/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>17840948
>watch on her latest streams
>she starts behaving flirtatious towards her mods
>says how her mod is bullying her
>find out her on and off bf is a moderator

Yea I think I'm a head out now.

>holoEN
Fuck those unfunny whores and their enablers

Mori, it was all too tiresome

>>17840948
Watame
It just doesn't feel like she's even having fun anymore, just turning up for obligatory streams to collect her paycheck

Also, anyone who says Mori admits to being a cuckbeat

>>17841021
The really funny thing is this is the same girl who tried to fuck over Fauna on her debut being so sanctimonious about fraud GFEs.

>>17841057
wow, unfollowed.

>>17841057
Yea I feel like her Needy Girl Streamer playthrough kinda backfired on her

All of them

>>17840948
Literally all holos except Botan and IRyS. In NijiEN I dropped Rosemi. Shondo on twitch (only vtuber / streamer I even watched there since I dont like the platform)

Marine

As talented as she is, her constant health issues and breaks these past 10 months got too annoying to look the other way from. She really needs to step back and re-evaluate her work/life balance and diet and exercise.

>>17841123
why are you still here then

>>17841149
It's mostly throat issues isn't it? She just needs to take a couple ambien before streams so it's not a constant stream of words

>>17841057
The ones who say shit like this are almost always the most likely ones to be the very same thing they're claiming to be above. Seen a lot of posts about shadow though and was thinking of checking her out, so I'm glad I know to steer fucking clear of that hypocritical cunt now.

Hololive in general
Ive been enjoying 2views now and having them directly talking me and remembering my name

>>17840948

>>17841246
Some 2views are nice but the little tiny experience also gets kind of circlejerky and janky as well and I don't really like that much. If you're not the one she's talking to you don't want the stream to be wasted on the girl fellating the circlejerk orbiting her, "oh hi again bigfaggot23 how are you!!" etc. You don't get that on the big corpo girls who treat the fandom more as an amalgam than a clique.

>>17841021
Lol imagine watching a vtuber stream while her bf is in the same chat with you and they're both teasing each other. Holy maximum cuckoldry

I'm having a Pomu burnout lately since I find her content stale nowadays. I'm gonna cancel my membership soon.

>>17840948
Why though?

>>17841444
>>17841021
Lads... is this true?

What did shadow do to you for you to make a thread every day and samefag in them? Genuinely curious since you started doing it only after her discord got bonked.

>>17840948
I don't want to believe, shadow please....you were supposed to be the perfect GFE vtuber...

>>17841021
And this is why I stick to Hololive.

>Mori
Too much yabs turned me off
>Ina
Not introducing anymore
>Shubaru
Not my type would still fuck her
>Okayu
Not my type either
>Astel
I don't like him anymore
>Temma
I tried to loike his streams vut couldn't
>Selen
...
>Sushi
I'm getting tired of his and tengoku's shit on my feed, I had to get rid of one of them
I'm getting tired of vtubers in general.

>>17841021
this was on her recent dark souls 3 stream i believe

>>17841995
Any archive?

>>17841774
Her last stream hosted Shirara after it ended kek. The girl that accidentally said "My boyfriend..." on stream. Hosting her after talking about hypocritical GFE chuubas during the needy streamer overload is insane to me.

>>17842151
rumao!

>>17840948
Let me guess, people found out she had a boyfriend?

>>17841021
So much for the new /shondo/ general thread

>>17840948
Why?

>>17842322
Yes but not just that but that he's a moderator and is always present during her streams

Sumanai, but they really don't feel like they have a genuine spirit and passion.

>>17841192
Gossip and Drama

>>17842377
Wow its like a double cucking. Western vtubers are truly next level

>>17842322
Correct. As you can see from all the buttmad simps ITT feeling cucked by their favourite streamer once again.

Now they will go to another streamer they think is boyfriendless so that they can believe they are giving their money to someone that truly loves them exclusively(lol).

>>17841021
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Aqwp-W9Au08&feature=youtu.be

Astel
No longer the newtype he was

>>17842377
NTRfags probably like it

>>17842485
I dropped her for being hypocritical not because I expected her to be my girlfriend. Most of my favorite chuubas never did GFE other than some fan service here and there that some schizos will interpret as GFE. My first oshi was married for fuck sake. I watched her because she was funny, not because I need a virtual gf. I followed Shondo because she is very unique imho and she talks about random weird shit that I found funny / interesting. Also I'm a huge ASMR fag because of my anxiety so theres that too.

>>17841021
Faithful menhera GFE vtuber they said

>>17841021
This shit is actually giving me physical damage first time I actually believed in a GFE vtuber and already got btfo, any actual proof that he is a mod so I can 100% abandon the ship?

>>17842663
She was being shilled hard. Maybe it was the BF himself.

>>17840948
You wouldn't know her, but my 2view oshi.
She was perfect, a voice I liked, a model I liked, a way of talking I liked, content that I liked.
But I hated her. I think I would have been happier if I was an EOP and didn't have a clue of what she was saying.
I might hate women. And yes, Japs are the same.

>>17842485
when will they learn

>>17842790
what'd she do?

>>17842771

>>17842876
I think she was just being herself, nothing in particular.
Either way she'll be happier without her schizo gaikokujin gachikoi, still butchering the language after several years of studying, she probably hated me anyway.

>>17842971
>using a rrat to prove a rrat

>>17842971
t fallenshadows bf

>>17842971
>if anything, this ups her GFE
Kek

>>17842971
oof anon that's even worse....it's pretty much ''If you have a position of power you get to fuck the vtuber''

>>17842621
Guys that are into NTR self-insert as the one cucking, not the one being cucked. Or don't self-insert at all and just enjoy observing the corruption of love. Which is why so many of them are told from the female's POV, rather than her partner's since it's hard to not relate to the guy if you experience the story through their eyes. The ones that are from the cucked one's perspective are mostly consumed by women.
In real life, the fetish is very different in nature. The men that are into watching their wives getting fucked by another man enjoy it because they enjoy seeing their women being pleasured. Similar to how a "normal" person would enjoy watching their partner masturbate. Couples that partake in this usually look at the person they are using as a sex tool and men with this fetish tend to be very confident in themselves and their relationship. It's a sexual fetish, not an emotional one.

