/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Its more of a western thing since we don't have the idol culture over here.

Because the west has deadcucks.

>>17699071
La+ either is a lesbian or is larping as one, so IDK if that is all female fans. Like she told her chat she got a ransomware attack once on her computer because she was jerking off to lesbian porn and she also told her chat she thought she was having hot teen cybersex with a girl but it turned out it was an adult japanese man pedophiling her

>>17699071
Cuckolding is an American thing

>>17699460
>she thought she was having hot teen cybersex with a girl but it turned out it was an adult japanese man pedophiling her
that happened to me too, except it was some fat english fuck not a japanese dude

>>17699663
Is that why you hate british "people" gura?

>>17699166
We do though.

>>17699071
feminism too stronk, can't be possessive, it's toxic masculinity ;(

>>17699460
Stream?

>>17699071
Well, the other option is that your vtuber is a bitch and whore(men can be that too). Do you want that?

>>17699779
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW8ID7zuEEc

> Even female fans and Holos themselves feel this way. Why is it only male fans that are shamed then?

>>17699166
Idol culture is everywhere since the by gone era anonchama..

> Cuckolding is an American thing

>>17699862
I dunno, at the end when she says she was visiting a yuri site, it kind of seemed like an afterthought.
I bet she was looking at uncensored cock

>>17699460
I wouldn't tell that to spider man if I was you

>>17699460
>La+ either is a lesbian or is larping as one, so IDK if that is all female fans
One of the common misunderstanding. Surprisingly (or not), not all unicorns are unicorns because they think of their idols as their BF / GF or want their idols for themselves (some do, though).

>>17699703
no we don't

>>17700079
I mean she masturbated to lesbian porn anon
I don't know what to tell you if you don't think she's attracted to women...

>>17700007
what? Because spiderman got molested in the comic books?
>>17700005
hence the larping part.
>>17700079
La+ specifically has said though she was looking at lesbian porn on stream

>>17699663
Please be in London.

>>17700227
fucking Cumbria

>>17700227
>>17700274
unless you meant me then I am even further north

>>17699703
no we dont

>>17699460
>>17699779
>yuri
>lesbian porn

>>17700469
She said she was on a porn site and was watching yuri. What else would it be?

>>17699071
the more women a guy fucks the more attractive he is to women, so him fucking around normally isn't a bad thing for most women.

>>17700834
it's not exactly how it is. The more women that are interested in a man, the more other women will be interested. Even if he refused sex from all of them.

>>17699166
haha yeah...
https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/how-boyfriend-hurts-female-streamers-the-curious-case-pokimane-nrg-lulu
https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/twitch-streamer-explains-why-getting-a-boyfriend-would-make-her-lose-viewers-1593235/

>>17700700
She said that those types of scams aren't limited to porn sites, and she got it on a yuri site implying that she got it on a non-porn website.

>>17699071
I think it's retarded and ass backwards no matter who tries to peddle it as "muh culture". I just choose to ignore those chuubas and watch Nijis.

>>17700925
that's a nothingburger though

>>17699071
>Why is it only male fans that are shamed then?
Male fans aren't shamed, only incels are.

>>17700927
>>>>>>implying
you are a retard

>>17699071
didn't La+ say that one of her favorite vtubers is Ange? how do you unicorn for Ange?

>>17700185
I'm saying she isn't pretending to be lesbian, she likes that spider cock

>>17701077

...aren't idols incels because fans won't let them have sex?

>>17701309
I think shes talking about idol like vtubers also despite being desperate ange has massive virgin energy

>>17701402
You have a point.....

The clip link? If its OtakMori, dont.

>>17701309
You can enjoy different people for different reasons.

>>17700919
I hope this explains why Luxiem was so hyped up by all the hens in NijiEN that were creaming their pants over them on twitter. It is unironically a form of promotion and it works.

>>17702888
Probably
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4T11bzMin0

>>17701402
i would want my oshi to have sex with another man?

