/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*

>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://youtubeliveen.soraweb.net/ex/バーチャルYouTuber
>https://mix.live-ranking.com/?keyword=バーチャルYouTuber

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

So Pomu has 5.6k on metal gear and Amelia has 6.3k on apex. Nijisanji is inarguably inclining at this point.

* FINAL TALLY YESTERDAY *

Here it goes
>35,769: Hoshikawa (Nijisanji)
>31,783: Nene (Hololive)
>29,575: Subaru (Hololive)
>29,239: Pekora (Hololive)
>28,928: Suisei (Hololive)
>24,683: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>23,415: Aqua (Hololive)
>21,577: Botan (Hololive)
>21,278: Miko (Hololive)
>17,143: Hanabusa Lisa (VSPO)
>16,839: Koyori (Hololive)
>15,606: Gura (Hololive)
>15,222: Korone (Hololive)
>15,079: Ange (Nijisanji)
>14,610: Miko (Hololive)
>14,064: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>13,497: Matsukai Mao
>13,257: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,848: Mio (Hololive)
>12,059: IRyS (Hololive)
>11,620: Lamy (Hololive)
>11,570: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>11,328: Watame (Hololive)

>>17870674
MGR is buff game.

>>17870697
Kamito where?

>>17870697
Hololive loses again.

>>17870674
MGR is a megabuff game for westerners, it's one of the biggest memes of the early 2010s.
And Ame is literally at 8.3k right now. Pipe down nijis, your small dog syndrome is and always will be silly.

>>17871399
According to The Emperor's Edict, he shall be Vtuber no more.

>>17870512

>>17872258
She has been streaming a lot of /v/core games lately

HoloEN is reclining...

>>17870697
Niji en doko??

Why is Ame allergic to bigger numbers.. 9k down to 7.4 after another fakeout ending

>>17872258

>>17872108
Why is it so hard to admit that Niji EN is inclining?

>>17872108
Why do you act like its literally impossible for NijiEN to ever incline..

thats alot of unique views

>>17872680
>>17872789
Why is it so hard for you to admit VShojo is inclining?

Konami hates Hololive, they just stopped Roboco from playing that dumb train game.

>>17872680
>>17872789
Because, my dear samefag, shooting up to a higher peak than usual than right back down to your average for 20 streams is not an incline.

>>17872108
You should blame Cover for lack of game perms.

>>17873353
Jesus,
Cover....

>>17873232
What does Vshojo have to do with this conversation?
>>17873360
>Samefag
Take your meds. No one isn't Implying she will be 4k+ from all streams here on out, but in general the branch is inclining.

>>17871199
>>17872108
I remember when Pomu struggled to break 2k and Selen was the 'biggest' one at 8k on her birthday. I don't actually give a fuck about these threads or even watch the nijiniggers but this is actual cope since Pomu's 'buff games' before would take her to 2.4k at best like 3 months ago and now she's sitting on 6k, which is better than Selen's buff games during her summer peak. You are actually retarded.

>>17870697
* FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>15,606: Gura (Hololive)
>12,059: IRyS (Hololive)
>9,018: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>6,862: Ike (Nijisanji)
>6,577: Amelia (Hololive)
>6,418: Baelz (Hololive)

I wonder what kind of numbers Pomu will get for the rest of MGS. Which game will see her peak (outside of MGR), 3?

>>17873701
It's like you refuse to understand that a brief spike higher than usual is not an incline. You probably don't watch anything BUT NijiEN if you haven't seen this happen with dozens of vtubers hundreds of times.

>>17873845
not as high.
This game is PEAK meme content the other not so much. I think himawari has played a lto of them and isnt that muhc of a boost.

>>17873701
Yes yes and Ike is inclining because he beat the entire NijiEN record with 22k. He's now the most succesful NijiEN right? He's got the highest CCV average? That's how it works no?

/#/ is declining.

>>17872108
this is starting to sound like Luxiem
>[announcement] nijisanji is not popular in the west
>[pre-debut] there's no market for male vtubers in the west
>[debut] ok debut numbers, but barely passed {something as reference}
>[2 week post debut] good numbers because of debut buff
>[2 weeks post debut] good numbers because they are playing buff games
>[month after debut] they are milking fujos
>[today] they are just popular in {region}
I will never understand why people deny the signs of success when it's in front of their noses

>>17873701
You are delusional but look at her Symphony of the night playtrough numebrs. that happen after MGSR episode 1.

Anyone know why Vox made $8k in SCs yesterday on one of his lowest CCV streams in a while (Runescape)?
I skimmed through the SC messages and most are the typical SCs calling him Daddy and requesting "I love you", "Call me a good girl" or "Kisses please" so it doesn't seem like anything special happened. That's quite a bit of money for an everyday stream.

>>17874047
oops, should be 1 week, then 2 weeks

Poor Bae, she is forced to stream every day for this month to save HoloEN.

>>17874047
My god you are an actual schizo. It's a really fucking popular meme game and she's getting good numbers on it. It's going to be an incline it affects her average. Right now, it's an outlier. The fucking desperation to brag about a 6k stream, christ.

>>17874139
see you next week
>b-but it's another buff game
as if they weren't disposable, there's like 100 games they can play that can be considered buff, they are slowly cracking the formula to get western viewers
holoEN is still stuck in the JP format, spam the same games because the other {buff} games "are not my style"

>Bae's chat is all greys
It's over...her members left her

>>17870697
TICK TOCK HOLOFAGS
If an a 3rd tier talent like Hoshikawa is mogging your 1st stringers, Hololive is truly in a recline

>>17874100
Vox chat interaction is just throwing kisses on sc reading. it might interupt his gampelay, his zatsu and whatever he is doing and make his chat unbearable and unusuable but he chose the money so it is what it is. sacrifice quality and ccv for money.

