/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>complains about indie vtubers
>"FUCKING BASED BASED BASED"
Why are deadbeats so retarded

>>176859
>people pissing and moaning on twitter about not being popular
>"have you tried putting out entertaining content?"
>REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>176859
t. vtweeter

>>176859
>indie vtubers
I remember when these were chuubas with single digit viewers that /vyt/ refused to share. How the hell did they became twitter faggots that dont even stream?!

>>177414
>they became twitter faggots that dont even stream?!
Twitter's metrics benefit those who spend a LOT of time tweeting and it being a left-wing social club while youtube is a predominantly male orientated (inherently more right wing than female-orientated) discourages them. They want to whine and be celebrated for whining.

other thread on this is fucking autistic now
for real, anyone here actually got good recs of indie envtubers to watch? no cap

>>177573
Kongou, Nina, Corpse.

>>176719
HA HA BASED KALEEYOWPEE TELLING IT LIKE IT IS

CUZ ITS NOT LIKE INDIES HAVE THE YOUTUBE ALGORITHM WORKING AGAINST THEM

CUZ ITS NOT LIKE ASPIRING VTUBERS HAVE TO SHELL THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ON EQUIPMENT AND ASSETS

CUZ ITS NOT LIKE MOST INDIES ARE ALREADY STRUGGLING WITH THEIR MENTAL HEALTH

CUZ ITS NOT LIKE SMALL TIME STREAMERS HAVE MOUTHS TO FEED

CUZ ITS NOT LIKE THE LEAST SHE CAN DO IS BE SUPPORTIVE OF THE SMALL GUYS

>>177689
She's literally talking about vtweeters, not indie vtubers you spastic nigger.

>>176719
She wants someone to challenge her. Prove her wrong or even write a song in response to this one.

I like how she says "just create content lol and you'll be big like me" as if she didn't get to where she is purely through luck

>>177689
Thousands of dollars? Hundreds maybe, unless you're going all out on a large production Iron Vertex-tier Live2D.

Reminder that she didnt know what Hololive really was
>>177689
Cope retard

>>177689
If you have mouths to feed you should be getting a job with a steady paycheck, not trying to make it at something as unreliable as being a fucking streamer.

>>177689
>small guys
What are you talking about? She literally lusts after nip guys who are shorter than her. More seriously have you not heard of the Mori indie chuuba universe?

>>177689
Actually based post

>>177689
All the HoloEN things built their fortune before even becoming a VTuber and were, with the exception of Amelia, bigger in their respective communities than any of the VTubers in the western scene.

>>177573
as if anyone would say any names and expose them to the autistics here

>>177689
Dont become a vtuber, youre not going to make it.

>>177262
This is actually it though

>>177689
Seethe vtweeter simp nigger

>>176859
You'll never be a vtuber

>>178249
>simp
yeah, wrong word to use on this board since 90% of hlg and hlgg are paypigs

Calli has the worst fans put if all the EN's

>>179042
kfp exists

>>176859
Start make content.

Real talk here
>Are you a slave, an entertainer till the fun dies
Did she use "slave" in a positive connotation here?

>>177689
way to get the entire message fly way over your head

while the message is true and lazy faggots need to put up or shut up, it’s just an underwhelming song overall

>>179150
teatards exist
literally just retards spamming gosling images whenever she's live

>>177414
They realized streaming is both actual work and means they have to interact with people they were hoping to just milk and ignore. On twitter they can restrict their pages to fellow fart sniffers and shill their patreon after every hot take

>>176719
>Mori is the only one who has exclusive content locked behind high tier paywalls
All the other EN girls make all member content available to all tiers. I don't see this discussed much

>>183313
5 month old rrat. No one cares now. And those that do just fucked off

>>176719
>>176859
>>177262
Who are you quoting?

>>183332
>rrat
Do you know what this word means?

>>183357
>words

>>183313
I was one of the people originally mad about Mori's system, but all of her membership content is eventually released for free a month later, which no other Hololive member does (consistently, anyways). It's a fair trade off in my book. That and her higher tier streams are some of her best because she can actually interact with chat without it being a blur of text and spam.

>>183313
People stopped complaining after she started releasing the VODs for free. Now the only "content" you miss by not membering is being able to see it live.

>>177689

Based. Callie was king made, I don't care if demon dice was 'successful.

>>176719
Mori still has no idea what vtubing is all about and it pains me to say 99% of those retarded "Debut TBA" vtweeters probably know more about Hololive than she does

>>183577
99% of those retarded "Debut TBA" vtweeters would be mortified if you showed them that clip of Matsuri and Senchou casually discussing their favorite loli manga.

