/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://youtubeliveen.soraweb.net/ex/バーチャルYouTuber
>https://mix.live-ranking.com/?keyword=バーチャルYouTuber

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>17666639
>>17666639
>>17666639
Bringing this over because it's dead hours

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>56,541: Marine (Hololive)
>39,127: Rushia (Hololive)
>36,861: Aqua (Hololive)
>34,287: Pekora (Hololive)
>27,411: Kanata (Hololive)
>25,127: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>20,799: Subaru (Hololive)
>18,233: Miko (Hololive)
>17,619: Hal (merise)
>17,502: Korone (Hololive)
>16,164: Laplus (Hololive)
>14,373: Fubuki (Hololive)
>13,090: Baelz (Hololive)
>12,187: Okayu (Hololive)
>11,769: Hoshikawa (Nijisanji)
>11,279: Botan (Hololive)
>10,840: Iroha (Hololive)
>10,127: Okayu (Hololive)

>>17667583
lmao after seeing the Ame champion with 0 dmg this is a real treat

Since it's dead hour, play this SOVL piece in the background of whatever you do now
https://youtu.be/AriKf8qB2Tk

>>17668362
Timestamp for the last match (After initial looting where nothing really happens)
https://youtu.be/XHhe9H7PAA8?t=16121

reminder

>>17668279
Are they peddling any merch? If they're not that's their first problem.

>>17668574
watched it life, was a blast to see her pull trough
>>17668468
i remember Chocos singing being better than this... is my memory messing with me? no wonder she won against Noel

>>17668726
Yes, its more for yuros coming back from work who couldn't catch it Live. Only this match and the first one in this VOD are really 'worth' your time if you're looking to maximize time to entertainment.

Burgers are slowly waking up, so let me try this thing.
Kiara has 7,4 likes on her stream with 5,7k peak. Marine had 56k peak with 19k likes. So Marine has 2,5x more likes with 56k bigger peak...
Kiara has at least 20k viewers right now? Did I understand the logic right?

>>17669080
theres no logic in youtubes ccv, im afraid

>>17669080
please stop encouraging them for the love of god

>>17669159
They are gonna target some JP members CCV during the night anyway so I might as well try if using Kiara as an example makes them see through the cope

>>17669080
Anon...
That isn't even remotely how the culling even works.
Here's something more in line though. Go back and take a look at the peaks for ALL of Kiara's MC streams.
5701 (Today, Culling ??? amount)
4672 (Jan 7, in the midst of FULL CULLING)

2021 NONCCVID numbers after this
7533 (2 months ago)
7212 (Sportsfes practice)
11k (Elytra Hunting with Mori)
8k (Nene Collab)
8.9k (Oct 11th)

She should be reaching at least 7k if things were normal, but they are not.
By my estimation, she's missing at least 30% of her viewers right now.

* FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *
>NOTE
decided to lower the standard to 5k as 10k for EN while they are being culled is unfair

Here it goes
>13,090: Baelz (Hololive)
>9,447: Amelia (Hololive)
>8,576: Mumei (Hololive)
>8,460: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>7,825: Vox (Nijisanji)
>7,613: Luca (Nijisanji)
>5,947: Mumei (Hololive)

>>17669632
this is actually so fucking sad holy shit i honestly feel bad

>>17669711
>30 talents vs 11 for HololiveEN
>50+ active talents vs 15 for NijisanjiEN
>Heavier culling(en) vs minimal culling(JP)
>Youtube focused (JP audience) vs Twitch/YT split (EN)
Pick your reasoning/context/cope or whatever you call it.

>>17669632
ID tally when?

>>17669632

So both Vox and Mysta overlap really kills their chances at getting 10k huh. Imagine how things will be when more males debut and they decide to stream at the same timeslot too

>>17669632
Don't!!!

Since it's entering dead hours, lets talk a little about Irodori post, Bushiroad's own little vtuber company
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6Khxbj43dAklmO59ugG1oQ/
https://youtu.be/K9JtoER5M04
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIfE0PK93mI
https://youtu.be/ANtTsFNyvEU

As a numberfag, they are honestly exasperating to follow. They do practically none of the little tips and best practices that we've identified and has become more or less standard amongst holo, niji, and the other big companies. Not a single one of their individual accounts mention anything about being part of a company. You have to go to their about page and read through it in order to get that information, and even then it just links to their official website and not their company youtube account.

On top of which, not a single one of them mention anything about the other girls in the company. Their featured channels page is a fucking blank page. Seriously, they don't make an effort to box push at all, and it's in fact very easy to come away with the impression that they are all indies not affiliated with a company at all.

So here's something to pass the time, say you've been appointed as the new manager of Irodori post. What would you do to help make them incline?

>>17669632
kys

>>17669632
So Luxiem, who is largely unculled, couldn't medal against the severely handicapped and culled Holos? Not a good sign Luxiembros!!

>>17670093

>>17670090
dunno anon, seems to me that you already figured it out, just copy holo/niji lel

>>17670114
>Luxiembros
>bros
There are no "bros" who watch Luxiem.

>>17670266
The meta is the meta for a reason.
>>17669482
~30%....
I wonder how that tracks with the other Myth and Council members...

>>17661182
I'm pretty sure she will become sub 2k after a while if she graduated from hololive
>>17664794
Pekora ask people to sub to her in some of her streams so you're wrong

>>17669632
It was a fucking meme. Please dont make it a thing you collosal faggots

>>17669908

* FINAL ID TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

Here it goes

>1,894: Moona (Hololive)
>135: Nara (Nijisanji)
>87: Taka (Nijisanji)
>58: Hyona (Nijisanji)

Note: Standard to join the tally is 50 viewers!

