/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://youtubeliveen.soraweb.net/ex/バーチャルYouTuber
>https://mix.live-ranking.com/?keyword=バーチャルYouTuber

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/jwfivCFB

>>17629531
sauce

>>17629571
[Hizuki Akira] Yokubou Pandora | Lust Pandora

>>17629531
>perfect sweaty chuuba feet

>

Today's superchats

Curious at what numbers HoloEN will get this week since half the crew are unable to stream. Will all the remaining girls incline a bit since theres literally no one else to watch?

is there any chance APEX fad dying? months ago some anons said it's dying...
now Aqua & Kuzuha come back topping the chart with APEX.
god, I hate APEX.

>>17609053
Thats not how thing work Because hololive was not big back then, unlike the pink doog pekora was not known, she had less then 5k in her debut meanwhile koyori with 180k and everyone knows about her.

>>17630404
It was dying because there were no interesting events, now there are interesting events both in the west and japan. Toast's tournament really brought the buzz back to the game.

>>17630404
queen of apex returns
king of apex returns
apex saikou!

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i_TLQsaAgU

With Finana's original song reaching 300K views, what is ahead of it numbers wise (apart from songs in the Nijisanji World channel)?

>>17630594
how does it have that many views wtf

>>17630513
1 holo mogging everyone. Seem normal even with the culled.

>>17630594
In terms of NijiEN? Millie's Marshall Maximizer is the biggest one at 416k. Still has to pass Elira's Goodbye Sengen and Petra's Phony too for now

>similar CCV
>3x the amount of likes
CCVID is getting ludicrous, how can anyone look at a 3x cull and call it fair?

Lamy 8k botw.

LOOOOOOOPING ALREADY!

>>17631036
Good for mumei she taking gura time slot when she not streaming. Others are too scared or something???

>>17631255
wonder if Mumei started earlier because Ina cancelled and to give more space for Bae

Why do EN watchers love to push like?

>>17631121
https://youtu.be/HKcdo-jcoYo

>>17630253
>Ponpoko
BASED

>>17631036
Ramy on her #19 btw, impresive. She def incline this month. Her gaming stream is getting better and better. Her strong point is still zatsudan but she getting good at it.

>>17631597
yeah i don't get it, even normal western streamers don't have those outrageous like to viewer ratio. It literally only happened to EN vtubers.

Number prediction for Bae + Fauna RE8 stream?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS-hnpHKDmc

Currently sitting at 3k waiting room with >10m to go. Bae got pretty good numbers with Outlast so horror games might be her "buff" content even though she's horrible at them

>>17631121
nijishitty got shit number pls understand, must loop

>>17631948
>EN vtubers
more like only holo EN

>>17631592
Would be amazing if she did that. Maybe Mumei realized there's almost no one available to stream this week and that overlapping would be the dumbest thing to do at this point.

Now if they just time their streams for optimal box pushing then it'd be perfect

>>17631592
>>17632097
She started earlier because she has a collab stream tonight with Reine and wanted more than 2 hours to play NSO.

>>17631963
When are horror games not a buff? People love watching that shit and all the cheap kusoge.

HoloEN truly a failure in all the relevant metric.
>Low CCV
>Low SC
And successful for the irrelevant metrics
>High sub count (Useless since they don't watch streams or donate)
>High likes (Useless since it only helps promote VODs to tourist who don't watch streams or donate)
>High VODs (Useless for streamer as CCV and watch time are the only important metric for streams)

>>17631036
I wonder if Lamy looks at EN now and thinks to herself that JP are the real competition.

>>17630594
https://youtu.be/BD6-Jjovz-o
Mogged Enna's original song and Enna is supposed to be NijiEN's best singer. 300k in four days is really really good.

>17632282
Oh fucking great it's the 'ccv is the only thing that matters on YouTube' dumbass.

>>17632282
Meds pls

>>17632316
Enna is retarded about numbers, and her song is unloopable because of the dumb minute long intro.

Mori pls do something stupid again, this thread will thank you by handing over all of our knees

>>17630594
> what is ahead of it numbers wise
It's already closing to 10:1 VOD:like ratio. The growth will slow down significantly.

>Top EN time streamer is Wamy
Every ENs need to step it up

>>17632316
Also you are comparing an EDM song by a hitmaker like Kira to an experimental orchestral piece by Enna's indie friend (not even Diego the other guy). The least she could have done was release it on debut, but she waited like three weeks extra and squandered the hype.

