/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

omg im barfinG!! ilove her

cringe

I FUCKING LOVE KAWAIIOPE MORIRIN AND I WANT TO MARRY THIS DORK, START A FAMILY WITH THIS DORK, AND RAISE A SON WITH THIS DORK, A SON WHO’LL INHERIT OUR RESPECTIVE BEST TRAITS AND ATTRIBUTES BUT IS ALSO JUST AS MUCH OF A DUMB CHUUNI AS HIS BEAUTIFUL DORK OF A MOTHER

>>17731358
based shork

Cute Mori!!
Love Mori!

>>17731301
Damn, when did >we get so cool?

who will perform [Q] in karaoke first?

>>17731488
Nobody, it sucks.

Mori love
TT hate
shoot TTfags on sight

>>17731488
which ever one of them does an unthemed karaoke first
so far leaning towards gura

>>17731488
Hmm...Ina! Then Mori and Gura will sit threre and QQ

Is /ggg/ ok? They don’t seem interested in their oshi’s new song.

>>17731589
>/ggg/
>ok
not since november

>>17731589
Not when people like you trying to poorly start tribalfags shit exist. Leave both threads and try in global maybe

hungry reaper

>>17731488
I could see Mori doing it first. While I imagine singing in a non-native language would require a lot of practice from Gura, Mori has more verses and is probably more familiar with the song as a whole. Though honestly, I got the impression that Mori and Gura were supposed to go back and forth throughout the entire song sharing the hook and verses, but in the end they decided to just do a hard split, so maybe Gura can do the other parts and we just don't know it.

>>17731589
I went in /ggg/ yesterday and they were mostly hornyposting, which is among the better kinds of posting in my book.

Thoughts

>>17732106
Mori will rap to the Gura-only edit

Aqua being a closet fan of Mori's music is not what I expected to learn today

>>17732250
very cool, now tag her on twitter

>>17732250
I fucking hate it.

>>17732250

>>17732270
Her making a killtage with Red is making me think she’s been in contact recently.

>>17732270
I don't think it's very closeted, most JP holos go kakkoi any time she's brought up.

>>17732106
I expected a back and forth too. With some rapping and rockong from both. Maybe next time. Or a song with Gura rapping and Mori singing. Really mix it up.

>>17732260
Would be cool. Or maybe they have special audio of the separate part so Gura can do her parts with Mori's still there.

>>17731519
Brb, gotta go shoot my oshi

>>17732426
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vT9VHtRptJ10Z03r-l0yYgT32X3dPmhCxeKKywhAMHcxKiJE6AJX2ArVcqQ5KIOKI9cT5sgZC2eNJQg/pub
Just beat her instead

>50K More

>>17732375
Both are autistic as fuck (at least with Japanese interaction Mori is), so that would be quite the feat

>>17732381
>which idiots will read as "they're company mandated to say it!"
>and is one of the leading reasons why some of their masks slip up as some of them are 100% into GFE.

>>17732775
What point do you even think you're making here?

Man I hate to admit it but the gura only edit slaps harder than the version with Mori.
Maybe Mori bit the hand that feeds that also had a knife!

Honestly though, do you think DECO is responsible for the chorus sounding so bad or do you think she's just been spreading herself too thin?

>>17732775
They already did last night in response to all the JPs tweeting about the song. Some of them even tried to imply they were doing it for clout, which is really enlightening when you remember these are the same people who were bashing deadbeats for allegedly shitting on other holos while propping Mori up. SEAniggers are something else.

>>17732865
>do you think she's just been spreading herself too thin?
Yes.

>>17732865
I disagree on both fronts, personally.

>>17732865
You know exactly where she's been spreading herself

>talking to himself again

>>17732817
I'm implying that some of them are in awe, because they can't muster up the courage to break away and do what they want, simply because they already got deadlocked by their fanbases.

>>17732994
On the couch, next to me (she's my wife).

>>17733005
Do you think Mori looks down on Rushia, Lamy, Okayu, Noel etc because they do GFE?

>>17733049
IKR. Simply ruining both the mixing, the panning, as well as the special blending they had, just to show /vt/ that they're cool is NUTS.

>>17733088
No. Arguments like these are nuanced. Because at the same time: Mori has that same feeling, just the reverse. That some of her senpai have the courage to put on a performance, and not be ashamed..

People have to understand that there are always two paths to what holos will do to stand out. Freedom or Dependence. Neither are wrong.

>>17733088
Short answer: no
Long answer: ___________________________________________________________________________no________________________________________________________________________________________________

>>17733088
I don't think she looks down on them, Mori has always been very clear about respecting the hustle, even if she wouldn't do it. She's probably just glad she doesn't feel like she has to do it. even though Mori is actually the most powerful GFE out there.

>>17733088
Same stance she always had, if you like its ok jutst dont force it on others

>>17732964
I mean you can have your opinion but do you really think it's better than her previous stuff? I dunno just feels kinda amateurish to me in comparison to a lot of her other tracks, especially Red.

>>17732250
I love it

>>17733168
>Freedom or Dependence.
Nobody forced these women to act in a certain manner. I think the way you present this false dichotomy is deluded and schizophrenic. Take your meds - or better yet, fuck off back to Twitter and take your neo-puritanical attitude with you.

>>17733311
Damn you're just throwing out buzzwords wildly at this point lol. You fucking idiot.

>>17733088
Why? Just why? Why do you have to out yourself as threadreading drama peddlers so easily? Mori stated her opinion on both her senpai and at least Rushia very explicitly. If you watched streams you'd know it.

>>17733080
Congrats on the happy marriage! Tell her I said "hi"

>>17733307
You don't have to phrase it like such a loaded question. I just like the song. I think it's pretty good. I like Red too, but I this one is new and I'm still chewing on it.

>>17733311
Nobody forced them, yes. Which is why the argument is N-U-A-N-C-E-D. They do not decide this on a whim, and thus have every right to stick their current direction, irregardless of what others say.

>>17733389
>N-U-A-N-C-E-D
>Freedom or Dependence
Real big brain and nonjudgemental of you, champ.