>>183697
That's why it's important to let them find out she loves Quzilax to filter them

>>183577
She's better at managing an online persona than most of these twitterfags that think crying about the sjw pet cause of the day is content. Obviously vtubing vidya gaems bores the shit out of her and she'd retire if she got her breakthrough in music but it's better than generic screeching harpy #45895743

>>176719
Did something happen with Calli? Did she finally run her mouth about something retarded? I always knew she was a dramafag.

>>177787
You're an absolute retard. The message is "you can't win if you don't play," there's a rampant amount of lazy trannys who are not doing anything productive except tweeting in their social circles that they're going to debut, getting ass-pats by similar troons, and the cycle repeats. It mostly proves their true goal is just attention seeking but they're too lazy to try anything and have to resort to tweet roleplaying.

I love Mori, but I love her being able to stir up the vtwits even more. How many do you think actually took her advice, or did they all just raged for being called out by "Little Miss Company Hire"?

>>183729
She has more experience than most wannabe VTubers as far as "managing an online persona" goes. She's been doing it for almost half a decade at this point. It's funny that retards think she will fuck up. People go "sasuguh" for more reasons than just making a shitty joke.

If you count her romping around as an artist before *********, then it's probably close to a decade. Most of these debut TBAs haven't dealt with publicity before late 2020s.

>>177689
>thousands on equipment and assets
>literal mspaint vtuber with shitty background hum microphone going for 4 years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU6ncuhfNgk

>>183966
hell not even 4 years, 1 year and she's got 2k subs
These fuckers just want high numbers without putting in any work

>>177689
>CUZ ITS NOT LIKE THE LEAST SHE CAN DO IS BE SUPPORTIVE OF THE SMALL GUYS
She is though. Mori honestly spends too much of her time promoting indies. If there's an indie vtuber out there who is actually putting out content there's a good chance she either follows them or has replied to them. She even responds to Hime Hajime for fucks sake.

>>176859
>people who have never been on youtube or twitter
>"vtubers"

>>183980
That's the generation we live in. They see Gura hit two million being cute and not knowing how fucking multiplication works and they think "why isn't that me?" not "how can that be me?"

>>183990
This. People are being thin-skinned if what they got from this is Mori shitting on you. This isn't even a peak DD diss and more of an encouragement through tough love.

I can only imagine if the diss was as strong of something like Suckerz

>>183806
she dissed pre debut vtubers that tweet but dont actually vtube

>>183806
She said you need to vtube to be a vtuber and this was controversial for some reason.

>>177787
you're a faggot and you know nothing

>>176859
t. seething vtweeter.

DESU, they're extremely lucky it isn't 666d6 doing the dissing. This was pretty tame and actually inspiring if you're not a seething vtweeter

>>184051
>don't go on youtube or at the very least twitch
>get told you're not a vTUBER
>this is somehow controversial

>>183806
Listen to off with their heads. The track speaks for itself

>>177634
second kongou. he's a bro

>>183729
>Obviously vtubing vidya gaems bores the shit out of her
Minecraft bores the shit out of her but I think she had fun with Blasphemous.

>>177689
>CUZ ITS NOT LIKE INDIES HAVE THE YOUTUBE ALGORITHM WORKING AGAINST THEM
The algorithm doesn't hold new talent down, just existing talent that doesn't tow the company line.
>CUZ ITS NOT LIKE ASPIRING VTUBERS HAVE TO SHELL THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ON EQUIPMENT AND ASSETS
You don't need this.
>CUZ ITS NOT LIKE MOST INDIES ARE ALREADY STRUGGLING WITH THEIR MENTAL HEALTH
Cope
>CUZ ITS NOT LIKE SMALL TIME STREAMERS HAVE MOUTHS TO FEED
How is tweeting for seven hours a day supposed to help?
>CUZ ITS NOT LIKE THE LEAST SHE CAN DO IS BE SUPPORTIVE OF THE SMALL GUYS
It's not her fault that vtweeting faggots can't handle tough truths.

>>184119
A DD x Mori collab will be legendary character work.

>>184119
LOVE YOURSELF.
HEH HEH JUST KIDDING. GO FUCK YOURSELF!

>>184154
She loved Blasphemous and they got word that they are allowed to do Souls 2 & 3 which she's hyped about.

She loves games that she can be bad at and overcome. Crash, Blasphemous, Souls, etc.