10k for Bae/Fauna RE8 possible?

>>17632630
Finana collab only manage 1.5k.....

>>17632681
Yes horror game is her buff game.

>>17632650
It's a comparison between original songs. Only Enna and Finana have one so there is no other comparison unless you want to compare it to HoloEN.

>>17632714
It was at 2k earlier, Pomu left to prep for her shill stream so it's just her and Nina now, so normal numbers for both

>>17632681
If Mumei ends during the first hour or so of Bae's stream and funnels into Bae then it's definitely possible.

>>17632284
All of myth except Ina have more views, so it's not like she's wrecking them. You got to take that into account and I'd imagine there are other stuff besides numbers that jp's consider impressive.

>HoloEN

>>17632791
Compare it to the originals on the official channels if you want to make equally dumb comparisons. The covers on the livers channels are a fairly equitable comparison to make

>>17632630
>Top EN time streamer is Wamy
>ignoring that Mumei is probably at least 20k going from VODs and likes

>>17629731
o7

>>17633098
I refuse to start the likes timeloop but Lamy has VODs equal if not stronger than Mumei

Slow day today huh?

Gura is reclining for real. I can see it.

>>17630674
Kira buff

>>17633098
check the views retard

>>17630594
LMAO

So this song only has 33k likes while Bae's cover already has 37k likes. It seems obvious to me that this Finana song is being botted. Or will the goal posts be moved from "Its not japanese culture to leave likes" to "Its not Nijisanji culture to leave likes".

>>17631948
Which part of the cull do you not understand

>>17629531
ok, you now have my attention /#/

>>17631036
For fuck sake ramy! Just finished that shit already and go back to morning zatsu

>>17633098
>mumei MUST have AT LEAST 20k its just not fair
Why are owlfaggots like this?

>>17633254
This. KIRA is the biggest name by far when it comes to English language Vocaloid producers. He also worked on this masterpiece which has million of views.

https://youtu.be/Lq9eqHDKJPE

>>17633312
I love Bae's singing too, but it's not going to get numbers hard or fast. Just by the nature of it being a cover, and a long one at that.

>>17633312
Not botted, it's just being looped more IMO.
Again, 6 and a half FUCKING minutes for Bae's cover. No matter what, that's going to mean it's just simply not going to be able to get the same amount of rewatches in the same period of time.

>>17633202
Nigger it's not a timeloop when it's stating facts, the fact of the matter is the HoloEN is getting an inexplicable three times as much engagement as holoJP or really anyone else and no amount of "culture" or retarded dismissals can explain that

>>17631121
I hate you niggers so fucking much

>>17633535
DOUBLE the likes is about the max that's acceptable, if you compare the animator that does EN translated and then just JP for the animations that get similar views.
Even WITH that concession the numbers are still out of line. We know the cull is still active, we know it doesn't hit people the same due to viewers being flagged, so its easily possible lamy's losing only 5-10% and Mumei is losing 30%+.

>>17633535
Mumei has less viewers than Lamy and isn't being culled 3 times harder than Lamy, and no amount of hooman cope will change that fact.

Bae 10k get.

>>17633535
>Murica consumes 10x more pizza per year than Japan
the numbers must be wrong! It's inexplicable that people of one culture could perform an activity so many more times than another

Post HoloES

Just stop taking the bait. What does it matter if someone doesn't believe culls exist?

Bae 10k+ with 5k+ likes. Ramy 8k+ ccv with 5k+ likes. Now do your time loop.

>>17634135
>30 min vs 2.5 hours

>>17633963
This is a shitty analogy and you know it, it's more like this one town in America uses three times as much electricity as any other town of similar size despite there being no outward indicators otherwise

How do we save NijiEN?

>>17634135
Lamy has been streaming for 2 and a half hours

>>17634135
>I don't like it therefore its a timeloop
Fuck you

>>17633406
Kek.

>>17634211
Debut a new male wave.

>>17629731
I've blown my dick out to the loli feet part so many times

>>17634211
Sorry, it's midget hours for NijiEN right now. Come back in several hours.

>>17633312
Or this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjlMPu5sEgw

>>17634135
Please undasutan, niji got totally mogged right now. En gold! En gold!

>>17634135
>>17631121
You are unironically the worst poster in this thread, and I'm including the vod don't matter on youtube schizo

Is it too early to start horny posting for EN gold?

how is the en cope going?

>>17634211
Chinks need to work,wrong timeslot.

