i'm fairly sure disembowel anon still posts in /who/

>>17767181
Ahoy should be on a coastal region close by to wherever you decide to put the fetish thread, maybe an island. I can't edit images right now but I'll get an edit in sometime tonight

>>17746303
>CURRENT GOAL: finalization of the map (redrawing so it is no longer patchwork-y).
>10000 hours in photoshop later
Did you guys mean something like this? I did my best to erase the grid lines from the northern continent and do some color correction to match the other land masses.
full size https://files.catbox.moe/tmj935.png

>>17772459
that looks pretty good. there were once 4 entirely separate maps that we combined into this one, which was why it looked a bit strange. i don't see any of that on your edit. good job. with that being said, i'm pretty sure >>17770904 is in a different position from where it was originally, and >>17770686 removed the land bridge near the area they wanted to go, so the map might be a bit different. i'm sorry to ask you to change any of it after you did so much already, but if you have the time, and don't mind updating the map, it would help a lot.

>>17767181
Request from Rushia thread
they want the stormiest area
https://de.catbox.moe/0bzqbf.png
According to climate anon, it would be the...
flatlands between two continents on the east
You cant make this shit up!

>>17773117
Or this

>>17773200
i was just going to say that.

>>17772588
No worries, that's relatively simple to edit.
https://files.catbox.moe/5eedcq.png

>>17773327
wow. you're quick. thank you very much. will you be coming here often? if so, we have been looking for someone to help get all the territories in order. we'll have to look through the archives to find the places that were already claimed, but besides that, all we have left to do is fill up the map with territories, would you be willing to help with that?

>>17773438
I'm not too well-versed in a lot of the generals here, so I don't know how much I can help with overall placement, but if people already have a general idea of where they want things to go then I don't mind helping out with labelling the map.

How much shit and piss do yall think chuubas consume on average?
Like, is there a superchat amount where they'd let me fart in their mouths?

>>17773831
The Suisei general wants an island, with mountains and a comet that fell from the sky. I don't remember more details, would need to check the archives

>>17767181
>>17772150
I enjoy autistic things like this so I made a flagpost with some base idea a little while ago
>>17217469
I was waiting for another heimin or gen 4 to talk about broader ideas, because imo generation 4 has certain calamities that I would be interested to see in a collaborative light. Especially the kson thread.

If lore moves purely as a reflection of threads and not real life though, I'd have to scrap that as we don't have much in common otherwise.

>>17773831
that would be great. >>17770686 is the most updated in terms of territory, so if you could add that first it might be good. not sure if rushia is going with >>17773200 or >>17773117 so we should let them decide that, but once they have an answer you can put that in. >>17765778 claimed the bottom area, so if you could add that it would be good. desu i can barely see the /meat/ territory so you might want to recolor it. besides that, we would have to go to the archives to find places. >>17746303 has some dead links that we could look through in the archives. wakarimasen seems to be a good resource for it. i am not sure if i want to do that at the moment, so we can just wait for another time i guess.

>>17772017
God fuck that flag scared me

>>17774612
are you the same anon who keeps saying that, or are people actually scared of a flag? i mean, when you know what the flag is supposed to be made of, it might be a bit creepy, but otherwise it's just a flag.

>>17774705
It's my first time seeing that flag

>>17774766
if you say so, i guess. there was a guy who commented that a little while after seeing the flag, but whatever.

>>17769891
I think the land connecting Holo and Niji lands should be /#/.
Borders are typically where most of the "conflict" starts (in this case people getting bait posts), and where most of the shitflinging happens. Also the place that can unite the two kingdoms in times of peril (CCVID).

>>17774856
> territory proposal
if no land bridge, can be the small ports where trade between the two kingdoms happens.
If there's no land bridge, most conflicts can be from "ships" which can also involve actual "ships" and "shippers".

>>17774856
fyi, embassies can be anywhere. otherwise everyone will want that area between holo and niji and it will be chaotic.

>>17775141
yeah but this proposal is from the meta of most minor conflicts emerging from number analysis that happens in /#/, matching the usual situation in contested borders.
Do any of the other generals have a better claim?

>>17775210
i don't quite know why that would put /#/ between them. you can get them to fight without being right inside the war zone. pretty sure /#/ had some lore from the past, actually. not sure if they made any claims, though.

>>17775314
hmm. Well it's just another idea for consideration. We can discuss it once the regular folks wake up.

>>17775365
ok.

>>17767181
Writing from 総長 + 会長 (kson/coco).
>reimagined as rival nations fighting bitter battles for the glory of their oshis.
I lack the combination of creativity and autism to lead this initiative, or fully adapt it into a "lore", but I can share some thread history, thread culture and provide some rough ideas.
Our thread spent many months, with multiple distinct waves of being invaded by people more interested in drama than our oshi. It culminated in us removing english from the title, and seeding the catalog with secondary, intentional bait threads to lure the dramashitters away, for several months. At this point there is a "thread discipline" which is to just ignore anyone who say stupid shit and is not obviously a regular.

Geographically:
It makes sense (to me) for us to be an island between the Hololive sphere and the Indie sphere. I like the idea of the dual/twin islands, representing the two lives of our positive, lovable bitch, and her big round butt.

Culturally:
Owing to the months of adaptation to outsiders, it makes sense (again just to me) for us to have a very friendly, diplomatic leader/government who is willing to collab with everyone (because she is), but an isolationist people who just want to be left alone.

Maybe this is something to go on, maybe not. I don't have the time or dedication to join this project as a regular. If someone else from our thread wants to take lead instead, I defer to them, but at least this is an initial idea.

is anyone still here?

>>17777658
yes, feel free to drop your thread's lore, claim a land or describe your thread's nation.
See: >>17767181

>>17777988
i was just asking to see.

>>17767181
The NijiEN generals - /yeah/, /rose/, /HAHA/, /lux/ and Lazulight, which surprisingly enough has no search tag, should be right next to each other. Perhaps Petra-Anya-Global could somehow connect them to the neighbourhood of HoloID/NijiID related generals.
>inb4 what about the /NijiEN/ general
this one is unironically hated by all of those splits. Everybody knows that you don't go there if you unieonically want to discuss NijiEN... so yeah this could perhaps be right next to those, but seperated by a mountain range or something.

>>17778175
>/nijiEN/ is despised by its splits and is not good for genuine discussion
>/hlgg/ is despised by its splits and is not good for genuine discussion
WE ARE

>>17778294
Not too different, you and I.