>>17843216
They all think it will be them though. Delusional fools.

>>17842971
>>17843216
>>17843273
That's an obvious falseflagger you dumb fucks.

>>17843216
lmao there's some anon at another thread crying about his 2view ghosting me and then there's this sociopath chad LITERALLY making a popular gfe vtuber travel across the world for his dick

>>17843252
Maddox is that you?

>>17842864
We never learn

>>17843138
He's right. Women are cheating whores so this is just realistic GFE

>>17843252

>oh nooo not my pure cute GFE anime girl chuuba
This is the only reason I come to this board these days, to laugh at deluded goslings and schizos who keep falling for the same bullshit over and over again instead of accepting reality and enjoying vtubers for what they’re supposed to be, entertainers - not personal affection prostitutes.

>>17843252
new copypasta just dropped

>>17842771
>pic
scheiße

>>17842771
>first time I actually believed in a GFE vtuber and already got btfo
Such is life

>>17841444
sounds like kaneko lumi & sei lmao

>>17840948
>current year
>thinking that any female Vtuber is single when the only current requirement for a women to be dateable is being female
>even that's sometimes optional
I honestly don't care as long as they're not flirting on stream

Girls who are good at and enjoy providing GFE are able and likely to have a boyfriend? Who would have thought.

>>17843073
This.

>>17843252
Holy cope

>>17843676
which mod is lumis bf?

>>17840948
I haven’t dropped Ina but I do admit that I’ve been watching a lot more of council lately especially Mumei

>>17842485
I posted about it on the board before, but my sister's boyfriend's sister is ugly as shit, is a bitch, has anxiety so bad that she can't even make a wrong turn somewhere a mile from her house without having a nervous breakdown and needing to call her dad using her cell phone to save her, and she found a guy on discord willing to support her and marry her. Femcels are all volcels. Any woman who makes a modicrum of effort to find a dude will have no issue finding one.

Do I fit in yet?
Please like me.

This is why you dont fall for western whores

>>17843969
She's english, they have treachery in their blood.

>>17843815
seemed like sei until he lost his modship for being outed as a doxxnigger

>>17843827
It does feel like Myth is having its dark ages recently with one or two of them always being out of commission at a given week and Mori being Mori. Some of the Council members seem to have taken the feedback regarding their stream times with Bae streaming every single day this month, Mumei sneaking out guerillas a lot, and Fauna having pretty impressive schedules as usual, though Kronii still tends to have lackluster schedules and Sana is, well...

At least >we know who consistently lazes out in Council. Myth is just plain random at who gets to skip out an entire week.

>>17844038
chat drama is so tiresome

>>17844086
I don't pay any attention to the chat anyway.

So the Kana schizos moved onto Shadow huh

>>17841017
>>17843968
This but unironically. Mori fell off HARD for me . I just check in for important clips and interactions now every now and then.

>>17844137
What did she do?

>>17843808
Cope what? Just explaining how the NTR and IRL "cuck" fetishes work psychologically because a lot of people here seem to have a mistaken understanding of them as fetishes that derive enjoyment from the emotional trauma of being cheated on.

ENcorns..

>>17844086
Go back to moaning in Getting Over It, Lumi

>>17844148
It’s nothing she’s done really I’m not a cuckposter (mori having sex KEK) . just not feeling it anymore I guess. I think October was her greatest month and it’s been downhill since.
And Q was mediocre. I’m not hopeful for any other work she’s supposedly still slaving on

>>17844148
The entire cast of TT

>>17841444
>>17841021
I was in that stream when it happened but didn't have context. She was giggling and being flirtatious with the mod saying how he was bullying her and he responded with how they're only allowed to bully after the 2nd date. They kept talking while the rest of the cucks in the chatincluding me sent messages only to be ignored. I'm absolutely fucking sick right now looking back at it. I'm now sticking to non-GFE vtubers now.

Does anyone have any recommendations?

>>17841618
It's true, bro.

>>17844826
hit me with the timestamp please, anon. I was at work yesterday and missed the stream. I wanna see for myself.

>>17840948
All of Holo Council (except bae). Not recent but realised I hate them all a few months ago.

>>17844959
Yeah, at least rat genuinely likes streaming.

>>17840997
Same, I dropped them hard as I find myself inconvenient because I didn't get the same excitement when Lazulight first came out

>>17844826
She flirts with all of her mods though and her audience in general.. do you know which one it was?

I really don't care about her having a bf, in fact i think that's nice.
She deserves to be happy and be a cute wife one day.
What bothers me is the bizarre and unnecessary deception, she got so fucking mad at KAngel for lying about her relationship status while profiting off of "GFE", saying how reprehensible that is and that she absolutely hates liars like that, and yet she lied to her viewers in the same week about never having dated or even kissed a guy before.
I just don't get why she would do that, I think most of us would be okay with it if she were honest about it.

Unironically Mori. I love Hololive and she clearly doesnt so I just cant enjoy her anymore. Its really not even all the cuck stuff just how inconsiderate she is about everyone else and how she is clearly just setting herself up to graduate and ride out on her fame.
Its disgusting.

>Akai Haato, used to membership to her.
The novelty just wears off, her antics became really annoying. Nowaday I only watch Fubuki and Lize.

>>17844796
Even the bassist? She's worse than Aya Hirano.
After all those years, I still haven't forgiven.

>>17845274
I kinda feel you, I dropped Mori a long time ago.
I don't hate her, but I feel like her debut gave me a very different sales pitch than what we got in the end.
I expected a dorky, chuuni who pumps out cringekino and plays cool RPGs or nostalgic RPGMaker titles frequently, all while doing her best to make her unusual gimmick work in the hololive setting.
Instead she ended up pretty much the way you described, I'm sure plenty of people enjoy her laid back attitude to streaming and her persona but it's not for me.

>Mori and Shondo unironically filtering unicorns
yep, Kiara Mori Shondo, the Sigma Triumvirate

I guess she won.

