/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>1772048
>opinions?
None.

>that piano music
>that cutting
Clippers giveth stardom, clippers giveth drama. A cancer and a blessing, rolled into one.

>>1772048
i don't really care but imagine if she cut herself on stream, that would be so fucking hot

>>1772048
already been discussed, delete yourself

>>1772048
My opinion is that the orange woman is bad, of course.

The clipper seems credible on this matter

>>1772048
Kiara needs to learn to take criticism and not create sob moments like this because it only fuels the antis to post comments which she then takes to heart. The "validation" she gets from KFP is the real culprit behind her sadness because they contain her in a hugbox where she can never improve herself. Sadly, Kiara is already known to be menhera and attention seeking so it isn't surprising that she falls for these traps anyways.

>>1772216
This.

Her reaction to the criticism just confirmed to me that she will never improve.

>>1772216
or she could exploit the fuck out of it, thrive on it, and turn into hololive's yeezy

>>1772270
based

>>1772048
The more Kiara hate I see the more I legitimately think she's gonna kill herself and destroy hololive in the process

>>1772048
i mean...

here's the thing: yes, you can't please everyone and yes, you shouldn't react to all the hate you get in life. 100% true statements 95% of humans should agree with.
but just because you can't achieve perfection doesn't mean you don't aim for it, or atleast to be better. and criticism is almost ALWAYS useful -- it's just that you have to properly contextualize it and not necessarily react to it.
she can take criticism and use it to better herself without feeding trolls and getting attention. she doesn't have to take the extreme position of responding to everything and taking everything on 100% or the extreme position of ignoring everything and refusing to take any criticism to heart.

at the end of the day this is fairly basic shit which annoys me. it shouldn't have to be said that criticism is more than a thing to have a binary reaction to. you can give any opinion a variance of weight, you don't have to completely accept or completely reject anything -- i think it's actually indicative of a bad personality to completely reject or accept any opinion of yourself.

>>1772216
There's constructive criticism, and then there's outright hate. Unfortunately, there's far more of the latter than the former so the former tends to get drowned out or confused for the latter.

>>1772270
Click the button anon, show us you had the balls to do it.

>>1772314
4chan deludes reality by a lot, nobody realistically gives a shit about any of this

>>1772178
BASED

>>1772216
> The "validation" she gets from KFP
I don't know what percent of her chat is antis, but didn't she recently complained about the negative comments towards her in her own chatroom?

>>1772339

>>1772288
Kiara going full heel would be amazing. She’s going to need her own anti board

A thread that was probably good died for Kiara shitposting general #12381981. Are you happy?

>>1772048
FRUSTRATION IS GETTING BIGGER
BANG BANG BANG
PULL MY MENHERA TRIGGER

>>1772048
>Hate comments
All I see is circlejerk comments with names like
>______ - KFP cum dispenser
who always praise her. What the fuck is she talking about? Where are those hate comments?

>>1772392
there's this myth online that you can take on extreme amounts of hatred with no effect on your personal well being. that it's atleast possible.
it's not.
and kiara is not exactly a top contending example for someone arguing such is possible.

she couldn't and wouldn't take on actual hate beyond this tame shit. i mean, you saw japan right? the bike guy? shit can get worse and she obviously can't handle it.

>>1772444
Here, retard.

>>1772400
>oh no, the feet, rrat, and watamelon threads!

Good, taking out the trash

>BPD AND ECSTASY

>>1772048
>options?
Hate

>>1772392
The thing is - how do you monetize that? This isn't WWE where people pay for a ticket and you actually get money, because even though people dislike you, they liked the event.
You need people to give you superchats and buy memberships.

>>1772444
Here

Is there a bigger "woe is me"er than Kiara?

>>1772400
Sorey shartemis

>>1772346
Kiara does

>>1772475
>>1772542
But KFPfags always insisted that she doesn't come to this place anymore.

>>1772392
>kiara's career follows the same trajectory as the rock's
fuck that would be kino. I don't really care about her one way or the other but I love seeing shit like that happening

>>1772048
>All of this could be avoided if she stopped coming to this board
What a fucking retarded chicken. Schizo opinions are worth less than literal shit. Get constructive criticism from your genmates

>>1772682
She literally said it came from KFP

>>1772048
Where exactly is she getting hate comments? There not on her chat, not her Youtube comments, not on Reddit, its just here.

KIARA is literally HERE

>>1772692
No shit retard

>>1772497

I don't hate you Kiara, I just want you to be as successful and happy as possible and a few small changes are all that would take

Add KFPs to the anti list. Pic is the thing she was crying about.

>>1772715
Eat shit

While there is wisdom to be found anywhere, you should not waste your time trying to please antis. If they sincerely hate you then they do not have your interests in mind. It is the same reason you should never apologize to retards on twitter, even if you think they are right, they are not throwing shade because they want to help you, but because they want to help themselves.

>>1772775
Stupid dumb frogposting scum, go back to plebbit.

>>1772691
>>1772789
KFPs are Kiara antis and it isn't even a joke. They falseflag as her antis and argue with themselves here.

>>1772048
She's right, you're getting triggered easier than a twitter tranny.

>>1772692
who on this board would complain about the use of the word "poop"?

>>1772852
It's not antis that are shitting on her retard, it's KFP

>>1772882
Shitskins

>>1772789
>friendly and polite criticism
>anti
there is a world of difference between fan feedback and the screeching you see here

>>1772865
This, one of her biggest paypigs and supporter can't stop criticizing her in chat. What did chicken do to get such a schizo fanbase?

>>1772882
nyanners-antis

>>1772691
>>1772789
>>1772897
They couldn't possibly sugarcoat this criticism more
Shut the fuck up retard

>>1772048
Chikim is her own anti, holy shit.

>>1772159
>Clippers giveth stardom, clippers giveth drama.
thats why theres such a love/hate relationship with them

>>1772048
She sees no fault on her, she sees no reason to change, she will not grow as a streamer and person with that attitude.

>>1772497

>>1772178
Based.

>punishment in uno game
>half assedly and annoyed say moew instead of taking it as a punishment entertaining the viewers
>cant go one stream(or thread) without self doxxing
IS MY BOY CALLIOPE MORI LITERALLY UNTOUCHABLE????