>>17670114
>Luxiembros
>bros

>>17670514
jesus christ ill never complain about the chuuba i like getting 5k viewers ever again

>>17668285
So pekora isn't reclining after all, she just has bad choice of games

>>17670514
Lets go Moona!

>>17670585
It wasn't obvious?

>>17670585
that's what every anon with a brain has been trying to explain for a while, she really needs to play minecraft again

>>17670568
It's why we get people coming in saying 5k CCV is a lot, since it already puts you among the guided elite of the streaming world.

>>17668265
I've read this manga before. Can't remember what it was tho

>>17670585
>he took the schizo narrative seriously

>>17670514

anon, you got all the peaks wrong...

Moona: 2,175
Nara: 265
Taka: 93
Hyona: 75

not that it would change the top order anyway but kek

>>17670846
>people
kek dont talk about yourself in third person, midgetfucker

>>17671008
lets go Moona!

>>17670585
34k is too low for camera stream, I expected 50k

>>17669632
this really does feel like some paraolimpics

>>17670585
I don't know about that. Pekora gimmick streams like that used to be guarenteed 70k at the least.

>>17671305
Ogey

>>17665800
it's either Fubuki or Marine for me but I'm biased so I think Fubuki is more valuable considering how important and the amount of work she has done for Hololive as a whole. hell, she even shills holostar since she is that much of a team player.

>>17671111

it's not anon, wtf. she got 50k opening poke cards only in the first time and all streams after that were in 30k range

>36,321 / 56,004
Usada Pekora • 4 months ago

>25,999 / 35,297
Usada Pekora • 3 months ago

24,202 / 32,007
Usada Pekora • 2 months ago

>>17671402
>arguing between fubuki and marine while ignoring the real MVP of Hololive

>>17670514
>>17671008
Moona alone mogs their entire branch?!?! Holy tism I kneel
But seriously, have some standard. iirc, an anon pointed out the viewers required to make full-time streaming viable was 300 or 400? This is InDog land so maybe it's actually lower. Can be rounded up to 500 for easier tracking too.
Fuck it. 1k. List will be all Moona

>>17671501
I mean, it's kind of hard to argue who's the MVP because it really wasn't ever 'just' one person for Hololive, and that's part of the charm.
Also man the bump schizo is out in full force spamming the catalogue.

This stream finally made it to 2M views.

>>17672014
>bump schizo
It's literally one guy spamming the board with a phone

>>17672088
>It's still gaining views to this day
I mean it's only an hour, but what the fuck.

* FINAL TW TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>2,279: Mizuki (Indie)
>607: Rumi (Indie)
>418: Padko (Square Live)
>397: Olda (Square Live)
>331: Loco Lost (Indie)
>193: Ubye (Cloud Horizon)

>>17672214
North Korea tally when?

>>17672161
I know, he does it to kill off /hlgg/ before bump limit, it's dumb and just makes the board a mess.

>>17672214
Honestly, the SC for these TW vtubers is more insane.

>>17672271
No, that's different from the bump schizo who just bumps thread at the bottom of the catalogue. this guy is creating new threads because 4chan's security is a fucking joke

>>17672088
>some of people in here says gura is culled
>no her streams can compete her earlier day's streams

Hmm...

>>17672214
Kosovo tally when?

>>17672088
Is it the first gaming stream to get 2M views?

>>17672298
Wait, it's a DIFFERENT ONE? Goddamnit this board sometimes....

>>17672396
No.
Kuzuha's eceleb stream from last year has 4m+ views, and there might be others.

>>17672088
>>17672396
I think so, in hololive anyway. Unless i'm missing something there are only 6 2M VODs for streams.
3 - Gura (debut, 1st outfit, plug&play)
2 - Coco (graduation live, graduation announcement)
1 - Chloe (debut)

>>17672396
First solo one sure. Otherwise no.

>>17671305
I would compare this stream in particular to burger eating stream. They got similar number so yeah nothing wrong here

>>17672278
This was a dumb shitpost to mock the EN tally (that took way too much time, this is a genuine tally) but on a more serious note Mizuki hit 100k subs today and got $6k which is the all-time record for a Taiwanese chuuba and more than any Holo or Niji earned today, unless there's a JP indie who made more that I missed she'll be the first ever from Taiwan to top the SC chart. The scene there is still in its infancy but there's serious potential in that market.

>>17672397
That's nothing, see this thread if you want to see actual schizoism
>>17649691

>>17672647
Noel has 3 ASMR streams over 2 million, soon to be 4

>>17672647

there's the asmr vods. noel has 3 of them at 2M (soon 4) and okayu has 1

>>17672647
>>17672783
>>17672785
Right, and i forgot about Miko's new year stream too.

>>17672783
Rushia has one as well

Just browed Hololyzer, why the fuck Pekora, Marine, Laplus and Aqua gaining so many new membership in a single stream? The new gifted function?

>>17668225
No

>>17672845
Yes. Like hundres of 5 gifted members in single stream

>>17672845
Uh, it must be. I didn't think Hololyzer would catch them but I guess I'd the message shows up in chat it counts.

>>17669632
nice, hope you keep doing it

>>17672845
Miko is the only one out of those who has it afaik, the gift subs don't have the usual pop up so Hololyzer won't have it yet. Pekora and La+ both had mengens today and Aqua had a bunch of new viewers in her Apex streams

>>17673022
Fuck no, it's retarded, and I know the realities are that the EN and JP streaming markets aren't the same. Fuck this seperate list bullshit.

>>17673042
Ah, that makes sense then.

/#/ is declining.

>>17673042
Fubuki, Miko, Watame and Laplus have it

>>17673042
Pekora had it also and I am pretty sure Laplus had it

>>17668279
>1. Comedy
>2. Coombait
>3. Competitiveness
>4. memorability
Talent only has to worry about the first three. Management has to worry about all four.