>>17733168
>Freedom

Honestly I think that what is getting Mori down more than anything is that "Freedom" in the entertainment industry is just a meme. Everybody, even the megastars is held down by something, it may be their label/studio or it may be the fans buying stuff or for indies its being monetary constraints. Nobody is truly free to create what they want when they want. I think that by learning that is what is what brings down her mood the most

>>17733378
No. If you like a restaurant's burger, you absolutely cannot like their wings as well

>>17733545
are they boneless?

>>17733473
Anon, just because the word "or" is used doesn't mean that it's a choice between them, especially when the statement clearly says: neither are wrong.

It actually embraces that the holo is equipped to tinker with both.

>>17733583
Bull shit.

>>17733617
the "or" in English does not mean the XOR

>>17733694
Or means or, anon, indicating a choice, indicating a conflict. Try talking straight to somebody for once in your life, this isn't a fucking social studies class, it's 4chan.

>>17733378
>>17733545
That's fair sorry didn't mean to phrase it like that, I dunno just feeling a bit disappointed. It's like going to a good steakhouse and eating good for a long time but then you take a friend to eat there and they're all out of steak.
I think DECO could've done better with Gura on it and that maybe the process shoulda had a bit more time in the oven.
It's not that it's bad it's just not the same level of quality I've come to expect, I guess.

I like Q, I think it's catchy

>>17733755
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_disjunction

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exclusive_or

>>17733576
Do you not start with the war of boneless vs bone

>>17733576
What do you mean by boneless?

>>17733755
No, dumbass. there's a simple "OR" and an EXCLUSIVE OR (XOR), one denotes that an argument can have a nuanced answer, and the other is literal point-a-gun and there can only be ONE.

>>17733777
I think its on par with other DECO songs, but its not a fit for Mori specifically, personally I like it and will loop it for a long time but I agree they have the potential to make something much better

>>17734006
Mori and Gura could cover FSII and it'll be awesome.

>>17733983
When Mori had to bring up the nuggies != boneless wings argument in order to get Gura off her back you know she lost

>>17733995
>>17733168
>People have to understand that there are always two paths to what holos will do to stand out. Freedom or Dependence. Neither are wrong.
So you can take both paths? Stop being a disingenuous fuck and look yourself in the mirror.

Since Q is so high octane energy, I had a thought that the Takamori song could be slow and sweet. Could be nice.

>>17733777
It didn't help that its "HoloEN's two best musical talents collabing" on top of already being delayed to make it "perfect" driving up people's expectations that it will be "The best HoloEN song ever". If this version of the song released in December like most thought I think people's thoughts would be less double-sided. People always go to that Miyamoto quote "A delayed game is eventually good" but a delay will raise expectations in turn and there comes a point where expectations will exceed what a product can possibly deliver no matter how many passes it gets.

I like Q but also am let down after how much Mori hyped it. I saw another anon post that it felt like the song was made for the MV rather than the other way around. She just needs to stop announcing things until whatever project she's working on is physically in her hands and the release is 100% under her control.

>>17734156
I would actually really like a slow duet song for the takamori original

>>17734093
nta, But are you blind? the supplement "Neither is wrong" implies that there are a myriad of options to go about that choice. It directly tells you that though these two factors are tugging you are different directions, they can be managed to fit your own answer.

It may be your american "console war" brain that disables your ability to discern.

>>17734156
I feel that fits the prospective Inamori song better. It fits Ina's personality and singing style better for a slower and more mellow song. Takamori song will probably sound more High energy Pop as that is Kiara's taste.

>>17734227
Makes me wonder how close things were to actually releasing when she announced it back in December
My guess is that they had gotten word that the mix was almost done which led to the rescheduling and rerecordings after they had received it

>>17734156
>>17734295
I feel kinda bad saying this but please no rap for either of these

It's because Mori does not sing and Gura doesn't rap.

That's what most people are bummed about; They didn't get to role-reverse. I mean the song is good, but the dynamic is too tired because This is literally Cloudy Sheep, only with Gura.

Hey, Deadbeats. How are you doing today? Doing your reps? What all have you accomplished or worked towards today?

>>17734156
Takamori song is nice but lam still waiting for mori and IRYS original song

>>17734421
I woke up and finished making sound effects, now I'm gonna take a shower and eat lunch

>>17731301
>it's ANOTHER "muh antis" song
lol, lmao

>>17734393
I can see your argument. Give something really different rather than just "Mori Rap guest starring Ame/Ina/Kiara".

Hot take here, but I think a Mumori song would actually be better, thanks to them having the same taste in music.

>>17734401
I liked it but I think alot of people are frustrated at the lack of Gura singing the way she can in official releases without having her voice processed to hell
of course that could be her choice, but I know she's really proud of the backing harmonies (not sure if thats the right word don't rip me apart for that) she records

>>17734401
I actually like Cloudy Sheep...

>>17734265
No, "Neither is wrong" is a statement that they're not judged no matter which of the two conflicting choices they make, either "Doing what they want" or being "Deadlocked by their fanbases."

But that makes you sound like a fucking judgemental prick, so I restate: take your false dichotomy and fuck off where you came from.

>>17734525
If they make a song and it doesn’t sound like it could be from Hamilton, I will be writing Cover a strongly worded letter.

>>17734525
I see that and raise you a Faumori MCR-tribute song.

>>17734421
Recovering from my 3rd surgery in 2 years. So living in spirit with Mori and her anxiety towards her upcoming one.

>>17734572
It's in your head, anon. The other person already unpacked his argument and yet you still argue that it sets up a false dichotomy.

>>17734552
I am honestly becoming more and more appaled by this shithole due to posts like this. You've been told that Gura spent quite some time doing retakes for this. She was perfecting her part so what you have now is what she considers perfect for this song. What makes you think that this is not her own choice?

>>17734688
overreactionchama...
I didn't mean "could" as in maybe yes maybe no, I meant "could" as in "was"

>>17734588
>>17734525
You're both missing the mark here
FauMeiMori early-2000's inspired song

>>17734421
Cardio today. I went hiking through the woods. No poems for a while, my muse is still and silent.

My Omocat merch arrived.

https://youtu.be/PD2LnnBBkuk
If you idiots have time to argue about and and ors and xors and thors and whatever the fuck you have time to check out one of Mori's cute kouhai trying to speed ruin GOI and play around with her GoXLR

>>17734006
Yeah I guess that's true. It does kinda give me Vampire vibes I guess.