>>1773034
>WAAAH WAAAHH WHY AREN'T THEY SCREECHING LIKE MEEE YOU NEED TO BE AN INCOMPREHENSIBLE SCHIZO OR ELSE IT DOESN'T COUNT

I mean, the poopoo baby scene was really bad.
But besides that and crying about the criticism to her audience I enjoy Kiara's performance

>>1772497
>BRIGHT DYED HAIR AND OBNOXIOUS CLOTHES
>THINKS COMMUNISM IS THE WAY TO GO
>SHES A WHORE A HOLE
>A DIME A DOZEN JEZEBEL

>>1772172
based

>>1773185
Literally not my point you turboautist

>>1773114
This. It's honestly pointless to try to fix her. If the hate is overwhelming she will change that specific thing solely to pacify the backlash against her. It's not because she agrees she fucked up and it's not her trying to change more fundamentally. It's just a band-aid patch going symptom by symptom while ignoring the problem that causes it (extreme egomania and need for attention).

>BPD AND ECSTASY, 30 YEARS OLD BUT ACTS LIKE SHE'S 16
>LIKES TO GO TO SHOWS 'CAUSE SHE'S SO FUCKING COOL
>BRIGHT-DYED HAIR BUT DEAD INSIDE
>PLAN-B LIFETIME SUPPLY
>SHE'S A WHORE, A HOLE, GAVE HEAD SINCE MIDDLE SCHOOL
>ONLY PEDOPHILES IN DENIAL THINK SHE'S ANYTHING WORTHWHILE
>HER INFERTILE LIFESTYLE WILL DRIVE YOU WILD
>SHE'S AN ALCOHOLIC LOSER BITCH THAT LIKES TO LISTEN TO SHITTY MUSIC
>SHE DRINKS AND SMOKES AND TOKES AND CHOKES ON DICK

Maybe she should try being less annoying

>>1772216
I don't like that she needs to constantly deflect any sort of negative comments or criticism.
If someone says they don't like TakaMori she deflects that the fans are liking it.
If someone says she needs to stop talking and let someone else speak she deflects that there are going to be awkward dead air.
If someone says the baby talk wasn't the greatest she deflects that it was a punishment and part of the game.

>>1772365
Based

>>1772332
Mostly because Kiara's behavior feeds hate while filtering both.

I feel bad for her. I don't want to see someone crash and burn especially someone relatively high profile. I don't watch her but I hope she can find some balance when it comes to jokes or whatever her problem is.

>>1772048
>clipfag thread
/jp/ was right

>>1773114
>clickbait video
>falls for it
I'm not going to assume you don't watch Kiara, I'm going to assume you don't watch any of them.

my opinion is that seeing kiara suffer and struggle is very very hot

IMMA GONNA SHIT THOSE PANTS REAL GOOD

>>1773442
But anon, we can't let her get the nuclear codes!

>>1773484
Go back

>>1772661
>>kiara's career follows the same trajectory as the rock's
Not even close. People booed the rock because they liked him and it's for show. People boo kiara because they fucking hate her and mean it.

>>1773543
HEY LIL' GURRI
I JUST TOOK MY EMPLOYEES OUT FOR MEXICAN FOOD

>>1773594
Theres plenty of it for show (at least here).

>>1773070
This
if this is what cracks Kiara I am concerned what will happen when a Coco-like anti situation happens to her

A lot of the criticism here is pretty shit, the only valid criticism Kiara faces is that she needs to chill out and realize that dead air isn't bad and can actually make whatever you say more impactful. If it actually negatively affects the collabs atleast say you tried. Also, stop talking about numbers and criticisms it just fuels them more, 99% of hate on here is uncalled for from some shit that wasn't even that bad.

>>1772048
Oh, I see. She's pink cat, but idolfag and actually codependent on her audience.

>>1773677
ALSO GET A FUCKING MIXER YOUR VOICE IS SO GODDAM LOUD, YOUR OLD MIC SOUNDED BETTER

>>1772048
I really want to like her, but her personality is way too aggressive and loud, especially in full EN collabs. She literally is constantly talking over everyone. I want the best for her, but she just needs to take a step back and look at herself and how she's presenting this character from an EN point of view. It does not mesh well with most of her gen.

>>1772789
The term anti has lost all meaning

>>1773677
This, it also gives her more time to think about what she's saying instead of just blurting out whatever.

>>1772048
Kiara is going to graduate at this pace and I don't want that, simply because the other girls would feel terrible about it.
Hopefully she learns something from this and tries to tone down her antics for collabs. She can do whatever she wants on solo streams.

>>1772314
Kiara has a long history of harassment, she isn't going to kill herself because someone complained about her scat fetish.

>>1773787
>Kiara is going to graduate
She's not cutting her source of income, because of some faggots spamming her with anti shit. She doesn't have a comfortable pile of cash to retreat to.

Watame must have really chewed her out after the collab

>>1774051
They played Janken except Watame picked rock the whole time and split Kiara's scissors.

>>1774051
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHmtRv9vxhY

>>1774051
I want to think that the game Watame played after the collab was a not so subtle jab. That Kiara failed to notice.

>>1774183
what game was it?

>>1774244
No idea of the name, it's in japanese.
Basically, a game of being "polite" by japanese standards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe-2YZGs200

>>1773594
Initially, when he debuted as a generic babyface and got pushed to the IC title, "Rocky sucks" was real hate and the fans actually wanted him gone. It made him miserable but he managed to turn it around, and "Rocky sucks" turned into a term of endearment. He did a Q&A about it on Insta (which I think Kiara should watch), summarized here https://411mania.com/wrestling/the-rock-on-rocky-sucks-being-his-wwe-career-low-considering-another-career-after-that-turning-it-into-his-career-high/

>>1772789
this azrael is a faggot

As zoomers say, Kiara needs to learn to take an L. She keeps deflecting criticisms like that Overwatch guy. She deflected Takamori being cringe by "well uuhhh its the fans that want it???". She deflected overtalking people by "well uuhhh dead silence???" And now she deflected her annoying baby shit jokes by "well uuhh batsu geemu???"
She also needs to stop listening to her circlejerk kfphaggots but at this point she needs legit menhera therapy.

>>1774388
Welcome newfriend, you fit right in

>>1774314
That's KuukiYomi, a game based on "reading the room". Basically what Kiara can't do at all. Damn.

>>1774388
>now she deflected her annoying baby shit jokes
Kek. She even said that it's probably "cultural difference", which means shitting jokes are ingrained in German culture according to her.

>>1774388
the only way someone like that learns how to handle an L is by taking an L so great they can't possibly recover from - them forming a good sense of self-critique overnight is nigh impossible

What is it about Kiara's existence that causes /vt/ to go into a frothing rage?

>>1774620
Orange woman bad.

>>1774498
holy shit lmao

>>1774590
and even after taking the L, it needs a certain amount of maturity on their part, but more often than not they double down and learn nothing

>>1774620
A couple well-motivated antis who can incite a discussion when Kiara does something that can be talked about

>>1772048
I dont even mind kiara but does she honestly not understand why people would find it off-putting to talk about shitting yourself for an hour? Is she that clueless?