Their visuals, voices, their content, the marketing and branding all range from okay to trash.

>>17670514
Power of booba

>>17673137
>>17673142
Ah my bad, but Hololyzer has Watame at 60 new members and she got far more than that donated so it's definitely not counted. Maybe seeing other people get it psychologically encourages other greys to sign up too?

https://twitter.com/aragamioga/status/1488860550478319617
Oga's tweet got 83K likes somehow

anyone have the streamer ccv rankings for january?

>>17673521
holy BASED, I knew Oga was a numberbro

>>17673521
>20 year old Suica tweet
How the hell did he get so many likes?!

>>17673449

orange king..

>>17673639
appearently it just twigged the twitter algo, it got pushed to everyone in japan for some reason, and his followers didn't actually increase so

>>17668285
so why did Marine get such a good turnout? She's had multiple days recently with no videos or streams, in the last 3 weeks she's only uploaded 3 videos and streamed 3 times

she had multiple multi-day breaks of zero activity, isn't that meant to fuck you in terms of the algorithm?

>>17673639
The tweet was very relatable for JP bros.

>>17673639
perfectly calibrated viral tweet for a japanese audience, oga is a mastermind

>>17673800
She sucked the viewers from Laplus and Noel.

>>17672647
MiKorone x2, the privated fujoshit MariMiko as well

>>17673800
Streaming consistency has always meant jack shit to the algorithm, it's all about how high your average watch time is per viewer for each video.

>>17673800
It's simple anon, it's a Gartic Phone collab and she's the best artist

>>17673800
its actually a buff if you rarely stream and have some big stream. If you are already established streamer that is

>>17673800
>>17673901
anon there are channels who only upload one video a month which consistently get millions of views, consistentcy doesn't matter as much as having people click on your video when you release one

>>17672358
Can someone translate these esl monkey noises? Obviously older streams accumulate more views over time

>>17673800
No, the algo doesn't give a shit about breaks, that's a stupid 2view cope that never dies.
Your viewers could give a shit about breaks and if and only if they behave differently, then you might do worse, but algo wise you pick up where you left off.

>>17673901
Once again I feel bad for Pekora for streaming everyday just to chase the watch hour number. She could have been more popular if she focus on other number but nooooo

So when a New Holo gen debuts YT will soft cap the video, by requiring you to subscribe to watch it?

>>17674721
At least it would give them some more beginner subs…right?

>>17674522
Pekora streams because she is addicted to it. She has multiple times said that without streaming she has nothing to do and presence of nousagis make her not feel lonely.
I hope no one thinks she unironically streams everyday to be number 1 in the world. Its one goal of hers but nothing that changes what she does

>>17674772
And then cull it because YT think they are spams, magic.

>>17674721
but if you subscribe before watching you`re considered spam

>>17674810
>>17674831
Then I guess the only way to get around this is to pad the channel with some videos before actually doing debut stream. It will hurt the debut stream hype but can’t be too much

>>17672214
Where is Luxiem? I know they had enough viewers to rank here.

>>17674721
didn't we already go through how this thing works? Unless the holos start streaming from their phones this isn't going to do shit

>>17674721
New Holos don't have a problems getting subs.

>>17674784
The “numberfag” title will never leave her. I personally cannot talk about Pekora passion without some random schizo trying to turn it into her being a numberfag

>>17674906
those channels on the pics also had videos before, but jumping from 1k live premieres to 80k live debut will still get them blocked all the same

>>17674936
Either way, I imagine as a MCN, Cover will have 1% extra attention from Youtube..

>>17674721
>>17674772
>>17674810
>>17674831
>>17674906
>>17674936
As anon mentioned threads ago
>It only applies to mobile livestreams on channel that has under 1000 subs:
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/9228390

With "mobile livestreaming" meaning
>streaming from youtube on your phone
Does mean they won't roll this one out to non mobile too but for now it's for mobile only

>>17674970
Jesus then debut stream number are pretty much killed?

>>17675033
see >>17675011

>>17675033
It's only being used to prevent people from livestreaming protests.

>>17675047
>>17675074
Oh make sense then, then I see no need to be worried

>>17675074
I thought we figured out mid-CCVID that the main target was crypto pyramid scheme streams? It's just that YouTube's heuristics really, really suck and keep hitting everything except their intended targets. Although in fairness, if you weren't tracking CCVID beforehand the timing makes it look like censorship.

>>17674721
mcn channels should by-pass this problem but that would require competency

>>17675233
The trucker blockade on the Canadian/US border has been big news recently and there's been attempts to do a media black out on it.

>>17675342
It would require youtube actually coding exceptions competently.

It looks like every single holo song got a bump in views on the 16-17th and the 20th, and a lot of them on the 8th too. On top of that some (but not all) got an increased growth rate afterwards.

>>17673800
Marine's semi-hiatus status with limited streams until she solves her throat issue gives it a rarity buff.

>>17675845
Did something happen on the 16th and 17th?

So Q has a waiting room of 3k nearly 5 hours out. Does anybody know waiting rooms of previous songs to compare? That amount 5 hours out seems pretty high.

>>17675609
/asp/-ish question
Is it better to have a common name or a fantasy name?

>>17676179
Fantasy for better SEO

>>17676164
Think it will beat Finana's original?

>>17676354
It might even beat IRyS's Sparks of Joy.

>>17676354
El oh El

>>17676354
Thanks for the laugh, anon.

>>17676354
Finana's original is currently beating Mori's new album songs funny enough (except for one song)

>>17676354
Better question is how long will youtube's view freeze stop it from passing Finana's original?

>>17676179
uncommon name is better because of discoverability, you don't want to pick a name that gets mistaken for something else when you slap it into google

>>17676537
Aki...