>>17634368

>>17634407
I kneel rrat.

>>17633312
>Be a Holofag
>watch the song once
>leave a like

Not rocket science idiot.

>>17634211
NijiEN doesn't need saving. They'll completely demolish HoloEN soon when Mori graduates and join NijiEN bringing her cuckbeats audience with her.

>EOPs click on EN stream
>It's boring
>Leave a like
>get registered as a VOD view
>Proceed to watch other things
OH NO MUH CULLLL

>>17634407
You might want to hold off to not jynx it. One of the NijiHomos might do a stream during SEA time with the stream title of "Send me a red superchat and I'll rub my cock on your cheek while walking you around on a leash"

>>17634211
4k niji en vs 18.5k.
6 vs 2.

>>17631036
Are you really comparing a big meme game to a fucking BotW #17? Guess which one has a bigger chance of some guy dropping by watching 15minutes and leaving?

>>17634211
Release more males.
Embrace weird non-human designs like Debi and dog.

Shed off that Hololive-lite bullshit and be more Nijisanji.

>>17630404
It's eventually dying down, but only because better games pop-up and dethrone the other and so it goes.
By eventually, I don't mean tomorrow, probably not even this year or two ahead.
>Any better contenders?
I remember some anons saying that the F2P Halo would dethrone Apex but that didn't happen and the game has no traditional BR, only an arena gamemode, which is also very broken currently, the 12 vs 12 gamemode doesn't even load.
Some game news say that a BR x MOBA x Horde x FPS massive gamemode it's being worked on for it but until that happens (6 months up to a year) then yeah, there's currently nothing that could really derail Apex apart from... Warzone... and maybe Fortnite... Yeah, everything's going to stay the same for a while, give it a year or two and hopefully the fad will die.
I hope your Oshi doesn't graduate by then.

>>17634558
>>17634407 #
>You might want to hold off to not jynx it. One of the NijiHomos might do a stream during SEA time with the stream title of "Send me a red superchat and I'll rub my cock on your cheek while walking you around on a leash"
Vox Sim4
Luca Rimfit

>>17634555
>there is no cull
Shut up and go fix your website Susan

>>17634497
Mori ain't joining any corpo again with how her current situation seems to be going.

>>17634669
Buff is gone. They ain't reaching 10k anymore.

>>17634720
Kodansha, she is joining TT.

>>17634679
Sure, im gonna recruit Paki instead of Pajeet tomorrow, problem solved.

Boy Susan sure hired quite a few pajeets to shill here today huh

>>17634558
Kek, they really do have the subtlety of a brick don't they? I could totally see this being a stream title for them.

>>17634669
Vox's sims4 is overlapping with Mysta's Heavy Rain.
If he manages to get 12k with it, it'll be more than what he got last time and a very strong showing. (unlikely)

Luca's first RFA got 12k, but these kinds of streams reach diminishing returns quite quickly.

Bae 12k get. Mumei still holding 7.2k.

>>17634764

>>17632939
To be fair Fauna and Rrat are like the last good ones left.

>>17634669
>Vox Sim 4 stream
>Titled: Its time for the gay orgy

>>17634669
Gotta put fujoshit on the table. Admirable in terms of numbers

>>17634764


30min stream vs 2 hours stream

>>17634764
Kanata's stream is 30 mins long, you mongoloid.

>>17634773
Don’t think Kadokawa will pick her up seeing how they have a good business relationship with Cover.
She’s going back to the states due to lack of visa.

Bae 12k? What magic this?
The likes is at 6k tho
Is she unculled now?

Not that hard to have good numbers in this time slot without the gura overlap

>>17634920

>>17634962
They culled her likes now.

>>17634962
>likes steadily increasing
>ccv doesn't move at all
No

>>17634999
stop shitposting on this Indonesian rice milling forum and go fix your website Susan

>>17634986
>25k likes, 26k peak
It's a long ass stream, but seeing as Kuzuha's is at 15k likes, Daruma has a pretty dedicated fanbase for an Apex JOP streamer.

>>17634962
no, it might be her audience doesn't use likes as much. She's probably holding ~30k right now

>>17634211
From what? Their SC numbers are almost equal to Hololive. They are happy and having fun. Millie was talking recently how great she feels now and has more money she knows how to spend while before she was struggling and eating cheap trash to survive.

Now look at HoloEN. Drama, shitstorm, drama, shitstorm and half of the members barely streaming or venting frustration on roommate accounts. I like most of HoloEN girls but management needs to fucking go or they are going to collapse.