>>1774620
KFP falseflaggers.

>>1774620
KFP and Kiara herself playing both sides and reaping attention and clout in the process.

>>1772532
How much money do you think Coco makes from pissed off bugs per day?

>>1772789
>Be Kiara
>Everyone hates you
>Get into Hololive EN and finally become an idol
>You're the least popular
>Its fine because you have hardcore fans
>Still get hate but try to ignore it
>Ignore it poorly
>Time passes
>Even your hardcore fans are now starting to criticize you now
>Despite trying every angle you're still neck in neck for dead last of the gen with the girl whose generally well liked and doesn't try as hard

You know, I think she deserves a lot of the criticism, but every once in a while I stop and think damn, it must suck to be Kiara. A great example of just because you put in effort doesn't mean you'll be well received.

>>1774521
I...wouldn't be surprised if that's the case.

>>1774863
don't forget getting shadowbanned because the KFP discord attempted viewer manipulation of her streams

>>1774314
she played it IMMEDIATELY after the collab. it was too good to be a coincidence

>>1774931
ogey

>>1774931
that's a new one

>>1772332
Too bad you retards dont understand the difference between "hate" and "constructive criticism". Everyone was giving constructive criticism about her when she debuted and all KFP retards would do is ignore the facts and call everyone a hater. This lead to her fanbase being overly protective and making everyone hate them which only harms Kiara in the long run. Both the Oshi and her fans are at fault for all of this.

>>1775021
KFP discord organized a whole lot of sockpuppet accounts to sub to her to inflate her sub numbers and got tagged by the algorithm which is honestly fucking hilarious

She should try improving her content and gimmick to something more than "hololive mark" instead of playing the victim for the 745445325th time this month.

>>1772332
Does this go for all public figures? Like did you ever say "Yeah there's constructive criticism then there's outright hate" to defend Donald Trump or Kim Kardashian? Some public figures take a lot of shit, sometimes it's their fault, sometimes it isn't but I don't understand why a random vtuber is where you draw the line about being too mean to a celebrity.

>>1775021
it isn't actually, channels get shadowbanned all the time for sub/viewer manipulation. it's all automated because google sees literally everything people do.

>>1775086
screenshot? I cba to join some autistic discord

>>1775134
She has some of the most diverse content among the EN girls though. It's sad but what's rejected is her natural sense of humor, which just rubs people the wrong way. I think this has to do with her being Austrian though because Germans have a pretty terrible sense of humor.

>>1775086
unless you actually have proof, thats a big rrat. most people agree it was either because she logged on her account from nene's house or because she moved to another country

Just remember anons, there's a human behind the anime girl. If you don't like someone, simply don't watch their stream. I don't enjoy the chicken's stream and am living just fine without hateposting on a Laotian origami forum.

>>1772048
Does this this small board in this small site really hold that much influence?

YOU COULD HAVE SAVED HER, ANON
BUT YOU DIDN'T TWEET IT

>>1775227
>Laotian origami forum
I miss the Mongolian basketweaving forum

>>1775191
I don't watch the EN girls but from the collabs she's done with the Japanese girls, her personality is offputing.

>>1775227
Except that most people got annoyed because she ruined a collab with all of the girls they also want to watch.

>>1774848
If it was only bugs - not enough to make a living, I don't think its sustainable to rely on people hatewatching you.

>>1773025
>everyone who hates Kiara is a schizo
>everyone who supports Kiara is a schizo
everyone is a schizo to you autists.

>>1775201
they don't shadowban or flag your account for that, stupid. youtube can see where views are being redirected from and where subs are coming from and if their system thinks they are illegitimate it automatically flags the account aka shadowban.

>>1775314
Have you been on this board for more than 5 minutes? Buzzwords are literally the zeitgeist.

>>1775327
So about that proof though?

>>1774521
Is that why Mori looked so disgusted here and Gura just looked done?

https://youtu.be/rPKcmD1QIds?t=6002

I'm actually starting to believe the rrat that either Mori or Gura wrote that "after discord talk" about the poop with Kiara.

>>1772542
>>1772475
Maybe she should stop coming to the asshole of the Internet. While it's not impossible to find constructive criticism here, this place also shits on every single vtuber for the tiniest reason and makes stuff up when there is nothing to hate.

>>1775327
that doesnt prove anything, though if you do actually know how shadowbans work, i'd love to see where you read all that. not even trying to troll, im legit curious.
also other vtubers got hit by shadowbans/video removals around the same time

So it's true that Watame collab broke her... What the fuck did sheep even say to her to incite this reaction?

Less getting hurt and more becoming more bearable. She's in her twenties, not some 50 something person who's set in her ways and can't help being unbearable.
Pretty sure she now has the money to bring her menhera ass to see a psychiatrist if need be.

I'm tired.

What did i miss why is Kiara again doing this?

>>1774590
Self-reflection doesn't come naturally to most people, literally 99% of e-celebs just double down on their stances when they have yabs and dying channels. People shouldn't be surprised that vtubers are the same. Especially since they are fucking women.

>>1775407
>Is that why Mori looked so disgusted here and Gura just looked done?
Those are just their models' expressions you gigaretard

Yes, this is why I tune in to VTubers... self flagellation and whining about their viewers being "triggered." What baffles me is she did pretty good during the beginning of the MC stream, wasn't too loud or obnoxious and acted pleasant over all. Then it was like she filled up her Stacy meter or something, and it just rushed out of her. Goddamn.

>>1775343
Its on a whole different level with KFPfags.

>>1775504
Okay, sure, their expressions weren't "real." Whatever. Even looking beyond the fact they've been using the models for six months and know how to get the expression they want across, how about them saying, "WTF KIARA?"

>>1775504
And they reflect their actual expressions too.

>>1773180
Yo, this is like, totally yeet my dude.

>>1775504
>implying that fags on this board understand that they have to actually control the expressions actively
Why do you have any faith in these retards?

>>1775407
>after discord talk

What?

>Kiara raises her menhera annoyance level to 11 again
>why is everyone so triggered, i'm so sad, KFP save me
she will never learn huh

yeah well I think kiara is funny and I hope that opinion matters

Chimken will actually take the criticism and improve. Love chimken.

>>1772048
if u don't like her just ignore her lol.

>>1775439
That collab went fine. Watame was looking forward to more too. The UNO one was seemingly the problem.

>>1775448
Being younger sometimes makes it harder to realize you are making mistakes. Someone she trusts needs to tell her that though, it’s not going to happen by reading comment on the internet. She needs career advice, not mental health advice.

>>1772048
she cares to much for randoms opinions

>>1775731
If she did, then she'd address those comments instead of making up a tangent.