>>17874262
Are you trying to ignore the previous 2k CCV stream?

>>17874375
you are ignoring the current stream and likely you will ignore the next one too because it's "an outlier"

>>17873845
I dont think any of them will get good numbers really

>>17874139
Guess you could compare it to Bae's current jump king. No one is going to scream its an incline because it's a fucking meme game.
The only other person streaming in NijiEN is fucking Reimu.

Ignore the nijischizo, choosing a random high peak stream and pretending its a norm is a typical nijinigger(EN) move. I honestly can't believe their western fans are fucking worse than the japanese ones.

My knees are for you Pomu... what's left of them anyway

>>17874411
It literally is though you dense motherfucker. Until she can start hitting that number regularly she isn't "inclining". She usually gets sub 3k faggot and you fucking know it.

>>17874100
People said that is was chink payday

>>17874047
Everything after
>[2 week post debut] good numbers because of debut buff
is true, though. It's not "denying sign of success", it's putting proper contexts into numbers - something you should do unless you are trying to shitpost.

>>17874492
The TRUE Gura killer has finally awakened...

>>17874477
No one ever declares any high peak holo stream an incline. Fubuki had an entire month of 30k+ streams and anons here kept saying she'll go down as soon as she finishes the buff content, and she did.
A niji has a few buff game streams and nijis insist this is the new normal and they're "cracking the EN viewer code".

>>17873353
When? And what game?

>>17874492
Holy mother of incline, I kneel Pomu, At the rate she is growing, she'll have 20k viewers in 3 days.

>>17874319
It's a quality stream if you're a fujo. A couple or more of the Niji EN men are terrible for male viewers due to heavy female pandering.
>>17874139
As someone said before her top end for a "buff" game was around 2k~2.5k. Probably even lower than that before at around 1.5k. The ceiling for her "buff" game has risen.
>The fucking desperation to brag about a 6k stream
It wouldn't even be a thing if you guys didn't jam your fingers in your ears and start shouting ignoring what is actually happening in front of you.

>>17874312

>3rd tier

she is inclining a lot recently. real 3rd tier nijis don't even make to the tally most of the time

>>17874552
It was. Unless there's some delay, 5th on the calendar is usually when chinks starts receiving their salary.

Holy shit guys, Sana is an 8k streamer now. She cracked the EN viewer code.

>Nintendo: neutral
>Sega: neutral
>Capcom: pro hololive
>Square Enix: pro hololive
>Bandai Namco: neutral
>Konami: pro nijisanji
>Fromsoft: pro nijisanji
>Atlus: neutral
>Koei Tecmo: neutral
>Spike Chunsoft: pro hololive
>Nippon Ichi Software: pro hololive
>Arc System Works: neutral
hololive wins!

>>17872639
Holy Holo numbers

We're all Sons of the Pomu now

>Pomu at 7k
Jesus memefags are insane. I Wonder how god damn many would watch it Mori or Ame played this

>>17874517
Pomu was getting 1k~1.5k before. Now it is more 1.5k~2.5k most of the time on games. How is that not an incline?

>>17874411
Really not that hard to see her MGR streams are major outliers from her usual numbers.
Were you one of the retards screaming that Fubuki was inclining during her Pokemon Shiny hunt streak?

>>17874649
>As someone said before her top end for a "buff" game was around 2k~2.5k
There is no such thing as a fucking ceiling for a buff game. Buff games are not equal. You are arguing in layers of bad faith. Only time will tell if your chuuba is actually inclining, but jesus you seriously can't tell how ridiculous you sound?

>>17874715
>>Atlus: neutral
are they?
i feel like no niji or holo have gotten to stream fully.

>>17874740
nothing because they will never get the permissions

>>17874760
Go fuck yourself you disingenuous piece of fucking trash.

>>17874724
>Pomu: 7k peak, 5k likes after 2 hours
Naw those aren't Holo numbers yet.
Holos would have 10k likes by now.

>>17874760
pomu alwasy was on the 2k range unless she did some extreme debuff game like akihabara trip
>>17874784

>>17874784
>

>>17874905
and vod views would be on the 200k-300k range after a day.

>>17874932
>Costume stream + song release in end of Jan/start of Feb

>>17874715
>Nintendo
>neutral
>frequently throws sponsorships at Nijisanji's faces
>meanwhile has Hololive begging for scraps
Neutral my ass

>>17874915
Pomu wasn't always 2k range.
>>17874882
Why are you seething so much over someone else's success?

>>17875052
>success
meme pandering isn't success you faggot.

>>17875043
>frequently throws sponsorships at Nijisanji's faces
wut. they only sponsored the Metroid dread one

i have never saw that game MGR, it's insufferable
but her numbers... Anon i ...

>>17875105
Gura...

>>17874626
Momotetsu

>>17874932
Nijiniggers are something else man. You fuckers cook the numbers like goddamn politicians, you can make some serious money for your oshi with this skill.
>n-no outliers here boss, we cracked the code

>>17875105
Step away from the computer, you're irrationally mad.

>>17875052
Why are you so down the throat obnoxious over someone else success too anon?

Noooo Mumei don't go, Bae is almost at 10k...

>>17875150
NTA, but IIRC, Nintendo invited Saku to be a guest on one of their promotional programs before, like how Sega asked Korone for the new Sonic game.
Nintendo is definitely biased towards Nijisanji anyways, even if it's only by a bit.

