/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

It has been confirmed that she browses this board and made all those threads about herself.

Good morning Kiara.

>>1755069
Kiara, please play one of the ace combat games. It fits the bird theme and it's a niche no one else has filled

Hi Kiara

>>1755338
Whoops forgot pic

>>1755192
Kiara is Kiara anti.

>>1755192
Kiara, please take your meds.

What if we're all Kiara?

Don't mind Kiara guys, she's testing her internet connection right now.

>>1756112
become as Kiara

yuri

I found our theme song
https://youtu.be/ym6uB9VQ1ac

>>1756639
Chickens are kind of bastards though, loving one seems hard. Also there is a reason "chicken shit" is a slur.

I think I’ve become quite depressed from the past few days’ events. I don’t enjoy watching someone suffer, and am genuinely worried about the state of Hololive EN. Why can’t things in life just have a net positive for once? It feels like my whole world is crashing down and I’m seeing it reflected right back at me. Is it so much to ask that I want to see people succeed?

>>1756639
I'm still pissed off that kiara wouldn't let Mori draw Kiara the way she wanted during the collab. I'm ashamed that it took me that long to realize that Kiara is an absolute bitch.

>>1756865
Autumn is usually when the firing squad comes out, so you probably still have a job anon!

>>1756865
You also have to realize any problem or drama that occurs on hololive, 4chan amplifies by 100000 and makes it seem much much much worse than it really is. She'll pull through, it's not even been a year.

>>1756911
I have no idea what this means. I’m supposed to get a job in a firing squad in September?

>>1756899
Don't be ashamed brother, everyone has their own moment.

>>1756936
True. I think my gloominess inspired me to come back to 4chan in the first place, and 4chan just amplifies that feeling. Vicious cycle and all.

>>1756945
Oh, you don't have a job. sorry...

>>1757010
I just come here either when I'm watching a stream and something super funny or unexpected happens and I want to see the reactions other than the chat's, or for a few minutes when I genuinely have nothing else better to do late at night (like now). I suggest you do the same.

>>1757049
bold of you to assume in the first place

>>1757058
Good idea. Thanks anon.

Here, have my low effort OC.

>>1756112
I wish I was Kiara. Then I'd be smart, own my own restaurant, and be able to talk about my shit without repercussions. Oh, wait, I'm do that already.

>>1758280
>talk about my shit without repercussions. Oh, wait, I'm do that already
already ruined ESL

>>1758331
I'm from Texas, and I'm drunk. Fuck you. I'm going to drink another Shiner.

>>1758380
>Shiner
Based

>>1756532
btw is that true? anyone here who is retarded enough to buy games on windows store?
is the windows version better compared to the steam version?

honestly hope we still get a lot of cat tangents from kiara
i'm allergic to both cats and dogs so kiara's unending adoration of her cats always seems super endearing to me

>>1758380
I'm from New York and I know how backspace works.

>>1758909
That's cool, nobody asked, faggot.

>>1758073
I wonder how she'd do on stealth games actually. It might be pretty interesting.
Stealth seems like a really rare genre for any of the holos.

>>1758942
Talking about stealth, I am still praying every day that they get permission to play Alien Isolation.

>>1756259
This just proves how much her actual design is an over complicated mess.

>>1758660
I don’t have it, but I’m aware of how Nier on the windows store actually has proper resolutions and shit. The disadvantage is that you’re buying from the windows store.

>>1759600
>Alien Isolation
>Kiara playing THAT game
>Kiara playing horror games in general

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

no.
https://youtu.be/ihn5BhI-ZA0
watch this. she is shitting herself just by being in the main menu.

>>1759763
HOLY FUCKING SHIT

Why is her voice SO MUCH BETTER in this video?
Like what? Is that another mic?

>>1759662
Clothes really do change a lot

>>1759808
Probably.
I believe that Kiara would benefit hugely from a professional microphone and some mixing software. Her current mic picks up far too much treble and constantly makes her a couple of decibels louder than the other girls when doing collabs.

>>1759937
she said her current mic was 400 or 500 bucks. cant remember exact price but it was something in between. and she is using the settings Ame gave her.
i think her problem is that she is way to close. she said she constantly has cat hair in her face because the mic collects it. which means she is basically kissing it.
i dont think you are supposed to get that close.

>>1756865
HoloEN is fine, nothing they say is anything worse than anything a JP member has said, nothing they do has had any more drama than anything that has happened to the JP's

>>1755069
https://streamable.com/giut86

>>1760052
>she said her current mic was 400 or 500 bucks
I wonder what mic she has, it might not be fit for purpose. In any case, she needs to work with her mixer, at least if she insists on talking within kissing distance of the mic.

>>1756865
>Taking posts on a Mongolian basket weaving board seriously

>>1756865
Follow other fan discussion places too. Seriously. 4chan is the place where the schizos come to rant because their abrasive statements don't get filtered. It makes the amount of comments like those extremely disproportionate.

So unironically gb2reddit
Not saying that you should go there and never come back though. Just go there also. And Twitter. Any other place where fan discussion might happen. It helps you put things into perspective. This place doesn't need to, nor should be your only source for the big picture about how the scene is.

>>1755069
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFNT8S1YF9w
>Kiara's old co-worker has seen the wrestling tapes and the soft-core porn
lmao

>>1755192
>attention whore does attention whore things
wow

>>1756865
kiara, I....all I want to say is.....
SHUT THE FUCK UP EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE
that's all you have to do

>>1761666
>even satan dabbing on kiara
perfect

>>1761720
>>1761778
Guys, pick literally any other thread.

>>1756865
I'm surprised to see someone so empathic posting on 4chan, much less in a rrat den like this.

>>1760225
she has a shure sm7b, cloudlifter and goxlr.
sounds ok for someone who doesn't know what they're doing, but could be much better. doesn't cover have any kind of tech support for their talents?

>>1761790
I think people are confused between actual kiara generals and anti-kiara generals since they both look the same this past few months & mix in

https://twitter.com/CRUNCHY_MMLONI/status/1373556221945409538?s=19

Ah, the Mamaloni

>>1762154
>confused
they (he) do it intentionally because they(he) are newfags. they do not understand the board culture. no1 cares about the occasional shitpost here and there, but you dont go into an oshi fan thread and spam the shit out of it.
thats like an unwritten rule. just like how in a gun fight you dont intentionally aim for the balls. no1 does that. you just dont.
hopefully these(he) people will learn in the future.

>>1762766
>but you dont go into an oshi fan thread and spam the shit out of it.
ironic isnt it?
(You) hate the same thing, the same exact thing that kiara does in collabs and other's streams but you dont want it to be done to you on a mongolian weaving forum.

(You) cant digest it happening to you on a shithole site & you have the gall to criticize the people who get mad at kiara for doing it in collabs/streams?

pathetic

>>1755192
tenchou would never do this, I'm too smart for that

>>1761790
Why the fuck did you revive these threads anyway?

>>1762850
yeah you are right
>we
are all secretly kiara and samefagging. so your hate directed at her = the fault of
>us
the people on /vt/ who just wanna chill.

>i dont like how president X won in country Y, therefore i spam board Z because obviously its their fault i hate president X.
this is literally (you)

https://youtu.be/1kl5CwGpDNM

>a few fags criticize her
>WOE IS ME I'M BEING BULLIED HELP KFP

meanwhile orange woman:
>harassed by West Taiwan bots on youtube
>spammed on twitter
>has to make chat member-only
>any collab with her has to do the same or else instant zhang infestation
>NOBODY GOT TIME FOR ZHANGS, TIME TO PLAY GAMES

>>1762886
I'm not making these threads. Hell I'm not even KFP, so your jab kind of misses. But one thread for a chuuba makes sense, and this has typically been the containment thread.
By coming here you're trying to incite fights again and turn the board to shit.