>>17676594
Subaru...

>>17676517
What?

>>17676798
He is talking about the Lo-fi remix album which isn't even on her channel. Its a stupid comparison but I shouldn't expect any better from Nijiniggers.

>>17677050
Nijiniggers and disingenuous are basically synonymous.

>>17676354
Anon c'mon....

does anyone have the likes tally for yesterday

>>17677285
Likes gold?

Total minutes watched by gen for January taken from raddit

>>17676517
No way I take that bait.

>>17677936
Will any Gen ever catch up to Gen 3?

>>17676354
Obvious bait aside the better question is if going to do better than their King cover.
Basically an original song with animations vs an establish song you know many already enjoyed.

>>17678230
Only when Pekora is forced to take a break.

>>17675609
I wonder if Japan does the same thing that westerners do. I hope to see a lot of Pekoras and Korones in the next decades

>>17678533
I don't think the average Hololive fan is having many kids.

>>17677936
>gura over fbk, lamy and koyori.
>fbk over lamy
https://twitter.com/Holo_Data/status/1488338062664880130/photo/1
https://www.giken.tv/news/january22-channels
his ranking way off

>>17677936
>EN is #2 with a fairly.comfortable lead over #3
Wow, wouldn't have expected that with all the EN doomposters. Shit posters please commit neck rope.xxwxj

>>17678673
forgot pic

>>17678673
The guy on reddit adjusts for the cull and makes estimates based on engagement and viewership history to what the numbers actually would have been. He actually has a formula for it but I don't feel like digging up the post.

>>17678816
>he makes up numbers
ok

>>17678816
so imaginary numbers

>>17678816
Nobody post his fucking alchemy crystal ball trash in this thread ever again

>>17678816
Just because cull is a thing doesn't mean he can just post his estimates as if they were facts.

>>17678816
So another mentally ill burger. Great

>>17677936
fucking Council...

>>17678881
>>17678902
>>17678928
>>17678962
>>17678987
Last Samurai absolutely seething

>>17678816
Why are EN sisters like this?

The burgers are waking up, see you all again in 12 hours.

>>17679183
It's almost 6 PM in New York you fucking dumbass.

>>17678230
>Current gen
No
>Any future gen
Yes, ONLY if they're willing to hire vtubers that are not only good entertainers but that want and compete to be the best.

>>17679320
did i stutter? who do you think visits this website?

>>17678816
lol

>>17678230
Look how much they dwarf the others, and that's for the month where their second biggest member barely streamed because she takes poor care of her health.

>>17669632
EN gold so far for February

1. Gura (Hololive) - 14,594
2. Amelia (Hololive) - 16,124
3. Baelz (Hololive) - 13,090

Hololive - 3
Nijisanji - 0
Others - 0

>>17679637

others bros.. when will it be our time...

>>17679637

>>17679678
Luto graduation maybe? Hasn't she not streamed in forever?

>>17679637
JESAS
imagine if it was this easy to get gold for JP streamers

>>17669632
>8,460: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>7,825: Vox (Nijisanji)
is this the minecraft one?
not like the current ones from today are any beter
i expect vox to drop sim4 as numbers keep getting lower and has to find something to appeal to SEA fujos.

>>17679637
ID gold for february when?

>>17679868
Minecraft collab was yesterday. These numbers are Mysta's Heavy Rain and Vox's Sims 4.

>>17679943
I'll do it starting tomorrow. What should the baseline be for the end of day list for ID? 1000? 500?

>>17679943

ID gold so far for February

1. Reine (Hololive) - 1,961
2. Anya (Hololive) - 4,028
3. Moona (Hololive) - 2,175

Hololive - 3
Nijisanji - 0
Others - 0

>>17679943
Just make a Myth gold while at it. Everyone gets a gold and everyone is happy :)

Taiwananon let's see those golds

>>17680129
Go Anya Go.

>>17680129
ANYA!!!!

>>17675609
Luna is somehow less common than flare? Sounds bullshit.

>>17678816
This is why ENshart subhumans consistently get laughed at.

>>17680129
RTSbros... Our AOE II gold mogged by AnyaMumei
Not like this...

>>17681209
>>17680129
That shouldn't count, collabs should get their own collab gold.

>>17681249
Cope more moonafag.

gook numberfags

group list
Nijisanji KR 니지산지 KR
>13 Lee Roha 392 830
>18 Ban Hada 329 2,970
>26 Lee Siu 233 1,133
>27 Seffyna 219 310
>28 Yang Nari 212 1,193
>29 Min Suha 205 708
>31 Song Mia 196 405
>34 Na Sera 190 307
>36 Ryu Hari 177 471
>40 Oh Jiyu 166 409
>41 Ko Yami 155 381
>44 Lee On 153 374
>47 Ha Yun 143 697
>61 Shin Kiru 104 241
>113 Gaon 53 199

Isegye Idol 이세계 아이돌
>1 ine 5,876 12,178
>2 viichan 5,840 11,188
>3 lilpa 5,344 16,762
>4 gosegu 4,716 13,067
>5 jingburger 3,886 11,530
>6 jururu 3,912 11,324

VRECORD 브이레코드
>70 Deus 92 339
>73 Piyo 90 356
>76 Yunon 88 229
>80 Choki 82 349

Sandbox network 샌드박스 네트워크
>39 PrettyHerb 165 3,051
>46 Huz 154 8,066
>95 raengmon 70 351