>>17635005
You do realize some people leave streams right? Likes will increase the longer the streams go on. CCV relies on viewer retention

>>17634962
If any of the EN girls get unculled, I’d rather it be Bae

>>17635074
nice head canon

>>17634490
sad cope

>>17635162
Nice cope. They are pulling two times better numbers than when Lazulight debuted. NijiEN is on a constant rise and they are not stopping. Even this thread never expected costume reveals to hit 16k.

>>17635051
>30k
Why not make it bigger? Make it 100k anon. The state of this thread and just coming up with imaginary numbers

>>17635075
Go fix your website Susan

>>17635162
>>17635205
Cute salt

Post chumb

>>17635005
Redditors watch 10 minutes, leave a like and go away.

Bae's chance at her peak is the 30-40 min window when Mumei ends her stream and before she starts her Minecraft collab with Reine.
12k is already more than I expected tho honestly.

>>17635074
>Drama, shitstorm, drama, shitstorm
>venting frustration on roommate accounts
Both of these is just one person.

>>17635267
sad cope

>>17635397
Kiara did it too before.

>>17635351
>12k is already more than I
Of course you do enfag

>>17635312
Is that the memo you pass around internally to excuse the broken piece of shit that is your website?

>>17635431
She streamed once, for her b-day.
Mori is intended to basically start up regular streaming on her roommate. Big fucking difference.

>>17635467
Keep coping.

>>17635552
How much is Susan paying you?

>>17635510
Yes but both were venting at management being shit.

>>17635510
She literally said and emphasized it would be rare/infrequent.

>>17635579
Are you stupid or just pretending?

>>17635397
It always amuse me that both Hololive's troublemakers are burgers.

>>17635616
So just regular HoloEN streaming then.

>>17635596
Anonchama? Kiara vented about her past idol management, not Cover.

>>17635351
Mumei won't really affect Bae. People who watch Fauna and Mumei heavily overlap with each other, but not with other Council viewers, whereas the rest of Council (if we bother to include Sana) overlaps far more within itself than with Fauna or Mumei.
Plus, Mumei isn't going to funnel viewers into Bae's much larger stream.

>>17635510
Seems it more to stream games that she couldn't because of permissions

>>17635691
She vented about both.

>>17635596
Mori's problem is because of her own stupidity though

>>17635732
So she made that Twitch account for nothing. Sounds dumb as fuck

>>17635746
Yes but management being retarded and having them on a leash is affecting members. Just look how much more are JP Holos allowed to do.

>>17635732
I wonder if she’ll start neglecting her Hololive account so she can play Persona as her roommate.
Kson was always good at balancing streaming as both.

Amelia SHOULD leech Aqua with APEX

>>17635312
>Redditors
It's not just redditors, though. A lot of people have no attention span to watch anything longer than 3 minutes. That's why Tiktok got popular, that's why youtube have shorts now.
It's stupid to keep insisting that ccv and likes are always related.

>>17635816
like what? where do you retards even come from

>>17635816
And now becase of her own stupidity, they will put on tighter leash. Good fucking job.

>>17635885
>Aqua solo collab with a language barrier
DYRB

>>17635804
Twitch doesnt suddenly grant you perms for games Cover doesn't have permission for.

>>17635816
It's a good leash.

>>17635804
She used that account to donate to Connor and then never touched it again.
Sounds like afterwards she just decided to do roommate streams instead.

>>17636048
I guess that 5% will be 2% now. Cuckbeats stay losing

Will they revoke her visa if she graduate?

>>17635816
>Yes but management being retarded and having them on a leash is affecting members. Just look how much more are JP Holos allowed to do.
Well,things changed after this.Never thoutht they could play yab simulator,i expect Mumei playing Aoe2 soon.

>>17634407
Reminder that a furry made this art.
I know, I'm mad too

>>17636226
Absolutely. Cover has no reason to sponsor someone who doesn’t work for them anymore.

>>17635645
t. Pajeet shill

>>17634211
should just graduate all the female and invest more in homos

>>17635931
Here's an idea, how about instead of damage controlling on 4chan you go and put hat effort into fixing your broken website instead

>>17635732
holy crap why japan bureaucracy so damn useless?
well at least she can play atlus and konami games now

Kson also sitting at 2k likes for 1k ccv BTW.

>>17636819
>1k-2k
this is mori's future

Hey guys, I just figured out what CCV means!