Bump

>>17767181
/akushio/ poster here. I guess I can let my autism out for a bit.

>History of our thread
The first thread was made in late August 2021. Before that we had the separate 湊あくあ and 紫咲シオン threads, but both of them suffered from being too slow for this board as well as attacks by schizos and rrats running around. The merge made sense since there's a certain overlap between the fanbases and our oshi are good friends.
We started out as /akushion/, but renamed to /akushio/ a few months ago.
I guess lore-wise this would translate to two weakened allied states forming a federation to protect themselves from outside attacks, 湊あくあ being the larger of the two.

>Thread culture
Despite the merge, Aqua crew generally talk about Aqua and Shiokkos generally talk about Shion without a lot of shared posting. This is because our oshi mostly interact behind the scenes. I would say generally 2/3 of the thread is Aquaposting and 1/3 is Shionposting, but it varies depending on who streams. The tone is mostly serious compared to some other generals.
Aqua has had a difficult year in 2021, streaming less and focussing more on idol stuff than gaming which occasionally lead to arguments between Aqua crew in the thread.
Shion tends to have periods of depreshion where she doesn't stream a lot and posts on her roommate's fanbox which sometimes leads to concernposting by Shiokkos.

>Relation with other threads
I don't know if we share a lot of posters with other threads.
I guess Shion and Aqua have some presence in the coomer threads, particularly Shion in /uoh/.
/#/ likes it when Aqua gets big numbers and calls her Nijikiller.
Some Shiokkos sought refuge in the saviorfag thread for Delta & friends before /akushion/ was a thing, but I think that relation died pretty quickly.

>Random events
Sometimes some shipposter or /ggg/fag comes to the thread to say AkuShio is a dead pairing or Shion is Gura's wife, but they mostly get ignored after being told that /akushio/ is not a ship thread.
Occasionally someone proposes to add Ayame to the thread since manjigumi used to be a thing and Ayamefags don't have their own thread, but a lot of posters are against it because it would attract shitposters and Aqua and Shion don't have a lot of connection to Ayame anymore.

>Location
Not sure about location, there's a few factors here if it's based on the holos themselves.
Other holo's they would be relatively close to are Okayu, Subaru, Marine and Nene.
It would make sense for the Aqua part to be a naval state with somewhat easy access to JP indie lands because of her connection to Norio and Mea.
For the Shion part I keep thinking about her Minecraft house which is an ice house on top of a hill and her 3D stage which is a sort of wizard tower with a telescope. So I'm thinking about a cold, mountain-y place.
Based on this, the top-right or the mountains near the middle bay of the holo continent seem like a good spot to go, but that's just a proposal.

>>17775045
>half the straits are controlled by /nasfaqg/
>other half of the straits are controlled by /#/
Poetry.

Bump

Bump

>>17767181
ok, so answering to your invitation >>17768688
personally i don't have the time to provide fictional lore, flags or other stuff you want, i don't know if somebody else already talked about Luna and Lunaitos, but if you want to know about the Luna thread, i can entertain you a little, if it's works with you and your world building.
For starters we actually don't call the thread /nna/, or general, that's just a zoom zoom thing recently, most of us just call it the Himemori Luna thread, back when vtubers only belonged to /jp/ in 2020, there was the sporadic Luna thread that wouldn't even reach 100 post and die, but it begun to gain traction around december when the 2nd holofes happened.
>>/jp/thread/S31132176
>>/jp/thread/S31349206
Later when /vt/ started, it was one of the first threads and the last to die, it lasted for 8 days.
>>/vt/thread/S31927
In regards to Lunaitos, there is an amalgamation of young and adult audience, but is mostly adult (20-45 y/o) both male/female, compared to other shubas we are not as many, but most of us are pretty loyal and dedicated to the Princess, some of us like her because of her taste in games, the way she sings, how she is different from other Shuubas, her electone, her sense of humor and chemistry and how she interacts with the holos, some like ecchi/loli stuff, but she is hardly a loli and more of a daughter, because men not only have the instinct of reproduction, but also the instinct to provide, protect and care, all men have a familial need for their own in their dna.
But those who have watched Luna long enough, knows that Luna is far from perfect, unlike many holos, she is in fact actually very flawed in many ways, despite all of that she works really hard in her own way, with the numbers of mengen or stream in general, and that strongly resonnates with anons here and in 5ch that specifically chose to post and interact on anonymous boards for a reason, that is exactly why, even if she is one of the least suscribed holos, unlike others that needs to fuse with other generals to survive, has a solid fanbase that won't let her thread die.

In regards to your map, i suggest you to include Candy Kingdom as a country and one of the founders of /vt/, relatively small with strong natural borders, high mountains, valleys and rivers and well protected, similar to Switzerland.
>>17765778
>figures. we need to get people who are interested enough in world building to keep this thread alive
try to change the pic and description, just a map is not eye candy.

>>17788431
Luknight, check here for old lore and flags from Ame in the AM's holoworld >>17747526 maybe they can be of help

Stop trying to create new islands or making other changes to the map. It's lazy, and if we went along with that bullshit the map will turn into an archipelago with every general being their own island, which defeats the whole fucking point of this.
I think it would be better if people weren't yet allowed to make land claims, since everyone is a faggot who wants their general to be on an island, and instead they can request what climate and maybe who they want to neighbor, and then have other anons get to decide what the borders of the different nations look like.

>>17790948
Ok. I want a volcano, a meteor that landed and mountains for observatories for the Suisei general. All of this in a bay

>>17792483
>I want
I forgot to start with the "but"

>>17790948
/meat/ deserves its island spot since they kicked everything off but everyone else can go fuck themselves

still compiling lore shit, realizing it might take longer than previously thought.
I'm using screenshots and catbox links so if anyone wants to put those down to help it'd be appreciated. I've got meat done I think?

>>17790948
Nah fuck that

>>17792597
You do realize that oceans aren't the only geographical obstacle? Mountains, hills, rivers, lakes, narrow land bridges, forests, jungles, different climates, etc. are all great ways for isolating nations from each other. There's no fucking reason that your specific general needs to be an island unless they're specifically naval themed, like if they have an aquatic themed chuuba, or they're trade oriented like /Nasfaqg/.
A tribe of cannibals like /meat/ would fit better in some mountains rather than some island where they would be easily wiped out by a naval power.