>>177689
>>CUZ ITS NOT LIKE ASPIRING VTUBERS HAVE TO SHELL THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ON EQUIPMENT AND ASSETS
The only piece of equipment you need to be vtuber is a mic. Even some shitty 5$ thing is good enough to stream with if you are interesting. Chances are someone looking to be a streamer also has some sort of smartphone and even some of the hololives stream from phones.

>>184051
>>184120
The people getting mad about it are the people who should be aggressively forced out of the community for being retards.

>>184262
>The only piece of equipment you need to be vtuber is a mic
don't lie like that you fucking dipshit
all vtubers are streamers but not all streamers are vtubers

>>184168
She's testing the waters. If not that, then something equally insane. Bitch loves sekret club shit, and won't be beyond her to have some sort of side A/B pair song.

>>184313
>Death Sensei was DD all along

>>184294
No, the only thing you need is a mic. Slap up a static png of your mspaint art and you are ready to be a vtuber. There are tons who do this and actually do pretty well. Hololives actively used to do this as well before they got money to buy pcs capable of running their models. Fuck, there is tons of nips who fucking do it with voiceroid. Anyway who thinks you need some epic thousands of dollars setup is a delusional nigger blinded by people who are already successful or have some sort of corporate backing.

Streaming and being a vtuber is a zero-cost investment. You don't need anything to be successful than to actually be interesting. Sadly for you, you can't pay to fix your shitty personality.

>>184313
That shit would be wild but I don't know if she would because it would come off as self-promotion using Hololive. I would have the biggest smile if there was a cameo in an MV or something.
Mori hinted to an album in April for her birthday but the other side has also hinted to new music this year. Two separate albums?

>>184404
This is literally Senz's origin

>>184239
>Souls 2

*farts*

>>184404
>Sadly for you, you can't pay to fix your shitty personality.

>>184424
Very low effort antipost at this point

>>184313
>Bitch loves sekret club shit, and won't be beyond her to have some sort of side A/B pair song.
Should I be combing over her songs just in case she hides a secret ARG or cryptology stuff inside them

>>184424
*SNIIIIIIIIIIFFFFFFFF*

>>184033
We're never going to get another Suckerz or Sick Out Of Fashion. These thin skinned vtweeters would straight up cancel her.

>>183966
>I would be happy if you could refrain from acts such as homing pigeons.
>I would appreciate it if you could refrain from using the word "pigeonhole" in your delivery. (If you use the word "pigeonhole" in your delivery, it will reflect badly on you, your viewers, and your listeners.)
What does this second rule of hers mean?

>>184404
>You don't need anything to be successful than to actually be interesting. Sadly for you, you can't pay to fix your shitty personality
Vtweeters on suicide watch.

>>184404
Based

>>184438
There's some lyrical overlap with small references and generic concepts.
The biggest ones are the final seconds of Could You Please RIP and the whole idea of Live Again.

>>184488
Off With Their Heads was pretty hard with its accusations. It wasn't meant to be a diss track. It was trying to pump up and inspire.
A song directed specifically at antis, she would take no prisoners.

>>184556
The dice roll in RIP is littered within the track it's just more prominent during the last part because the other elements are gone

>>184239
Is it really only Dark Souls 2 and 3? When Kiara mentioned Dark Souls I thought it was the entire series. Hopefully, Sony will let her stream Bloodborne.

>>184598
It's not actually a diceroll. It's marbles dropping, Kokorobeats showed the soundset he used

>>184556
The rent free reference isn't the first time she uses it, 100% Guaranteed

>>183966
SOUL OVERLOAD

>>184641
Kek it's close enough but yeah

>>184598
True but the ending is the best example for the reason you gave.

>>184641
He did but at the same time I think nearly everyone heard it as dice. K's and Mori knew what they were doing.

>>184673
This is the first rent-free song from her
https://youtu.be/ifFQoJ6znNw

>>184436
I dont think fartfags are antis
they like her for the wrong reasons but they still like her

>From Cereal Box to Real Estate: Calliope Mori

How do you do a mass report to demonetize a channel?

Asking for a friend in Minecraft.

>>177689
seethe harder faggot
why don't you actually put out content instead of shitposting on twitter

>>184780
Pure seethe

>>184168
Not as legendary as a Killer Bean x Mori collab with Cr1tikal too

>>184803
Charlie posting is an old fad, after her real Oshi was revealed.