>>17734500
>it's ANOTHER threadreader post
rumao, even

>you are that one idiot who gets the Deadbeat Jacket, and you put on THAT Shirt inside.

Don't let me see you with that getup, or else, I WILL KILL YOU :}

>>17734789
but I watched it live...

>>17734482
Oh, sweet. You're the game dev, right? Any chance of you releasing a WIP video of some kind at some point soon? Also, what kind of game is it? I wasn't around for you mentioning that part. I was the guy you talked to about the pink bandanas.

>>17734552
I don't mind. I wish she got more English lines, but she's fucking ADORABLE singing like she is.

>>17734637
Fuckin' oof, anon.I wish you a speedy recovery. I haven't had a surgery since I had tubes put in my ears when I was a child. I was too young to feel anxiety about it back then.

>>17734740
Keep up your reps, anon! I hate physical activity, so extra respect.

>>17734789
>10 days ago
You got my hopes up that she was live

>>17734167
Yeah that's also true I was expecting something else since Gura and Mori are like THE duo. But honestly I don't think I really liked their King cover either.

>>17733307
What about it is amateurish to you anon? You're acting like it's self evident when it isn't

>>17734831
they desperately want to be involved in Mori's music

>>17734864
rewatch it again you whore

>>17734854
Its a beatemup, and this weekend hopefully

>>17734723
Then state it properly and not like you're peddling a rrat. "I am unhappy with how Gura wanted to sound in this song" is what you attempted to say. That even takes much less symbols to type while also being a much more clear statement.

The song is good enough to be a KING sequel. hell, Mori's "Killer Queens" line actually sold this song well to me.

>>17734868
King’s overdone, but I think they easily had the best King cover in Hololive.

>>17734925
Take your time, anon. I know how game development is. It always takes longer than you would think. Especially when the code decides to be shit.

>>17734953
ahem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T7Ql4D1UnQ

>>17734854
Tone it down newbeat. You're basically an avatarfag at this point.

>>17734980
LEFTO SAIDO

>>17734980
Blessed. Kneel, Mori. And everyone else for that matter, you too Suisei.

>>17734925
Devbeat, will you be adding chumbuds now that they have "official" models?

>>17734949
that's not what I wanted to say, and I don't think I need to change my normal style of writing just to cater to you
I said it's what other people seem to want because it looks like it's what other people seem to want

>>17735024
In other words, you're a dramapeddling shitter, got you also hiding behind "we" as your kind usually does.

>>17734971
this has been in the works for a while and was originally supposed to be an anniversary present, but paid contract work took priority until this holiday when I actually had time to work on it
>>17735014
not for the forseable future, just Mori as a boss/playable character

>>17735077
nta, but you really need to chill. Not everyone is out to get you.

>>17735077
dude seriously what's your deal

>>17735077
Chill, reap.

>>17734875
So Moris flow on the first verse feels like she tried to fit too many words into it. It doesn't really fit in with the rest and the last couple of words are spat out in a way that makes them hard to understand.
The video doesn't have subtitles on screen or in the closed captioning despite it being like 60% Japanese.

The chorus is the weakest part of it "don't bite the hand that feeds you if it's holding a knife. Still gotcha tongue tied? I guess you better give me your life"
There's 0 things that are memorable about that. It doesn't even sound good on paper. It reminds me of what the kids in my high school would write for "raps"

Anybody else has the weird sensation that they enjoy the song more without looking at the MV, or its just me?

>>17735312
I think it'd be fine if it were an opening to an actual anime. Which I'd dig, honestly. At least have a story written for it or something.

>>17735216
I'm tired of seeing posts that appear as attempts to start a drama and using shit like "people thought" or "people said" as well as making statements clearly contradicting things said on streams or in twitter. Is it that complicated?

>>17735415
which is what Mori was going for. If you watched streams, you'd know about this.

>>17735339
Do you have strong feelings about gang violence?

>>17735463
Again, your mask is slipping, "anon".

Just chill and nothing bad will happen, besides. This place is just the whims of a vocal minority, played out in MAX volume.

>>17735339
The MV seriously elevates the entire experience, but I seem to be in the minority that the song is perfectly able to stand on its own. It's another one of those cases where I'm experiencing some severe cognitive dissonance against all the anons relentlessly shitting on it because I'm just not hearing what they're hearing. The same thing happened with Getcha and Unison, so I predict people will be a lot warmer towards this song in time. About to hit 1 million, too, so it's not going away.

>>17728417
>no one fan gets special treatment
unless they're a doxxbeat that also spreads personal information of other holoEN, but it's fine since he kept the ebin reddit alive

also reminder AGAIN:
she planned her time off with the explicit intention of dodging Valentines to show just how much her fans 'don't own her'
to specifically spite the small % of people who will get annoyed by that, she'll turn her back to your love and support on that day because that's how little you matter to her in comparision to the 'haters'
she's already doing it with slashing SC readings, just proving the point further

>>17735463
listen man, I'm not going to boil down a statement I want to make to the bare minimum just to satisfy you and stop you from making an autistic outburst. I'm also not going to consult the same "how to construct a debate" chart you got from /pol/ to adhere to whatever level of intelligent discussion you demand. If you don't believe me that's fine, but I see people, especially her members, asking for clean vocals from her, and I am stating that

>>17735521
There's also the "pink woman bad" effect that idiots are peddling. If anything, this release illustrates how much /here/ affects public perception: aka. 0.111111111%

>17735584
>new IP
>retard
>coming in the thread just to respond to another thread post
Did he get lost kek?

>17735584
>new ip
>cross threading
>doxxbeat
name a more iconic trio

>>17735521
I also loved Getcha and Unison right away and eventually saw other people come around to it (Unison took me like 2 or 3 listens to "get it", it is a unique song), and I liked Q first listen and still do

>>17735521
If there's an MV to go with a song (or the other way around) I tend to put more weight on how it works with the MV rather than how it is as a standalone song, sort of like how anime OPs aren't always the best on their own but blend extremely well with the animation

>>17735650
>>17735655
necroposting alone is an offense punishable by death.

>>17735471
I watch streams, but I don't catch all of them. Also, it doesn't really change anything. It doesn't have an actual storyline to an anime, so it doesn't matter.