>>17793033
Stop being lazy and uncreative.

>>17793073
Theyre vikings anon
They pillage costal cities for women as sacrifices for their guro chuuba gods

>>17793288
Even less of a reason for them to be on an island since most Vikings didn't live on islands.
If you really wanted them to be Vikings then they just need to be along the coast with mountains on the other side to reflect Norway, or on any peninsula to reflect Denmark.
Muh island is an excuse for lazy faggots who think their general is super speshul and deserves to be separate from everyone else and waste time changing the base map which would ruin all the effort that the climate anon put in.

>>17794518
>>17793288
>island
They have a river some mainland >>17767181

If Idols are like the gods of this world, are they physical or spiritual beings? Is there a twenty foot tall Kronii or Suisei chilling on a throne in their general’s country, or is it more abstract? Is there a place like mount olympus where all the idols exist?

>>17795916
This world is /vt/ so we're pretty much ignored by the gods
The only relevancy we have with chuuba Asgard is that /asp/ spits out new gods, gods like Pippa and Kiki who live here, and there are gods who lurk around here like Risu and Lumi

>>17796321
So maybe this: Idols live up on Chuuba Mountain, in their own society that is nourished by our love and devotion, whether they know/care or not. /asp/ idols and 2views are like demigods, stronger than mortals but unable to foster the devotion to take on a godly form and ascend the mountain, either mingling in with us or in their own group at the base of the mountain, waiting to be chosen.

>>17794518
1) /meat/ has never changed geographical locations. in fact, the first region we had was given to us by the anon why made the first map.
2) the reason it's an island is because it's a containment area after we lost the first war with /ahoy/. other places want to be le special snowflake island, but we got some small region in the middle of the sea not to keep others from us, but to keep us from everyone else.
3) /meat/ has been here from the beginning. if anyone has a claim to an island region, it would be /meat/
just my opinion. honestly, we might fair better in a different region, but we have decided upon this, so i think it should stay.

>>17795916
i overwhelmingly support the realms idea that one anon came up with. they can be physical or abstract, and they can have more or less influence on our realm, and it also allows for an explanation for where all the demonic hordes of trolls and shills come from.... the reddit realm.

>>17788431
>try to change the pic and description, just a map is not eye candy.
I second this, maybe start adding color on claimed territories and flags if available on them.
>>17767181
sort of like this with flags on it and in the legend

Luknight Land Claim, nanora. Happy to have sea trade routes with the Kronies, as long as they can use their time powers to get out-of-production sweets for our hime.

>>17799054
You could also have an unrelated but flashy picture custom-made for the OP (/nasfaqg/ style), and have the current map as the first image in response to it.

could OPchama give me a few suggestions for /vsj+/'s land claim? i'm aware we're supposed to be on the western whores island and that we can have a lot of land due to our size, but I'm afraid to ask for too much

>>17799575
There is no 'OP' in the form of a singular artistic anon who coordinates it, it's more of a collaborative project. Make the claim, and if it's too big other anons should point it out or correct it down the line if there isn't enough space for other western vtubers.

>>17767181
I'll update this tomorrowish if I have the chance. Preferably with some proper colors

>>17799661
would this be good or too much?

things we at least have to fit (ordering by how related the themes are):
- silver's sakura realm
- haruka's forest
- nyan's temple & forbidden lands (think bloodborne)
- froot's crypts
- mouse city (little kaezer's pikza pizzeria, apartment complexes)
- snuffy's trashy ghetto
- mel's science labs & related facilities

???:
- no one unironically likes hime, give her a small island of cringe i guess
- most zenfags are twitchtard tourists I don't really want to represent, i have no clue how to address that
- waiting on vei's lore drop to know what her theme should be, but also a lot of us kind of hate her at the moment for stupid shit she's been doing, so again not sure what to do

>>17795916
The people of vt world occasionally see the streams in the form of hours-long visions. With special plants native to your oshi's country, most visions can be had on demand, but some cannot, and more visions can only be done to those who have made a ritual sacrifice to their oshi (membership).

In addition, sacrifices can be used to communicate with the divine beings (superchats), and certain artefacts allow for us to directly interact with their world, or for them to temporarily materialize in ours.

>>17800253
Oi, /ppg/ already claimed a part of this land
>>17387465
>>17443185
*most eastern (dark green) area

>>17801305
so our land would be mostly deserts and mountain? i guess that's fine for constructing cities and such, but we need a good place for haru/silver's forest. suppose we'll make do with the northern rainforest.

>>17801259
Ah, okay, that makes a lot of sense. Thanks, Anon.

gonna expand a bit more to the west to deal with /ppg/'s claim, hopefully that part isn't taken by other western corpos
as to actual indies I'm fairly sure only /lig/ needs to have territory, they're very recent and a lot smaller than /vsj/

>>17770198
Just so you know, this was written by a chumbud groomer.

>>17802963
As in, someone who grooms only Chumbuds, or a Chumbud who grooms others?

>>17802963
That doesn't change anything. Go back to Twitter with your moralfaggotry

>>17774227
I think I'll wait to see what >>17800067 comes up with since some of the colors are too similar for me to tell who goes where. It might be a good idea for someone to compile a list of which generals are going to be involved and any geography, climate, or neighbor requests they've made. In the meantime, here's a blank version of the map in case that makes plotting territory easier.

>>17805447
And have another version with some of the terrain marked for figuring out borders.

>>17805447
>>17805514
Looks nice

>>17805514
its lacking some mountains. Those are the highest ones but there are more

>>17805447
>>17805514
ty very much. these are really cool!

>>17770198
>your goddess is in pain
what will kronies do?

More than anything else we need to compile a bunch of data on the different generals. Something like a public spreadsheet would be useful.
All we really need is basic info, like average IP count, their corp. affiliation, what chuuba(s) or fetish(es) they focus on, and how active they are (average post count). Then if they have lore we could have that linked as well.
If we could gather enough data, we could start making nation borders for all the generals, and then sort out the border details afterwards. Otherwise if things continue as they are, we're going to end up with a bunch of empty continents and random fucking islands everywhere.

>>17806581
I definitely agree. I think that this thread is at a point where some artistic direction can be taken, as in, few dedicated anons could try to centralize the ideas that were formulated anonymously.
I like the idea of a bunch of people doing something together, but when facing something that is a larger project, there has to be at least a coordinator or coordinators to steer it and make decisions that are very simple individually (i.e. zoning) but extremely hard to decide on a mongolian basket weaving forum.