>>17845206
Anon you don’t know that she’s lying, having had a boyfriend in the past doesn’t mean she’s done those things, they lived in different countries and he is her discord mod. Don’t let /vt/ get into your head so much, she’s never said she has never had a boyfriend before. She had a huge public meltdown over a year ago when they broke up.

>>17845531
Read the thread bro, most people upset at Shondo are not unicornfags, they're upset that she lied while putting on a sociopath-class performance convincing everyone that she hates people who do exactly that.

>>17845548
Go back to sucking Eddy’s cock Fauna, the worst that they have on Shadow is that she has had a boyfriend at some point, not that she currently has one.

>>17845548
>tries to ruin fauna at her debut
>gets exposed later on for doing the same thing but worse

Like pottery

>>17845632
>not that she currently has one.
Anon...

>>17845597
what exactly she lied about? her ex being a mod has never been a secret

>>17842378
legit this. it feels like they just all collectively have no passion for the whole thing anymore and are just riding it out for the money

And the rrats keep coming and they don’t stop coming…

>>17841021
Does anyone actually have confirmation on the bf still being a mod or this pure rrat?
The only thing I've seen proven in these threads is that she did at one point have a bf

>>17841021
P-pchan?

>>17845651
To be fair she dint mentioned that she just cried about being "betrayed".

>>17845632
Your waifu is literally flirting with her mod bf during streams and ignoring your cuck messages kek

>>17845436
She is like literally the Critikal of Hololive. Just a normie larping as a cool weeb.

>>17845678
Her ex has been a mod since forever, no it's real, they aloso were "internet dating" so hardly an actual boyfriend unless you consider discord sex as physical sex

>>17845632
>falling for bait
Besides, they made up. Quit reading threads and start watching streams.

Dropped all vtubers because Mwhorey Konnorope made me realize they’re all chatting and hanging out with men behind the scenes. They just lie about being shutins and having anxiety.

>>17845548
cant drop fauna, she streams at a time too good for me, just have to lern how to be a good cuck and pretend i dont see.

>>17845667
Anon her life is incredibly public, she had a huge crying discord hissyfit and went away from social media for like a week, came back even more depressed and declared she was a lesbian over a year ago, saying they weren’t together anymore. Her relationship status has always been incredibly public, when she did have a boyfriend she would turn down superchat marriage proposals on her youtube stream and say she could only be friends with her chat. He was a discord mod first and then her boyfriend and then a discord mod again, anyone pretending Shadow has lied or deceived anyone is just an idiot. She’s incredibly open about all of this, if you read more than shit rrats on this board you would know that.

>>17845668
She deleted all her posts about having had a boyfriend and said on a recent stream that she never kissed a guy before, when we know that they met before and spent time together, meaning that's obviously bs.
If she didn't mean to deceive her audience then she wouldn't lie about the kiss thing and try to purge that information from the internet, as you can tell by the reactions in recent shondo threads this clearly was not well known among people who haven't followed her since before her vtuber debut.

>>17845632
This man lacks critical information.

Lonely women don't exist.
Even if they're terribly antisocial. Even if they are mentally ill. They will still find someone, they can't be lonely, that's a male only thing.
If you were led to believe otherwise, that's your fault.

ITT: incels
Touch grass

>>17845777
>She’s incredibly open about all of this,
No, she used to be.
Now she got rid of all those posts and lies about ever having dated a guy before to her current audience.

>>17845777
>Anon her life is incredibly public

So she's really a virgin like how she said?

>>17845794
>they met up after only talking on discord
>he wants sex
>she can’t even hold an actual conversation

Anons spreading the Shadow boyfriend rrat really expect too much from her, this is a girl that’s been socially isolated for almost a decade. She’s mentally 12 max. Do you really think they have been kissing or fucking when she came back home and they broke up?

>>17845847
You're right, getting cheated on is part of the GFE.

>>17845852
She said she hasn’t kissed a boy before, never mentioned dated. Do you really think she’s competent enough to hold down an actual relationship?

>>17845920
This is the true message of Needy Girl Overdose

>>17845920
>You're right, getting cheated on is part of the GFE.
kek

>>17840948
Haven't dropped any vtubers recently, but the last ones I dropped were Mio, Luna, Aqua and Korone.

>>17845945
The absolute state of Shadowcucks

>>17845920
For some, it is even the highlight for them!

>>17845945
>>17845883
Bruh they hung out together for at least some amount of time as a couple, it's not like they met for 5 minutes at the airport and said goodbye again.
The idea that they never kissed seems blatantly ridiculous and the fact that she felt the need to hide all of that information doesn't exactly add to her credibility in this regard.
It's not like she deleted all old posts either, she specifically purged anything mentioning a bf. Does that signal honest intent to you?

>>17844826
>Does anyone have any recommendations?
I can recommend you Vividly Vivi, an ausie who's big fan of original Fallout series (mostly VN), shits on Todd and his creations constantly and just purely based girl. Yes she has a bf but rarely even brings him up and never bait you for any form of affection. She's not a big on a gamer side and you never know when and what she streams but her dad was a gamer and she especially likes oldschool titles like Broken Sword. She also does ASMR if that's your thing and she actually started her activities as RP ASMRist on YT.

https://www.twitch.tv/vividlyvivi

Also this smol panda. She's british.

https://www.twitch.tv/shizukou

I wonder how much of a shitstorm her next stream will be. Betting personally on it being completely normal because nobody gives a shit about /vt/ rats outside of /vt/ and nobody here has the balls to bring it up in her chat where they’re not safely anonymous

>Shondo getting schizorratted by /vt/
HOLY INCLINE
Now, Nijisanji or Hololive? Which one she is gonna eventually join?
She implied that given the chance she is gonna try now to go big knowing also she has a following that she won't lose too

>>17846086
She specifically said that she wouldn't wanna join an agency unless she can remain as Shadow so that already rules out Hololive, unless she lied about that I guess.

>>17846086
Nijisanji wouldn’t even double her numbers. As a long time watcher observing this board become obsessed with her to pretty well known information coming out today is kind of funny.