>>17703229
whos your oshi? I can help you out

Do zoom zooms really not remember the Disney Channel idol era?

>>17703229
deadbeats...

>>17700177
Everybody likes lesbian porn.

>>17703846
absolute cope - she wants to fuck your sister not you anon

>>17704593
cope

>>17699071
Then why is she a kenzoku?

>>17699071
Burgers and their cuck mentality.

>>17703205
Jesas can you really not tell that she's mocking you.

>>17699071
Western colonial mentality.
They want to "save Japan from muh toxic masculinity".

>>17704686
she's speaking from experience anon

>>17700132
>>17700381
We do now.

>>17699460
She had a BF in the past, so no.

>>17700079
I was going to agree with you and bring up Kanata being a 3D idolfag but then I remembered how much of a lesbian in denial she is.

Based
Cucks will seethe and cope

>>17699071
Because Cuckery is common in the west that why cuckbeats exists.

You guys still falling for this shit?
Its just an act.

vtuber fans are truly the easiest marks in existence

>>17699071
Is this not the same girl who has a crush on Spider-Man’s actor?

>>17707082
>iketog
fuck off newfag

>>17699071
>Hardcore Kenzoku
>Crushes on men on stream
>Said she would make an exception for Hikakin
Anon, she's not a hardcore unicorn, not Rushia tier and definitely not "I will anti males and male affiliates" tier. This is a nothingburger

>>17699071
What? I love Yamada now

Can't wait until the new rrat is Laplus being a lesbian because of sentences taken out of context. Sasuga /vt/.

>>17703205
I am so confused as to how many times this board is going to miss a joke
Is this what happens in the average Hololive thread? Is that why some streams are so boring, because the fanbase can't tell when a joke is being made?

>>17704686
Kenzoku is a bizzaro fanbase.
Most of the unicorn problem come from femzokus that wants Towa's banana. And they love to badmouth Towa collab partners on twitter, especially if its female to a point Towa had to tell "collab beggars" to fuck off. Towa is also the perfect CR fujo fanbase self-insert, that simply accelerates the problem when they had to compete with popular holomem shipfaggotry like KanaTowa, to a point they had menhera breakdowns on twitter (and comes back 2 weeks after with an akasupa).
I have nothing against them but it's a legit proof, "Unicorn" or purityfagging is not exclusive to male audience.

>reorder images to make it seem as if she knew what a unicorn was
>leave out she's talking about NGO before the comment of seeing a male's shadow flicker on stream
>leave out that the yakkai otaku of Yamada as a gachikoi is for her oshi being in a relationship witch someone like in NGO
Unicorns are so pathetic to strip all context to justify their insanity. Yamada isn't a unicorn

>she's not a unicorn she just doesn't like seeing men on her oshis stream
okay schizos whatever you say

>>17711537
Female fans are far more crazy than males. The fans that watch Luxiem and NijiEN proves this. Those chats are a repeat of the great flood every time they stream.

>Doesn’t know what Unicorn means
>Probably talking about real-life idol not a streamer of any kind
>Says she would get hurt if she gets married or something
>Probably wouldn’t shit up any kind of message board if it happens, but just beat some meat like Kanata
But eh. Shitposters will take that as a sign that what they are doing is ok. None of you are unicorns anyway, because to feel betrayed by your oshi, you need an oshi to begin with.

>>17712257
she is gatchikoi not a unicorn, unicorns get mad if a male is even mentioned in a game or video

i mean none of this is news for anyone who actually watches her, she had gushed about her live for idols since week 1, talked about her ideal woman and her stance on collabs

>>17712595
love for idols*

>>17711537
What the fuck, are you telling me there's Mondo fags who self insert as Towa or something? That guy is so gay

>>17712506
>beat some meat like Kanata
what?