>>17807081
Tripfaggotry might be the solution

>>17807608
Tripcodes were basically created for this purpose. There's a stigma around them, but there is a limitation to the organization level you can achieve anonymously rather than pseudonymously, think HFZ with OP/DarkOP or Nasfaq with its Game Devs.

>>17803041
Chumbud who grooms others.

Alright, having at least one person agreeing will be enough for me to start compiling the data. However I've already run into an issue, which is that the archives just give a question mark for the IP count.
My plan was to calculate average IP using the number of IP's for the most recent 5 threads of each general, but instead I might have to calculate some form of activity amount based on the number of posts and the speed at which it took for each thread to die.

>>17807081
>>17807608
>>17807729
I'm willing to do the heavy lifting for this, since I fucking love spreadsheets and worldbuilding and mapmaking, but the issue with me doing this is that I'm very new to /vt/ and vtubers in general. There is the upside that it means that I'm more neutral than probably anyone else, since I mostly just care about making aesthetically pleasing borders, but I obviously won't be well versed in /vt/ lore without people providing that info to me.

>>17808142
Wakarimasen archives the number of IPs I think. Nyafuu doesn't

>>17808219
Thank you, this will be very helpful.

>>17808142
It's fine to admit that you don't know everything, I don't think there's a single anon that would be able to handle the lore and happenings of every single split. Feel free to ask around, anons seem to be generally supportive and willing to share history and lore of their threads.

>>17808363
Mind you. Wakarimasen also has really invasive ads, I recommend an adblock

>>17808142
having an anon dedicated to the world building side is great. i was hoping for an unambiguous party to show up, as without one, arbitration would become increasingly difficult. as >>17808219 mentioned, wakarimasen is a great resource for this, however, it is worth noting that you wont find every world building thread just by typing /vtwbg/. the first thread was named something different, but i am sure you can get access to the first thread since there are links from any thread that lead there. thank you very much for your willingness to this thread.

>>17808412
>>17808582
Alright, since I'm getting positive feedback I'll work on this project and use a trip.
>>17808578
No worries, I already was using an adblocker.

>>17809063
You have a typo on the tripcode but it's more unique and cute that way tbqh

>>17809355
I always make that specific typo for the word neutral for some reason. Oh well, no point in changing it.
Anyway, I'm working on a google sheets for now, and once I've made some reasonable progress I'll share to spreadsheet for you guys to view.

Is something like this like what you're looking for? I'd have to clear it with the general first.

>>17810292
Well this is nice. going beyond just greentext. Goodluck with your general's go signal.

Can any anons give me advice on making a flag? I have some ideas for design, but picking colors that don’t look like garbage is proving impossible. We’re looking for tropical colors here.

>>17815873
light blues and a shield could work

>>17815873
Make it simple, there's a post about this previously.

bump.

I've lurked here a bit and saw that you posted in my oshi's thread a while back so I figured I should write something more substantial than the one in the OP for /towa/.
I'm not sure how to really go about this for listing what is needed/desired so I'll just list out some things about the thread and general culture for /towa/ and Towa herself with her connections for future placement.
For the most basic thing of thread culture for /towa/ would be the typical cycle the thread goes through of menhera posting -> horny posting -> watching streams -> general discussion and repeating through this cycle, it's fairly on the Nose... for how the thread consistently acts.
The thread also frequently discusses other FPS chuubas including Nijis/VSPO/whoever plays APEX so a placement near the VSPO/FPS place would be apt. There's also some refugees from Nun Bora (NijiKR) and Sio (fat ass) who remain in the thread as well.
But the other predicament about this, is that Towa herself is fairly well connected with other members of Hololive, I would list them out but it's plentiful as well, on top of being part of Gen 4 who she is also close with.
For more generic thread culture, it would be the heavy prevalence of ellipsis posting (Towa...) that will often appear in the thread as well. There's also consistent offstream APEX tracking as well.
For more numerical information about the thread, it varies from 35-50ish IPs consistently, and there hasn't been a thread that's died early on /vt/ for nearly a year now with every thread hitting bump limit, so I'd like to say it's a fairly successful/active thread, especially for JP chuubas. Threads last 1 day to 2 days, depending on streams or any menhera posts.
Feel free to place where ever you anons seem fit, I'll answer the questions I can if you'd like to know more.

>>17821355
source?
Love it, has the same energy as pic rel.

>>17824466
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/95420671
Don't forget to stream her EP.

>>17815873
Here's some quick pointers
>>17157184
And here's a full guide
>>17156647

>>17821355
This has nothing to do with lore or this general but the Towa thread is the cutest Holo split ever

>>17831552
cute is the strangest word i've ever seen used to describe it

>>17756319
>>17770330
Im here. Was busy the whole week

>>17801702
>>17802035
KEK! I joked before how the driest desert would go to vshojo anons because youre thirsty af
And you actually did it!

Map anon here
Alright I did some border changes and modifications
/yah/ has simple demands so I created a new hilly island in the same climate zone where theoretically it would be like Ireland on the east and Hokkaido on the west
/ppg/ can get the entire coastal rainforest
/tsun/ gets the southern subtropics
/vsj+/ gets the entire highlands except for the deathlands

>>17834429
>he made an entire new island for the dads
Bless you

>>17832525
i mean it's not what i'd have liked (and I'm really not thirsty for them, I just find them funny and cute), but it's what we get for signing up so late

>>17835533
>>17834429
Whacha think of mapbro's proposal?