>>17874715
we need Mori to whore herself some more on TT to nudge kadokawa about fromsoft permissions.

>>17874905
Better?

>>17875105
Migo... Korone... Fubuki... Marine... Coco...

>Sunday evening
>No one from EN streaming except Pomu and Bae
>Both got number
EN is a mistake

>>17874932
>>17875018
is not only that she has been doing shorts also since 3 weeks ago.ago. it is funny becasue some of this have more views than her 5hrs streams.
>>17875052
>Pomu wasn't always 2k range.
she has been 2k average since decemeber you newfag.

>Pomu at 8k and inclining
>Bae couldn't break 10k even with Mumei on the stream

Holobros, it's OVER!

>>17875379
>December
And what was she before December? Lower than that? Thus what happened? She inclined.

>>17875270
she also started the shorts 3 weeks ago.

Cover needs to work on game perms,
or they are losing audience to Nijisanji.
Jesus,do Cover think they can be incompetent forever?Konami wont give game perms?Keeping work on it.

>>17874905
Are you surprised tourists are liking a stream less than normal viewers?

>>17875440
P-Pomu, how did you get so powerful
>NANOMACHINES, SON!

>>17875348
Laymoo...

>>17875469
that is on konami
>>17875443
she was 2k too.
she has been stuck on that for mon

>>17875443
So what does the incline have to do with MGR numbers? Why are you pointing it out now if not to signal a new incline?

>>17875285
Because you couldn't close it enough between your shouting fits.

>>17873701
>Pomu's buff games
none of these buff games were named MGSR

>>17875320
POMU, I don't care if I'll never be able to stand again, I'm staying on my knees

>>17875469
Maybe Cover will start getting worried when NijiEN's EN hours median can beat Sana's. GO POMU!

>>17874932
September....never forget the abysmal Tokyo Kronos era and the 600 viewer streams....

I'm guessing Pomu's viewership data is broken for now.

You know, instead of seething, you guys should just be saving up for grudgeposts because I think Pomu is going to finish MGR this stream.

>>17873685
seems like you need the meds here

>>17875747

>>17875469
Cover will never work on game perms because their audience is content to funnel thousands into the same 5 games over and over like jangling keys in front of a baby

>>17875757
Already in the process. They will be unleashed when Pomu streams next and fails to hit 3k like the fucking failed whore she is.

>>17875747
EN VODs are being culled

>>17874715
What about Sony and Microsoft?

>>17875293
?? I only see metroid dread sponsorship

>>17875757
Nah, it's just one or two schizo. Not even niji thread has agreed yet whether Pomu is inclining or not.

>>17875320
>The closer she gets to the most meme fight the better the numbers become
And nijiniggers are really trying to say is a ''Pomu incline''? c'mon

>>17875747
It just shows how invested Pomu's audience are that there is no churn, while Hololive's audience is full of little children who have 5 second attention spans

>>17875534
>Its on Konami.
Its on both,
Cover have done nothing on game perms,
they just do Idol shits.

>>17875469
They already have Microsoft favour anyway, they just need to wait for Starfield and it's game over.

>>17875555
Maybe you need some mirror anon, i'm not even the anon that you're talking to before. I don't really understand how do you expect someone to take you seriously when your delivery is that bad.

I rember when Pomu got under 1k playing Akiba's Strip...

>>17875866
>invested
>CCV varies from 1k to 8k depending on a game

>>17875857
>She had a difficult time breaking 2k
>3k
>4k
>Now this

>>17875887
Attacking people rather than arguments because you know you have nothing to stand on.

>>17875469
meds

>>17875793
>>17875869
>Cover will never work on game perms
>Cover have done nothing on game perms
This is such a shitty headcannon, and its fucking digusting if you're a nijikek saying this

Pomu @ 8k fighting the last boss

>>17875869
>Cover have done nothing on game perms
>Nintendo license
>sega license
>capcom license
>square license

>tons of sponsorship from those game publishers

>Hatsune Miku: Colorful Stage, Phantasy Star Online 2, Yakuza: Like a Dragon, Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 (Sega(Japan))
>Scarlet Nexus, Tales series, Taiko (Bandai Namco(Japan))
>Groove Coaster, Touhou Spell Bubble (Taito(Japan))
>BanG Dream! Girls Band Party!, D4DJ Groovy Mix (Bushiroad(Japan))
>Monster Hunter Rise (Capcom(Japan))
>Nier Re[in]carnation (Square Enix(Japan))
>Shadowverse(Cygames (Japan))
>Shin Megami Tensei V (Atlus(Japan))
>Bleach: Brave Souls (KLab Games(Japan))
>Another Eden (Wright Flyer Studios(Japan))

AIEEEEEEEE MY MEMBERSHIPS ARE DEAD

>>17876047
Where are your Konami perms?

>>17875866
sad cope

>>17875925
You continue to ignore examples of it happening to other nijis and not meaning shit, like Ike's 20k karaoke

incline? at least better than Versen

>>17876076
>atlus sponsor
I kneel

>>17876076
>SMTV
That was just for a shill, it's like saying Nijisanji has Halo perms because Kanae played it to shill Microsoft's game streaming service.
Getting perms for things every other corporation else can play means nothing too.

>>17876076
They could prob get Sony permission but only Miko really like playstation, I guess they could try getting at least ghost of tsushima, would be a good game for some girls.