>>17712716
newfag

>>17699166
There is most certainly an idol culture. It's ingrained the psyche, but there's a colossal shadow cast by the sexual revolution which demands that women are free to be degenerate as they wish with no consequences and any man who doesn't celebrate that is evil. But only normalfags care about that, so a bunch of internet autists are immune to that social shamming and will remain unicorns.

>>17712774
Fine, I did archive reps and found it.
It's not like I can follow everything that holos do anon.

>>17712257
She has no problem with men on a stream. She has a problem with a male's shadow appearing for a moment on stream, like the hand or what happens in NGO specifically as that was what she was referencing. That's also specifically for who she gachikois. And the most she said is it hurts. The reasoning for her phrasing wasn't about interacting with men, it's about having a boyfriend and seeing evidence of that on stream. La+ was a nijifag, it doesn't even make sense for her to be a unicorn. But she's always had a consistent stance about boyfriends.

>>17700079
I agree but La+ is a lesbian

>>17699071
Seeing ENfags BTFO yet again by the fact that the Holos themselves side with Unicorns over the normalfags has been highly entertaining.

>>17711537
>CR fujo
What does the CR stands for?

>>17712953
She isnt gachikoi for the nijis. Just because you like a streamer it doesnt mean you love them or are they your oshi. Her favorite females are seiso and idols from idolmaster/love live.

Her not wanting to collab with males makes her position pretty clear since she is reflecting what she is ok with as a (gatchikoi) listener.

>>17713119
>side with Unicorns
>Doesn’t know the word unicorn
???

Cucks are mad ahahahahahaha

>>17712595
The term unicorn lost all its meaning since the mori incident, now every person who shows even a hint of negativity towards ANY male interaction is dubbed a unicorn or an incel

>>17712676
It was kind of shocking to see Luca's ring fit streams. It was at least twice as bad as anything the girls got. Fujos are crazy.

>>17699071
>Why is it only male fans that are shamed then?

Because the same reason they are shamed for a bajillion of things that women aren't.

>>17713604
vt was already a newfag factory but mori constantly making /here/ references and the recent boom of NSO has made the problem exponentially worse

>>17713721
I'm not talking about that, I need that anon to clarify on CR gachi, i know they exist but I didn't know they existed within Kenzoku
on the other hand, those streams are basically sexual harassment, not even Nijis whos RFA stream got put on Porn Hub had such comments.

>>17699166
"Idol culture" existed in the west throughout the 20th century till the early 2000s. It's just that asians never grew out of it

>>17713119
You don't know what a unicorn is.

reminder that "gachikoi" literally means being "really in love"
if you are "really in love" with your oshi and don't have a problem with her flirting/collabing with a man you are a cuck
simple as

>>17713630
Unicorn hasn't lost its meaning.

>>17713125
Crazy Racoon. It's an APEX professional org (think something like Luminousity Gaming) https://liquipedia.net/apexlegends/Crazy_Raccoon

A lot of Japanese female watch Apex pros and male streamers, and they are pretty crazy. Topping it off, they also think TSM_Hal is cute. Some of them are even gachi to overseas pros.

>>17713852
They exist. In fact, during the first contact of Towa with CR a lot of these female gachi dislike her, tweeting her "gutter" voice and because she's getting too close with Selly. But after some time, they slowly turned into a fan, and into a Kenzoku because of how indifferent Towa treats everybody in APEX collab, where she has this neutral stance in joking around with CR members without being too flirty. Past this point however, because of this high intake of CR sisters into Tokoyami Family, you regularly get the other holomem purists that is long time kenzoku feeling uncomfortable with these new APEX fujos come pouring in. Making Towa their perfect self-insert to fantasize themselves being in a relationship with CR streamers. I can't make this shit up.

>>17699071
fuck i love this chuuni gachikoi

>>17714979
>A lot of Japanese female watch Apex pros and male streamers, and they are pretty crazy. Topping it off, they also think TSM_Hal is cute. Some of them are even gachi to overseas pros.
I fucking love Japan so much it's unreal
>tweeting her "gutter" voice
poor Tower can't catch a break kek

>>17700919
Correct.