Just a reminder folks, if it's ESL and around these hours, it's almost certainly someone who speaks ES as their primary language shitting things up around these hours.
DO NOT TAKE THE BAIT.

>>17637001
do you really think retards will ever learn?

>>17635397
Kek this is new EN is now 10 Callis

>When JP got CCVID, they got higher likes than CCV
>The cull is real
>CCVID is fixed for JP
>haha it's just different culture
Why are JPfags like this?

>>17637390
Because they keep getting (You)s and responses.

>>17637390
How have you not realized this /#/ is just a shitposting thread about metrics?

>>17637209
>Calli
Go back

>ENs getting CCV culled
>JPs getting vods and likes culled
Just the way I see it

>>17637390
Didn't condone it then, won't condone it now.

>>17637390
Anon if you want real numbers, look at covers quarterly reports. Anything here is just shitposting.

>>17637390
Why can't EN shitters just accept that the no one cares about your Western Vtubers anymore

>>17637664
Ywnbj

>>17637664

>>17637390
Did you forget about poll numbers? That's a more likely reason to believe in the cull.
No one should really care about easily inflated likes numbers.

>>17637184
Nope

>>17637886
I mean....at this point the only people who deny that there's CCV fuckery are shitposting trolls. The exact EXTENT of the culls is completely unknown and will vary from stream to stream and audience to audience due to it being USER ACCOUNTS being flagged. Beyond that, its just attempts at approximations and wild guesses.

Hakos is still holding the Gold with 12k. She's stable here and the graph seems healthy, unlike Gura's yesterday. The likes still below the CCV, so I think she's fixes, Gura's likes were already 15k at this point of time iirc.

>>17637664
Because we aren't paid by Susan

>>17637802
>I'm Tom Cruise
I could live with this.

I will just believe that JP likes are getting culled and everyone who denies it are trolls

>>17637886
Same with likes. They open stream, vote then leave the stream

>>17638165
No really how much is Susan paying you?

>>17638081
Cumbuds are easiest to get flagged since Gura's chat activity is very high

>wake up
>go into /#/
>200 replies
>it's literally the likes timeloop again

fuck you

>>17638614
I bet they're the same people too since it's always around this time where they bring up the metrics. I'm still a firm believer that this thread should hornypost to distract all the shitposts.

>>17638433
0, Susan is using my wage to poach Poki

>>17638758
pretty sure it's always the same dude because he has done nothing but shit on lamy for a week, it's either gen5 schizo or a clone

>>17638436
I wonder if Gura's high sub growth is already proving that CCV and watch-time are highly unreliable right now.

/#/ is declining.

>>17639005
Sub growth has nothing to do with either, retard

If # is declining this much, I feel like /vt/ might be a desert within the next 2 years.

>>17639155
Awwww, are you triggered? Wanna lick my nipple?

Mumei your numbers... Stop collabing with ID...

So is it safe to say that with the style of content they come out with that if you are a male who watches Luxiem that you are gay?

>>17639545
Of course

>>17639457
Nah, Hololive loves doing interbranch collabs. That just isn't something you see from Nijisanji and I'm sure that is a big reason why Niji's foreign branches have all failed so hard.

>>17639545
If you're watching Vox or Mysta during their fem-baiting streams and enjoy it, you miiiiiggghhhhttt be a bit gay. or Female. During normal streams? Nah.

is gura still the king?

>>17639735
>Ignores the fact that NijiEN has collabed with KR, ID and JP members
Come the fuck on now anon, I don't even watch them and know they do collab with the other branches.

>>17639812
They don't do normal streams. The gay shit is ingrained into everything they do.

>>17632791
Elira does have Trail and Error for the palette series. Finana also did Virtual Strike. Its hard for any side branch to get inside the top ten utamita rankings for NijiSanji. Everyone makes the weekly pickups tho.

>>17639847
Always has been

>>17639863
One special event every six months is hardly comparable when its a constant thing with Hololive.

>>17639735
huh? man, i don't even watch nijis and i know that the pink hair and the penguin that everyone hates for some reason collab with nijijps

Aqua APEX is guaranteed to be top 5 at the minimum, right?

>>17639955
>penguin that everyone hates for some reason
>she is in NijiEN
>for some reason
Anon, anybody with a shred of intelligence and taste hates everybody in NijiEN.