>>17875866
>Ludwig watchtime is something between 4~9 minutes based on his leaked stats
>Gura watchtime was 17 minutes based on the GTAV VOD that was locked

>>17876076
>Nintendo license
>sega license
>capcom license
>square license
Are we supposed to be happy about Cover doing the bare minimum?
Even Niji has permissions to play those retard, Niji still wins out vs Holo in what games they can play over-all

>>17876024
if you kill the retard, then they cant keep saying retarded crap. theres a number for you fag... murder One

Mori said she'll 100% stream MGR on her roommate's account so it'll probably be the closest we get to an estimate of what a Holo would get playing it.

Didn't konami sponsor holos for pawapoke few months ago?? They played bomberman, momotetsu and ebaseball before too. It's so weird suddenly they can't play their games anymore.

>>17875866
For whatever a reason a 2k Niji EN or Holo ID stream will have way less VOD views at the end than a similar one from one of the lower end Holo ENs. It's probably down to churn and more ghosted viewers. They get more traction in the algorithm so there's a lot of people clicking and watching for a few minutes then leaving.

>>17876166
>I'll just casually make up numbers and data and hope no one catches me out
This is why Holofags should have been banned from this board since day one

>>17876168
Yeah and a lot of good all those fantastic game perms do when Hololive shits on them just about every day, lol. Game perms are overrated and are a crutch for the untalented.

>>17876177
Seethe cope and dialate.

Any explanation for the drop in Pomu's stream? She's doing the final boss fight and I figured she'd see either an incline or good retention until it was finished

>>17876205
Konami is retard what is new, there a good chance they have some deal with niji.

>>17875747
OH NO NO NO POMUNIGGERS?!

>>17876247
Sounds like a nijinigger

Hope Pomu CCV could wake Cover up,
Niji didnt focus on EN audience years ago ,so they paid the price.
Now Holo doesnt want to work on game perms,so they are losing audience to Nijisanji.

>>17875857
The numbers this stream is of course because of the game, but both can be true, she can have a (small) incline AND play a massive buffgame. Next week she have pretty much zero buffstreams so she will probably get her 2k or what her usual is

>>17876168
>Niji have permission
Is it tho?

>>17876233
You are ignoring ccvid existing.

>>17875747
so the cope is 'retention'

>>17876205
konami is too old and japanese. that is it.
Or niji is paying liscense fees but such doesnt exist for videogames to my knowledge.

>>17876286
she is playing on easy, so it's not as exciting

>>17876286
>Meme game
>People stayed for the meme

>>17876205
It's probably not blanket perms and perms for just those games.
I'm pretty sure Holos can't play Yugioh Master Duel either or else a few would've jumped on the trend by now seeing as there's like 6 Nijis streaming it every night.

>>17876315
Can't wake up what's already dead.
Hololive hasn't been relevant since Coco showed what a black company it was and retired.

>>17876291
Konami are petty people, considering what they do with leaving employees like Kojima, and the debacle that happened on their music gaming division.

Why are nijisisters so mad recently?

>>17876315
>sir it would appear this one NijiEN has reached 9k CCV for the first time ever, on the same day two of our EN talents reached it playing the same shit
>CALL YAGOO HE MUST KNOW WE'RE IN TROUBLE, WE ALMOST LOST EN GOLD
These Niji shitposts are hilarious

>>17876390
Temma from Holostars had to go play on Animare's channel.

>>17876315
Westerners want good games. You hook them with a bunch of good games they will keep coming back. A lot of bitching on this board is either the vtuber doesn't stream enough or they are sick of same game spam like Apex, Minecraft, Pokémon, flavor of the month.

>>17876427
Reading some of these posts (like the one about Pomu's CCV waking cover up, or the Coco one), the zhang theory makes more and more sense. They really are here spamming about how Cover is collapsing any day now, and they can't stop referring to Coco and outing themselves.

>>17876437
>9k CCV
Not even, lol

>>17876437
Yeah, and you giving it a (You) made it even funnier

>>17876286
Playing on easy and already passed the memem scutscene.
>>17876318
i mean just look at her symphony of the night stream
2.3k max, 11 hours, 60k vod iews.
and that was AFTER the first MGSR stream.

>>17876315
What's the point of game perms if half your streamers don't want to stream

It's more likely that Konami has some conditions for streaming their games that Cover doesn't think is worth it.

>>17876490
>Westerners want good games
rumao

>>17876502
chinks are so fragile...

>>17876490
>MGR
>good game
Do you mean meme game?

>>17876573
Didn't Mori say that they were flat out rejected when asked?

>>17876187
If only someone entertaining could play it

>>17876502
ding ding ding

That note post really blew the lid off of their strategy.

>>17876573
They got falt out rejected according to mori.
So the only thing is that niji is paying liscense fees which cover wont do, have some deal that excludes hololive OR someone in the cpmany has something against cover.

>>17876490
Soda himself says there is no good new games to stream recently and people nowadays like to see react streams or talk streams more.

Any reasons gura can't top 20k

>>17876024
When you can't even see other people argument before?
For long before people keep on saying to watch monthly median to gauge real incline. I have a standard for recognizing incline that is monthly median number, if your standard is daily number or at least weekly number then fuck off.

>>17876502
that sounds like war

gura's vods are pretty slow today

gura is reclining

>>17876490
>You hook them with a bunch of good games they will keep coming back.
Whats an entertainer supposed to do when there aren't any good games left to play?

>>17876247

>>17876705
It's Konami, I wouldn't be surprised if they had a fucking book of grudges hidden somewhere in their corporate basement and yagoo's name happen to be on there because his grandfather stepped on the ceos fathers feet that one time

>>17876490
I really hope Cover could have done something on game perms,NijiEN noticed it and now they are spamming games which Holo cant play.
>>17876502
Iam Holofag you know,
even Miko said she wants to stream YGO.