>rratposting about shadow
>zero (0) timestamps to the VOD that's still up
Ignore this samefag until he posts proof (he can't) onegai

>>17846079
Yeah I don't expect a shitstorm, I don't even think many people ITT are really seething at her.
Personally I'm disappointed by her but I still like her and her content.

>>17845883
>>17845945
How is this so hard to comprehend. She LITERALLY TRAVELED ACROSS THE GLOBE TO MEET HIM. She stayed at his place. She admitted to being love with this guy.
What do you think actually happened? She traveled to his country and then she stayed at her own Hotel after awkwardly almost kissing each other?....

>>17844122
Who the fuck holds a glass like this?

>>17846184
I’m disappointed she avoided mentioning that she has had a boyfriend before but people seething she currently has one are dumbasses and deserve to seethe. She keeps people in her orbit, she’s been doing this for years now.

>>17846071
>mostly VN
NV I meant.

>>17845945
Anon, I’m sorry to tell you but any girl that can speak fluent English has probably been dicked down a dozen times minimum. Please rejoin us in reality.. I know it’s tough but life is still worth living

>>17840948
Pekora

>>17846206
They went to disney world, right? I remember her talking about that on stream a long time ago.

>>17846254
>fluent
have you heard her ""talk""

>>17846279
Sry I actually haven’t, just assumed bc fauna

>>17846206
Dude she’s a socially incompetent retard who doesn’t understand tongue kissing and has next to no sex drive. She was probably diddled by her mom’s boyfriend as a kid, I doubt she let the guy near her. Why the fuck do you think they broke up? Immediately when she got back? What the fuck do you think could have happened that caused them to break up and for her to have a meltdown? He broke up with her because he wanted to fuck her, she wouldn’t let him, then she decided because she didn’t want to fuck him she was a lesbian. If you know a thing about her it’s obvious as hell. Do you really trust shitty rrats over a streamer you supposedly like?
If you have an issue with it, bring it up in her chat then. You won’t though will you.

>>17845584
You think she's a virgin?

Imagine if Shadow got to join Hololive with her current model, she would quality mog 99% of the other girls there so hard and she's still looking to get even better rigging eventually.

>>17846273
OH HE TOOK HER TO DISNEY WORLD ALRIGHT

She just doesn't fucking stream. I give up, fuck it.

>>17846389
Self designs are always best, she designed herself based on what fits her and things she likes. These dumbass premade models suck and never fit the girls.

>>17846357
>She was probably diddled by her mom’s boyfriend as a kid,
I mean, she's talked about this before. By her own dad.

All you have to do is pretend to be my anime girlfriend and not have a boyfriend, why cant women do this simple task

>>17846432
Oh I don't just mean the design tho, also just how high the quality of the artwork itself is and how nice her rigging is, it's like comparing a PS3 game to a PS4 game.

>>17846482
Her dad is where she gets schizophrenia from, he abandoned her but continued having a relationship with her brother, her mom’s new boyfriend was the diddler. She talked about this on the the rapist stream she did with that one guy.

>>17845651
>>tries to ruin fauna at her debut
Qrd?

>>17846357
>bring it up in her chat then. You won’t though will you

Anon I don't think this is a good idea. Think about what you're saying and delete your post before schizos actually do that

>>17846606
No I genuinely think they should. She’s pretty level headed and sincere when people have problems, I’d actually like to hear her response to it

>>17846578
>the rapist stream she did with that one guy.
Uhhhh...?

>>17846534
>vtubers: pretending to be anime gf
>Redditcuck: why does it matter whether she has a boyfriend or collabs with males
>*unironically continues watching*
>*pretends not to seethe and have suicidal tendencies*

>>17846633
>She’s pretty level headed and sincere when people have problems, I’d actually like to hear her response to it

You have no idea what you're doing and should stop now

>>17845847
Fuck off

>the biggest rrat they have on Shadow is that she had discord mod who became a boyfriend at some point 2+ years ago
rumao

>>17845632
why can only fauna still have a bf because of old posts and not shadow? if anything it's the opposite given what's going on

>>17846633
I agree with the anon who replied to you, it's a retarded idea.
It would bring down the vibe of the stream for everyone and if she did actually lie before but for some reason chooses to reply, then she obviously would lie again so there really is no chance this would even produce any meaningful information.
There is zero benefit to mentioning it on stream, but several downsides for her, you and everyone watching.

>>17840948
Ina. Tired of her snooze fest every stream, it's not even that comfy.

>>17840948
Need I say more?

wont reveal anything but i used to know shadow, shes a fucking total nutjob lmao, surprised she got her head out of her ass to manage to get people to like her, although i just feel bad about this entire thing

>>17846719
Because she deliberately scrubbed her twitch profile and left “Eddy is my boyfriend” and nothing else. Because they gave no indicator of splitting up whatsoever and had been together for 5 years living in the same house with 2 cats. That’s a little different from Shadow having a discord moderator living in a different continent who she dated for a while.

>>17846776
Stop larping, Tom.

>>17846633
Anon it's one thing when we all have fun here shitposting on /vt/ but wanting to raid her stream to spread rrats is another thing. I don't like Shadow anymore but you have to be a real piece of shit to be deliberately invading someone at their workplace like this

>>17846727
I hold that her drawing streams are very interesting since she's a master at her craft that has spent thousands of hours studying the pen, but her gayming streams are a complete bore. The more she games and the less she draws, the worse her content on average gets

>>17846776
The menhera aspect is one of her good qualities though, as a menhera myself it makes her very relatable at times.

>>17844826
Share the clips

>>17846831
>The more she games and the less she draws, the worse her content on average gets
Also the reason. I'll add that the more confident she became over a year the more I hate her cheeky passive aggressive coping mechanism which includes: heavy sarcasm, "funny" jokes about depression and just trying to be cool or smug which doesn't suites her. And she almost never does those things when she draws but I guess she has enough of drawing offline working on big paycheck projects.