Revolution Heart 레볼루션하트
>55 Gemini 120 328
>65 Ryu 103 375
>75 Onyu 103 356

Plumverse 플럼버스
>69 ChoHoya 91 250
>81 DangHaroo 78 4,884
>87 Chasha 75 177

V-LUP 브이럽
>16 Jooin Lee 337 720
>72 Yuyeon 92 1,204

Pixel Network 픽셀네트워크
>19 mange 323 3,063
>42 aduck 156 1,463

Collab 콜랩
>32 Myoya 192 466
>52 remguri 127 8,302

Smilegate Group 스마일게이트 그룹
>10 Sea story 1,157 18,896

Charon Creative 카론 크리에이티브
>12 GreatMoonAroma 436 1,344

Treasure Hunter 트레져헌터
>23 Hongja 268 6916

Novelpia 노벨피아
>24 Novelpia 254 505

Parable Entertainment 패러블 엔터테인먼트
>54 OYO 123 482

Kaywon University of Art & Design 계원예술대학교
>84 Lessy 77 222

DIA TV 다이아 티비
>98 Yacoconut 60 185

EIVE
>99 Rebi 58 108

>LOLQ 롤큐
>118 nooni 47 788

the rest are indies

>5ch people starts to discuss how to save EN


They're blaming Yagoo

>>17681591
Who won gook gold?

>>17681059
>Last Samurai denying the cull
Still doing that in spite of all the evidence huh? Your desire to be Japanese is rotting your brain.

chink numbers

>>17681716
isegye idol 31
nijisanji kr 0
others 0

>>17681831
idolfags I kneel

holoen: 3.6k
nijien: 7k

>>17681758
>EN wins if you just make up all the numbers bro!

>>17682018
Shut retard, don't reply to the schizo

>Schizos calling each other schizos

>>17682209
they are both fucking schizos, one who inflates the cull to like 1000% and the other one who denies its existence entirely

>>17681969
NijiEN always exceeds holoEN in that they actually stream. Its kinda sad how empty burgerhours really are

>>17681591
If you are a gook please tell me why Isegye can completely mogged NijiKR. They hate JP brand?

>>17681969
Not bad NijiEN, almost bigger than Gura's waiting room.

7.5k wiating for mori and gura. i tought this was going to be at guras usual hours but moved earlier proabbly to shill the song at the end.

>>17682419
most of them have more free time so it is expectes.

>>17681969
>reading supers
When are they going to learn that this is a bad thing that actively drives viewers away? If Bae just called this a regular zatsu it would have double the viewership. Fuck catering to pay pig scum.

>>17682751
she is doing it at a shit time so it is fine imo.
if they didi it on prime time or japan time then eya she would be dumb.

>>17682643
Yeah, I'm thinking Q has a shot to beat Reflect.

1. They are streaming right into it
2. Its dropping right in NA prime time
3. It will transition to JP prime time before it hits the time limit so JP's will have a chance too

Only major concern is that its on Mori's channel instead of Gura's. We will see how much of a debuff that is.

>>17682419
>empty burgerhours
You mean lamy morning stream?

>>17682855
She has pretty consistently gotten 5 to 6k for her coffee and chill streams. Putting "reading supers" in the title killed the viewership.

>>17682867
Reflect was after guras birthday so it gets boosted a lot and was on guras channel.
this one is on Moris but i feel like ENs are in a slump. Still need to wait and see.

11.5k waiting for gura and mori.

>>17682913
ah the title? yeah that scares viewers.

>>17681969
So this is what baelz gonna stream for Feb huh, coffee n chillz

1 million in 24h

>>17683035
Reflect was randomly dropped at like 6am EST though because Gura was getting anxiety over its release, haha. We will see.

who is winning the likes gold bros?

>>17683155
oh i agree
still it was during a time of EN good viewership

>>17673639
>mildly interesting thing given a one liner description that is relatable to many nips
It's a guaranteed banger

5min to recover waiting room but lets see how high she can get before getting capped randomly.

>>17683264
Maybe, cull notwithstanding. However we saw from Ochame Kinou and A New Start that song viewership is still strong.

>>17668285
Hololive 15
Nijisanji 3

No top ten sweep for hololive, they won 8 - 2 however. They had a full medal sweep. This was not a good day for Nijisanji.

>>17669632
When you've won a real gold medal you longer qualify for the baby cup. Myth is out, so is Mumei, Kronii, Bae, and IRyS. Fauna and Sana are the only ENs that qualify for the baby cup.

>>17683264
>Ochame Kinou with 4M views
>Mumei’s orisong with a million views
>EN single handedly boosted the views of JP’s Ochame Kinou
>Caligula King is back up to 500k+ views a week after a string of 300k’s, which absolutely has to do with the musical push from EN side
No idea what possesses someone to think viewership has dropped.

>>17683953
nobody in council won gold at least once?

Mumei finally passed Yuika.

>>17684201
Try reading words anon

>>17684020
Seeing the boost KING gets from Q has me very interested. Kuzuha better look out.

Gura CCV really capped around 15k

>>17684201
Actually I went back and checked, Bae and Mumei have never won a gold. They have gotten medals before though. I thought Bae got the debut gold and I didn't notice Pekora streamed the one time Mumei had a gold worthy stream.

Once again EN whores show their reclined viewership for all to see. Even a hype collab for the song release cannot save their numbers. Literally losing to Miko doing a shill stream.

>>17684873
Nijinnigger your meds pls

>>17684921
NTA, but 15K for a Mori/Gura collab is pretty sad, especially since Gura can usually get that alone

>>17684801
>Bae and Mumei have never won a gold

>>17685004
Chloe will never win a gold again. Not even her 3D debut will get the gold.

Watch that post derail the next 50 posts from the thread

>>17684773
>>17684981
is the game
gura is jsut trying random ass indie games now days becasue she wants something to play rather than going for minecraft or full zatsu.

>>17685004
Don’t you have a superchat reading to get back to, stinky orca?