>>17876897
Sing

Tbh the only cover should really move their ass to try getting some sort of deal is from soft, konami can fuck themself they bararely release new games anyway.

>>17876897
try to break the rules for views, like the anime twitch meta

>>17876624
I mean, other than the meme story the game is great.

Where's the lewds at?

>>17876722
Obviously MGR isn't a new game. There are plenty of older games than even that to go through. I hope Pomu man's the fuck up and plays Classicvania.

>>17876502
>noo you can't want Holo chuubas to play games they fucking want like YGO that the entirety of Japan is playing or else you're a ZHANG
?

>>17877057
>actually believing this
Kek. There is a reason they become meme games anon and that is because they have ridiculous cut scenes on top of being shitty games. Yakuza is also a good example of this.

>>17876254
>Game perms are overrated and are a crutch for the untalented
This. Especially when you look at fucking xQc who almost just plays GTA RP for most of his streams, and he always has the top viewership on Twitch

>>17877111
ok /v/ drone, you don't like games. we get it.

>>17876816
she didnt stream today
and still on 3rd place only surprased by rushia surprisingyl and obviously mori.

>>17876168
https://twitter.com/kei_nagao2434/status/1484125129508814848

>>17877090
>YGO
>actually wanting to watch that boring ass game
Lack of Konami perms is unironically a good thing. If Holos started spamming garbage like YGO I might kill myself.

>>17877141
>we

>>17877183
So do you hate Miko or something

>>17876058
This was the highest I saw

>>17877111
People just like to watch spectacle than gameplay

>>17877090
It's one thing to ask permission another thing is trying to doom something when niji is being mogged left and right, chill dumbass.

>>17876897
make kusoge entertaining by sheer wit and comedic timing
or create stories in open games like mc and ark. even noel noticed this.
https://youtu.be/gE6LwwcOocU

>>17876921
Spoonfeed me, if you lack the "true CCV average" and average watch time how is this supposed to make sense

>>17877126
People need to want to click your videos/stream first before the person's ability to entertain can even start to matter. Hence why some people dropped their past life and were on boarded to Holo JP.

>>17877090
>>17876945
You are samefagging very obviously, you replied to the same post with the same game perms non sequitur. You must have not understood what the OP was saying.

>>17877255
yeah holoEN needs another colab game or going abck to MC.
Jp has ark right now and raft.

NijiEns have nothing outside some party games and individual games.

And now Pomu's viewership is crashing as the end credits play.

>>17877259
you don't. there's no good even playground for numbers. it's why /#/ is reclining harder than luxiem

>>17877126
It's not like Holos are really struggling for buff games anyways with their current limited perms.
They literally have SO many horror games they can play and that shit is always a buff.
The best thing about horror games is that quality doesn't even fucking matter.
HoloEN is just full of pussies who aren't desperate enough for numbers to play them.

>>17877088
I mean the meta for en audience isn't game streams, i hate to use vshoujo but look at nyanners solo game stream numbers compare to when she is reacting or more unique chat stream.

>>17877154
Apparently she got the coof. I swear any time she starts gaining momentum again something happens

>>17874715
Also
>crunchyroll : pro hololive
>Marvel : pro hololive
>Netflix : pro hololive
>twitch/Amazon : pro hololive
>Hatsune Miku : pro hololive

>>17877154
>suba with 20k this month
I WANT THE SUB CULL TO STOP
THIS HAS BEEN A NICE MONTH FOR HER.

>>17874686
hskw has been inclidning since 2021 both in subscribers and viewers. she was like 2k before 2021 but now she's at least 4k at bare minimum

>>17877338
He has several actually, not just that
See
>>17873468
>>17875469
>>17875869
>>17876315
>>17876945

>>17877406
The meta for en stream are react and fotm games
I don't there is fotm games recently on EN

>>17877406
yeah this has been worrying me lately. That the EN girls on youtube are now object to the twitch standards of "quality" streams.

>>17877406
It is, just that not all games appeal to everyone. I don't as many people that just drop into just chatting for their first time rather than a game they are interested in.

>>17877615
Needy Streamer Overload was a nice pump and dump FoTM stream.
The closest things we have to FoTM rn are PLA and Dying Light 2.

>>17877531
Apex is buff when you are not dead all time.

>>17877615
There is SIFU and Dying light 2 right now I guess, why none of the en girls are playing when even JP are... EN girls are just not much of gamers realy.

>226 replies
>65 posters

>>17873848
>>17873963
>>17874060
>>17875562
>brief spike
They have been consistently pulling higher numbers recently.

>a niji got 22k
>"t-they're not inclining they're just briefly popular"
You are actually upset about fucking numbers lmao.

>>17877723
>EN girls are just not much of gamers realy.
They cant stream,please understand.

>>17877736
>People are talking back and forth

>>17877505
>Crunchyroll
>Pro Hololive
>just celebrated Princess Connect's 1st Anniversary with a sponsorship for NijiEN
???

>>17877573
>The same message trashing HoloEN while boosting NijiEN
>Awful broken ESL English
Yep, its a zhang. The note blog was right.

>>17874571
>it's a series of favorable random events that keep pushing ninisanji's numbers higher, they'll run out of games soon and then it's back to 100 views for each of them!
Actual cope.

>>17877837
https://twitter.com/Crunchyroll/status/1490482986994835459

>>17877736
Anon, we barely get more than 70 ips most threads, this is not the right thread to be doing the ratio stuff

>>17874139
She peaked around 9k this stream. She's going to get 10k+ views eventually and then you'll be saying "c-cope, gura gets that all the time!". Maybe holoen should actually stream if they don't want to be overtaken.