>>1762958
notice how you cant attack my argument.
you've proven right here in this thread with your post that overpowering others in their comfort zones is something that annoys you.
kiara does it in collabs/streams but you dont think thats its constructive criticism when people from other fanbases point it to you that it is annoying and that makes kiara unlikable. you just keep screeching it's SEA or an indie vtuber or some other group.

do you realize you've been check-mated here?
(You) cant have these two contradicting opinions
(You) cant cry about someone destroying your comfort space and talking over you like the "antis" do for kiara generals

next time, dont choose battles you cannot win.

>>1762986
Do your fucking job and start posting your grievances in the comment sections instead of yelling into the void here, so that more people notice how shit she is.
I bet many people who don't care for her never really thought about why and once they read the reasons why Kiara is shit it will click inside their heads why they instinctively disliked her.

>>1763117
>something that annoys you.
it annoys everyone, not just me, not just KFP, it annoys everyone on this board. at least the constant daily 10-20 thread spam is gone for now since the range ban couple days ago. but newfags like you are still annoying

>kiara does it in collabs/streams
again: what have i or anyone else have to do with kiara? she doesnt even know we exist. you are completely delusional if you think everyone here is kiara. so why do you direct your hate against
>us
?

>check mate
indeed. you just check mated yourself by being a completele retard and proving how much of a newfag you are. but like every tourist (you) will stay here forever, and hopyfully you will learn how board culture works in the near future.

>leave this board forever
>check reddit for sugarcoated but constructive critcism
>happiness
There you go Kiara, I found a way for you to healthily grow as a Vtuber. Let me fuck your thighs, please.

>>1762042
Ame has been the one helping the rest of HoloEN with their equipment; she suggested the SM7B+Cloudlifter+GoXLR combo to the rest of the group (but Ame personally uses a shotgun mic for her own setup).

The Shure SM7B is already an industry professional mic, there's nothing wrong with it. Maybe some EQ/Compression adjustments on the GoXLR can make her voice sound better, or maybe taking out the Cloudlifter could reduce the intensity of her voice, since the GoXLR has built-in preamps that's already powerful enough to drive dynamic mics like the SM7B.

It seems that Cover doesnt really help their talents for their at-home streaming setup, only the 3D streams.

>>1763258
Her stopping to look at criticism is exactly why she started becoming obnoxious as fuck recently

She needs depression and insecurity to keep her in check or else she just starts getting overwhelmingly rude and egocentric

>>1763256
>it annoys everyone, not just me, not just KFP, it annoys everyone on this board.
exactly, so what kiara does is in fact annoying to a lot of people of other fanbases.

>but newfags like you are still annoying
buzzwords when you're out of argument wont help you with lurkers who have common sense.

>what have i or anyone else have to do with kiara?
huh? I'm pointing out the similarity to why kiara is unlikable and its not just SEA SEA.

you still dont get it do you? the parallels I'm trying to point out or you're being obtuse and dishonest on purpose to not see the similarities of why kiara is unlikable to a majority and why most of them dont like her.

either way, thank you for proving that what kiara does is indeed unlikable to everyone.

>>1763298
are there any rrats when holoEN gets 3d? probably this year but when? hopefully within the first 6 months.

>>1763406
>exactly, so what kiara does is in fact annoying to a lot of people of other fanbases.
stopped reading there because you still dont get it. all you say is kiara kiara kiara

i repeat: people on vt are NOT kiara. we dont give a fuck why you hate her and it makes zero sense that (you) direct your hates towards her against people on /vt/. might as well go into a random twitch cooking stream and tell people who have nothing to do with kiara how much you hate her.

>>1763456
>people on vt are NOT kiara. we dont give a fuck why you hate her and it makes zero sense that (you) direct your hates towards her against people on /vt/
>vt
>vtuber board
>dont talk about the most attention whoring vtuber possible in a constructive way
>ironically that vtuber's fans dont like it when they get the same medicine back that their vtuber does to other vtubers and their fanbases
do you know where you are?

>>1763407
Never cuz
>Ame can't possible do a 3d stream without dying of cringe
>Gura's character is too small
>Ina and Kiara's models are too lewd
>It's too incovenient to fly Ina, Kiara, Gura and Ame to Japan do to a 1 hour long stream

>>1763501
yes but you dont. youre a proven newfag who does not understand board culture. you samefag who spams all day. no1 cares schizo. just make your own thread and talk to yourself if for some reason you enjoy that

>>1763529
this would make sense if they were nobodies. but all of them combined make more money for cover than 99% of the other holos

>implying cover cares

ok you got me there i guess. but we can still hope

>>1763407
Depends when countries would open up, and how Cover would handle the talent's work visas; they can only produce 3D stuff in Japan.

HoloID Gen 1 apparently has models already ready, but they need to be able to travel to Japan first for them to have their 3D debut.

Want some peace of mind and not see actual KFP everywhere? Stop coming in to pick fights in the containment thread.

>>1763540
>newfag
>board culture
you keep using these words, I dont think you know what they mean
be grateful you have dedicated kiara jannies protecting your vtuber in /hlgg/ and kiara generals.
board culture never supports favorites,

the reason you're not kicked out of this board through shitposting is because there are actual COVER interns modding this board.

dont talk to me about board culture, board culture doesnt ban people for constructive criticism posts.

(You) got utterly humiliated when you said "antis annoy you for overpowering you in your general" when kiara does the same, you applaud her and think she's a queen.

dont dish out what you cant take, next time.

>>1763501
>same medicine back that their vtuber does to other vtubers and their fanbases
Kek this guy still doesn't get the hint. We are NOT Kiara my man. Whatever she does, we have no influence over it.

>>1763407
Probably this year, yeah.

>>1763589
>Depends when countries would open up
Literally years, if ever.

>>1763630
>We are NOT Kiara my man. Whatever she does, we have no influence over it.
then dont get annoyed when you get the kiara treatment.

the fact that you're still replying proves why kiara is a generally unlikable personality who cannot be ignored.

>>1763407
Whenever travel restrictions loosen up and all the Holos get vaccinated.

>>1763619
>constructive criticism posts.
you are spamming/flooding
trolling
doxxing
pick your poison

>COVER interns modding this board.
meds

>when kiara does the same
>he still thinks we are kiara

Hey KFP, what are your favorite Kiara moments? I don't like being mad at people and I'm going to her the benefit of the doubt that she's working on fixing her problems, so I want to see something nice about her for once.

>>1763680
>spamming/flooding
>trolling
>doxxing
all false

just because you say those words dont make it true, I've never done that. I'm just in this thread talking to you guys.

notice how not one of you can attack my argument that you cant handle what kiara does in every stream/collab, done to you.

you dont have a defense against it, so what do you do? say things I've never done. hilarious.

>>1763680
Notice the way he talks?
>Kiara did this therefore you desever that!
In other words: Unrelated person to you did something that I don't like. Therefore I'm gonna spam a bunch of unrelated people. This will trigger Kiara for sure!

>>1763790
>I'm gonna spam a bunch of unrelated people
>constructive criticism is spam
>still cant attack my argument on me showing a mirror to KFP
alrite I'm done, lel

>>1763754
>kiara does in every stream/collab, done to you.
jesus christ dude. this guy is completely brain dead

>>1763754
your reddit spacing is showing when you rage, tourist. go back newfren. you dont get how things work here.

>>1763619
>the reason you're not kicked out of this board through shitposting is because there are actual COVER interns modding this board.
The absolute state of Kiara antis

>>1763818
>constructive criticism
Against us? What exactly do we have to do with that? Go talk to Kiara. We are NOT Kiara.