>>17767181
Nyahallo~ 35p from the Miko general
It doesn't seem like there's too many people interested over there. I got some ideas for a flag, but I've been sent as a delegate to essentially keep the worldbuilding autism contained to here. That said, other than being autistic enough to be into it, I'm not good at worldbuilding (art, mapmaking, lore) so it'll be rough.
Pic related is our claim (I'm an artlet pls be kind). In the middle is a 1.8km tall/(however many km that secondary orange part corresponds to) long shield-type volcano, that is moderately active. The ash-enriched soil surrounding the volcano enhances plant growth, with rich forests at the N and W petals, and fertile farmlands in the E, SE and SW ones. You'll notice I've modified the area around it compared to the original map to fit the volcano, not sure if that's ok.
Sakuran(さく欄) is a Theocracy, with the translators being the revered priests delivering the Shrine Maiden's words to the people. Shikemura is the capital, has the highest population and is responsible for the maintenance of the vast farmlands of the two south petals. Elytree is the country's connection to the western and northern parts of the continent, as it exports timber and minerals collected from the volcanic area and the mountainous area of the N petal through the river to nearby countries. Not many people live here, however, as, other than resource collection, there's not much to do. Most visitors will continue on towards Shikemura to marvel at the shrines built in honor to our maiden, or towards the tourist hotspot that is Los Faqtos. Los Faqtos is the industrial and tourism centre of the country, with beautiful sandy beaches on the northern part of the coast, and a bustling port on the south, as well as an industrial area to the west. Multiple trade routes pass through here, mostly to other Holo-associated countries. Material collected from Elytree are transported to Los Faqtos, processed, and then either used locally or sent to Shikemura to be used in building projects.
I had made this https://files.catbox.moe/p0tm9e.png flag, but after reading >>17829067 I made this one https://files.catbox.moe/vnrwz4.png (sakura blossom is lq because I can't find the original flower). I welcome feedback on this matter.
>>17809063
I've also collected data from the past 10 threads (excluding the one up right now) in here https://files.catbox.moe/5w1jt6.xlsx, hopefully they can be of use.
Regarding possible bordering nations, suggestions would be: Korone, Mio, Shuba, Pekora, Sora, Flare, (Coco if it still existed). I believe the Suisei general said they wanted to be an island, so that saves us a bit of trouble. On that note, regarding the request for lore expansion for PekoMiko/Micomet in the OP, this can be incorporated. Assuming Pekorand's only access to Mikoran is through sea, the micomet general can be an island contested by both pekomiko and micomet threads, as *ships* would have to pass by it to get Mikoran's port. Seeing as micomet general has come on top so far, we can say that the island is under their rule. Discussion of either ship is frowned upon in our thread, so any 35p participating in the battles can be considered pirates or mercenaries.
Other than this, I'm not sure how to go about writing lore for the general itself. I'd love to hear some ideas, though I'm not sure I'm invested enough to actually go through the process of writing it.

>>17834429
Autistic geography nerd here from /vsj+/. Wouldn't it be cool if you used this twitch overlap map as a reference for the geography of the VShojo+ confederation or whatever you want to call it. All the chuubas here can be like "states"

>>17836630
It cant since this world is a reflection of /vt/, not the streamers and their own fanbase as a whole
The country is defined by the anons and shitposts they made in their thread, not off-site and official chuuba stories
>>17836090
Suisei thread anon said it's okay to be on the mainland. >>17792483

>>17835914
I think it's fine, but I'm not sure if we're getting shorted land-wise. How much activity is there to the west of the island, how much of it is claimed? I don't want to increase our claim just for the sake of it, but do keep in mind we're a pretty big thread and it's about to get bigger once gunrun stops sucking cock and debuts the new girls

>>17836730
also just to avoid confusions, >>17836630 is a seperate autist, not me

>>17836708
i asume /vsj+/ will be like mexico because everyone hates us and we are the scum of the earth on this board with our shitty western whores

>>17836804
oh fuck off with your inferiority complex anon, if that's the sort of energy you're bringing to a general /vt/ event you'd do better just to stay in the general. ill help out when I wake up tomorrow.

>>17836708
>>17836090
Yeah just to clear up some confusion, the worldbuilding is /vt/ and its anons. Not the chuuba community as a whole
So you dont have to 100% depend on the chuuba's lore and activities themselves. Theyre in their own godly realm far away from us. Anya-Petra is an example
IRL: Chuuba A and Chuuba B are in separate agencies, indifferent or hate each other
/vt/: Anons who are fans of Chuuba A and B are friendly with each other and even share drawfriends.
Then the lore of the country is based on the /vt/ community.

Just put /vsj/ and other western Twitch stuff in a secluded part of the map where they're somwehat peaceful but degenerate like America. Also /lig/ is on the verge of being eaten by /vsj/ so I dunno what to do with that.

>>17837110
/lig/ is an independent city of /wvt/
Think of it like San Marino and Italy
Or the Regency of Carnaro Fiume

>>17837378
Why is it that your independence is being challenged?

>>17837378
Nah it's more like Ukraine, half of it gets discussed on vsj while the other wants a separate thread from wvt. Most of the big chuubas in lig can be found in vsj too.

Bump

>>17836090
Where would be the country on the map? Someone should put coordinates to it so people can easily search for it

Bump

/ahoy/ should probably include a few islands, right?

also, lore-wise, maybe you could have some lone hermit that reappears periodically to represent You-Know-Who.

>>17849160
Islands are overrated
If youre a maritime power what you need is a naval crossroad
One where everyone is forced to go through
Like the Mediterranean, Bosporus, Red Sea, Panama

>>17849249
There's a lot of straits in the hololive side. It's the lower eastern side, right?

>>17850693
Those ones are taken by /nasfaqg/ and /#/ sadly
But! The middle region between the two continents is open. It's a natural trade gyre like the mediterranean

>>17756319
>>17770330
I'm still here. just waging and doing /hfz/ stuff. will try something today

Bump

Tried my hardest to make a /vsj+/ flag. Obviously heavily inspired by The Quaternion Eagle of the confederation, The Holy Roman Empire. I figured that's the closest to what the /vsj+/ community is. All flags included are listed here in order from left to right:

>1
Vienna
>2
Saruei
>3
Froot/Apricot
>4
Haruka Karibu (autistic waifu material)
>5
Projekt Melody
>6
Hime Hajime
>7
Anny
>8
Silvervale
>9
Veibae
>10
Nyatasha Nyanners
>11
Connor/CDawgVA
>12
Ironmouse
>13
Snuffy
>14
Zentreya

>>17846046
Not sure if you meant something like this? https://files.catbox.moe/1y3ptm.png
I thought the location was obvious to be frank
Also yeah, longitude/latitude lines and coordinates would be cool

>>17799123
>in order to protect from pirates, some ships hire Luknights to hide aboard the crew in exchange for sugars and sweets

>>17854313
That's a pretty damn good map

>>17856409
>>17746303
>FLAG POSTS:

Am i doing something wrong? Is this thread only for maps? newfag here

>>17854313
>Saru
>C*nnor
fucking ruined, start over

>>17857517
Both are considered /vsj+/ by the majority of our thread. I personally hate saruei more than anyone else. My final wish in life would be to personally murder her in cold blood. But i have to represent /vsj+/. Not my personal opinion of what /vsj+/ should be.