>>17638614
>I don't like it therefore its a timeloop
Kill yourself

https://youtu.be/Gzsa_B-9mOc
300k in a day as usual
Double dipping is really harmful for her numbers, both of the streams she did earlier in the day are sub 300k still

>>17640103
i mean, when i go through the catalogue i notice she shares a split with fucking anya, so i just guessed something went wrong there

>Open thread
>Timeloop schizos
>close thread

>>17640016
So far it got gold every single time except yesterday, which was a silver.

>>17640199
Yeah, tell me about it. I actually watch Anya occasionally and would frequent that thread. However I can't share a space with a dirty Nijinijgger so I can't go there anymore.

>>17640191
>3.7m subs
>only 300k

>>17640200
You forgot the step where you took the time to post an image faggot.

>>17640191
serious sam is a debuff game
should drop the double streams and just stream one game for 4-5 hours

>>17640199
It was a joke split that somehow stuck.
A lot of splits had to combine because schizos kept trying to bump /hlgg/ or felt the need to make 30 drama threads.

>>17640191
>5 hours
>30k

It looks bit low for her...

>>17640255
the schedules from both companies have been relative "light" and non-special events so they can't contend with Aqua. Pekora is eating her bucket carrots on stream tonight. I think she will get around 26-29k since her eating streams usually does pretty well. Rushia is doing a reverse totsu with clubhouse games so I expect to see around 24-27k. Aqua will get her usual 33k+.

>>17640199
It was simply a matter of thread survival, neither of them have enough viewers to keep a thread alive alone so they just grouped up after someone joked they where similar.

>>17640705
Pissed off a lot of Hololive fans too since no respectable HoloCHAD wants to share a space with dirty Nijiniggers.

>>17640505
It’s similar in numbers to something like Pekora’s DQ streams (usually 300k in about 7hrs in recent times with people watching the vod over the days), but even those get 16-17kavg/20-22k. Gura was dropping to sub 10k in that Serious Sam stream so it actually still falls in like with the whole idea of her missing half/more than half her audience right now.

>>17640772
^ Sorry couple of typos
16-17k avgs/20-22k peaks
Falls in line*

Hetto beat Hoshikawa to 700k. Laplus passed Hima, but the sub gap between her and Ui-mama is still the same as one week ago, so she's not likely to catch back up that soon.

good start.

Slow day huh

>>17632282
Meds anon...

niji month? theres 4th anniversary events and shit

Ironmouse beat Ange and Risu to 600k. Ange got to 599k and so did Otaku-Vs, which had been inactive for 5 months but uploaded a video 4 days ago. That puts all of them ahead of Risu, who was ahead of Ange and Mouse before.

>>17641070
>no holo debut anniversaries
>choco, aki, okayu, bae bday (all low-mid tier)
>pekora reclined
>30k-40k daily max capped
going to be a good month

https://twitter.com/SiuLee2434/status/1488859750515486721

https://twitter.com/KoYami2434/status/1488859750989451265

Meanwhile on the news front, nijiKR loses another two members

>>17641111
Ota-chan...

>>17641231
Riku just cant stop losing huh

>>17634764
21k doxxfag, that's impressive.

>>17641282
Kr is just a walking carcass now, between the utterly incompetent and possible actively malicious management and the mass graduations I wouldn't be surprised if they go the way of nijiIN by the end of the year.

And this isn't even going into the slander accusations

>>17641231
>NijiKR loses two members
>Cover makes HoloKR twitter account

What are the odds?

HoloEN: 15,883
NijiEN: 12,713

>>17641231
ANYCOLOR's expansion strategy back then was to emulate the ID model and let the locals who have more expertise in their own market manage the branch. That backfired big time because KR's management is incompetent, and, most importantly, racist. They were never on board the Nijisanji train nor liked the idea of being owned by a Japanese company, hence why you see all the half Koreans and nijiKR's who managed to get successful by appealing to nips graduate

>>17641282
It's his birthday today. Can he beat Yagoo for trending on twitter?

Didn't someone say streaming twice in a day is bad for the algorithm or something?

>>17641542
Sounds dumb. Pink Lamy and Blue Lamy frequently double streams and they are on the incline. Have you been listening to the retarded ENfags again?

>>17641542
Bad for VOD views since the videos are long and many people will just watch the most recent one.

Kronii twitter space at 3.5k right now

>>17641358
Unculled 21k

>>17641542
It is if you're already ahead in the algorithm with immense views like Gura has. Retards comparing her to shitters like Koyori and Lamy who can't even get a 10k average unculled are missing the point.