>>17735415
It's just kinda like an anime op sure but it's also just not the level of quality I'd expect from her ig. If it had a bit more time in the oven I think it would have been better.

>>17735584

>>17735650
>>17735655
doesn't give a (You)mind...

>>17735699
>>17735471
you guys are going too hard on this. You watch the video once and it's a very simple 3 act story

Do you think we'll get the lo-fi EP during surgery break or sooner?

>>17735521
I dunno, i feel like i came to the conclusion that the song ends too short for me but I enjoy it a lot more and I think its a banger when I dont watch the MV, feels like the animated MV is more epic and greater than the song while the song is just "good".

It didn't have the same efect was Graveyard Shift or their KING cover where i already loved them since the first listen

>>17735517
Okay, this is the first time I've been accused of being Mori, that's funny. But frankly I do not see much value in posts that are made while obviously missing facts that were said as recent as two weeks to a month because they tend to lead to more shitposting. The more clearly you state things, the less facts you miss, the more you make shitposters stand out, making them easier to report and ignore. Or just post Mori art, that also works

>>17735737
I'm aware. I love the music video. I have it playing fairly frequently and watch it a lot too. I'm just saying it'd be better with more of a story. I'm invested. I want to know more. What's the purple mist? Why do they specifically turn on Mori and Gura? What started the rivalry? I want to KNOW.

>>17734980
Based

>>17735699
Anon, there are anime OP's that have no relation to the anime itself.

there are Naruto Shippuden OP's that don't make a lick of sense

>>17735698
>necroposting
Fuck off back to proboards, you god damn fossil

>>17735888
None of what you're saying is here or there. I'm telling you what I would like to see and that I think would make it even better.

>>17735816
OH lol
from what she said its an AU where they're both like crime bosses, so I guess they fought over rivalry or territory or something like that
the purple mist is just a plot device to move to act 3

Mori must have to really bend down low to touch faces with Gura

>>17735650
>>17735655
cope fucking harder as your oshi continues to ghost you on every ocassion that could even imply that she holds a modicum of love for you fags
fucking Ayame shows more warmth for her fans and members than you cucks get

>>17735312
Not gonna lie anon, "feeling" like there's too many words and that it was hard for you to understand sounds more like a you problem than the song's.

>>17735932
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eDNaEl1-HU

>>17735816
It's schizo gas. The deadbeats and chumbies fell victim to rrats. The culprit? Well...

>>17735936
That's what bothers me. I want a full story on all this. What is the purple mist? Where did it come from? Is someone behind it all?

>>17736027
Oh my god, anon. I do not care about other animes. I don't care if every other anime intro had ten foot long futa cocks on their characters. I do not care what other anime intros have. I'm specifically telling you what I think would have made this music video better. Please curb your autism. Read my words. Understand. It isn't hard.

>>17736014
If you look at any other threads talking about the song, including this previous thread, you'll see that a lot of people felt like she was trying too hard with the first verse. I can probably get some receipts if you really want.

>>17736061
>animes

>>17736103
>relying on threads
>during "pink woman bad" season

>>17736061
stupid bitch juice in gas form
the purple lends me to aim towards Ina/ancient ones doing it
but it's funnier to blame Towa

>>17736027
Did viz seriously block Naruto ops in America?

>>17735816
I've seen theories that the purple mist is vaporized lean

>>17733088
Absolutely. She probably feels bad for them and thinks of ways to help them so they don't have to "subvert themselves to the male gaze" or whatever the fuck people like her say nowadays.

>>17736202
What's lean? Does it stand for something?

>the fistbump on the end reminds me of Nibun no ichi
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8P1nlx0EV8

>>17736202
lean would have the opposite effect

>>17736123
>filename

Protip: Miasma is generally either black or purple.

>>17736214
It's not the male gays they have to worry about

>>17736236
Thanks for reminding me about how good Build Fighters was and how fucking awful the following series kept getting

>>17736274
Ganbatte lesbeat

>>17736253
Anon, your film reps. This Connor is based.

>>17736146
Not every criticism is
>Pink woman bad
Even people talking about how they liked it say that the first verse isnt good mainly towards the end where she just kinda tries to throw a lot of words out in a short period of time and the music choice just doesn't go that well with that choice of rap style.

Honestly my biggest gripe is with how bad the chorus is both lyrically and flow wise. It doesn't go well with the rest of the song, but the first verse is also kinda weak.

>>17736236
>9 years
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTGoBVP9Q_k is still the best ending to a series since.

>>17736317
>listening to music
hololive is about cumming to anime girls retard

>>17736317
NTA but I agree. Mori has always had a problem of trying to fit too many words into a verse regardless of what the beat is actually doing. That's not a "pink woman bad" thing, that's something she's struggled with since the beginning.

>>17736359
I'll never understand why people don't just go watch hentai instead of obsessing over hololive members who give them just about as much attention as a hentai character would.

I thought she was on a break, how come she was streaming with Gura and has an upcoming stream with Lui?

>>17736422
members stream tomorrow as well, break is happening after the 10th

>>17736422
Because she’s not on a break.
She has a stream with IRyS, Bae and Mumei tonight too.

>>17736402
Some people like to have a grasp on the character they're jerking off to or even how they would sound while physically exerting themselves.

>>17736317
the song kinda lacks the punch and it clashes with the aggressive MV
if like you took out all the impact sounds from ufotable fight scenes and replaced them with slap sounds

>>17736490
Now that's a weird take, and I've seen some fucking weird takes about this song in the last 20 hours.

When is mori going to let us write the lyrics?

>>17736422
Don't believe everything you read on /vt/

>>17736555
i thinks it's mainly because they don't understand anything from Gura, and keep on defaulting to putting Mori's rap in a microscope.

>>17736385
Yeah and in some songs it works for her like in TGRIALS, it's a matter of how she chooses to do her flow. In this case I don't feel like her flow was the best
>>17736490
FINALLY! I've been looking for a way to express what exactly I feel is off about it and this is as close as I can get to really expressing it in words.