>>1775439
Watame did something wrong.

>>1775227
I'm gonna avoid her stream and shitpost her too.

>>1774314
kek, but watame announced she wanted to play it before the collab

>>1775740
>Actually blaming Watame for Kiara's established patterns outside of interacting with Watame.
Big think.

>>1775623
This was posted later that day.

*the girls are saying their good byes, Kiara goes to stand by and cuts the live audio*
>Kiara: "OK it's off, you girls have fu-"
>Calliope: "Kiara... WHAT. THE FUCK?"
>Kiara: "What?"
>Ina: "Kiara.... *wheezes* wh-y oh God"
*Ina continues laughing, with little control of her voice*
>Gura: "Ohmygosh Kiara... *Giggles* What was THAT?!"
>Kiara: "WHAT???!? What did I do?"
*Ina is now howling, slamming her desk*
>Calliope: "W-WHY DID YOU KEEP TALKING ABOUT SHITTING YOURSELF?"
>Kiara: "B-but because am baby! Get it? It was funny! Babies shit their pants so I thought..."
*Ina is now wheezing, coughing*
>Calliope: "Yeah dude, but you said it like 6 times my dawg! Even after the baby round was over. And no one laughed dude! What the heck dawg?"
>Kiara: "INA'S LAUGHING RIGHT NOW!"
*Ina is now barely audible, she has fallen on to the floor gasping for oxygen*
>Gura: "OHUOOOOOOOH NOOO SHE'S LAUGHING AT YOU! WHAT KINDA STOOPID ARE YA?"
>Kiara: Wha? I don't understand, babies shit? They shit their pants. Lots of shit! PISS AND SHIT EVERYWHERE! Am baby!! AM BABBY! *Various shitbird noises* Oh shit... Hold on Jenma is calling me~
>and so kiara was bonked, again, and she ranted to her cult followers.
*end scene*

>>1772048
Get off this board Kiara. We have nothing but hatred and criticism for every EN vtuber. You're just the flavor of the week right now.

>>1775627
It does matter. It’s just that when you are trying to entertain an audience, you need to know what works with that audience. If one person laughs and ten groan, it just didn’t work and you need to adjust. It’s a hard thing to do.

>>1773677
>99% of hate on here is uncalled for
No its not, you're just a pussy.

>>1774620
introverts get drained by extroverts

>>1775769
this is a lie, nobody actually hates ina.

I don't understand why she draws so much hate when Moona and Matsuri are twice as dumb and vulgar as Kiara. Maybe it's english viewers not knowing what's up?

>>1772048
Kiara is fine but if she cant differentiate trolls, antis and schizos from normal critiques she deserves complete and utter failure. Fuck this hand-holding babying shit

That goes for all vtubers that come here not just Kiara.

>>1772048
Honestly, I hope she’s reading over this thread. I’m no Kiara anti, in fact, I’m a unity man myself, I want everyone to succeed. However, successful people don’t believe themselves to be absolutely perfect, they are constantly evolving, trying to figure out what is good for them. In the case of the Idol industry, I see that you have to make sure what’s good for yourself and your constituency. Kiara, the anti’s make up less than like, 5% of the faggots who post on this board. You shouldn’t listen to them, but the people who criticize you. You need to hear proper critique and evolve Kiara. The problem is, as I see it, is that there’s so much criticism that you’ve blocked it out, and you can’t do that. Amelia’s debut was a train wreck. The next stream she had done was 1000% fantastic, she calmed down, chilled out and was fine. I do not accredit her atrocious debut to caffeine and lack of sleep. She took the critique, didn’t complain, didn’t cry about it, realized she needed to stop the fake personality and became her normal self.

>>1772048
I like Kiara but she does not take criticism well at all. She is defensive but in a clearly insecure way. Even though she is dismissing all the criticism and acting indignant, you can tell she has no confidence in what she is saying.
She would feel alot better if she just admitted to herself that she made some cringey jokes and just move on. That happens to all entertainers. People werent offended that she mentioned poop, it was just that the whole joke was delivered poorly and made her cohosts super awkward. Thats all. Its not even a big deal.
Instead, she just doubles down, even though she totally knows it was cringey. That is only going to make her feel worse.

>>1775786
Moona and Matsuri fans are bros (minus L*ger)
Moona's relation developed naturally with Pekora.
Matsuri gets shat on when she shows how menhera she is like the Luna breakup era.

>>1775801
>Honestly, I hope she’s reading over this thread.
I hope she fucking doesn't.
Kiara, get off 4chan, it's not good for you.

>>1775801
She already said that she wants to use less swear words and will never say the p-word again. I think she is trying her best to imrpove but you cannot change over night. Things take time and it is hard to get rid of habits, especially when you have to talk all the time. I don't want to pause and think about everything she says. That would feel unnatural to me and the viewers. I'm doing my best.

>>1775895
Oh and also they never cried about low growth when they were down in the pits.
Matsuri gen 1 and Moona IDgen 1 deserve respect.

>>1775786
Ah, yes, the KFP's MO: everyone goes under the bus.

>>1775854
where are you getting "doubled down" from? she said--repeatedly and explicity--that she was going to take time to understand and incorporate the commentary. In the streams since the last collab she's had a decidedly different affect. You seem hung up on her confusion of poop's offensiveness, which is fair because that's kind of funny, but if you don't watch full streams please don't opine about her reaction.

>>1775801
She already said that she wants to use less swear words and will never say the p-word again. I think she is trying her best to improve but you cannot change over night. Things take time and it is hard to get rid of habits, especially when you have to talk all the time. She probably doesn't want to pause and think about everything she says. That would feel unnatural to her and the viewers. She's doing her best.

>>1775935
Actually, now that I think about it, how many times have the JP girls had public meltdowns about numberfagging? I'm sure it happened, but I can't place when and where.

>>1772048
>Click catalog
>ctrl+f kiara
>7 results
You people are unbelievably obsessed

>>1775657
A good part of how unbearable she is actually stems from her mental health. She can't follow business advice if she's so deep into her histrionic/borderline disorder that it blatantly shows on what's supposed to be her job.

>>1774699
Theres totally no reason to be annoyed by the trash chicken.

>>1775976
KFP plays both sides to get attention and to solidify the narrative that Kiara is a victim

>>1775967
I saw that before you edited it Kiara. I love you, you are adorable, your stream today was charming. Keep doing your best and we'll keep supporting you as long as you want us to.

>>1775965
I did watch the stream. She spent more time griping about how "triggered" her viewers were than about promising to change. It's a step in the right direction, but it's a BABY step. (See what I did there? Did you shit your pants over my joke? Shit those pants real good.)

>>1775301
It is, DSP and a lot of fat youtubers make a really good living off it, you just got to game it.