>>17641482
It's pretty hard for nijiKR talents now after their biggest money maker left. It affirms my theory that overseas branches are running on performance-based. You get more if you do more. You get less if you do less. NijiEN got a lot of game permissions, and was allowed to regardless if it's explicit or implicit. They are also allowed to do whatever they want since their image wouldn't have an impact at all to the main branch. These leeches to vtubing only cares to min/max the amount of money they can earn.

>>17641469
holy shit Niji really closed the gap huh

>>17641469
Luca ringfit recling hard.

>>17641451
They already have holokr twitter, just need to reactivate it. I wonder if cover is still as opportunistic and ambitious as they used to be, they focus hard on china with jp at first.

>>17641070
>>17641070
Maybe. A bunch of Holo,mostly JPs. will not be streaming also as they will be doing their idol reps for next month's event.

>>17641469
+5k people witching Kronii's twitter space.

>>17641542
I said streaming twice in quick succession is bad for the algo, which it is

>>17641482
Anyway this is why cover buying out isegye is a bad idea, they should do it from the ground up like they did ID and EN

Holos should try Tiktok live if theirPC broke down

It's been nearly a day since Chloe released her cover but it's only getting 250k. Definitely underperforming considering it's a fairly popular fotm song and it's her first cover too.

>>17641999
the tradition is to revert back to twitcasting
lately twitter space have worked better

>>17641961
After CN, they will never let a third party manage their branches (the chink managers tried to back stab Cover hard).

Kronii's number(?)

>>17641999
>tiktok
Lol no, if you think youtube payouts are bad, tiktok is basically highway robbery
Also, you know, chinks

>>17642140
Still not stop increasing.

>>17642176
>chinks
Hololive is already on tiktok.

>>17642176
https://www.tiktok.com/@minatoaqua_hololive/video/7044480059163315458

>>17641231

Yami?! jesas. She debuted like, 5 months ago... if the branch continues like this it's not going to exist by the end of the year

>>17642277
Apparently KR management kneel to one of the 2 views who is the source of all the drama and bullying in the branch. She's currently being taken to court by a graduated KR member apparently.
At this point just kill the branch and absorb them into one of the other branches.

>>17641231
That was reported across multiple threads yesterday already.

>>17641451
Cover has had a HoloKR twitter since 2020.

>>17641749
NijiKR consumed another agency that was failing but kept the management that caused that agency to fail. That is the primary reason NijiKR is imploding so badly, its grossly mismanaged.
There was also a lot of drama brought in by that group with an outside 2view and it soured a lot of their potential viewership on the entire branch.

Why are gooks like this?

>>17642384
If it's like virtualreal, higher management is probably offpakoing with said girl.

>>17642412
Judging from the reactions in this thread it needs to be posted one more time

Does investors know of all the shit behind Niji's overseas branch or are they entirely focused on the main branch and the sweet things shown on a presentation slide? If anything, Anykara as an entertainment company has done some shitty management things, as if they're trying to make Hololive looked good.

>>17642697
the only investors they care about are the ones from bilibili

>>17642697
Anykara mostly focuses on the JP branch during their company notes iirc

>>17641538
Nah. Riku memes are sooo 2018/19. Some irrelevant EN tryna revive it is just cringe

>>17642484
Not to mention racist, pretty much all the talents who are graduating are either ones who've gotten big from appealing to nips (Bora, selly) or are half nip themselves. NijiKR management never liked being part of the nijisanji umbrella and only really took the deal because it was either that or bankruptcy, and it shows

>>17642042
Overshadowed by miComet's Animal maybe

Luca's Ringfit was kind of underwhelming tonight and they couldn't hit 10k yesterday despite both Mysta and Vox streaming. The Fujos are going to remain loyal but it seems like the debut tourists are beginning to leave. Their numbers will probably stabilize around 6-7k on the high end and 3-4k on the low end.

>>17642697
As long as nijisanji keeps making money they don't really care what happens to parts of the company. Remember they were actively looking for new venture capitalists when they shut down yumeography, hence the narrative that they only shut it down because some high value investors thought it looked too much like a virtual soapland to put money down

>>17642263
>https://www.tiktok.com/@cocomin11/video/7052289299739364610?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1
LMFAO this has 8.9 mil views and what's happening in it has nothing to do with Aquairo Palette.

>>17642042
Is it beating Baelz or not? Since Baelz cover has EN tag buff

>>17642042
Animal is a shit Fotm. When will we get another KING or Goodbye Sengen?