>>183966
>fridge art did more vtubing than debut tba faggots on twitter

>>184839
Who

>>184702
>>184702
Might want to be careful with those links fren. They're been getting removed and I hope posters aren't getting in too much trouble
I am hyped for all the new stuff she is giving us. If there is any overlap than it would be a nice surprise. I just don't think there will ever be a full confirmation or collab. Still, one could dream.
Mori doing her thing and trying to remain polite and constructive even when dissing. All with a fairly calming track. Hear a muffled "Let me the fuck outta here!", banging from inside a crate, chains breaking, and then a demon is unleashed.

>>184772
Eat your Mori-O's! They turn the milk red and have little marshmallow scythes.

>>184839
i only mentioned Charlie because he'd already be in the successive episodes of Killer Bean given that the character he plays is working with the MC rn. Mori could show up as the next heavy and maybe Jeff could even set up a little vtube meetup with both bean and mori.

>>184890
See my point, this rrat has been dead for weeks

>>176859
tweet harder, vtranny

>>184780
Cringe

Fuck. Deadbeats I cant find an hourglass anywhere.

>>183577
Like that means anything. Creating content is what's important.

>>184780
cry more faggot

>>184051
Literally the same concept as people calling themselves "writers" without ever haven written anything. I don't see how it's different or controversial

>>184239
My favourite clip of hers is when she ascended and went full Gamer Mode playing Doom

>>176859
t. Vtweeter tranny
Just fucking stream
Just do it

>>177634
>>177573
Koopa...

>>184404
you're gonna make it anon

>>176859
>indie vtubers
No. She's talking about people that never do anything. Vtweeters aren't even on indie level because they have ZERO fucking content.

>>183220
I can explain this one.
In a discussion some months ago I explained to someone in /hlgg/ that chuubas are slaves to their viewers and then proceeded to make a long rant about Foucault and how power is bidirectional.
Mori is probably dogwhistling again, to me.
See you virgins.

>>176719
as someone who hate mori because petty shit. what she doing right now is extreamly based.

>>177888
Only Ina and maybe Gura had any money. Mori and Kiara, despite being well-known in super niche communities, were both broke. Ame after years of grinding away for tiny numbers finally starting to pick up stream but who knows if she would have eventually plateaued in such a crowded field.

>>187848
>Vtweeters
I didn't even know they exist. Any links? Do they just have an avatar, but do nothing and call themselves "vtubers"?

>>188151
Mori/Kiara were just breaking even. Mori would just continue her teaching gig if she didn't pan out, and Kiara would've just went home earlier.

>>188240
I'm also curious, because anyone I can think of still does content, even if it's not content I watch. Links?

>>184489
She doesn't want viewers to go to other people's streams and spam her channel there or talk about her.

>>188268
>>188240
Just check out some commentary channel reporting on the drama like Hero Hei. I'm not linking his shit here.

I don't understand how you can follow the advice "Stop tweeting and do something" with lots of tweeting

>>188268
"Vtubers" with a twitter account and an upcoming debut sometimes months in the future. they think they can do the Hololive thing of hyping themselves up for a big debut stream.

>>188611
>debut 2026

>>188611
>Snowflower
>2026
That HAS to be a parody account. Right?

>>189466
Yes, I just bullshitted it together Look at the @

>>189505
It was subtle enough to work because you didn't go for "snowflake" and excluded pronouns. I thought the @ could be to appeal to a coomer audience and the debut date as a self deprecating "joke", so good job. In a sense this is less ridiculous and over the top than even some real ones.

>>189647
I would have put pronouns if I had thought of it, god damn it

>Mori likes indies
>Mori respects indies because she knows the struggle of not being noticed
>Mori retweets and promotes indies all the time
>the second Mori started getting big she used that to help smaller indies get noticed
>Mori wants to collab with indies
>Mori respects hard work since she ACTUALLY worked her ass off to get where she is and is only in hololive because of that hard work
>Waaaaah Pink Women called me out for doing nothing Pink woman bad

This shit used to happen on Tumblr all the time(best place for porn at the time) you'd have tons of people TALKING about all the stuff they would do someday if they just got this one thing but then they would never produce a damn thing.

Honestly now I think about it this is really common in the art community as a whole there are people that sit around talking about how big they'll get but they never do a damn rep.

>>189679
It's fine I feel it would be a bit much. In your one post your produced more content then a vtweeter.

>>177689
>CUZ ITS NOT LIKE MOST INDIES ARE ALREADY STRUGGLING WITH THEIR MENTAL HEALTH
maybe you should take care of this first?

>>189969
Haachama did more for indies in 1 stream than Mori does for her whole career.