>>1775781
There were some Ina hate threads a few days ago. Probably just bait or seething KFP's though.

>>1776009
Did you want her to shave her head and rub ashes on her face? She reflected seriously on what people were saying, and we saw her processing it.

>>1776039
The hate threads lasted about four samefag posts before they turned into support threads.

>>1776015
>kiara is the DSP of hololive
fucking lol

>>1776015
never understood the hate for him. yes, he certainly has his flaws but he never made me want to punch a wall like all those other little bitches who stream games for a living.

I sincerely hope Kiara does not change out of what a loud minority thinks about her. She should stand her ground and continue to be who she wants to be. I enjoy watching her because she's not afraid to speak her mind and cross boundaries that would normally be off limits to "idols". I look at her like the EN Coco in terms of her dialogue and personality.

>>1776050
Okay. How much time should I give her as leeway? Should I count the previous six months and the multiple meltdowns before that as attempts to change, too, or ignore them? I mean, go ahead, outline your criteria. I'll even adhere to it if it's reasonable, but I'm sure you'll dodge coming up with one because you doubt Kiara will meet it.

>>1774051
Why, what did she do?

>>1776039
Threads don't mean shit
Any retard can go and create an Ina hate thread right now

>>1776053
If she was, then we would hate her the least.

>>1775975
- Aki
- Mio (although she was more crying about being directionless more so than low numbers)

>>1776083
how about you suck my dick faglord

Wow, she just doesn't get it huh. I'm not gonna repeat the legit criticisms that have been posted ad nauseam but it's really sad when someone just can't "take the L" and learn and improve from it. It's obviously an ego or mental problem of some sort, I hope she can get this sorted out for her own sake otherwise the rest of her career and life will be very difficult.
-t. unityfag

>>1776074
By this logic, should we tell her never to do collabs so this "minority" doesn't have to deal with her, anymore?

>>1775763
And this is supposed to be real?

>>1776039
I honestly think it's just people falseflagging as KFP to create some sort of rivalry that doesn't exist.

>>1775921
I don’t think she’s soooo socially retarded that she needs to pause, I think she needs to understand that perhaps she might not be as funny as she believes she is, and THATS FINE. There’s plenty of Holo’s who aren’t funny but are great streamers such as Ina, or Ayame, Shion, etc, etc, etc... I don’t find these girls funny, just likable and that’s their appeal.

>>1776070
He's extremely bad at games and sounds disgusting over all, you just need to watch him for a good while to understand.

>>1776093
I miss Leanna's feet. https://streamable.com/nxojul

>>1775975
Miko. I think a lot of older videos are deleted though I can't find it.
Of course she talks a lot about wanting to quit before GTA but I think there was a zatsudan where she sobbed being honest about it. If my memories are right.

>>1776112
How often does this happen? Was it a member's stream or public one?

>>1775935
moona talked about how having a low sub count she worried they'd make her graduate kinda different too Kiera

>>1775967
hi Kiara, get me a huke autograph please

>>1774388
Taking an L implies that the hate mob is correct.
What she should do is ignore all of the anti hate, and it will die down.

I think she's too menhera for that though

>>1775997
This is a retarded rrat. About 5-20% of active Kiara threads are ever made by actual fans on this board.

>>1776165
So it's a rare thing?

ITT: Zoomers and women who think they understand how the world works

>>1776121
It absolutely is real. Obviously from a hacker anon.

>>1775781
Can you hate someone that boring? I dont dislike Ina but she's not my type of streamer at all.

>>1775763
>and so kiara was bonked, again, and she ranted to her cult followers.
OMG this man is a profit, because she did this exact shit. LMAO

>>1772178
based

>>1776194
I would say rare.
Don't know about Mio but Aki was less a meltdown, more like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkRs87tG7sE
it's interesting.

>it's perfectly fine to be a whining, annoying piece of shit as long as you're a woman, it just means you're so sweet and special and entertaining and fun to listen to!!!! <33
But god forbid you're a man who is going through something and feels the need to open himself up for longer than a few words.

>>1776187
That's because she has so few fans, or...?

>>1775763
holy shit she literally said some of this in the clip this has to be real. It's too accurate.

>>1775572
You mean antis.

>>1776133
I wonder whether Pekora being her oshii and inspiration really, is the reason for this
Don't mean Pekora is at fault for this obviously, but rather I wonder whether that's what's stopping Kiara from reaching a natural state where her personality shines through as her own and not as forced for some people
I'm saying this in goodwill, as a part of me actually would like if Kiara somehow managed to turn the tables, and it'd also be a kino character development arc
At the end of the day it's all up to Kiara herself, and only she can try and change things

>>1776236
Thanks for the spoonfeed, anon. Helped me quite a bit.

>>1776253
I don’t care about men, because they aren’t cute

>>1772048
She's awful. Wish she would just leave

>>1776253
Well, yeah, be a man, pussy.

>>1775763
I refuse to believe that Gura can be so mean to her co-worker.

>>1772048
>Kiara gets so depressed she starts cutting herself on stream.
Can we make it happen boys?

>>1776301
You have to imagine her giggling before and after.

>>1772048
She's wonderful. Hope she stays forever.

If an anti, troll and KFP share the same criticism then they are all antis. This is how KFPs think.

>>1776253
The incel board is /v/

>>1776127
THIS

>>1775801
>stop the fake personality and become her normal self.
Im pretty sure this is the issue to begin with, she is her normal self and thats why its so hard for her to fix the issues.

>>1772048
It’s frustrating to me that she is basically throwing a tantrum by saying “oh you didn’t like this? fine I won’t do it” and doesn’t even bother to understand why people are criticizing her. She is never going to change and the hate is only going to get worse.

>>1772319
i typed this

This menhera exhausts me and I don't even watch her. Why does she need 15 threads on this board at any given moment? Why has she had 2-3 instances of drama/scandal a week since her debut? There's other vtubers I don't watch because they're not my kind of content, yet they don't piss me off at all, but Kiara is just built different.

Please just go away chicken. You actively hurt your own coworkers with how much a shit magnet you are. Graduate and go back to being molested by greasy amateur wrestlers.

>>1775965
She doubled down by giving a backhanded, ingenuine, non apology
>"Im sorry people were so offended by the word poop. I didnt expect everyone to get so triggered"
She didnt need to "apologize" in the first place, but by doing so, it was totally passive aggressive. Its comes off as sympathy farming too.

She could have easily closed the whole "poopgate" controversy by saying something like this.
>"Yeah, that joke sounded better in my head. I wanted to go for some kind of baby poop joke, but It didn't quite land. But that kind of thing happens when youre improvising. Its still kinda funny just because of how awkward it was."
That is literally all she had to say. She doesnt have to hate herself or go on some big tirade about offensive language.