>>17857665
She belongs in /log/, she's not a plus. Neither is Vienna. I think the only ones who are universally considered VSJ+s are the main 8 and the deer & raccoon.

>>17857665
She belongs in /lig/, she's not a plus. Neither is Vienna. I think the only ones who are universally considered VSJ+s are the main 8 + the deer & raccoon.

>>17857784
I agree with you. But saruei posters are still a big demographic in /vsj+/ as long as they exist there. It doesn't matter what me or you think. They are part of /vsj+/ and they are not leaving anytime soon.

I'm really sorry to the people in this thread. I hate shitting up threads like this by arguing about some stupid shit i can just ignore but my ego is very fragile

>>17857974
/lig/ was literally created to solve this problem, anon. only the most dedicated /vsj+/ autists will care about and contribute to this project anyways, we have no obligation to cater to the lowest common denominator.

>>17858103
But that doesn't reflect what /vsj+/ is. It just reflect your idealised version of what /vsj+/ should be. There are currently more frogposters than there are snuffyposters whom you consider "+" VShojo General + in your head is the thread for the VShojo girls and the people they collab with. But that is not what the thread is. There are multiple (sorry if i sound like a faggot writing this but it's the closest thing) ethnicgroups within our thread. These groups don't interact with eachother as one community. Rather there are multiple communities within /vsj+/ like all the Connorposters/shipperposters who try to force weird ships every single thread. And the frootposters who don't even watch froot but just use her reaction pics to roleplay their gay fantasies in our thread (who thanks to jannies have recently been shut down) and we have the frogposters who have still not left our thread. This is what my flag is supposed to represent. If /vsj+/ was a real civilization outside of the internet. It would be a confederacy. A confederacy is basically a bunch of smaller states who aren't directly culturally influenced by eachother and they have their own communities and economies but they are still under 1 country for the benefits like political power and peace between them. Almost like a union rather than a country. This is what The Holy Roman Empire was until the people were united by the Prussians and formed kaizerreich

>>17857278
I'm retarded and thought I said flag when I meant map

/ppg/ bro here and I attempted to make a flag, I tried a few designs but I think this is probably the best one so far. Yeah it's basic but it works.

The 3 lines represent Generation 1 of Prism Project since they started it all

Pink - Iku Hoshifuri
White - Meno Ibuki
Blue - Aoi Tokimori

It's also the colors Prism uses for it's logo but i think they also have duel meanings.

If anyone has a better idea or whatever im all ears

>>17858660
You make a good point. It just rubs me wrong to be forced to represent faggots I hate and that don't belong on the thread or even on the board (the anti-parasocial faggots for instance). I'd rather we put our best foot forward and handwave away all the shitters, but it's a solution that lacks honesty. I just sort of wish we were doing this project some months in the future rather than in this current transitional period. I'd like to imagine the frogshitters will be contained to lig for good, and that the debut of the new girls will create more fanbase autism that brings us closer in spirit to the other generals on the board.

>>17858979
isn't that basically the tranny flag

>>17859034
I wasnt even thinking about that but it does have similar colors.

Also did this as a possible option with the stars representing each talent in it

>>17858992
I feel you. I definately feel the side of your argument more when i'm actually in the thread and not thinking of the worldbuilding shit. I separate them in my head. The different groups of people is actually something i like when i'm doing this worldbuilding shit because it's kind of unique and fun. But when i'm actually trying to watch a chuuba stream with the bros. I see these frootposters talking about giving eachother creampies like when there are 4 chuubas live and these frogposters spamming about how annoying all the frogspergs are and how all soda haters are le parasocial virgins and i just feel the need to take a smoke reading that shit

>>17859376
I'm glad to hear that, though I'd appreciate if you were more vocal about telling these niggers to fuck off. Sometimes I feel like I'm the only anon who truly cares about thread quality. Anyways, as to worldbuilding, I think we can go with your approach, we can make the lore of the groups we dislike rebels, retards or literal tourist agencies. They should also be small and close to /lig/ territory so we can visualize them getting exiled in real time. Vei territory would probably be in a constant state of civil war. And I don't think Connor needs to have a state, he can just be weaved into the lore of Mousey's state. Personally I hate him, but that's an unpopular opinion in the thread.

>>17858979
Wrong shade of blue and pink. Also>>17859034

>>17859202
Problem arises when you consider future number of talents

>>17860150
>Problem arises when you consider future number of talents
Nta but country flags get revised all the time irl as the countries change, you could also make a new flag then

>>17860063
>this is the flag that will be fluttering over soda's dead body

>>17860150
The blue and pink are from the company's logo. I know it wasnt the exact colors of the talents but the general colors could still represent them. I still rather do the other one since tranny flag and as >>17861077 said, i'll just revised it if they add more talents

>>17861235
forgot to link the logo i was talking about. I just took the edges from it since it was a gradient

>>17861103
hell yeah
it'd be less trouble down the line if our flag is just a general symbol and not a list of all the groups we contain, i'm for something like this. that pink is too hot though.

>>17861456
That flag will be the one of when the people have united and the soda and frogfags are dead

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iO5tK2PPSZjFTEE8fbIS8S6bE7af1F6zCGhMZU4oRkE/edit?usp=sharing
I've finally made some decent progress on basic number info for many of the /vt/ generals.
I know I'm still missing some relevant generals, so if you could request that I add them that would be helpful. Also if there's anything incorrect in the sheet I'll change it if anyone requests me to.

>>17861302
Logo already looks good as centerpiece of the flag

>>17862705
>90 average /vsj+/ IPs
damn, I knew it was high these days but not that high, sick.
fun fact, we finally hit the 1.5k post limit (and the image limit) recently for nyan's loredrop & redebut. that thread had about 150 ips. would be nice to have a timeline of all the /vt/ generals that have hit the post limit

>>17862956
I'm just trying to keep it simple, as that good flag/bad flag guide says. If you guys think it's simple enough I can just slap it onto a background and use that

>>17855062
It wasn't that obvious for me
Idk where would be the Suisei general country, it needs mountains and a bay. Probably not close to Sakuran since nothing close to it seems to fulfill the requirements needed for the Suisei general country. This is why I wanted an island, because in my mind it's a naval nation that guides itself by looking at the stars and an island is easier to find/make than a bay

>>17862705
idk if I would call Prism and Kawaii JP corpos. They are based in japan but all the talents mainly speak English. It's different from like Voms or any other JP corp

>>17862705
damn that's cool, i'd love to see the watson general numbers

>>17863313
I put in the numbers for the Amelia Watson appreciation threads I could find, since those were the closest to a general a could find for threads about her.