>>1763865
>newfren
>redditspacing
>board culture with dedicated jannies of their vtubers
I'm pretty sure I have a good hold on what actual board culture and what newfags like you think board culture is.

I've already mentioned it but board culture doesnt do hugboxes, you must be from twitter LARPing like you belong here. this isnt a safe space.

its also ironic how I see you guys coming into constructive criticism threads about kiara and calling everyone SEA. notice how board culture isnt invoked in those cases. I'm pretty sure you guys can accept that you go into "anti-threads" according to you and call people SEA, right?

no board culture then, right? about overpowering anons in their threads? ironic.

>>1763963
this is the containment thread you absolute retard. we are precisely here because we DONT want to deal with your schizo anti posting.
there are a millions of other threads where you can shitpost about your hate boner. yet you choose to come here. THIS is what i mean by not understanding board culture.

>>1763715
>Ask for nice things about Kiara
>Get ignored by KFP so they can keep shitposting
Sasuga. I feel bad for Kiara, she really found herself some terrible fans.

>>1763963
Go shit up the Artemis or Gura thread and see how fast you get banned.

Constructive criticism is fine honestly. Just make it be actually that instead of "please graduate".

>>1764067
>THIS is what i mean by not understanding board culture.
let's see what board culture is according to you
>kiara can overpower everyone in her streams/collabs
>others cant do the same to her
>you can go into other threads to call/accuse everyone of being mentally ill and SEA
>but others shouldnt come into your threads and do the same

this isnt board culture, this is you making up rules on the spot trying to deflect from the argument when a mirror was shown to you on how you find what kiara does is annoying but dont want that annoying thing done to you.

have some self-respect next time instead of being an hypocrite.

>>1757010
Welcome the the most toxic community around, things are only going to become worse

Did she say anything about the superchats? That's all I care about, not poop or swearing.

>>1764143
>let's see what board culture is according to you
>kiara can overpower everyone in her streams/collabs
stopped reading here again. WE ARE NOT KIARA. this board has nothing to do with kiara's actions.
get that in your head reddit clown

>>1764067
Ok, so how about post something nice about her.

Hey KFP. Post something nice about your oshi. Are you literally unable to do that?

>>1764231
and the other threads are not SEA or the girls themselves.
does it stop you guys though to go into those threads and call people mentally ill or SEA or other names?
go on, I'll wait

>>1764234
I can give you a playlist about all videos I like if you want.

>>1764278
>im a SEAnog and i get mad when unrelated people to you call me SEA in other, unrelated threads. therefore i come HERE to talk about it

>>1764298
Here's what I don't understand, anon, and this isn't a Kiara problem it's a problem with her fans so you should feel ashamed about it. I've asked three fucking times for you retards to post something nice about her and it's just radio silence. That would happen for zero other vtubers. Everyone else has people posting nice pictures, clips, laughing or smiling about fun moments. But here it's nothing. I haven't seen her fans post anything positive to balance out the negativity since the thread started. All you do is reply to shitposts. You guys don't like Kiara, you like arguing.

>>1764353
>im a SEAnog
I'm not but you called me that when you just said
>we arent kiara so dont call us that
I dont think you're smart enough to debate, let the other guy talk.

>unrelated threads. therefore i come HERE to talk about it
well you just called someone SEA when he isnt but you said we arent kiara so dont talk to us as if we're her.

haha, ironic.

His problem is that he thinks everyone is his enemy. He attacks and treats people as if they were the ones he's mad at. He can't differentiate.

>>1764441
hes retarded. as you said before, look at the patterns he tries to contrsuct his posts.

>someone on youtube did X there for i come here and...
>someone in another thread did Y therefore i come here and...
>how does it feel when i do something that someone else on another platform (that you have nothing to do with) does that to you?
>by the way did i already tell you that i hate kiara?

>>1764441
>>1764547
I truly pity Kiara, that her fans will literally not post anything positive about her even when someone begs them to, they just keep shitposting and replying to shitposts. This is the worst vtuber fanbase I've ever seen.

>1764547
>that you have nothing to do with
oof
so kfp dont go into "anti" threads and call them mentally ill & SEA?
hmm, its a good thing that lurkers are more smarter than you guys

>>1764404
I'm sorry but I am to lazy to spam Kiara pics right now just because some random person asks me to. I offered you a playlist, thats all I can do.

>>1764600
>I offered you a playlist
where?

>>1764600
You shouldn't be doing it because I asked you, you should be doing it because you like Kiara. That you won't say anything nice about your supposed oshi is just fucking sad.

>>1764590
correct. i usually dont go into anti threads.
im usually in global or the containment thread, thats all.

but here is the thing: even if this was true, even if hundreds of KFP rush into anti threads to defend their oshi, it still makes no sense that YOU come HERE. just as it makes no sense for newfren KFP to go into anti threads.

but as i said earlier, youre still new. in a couple weeks you will understand how things work here.

>>1764675
Considering how you guys wont post anything nice about your oshi you're pretty much antis yourself.

>>1764675
>it still makes no sense that YOU come HERE. just as it makes no sense for newfren KFP to go into anti threads.
fair but one side doesnt act like victims and they're morally better than the other side while one side does.

the "antis" dont pretend to be better people, they just post constructive criticism and get attacked while KFPs not only accept the criticism but instead of ignoring it, they attack everyone in those threads WHILE pretending they're better people and are victims at the same time.

I'm just here to break that illusion that you both are the same.

>>1764706
ogey ogey. you spammed this 4 times now samefag. just go and google kiara pics for yourself

>>1764736
It's a lost cause by dude. You're arguing with a supposed Kiara fan that wont say anything nice about her. He's not a fan, he's a troll. It's really sad.

>>1764755
I'm not samefagging, I'm pretty fucking open about the fact that I'm the one asking for people in the Kiara thread to post some nice things about Kiara. But here we are, many posts later, and her fans still do not support her.

>>1764736
>fair but one side doesnt act like victims and they're morally better than the other side while one side does.

no you dont get it. you posted your "constructive criticism" and another anon asked you if you could please go because its tiresome dealing with you schizos.

but you kept talking about how kiara does X and therefore we deserve Y
whats more, youre keep talking about your "constructive criticism" but you do not understand that it it DOESNT MATTER what YOU tell US. we are NOT kiara. we cant change anything. what exactly do you expect to happen? tell me. what is the purpose of this? by telling us how and what you dont like about her, what can WE do about that? how is that our problem?

the last 20 or 30 posts or so are because you simply cant shut up and leave this thread already. this is the wrong thread for that how many times do i need to tell you.

egg

>>1764808
then post something nice? i dont care about anything like that

For the people here that aren't Kiara fans, I want you to look at this post
>>1764860 and think about all the effort her fans are putting into arguing instead of posting nice things. Think about how heart broken you would be if that happened to your oshi, or even worse, how heart broken she would be if she saw the thread. I'm not a Kiara fan but this is so awful. They have someone who is not her fan literally begging them to post nice things and they refuse.

>>1764919
You don't care about posting nice things about Kiara, but you're a Kiara fan? That's tragic.

>>1764930
>6 times now
i wonder when the spam/flooding ban finally kicks it.

>>1764993
Never. Imagine a mod banning someone because they're genuinely asking people in a Kiara thread to post something nice about Kiara.

>>1765041
yeah normal people ask that 1 time and then wait for a reply.
but you posted this 7 times by now within a short period of time. youre breaking the board rule.

>>1765092
You're not a mod, don't pretend you are by trying to enforce rules. Instead, try posting something nice about Kiara.