I like kiara’s personality. I am grey and boring and she is bright and exciting to listen to.

>>1776333
Holy shit. Are people really this desperate? This is beyond pathetic.

>>1776115
Fucking rekt.

>>1776256
The fans have stuck to one or two threads always as far as I've seen throughout /vt/'s existence. The rest have been obvious attempts to create controversy. Typically the spam threads get multiple antiposts quickly at the start too, as if they were waiting for the thread. Makes no sense for any actual fan to do it.

>>1776378
>drama/scandal
The joke is her reaction is what turns it into drama or a scandal.

>>1776385
I feel the same way. If people were rain, I would be drizzle and Kiara would be a hurricane.

>>1776380
reasonable and based.

>>1776253
That's not a bad thing, though. It builds character and reliability.
Who would you rather depend on, especially in an emergency? A blubbering, emotional mess of a woman, or a man who has his shit together?

The whole concept of toxic masculinity is harmful to men. Men are designed to be strong.

>be Kiara
>join Hololive
>amazing artist is your mama
>get to collab with your oshi
>start acting spoiled during any collab where she might get involved, be a douche to Moona, start crying on Subaru's shoulder mid stream
>in front of an audience composed in part of men who, no matter how much they'd work, by virtue of being men have 0% chance of getting to work with and befriend said oshi
that's the only reason why i hate her, it's like humblebragging at this point

>>1776420
ur mom
lol btfo

>>1776380
>She doesnt have to hate herself or go on some big tirade about offensive language.
She’s shamed and humiliated right now. What she took away was that her joke was bad and went on too long, and that she was too loud and talked over everyone. Can you imagine being told that you were obnoxious and ruined the show after performing in front of a crowd of thousands? I would have literally killed myself.

>>1776435
This. Everyone was about to move on. She could of ignored it, or admitted the joke and her behavior missed the mark. Instead she threw a fit.

>>1776389
The schizos are real, anon.

>>1772048
>haha let's talk about shitting and poop in every stream
>wtf why does everyone hate me?

>>1776432
So you're saying there's no Kiara fans ITT?

>>1776273
>he actually thinks she gave a shit about Pekora
The state of KFPfags.

>>1776378
Don't use Mio Mama for anti posting you shitlord

I just wish she would never again count down the minutes left during a collab. It made me remember some of my worst D&D sessions.

>>1776133
Ayame has an extremely funny dynamic with her chat.

>>1776273
That’s a good point. Pekora has had so much influence on her it’s actually kind of astonishing. The collab I’d say was a catastrophe too, only because Pekora was more interested in showing off her work, let’s be honest, a lot of the shit Pekora does on that world is like art, she builds contraptions for the server so they can benefit from them and then goes about building crazy things. I feel like Pekora wanted to show Kiara things she has done so Kiara could be inspired herself and follow in the footsteps of her Oshi, perhaps if things went a different way, Pekora would have employed her in her construction company, perhaps Kiara could have started her own construction company and build magnificent things like her Oshi had done on her own server. Instead, I feel like, or rather what it seems like, is that Kiara idolizes Pekora so much that she wants to become her, to be a carbon copy, cause Pekora is funny, and the baby nonsense and scat jokes Kiara made makes me think that she wants to have the same humorous charm as her Oshi.

>>1776322
I'd still call her a piece of shit in that context anon, as much as people meme about "you can't get mad at me I'm cute" it can only be stretched so far before its just deflection.

>>1776458
I don’t care about men

>>1775967

Kiara was a mistake. She's like a bad smell that won't go away, everyone wishes it was gone

>>1776474
That's not what she's taking away at all. In her view she did nothing wrong and it's everyone's else's fault for being "offended" when most aren't even mad about peepee poopoo but her horrible delivery

>>1776549
who asked anon

>>1776547
Yes, get mad at an imaginary depiction of Gura that didn't happen when Kiara is ACTUALLY doing that shit.

>>1776301
I mean Gura was still making fun of Kiara later that day....

https://youtu.be/ChVf67Gcz34?t=12538

>>1776497
Oh I'm sure there are. I don't think anyone's fans would be able to 100% leave anti threads alone. They're just not the ones creating most of the threads.

>>1776583
I asked. That previous anon (>>1776549), do you care about men?

>>1772048
Seriously, why is she so fucking obsessed with shit? She seems genuinely butthurt because people don't want to hear her constantly talk about poop and shitting herself.

>>1776451
I'm saying that men in general tend to be pushed by everyone into repressing whatever they feel because it's apparently not "right" for them to ever express how they fully feel about something.
But when it comes to women, they just have liberty to do and say whatever they want when it comes to it, nobody bats an eye and thinks less of them because of it. I'm not saying have them start whiny and bitching about every single small thing like some of these girls do, but it feels like it's reached a level where you as a man can't even express your feelings related to something, if something someone said or did something to hurt you in some way, without others calling you out for being weak or pathetic for it. Basically you should just shut up and put up with it.

>>1776516
UWWWWAAAAA SEEEEEEEEEEEEEX
FUCK
I WANT
FUCK HAG
SEEEEEEEX
FUCK
MIO TITTIES
FUCK
FUCK
HAG
SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEX
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEX

>>1776120
Unironically yes.

>>1776607
You guys are taking a not so well received joke in a single collab stream a bit too far.

>>1776624
Stop being a pussy. Man up.

>>1776489
>>1776607
Literally only happened twice
Newfags shouldn't rratpost

>>1776346
>she is her normal self and thats why its so hard for her to fix the issues.
I was just about to type the same thing

>>1776662
>Stop being a pussy. Man up.

>>1776638

>>1776462
ur dad
get fuked nerd.

>>1776333
>>1776488
All me.

>>1776668
Three times actually.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyvHbXf0k7M

>>1776696
no u
haha gottem

>>1772048
Honestly I´m not surprised.
When she started crying because somenone asked why was she self-dubbing, raised massive red flags.
I think she has potential and hope that she improves

>>1776530
Fucking this.
>6 month anniversary dont starve
>stream finally picks up again after everyone gets revived after she fucks it all up by killing the one who knows most about the game (that she shows absolutely no sign of being sorry for, and even deflects blame)
>btw there's only 7 minutes left
>we only have 4 minutes left
>2 minutes left
>ANNOUNCEMENT ANNOUNCEMENT ANNOUNCEMENT
Like, why? Can your John not wait a few minutes more?

>>1776488
>>1776333
looks like you're still ban evading kek

>>1775967
Kiara, no one cares about the poop stuff that much. Just let your collab partners have some spotlight and avoid being rude to them and the hate will slowly disappear

>>1776748
It'll dry up instantly. That's literally all she has to do.