>>17846936
NTA but I think I know the part he's talking about, it seems silly to complain about being "ignored" tho, when she has 300-400 people watching she can't reply to everyone all the time of course.
I'm honestly surprised she reads messages as often as she does, I don't even chat that actively and still get replied to a good handful of times most Streams I attend.

>>17845847
shadow caters to incels specifically blame her

I'll still watch her

Anyone who’s been in shadows old discord knows she used to be the biggest hoe back in the day, talked about sexual encounters she had at ages 12-15 and shit like that. The “pure socially awkward shy girl” act is a totally recent thing

>>17841021
Western women gfe is never to be trusted.
This happened with Kiki and the pyonschizos are still coping about it

>>17846784
Honestly I respect Fauna for not attempting to hide the existence of her boyfriend on her PL account.

>>17847080
yeah but thats because shes been sexually abused

>>17846313
Shondo is as fluent in English as Hololive Miko/Luna

>>17840948
literally who

>>17846578
>raped by older man
>"ive never kissed a man im pure guys!"
lmao people actually fell for it too

The fact that she got so mad at the Needy Girl Streamer game even though she’s done the same thing deceiving her audience, saying “she’s never kissed a boy”.

>>17847100
>>17847080
I hate my brain for coming up with some pretty fucked up jokes I almost posted in reply to this.

>>17847159
I mean that isnt her fault anon
this situation is retarded but come on

>>17846079
>>17846357
What kind of cuck shit is this? If she's a whore she's a whore. Getting banned in a twitch chat doesn't change anything.

>>17847190
Intentionally deceiving her fans isnt her fault?

>>17847159
Does it count if she didn’t consent?

>>17846597
IIRC She and Fauna were friends, Fauna joined hololive, she started posting all sorts of passive aggressive menhera shit on twitter & people were speculating she was going to try to make Fauna into EN Aloe.

>>17847190
You're replying to a well poisoning shitposter

Dropped Aqua for making Coco graduate.

>>17847159
Why do women hate being called impure so much?
Like even feminists and sluts get angry when you tell them they're not pure.
They started that whole anti slutshaming movement because of it.

>>17847222
damaged goods either become whores or man haters. they can never be normal women again

It’s not her fault for being abused but she’s been in serious relationships, presumably is in an on/off relationship right now, yet she lies to her audience

>>17847249
Shadow just wants to be a cute housewife and have fun streaming, none of this schizo bullshit. Where does that put her?

>>17847284
nah she deserved it

>>17847210
Being raped as a kid isn't obviously her fault. lying to her fans about her dating life, yeah.

>>17847245
The only thing of value is their pussy and regardless of whether they agree with "purity" as an ideal or not you are still asserting that her pussy has no value

>>17847080
Meds

>>17847306
Then she should stop streaming and go be a housewife, only to inevitably cheat on her husband with somebody who looks suspiciously like her rapist

>>17847080
>it’s well known to new and old fans that she stopped going to school at 12 and became a hikki hermit
At least think up a convincing rrat newfagchama

>>17847328

>>17847172
Post them

She honestly just seems like a girl that's been abused as a child and now just wants to be accepted and regain her innocence. I wish I could reach out

>>17847368
How is she going to find someone whose housewife she can be if she doesn’t stream? She dated one of her mods before, what if she’s just streaming to find her ideal viking husband in the audience?

>>17847411
This. The pure idol thing is obviously her averting from adulthood, she obviously wants to be cared for an infantilised by her audience. She just wants to be loved purely for once, and these schizos turn it into some fucked up thing.

>>17847112
She's bri'ish

>>17847418
Ah yes a manipulative hypocrite, the perfect healthy housewife.

>>17847460
People just want to hurt someone who clearly has some deep-rooted trauma for fun. fucking gross. I want her to know that anyone with half a brain can see that, and I hope shes ok.

>>17847406
I'm too much of a simp for her, despite all this, to say actually fucked up stuff about her, I'll shitpost about Mori or Kiara if I wanna trashtalk

>>17847222
Yes, it obviously counts.

>>17847490
Anon that’s all women. At least Shadow’s a nice sweet one who genuinely wants to make everyone happy, unlike many bitches and whores out there.

>>17847522
>Anon that’s all women
lolno

>>17847510
so if a baby was raped they're a whore?

>>17847522
Based Adachi anon

>>17847531
Yes.

>>17841223
Keep in mind these faggots often encourage their GFs to be streamers and they both profit. The best way to avoid it is simply to only watch people who are entertaining regardless of gender. Amusingly this filters out most of these unfunny whores, since all they have going for them is being 'le girl'.

>>17847522
>at least
Rumao

Wait, Shondo was used good all along?
Deleting the fanart I was drawing right now.
I'm such a fool. Why would she be any different?

>>17847624
She's a virgin

>>17847094
>autistic girl
>but even she has a cockfriend
Many such cases

>>17847506
No I want to warn people not to give money to a fraud. Not like it'll help any of the white knights running damage control itt but its not like she'll ever date those incels anyway.

>>17847612
The issue with this situation is Shadow is a very competent entertainer and multi-talented. You don’t watch her because she’s GFE, sure she might hook you that way, but you stay because she’s actually consistently high quality and fun to watch. She puts her all into each and every stream and still that’s not good enough for schizos just because she had some sort of relationship over 2 years ago

>>17847612
Shadow is legit a good entertainer though, what I learned in these threads kinda just makes me wish she would drop the GFE and just be funny and based

>>17840948
Didn't we JUST have a thread where anons creamed their pants about this bitch and how she was so popular here?

>>17847624
if you're unironically telling the truth i actually feel bad for you.
i can empathise bro

>>17847730
Welcome to /vt/

I don’t care about her past, but her being a manipulative hypocrite is what I have an issue with

>>17847624
She’s a virgin, I believe her on that. She’s been saying that consistently since 2017 streams. Even when she used to refuse to do GFE whilst she was e-dating she maintained that. She’s never been a whore but yes she was molested at some point.

>>17847094
Man I wish I knew moonspeak so I could listen to GFE asmr's.

>>17847097
Poor Eddy, she must have forgotten about him after joining Hololive and getting all that money.