>>1765092
>>1765128
nta but here's a nice image of Kiara. Now shut up, the lot of you.

>>1764860
next time, think about what you said before going into threads you dont have a business being in and calling everyone mentally ill/SEA/trannies/vpol or whatever group you chose to attack that day.

>>1765177
>shut up
Yes, heaven forbid people speak positively about Kiara in a Kiara thread

>>1765192
since im not doing that in the first place sure. and next time some random dude in another thread calls you a SEA dont come here in this thread, ogay fren?

Some nice streams of hers from a non-KFP's perspective to mitigate the shit that's going on right now.

- Both collabs with Subaru
- Among Us big collab with her working as a translator while playing
- Holotalks are better than their reputation here. The JP fanboys keep throwing tantrums over nothing whenever a new one is about to happen.
- Mario64 sufferingkino
- Mario Kart sufferingkino
- I thought the recent collab with Watame was fine also.

Note that these are subjective opinions. My only bias is that this war that the people keep having on this board is childish. Spammers are the worst offenders.

>>1765269
as long as KFP do it, you will keep being shown the mirror here regularly.
dont do it, and it ends. not a difficult equation.

>>1765330
>if some guy does something i dont like, i will keep coming here and spam your thread to tell you about it

ahhh why are SEA so retarded frens?

>>1762986
>https://youtu.be/1kl5CwGpDNM
>9 mins of being sad
>not once does she say - she's in the wrong or needs to improve like mori/ame did and improved
wow

>>1765422
>ahhh why are SEA so retarded frens?
there we go
wonder what happened to this -> >>1765269

broke your own promise 5 posts in, kfp. do you realize why kiara and in turn you guys are unlikable. you're dishonest to the core, like kiara.

>>1765481
wrong. i called you SEA before, SEA fren. i said i dont go in other unrelated threads and call random people SEA.
less reddit spacing, more reading, SEA.

I think the test was pretty conclusive, Kiara split threads are still a no go.

>>1765514
I'm not though, kek
you guys really are out of your depth without your hugbox, arent you? just calling people sea/mentally ill and more. I've noticed you still havent acknowledged the fact that you dont like what kiara does done to you.

its amazing, really.
>proving me right and giving me good reason why I'm here showing a mirror
thanks, I guess?

>>1765590
iam not kiara. i dont care what she does to you SEAfren. the other people here arent kiara either.
stop spamming threads

I wish 4chan had a DM mode so a two-way argument wouldn't take half the thread.
Just agree to disagree with each other, guys.

>>1765569
let's just say, until KFP accept constructive criticism against kiara on this board, they wont be left alone.

>>1765639
>the other people here arent kiara either.
and I'm not SEA, kfp but we're both here arent we. funny how that works out.

>>1765648
thats the thing. there is nothing to agree upon. he will keep samefag, he will keep spam, he will keep ask stupid questions, he will keep tell us about how much he hates kiara. he does not realize that this has nothing to do with us.

side note: i wish vt had an ID and flag system like /pol/. there are browser addons/filters where you can filter out all retard flags so we wouldnt even see his posts. and the ID system prevents samefagging. shitposting would decrease by 80%.

>>1765628
>those hip bones
>that ever so slight chub on Kiara
God I love these two, and I can't even understand one of them

>>1765648
Too much hate in this world. People unsatisfied with themselves pour their hearths out in useless online crusades only because of someone having a different taste

>>1765628
Turducken collab when?

>>1765788
Well Kiara said due to "feedback" she will significantly decrease collabs. That's why there are no collabs next week (schedule for next week is already uploaded for members, check it out)
So to answer your question; probably gonna take weeks, if not months. And i assume ID girls do not have priority over JP holotalk collabs.

>>1765883
>feedback
from who?

>>1765883
Damn I must've missed that bit during the SC reading.
Next weeks members only looks like it'll be fun at least.

>>1765933
Wasn't specificated what the source was. But whatever feedback she saw, she took it pretty hard.

>>1765933
Check her last stream i don't remember timestamps for that. I also don't remember the correct wording but she said something about " I will do less pooping jokes because some of you don't like it, and I will stop with collabs for now as well"

>>1765977
I think she mentioned before that she checks every single comment on twitter and youtube.
People were pretty pissed about the SC reading thing. And people didn't enjoy the baby talk as well I guess.

>>1765977
>>1765988
must be members then for her to take it pretty hard.
polka has the same issue, some, very few members talked about missing micra from polka & guess what entered the next schedule.

>>1766059
Yeah that might be it.
I might be remembering wrong but she specified that it's just not haters, KFP also said negative things.

>>1766059
I don't think so i have been checking the community posts and i kid you not, not a single negative comment. All of them were "pls dont change tenchou we love you the way you are"

She probably read random comments on twitter.

>>1766157
>I don't think so i have been checking the community posts and i kid you not, not a single negative comment
polka exposed a lot of stuff to me in menhera psychology.
these girls remember their good paypigs' usernames and search their twitter handles regularly.

so, the reason they take these posts hard is, a member they follow said they hated something in another medium. period. when I said member, I didnt mean comments in member posts or member streams.

>>1756865
>It feels like my whole world is crashing down
Lmao, what an autist. Imagine having a mental breakdown because an anime girl got a few comments of constructive criticism. Anything that isn’t bowing down and sucking her off is “being an anti” to you people.

>>1766397
Wrong thread.

>>1766257
She's been known to comment on twitter threads where she wasn't tagged that were among KFP themselves.

>>1766257
I wasn't talking about polka though. But yeah either way, i think banning collabs for a couple weeks is actually a good thing.
This is a really really good test for her channel. Because there are only 2 possible outcomes:

Outcome 1: Her views and SC will significantly increase, which means people enjoy her solo streams much more.

Outcome 2: Her views and SC will significantly decrease, which means people don't know shit about business and she will never listen to critics ever again.

Both outcomes are good, because they are very valuable information concerning her channel.

How long does Kiara have to play until she gets ending A in Automata? I wonder if the first Nier stream of the week will be rather short because of this

>>1766470
I've heard people say that she replies to KFP usernames from her roommate account, is that true?

>1766397
now the samefagging "constructive criticism" schizo is timelooping kek

you cant make this shit up. when do newfrens learn?

>>1766506
Yeah, the retards don't change their name or take off their oshi mark.

>>1766492
If things go smoothly, like an hour or so left. She's right at the end of the route.

>>1766492
She is literally at the very last bossfight. So maybe 30 min? But pretty sure this will be a 6 hour stream.

>>1766531
why is she replying though?

>>1766567
>>1766577
Thanks for confirming what I thought. Hope she has no qualms with starting route B in the same stream!

>>1766591
I don't know, anon. I am not Kiara.
With that being said I personally have never seen her replying to someone with KFP in his name. She very rarely replies in the first place.

>>1764900
thank

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kl5CwGpDNM

I Hope you're happy /vt/

I know I am

>>1767340
Wrong thread.

>>1766397
>constructive criticism
I don't think I've ever heard constructive criticism towards Kiara in /vt/. She was just singled out and targeted as a scapegoat.
The closest thing I've heard is that she's too extroverted and loud, but at the same time that's her character and what makes her unique out of the EN girls.

>>1767716
>I don't think I've ever heard constructive criticism towards Kiara in /vt/
This is either because you stay in your echo chamber (here) or you are too far up Kiara's ass to recognize what needs to be criticized. This sort of behavior is why the KFP will always be viewed as a cult and Kiara will continue to be lambasted for her shortcomings. Keep on making it worse, bud.

>>1755069
Why does she have so many dedicated shitposters on here? She's done nothing wrong and you faggots keeping rrating and generally trying to start shit about her

>>1767716
>>1767765
There was a lot of talk about her microphone settings and what was probably wrong with them during the last week. Not sure who's the tourist here.