>>17877837
They need to save money so they hired niji desu, purisu andastando

>>17877736
Last thread I talked about the thread being too quiet. I woke them up, I'm sorry

What happened to Pomu's viewership? It just cratered HARD.

>>17878005
game ended

>>17877978
I can't see Pomu getting 10k anytime soon (this year) outside of big reveals like 3D.

>>17877837
Makes no sense to spend a shit ton of money to market towards a group you already marketed at (launch).
Ina alone probably cost more than NijiEN.

>>17878005
Final boss fight into credits into SC reading.

>>17878005
>>17878045
there were mostly grays in her chat

>>17878045
OH OH OH, thanks for confirming. So...........people were there just for the meme and not to actually watch Pomu. That is just what we have been trying to say for the last hour. That one ESL NijiEN booster is going to be really upset that we were proven right.

>>17878005
anon...
she just had 3x times her viewership

>>17878148
most streams are like this

>>17877978
>She's going to get 10k+
What is the biggest buff game out there? I have never seen a bigger buff than this stream for Pomu so it would have to take something extraordinary for 10k to be possible

>>17878166
>>17878201
c.c.c.c.c.....COPE!!!! I win and you lose.

>>17877978
>She's going to get 10k+ views eventually
She already did, in her outfit reveal stream. Every single holo (every one of them, not one exception) has at some point reached this number. Outliers are in fact meaningless. It's like you guys show up in this thread just when nijis get slightly higher numbers and refuse to use any meaningful stats like monthly averages. Is that it? Are you a tourist just here for a quick ego boost?

>>17877837
Companies are friends of money

I have never seen a bigger cope than saying niji livers are buffed by chinks yeah all those superchats from bots and they target en only not jp too
daaamn holobronies am I right or what?

So, Pomu, with MGR, the buffest of buff game you can possibly muster in the EN sphere at the moment, still couldn't, at ANY point, beat Bae's JK, a game that has been done to death, and where she plays mostly alone, which is the most debuff you can get

Am I getting this right?

Hololive's game perms are fine. Just look at their daily streaming and you will see a nice variety of games. The problem with EN (I'll focus on them since that is what I mainly watch) is that they don't take advantage of the perms that they do have. Take Kronii for example. She talked about during her debut that she was pretty good at Smash and played using the competitive rule set. She then showed when she played Gura that she is, while not a pro or anything, at least somebody who is well above n00b level and has a decent understanding of the game.

Where are the Smash Bros. viewers battles or Smash Bros. anything. Its clearly a game she enjoys and a game Holos are allowed to play. So why the fuck hasn't she played it even once other than the Gura collab?

>>17877996
It's your fault anon. Take responsibility and spread your butt cheek, now!

>>17878341
don't shit on holo using a pekopic

>>17878392
Kronii does not like to play games she enjoys on stream. Minecraft...

>>17878387
B-but JK IS a buff game! A-and hololive ends is night!

>>17878392
No there isn't. Luna and Korone are probably the two I'd go to if I wanted some actual video game variety.

>>17878387
Don't use Bae, she had Mumei and Mori at some point.
Pomu didn't beat Ame doing Apex today.

>>17878341
I mean, all you have to do is look at Luxiem superchats to see that they very much are being boosted by chinks.

>>17878513
Your post makes no sense in reference to the point I was trying to make. Try again ESL.

>>17878549
They are boosted by chinks
but it's massive cope to say that they're bots

>>17878618
>Just look at their daily streaming and you will see a nice variety of games.
Korone and Luna are the handful that actually go out of their way to have plenty of variety.

>>17878549
teenage chinks who live in Taiwan and HK

>>17878412
why not?

>>17878522
I said "Mostly" anon
Beside, it balanced out by Pomu have more chance to spike due to meme moments

>jwu and notice a lot of hololive seething and coping in this chat
>something must have happened
>check streams and notice Pomu's numbers

so that's it? you faggots are coping because of nijien's incline? that's all it takes?

>>17878753
This, Anycolor literally had to release a statement about minors needing to ask for permission before consuming content in February. Luxiem brought in a shit ton of actual children.

>>17878854
Yes.

>>17838139
>>17838761
honorary holos my ass. Even more hoshikawa who had two collabs with haachama after a year and barely collab with holo

>>17878914
that's a very spooky pomu, anon
please refrain from posting scary pomus

>17878854
>nigger comes flaseplaffing as a pomufag
>get called a retard
>"why are you guys seething"

>>17878854
Other corpos talents have been inclining as well. Nene and Miori have added another 100~150 viewers on their standard stream, and ASMR/karaoke ones often get well over 500 CCV for both vtubers respectfully.

>nijifag shits up the thread
>reels in pain at having been called a retard
>immediately creates a bait thread >>17876535
I'll say it again. Why are they so much worse than JP nijifags?

Did mori say something about konami again recently? I remembered the flat out rejection was from long time ago while holojp was still able to play momotetsu and bomberman.

>>17879091
No one is reeling in pain, they are laughing at this thread and how delusional they have been.

>>17879102
is a topic that gets brought alwasy
her latest memeber stream and the latets sc reading she repeated it.

idc about holoen getting btfo, im a main branch enjoyer

>>17879319
Do not trigger the EN fags, let them fight with Nijiniggers.

idc about holojp getting big numbers, I'm an EN branch enjoyer

>>17879091
Nijiniggers are nijiniggers no matter where they are from

>>17879038
>>17879091
samefag

NijiJP kneels to NijiEn.