You KNOW it's over when there are cucks damage controlling. I remember getting a little uncomfortable when I heard her being all cutesy with the mod for a while but I ignored it. Am I just meant to serve and suffer?

>>17844137
Same ___

>>17847804
>she was molested at some point.
Proof?

Odds on (((Raid))) sponsoring her for $10k btw?
I know they pay a fuck load of money, given that she actually pulls pretty solid views I wonder if they might be willing to pay that.

>>17847767
Is there actually any evidence of that aside from the fact she deleted all tweets about her boyfriend (presumably when they broke up during her menhera hissyfit) and the fact she said she’s never been kissed by a guy? (still absolutely possible given that they were e-dating and met up for a week)

>>17847730
Dunno why anon watched her in the first place. I was filtered immediately when I heard her voice. Holy fuck even Kiara's is no where near as annoying.

>>17847522
>Anon that’s all women. At least Shadow’s a nice sweet one who genuinely wants to make everyone happy, unlike many bitches and whores out there.

>>17847506
Coping megacucks idolizing a defiled, disgusting onahole. Why are you guys even here?

>>17847372
if you weren't larping as an oldfag you'd know this isn't a rrat

>>17847833
>Am I just meant to serve and suffer?
Yes, youre a paypig. Your power is your wallet, she doesnt care about you as a person.

>>17847883
She’s kind of annoying when she gets excited and shouty but when she’s calm her voice is peak cunny kino.

Lol she’s not a virgin, her streams are disingenuous from what she’s actually like. If you were in her discord in 2017 you’d know. Bitch talked about giving blowjobs in the school bathroom

>>17847883
For me her voice is really pleasant to hear

>>17847612
>The best way to avoid it is simply to only watch people who are entertaining regardless of gender
Only post in this thread that matters. Most of the retards in this thread will continue to be lied to and upset because the vision they have in their heads of the perfect girl is from anime and movies. So of course they would understandably be upset when they begin to stalk the people they like and find out they’re not actually like anime girls in their day to day lives.

>thread starts out with people pointing out she's a grifter
>late into the thread suddenly "positive" posts about how she's good and you're mean

Discordfags should realize it's obvious when they're here, shilling.

>>17847904
Then why does she remember shit about hundreds of individual viewers? She’ll ask you how work is or how your doctors appointment went or if your phonecall with your Dad from yesterday was nice.

>>17847876
Went off on Ame from that fotm streamer game for being a terrible person because she does cutesy/gfe streams but hides having a boyfriend. Now its been revealed shadow does the same thing

>>17847900
i misandastan

>>17847833
No, you'll just suffer until you take out a loan and go on vacation to Exotica where some brownish dark haired pink nipped woman will let you fuck her for a price and then you'll get over your delusions about having an internet gf that's just like you.

>>17847730
You ever watched that one episode of South Park in which they parody the sacrifice of Britney Spears for harvest? Yea...

>>17840948
I made this mistake twice, because I already dropped once her after that infamous Cuphead collab/Gigguk Shadowverse combo.
I'm a very forgiving person, but this time she crossed the line.

>>17847936
Nobody is asking for a perfect anime girl, all I ever was bothered by is her going on rants about how a specific behavior is supposedly so terrible that it would make her bitterly hate anyone who does it, despite seemingly doing it herself.
Not wanting to be lied to by someone who specifically talks about how reprehensible they think lying is should not be too much to ask.

>>17847930
>adult women who make a big deal about not being whores are actually the biggest whores

>>17847962
Thats part of retaining you as a wallet. Hosts and Rental boyfriends in Japan do the exact same shit, its a well known business tactic

>>17847950
She doesn’t have a /vt/ audience, you’re projecting. Anons here have only cared about her for a week or two.

I hate normalfags. But most of all, I hate normalfags that pretend they aren't.
Fuck off forever Shondo.

>>17847962
memorizing basic trivia about the blog you put in her chat isn't caring about you as a person, it's smalltalk.

>>17847962
Imagine actually paying money to watch something

>>17847624
>I like skebs but when people make fanart of me is when I get more happy
I'm in the same spot, I'll stay around shadow streams just to see if something else gets mentioned about this situation but my hype for some sketchs died down, trying to do fanarts for ''influencers'' is always a double edge sword

Even when she was edating they didn’t “meet up for a week” wtf she ‘s made at least 3 trips and visited him for a few months, stayed in his house, in his room. Cope

>>17847962
That's great, but her pussy audibly soaking over the moderator in chat (for whatever reason) overrides that

>>17847730
How long did it take for /vt/ to turn on her this time? A month? I recall a few shill threads being posted.

>>17847970
But anon you’re missing critical information. She had a very public breakup well over a year before beginning vtubing. Unless she’s dating someone else whilst she shares a room with her kid sisters and doesn’t go outside that’s just bullshit rrattery.

>>17847873
I always wonder where raid gets money from.
Does anyone play that shit?

>>17848097
Doxxfag here but that was the wrong moderator dumbass.

>>17847080
>sexual encounters at ages 12-15
what the fuck

So much for the daily "why haven't you taken the indiepill yet?" "why aren't you watch the only true gfe EN chuuba?" threads I guess.

reminder that not one (1) timestamp has been posted

it's so funny this guy got btfo

>>17848133
It's actually pretty popular because of all the marketing, but it's also unironically being developed by a dev studio that has its building in the same street as Israeli intelligence agencies, so you can assume some glow money is involved with it.

>>17848158
Wow, that makes it much better! You are literally a cuckold if you're going to listen to a woman flirt and sweet talk another man while you pay her.

>>17848183
British women

>>17847930
Do you really believe it? She was what, 15 or 16 then? That discord was the cringiest edgiest place ever. People don’t actually do that and especially not when they’re fat 12 year olds.

my heart can't take this abuse, I give up on chuubas and return to my VN's

>>17848187
We still have Nene from Kawapro, but I think indies aren't reliable anymore.

>>17848192
just trust me bro! I'm an o-oldfag!

>>17848225
She flirts with everyone anon. Not just moderators, everyone.