I like Mori as much as the next guy but I just don't think this is the best expression of either hers or Guras talents and I'm not sure if that's all because of DECO or something but I just feel kinda shorted by it. Hopefully the next release is better

>>17736593
Bread rap

>>17736555
>Now that's a weird take
I actually agree with him. One of the first things I noticed about Q was that it hit with all the force of a wet noodle.

mori is cool

>Music video has a scene of miasma taking over deadbeats and chumbuds.
>Thread and /ggg/ are being taken over by negativity.

Well, fault anything, but the song and MV are ACCURATE.

>>17736555
I actually like the song more when not watching the MV due to that

>>17736613
This.
While Guras solo song wasn't bad I feel like it really showcases that people struggle to mix her vocals with anyone else's, if that makes sense? I know other anons really liked King but to me it always had that kinda off feeling cuz of how Gura sounded on it.

>>17736707
It was inevitable.

>>17736605
it's funny how jpnikis slowly realise we are worse than them

>>17736707
I don't think anyone's being overly negative. Nobody likes everything. You don't have to share the same opinion but calling anons just talking about how they personally felt about the song "negative" feels wrong.

>>17736707
except both threads are negative about Mori
and so is most of the board
for understandsble reasons too, day after day she shows she belongs on /incel/ more than /vt/

>>17736644
>>17736490
I don't get the feeling that it was meant to be a 'punchy' song, regardless of what the MV portrays. But that's just my impression.

I think my only real criticism is what others have said about the first verse being too verbose. Its something she tends to do a lot. Aside from that, I quite like it overall.

cow cow cow cow cow cow cow cow cow cow cow

>>17736836
We get it, Skeleton Doomguy. You still want your medal for not liking Mori.

>>17736865
yeah? what'cha gonna do about it?

>>17736836
>/incel/
But that board doesn't exist. And now that i think about it is probably a good thing.

>>17736950
I want to drink her milk...

>>17736950
I WILL COOM TO MORI'S MILKIES

>>17737004
LOL

>>17736795
I mean, the anon was calling it amateurish, like you could dislike the way she went about the lyrics or the beat, but saying that is disrespecting Gura and Mori efforts

>>17736981
Isn't that what /qa/ was? I checked it a few times just to see what that thing even was back when it was accused of shitting this place and from the quick glance I could take before barfing it was exactly that.

>>17737077
Anon, /qa/ is dead.

>>17736704
Proof?

>>17737075
Not only that, but most people complaining about it are /here/.

Most of the opinion outside of here, including Holos, are praising it. This is nothing but bad faith arguments all over again

>watch as someone brings out a "yes-man" or the "echo chamber" argument.

League Mane-san, I've gotten enough sleep to organize my thoughts, and after a few hours of looping Q while at work, I've decided.
I think Q should take over as Kawaiiope Poster's regular unique goalhorn. I adjusted the timestamp slightly from what I posted last night so it works better as a loop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aetXqd9B8WE&t=54s
As for the hat trick, I think we should do this. I think it's perfect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MknOv94r3b4&t=62s
Thoughts?

only 2k more

>>17736317
It is a weird problem cause the song isn't exactly about much. If she had a real idea to convey I can understand some scuff. In fact that can work well with a song that has a message as it can portray a certain mindset. But the song is more a fun high octane anime op, in which case you aren't bound by much. It could just be garbled nonsense like a Lotus Juice track where the goal is more just having words that fit the beat. I don't think that is where Mori is strongest though, she's best when writing about something.

>>17736490
She should have leaned into funny lyrics which Gura would most likely have aced. The video is a back and forth but the track isn't. There's kind of a disconnect there.

>>17736981
>>17737077
incel stands for internet celebrity

>>17737226
it's less than 2k. Only 30 minutes more.

>>17736317
Anon my issue with this criticism is how shallow it is. Both of Mori's rap verses speed up dramatically in the second half where she throws out a lot of words in a short period of time. But your issue is only with the first verse. I don't even entirely disagree with the criticism, I think the more simple word choice and her enunciation results in the lyrics blurring together at the greater speed as opposed to the second verse where at the end she arguably over enunciates monstrous making it distinctly clear despite the increased tempo. However the lack of clarification results in your criticism functionally amounting to being "It's bad cause there's a lot of fast words" On face value that's just a (You) problem.
Similarly the criticism of Mori's english chorus is also shallow, basically amounting to you just thinking it's cringe. And I really have no confidence that you could explain how it doesn't fit the flow of the song.

>>17737167
the proof is in my heart <3

uuuuAHHHH

Be honest
Don't lie
How many of you have fantasized about becoming a holostar EN who raps

>>17737457
barely even a day.

I can't stop laughing becuase Q immediately crossfaded to Craving, Craving Much.

>>17737075
I'm the same anon. I do think that the chorus is amateurish because I've seen better from Mori herself. She can do better than "don't bite the hand that feeds if it has a knife" like seriously, do you really think that's a standout line looking back through her catalogue as Mori alone you can see that even at the beginning of her career as Mori with "Excuse My Rudeness" the almost chuuni chorus fit the song perfectly and still makes me grin.

In songs like Cursed Night even you can see that the chorus fits and the rap style works. In "Q" it just doesn't. I'm not sorry for pointing out that it doesn't even rhyme very well, it's meaning is kinda conveyed but in an almost childish way. It's not good.

>>17737476
Not gonna lie. Mori has made me want to give rapping a try. But I'm beyond self conscious about my singing voice. I always feel like I'm fucking it up, even when other people say it's fine.

>>17737522
We can all be wrong sometimes, anon. It's okay.

>>17737277
Yeah that's probably it more than anything, she should've leaned more into the silly angle imo. Make it chuuni, make it edgy, it's about battling eachother, make it fit the MV!I feel like she was holding back on this one

>>17737476
Not me. I would never want to be a streamer.

>>17737476
I made a playful diss rap to Mori after her birthday but deleted it forever during the enthusiasm arc because I felt it was in bad taste to release it

>>17737637
It...already is chuuni and edgy? This is what I was talking about with cognitive dissonance. The way some people are talking about it makes it seem like we're listening to different songs.

>>17737653
I would just stream dota and corner the russian audience

>>17737476
I submitted a remix to the contest but it didn't get picked.

>>17737522
NTA but it sounds to me like your argument here boils down to 'I don't like it'.

>I-It's Bad

Mori should stop doing things I personally don't like and only do things I like

>>17737739
Isn't that what every negative review of anything ever ultimately boils down to?

hooray

>>17737765
this but unironically
I mean honestly who wouldnt want that?