>>17685004
Non-stop superchat readings killed any interest in her. That is what you get fof catering to pay pig scum.

Reminder: If you respond to bait Watame will have to destroy the colonies again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr0VWuEHT7U

>>17684981
>debuff game
>ignoring the culling as always
> 1 hour before gura NA hours
Yep take your meds nijinnige4

NijiEN will win a gold someday. Luxiem will have the 3D debut in 2024 and we know it will be a barn burner.

>>17685327
The culling will be even worse by that time

>>17685327
Yesterday was about as good a shot as any that they had. No Gura stream and Vox was streaming his main buff game. However Bae came out of nowhere with 13k and Vox's Sims 4 underperformed.

Quick fellow ENbros! We must compare the likes! It cant be that she is stuck at 15k

>>17685117
Your shark is just trying to abuse new game buff and it doesn't seem to be working. The numberfag in her doesn't know that no one cares about watching random indie games when the player herself is not good at any games she plays and makes no attempt to get better. The one time she does aka Mario kart, she doesn't stream it. The majority of the time she just claims she got better off stream but she never goes back to stream said game.
>inb4 ADHD
No. She is just afraid to show she didn't actually get as good as she claimed she did like MHR

>>17685404
Live viewer count will be hidden by then.

>>17685273
Did you guys get Gura notification? I didn't. Not for the previous stream either. I think this is a case of shadowbanned instead of Cull. Or both.

>>17685466
I meant a real deal gold, not the zako cup. Ike got 5th place once last month and was only 7k off the gold.

>>17685085
>>17685126
>>17685230
cope

Already cracked the code!
>Marine 50k with 20k likes 12 hours after stream
>Gura 15k with 11k likes LIVE
This means that Gura has at least 30k viewers right now

>>17685651
Hey it's burger hours, Gold = EN gold

>>17685722
shut the fuck up,
please shut the fuck up

>>17684873
mori debuff

>>17685466
>Vox's Sims 4 underperformed.
it was the 3rd episode.

At this point Voxx only has genshin or random ass RPG horror games that he can play on SEA hours.
>>17685560
>is just trying to abuse new game buff
that only works if its is a populargame, as she directly said. She just wants to play some games.
>She is just afraid to show she didn't actually get as good as she claimed she did like MHR
nah she just isnt good with those kind of games. She isnt good with DMC either but the chaartcers has her keep going. Guras taste in games are simple but flashy games or complaex as long as it has funny characters.
I wonder if she would try wolf metal chaos.
But she just needs a game she can interact with other with. In this case Ark or minecraft which is pretty abandoned at this moment acrossall hololive.

>>17685722
Goddamn ENfags are aching. I mean if you're this hurt by Gura's numbers find something else to do.
>>17685757
>EN gold
I will always hate who made that shit up as a joke.

any EN vtubers included in the membership gifting test?

>>17685867
Get over yourself faggot. At least the guys posting about EN gold are discussing numbers while you are just shitting up the thread.

Reminder that YWNBJ Last Samurai.

Guras likes are still going up. Most likely she has 40k at least. Maybe she will Marine. Youtube seems to have put a hard cap on her stream so that it isnt going over 15k.

>last samurai
Is it still the spic posting or do people not realize its origins being the schizo's 4th dimensional projection in wanting to be a burger

>>17686060
>EN gold are discussing numbers

>>17686194
You will never be a hamburger.

>>17686221
When was the last time that bitch got 15k. Stay in your lane last samurai.

/#/ reclining harder than nijien girls

>>17686339
burgers hours = midget numbers

>Chumbuds leaving likes but not watching because its a collab
>Bonus debuff because of Mori
>Muh hard cap
ENcope list when

>>17682614
>JP brand
Not really, if you compared to how positively they treated Hololive. It seems they only hate Nijisanji for some reason.

>>17686311
Literally a week ago. When was the last time any of your EN whores got 20k?
>inb4 satandice
Go back

>>17686311
Just a week ago?

>>17686311
>pathetic attempt burgersan

>>17686408
Probably the rep from the old company that Anykara absorbed when they entered the KR marker, probably the worst misstep that they've ever made since it killed NijiKr in the crib. If there's one thing that all Asians have in common it's keeping grudges
t. Flip

I decided to look to see who is winning verse golds. 100+ is an automatic gold, the vsingers have better CCV than the streamers, the sheep only wins when no one else is playing. Itsuki wins a lot of golds since she streams every day. Uno is stronger per stream.

Mori and Gura are 1/6 of the active players rn

>>17686473
>>17686482
Last Samurai are malding right now, lmao. Gura is getting culled and stilp beating most of your nip bitches.

>>17686311
>Ninnin last 15k stream
7 days ago
Prior to this one
>Gura "almost 4M subs" top vtuber last 15k stream
6 days ago
Kek. Gura declining

>>17686473
32h ago

>>17686645
Iroha will apprieciate your compliments, calling her a competent samurai.

>>17686630
it's still beta isn't it?

>>17686150
gura likes gold secured!

>gifting subs from twitch
>Shorts like Tik tok
>No hate option like twitter
Why youtube don't have any original idea??

Post ES GOLD

gura is monumentally retarded for not titiling the stream like [PRE- MV RELEASE CELEBRATION!!] Or some shit, i don't know what she's thinking.

>>17687111
This. According to my calculations she would easily get 60k+

>>17687088
isn't it always the new guy with the red avatar? or has nimu finally topped him?

>>17687111
she doesnt give a shit since the MV is not on her channel

okay 15k CCV is pretty respectable but how many likes does it have? good chance for Likes gold today?

>>17685762
from one samurai to another pls stop embarassing our kindred
you really believe 3.7 M chuba can't get 30K on her stream?