>>17848208
>Yandere GFE, unicorn pandering actual lolicon
I didn't know this bitch beforehand, but this is the glowiest of red flags.

Mori because fuck anituber collab.

KSon because fuck anituber collab. And Coco was better.

Fuck anitubers.

>>17848101
Literally the same day she got her own 200+ general

>>17841031
Myth is the most tame out of all the branches so…

Wait Shondo is not a virgin? I can't be the first to rape her? Lads it's time to move on...

>>17848297
No the general had one peaceful thread, the second one had the boyfriend revelation in it and things became as they are now.

>>17840948
Pomu after she called idols whores

>>17840997
Based

>>17848312
Some people are saying she is, some people are also saying she was a huge whore as a 12 year old social outcast. Feel free to choose a rrat to your liking.

>>17848034
>Gigguk
That fucking faggot should get raped by niggers.

>>17848349
She is right

>>17843969
arent most of the jp holo twice as lewd tho? Lmfao

>>17848054
How is she a normalfag dough?

>>17848443
Boyfriend.

>>17848403
i don't get the >western whores bit when noel literally has a camwhoring side gig and several holos constantly bring up molesting each other

>>17848470
Anon they had a public breakup over a year ago.

>>17848489
And?
She still had one.

>>17848489
Stop posting, tourist. You type like a fag and your shit's all retarded.

>>17848187
>why aren't you watch

>>17848472
idk who noel is but sure. people nitpick indie/westerners for being lewd and just choose to ignore some the shit jp do. I personally find it funny like when coco did a pube shaving asmr stream

>>17848039
>all I ever was bothered by is her going on rants about how a specific behavior is supposedly so terrible that it would make her bitterly hate anyone who does it, despite seemingly doing it herself.
That’s called hypocrisy. And, you’re already being lied to when they all present themselves as anime girls. It’s just part of the experience. The streamers are choosing deliberately to present themselves a certain way, even if they are nothing like that IRL. If you want honesty, it would be more beneficial to go through the problems of an actual relationship instead of relying on GFE streamers for that experience. There is still lying and dishonesty irl, but at least people can’t hide behind an avatar.

>>17848472
>it's okay when JP does that

>>17848403
Yes they are. But last samurais overlook it because they can’t even understand what they are talking about most of the time.

>>17848567
shirogane noel from hololive, her VA sells adult vids

I just don’t understand why everyone’s having a meltdown over her doing GFE with a boyfriend even though they broke up with the whole menhera meltdown and discord announcements to boot way before she started doing GFE. She outright refused to do GFE whilst she had a boyfriend and only started well after they broke up.

>>17848279
Thats...actually even worse. gfe streams really are a clowncar of incels and cucks

>>17848644
That's not really what most people are complaining about, read the thread

>>17848349
>unhinged Pomu was the Alex Jones of vtubing

>>17848620
oh shit really? nice

>>17848567
Some of the shit the JP holos pull off is insane. If any EN did 1/10 of the shit Marine does(just an example, nothing personal) there would be at least 5 threads at any time talking about how she's a whore and is ruining Hololive. Schizos here just don't care because they don't understand the language

>>17848349
Based fairy

>>17848489
Ever having a relationship makes you a normalfag. Where the fuck did you come from that you dont know this?

>>17848615
Yeah true. Honestly idk how hard it is but they could try having a translator while the stream happens i dont really watch jp much tho

>>17848241
>using trannyscord
ngmi

I knew SHondo was trouble when she did the 'ara ara' voice. You could see the real whore leaking out.

>>17848192
Post one then

>>17848736
yeah i think people just want a reason to complain about westerners/en

>>17848472
NO! you don’t understand! Noel does porn in a seiso and idol-like way! She’s so pure when she does porn!

>>17848759
Dating one of your discord mods? Yeah ok

>>17848349
Link me her channel right now

>>17848849
Yes.

>>17848470
Fair enough

>>17848849
Still counts. Far more embarrassing though.

>>17848896
Fair enough. I guess when you're a menhera neet that didn't finish school and has no future aside from streaming your dating options are a little limited. And still he broke up with her. Damn

>>17848946
>tfw menhera neet that didn't finish school and has no future

>Noel exists so all the horrific shit western vtubers do is OK
You love to see it

>>17848946
Being a menhera neet does not stop women from getting railed. It literally does not matter.

The thing about Shondo is that she doesn't need to do GFE. She would be a popular and well liked streamer because she's competent and multi-talented even if she didn't. It's not her selling point. She does it because she's as parasocial with her chat as they are with her. She stalks her viewers and demands their unsolicited attention. She wasn't like this when she had a boyfriend. People thinking she still does are actually retarded, she's as desperately reliant on her chat as she would be her boyfriend. No wonder the fucker went back to being friends, all of that and he still couldn't get laid?

>>17848946
KAngel......

>>17848644
>menhera meltdown
What?

>>17849027
I'm now starting to think you're actually the boyfriend.
Has she seen this thread yet?

>>17849027
This 'parasocial with her chat' thing is a meme. Her character is supposed to be borderline yandere. Women want the affection of an individual, which she is probably getting on Discord and its not (you).

>>17848736
That's because 'muricunts are mentally ill.
Claiming to be puritans while enabling degenerate shit like faggots and trannies.

He didnt break up with her. She broke up with him and announced on her discord that she's lesbian. and now she's not apparently??? Confusing.

>>17849064
When they broke up in December 2020 she went on this weeklong rage banning people from the discord, freaking out and probably taking shit and cutting herself, she used to do that. She then just went completely offline for a few days, came back and announced they'd broken up and she was now a lesbian. Whenever fucked up shit happened she used to be real prone to making it very public. It's nice to see she's been keeping it more under wraps the last year or two at least.

>>17843216
If you get into a position of power you get to fuck the woman*. It's one of the rules of this world, anon, try to keep up.

Of course, simply being a mod is a pathethic way to go about it and probably won't work besides, but it technically counts

>>17849027
You are so valid and needed anon, keep repeating it she loves you so much!