>>17737522
Its ok if you think that its bad, but you are giving it a lot of thought to what is supposed to be a fun song, if you didnt like dont try to make other understand just dont listen and wait until a more serious song comes along

Mori should stop not being real and in my arms

>>17737368
It's more that in the end of the first verse there's absolutely no room to breathe or anything like that, it takes maybe a second before Gura picks up again immediately, making the verse feel crowded and over extended. The second verse she picks up speed but when she goes "it's over...for you...hahaha" there's a noticable break between when her vocals end and Guras vocals start. It's most likely a problem with how it was mixed more than a problem with Mori herself, I'll give you that one.
The chorus is short and doesn't really seem to fit in, as I said earlier it feels very similar to what you'd see a high schooler write. It kinda gets the point across but not super well. It's not chuuni or edgy enough to be funny or anything like that. It just comes across as a bad one liner

>>17737765
this but unironically, as far as hololive is concerned

>>17737962
You should read the original post. It was a comment about how nobody was being overly negative to which the reply was "you cant say it's amateurish" so I gave a response as to why I felt like it was amateurish based off her previous works. Y'all don't have to read criticism if ya don't want to but critiquing something isn't the same as being negative.
I like Mori, I like most of her music. I say I think a track of hers isn't her best work and half of the thread goes nuts.

>y'know. If that circle really does bite her later, I'd think that the combination of her swearing them off, and focusing solely on music with the FT crew, would inevitably turn some people.

If they truly are douchebags, then It'll be a learning experience.

>>17737198
Just because you say "echo chamber" in a sarcastic tone of voice doesn't mean the usual suspects aren't echo chambers.

>>17738428
what circle what did i miss this time

>>17738537
He's timelooping.

>>17737476
>becoming a holostar EN
Sure.
>who raps
Fuck no. GMing for my genmates, though? Hell yeah.

>>17737778
Yes and no. Saying "I don't like Q" is a perfectly valid statement on its own and requires no further explanation but it also doesn't allow discussion. That's just your opinion and nobody can take it away from you but you can't also impose it on others unless you're a huge faggot. Saying "I don't like Q because ..." allows for discussion depending on how convincing your argument sounds though in the end it's still always personal preference.

>>17738428
>It'll be a learning experience.
She hasn't learned by now. Face it, Anon, she's never going to learn.

>>17737755
>N-numbers mean you can't think it's disappointing

>>17738428
Not everybody is out to get you, anon.

>>17737712
Calm down, this is some mild ass criticism. Don't even think anyone said it sounds outright bad just could be improved. I think he was pretty clear there saying make it MORE, and would probably benefit from being in one language so everyone can easily follow the verbal fight. The jabs just aren't that funny or memorable. "Talkin shit? You only exist to get pissed and fight" I'm not sure what my reaction to that is meant to be. Not much of a diss and not all that crazy. Which may not be as much of an issue if it didn't feel like the lyrics are being crammed in at times.

>>17738688
the mere fact that she has stopped mentioning, especially at the fact that their comments about the situation, might've actually rubbed her the wrong way, is actually proof that she IS learning. I think she knows now that simply saying that they're friends, but have their own independent opinion, would've spared her this whole endeavor.

Also, considering that she made an impassioned reply to protect them, yet they make another sweeping statement to get her into more trouble?

I think she realized this, and said, fuck it.

>>17739016
>another sweeping statement to get her into more trouble
I'm not up on my rrats.

>>17739016
>they make another sweeping statement to get her into more trouble
what when

>>17739016
wishful thinking maybe
also im not sure what youre talking about

>>17739104
>>17739114
>>17739132
literally makes it about Unicorns/idolfags. When only a part of them hate TT, it's mostly guys from here.

>>17737476
I don't have a talent for rap, only a vague one for instruments that I've only recently started trying to take advantage of by learning more than just guitar

i really have no idea who or what are you talking about now

>>17739211
God I wish that was me.

>>17739211
I too am ignorant and I like staying this way

>>17738382
Anon, words have meaning. Saying a piece of music sounds amateurish when the person who made it makes music professionally is akin to you saying it sounds like shit. And coming to a thread full of fans of that person to espouse that opinion would obviously ruffle feathers. Not mention you didn't actually explain what you meant until other anons prodded it out of you. You'd have to be retarded or disingenuous to act taken aback from that.

>>17739245
He probably just meant amateurish in the sense that it sounded like it was made by amateurs, which it sorta did.

>>17739166
It's also funny, because that guy who wanted to chase clout only cares if his "clout" is on the line, and protected the "studio being harrased". Shows you how much value they see in Mori.

Mori is cool

>>17739166
theres no proof she doesnt agree with them, her song response lines up with a statement like that, she avoiding their names can easily be damage control from holo. i dont believe she learned anything so far. again, words are cheap and Mori is not the "real" one as she made very clear.

>>17739245
>Not mention you didn't actually explain what you meant
it was pretty easy to grasp desu

God this thread is absolute dogshit.

>>17739166
>>17739354
>>17739371
god what is this even about
is it the trash taste shit again

>>17739414
Thanks for improving thread quality with your enlightened observation, you conceited cockmuncher.

personally my biggest beef with Q is a musical thing I hate more than anything, where to escalate the track instead of progressing the melody everything just gets bumped up an octave

its super lazy and jarring and takes me out of a song every time, and its in so many otherwise good songs. makes me wanna scream

>>17739457
You wanna fuckin go, cunt?

>>17739414
How so?

>>17739416
Its just some stupid assholes speculating and doomposting over shit they have no control over.

>>17739532
Anon coming in with his rapier wit
"God this thread's absolute dogshit!"
Surprised your head can make your mind fit
You brain must be massive to notice it

>>17739700
Fucking weak, go retake Sophmore English and learn some off rhymes and apply yourself

Rrat: Q killed this guy's family and that's why he's been talking about why he hates it for hours on end now

>>17739941
I belieb

I miss Calvin

How long till we reach a point where any word Mori says makes certain people here self immolate

>>17739923
Not going back to school; I'm too old, son!
Glad to see that you fold and I've won.