>>17863644
they all link to each other so it should be relatively easy, Anya-Petra Global would be nice too

>>17863736
The Anya-Petra thread confuses me since they're part of different companies, what caused them to be paired together for a general?

>>17862705
How'd you collect the data? I linked a small collection in >>17836090 for the Miko thread but the numbers differ a bit so I was wondering

>>17863969
Petra threads kept dying, they got invited by melhomies or something like that, i'm not too sure

>>17864693
I basically just took the most recent 5 threads that weren't currently in progress, and I avoided threads that died immediately to better represent the average amounts for a normal thread of that general.

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>>17862705
>missing 'Vspo, Apex, Valorant, and other FPS tubers'
Generally, that's technically the VSPO general, but since they tend to play lots of FPS games and dedicated threads for those die with relative quickness (or are off-topic), they tend to just all hang out in there (some people talk about them in /#/, because numbers is THE 'VTuber general'), it's basically a neutral thread.

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>>17872013
Dump

>>17863081
to update, I did it anyway and kept the stars. Also added the purple gradient like they did in the logo

>>17877800
Nice flag, I like it

Thoughts on this flag for /ag/? I wanted to post it there first to get the thread's opinion but apparently it's dead right now, so I figured I'd get the worldbuilder's opinion.

>>17878579
More contrast and a less eye rape color scheme.

>>17878579
It's nice but the black lines would be better if they weren't tilted

>>17879261
Would it be better if the lines tilted in the other direction? The fact that they’re tilted is symbolic.
>>17879237
The colors were chosen pretty arbitrarily as a tropical pair of colors, I haven’t asked the thread about the palette yet.

>>17879620
It would be better if they weren't tbqh. Maybe you can put tilted lines somewhere else but for the outer stripes they don't look too good

>>17878579
shouldn't the /ag/ flag have pink?

>>17880089
I might fuck with the angle and size of them then, because the general idea is they’re gradually widening bars instead of lines. If I have to move them or remove them I will though.

>>17880260
Because of pink cat?

>>17879620
>>17880089
You might be able to get away with it if it were more exaggerated. Maybe just go for a triangle shaped flag instead like pic related? I'm pretty sure there are some like that irl and >>17867708 is already a nonstandard outline.

>>17863969
The long story?
There were multiple attempts at an Anya thread for months, and its latest version at the time was "anya global" as a shitpost to bait /hlgg/ regulars to post there just to complain that they keep showing up in their searches. It was also during the time other X global shitpost threads were a thing like "pomu global", "mori global" or "petra global". While just a shitpost thread, Petra global attracted actual pentomos to it, for example this is >>9146735 THE Pentomo or the daughterwife poster in /NijiEN/, however, I don't think he(?) moved in with the other pentomos. When the thread died an early death, some pentomos decided to ask if they can stay. It lasted longer than the separate threads so the meme stuck.

"petra global"
>>9076036
Last "anya global"
>>8994651
Various attempts at "anya global"
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/search/subject/anya%20global/page/3/
First "anya-petra global"
>>11361461

Now, for something the surface world isn't aware of;
/trash/wvt/ predated /vt/ and was founded during Artemis of the Blue's debut, the violent reaction of /jp/hlgg/ contrasting with Your Average Rose (Now Kitanya) own 12(?)hr multi-part debut. Since the discussion of western indies was strictly not allowed in /jp/, the discussion was moved to the /trash/. The following weeks, Koopa Fortuna, a then frequent femanon in /hlgg/ subsumed an anon's fever dream into reality by debuting as a vtuber herself. That led to a second incursion of /hlgg/ posters to /trash/wvt/. How is this related, you ask? Well, /wvt/ housed "anyaposters", some melhomies to the thread for several months and had their own cultural mitosis in there. That's where all those Anya edits of various vtubers came from. As this board opened, some of those memes bubbled up back to /vt/. If you watched Ghost in the Shell, pic is definitely related.

There's also the various conflicts(and cultural admixtures) like /vt/wvt/ vs /trash/wvt/, /wvt/ vs /asp/, ties to small corpo threads like /tsun/, the existence of /lig/, but that's /wvt/ history not anya-petra history. But if you must know, /wvt/ DOES have a flag and it was a reference to the (Dutch) West Indies, as Anya-Petra's own flag was a reference to the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Unfortunately, I cannot find it.

https://desuarchive.org/trash/search/text/anya/page/

>>17880894
>Because of pink cat?
of course

>>17882486
I could see using the light pink of her hair, maybe.
>>17881264
Hmmm, I dunno if I like the triangle. I’ll have to rethink the stripe placement.

>>17821355
Just want to add some suggestion for how the /towa/ nation's culture would be like: While all gen 4 members are noted to be...rather attached to the their oshis, kenzoku are unique in that they are seem to have developed a hive mind state which is unfortunate since their oshi is a menhera.One quirk some have noted is the response to anti-ing, the common response would to simply ignore or lash out but kenzoku have been observed to response with a trance like state while monotonously mumbling "towa...". The /towa/ nation despite this religious fervorous have a rather pleasant disposition, prefering to maintain friendly relations with other chuubas' generals, one notable observation is that compared to other holos generals /towa/ is more accommodating for non-holo chuubas.

>>17854313
Tried another variation. I think it looks more symbolic from a longer distance. Not sure which one i should use though

>>17888213
This one better IMO

>>17888213
>Zentreya reduced into a lizard
What is happening in vsj?

>>17891887
>he doesn’t know about the gecko meme

>>17891887
Are there even unironic Zentreyafags in /vsj+/?

>>17888213
your flag looks more like a seals sticked together and it's too complex. Also I'm going to post this as a reminder
>The Five Principles are:

>Keep It Simple. The flag should be so simple that a child can draw it from memory.
>Use Meaningful Symbolism. The flag's images, colors, or patterns should relate to what it symbolizes.
>Use 2 or 3 Basic Colors. Limit the number of colors on the flag to three which contrast well and come from the standard color set.
>No Lettering or Seals. Never use writing of any kind or an organization's seal.
>Be Distinctive or Be Related. Avoid duplicating other flags, but use similarities to show connections.