>>1767790
Biggest reason is, that /jp/'s hlg was jealous of her being a multilingual weeb who made it ever since her debut. Hating her become a meme and a socially acceptable norm there and here ever since. There is a lot of other reasons, but most of them are mostly nitpicking to add fuel to the fire.

>>1767765
>many
It's the samefag, check his posts. Always the same. Every day all day.

>>1767716
At least she gets tons of support in return

>>1767765
Nigger, if anything is an echochamber in this place is the 5 daily threads of hatred towards Kiara. It's the other way around, the echo chamber is the baseless attacks to her person that you call """""criticism"""". And you're so far up this place's rrats that you actually think they're true.

It doesn't surprise me at all, however. It's mere group phenomenon to single one thing out of a bunch and devalue it. You see it with toddlers in playgrounds all the time. Does make me wonder who would be targeted if people here actually spoke japanese.

>>1767900
>There is a lot of other reasons
/clg/ too. There a dozens of people there mad jealous about her roomate because not only she gets to keep the cosplayer cake, she's also eating the hololive cake.

>>1767938
>Nigger, if anything is an echochamber in this place is the 5 daily threads of hatred towards Kiara.
Because her own "fans" start them. Take a look earlier in the thread at how much begging there was from someone that isn't a Kiara fan for her fans to stop shitposting and instead be positive, but nobody would. KFP just wants to shitpost. You're already doing it again.

>>1768201
YOU are the retard who was spamming and "begging". Fuck off schizo.

>>1768239
Lol sure. Everyone is a schizo to KFP. But nobody ever actually talks about Kiara. You just talk about other fans. She has to hate you guys so much.

>>1766838
>With that being said I personally have never seen her replying to someone with KFP in his name
I just confirmed it, she did 2 days back and today liked multiple pictures having usernames with KFP in their names.

>>1768296
Yes yes, can you go now?

>>1767900
>Biggest reason is, that /jp/'s hlg was jealous of her being a multilingual weeb
lol

>>1768201
Yeah you sure are getting a coordinated attack by a faceless youtube mob. You go with whatever makes you feel justified.

>>1768201
>First sentence
Even with all the falseflagging that's going on in this place, that's probably one of the most farfetched rrats. There's so many things that would not make sense.

>>1765648
We could use IDs in this board, it would easily filter the couple of idiots jerking each other off in every single thread, but I'm not sure if that will ever happen. If /v/ hasn't had them to reduce the amount of shitposting, I completely doubt we'll get them first.

>>1767916
based waddles asking the real questions. they havent answered his question as KFP never do, just deflect and attack the one asking questions.

>>1768334
Nope, I'm here to talk bout Kiara. You can keep posting about SEAs or whatever though. I'm sure she loves that her fans don't like talking about her actual content.

>>1768397
>I completely doubt we'll get them first.
/v/ doesnt have a company moderating their general though, /vt/ does. may happen.

>>1768430
You are not here to talk about Kiara, you are here to shit on her and spam the board you retarded autist.
You will never be Kiara, just off yourself already.

>>1768485
I haven't said a single negative thing about her in this thread, so no, I'm not here to shit on her. I'm here to actually talks about her. I can't help it if her fans like talking about SEAs and rrats more than her. That's a KFP problem.

>>1768430
Talk about her then, instead of picking fights in the thread or shitting on her without anything meaningful to add.

Man, if only it was so easy to ignore, report and hide posts. But nope, gotta take the bait every single time.

>>1768571
That's the thing, I want to learn more about her good points. But all KFP wants to do is shitpost. So I'm calling out the shitposts right now. If you actually post about her content maybe you can have a good thread for once. It's not surprising it seems like she has a lot of hate when her fans never post anything positive. That means literally everything in her threads is just negativity and shitposting.

>>1767765
Hmm, there are KFP like me that are capable of recognizing her flaws are will give her critique for it. But I might be a minority and my paypigging is limited to membership. No SC's. Maybe my view on these matters is also a bit different that the average autist that roams these boards. Personally I despise the concept of an 'oshi' or fargoing fandom on any subject. I never understood why you would limit yourself like that and I never will. So if Kiara stops being entertaining for me, I jump ship. Simple as that. Do I believe that the hate she receives is justified (even with roommate antics taken into account)? No, I don't. Is she the best Hololive has to offer? HELL NO. I don't know the correct term, but I'm assuming she has a pretty bad case of 'failure anxiety' which often becomes a selffulfilling prophecy (just look at her roommates trackrecord). That explains the numberfagging, the desperatly trying to fill silences, going completely overboard with some jokes etc. She's tryharding and I can understand that alot of people are put off by that. But if you stick around like I did, she grows on you, and while I do get annoyed by her sometimes. For now she does put a smile on my face more often than not.

Also, the vast majority of KFP are absolute retards and make me ashamed to be part of them.

>>1768685
Bitching about faults is easy. Leading by example is what actually changes things.

I've done my part amidst this stupid debate. Have you?

>>1756865
Kiara will be fine, and if worse really does come to worse HololiveEN can survive one of its members graduating.

>>1768784
I'm not a Kiara fan. I don't like her. You, a KFP, are asking someone who doesn't like her to lead the charge in positivity. That's pretty stupid. All I', asking is that you try to discuss her actual content instead of continuing to spread negativity. But you wont do that. You'll reply to this post with some more shit that isn't about Kiara.

>>1768837
>I'm not a Kiara fan. I don't like her.
You don't say.
Then why are you here schizo. Just leave and stop spamming

>>1768837
I'm >>1765300
Not a KFP but still watching her content occasionally.
Fan threads are usually slow outside streams to begin with. It's not surprising if a debate drowns normal posts.
If you want to leave pointers on how to improve, just paint your criticism in a way that doesn't offend the fans.

>>1766490
honestly im hoping for outcome 2 kek. this will make so many retards here seethe. its gonna be pure kino. and i like her the way she is anyway.

>>1768789
Kiara WILL be fine, because her genmates like her regardless of her flaws. Mori respects her and considers her the most hardworking of the quintet and she has a very good relationship with Gura, it is only during 3+ people collabs when those flaws seem amplified because she doesn't like dead silence.

She will improve after this experience, so I'm not worried about her.

>>1768934
Yep, as expected. "All I'm asking is that you try to discuss her actual content instead of continuing to spread negativity. But you wont do that. You'll reply to this post with some more shit that isn't about Kiara."

Of course you did. You're so predictable.

>>1768952
No other threads are like these ones. This is unique, where her fans are literally incapable of posting anything good about her when asked.

>>1769012
You are still spammibn. 20+ posts now. just fuck off retard.

>>1769037
you just cant call something you dont like spam, doesnt work that way

>>1769012
>No other threads are like these ones.
Yes, this is unique because it gets extremely frequently raided by antis and shitposters. What are the fans supposed to do in such a situation in their one containment thread? Just turn the other cheek?

>>1769005
Based unity bro

>>1769037
And you just keep replying with posts that aren't about Kiara. Who is really the spammer? The one that wants to talk about her or the one that wants to talk about anything but her?

>>1769065
You are asking the same thing 20 times. 1 time is enough. Just wait for replies. But you keep asking. It's spamming retard.

>>1769068
Uh I'd expect them to post something positive about her, but they don't.

>>1769100
That wasn't me, unsurprisingly other people think you're a shitposter too.