>>17848991
Learn how to code

>>17848946
>And still he broke up with her
he realized what people itt are trying to damage control was the truth

>>17849141
schizoaffective disorder diagnosed and on therapy, you can't really think much about it when relationship might have started and ended entirerly on how the meds are working

>>17849003
>horrific
AHHHHH TASUKETE NIGGERMAN! UNIDOL-LIKE BEHAVIOUR! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>17849211
>learn to code
>"minimum requirement: 10 years of java/c++ verifiable experience"

>>17849243
Kek

>>17849211
Codemonkeys are being replaced by AI and third worlders as we speak, that's not really worth getting into anymore

>>17849074
Of course that modcuck is doing damage control

>>17841021
What else were you expecting from such a slut?

>>17840997
100%
I don't mind them collabing with male streamers, it's that the male streamers they collab with happen to be insufferable

>>17840948
Might be Tsukumo Sana soon.

I was a fan of her roommate for a very long time, and wanted to oshi her as a support for her vtuber career, but honestly this was probably a "never meet your heroes" moment for me. I wasn't aware of how cringe, and even lewd she actually was in reality, and assumed she was a pure weeb girl. I still love her art work and will continue to support her roommate, but i'm not a fan of her as a streamer unless it's just her doing art which she's made obvious that she's never gonna do serious art streams.

I think i'll just move onto Gura, at the very least her schedules are more varied.

>>17849238
I'm on the spectrum (moderate autism), I have OCD, and I'm also an antisocial schizoid, yet I'm doing fine, no need for any meds.

>>17849279
I have a WFH coding job and I earn good money while wasting half of my working hours sleeping or at my hobbies. I constantly get praises from my boss because the shit I deliver is well made. Good code is timeless. Even machines that code have to be coded by a human. If in 20 years you get replaced by coding AI then during that time you can specialize yourself so you become irreplaceable.

You can keep being in a mental hole telling yourself nothing is "worth it", or you can choose to actually try at things and maybe find some success. It's the ideal job for shut in autists yet a lot of them look at some Programming 101 code and puke before even giving it a try.

>>17849153
>cutting herself
I will never understand that.
Pointless attention whoring.

>>17849449
youre here, arent you?

>>17849483
NGS actually explained it kind of well. Women cut for the same reason Kyles punch drywall

>>17849260
Use linkedln.

>>17849407
Imagine the world where Sana does drawing streams instead of pokemon. What a sight.

>>17848708
Its just ero ASMR. They are deliberately trying to make it sound like JAV to make it sound worse

>>17849475
Very good post

>>17849475
>a lot of them look at some Programming 101 code and puke before even giving it a try.
Literally me

>>17849475
You're right bro, I just have such a hard time getting started with things but even more with staying focused on them.
I wish I had someone in my life who could help me figure things out, it's so hard alone. I need a P-chan.

>>17847889
I love this picture

>>17849475
This. The job is not difficult and get very good pay. Now if only I got a clojure job..I would be more happy

>>17849564
she used to do a lot of art streams back when she was on Deviantart. Some of the funnest/chillest streams i've ever been in. Was hoping there'd be a repeat of those times with Sana.. such a shame

>>17849475
You get endless praise even for pajeet level code seriously lower end developers are still way overvalued may as well get in now to pad your resume/CV and get enough on your feet to move on to other self-improvement.

>>17849475
Do you have a degree? Are you an engineer?

>>17849982
I knew her before a little, been following her roommate on blue bird after the release of jellyfish boi in gacha game. Was hoping she'll chose Ina route but instead it was Ayame. Sad life but I'll live with Council being almost total failure

>>17840948
On a related note, Kana.

>>17850076
Not the anon you're replying to, but I earn 100k without a degree coding in C# and java.

>>17849982
Time, money and success change people.

I do miss early Ina, the one doing Inacademy, even if she wasn't that good at explaining art stuff at least she was more enthusiastic and was trying to genuinely help the audience get better at art, and that was endearing and her biggest selling point to me. Eventually she got bored of the plebs and dropped it, increased the frequency of fake, self depreciating humor by tenfold despite being successful at everything she does, and became jaded and stopped putting in effort in her streams in general. I can barely stomach the current one so I get it somehow

>>17850159
Not a complete failure, mind you!

>>17850243
>The 2 with a [DATA EXPUGNED] are the only ones I enjoy
How the turn tables.

>>17850238
Did Ina say why she dropped Inacademy or was it just silently dropped? Those were some of her cuter streams... I remember her musing about how she would still be doing it when she was an old lady and wondering how her takos are doing in life.

>>17850204
Holy shit
I'm wasting my money, sweat and tears in this fucking university

>>17850517
As one anon posted before, linkedin is a very good thing.

>>17850517
University is a scam but if you have bad work ethic like most teenagers do, it will drill the basics into you and that stupid piece of paper will prove you can be a good serf and follow instructions to some degree. It does make you more employable, but it can be done without it

>>17850517
What are you studying?

>>17850651
Computer Engineering
>>17850583
>>17850585
At least I'm almost done with it

>>17850408
She very clearly got bored of having to answer the same basic ass questions ad nauseam. The average vtuber watcher won't make use of those lessons so I guess she just found it unsatisfying and a waste of time. And she's always short of time, so she dropped it.

I remember one time one of her fucking members told her "you only like drawing because you are already good at it" during a class 0and I saw her genuinely angry for the first time. She went on a 15 minute rant. I get it somewhat, dealing with those people every week was exhausting, but still those lessons were content I looked forward to every week and her stopping was a big part on me stopping watching her,

>>17850778
>"you only like drawing because you are already good at it"
What a faggot. You have a rare chance to watch professional at this level doing casual drawing stream and answering your stupid question and say this bullshitery? Holy fuck some people are just ungrateful or too young to understand.

Why did this thread suddenly stop being a shitfest when we hit page 11..?

>>17850678
If youre determined to go the engineer route, do a masters in something that benefits from a p.eng licence and go into that. I'm in energy infrastructure consulting and make 1% salary

>>17850972
Threads tend to get better when they're about to die

>>17850972
The schizos went on to other threads on the catalog to spread their vile and mental illness and the only people left are the ones not arguing in bad faith