>>1776624
That's just how the world is.
The thing is, due to higher test levels, men don't actually worry about things anywhere near as much as women. It's that testosterone that gives men some fortitude.
That's why more men should lift weights.

Kiara fans going in and out of criticizing/liking Kiara based on her emotional state

>>1776451
That's not what he's saying anon, you can be a perfect leader and acknowledge that you're afraid nonetheless. That's what he's talking about.
If anything if gives you charisma to be able to tell people "look i'm no superhuman, i'm also stressed/tired/afraid/hungry/missing my wife but we need to do X and Y". Actually strong men are relatable because it lets people aspire to become like them.

>>1776791
r/kekmoments

>>1776333
>>1776488
KFP schizos, please take your meds.

>>1776272
No, i mean KFPfags. No matter what thread its in they'll be calling someone a schizo if any level of criticism is brought up about Kiara.

>>1772216
hah she's already expecting this, being a shitty personality she has, this will generate more money anyway from attracting people to sympathise her

>>1775967
>She already said that she wants to use less swear words and will never say the p-word again.
Based on her response she's only doing it because people told her to, but she doesn't even try to understand WHY that is.

>>1776607
>eriously, why is she so fucking obsessed with shit?
Why do any popular vtubers come here at all. They go to /vt/, get salty, then take that salt to their streams

>>1776838

>>1776890
No one even cares about the swear words. Just look at Coco. It was simply deflection on her part.

>>1772661
Watching Kiara call all her KFP members Jabronis would be the best thing I've ever seen. Also she needs to change her name to The Kiara.

>>1776917
Rudeness and swearing was repeatedly brought up as a negative attribute and was one of the things on The List. You are looking for reasons to hate her.

>>1776917
Yeah, it's really just the scat fetish that's the problem.

>>1776877
Please don't label the entire fanbase like that.
It's not like everyone who dislikes her is a threadspamming faggot who comes to gloat and pick fights in the one fan thread either.

>>1776894
Ollie seems to like this shithole.

>>1772319
I wish I typed this
>>1776723
She did tell everyone to create some space a few times, and I don't think she knew if the range of the fire nova would hit or even kill Ame. As for "she stopped when it picked up" situation, I wish she didn't seem so disinterested to play the game beyond showing off her character traits at least for the one hour they'd do this, but I think it's also mostly owed to them knowing they would never playing this game again and it being a botched run already -- they'd progress faster by just restarting altogether. And lastly she probably just cared that much more about the announcements.

>>1776917
i find coco's use of swear words a bit more deliberate and understandable although sort of cringe at times, but it's her whole thing to be the wild american who shakes up the boring japanese politeness

>>1776942
>You are looking for reasons to hate her.
I just told you something I don't care about, and most people don't. "The List" was created BY HER. The root disease of all her symptoms is how she handles collabs.

>>1776378
Based Mio poster

>>1772178
Based.

>>1772178
>>1772270
based

>>1776748
>Just let your collab partners have some spotlight and avoid being rude to them and the hate will slowly disappear

It’s really telling how this the biggest, most legitimate complaint against her and she just outright refuses to address it.

>>1775314
>everyone who hates Kiara is a schizo
>everyone who supports Kiara is a schizo
Problem?
https://youtu.be/IORp_o7bnvM

>KFP are KFPs biggest antis
what position could KFP - used condom disposal managers get demoted to

>>1776662
>>1776291
>>1776300
>says this while watching vtubbers
>and posting on this board
women don't like manchildren obsessing over fictional online personalities

>>1772048
"somehow" funny kiara, people arent offended by her without reason and as always she self centered herself and make her the sole victim and think she never in fault on anyway, she will just stuck in limbo like this and would never admit her flaws and learn from it

even the lowest holo like iofi know how to take criticism and improve herself

very ironic

>>1777025
She does it fine in Holotalk, but otherwise it's a valid complaint.

>>1777057
>women don't like manchildren
Well, I don't care what 3DPD think.

>>1777065
i recognize that posting style

>>1772048
Can't wait for her graduation.

>>1772453
put kiara on coco pedestal during chink schizo raid, would kiara survive? just think the amounts of sob story she makes every time she streams

>>1776894
I believe Kiara simply cares neurotically much how people think about her. It would be better for her if she didn't, but it seems more like a personality based issue that isn't going to change anytime soon, if ever.
>>1776953
>Ollie
>Not treerrat
Liking a HolofightZ tweet does not amount to liking this place. Nor does posting here. I believe Ollie is conscious of this place as soon as she starts telling me to do my guitar reps with her

>>1776213
Exactly. The people who like Ina like her, and the people who don't like her just forget she exists.

>>1777084
like clockwork, you'll die alone

>>1777159
>yet.png

>>1777149
im down for an anti kiara raid

>>1777159
Life is not about getting to fuck women, inceltard

>>1777188
yeah, it's about wasting your life, time and money on fictional ones

>>1777188
>life is not about the literal biological imperative
then please enlighten me about the actual meaning of life

>>1772216
I like Kiara and agree with this.

>>1773787
she won't graduate even if the cost is sucking yagoo dick, why would she want to go back to her old whoring job?

>>1777227
Sucking as many cocks as I can because I'm gay.

>>1777227
>biological imperative
how many children do you have anon

>>1774170
kek

>>1777341
>life is not about getting to fuck women
>it's about... getting to fuck women (for reproducing reasons)
lol ok

Stop insulting Kiara or I'll be forced to kick your ass

>>1775424
It's the perfect place for shit like kiara

so is there like a betting pool or something for her graduation? I want in on that action if so

>>1776949
I'll do so because your Oshi needs to leave, both KFP and Kiara are nothing but trouble.

>>1777423
there is nothing good about kiara, I legitimately don't understand how someone could like her

>>1777508
Trying to cash out, Kiara?

>>1777521
But I'm a watamate.

>>1777553
Nice try.

>>1777539
I need more merch.

>>1776596
lmao savage af

>>1776273
Its very doubtful desu, if kiara really like pekora then why she act like she doesnt know pekora's problem with social anxiety and just force herself in?

>>1776530
Its like she cant wait for the stream to be over

>>1777161
I dont like her but i gave her a sub to help her get ahead of Kiara.

>>1777423
stfu kiara

>>1777383
if you want it to be about biology, then fucking is the means to the end that is reproduction, since it's a fundamental quality of what's alive

>>1777579
It's sad that anyone who thinks that people are unreasonable in this shitshow are going to be labeled as KFP or antis, depending on who they reply to.

>>1776074
t. Kiara

>>1776530
She did that with the Ame collaboration as well, didn't she?