>>17740056
I thought we were already there

>>17740056
I feel like we've hit that point already when her likes started getting posted in the catalog

>>17740061
Fuck off Yung Skelly

Guys, I have an important question about the song.
How does a deadbeat get a swollen eye when they're made out of bone?

>>17739941
a lotta people lost family members to Q actually

>>17738428
Obviously it is gonna happen but i am more interested which side would TTbeats choose.
It would create rift between the fanbase and probably even worse than it already has.

>>17740029
I imagine Calvin Morrison to be the type of guy that regularly hits on girls but always get rejected so when someone actually shows genuine interest in him it fries a circuit in his brain causing him to run away crying like a pussy.

>>17740233
How does a skeleton move at all without any muscles and ligaments?

If you niggers have time to timeloop, then you clearly have time to do your reps.

>>17740332
Damn, he's just like me

>>17740233
How can a skeleton blush?

Wait.
There's a Gura-only edit of Q? Any links???

>>17740419
Someone should link it to mori so she can use it for a future karaoke.

>>17740392
Sure, I could go for some reps. Tried to get into a rap battle but these brittle bones wouldn't clap back. Kinda' disappointed desu, didn't even have to bring out the B material, let alone my A game.

LEFT SIDE
RIGHT SIDE

>>17740521
>desu

>>17740233
The same way shrimps can stay outside of the water and wear clothes like they're in their element.

>>17740572
What about it, fampai?

>>17740521
Anon I don't even know what an octave is, you think I'm gonna try writing raps on the fly?

>>17740639
I think it's something to do with how high or low a note is.

>>17740689
Notes are...sounds right?

>>17740521
Any advice for how not to feel like a dumbass when starting out rapping desu?

I KNEEL
I SQEUAL
MY OSHI HEADCANON ISN'T REAL.

I COPE
I MOPE
I WILL NEVER SHOWER OR USE SOAP.

I SEETHE
SHE'S RENT FREE
WITH A WOMAN, I WILL NEVER BE.

I'M A SLOB
I CAN'T GET A JOB
MY DICK LENGTH MAKES ME SOB.

I DON'T HAVE ANY WIT
MY MUSIC TASTE IS SHIT
IN A TRASH BIN, I AM MOST BEFIT.

MY SUPERCHATS AREN'T READ
I'M FUCKED IN THE HEAD
I'M A SCHIZO WHO SHITS UP EVERY /VT/ THREAD.

HER PINK HAIR I HATE
HER SUCCESS MAKES ME IRATE
HER OUTSIDE COLLABS MAKE ME DILATE.

MY VAGINA IS SANDY
WITH SOCIAL SKILLS MOST UNCANNY,
I AM... A MORI ANTI.

>>17740800
Kinda crinch, ngl.

>>17740639
Isn't that some kind of fruit?

why do both deadbeats and their antis always have to post their cringe lyrics here instead of keeping them to themselves

>>17740789
Nah, not really. Just go for it. Try to power through the cringe, confidence comes with familiarity and practice.

>>17740852
not nearly as much as that autistic """diss""" track from yesterday

>>17740926
Where should I start? I've heard some raps here and there, but never considering trying out rapping recently because I'm white as unholy fuck. Do I just rap along with songs? Write my own raps? Shill my soundcloud? What's a good starting point?

>>17740941
They made a new one that's actually better. We have to step our game up.

>>17741057
>we

>>17740990
Rapping along to songs is good practice for getting the words out quick and clean. I remember Mori recommended writing poetry before jumping straight into rap, but I don't think it matters. Start with something that has meaning to you, try and bend some words around it.

>>17741057
it was okay, I kinda wish they went harder on it rather than sticking to old rrats but what can you do

>>17740521
Fucking niggers keep on talkin' hot shit
Complaining about mixin', fixin', and makin' it fit
Sit down, shut up, it's been discussed to death
Turn your brain off, save just a bit of your breath
Less time eatin' rrats, cryin' like a god-damn brat
Do your damn reps, quit bein' so cringe
Getting real fuckin' tired of listenin' to SEAniggers winge

>>17741057
i know, that's the TTS one im talking about. it feels like every piece of OC from here that doesn't have to do with Coco is cringe.
>we have to step our game up
>we
no

>>17741192
That last line feels too forced. The rest is pretty aight.

>>17741132
that'd require Mori to make interesting new fuckups and not die on the hill of old ones
like nigga, she had a year to process it yet she's still going back to her feelings 'on debut', 'on start of this job', she has a worse ability to let go off shit than a fucking sea anemone

I kinda wanted to send a red in celebration of nabbing a better job but the hard swap back to the old policies makes me feel it's better spent grabbing DOOM Eternal, 2016 was fun

>>17741666
anon, we had a year of Mori opening up about her insecurities and her past and the best people could do was recycle the same shit that we hear on this board day after day.
It was more of a deadbeat diss track then a Mori one

>>17741763
Just save the money you would've spent on the birthday merch that's coming, or a HoloFes ticket if you haven't bought one
Or depending on how the member's stream turns out if she reads the lower ones, you can send a lower-tier supa

>>17741778
people don't give a shit about her insecurities, they just don't want Cucknor content and Hololive to become an inseparable mention connection
it already happened to Mouse's channel

>>17741853
well then it isn't really a Mori diss track is it?

>>17741828
>merch
I think I'm fine with Your Mori ones
>HoloFes
ahoy

Quick reminder to everyone that we are rapidly approach seanigger hours, if we're not already in them. Please remember there will be mountains of retardation, bait, and retarded bait. Don't bite.

>>17741936
Fuck you, i'm a deadbeat, i'll reply to all the bait I want!

>>17741898
DING! DING! DING!
majority of shitposters don't even hate Mori (or hate her strongly), they hate the fucking people she chooses to bring into her streams or the fact she'll give them priority over her fanbase
the later is just an objectively clashing trait for an 'idol', someone that's generally expected to place their relation with fanbase on a pedestal

>>17741997
Do not disobey Mori.

>>17741666
>she had a year to process it
You say that like it matters.

>>17742114
ogey

>>17740789
if you're more interested in the writing side you should practice with just poetry and focusing on capturing singular emotions and concepts before trying to weave stuff thats more complex, before you even start thinking about bringing flow into it

>>17741853
>it already happened to Mouse's channel
I really feel bad for those people who don't like that faggot but like Mousey. That guy really did number on her streams.