>>1769085
I don't give a fuck about your spam asking for artwork. This a containment thread for KFP to chill. I dont care if a random schizo asks me to "post nice art for him"
Just off yourself autist. Nobody likes you, and you will NEVER be Kiara.

fucking kek dude
now would you look at that

>>1769128
That's a fairly good idea actually, though not sure how it'd turn out. I mean, saying something nice about her instead of lashing out. Positivity to counterbalance negativity, at least in this thread.
Still it'd be needless spam.

>all those deleted posts

Thank you Meido.

>>1769200
It was a fun collab. I hope Watame invites TakaMori for one soon enough.

>>1756865
Your problem, was being invested on Gringos Vtubers

All Hail to Meido for bringing peace during these accursed times

Kiara said finally downloaded DS4 for her gamepad ( how the fuck did she play without it before?) and also she made a privat stream testing Nier windows store version, and it seems to work fine without any lags.

>act like an annoying baby on purpose
>people get annoyed
>get depressed because people got annoyed
???

I'm sorry fellas but I ain't watching the second Hobbit movie. That thing is a drag.

>>1769329
i never did a watchalong ever. i just have the stream open and use it as a podcast, if that makes sense. might be stupid but whatever

Not KFP but just warning the more naive KFPbros that you guys have an infestation of concerntrolls since last stream so just be vigilant

>>1769368
Same here. Will have the stream open while I do some household stuff.

>>1769329
i'm gonna do reps while it plays!

>>1765661
based anon on a mission
>until kiara and kfp hear my autistic rants, i will NEVER leave them alone
may you come back from your ban even more obstinate

>>1767765
>>1767340
Yeah, the best choice for all content creators is to blacklist places like this, its toxic and will only bringer her down. I do admit that I hope she can grow as a person but she is not the only reason EN collabs feels a bit weird, their group dynamic needs a bit of work.
She is just the loud voice in the room, so she get the most shit for a group issue.

>>1769238
M-meidos did their job?
>>1769329
I’m only watching it because it’s my first time.

>>1769329
>>1769329
>Take one book and stretch it's story out nearly 8 hours and 3 movies
I'm still confused why did they do that

>>1769390
Since last stream? Anon, they have been there from the start. The first time she cried about the scuffed debut and her being last in line caused a giant influx of saviourfags and concerntrolls.
But yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if even more came pouring in now.

>>1769471
was the poop thing even a thing from here? I've seen some stuff here about her being rude to other holos in collabs, but that's not even addressed in that video.
Though obviously I haven't seen every single thread.

>>1769471
No reason to blacklist a place like this, you just have to understand what you're getting into. 4chan can have some of the most open and best criticisms around due to the lack of filter, but you have to wade through all of the garbage and be able to suss out true intent vs cynicism for the sake of cynicism. Anyone who's willing to type a decent amount of words to explain themselves or their feelings on a subject around here probably is worth at least scanning over their post.

>>1769500
it's a huge book, isn't it
i remember running on fumes trying to read the fucking thing

>>1769500
Money.

>>1769522
Saviorfags over antis ANY DAY of the week. They might be annoying, but at least they just want the best for her.

>>1769500
The CGI aged poorly as well.
I hope we get some nice reactions from Kiara at least.
>>1769528
The poop thing was from reddit/twitter.

>>1769538
Around 300 pages.
The LOTR movie trilogy had around 1100 pages to draw from.
So yeah The Hobbit movie trilogy is fucking stretched.

>>1769528
I think it more twitter than 4chan that went crazy about that, the hate from here is mostly about feeling that she is rude during collabs like you said and aggressively using pity as a gimmick for donations.

>>1769531
Wading though that garbage takes a real mental toll and I rather have a manager or intern do that rather than one of the talents, besides its easy to point at problems but real solutions are hard, its why genuine constructive comments are basically nonexistent vs the shit flinging poop pile that anti vs fanboys

>>1769329
I'll watch it again with her, just like I watch her play games I don't care about. It's all about Kiara.

I'm not reading 200 posts but here you go.

>>1769827
>monday
SHE'S HERE
GOD DAMNIT AAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>1769827
Just realized the monday stream is pretty late.

>>1769714
I'm not telling them to come here every day and read every shitpost that comes across the screen, but when you notice that the youtube comments are starting to come up with a little negativity, you know somethings wrong. At that point, it might be worth it to wade through a little shit to get genuine comments because you won't get much more than the single comment that made it through on those youtube ones. Kiara needs to just tone her hyperness down just a little on the collabs, I don't think it would be bad at all. Sure, you still get the 'antis', but they'll always be around.

>>1769327
Did you ever hear the story of Matsuricha-senpai?

I thought not. It's not a story Cover Corp would tell you. It's a Nijisanji legend.

Matsuricha-senpai was a 1st Generation hololive idol, so clingy and so shameless she could manipulate sympathy to create… love. She had such a knowledge of the child side that she could even keep the ones who were grossed out by her from leaving her. The child side of sympathy is a pathway to many behaviors some consider to be… menhera.

She became so clingy, the only thing she was afraid of was being cucked by her crush… which eventually, of course, she was. Unfortunately, she taught her kouhai everything she knew, then her kouhai blew her up in MiCra.

Ironic… She could make others fall in love with her, but not her crush.

>>1769875
It looks like she's trying to give a little love to the USA again with Monday and Saturday.

>>1769528
The poop thing is not from here. Anons here just memes with "Kiara talks about poop again" and "scat fetish".

>>1755338
Random ace combat reference is always appreciated

>>1770031
I don't know if any of the holos would be really compatible for that though.
Either way it'd be nice though. Too many people sleep on the series and its 11/10 soundtracks.

KFP is already starting to hugbox her in this members stream. Jesus.

>>1770219
Gonna hug her box and there's nothing you can do to stop me.

>>1770219
Every Holo's members only is a hugbox.

>>1770178
if you're looking for AC chubas, Koopa has talked about streaming Zero

>>1770219
They're her fans. It's like expecting your mom to not try to cheer you up. Not everyone has the same relationship to her as you do nor wants to.

Kiara's room smells like cat pee and it's full of flies... I want to look after her and clean up her messes and make sure she eats properly before streaming...

>>1755069
Test received

>>1769949
Not to mention Gura had a moment that stream where she sighed and said comment that was basically a veiled jab at Kiara's baby act, somethingl ike 'I would have eaten if you if we were sharks in the womb' which is kind of hard to interpret, but sounds vaguely threatening.

I'd guess Gura meant like "our personalities would have clashed if I didn't know you, and I'd have torn you to shreds" in one possible meaning, but it's most likely "your humor is lame and getting on my nerves." That would makes sense in that Gura is more subtle, and tries to be careful to not drag out a joke until it becomes lame.

>>1770320
She basically already said she wants to do this no collab thing in the MC stream, so it annoys me when people try to change it.

>>1769528
The baby shit thing annoyed us because she dragged it out way too long and also kept leaning on it to fill dead air despite the fact basically nobody was laughing. She couldn't read the room basically.

We were more annoyed about the dead air thing overall I'd say but the baby batsugemu was simply the easy thing to point out as most people finding it lame and annoying.

>>1770219
If you groom a hugbox fanbase you will get just that, its a shame they dont realize that a hugbox wont help anything, they are basically saying that she is wrong to try to improve herself.

>>1770523
At least she seems as adept at ignoring them as she is at ignoring criticism.

>>1770523
It's ok to like Kiara, but basically the psychotic degree of anti-ness some people have for her essentially validates half of the hardcore whiteknighting on her behalf. The other half is Kiara herself constantly commenting on it. If people weren't such utter tryhards against her she would have way less to be sad about, whether she is actually down or playing it up.

The antis, ironically, are what enable Kiara to keep up the very acts/behaviors they criticize. They literally are what's making her rich. The KFP have way less reason to let their guard down when they can plainly see hate bending people into irrational beings.