>>17878387
CCVID retard, did you forget about it? accounting for cull, based on Pomu's like and chat speed, she should have had 50k CCV

Youtube fix your goddamn website

>>17879102
>momotetsu
Roboco just cancelled it due to "some issues"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFriU18FoxE

Another winning animation for HoloEN. This one is already getting 250k in just 15 hours. Probably due to the clickbaity thumbnail.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rhlprMfU7w

This Gura-Mumei animation is reaching 430k views after a day. Much faster (and less costly) than Fianna's original song.

>>17879599
Fucking Konami

>>17879588
THE GURA KILLER

>>17878392
>Hololive's game perms are fine.
No they're not, gave pekora mgs perms then we are talking

>>17877154
Considering that I'm surprised Watame is maintaining 30k.

>>17879574
? Hoshikawa got 35k yesterday dumbass

>>17879647
It's not fair, nijibros! Why don't we have talented fans?

>>17879575
Okay, by that logic, Bae should have more
Anon, there will be day when Niji take the spotlight, but today is not that day

>>17879647
Deadbraps ...

>>17879796
Yes, when NijiEN gets ONE 40k CCV in one of their streams.

>>17879647
Man, I wanted to reply to this and get some new numbers discussion going on here but you really just had to drag it back into some tribalism. At this rate only JPs starting the streams can save us from this timeloop/

>>17879656
I hope Cover is working on "some issues"in background.

>>17879647
I swear to god, I'm not even a NijiEN or Vshojo fan but I feel bad for both when their fans can only watch streams and not create anything worthwhile to show their love.

>Next FoTM
https://youtu.be/agcoHM2CJ3s

>>17879906
This thread wil be big number vs small number, you can't escape from tribalism.
It's better to all laugh at NijiEN fandom for not creating anything big at all.

https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1490520693884260355
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1490520693884260355
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1490520693884260355

>>17879656
konami suck nijisanji dick, sorry holobros

>>17879647
>>17879785
Call me a schizo, but you were the guy posting CCV screenshots just to shitpost about how Nijisanji is reclining, weren't you? Your posts have a similar "style".

>>17879774
Nah. NijiEN absolutely mogs NijiJP on average. The ENs are basically mid-tier livers compared to the JPs.

>>17880059
no, they don't. lol there's 15 EN and you are counting Vox and Mysta as all.

What's with schizo's hard on with Konami's permission?

>>17879934
Shion's cover soon.

>>17880266
No wonder Shion hasn't been streaming recently, she is building up her return buff for a cover.

>>17879647 (me)
There are also smaller ones like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh3plVi5ULQ
This HoloJP has 121k after 12 hours

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBsZlZkQ1nk&t=3s
This Mumei-Kronii one has 51k after 14 hours

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6dQzoVJqZw&t=64s
This Tripl3 animation got 67k after 19 hours

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5yzpUtcLYI
This Gura Kiara stop-motion animation got 68k after 2 days.

>>17880266
Because Konami has a good catalog of classic games.

>>17880003
Why are HoloID, HoloEN and Holostars deserved to be included in the expo? Even Nijisanji with their successful Luxiem aren't wasting anything on NijiEN, NijiID and NijiKR.

>>17879647
>>17880385
Imagine caring about fanart made by literal 5 year olds on the internet.
It makes NijiScenario look like it has amazing art and animation in comparison with these

>>17880593
Who cares. They have to shift from the vtubers to something else. Constant goal post moving. Will there be a day when they have less places to move that goal post to?

>>17880385
Jesas there's a lot of hololive animation pumped up daily
Here's a modest one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAALC2L7R4Q

Oh no IRyS, 3rd shill stream on the same game. I shall leave a like and not watch as usual.

>>17879785
Nijis need to start botting their most influential fan-artists

>>17880593
>>17880678
Even if I agree that the animation is absolutely low effort, this sounds a lot like some nijiseethe dudes.

>>17880856

Bae is carrying entire Holo,
I kneel.

Right. On the topic of Lat-am and their presence of the board, I present to you this thread, without comment.
>>17871084

>>17881028
Based

>>17881125
Holo doesn't deserve anyone like that.

IRyS is now Sora tier....

>>17878753
How do teenagers SC? They steal their parents CC and send hundreds of dollars in red SCs? Seems a bit implausible.

Am I hallucinating or some schizos here are now shitting on fan animation? Isn't fan animation views supposed to be relevant to #?

>>17881203
Did they really need 3 streams of this?

>>17881295
How?

>>17881304
>IRyS really likes the game
>Dev really likes IRyS
>Management
Choose your rrat anon

>>17881304
who knows
i dont get why ONLY irys accepted it.

>>17881203
I mean

I still dont get why asia loves so much dark deception.
is it only for the screams?

Reminder

HoloEN game sponsorship

>Hatsune Miku: Colorful Stage, Phantasy Star Online 2, Yakuza: Like a Dragon, Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 (Sega(Japan))
>Scarlet Nexus, Tales series, Taiko (Bandai Namco(Japan))
>Groove Coaster, Touhou Spell Bubble (Taito(Japan))
>BanG Dream! Girls Band Party!, D4DJ Groovy Mix (Bushiroad(Japan))
>Monster Hunter Rise (Capcom(Japan))
>Nier Re[in]carnation (Square Enix(Japan))
>Shadowverse(Cygames (Japan))
>Shin Megami Tensei V (Atlus(Japan))
>Bleach: Brave Souls (KLab Games(Japan))
>Another Eden (Wright Flyer Studios(Japan))
>Cookie Run: Kingdom (Devsisters(Korea))
>Blue Archive (Nexon(Korea))
>Eternal Return (Kakao Games(Korea))
>Core (Manticore Games (USA))
>Princess Connect (Crunchyroll(USA))
>Rocket League Sideswipe (Psyonix(USA))
>They Bleed Pixels (Spooky Squid Games(Canada))

japan: 10
korea: 3
usa: 3
canada: 1

ZhangjiEN game sponsorship

>Alchemy Stars (Tencent(China))
>Pronty (CE-Asia(China))
>Onmyoji (NetEase(China))
>Hatsune Miku: Colorful Stage (Sega(Japan))
>Blue Archive (Nexon(Korea))
>Princess Connect (Crunchyroll(USA))

china: 3
korea: 1
japan: 1
usa: 1

Luca at 8k

>>17881498
On has been around 17 months, one has been around for 9 months. Not fair. Also Luxiem will get a lot so the future is bright, it's not their fault the females couldn't carry.