>>17713482
>>17714126
ENfags use it to refer to anyone who doesn't like Connor so at this point it doesn't really matter what the original meaning was since normalfags attempted to weaponize the term and make it synonymous with twitter tranny lingo like incel.

>>17699071
Gotta love how even when a Holo says stuff like this there's some normies that go "idol culture needs to end" in the comments, they know what they are selling is what helped hololive become popular, it's not going to leave and what a shocker some of the girls even like it

>>17699486
Ding ding ding the right answer

>>17699703
Maybe some people do, like it seems to be in (you)r case. I personally don't like it, but it's respectable. For me it's cool to have male and female Collabs from time to time. My Oshi is Kiara and I would really like to see an homo invited to holotalk, for example

>>17699071
No clue. That bit reflects pretty badly on her, even if it's literally just a milder version of what way too many adult nips feel.

>>17699071
That's quite a statement from someone taking a break on Valentine's Day.

>>17713630
>since the mori incident
try the birth of holoEN

>>17717235
t. virgin

> thread about holo
> niji shills appearing out of nowhere to shit on something
every fucking time

>>17699071
you know she was just doing an impression of what she thinks her fans are like right? making the fans think "she's just like me" is streamer 101

Anyone old enough to be on livejournal or lurk /cgl/ back in the day before western women had to front about being 'sex positive' knows how utterly insane female fans are.

Male fans are creepy and might stalk you or act out violently before fizzling out. Female fans will conspire to irreversibly ruin your life so they can have you to themselves only to discard you once they realize the broken husk they've created is no longer appealing.

>>17699071
BASED

>>17722694
i never had a livejournal but ljdrama was a fucking trip man

>idolfags = unicorns
If you hate unicorns at least just say unicorns. If you are a unicorn don't hide behind the words "idol culture"

I am sick of you fags using our name for a way we aren't part of. Anti-unicorns just want hololive to fail because they don't like it and unicorns are mentally ill subhumans but at least they don't wish for hololives death every day.

>>17725489
idolfags and unicorns have such a big overlap it's basically irrelevant

fandeads are often pretty mental. Now consider that 20% of Rushia's fanbase is female. Are they the sane part? I don't know honestly, just food for thought.

>>17714979
Sellygachis make me laugh considering he ignores/shits on their existance unless they're smoking hot women who picked up vaping due to him

>>17725550
A lot of people who call themselves "idolfags" are just schizo retards that don't actually like the aspect of idoldom, they just cling to an idea that fell out of fashion more than a generation ago.

>>17714979
>Making Towa their perfect self-insert to fantasize themselves being in a relationship with CR streamers. I can't make this shit up.
The F*ck?

>>17725650
that old idea is The Idol is the one that should be respected and followed
if you embrace the new age of whore "idols" who can't even be bothered to even try then you should kill yourself

>>17699071
>Why is it only male fans that are shamed then?
Because western men have been emasculated to the point where even in fantasy and fiction they lack the balls to claim a woman as theirs and demand her to be faithful.

>>17725786
No, I hate HoloEN. I just wish people would stop attacking things they don't understand and using labels they don't understand.

I'm going to impregnate Towapi while Laplas watches

>>17699071
>>17699166
>>17699460
do you also believe that Korone is a dog? It's called pandering ya retards.

>>17699703
The West has an interesting form of iidol culture where vtubers move to twitch because it allegedly doesn't have it but still bitch, whine, and blame it for everything

>>17727463
>he lacks the critical information

reminder that the west doesnt have idol culture
we have celebrity culture where the entire world must know X did Y on day Z regardless of how important it is

(they) would sell magazines of taylor swift shitting in a mcdonalds if they had pictures of it

>>17725786
Ill respect the traditional idols.
The e-girl brand fake GFE trash that Hololive sells can eat a dick.

>>17699460
Why it's always lesbian or het with your guys, bissexual people exist too.