>>1769329
Watchalongs are the most low effort content. Fuck Ame for introducing the shrek one.

>>1770672
>They literally are what's making her rich.
I mean ain't she among the lowest grossing holos?
or the powergap so great that the lowest earning holo still swimming in dosh

>>1769329
I have two monitors though so I can grind shit while doing it.

>>1770842
She's usually at or near the top of ENs along with Mori, and overall both those two are extremely high-earning Holos. Both those two also have ultra-hardcore antis which whips up their fanbases to have a circle-the-wagons defensive coddling nature, which probably opens up their wallets extra-wide.

When you look at people like Ina who literally says she doesn't want your SCs, doesn't read them and generally is always chill aka not emotional or sad ever, you get her having between a third to half of Kiara's income. They relatively both make a lot of money, but Kiara is still in that "how/why does she even make that much" tier especially factoring that she's about tied with Ina in subs and tends to half way way less viewers to boot. Her fanbase is small but what people do get through her filters clearly feel a strong need to try to console and protect her.

>>1770780
I'm honestly happy for any content that isn't video games

I am not so much a fan of Kiara she is such a downer all the time and she moans to much don't really get on with it and in collabs she is just to loud I like it more when the other girls are together with Kiara it is to much

>>1770842
She's 15th in Hololive for superchats.

>>1770672
>>1770842
>>1770937
Its all boils down to whales, a few power users who donate massive amounts over time, the sub count are just there to attract them.

>>1771026
Some dude donated 1000 dollars across the two worst streams she has ever done in my opinion.

>>1770437
Yeah, she seems to have a problem realizing that a joke is bombing and tries to double down instead. That makes her greatest strength, which is basically trying really hard at whatever she is doing, work against her. You also can’t blame the audience for not liking the joke, even if you personally thought it was funny. It feels like she needs a partner to help her with that, since chat is too impersonal for that sometimes.

>>1771252
She just recently started distrusting YTC at least for minecraft. Said that they cause her more stress than help and started googling on stream for minecraft stuff.

>>1771252
basically her rickrolls

>>1771518
no the rickrolls are hilarious actually, she should keep doing those. I just want her to increase the complexity of them so we expect it less and less

>>1771284
That’s kind of sad, but I think she can still get feedback from chat as far as whether a joke works for them or not. It’s just that it’s a lot harder to tell if it works for an audience at large, which is why the large negative reaction during the collab could have been confusing. I think it’s great that her fans have her back no matter what, but she needs to hear when something isn’t working from someone she won’t feel betrayed by.

>>1771518
A lame running joke is probably okay as long as it doesn’t take up too much time at once. She does probably need a more current joke of that type, though.

>>1755069
...is a subhuman whore who slept around with people in order to get to where she's at right now in her life. pathetic little piece of shit requiring the verbal and emotional reinforcement of others to function properly because she's too useless when it comes to getting rid of her impostor syndrome problems by herself.

>>1762986
What a whiny piece of shit.
Why aren't women able to just not give a fuck about whatever anyone says about them?

>>1770342
stenchou...

>>1771543
Well, I'd like her to do something like this in Minecraft, but it might be a bit to difficult for her to pull off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_pswpFXlJ4

Is it true that she's the queen of kike?

>>1771888
Something like this would be incredible

>>1771888
maybe she could ask for help from ina on that?

>>1770342
>think to myself her hygiene is going to be better once she's back home
>it's somehow just as bad
that girl ain't right

>>1771888
This would be so perfect I have no expectation it will ever happen.

>>1766099
The way she constantly said "you guys" when talking about the baby shit complains for example certainly made it sound like it was coming from KFP.
Hell chat even confirmed it the moment she mentioned it.

>>1771888
>F3 shows the note value.
Well, shit, learn something new every day.

falling seriously in love with a cartoon bird

>>1772333
Yeah, I wonder if this is why she was so upset. But if you don’t think something is funny, there’s not a whole lot you can do about it. But it’s also not a bad thing if they are letting her know they didn’t like it, even if she’s hurt in the short term. Otherwise it’s going to be a lot harder for her to trust the feedback she gets from her fans if they are afraid to tell her when something isn’t working.

>>1772814
The real issue isn't even what she does, it's that she's so fucking excessive about everything. Nobody would have minded the baby shit if she had actually shut the fuck up for more than 0.1 seconds every once in a while and didn't babble while others were trying to talk. I don't think she'll ever realize that though, it actually takes a minimal level of self-awareness, which she clearly lacks.

Can we trade back Shark-meido for Chimken-meido? Atleast he didn't delete any criticism, Kiara-meido is full on power trips. Just check this thread's warosu.

>>1773018
I agree that the lack of self-awareness is a problem, but I don’t think that’s something she couldn’t learn. She’d have to take advice about it from the right person though, and I have no clue who that would be.

>>1773786
The problem is that she's not even in the right mindset to improve. Her response to all the criticism was essentially "Wow you guys are so easily TRIGGERED by everything geez but I GUESS I'll stop just so you whiny bitches will shut up".
Even before his she made a similar passive-aggressive comment about not reading SCs anymore at the end of a collab, like she couldn't believe someone had the audacity to complain about that. She just really doesn't think she did anything wrong.

This is veering into schizo rrat territory but the way she talked about popularity and stuff, ie. how it's all just based on luck and opportunity as if nobody has control over it makes me wonder if she basically just thinks she's the least popular because of random chance and not because of her performance.

>>1773758
Ironically you sound like Kiara right now.

>>1771518
The hidden-in-plain-sight German rickroll in the Gura collab was great though.

>>1773926
I don't think that's true, otherwise she wouldn't say she'll be working harder and keep trying to do new stuff.

You people forget all the things she's done to keep afloat. holotalk and her collabs came about because she saw herself underperforming in comparison to the others. She originally didn't want to speak German but she ended up doing classes and fairy tales in the language, because people told her it was okay. She knew to capitalize on coincidences like Nene singing connect at the same time or YT deleting her channel.

Believe in her for Christ's sake. The last thing she needs is you thinking she's a loser too.

Kiara seems like a naturally likeable person when she isn't trying so hard to be over-the-top entertaining.

>>1771888
KFP with this BGM in Pekoland LMAO

Why can't she just use her real voice like Mori?

>>1774663
Because she doesn't want to. Aka this tomorrow and see where that goes.

>>1773926
I think you might be right about her current attitude, but she’s still a young woman. It’s totally possible she does some self reflection and is able to make some improvements. She has some very loyal fans at the moment, so she is doing some stuff right. It’s just a matter of realizing there is a problem by hearing it from someone she doesn’t think is a “hater”.

>>1774663
Surprisingly she's never mentioned this criticism even though it's old as fuck.

>>1774663
why would she, her voice is cute

>>1774663
Because she unironically thinks that her chicken voice is what the nips and fans prefer, but in reality it just makes her another generic sounding idol with a high pitched voice. Her real one would be much better.

>>1773926
>"Wow you guys are so easily TRIGGERED by everything geez but I GUESS I'll stop just so you whiny bitches will shut up".

I mean, do you really blame her? I can imagine being in her position and just getting so fed up by constant attacks and insults that she ends picking words she probably didn't mean because english isn't her first language, this after being forced to leave Japan because her Visa expired when she had finally made a very good friend there she could rely on. I can only imagine how extremely frustrating it can be and her antis nitpicking at every single thing she does doesn't help at all. I see people comparing her with Coco and that she's stronger and can deal with attacks better, but just be aware that their positions in life are completely different and even Coco at one point reached her breaking point because hateful people can be such relentless subhumans, but at least she's living with Kanata who always checks on her, but Kiara had to leave Mori behind, she doesn't have that immediate support anymore.