>Of course there are exceptions to every rule, but depart from these five principles only with caution and purpose.
from here https://nava.org/good-flag-bad-flag

>>17894493
The flag works fine for what it's trying to mimic/represent. Don't apply principles of modern flag design to historical (parody) flags.

>>17894493
It’s a parody flag

>>17895088
>>17888213
That’s pretty cool how you have the V instead of the cross

>>17881751
>/wvt/ DOES have a flag
Are we talking about the front desk or the back office?

>>17888213
Thats a pretty great map

>>17896617
map?

>>17898687
i mean flag fuck

The World's Fair is happening soon, and (You) have been chosen to arrange your nation's exhibit!
How do you flaunt the brilliance of your nation's unique culture on the world stage?

>>17899920
i pull up the snuffy fart compilation

>>17899920
An exhibit of our booru with food prepared by our cooking dads.
https://clover.club/post

>>17899920
a Suisei gremlin exposition. 13 of the most renowned artifacts of our nation similar to the one here pic related

>>17883812
Is this any better, design wise? I reversed the tilt of the stripes and made it a little more extreme of an angle. The colors I'm not gonna touch yet until I get the shapes down.

>>17899920
the kronies convert the fanfic "Cuckquean of Time pt. 8" into a stage play, with the roles of Kronii, Noel, Fubuki, Suisei, and (You) being played by various namefags. halfway through everyone starts crying and yelling at each other over backstage drama. a man rides a bike across the stage but gets kicked into the crowd by the kronie playing kronii. the audience leaves in a mix of confusion, disdain, and blue balls

>>17893627
I thought there wasn't, no one talks about >her, but whenever asked for their favorites there's always a few that rank >her as high as pink cat.

>>17888213
I think this design, while cool, is not a good fit. It tries to accommodate every group in the thread when there are a few on their way out and a few that'll be added whenever the new girls debut. The only real way to deal with that is to make it a general VSJ+ symbol and call it a day. I can try to make my own design later if you want.

>>17901829
It can adapt like the American flag

>>17901982
it already looks crowded as is, plus i'm not sure if that's allowed

>>17902035
>>17895088
I don't think we will run out of slots if you look at the original one

>>17902129
i think you and I both know that if our flag ever ends up looking like THAT, then we lost.

>>17902357
Just looks way cooler to me. Looks mighty and powerful, but I'm all for other suggestions. Like you said we can also settle on having a general symbol. I would love to see more people from /vsj+/ to be more active with this stuff. I just think that this flag describes our thread the best. See this >>17858660 discussion

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tale of certain niji id enjoyer
>used to be resident of "Nijisanji Thread" in planet /jp/
>great war happen
>tired of war, decided to flee & find peace in another planet
>come to planet /vt/ where hololive clan dominates
>stay with another nijiresident in "Nijisanji Thread" Union
>niji en debuted & population of "Nijisanji Thread" Union population exploded
>On sept 5th, 21 with help of Lord AHU wisdom, we declared independence of "Niji ID" republic
>finally me & my fellow clansmen find peace, harmony & stability that we yearn for

"Niji ID" is a peaceful & self-sufficient nation. (maybe?) have good relationship with other nation/kingdom like other nijis, holo ids, anya-petra and even barbarian land of /SEA/vtuber.

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>>17904329
where is your nation on the map?

>>17746303
I start whenever I can a small "general" devoted to the small rocket stream vtuber, Usui Clear.
Sporadic since she only really streams when there's a rocket launch and that's not necessarily every day though you have probably scrolled past here cute face before.
She's too small to make it on this map I think, but if there were room for a satellite (like an asteroid or tiny passing moon or something) then that would be more fitting for this rocket loving, explosion adoring, V2-rocket flavoring astronautics autiste.

>>17909198
create a nation where she do constant rocket launch tests.

>>17911374
North Korea

>>17911374
>Usui Clear
>North Korea
Its uncanny how similar those two completely different names sound when read aloud... especially in Japanese...

>>17895088
Why does it look so hipster? Same feeling with jesus christ is a rockstar.

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Is someone compiling the lore in these threads?

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>>17920189
What's with the board speed?

>>17920653
I dunno! I looked away and it's already page 9

>>17920706
Probably the bump schizo bumping bait threads in the page 10

Might as well help bump the thread while I'm working on borders.
Right now I'm attempting to make borders for all the generals from the spreadsheet that I made, starting mainly with the bigger threads.
Here's my idea for /ggg/. As you can see, it's meant to look like a shark, while still having borders that look somewhat natural.

Here's my idea for /hlgg/. For the Hololive Empire /hlgg/ would represent the capital region, and as such is placed in a central and highly strategic region location with it containing this bay area.
It might actually need to be bigger though, I'm not entirely sure yet.

>>17922654
It should be bigger and maybe internally fractured, like a federation with a 'core' region and different 'cultures' inhabiting it. Internal fractions would be the reason for the existence of splits.

>>17922739
that doesn't quite fit, maybe a massive city that acts as capital and trading hub for most of the empire would work better, the "hololive realm" itself is already a federation

>>17922739
>>17923551
I view it as being what Italy was to the Roman empire, so basically the main central province of the empire that contains the capital.

>>17922654
Wait, /hlgg/'s claim is this small? When I drew /vsj/'s claim I figured /hlgg/'s must be gigantic, I might've claimed too much because of that..

>>17924714
/hlgg/ hasn't claimed anything. It's the Nuetralfag-OP suggesting claims right now, since they haven't stated their desired location.

>>17924791
it's not like /hlgg/ could decide on anything anyways

>>17924791
oh okay, and I thought we were late to the party, that's reassuring lmao
i need to dedicate some time to thinking about my thread's lore but i keep procrastinating. gomen

I've made /hlgg/'s border bigger after I remembered that their average IP count was nearly 3 times as many as /ggg/, but I feel like it might be a bit too big now.
For now though I'll wait to reduce its size until space in the Hololive continent/empire becomes sparse.

For the Rushia general, earlier in the thread they requested being in the stormiest region, so here's my suggested borders in the stormiest part of the Hololive continent.