>>17730086
first of all, there are no bisexual men, only faggots who should kill themselves. Second, it is lesbian or normal. Normal girls like cock and would make out with a girl in a threesome. If they don't like cock they are a dyke. simple as

>>17727959
This is... actually a really good point and explains a lot of the drama ENtubers seem to get into.

>>17727786
Wtf doxxed.

>>17730242
Yep, if you ever see drama like that it's probably from the UK, US, or Canada. They all have similar celebrity cultures.

the sooner we destroy de idol culture the better, we're making good progress, mori and TT are important pieces as they hate the culture

>>17703846
desu I prefer solo porn than lesbian. Because in lesbian porn they cover too much of each other's body and everything they do they do it so slowly, so gently and there is no excitement since most of the time these "lesbian" bitches aren't even real lesbians.
Real lesbians in porn usually look like dykes but it's an impressive sight when they eat pussy. Lots of things can be learned from watching a dyke eating pussy.

I hope idol culture makes a big comeback in the west one day. People (women) who complain about "idol culture" just wants to whore around without consequence

>>17730242
there is no such thing as 'pretend' and all fiction should be based in our shitty reality
EVERYTHING must be REAL or REALISTIC
AND EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW IT

its why console tards keep screaming their heads off about graphics quality not being realistic enough

constant papparazi media exposure selling low tier magazine bait and MTV style constant celebrity news bait for decades has stunted >us from being able to have imaginary worlds
and those few imaginary worlds that ARE mainstream need to have their own 'rules' be similar to our own
which is why superheros are so popular, but nobody is making the next lord of the rings or any isekai since the avatar movie (the shitty blue one not the anime)

even sci fi where you can LITERALLY make up bullshit is becoming this stupid shit flinging argument about whats more realistic, warp drive or light drive
and which one is more realistic and likely to happen in our reality star trek or star wars

idol culture is THE antithesis of western media because it quote "requires" you to distance the actor from the character they play and shame those who try to dox information about them

have you stopped to think why we use the tern 'roommate' on /vt/ to refer to the person behind the vtuber but literally no other group outside anime culture in the west uses a similar term?

now if you'll excuse me i need to go autistically scream about how minecraft graphics suck ass on /v/ for a live service game in 2022

>>17699071
a holo being a schizo does not make it okay.

>>17717235
Kiara said she only liked female idols and her fans told her she needed to collab with males and idol culture was sick for making her question it.

>>17712804
Jesus christ, your meds are by your bedside table

In all seriousness, there is no idol culture in the west and that's a great thing in my opinion. The celebrity culture allows these people to be flawed, but the one really shitty tradeoff is that these people are covered round the clock, breeding a lot of really dumb drama.

This sub replicates the woes of celebrity drama because we're all western.

>>17732208
What a wild retelling of events that is. She asked if her community would be cool with it because she understands the unicorn thing, and they said that it's fine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYias-g_wgA

>>17714979
Towa's fans are something else

>>17731940
the fuck are you talking about? Idols don't play characters and aren't anonymous, they are just young women focusing on a career like singing, and their personal life is absolutely under scrutiny.

>>17714087
The difference is that in the west it was marketed towards young girls as role models for them to look up to. In Japan it's main focus is for men to jackoff too.

reminder that Japanese idols feel shame pic related, while western whores can't even barely say coherent sm"sorry" when they fuck up
this is the main cultural difference

>>17733879
in Japan it's both
AKB or any major idol group has as much as female as male fans

>>17699071
So maybe she was one of the antis who were harassing Towa over hearing a male voice once? I mean, makes you think...

>>17734077
wow

>>17727506
And this is why she went from 8k viewers to 800

>>17730168
go outside i'm begging you

>>17734164
She stayed watching Towa so I doubt it.

Any of Laplus' unicorns are probably too jealous of Tom Holland right now. Even if she never collabs with a male she isn't exactly catering to unicorns either, that's what Lamy and Rushia do.