Gura has 14k likes now

>>17687111
>>17687222
she's sabotaging her genmates and hololive at this point.

sub growth in a day gold when?

>>17687308
nah only mori, and thats good

Obvious false flagging is obvious.

>>17687277
at least use real numbers, likes to ccv prediction is so dumb

if you want to use likes to predict something use vods views.
for gura she has a ratio of 1k like = 10k vods after the first 4hrs of dequeuing.

We all agree on these right?
useless:
>CVV
EN is getting culled hard. At least 50% of their viewers are taken away. Maybe more, most likely more.
>superchat
EN viewers are less parasocial losers and dont spend that much money. More money doesnt equal more viewers or anything and that is all that matters. Superchat doesnt matter at all since with that logic Rushia would be the number one holo and nobody in /vt/ watches Rushia

what actually matters:
>subs
This is obvious. Kiara even said it herself that Gura is the number 1 VTuber in the world in official Cover channel. Cover knows it, we know it
>likes
only number that is not getting culled. JP viewers most likely like the vods more anyway so if EN chuuba has the same amount of likes as JP, we can say that the EN chuuba had more viewers. Period.
>sub growth
this is the only reliable way to show the growth of a chuuba. There is no other.

>>17687111
Real missed oppurtunity. If this was a zatsu talking about the song and what went into it the vuewership would be a lot higher and it would be the perfect funnel into the song. But for some reason Gura is hung up on this mindset that every stream needs to involve some game. Mori should at least know better and should have told her how to do this.

>>17687789

>>17687789
I actually agree with this. I have a very natural hatred for pay pigs so superchats getting so much attention never sat well with me. We shouldn't glorify mentally ill pay pig scum.

>>17687789
All numbers matter and are relevant, context matters but they still can be compared and why the fuck am I answering to a fucking schizo jfc

>>17672879
Yes

>>17687789
as an encope I agree with this

all numbers that aren't made up in some schizo's head matter
this is the numbers thread

>>17687971
Not me. SCs are a number and I want them higher. I want the chuubas to wring every paypig for what they're worth.

>>17687789
EN will never surpass JP in Superchat because JP has very large amount of unmarried High-paying Salarymen with massive disposable income. The currency is also very strong, Akas can be earned in few hours of work.

Gura already has 75% of Marines likes

>>17687111
It wouldn't fucking matter, Susan has decided half her viewers don't exist.

>>17687789
Chumpedo hands wrote this post

>>17688327
Mori is already in the top 10 all time for supers so she had already passed most of JP. There goes your theory last samurai.

>>17687789
So this is what copium overdose looks like.
>Only the metric that EN wins in matter to me

I don't know why some anon seething over the EN gold tally, does it hurt the shitposters for not having any more material or something. If the EN is culled, why put them together with the unculled? Just do a JP Gold only then there is no need for comparing the likes ratio between JP and EN.

>>17688428
Yeah but she's graduating soon.

>>17688474
No. If you have won a gold before you have to play in the big leagues. There is no regulation here, in once in forever.

>>17688474
JP is being culled too though? I think it only makes sense to make an EN list if they're removed from the overall tally

>nijien has THREE POVS for pummel party

>>17688428
chloe and iroha will boot her out in a year, she isnt moving ahead in places anymore

>>17688593
>JP is being culled too though
The only JP is being culled right now is Hachama, I can't think of anyone else.

>>17688474
Or, you know, it's fucking shitposting gone too far.
Funny, because there was an attempt for male gold prior to this that got shot down immediately.

>>17688619
>3 POV Pummel Party
Why is NijiEN like this?
Don't answer the question, I already know.

>>17687789

>>17688795
The mechanism behind the culling is still present, and users are probably still flagged, but there hasn't been anything that could result in mass amounts of viewers getting flagged to hell and back.

Gura's views have surpassed 100k
Under 90 minutes
Shouldn't be achievable with 15k ccv

Q is from Queen btw

>>17688841
I'd rather take the EN tally over a bunch of schizos time looping. Just separate them like Twitch numbers

>>17689365
>I'd rather take the EN tally

>>17689365
you are going to take both

https://twitter.com/GoodSmile_US/status/1489074190527389700

Gura has almost the same number of likes as Pekora. This just confirms that she has over 30k.
There is a hard cap on the stream 100%

>>17689632
SHUT THE FUCK UP PLEASE
STOP MAKING UP SHIT

>>17689607
nice, I will take one pls

>>17689682
How else are you gonna explain this? She is literally the biggest VTuber in the world

>>17689632
STFU you falseflagging piece of shit, stop trying to delegitimize the cull by making random garbage up

>>17688474
Because they are salty bitches. EN and ID gold is cool by me. Its actual numbers discussion instead of more shit posting and timeloops.

>>17689766
yeah dude, she actually has 100k live viewers right now, and i can tell with my magic crystal ball, since i decided that the ratio of likes between jap and en youtubers is actually 1:3, which really means she has 3 times marine's viewership from yesterday

>>17689787
?? Plz explain to me how the CCV stayed exactly in 15k the entire stream

>>17689876
baka Gura has 200k views now because you got to take into account that VODs after stream is her actual CCV

>>17689910
The cull exists it is fucking obvious, but you pulling random numbers out your ass just makes people deny it more

>>17689766
You can state the simple fact : EN is getting culled.
This is true, the mechanism behind users being flagged was never removed, YT seems dead-set of keeping it in some way.
You CANNOT make claims as to what their actual numbers might be, because we have no idea what actual % of users are being flagged, and any guesses are just wild guesses.
At best, you could go and compare the same game from before December 20th and today and take a stab at how much is missing like I did with Kiara earlier (She was missing at least 1.5-2k viewers since her floor for MC is like, 7k). and even then I take that with two scoopfuls of salt and acknowledge its just an approximation using past data of THE SAME PERSON'S STREAMS of THE SAME GAME.

lol
lmao even

>>17690020
Never has it been stuck at a certain number range like this and refused to go up or down

>>17689910
Yes, even when people are leaving for Q, it's still 15k for quite a while until the outro page.
This can only be explained if there were more than 15k in reality but the visual is capped at 15k.