>>1777788
>Ina
>Watame
>Okayu
Chill guy.

>>1772789
>literally could not be more polite if he tried
>orange bitch still goes on a 10 minute rant about it
Do KFPs really? Do they REALLY? UNIRONICALLY?

>>1777972
>>1773034
It's obviously a compliment sandwich, where he baits her with a fake well-meaning intro and then falsflags as a fan in the end.

>>1772048
>opinions?
I'm not a fan of hers, but the hate she gets seems to be way over the top and this is exactly the kind of thing I didn't want to happen as a result. It's sad to see someone try (for better or worse) and then get excessive flack from people doing it for fun and reasons that are unnecessary. Sadly this video is just going to vindicate the antis, so it was ill advised even if she needed to get it off her chest.

I haven't watched her since early on and I hope she has improved, but the main complaint I had about her when she started was her trying to jump on every holomeme band waggon going. The proverbial throwing shit at a wall to see what sticks. It's artificial, inauthentic and it came across as crazed and delusional and made her look desperate. She was trying to emulate everyone else in order to fit in and sadly those who are desperate to fit in, often stand out the most. She tried to jump into everyone else's shoes and didn't develop an identity of her own.

There are other cringe moments that I know of like taking a poop joke too far or interjecting in someone else's time in the spot light, but these are minor.

There are a few areas I could see her focusing on to improve.
Firstly her design and theme was always over complicated. The sentai stuff is a non starter; I don't know if she's ever used it, but the sword shield and badge should be outright jettisoned. The whole fast food thing is garbage; her holding drumsticks looks silly and the greasy fast food theme doesn't fit an idol image. She should lean a lot less into the whole KFP thing or just move on from it. The silly chef hat can go. Ditch the fake yuribait too, it's fake and cringe.
The theme she should be focusing on is entirely the phoenix one. Apart from all the bird and fire puns, it's the perfect excuse for trying new schticks and reinventing herself through the death and rebirth theme and could have excused a lot of the desperate holomeme pandering she tried early on. It also means she can play with her characterisation depending on the theme of any game she plays. Play yakuza, be a gangster; play a shooter, be a soldier; play minecraft, be an architect (ironically, she'd be doing what Pekora does so well). As far as characterisation goes, it's a golden ticket.
Being bi/tri-lingual is an incredible strength in a company with such a huge language barrier and she was absolutely right to capitalise on it; having said that, a collab between two people shouldn't be focussing on her own narrative. No more pekora yuri bait ass kissing when Pekora put a lot of effort into trying to be a good tour guide, no more crying on stream in front of the JP (subaru) hosting you who has absolutely nothing to do with your own drama; no more shit questions like "what colour panties are you wearing". If someone is being a guide, let them lead the show; if you are interviewing someone, let them talk meaningfully; the fastest way to get someone to like you is to get them to talk about themselves willingly.

>>1778055
He didn't falseflag in the end, though.

>>1773677
Being both a KFP fan and giving critiques is the new KFP anti. Get with the times.

She needs to take a lesson from the hags and stop caring so much. It's fine to listen to criticism but stop wallowing in the hate. You don't know any of these people, likely won't ever meet them and you'll never please every single one of them.

>>1778202
I was joking when I called this shit a week ago, but it was pretty evident KFP was going to fracture between people who are fanatic and people who "don't support enough."

>>1777645
I doubt she actually knew that much about pekora in the first place. But even assuming she did, I’m guessing her self-inflated ego took over and she’s just clawing for attention.

>>1776181
>What she should do is ignore all of the anti hate, and it will die down.
But then her act won't improve and she'll stumble into the next land mine.

>>1778313
The land mines can actually be funny... if she could make them funny.

>>1777788
I've been dealing with KFPfags since her debut, its an endless wave of "ignorance is bliss" mentality and them calling people a schizo, it was like this on /jp/ and it was like this when everything moved to the new board. They've been unreasonable since the start so its safe for me to assume that most unreasonable people defending Kiara are just KFPfags.

>>1778353
You're not wrong.

>>1772048
The best thing she could've do is not feed the trolls and have some thicker skin. She shouldn't really show any form of weakness as it will be a fodder for gossipping w*men here who clearly will hate her no matter what she does.
I myself don't really watch her as she's not really my cup of tea but she should've already realized that she will never please everyone and that's fine

>>1776121
Yes, I can tell by the pixels and seeing a lot of green texts in my time.

>>1776194
With the way to algorithm works, you should expect it to be more common.

>>1778695
>el shadobano

>goes on a minutes long rant about why poop jokes ARE funny
Never change Germans

>>1772789
That's pretty equitable criticism, not like "Shut up you stupid whore lol" or something of that nature. Is that the comment she reacted to?
Might just be low self-esteem.

>>1778082
based reasonable and honest opinion.

>>1778875
Nobody fucking knows where she read the criticism. But she seems to think that it's coming from KFP at least in part.

>>1778961
I wouldnt be surprised if she read it here and she's just saying that it came from KFP to make sure people dont think she's been here (making her fans feel bad in the process). I could be wrong about that though since her own fans seem to be actually complaining about it.

>>1772270
Anon, I can't believe you survive for the past 4 month 21 days yet to rage quit because of Kiara passive aggressive to critique on Baby Uno Stream.

I hope you really end the membership since yesterday.
You posted this screenshot 4 times for the past 1 day.

>>1779128
>implying it's the same anon all four times and not someone copy-pasting

>>1776702
Think shes does tangents on cat shit sometimes too. There is a clip where she jokes about eating kfp and turning them into waste. She says this because there wasn't enough poop talk that stream.

>>1779824
She's always been talking about shit even some of the earliest streams she talked about how she will die if you eat her because you will shit her out and she can't respawn as poop.

>>1775201
>she logged on her account from nene's house or because she moved to another country
lmao imagine getting banned for that. YouTubers shill VPNs all the fucking time and imagine them getting shadowbanned for trying it out.

>>1772048
I don't like her, i don't watch her, i don't care about her existence. Simple, really. I do care to post about it though.

You could replace the chinkin with any of the ID2 girls(yes, even Anya) and they would've hit 1 million subs already by now. The board could be much cleaner than this as well.

>>1772048
I used to like her a lot at first but she always refuses to learn and evolve thinking everything she does is the right thing and any criticism is hate, shes just so full of herself that never realizes that sometimes shes annoying. Its that kind of person that when shes nervous or something she never shuts up and theres when she start with the cringe

>>1782101
Ollie and Reine are really really great, I think they'll be really popular had if HoloEN did not exist before them.

>>1782197
Why dont you like Anya?

>>1782220
I've never seen enough of her to cast a judgment.

>>1772365
Unironically based