>>17741666
why is she so focused on the biggest whiplash and literally most important and crazy moment of her life?? i dunno man, can't figure it out

>>17742114
Feigning outrage and pointless accusations with lame attempt at sarcasm,right?

Smug sanctimonious posturing and lecture while draping in indignant impotant rage!

>>17742114
hey don't get me wrong I would rather not have any TTshit either but the only thing thats true is the first thing you said about shitposters
which leads me back to my original point, why make a diss track about deadbeats?

Mori is hanging out with people she really likes all day today. I bet it will be a really fun time in both streams and she'll be in a really good mood when she goes to sleep

>>17742522
I concur.

>>17742522
can't wait to see Mori thinking how fun the game could be with her and the TT trio while talking how bad she is at games again

>>17742675
where's my mori anti bingo card again...

>>17742753
you should get a bingo card for her excuses not to do shit for deadbeats, you'd have more hits by now

>>17742838
that's another one, I'm almost at bingo!

>>17742855
make sure to cross out all the missed valentines streams, sure you gonna get an easy 5 in a row that way

>>17742916
>mentions valentines day
bingo!
thanks man, good playing with you

>>17742987
it's kinda sad you made having a shitty and uncaring oshi as a point of pride and fun for yourself
it's really like that cutting off your nose to spite your face bit

>>17743054
anon... your reading comprehension reps...

>>17742522
I demand at least one singular joke about a deadbeat when they're cracking the ribs

>>17742987
The really funny thing is that they think they deserve a medal for nor liking Mori, as well as a heroes memorial on /vt//

>>17743125
I think this is exactly the thing: they want validation for the "brave" decision they're doing

>>17743098
>bring up shit that keeps happening with Mori!
>hahaha, you're just repeating yourself!
>the shit happens again
>hahaha, she's so based, she shown up all those guys
that's sad man, just sad
she could compromise a little bit, show you some love, actually lean into the idol shit again - there was a huge period when she did and shit was great

and then she just dropped the fucking ball out of nowhere, her meds ran out or something and now you're here

I think it's neat that Mori's chuuni yakuza getup still has her heels, because she's stated in the past that they're an intentional flex. It takes a professional to swing a blade in heels.

>>17743269
No one cares.

>>17743307
people who cared for having a good oshi, deserving of support and love, did
now you're just left with people playing menhera savior or those that want to see that evil idol-culture get shit on by your weekly picking of twitchniggers (though most of them would probably still be more graceful than Mori's drunken ranting)

>>17743446
Go back to that Honoka pillow and cry.

>>17743446
look at all this love and support

>>17743515
you won't even have shit to cry into once Mori tells you to throw out her birthday daki since she doesn't want that creepy shit to define her anymore

>>17735888
>there are Naruto Shippuden OP's that don't make a lick of sense
Finally a relevant time to post this OP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu12tTrkJ-g

>>17743269
ok buddy now list something she did that is actually bad and not a perceived slight based on mental illness

>>17743872
Don't bother he's become addicted on acting offended.

>>17743577
Anon, what is it? Is it that we're not really a hardcore fanbase or is it that we're idiots in dire need of 'enlightenment'? Because any incarnation is fine with me, as someone who was not interested, and just invested for the music.

>>17743972
you (and her) by extension should move to /mu/ then
this isn't a music board

>>17744101
lets ban suisei from vt

>>17744117
I guess AZKi has to go too then...

>>17744101
Sora... AZKi...

>this guy was probably the Chikafag that I saw fighting with a mus fan all these years ago.

>Literally got into a scuffle because his failure of a gen killed LL

>>17744117
>>17744135
>>17744147
please don't mention those that actually like their fanbase and are willing to compromise on their behalf in the same thread, thanks

I don't know what's going on but some of you probably need to chill and stop posting for a while.

>>17744318
>and are willing to compromise on their behalf
honestly dont know how people can purport to care about someone then type shit like this

>>17744404
They're still taking the bait. We all know it's never changing its stance. So why bother? I can speedbuild something while this guy seethes.

>>17744505
>It's not fast if it's not the Neo Zeong in an hour

>>17744505
of course I am aware it's bait, but much like my oshi, i love posting into the void

it's kind of cathartic to write down your thoughts on shit like this and put them in order, for me anyway, I get why so many people are tired of it. the important part is to just make sure you don't acknowledge the other person as human or consider their opinion in any way, which would be like trying to get into a serious argument with videogame AI.

Chumbud here, like Q, like calli. Bonebros cool

Post more Mori to infuriate him even more

>>17744728

>>17744809
I somewhat understood the assignment

Goddammit, that package still hasn't arrived. Imma put more weapons into this thing.

Also, are you guys still going through with the shrines?

Deadbeats are my oshi.

>>17744969
Gross.

>>17744809

>>17744957
I don't have enough stuff for a good shrine, unfortunately
However when my omocat stuff shows up and the new set of birthday goods in released I'll have plenty

>>17744957
>shrines?
Not my jam, so no.

>>17744957
Sure why not, I didn't have a twitter last year so it should be fun

>>17745046
Bishopbeat?

>>17744957
she's not bothering with Valentines, I don't bother either
it's a give/take thing and she's been hella bent on taking with very little giving recently so I'll chill off

>>17745089
I dunno man I just think shrines are only good as shitposts. Making one for someone I genuinely admire just feels weird.

>>17745119
Cloak your venom, anon

>>17745203
I didn't even say anything mean, man, calm down

>>17745159
I’d agree if she wasn’t someone who would appreciate the shitpost.

>>17744997
fuck you, love me

>>17745119
>His love is not unconditional
Maybe you should realize what you are feeling right now.

While I'm putting up mine, please do know that I am not looking at her romantically. I am doing my oath that I started last year. It is a celebration of thanks to her.

Mori attacking her fans in the Q mv was on point

Why is global saying Mori has a POV for the collab? I don't see a frame up.

>>17745327
Agreed.

I really want Mori to just beat the shit out of me, I deserve it.

>>17745321
eh, just don't have a thing for unrequited
I can treat her as a bro/pseudo friend/just another music artist but I think I'm past adoration knowing how she feels about everything

>>17745352
It was literally one guy.