>>17689833
kys schizo, you dont want to discuss nothing, you just want to shit the thread even more

>>17690088
looks like a20k premier
what is the issue?

>>17689983
oh fuck i forgot, and since there's absolutely no one who starts watching after the archive is up during processing, really she had 300k live viewers, matches up with her vods right?!?
i love imaginary numbers

>>17690105
No shit and you didn't even read what I said

>>17690130
more waiting than watching the collab.

>>17690088
Gura is so strong!

CalliGura KING 13:00 JST 27K ccv 4.14M in the first week

How is the Q waiting room compared to Reflect and King?

>>17690088
>>17690255
Weak number, kuzuha had like 70k watching his premiere

>>17690234
So you are not denying there was a hard cap? Good

>>17690308
Yet he couldn't beat Reflect

>>17690307
KING 27K REFLECT 36K

>Premiere original song of top 2 subbed vtubers
>only 23k
Kek. Actual numbers speak of decline

>>17690245
oh yeah
24k waiting btw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-wDgxGCj4g
Stinky's cover is doing poorly. 2 days and only 370k. Barely 40k since the last time I checked. It's really slowing down.

>>17690307
>>17690389
Oh, I mean the end ccv

>>17690163
Gura gave us a processing vod who couldn't be watched by vodfags and you schizos pretend it didn't exist

>>17690389
Reflect release was WILD. Just dropped super early because Gura basically went "DROP IT. DROP IT NOW!" to her manager out of anxiety.

>>17690388
>>17690389
I HATE THIS THREAD ON EN HOURS
CAN BURGERS STOP MAKING SHIT UP

>>17690499
You assume its just burgers anon, but there are plenty of ES shitposters around at this time too.

>>17690448
mori debuff

>No English subs for the Japanese parts
Absolutely retarded.

>>17690743
She's asking you to be Japanese.

>>17690743
that is..
Yea wtf? That's just idiocy. I mean, I know they'll get them up eventually but it should have been fucking DONE for release!

>Gura sing all them Jap lyrics
GURA IS HONORARY JP
SWBJ

ok time to bet
1M when?
i say 2-3 days. it doesnt have the first song buff or is a cover of king.

>>17690163

>>17691404
23 hours
screencap this

>>17691404
1 day anonchama

>>17690088
SHOESONNN!!!

>>17691404
Yea. I'm not feeling it. The animation was great, but between odd choices on mixing and generally how it sounds, and the lack of subtitles for the JP parts and being on Mori's channel, I don't think this breaks Reflect or King's run to 1m.

>>17691404
Probably won't be as fast as those 2, but it's only 2:30, which makes it good for looping and the MV is good looking.
I'm guessing 14-16 hours.

Still won't get 1 million in 2 days. No first song buff, it sucks, and no one advertised it. It'll be lucky to get 1 million in a week.

>>17691404
Its going to have good growth from the people involved and the mv so I bet less than a day for 1M but I doubt it's going to have the long term legs.

>>17691521
Damn bots are getting super advanced if they can leave a like before a view is counted.

>>17691404
it can be under 24 hours by the virtue of it's only 2 minutes.

Gura put the song in her main page playlist. She's actually shilling for once. Hilarious because she also has a cover playlist but no matsuri/chicken cover

>>17691620
>the MV is good looking.
Is this the equivalent of Kiara's goodbye sengen?

>>17691813
It's like 100x better

>>17691766
Well yup, this is interesting for Gura

>>17691813
I'm conservatively betting on twice the fame

>>17691766
That's going to help a lot. Don't think it'll set a record for 1 million, but I'm going to put a bet on 15 hours

>>17690453
Lower than Suisei's Lower huh
https://youtu.be/1KUZHKI-BDk

Can this be the next FOTM ?

Song was good and the music video was amazing. This will do very well. Ignore the schizos bitching about japanese lyrics and all that. That didn't stop reflect or King, lol. Don't think it will beat Reflect but 1 million in under a day easily.

>>17692360
no
deco27 genuinely dropped the ball here

Q is a banger

>>17692539
I don't speak wigger. Is it a song or not? Can it be considered music? Or is it "music"

>>17692360
People won't be covering it like a FoTM vocaloid song, but it's going to do very well.
Song is catchy af and it actually sounds vocaloid-y so it's more palpable to the JOPs too.

>>17692386
The issue is LACK OF SUBTITLES for the JP parts. I don't mind the fact that there's Japanese that much, but the baffling lack of subtitles on release still gets me.
IMO the song and singing are...well, its more a 7/10 for me on that front, not an 'utter disaster' or anything but not the strongest performance.
This thing will be carried primarily off of the strength of the MV.

>>17692076
At least Q is short enough to loop

>>17692539
it's not.

>>17691766
but no matsuri/chicken cover
I genuinely think she just forgot that the cover exists.

>>17692360
FOTM as a non-vocaloid song is difficult.
Just like Ado's cover, people prefer originals.

>>17692324
Get something else as comparison

Gura trending btw

>>17692360
>English rap
Yeah... No.

>>17693021
s c r e e n s h o t motherfucker.

could you please move faster

>>17693149
All me btw

>>17692711
Nobody except for you fucking cares you ass blasted piece of shit. Nobody reads that anyway and who gives a fuck about the lyrics. Just listen to the music and enjoy. Fucking hell.

>>17693021
the fuck why is Gura trending but not Calli lol?