Just give her some time, she's doing her best for herself and for everyone, but she's just being attacked from all sides and the only thing she can do is tank everything and keep moving forward.

>>1774975
I love her voice!

>>1775034
Good for you. My ears start bleeding after 15 minutes in the solo streams if she really cranks it up.

>>1775002
>Just give her some time
Can you name anything that she changed up during the first 6 months that wasn't something she came up with?

>>1773926
>TRIGGERED
Yeah, once she used this term, the gig was up.

>>1775002
>give her time
Okay, how much? Should we prorate her for the previous six months, too?

>>1775446
if you're expecting her to change who she is, probably forever. if you don't like it, don't watch. as for collabs though, i do agree she needs to review how she behaves in those

Right now there are 7 threads dedicating to Kiara in the catalog

>>1775305
I don't remember it being nearly as much of a problem while still in Japan... I wonder what happened.
I feel like Just toning down the treble area would help tons already.

I love when she sings slow, low songs.

>>1775484
>if you don't like it, don't watch
I don't, anymore. My complaints are about the collabs.

>>1775488
Not enough.

>>1775488
When a pile of shit is smelling up the restaurant, everyone comments. If you don't like me using the phrase, "pile of shit," as a metaphor, remember, Kiara herself defended a natural bodily process on stream.

>>1775639
i cant even understand what you people are trying to say anymore

>>1775715
Hello Kiara. Learn to read the room.

Seems like it was a mistake to revive this thread

Oh boy the schizo is ban evading.

>>1775488
It's been way worse on weekends specifically. At least now it's concernfaggotry with some proper discussion mixed in instead of just a bunch of kids jumping in the hate bandwagon to get some kicks out of the sense of hatred-bound unity while school's out.

>>1775791
All me. The entire thread, even this post, is me.

>>1775715
オレンジな女が悪いよ!

>>1775812
Well, hate posting became concern fagging because it seemed like she was listening, but at the end of the stream she started to blame the audience for being "triggered" instead of realizing her comedic delivery sucks and she's not actually a people person at all.

>>1773926
>she made a similar passive-aggressive comment about not reading SCs anymore at the end of a collab
Yeah that was strange. No holo senpais and certainly not Pekora have ever done a SC reading in a collab stream before.

>>1775775
>>1775789
they are too obsessed with her, but also people here shouldn't be responding to them, I couldn't see it but it looks like the members only streams were very good but there was more conversation in the general than here

I wasn't member when Kiara did the LOTR movies, so I guess I'll have to watch those.

Any good timestamps from the member stream?

>>1775944
I feel like /hlgg/ is the only place left to discuss, every other thread on the catalogue goes to shit way too fast

Just be there during the upcoming week. I'm sure she'll do just as well for everyone that's enjoyed her streams in the first place.

>>1775944
it kind of showed member != discord

>>1776066
They say she sang very well at the end, fuck I want to see that
>>1775946
I've been a member for a month but I've never seen those, I don't know why watching old content filters me out a lot

My sex slave

>>1759763
That's one of my favourite games ever, and I'm pissed that we're getting some 4 player co-op game instead of a sequel.
Still mad that Korone floated the idea of playing it, but chat told her not to because it's "too hard", faggots

>>1759763
I kind of want a cute anime girl who only plays puppet combo games.

>>1776597
That's... hmm.

I want to put my nose in her armpits

>>1775639
I will defend Kiara's natural bodily responses until I die.

>>1776147
her streams this week are mostly solo so I expect a very comfy week, I like her 1x1 collabs but I like more when she streams solo, she is so fucking entertaining

>>1776954
Collabs always have a time limit, but Kiara is going to try to break her own record if she streams alone.

>check archives for this thread
>57 deleted posts
What the fuck? OP you better hold off on making a new thread when this one dies

Thoughts?

>>1778917
a lot better than orange woman

>>1778352
I said it was a test.

I kind of think Kiara would work well with Danganrona, since we're apparently in rpg hell,

ALL ME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kl5CwGpDNM&ab_channel=Rizulix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kl5CwGpDNM&ab_channel=Rizulix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kl5CwGpDNM&ab_channel=Rizulix

>>1780246
The piano music just makes me laugh.

Bluepill me on Kiara

>>1782048
She's cute and funny.

>>1782048
Lighthearted, happy-go-lucky woman who sometimes has her enthusiasm overpower everything and get annoying. Some collabs are ok, more recent ones have been rough, but solo streams are still nice to watch. Has the cutest laugh when she's laughing really hard. Goes from normal to an inward laugh making it really squeaky and choppy. I fucking love her laugh.

So how was the hobbit stream? Worth watching?

>>1784510
She didn't specify version so have fun.

>>1782048
Beautiful bird who tries her very hardest to have fun with her viewers and genuinely (and if not genuine at the very least is a great actor) loves her fans to the point where she remembers regulars who disappear from the stream and pop up again. I will admit her enthusiasm can be overbearing during some collabs where she can’t help but try to fill every instance of dead air, but her solo streams though long are always great to have in the background as she can make chatting about almost anything trivial interesting and fun.

>>1784571
Didn’t she say the extended edition or did I just imagine that.

>>1784571
MOVIE:The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug Extended Edition (I'm watching on Amazon)
In description.

>>1782048
shes shit

holy fuck at 14:50
she almost doxed her new apartment
pls birb just stop it

>>1784868
Good going retard, now the comments are going to spam it

>some random person says i have to go to the toilet can you please wait before starting?
>kiara: ok
>after 3 min: is the person from the toilet back? who was it? can i start?

WHY IS SHE SO WHOLESOME
we do not deserve her

>>1784925
Spam what? She didn't dox herself. She said: "I should stop talking before I dox myself"
It's literally nothing.

>>1784868
She kind of winks at doxniggers to begin with, doubt she cares.

I want a Heart Challenger sweater design so much, Huke please.

>>1784868
really? what did she say?

>>1785537
nothing. she was talking about where her new apartment is gonna be / where she found it and then realized "oh i should shut the fuck up"
you know how she is. once she starts ranting she forgets about her holo avatar act and becomes herself and starts talking about her life (which is why we love her and why she is so different)

>>1784945
Is this from the watchalong? I don't think I will be able to watch it until tomorrow

>>1785895
yes

>>1773758
The fuck are you talking about? https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/search/tnum/1755069/deleted/deleted/
the 4th post onwards are all the same faggot just check the deletion timestamp, nothing else has been deleted since

>>1787287
>Wow these are a lot of deleted posts for sure
>Realize there are actually 3 pages of deleted posts

Holy shit the fuck is wrong with these retards? Samefagging and spamming all day. Do they have nothing better to do? And then they ban evade and samefag again, saying "t-this guy actually did nothing wrong... constructive criticism!!!"

>>1787287
>not everyone is a schizo spammer just because you dont like what he says
>proceeds to spam 60 fucking posts

cant make this shit up

>>1787364
>>1787450
no wonder he's been calm recently, I hope people here will also learn from that not to reply to these people

>>1787287
first post at Sun 21 Mar 2021 07:28:45
last post at Sun 21 Mar 2021 13:15:07
almost 6 straight hours entirely spent seething about orange woman, after seeing this damn it feels good not being mentally ill.

>>1787606
not really. replying to him got him banned because he kept spamming the thread out of rage.
i agree that you shouldnt reply to dox or super obvious bait. but if someone constantly makes up rrats and spams the shit out of your thread then there is nothing wrong defending your oshi.

remember: the ones getting banned are the shittalkers, not the fans who just wanna chill.

https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1373948504452763650

KIARA MOONA COLLAB FUCKING KEK

>>1789794
>it's real
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!