>>17881498
You forgot Taco Bell Nacho Fries (Mexico)

>>17881518
Taiwan yab buff.

IRyS is 2k shitter now?

>>17881584
taco bell is not a game sponsorship

>>17881567
Luxiem's audience is female and don't play video games, pointless to sponsor them except for some types of mobile stuff maybe.

>>17881584
>Taco Bell Nacho Fries
>Mexico

>>17881592
>Attacking your own kind
Do holoniggers really? I'll see if Sora finally wraps up Romancing SaGa 3 today.

>>17881567
how will taht work? they wont get EN sponsorships if these want them to stream on NA time.
>>17881588
is one of those horror games popular in asian who knows why
he alreayd dropped sekiro so he is really looking for numebrs now.

>>17881592
IRyS break really hurt her, as are her kind of erratic streaming times, and she appears to have a very severe case of Ccvid on top of that.

>>17881588
Maybe NA viewers are tuning in because of the yab? The situation has gone pretty viral in some places on Twitter already.

>>17881592
anon, the wait room was like 3k

>>17881691
>na
>caring about luxiem
nah

What's with the increase in the amount of ESL posters?

https://twitter.com/sakamatachloe/status/1490546545640755203
Noel + Flare + Lui + Orca collab on Flare's channel tonight.

>>17881732
Comachama?
this has been the case since forever

>>17881732
Latam? SEA? Zhangs? Uneducated Burgers? Who knows

>>17881584
>Mexico
Ay, caramba

>>17881778
Man, holox keep boosting low-mid tier holos, it's unfair

On a less important news
Q passed 2 mil

>>17881518
9k

>>17881835
Seeing how HoloX barely touches HoloEN and HoloID, they know where the money and future is. Starve those grifters out of Hololive is the best option

>>17881732
It's the Weekend, and also spic and Brazil hours

>>17881908
Yeah you'd like that wouldn't you nijizhang?

>>17881900
Looking at the chat, I'm seeing a lot of grey and very Western names. I guess the scandal really boosts his numbers. On LSF twitter and reddit, I even see people promoting on Luxiem stuff to people asking for vtubers to watch.

>>17881835
And?

>>17881900
holobros?

>>17881691

you all will never accept that the guys are popular, huh. everytime they get goods numbers is bUFF tHIS, bUFf tHAT. will you say that after some months passed and they are still doing great?

>>17881778
>people were pissed that Chloe wasn't really collabing much and was isolating herself from the box
>suddenly She is collabing with other holomems a lot
Does /vt/ have that sort of power over HoloJPs?

>>17882021
it's over...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHnRpIpscuc

This Gura social credit meme is getting noticed and very well-received. Looks like Gura might have her own Taiwan boost as well. Luca representing Nijisanji is leading the way.

>>17881985
>>17881691
what you talking about? i thought this situation was over like 3 days ago, did it evolve or something

>>17881985
nigger is dark deception is a horror buff in sea
>>17882028
they guys are popular with sea viewers no one is denying that but also you poeple really need to understand what is good conent for them and what not. Luca has gotten 10k before but drops on the second stream easily.

>>17882021
HoloEN:10,567
NijiEN:10,969

>>17882021
>not a single 10k
ENvtuber is such a failure

>>17881900
Luca (previously Pomu) mogging all of NijiJP today. Management should graduate 60% of the reclining JP branch and focus their attention to EN. This is their best course for growth.

>>17881732
ESL posters have always been the most tribal and this is the console war battleground for this board

>>17882059
>Gura
>Taiwan boost
anon... she's had that since she sang baka mitai for coco when she was still on her suspension
look at how many tw gura clipper channels

>>17882028
Luxiem has been good at attracting Asian viewers, and now that they are actively working with Vshojo, the biggest vtuber group in NA, they are also attracting NA viewers as well.
I think Niji's slow and steady strategy is working.

>>17882048
HoloJP I kneel.

>>17881778
might overlap with pekora ARK

>>17882048
/vt/ I kneel.

>>17882151
Yes,I cant belive HoloEN just gave up,they dont want to stream.

>>17882142
Because you soft ass Westerners are too soft to fight. The fuck is being non-confrontational and diplomatic. When you believe in something, you will need to fight for it with your life. We don't take shit for nothing.

>>17882151
It's funny now that NijiEN is so successful, the "slow and steady" shitpost is nowhere to be seen.

>>17882121
KEK. HoloEN everybody. Just a matter of time before the shark kneels and suck Luxiem dick for a collab

>>17882311
> NijiEN is so successful
hold on anon
You would jinx it

>>17882201
Pekora probably won’t be doing anything big in ARK today so I would rather the number going to the collab
Though it’s quite funny that turn out management turn pvp off in Holo Ark server so now Pekora and Aki will have to convince management to turn it on for their war to proceed

>>17882311
>>17882438
NijiEN is already performing better than their JP branch.