So Kronii is above 7k and still rising on an unannounced twitter space. What does this tell us about how much they are being culled on youtube?

>>17643109
>not 30k
Where are the 3x cull anons?

>>17643106
>Animal is a shit Fotm.
I think most people don't know it took Okayu like 10 days to get to 1 mil and it was one of the first covers for it.
MiComet's cover blowing the fuck up gave people false expectations on how well animal covers usually do.

USA

>>17642954
https://www.tiktok.com/@minnatomo3/video/7056036638861970690?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1

LMAO WTF

>>17642954
>>17643370
It became a meme a couple months ago, that's why she got a boost even while she was on break

>>17643301
>miComet's Animal
Its already at 1.5 million in less than a week. The true power of business partners.

I think the JP record for views in a single week is Ayame's Goodbye Sengen with 1.7 million. I don't think miComet Animal will catch it but the fact that it came so close is probably not something people expected.

>>17643535
Yeah, but these 2 most popular Tiktoks are like 2 weeks old.

>>17643370
>21 million views
>688k likes
>47 comments
Not going to lie, this shit looks botted as fuck, but i have no idea how Tiktok works.

>>17642954
I dont think this is how you use/ this song...

>>17643049
EN tag buff is subjective because Bae cover is going the way of her halloween cover. Finana's original got the boost that her KOKIA cover would have gotten. Chloe's Animal already surpassed Bae cover. Pomu got it worse tho because Chigusa's God-ish cover lept over her in like 2 days. MilliEnna Identity cover is holding strong tho.

>>17643362
I'll update for you

>EN gold

>>17644356
Me on the left

I wonder if Cover allows a novelist to be into Hololive. They have the basic skill set of streaming, singing and gaming but their real talents should be in writing stories. They'll debut with the first 15 chapters of the novel, isekai hopefully, to hook in viewers into reading it. They'll release new chapters every week, keeping fans engaged into the story. For every significant chapter, SCs rain in on the next stream. For every ending of an arc, SCs rain in. As an added bonus, he/she could try coming up the features of the MC with viewers in a drawing stream. A failed season novelist might have their career fly to the moon if they went into Hololive to publish and write a story.

>>17643651
>Riding ball
So this is the reference of sexy stream 4 in NSO

>>17643651
Tiktok is like the worst parts of youtube and twitter algo put together and given crack, you basically can't get past a certain amount of views unless you pay, and if you do pay it'll shove your video into the front page of everyone who uses the app. And there's also a bunch of blackbox fuckery that makes it such that which video goes viral is completely determined by the guys in charge rather than what people are interested in.

>>17644471
If the rrats are true and they hired Sana with the primary intention of drawing art assets for their upcoming game then I don't see why not. Using one spot out of the 5 you hire for a generation to be an experimental chuuba or a "background work" chuuba isn't a terrible idea.

>>17644471
I don't know, maybe you should pitch it to cover and see what they think

>>17644471
Writing literature is way too time consuming to be a form of main content imo.
NijiJP has a light novelist IIRC and they could do it because there's 100+ NijiJPs so their absence isn't noticed.

>>17644471
No, it's retarded. Leaving aside how text based content always gets lower engagement than usual, you're basically cutting out a huge chunk of your audience due to writing in a language they can't read, and also you're asking cover to branch out into the publishing business too in addition to everything else they are already juggling. It just won't work.

https://twitter.com/ytcreatorsjapan/status/1489048493922693123

Membership gifting now in testing on some channels

>>17635936
That was chink's talking point. You must have missed that Note page

https://twitter.com/ytcreatorsjapan/status/1489048493922693123
Gifted memberships are here

>>17644770
>>17644744
>publishing business
Not saying they should branch out as a publishing business. The vtuber could just be an online novelist and update their novel once a week on a site. It isn't too time consuming for seasoned novelists that's been around for years, writing stories online. Chinese & Korean english translated novels got tens of thousands of readers every week because they have tropes that could reel anyone into reading them.

>>17644902
>>17644979
From FBK

>Bae streaming everyday sometimes twice a day
>said she isn't going to be shy about being a total shill in promoting her original song
Why can't they all be like Bae. Imagine the numbers.

>>17644902
>>17644979
I have no idea why this exist since YT has superchats. Are we going to see people begging for memberships on chats?

https://twitter.com/holostarstv/status/1489101410432352256
https://twitter.com/holostarstv/status/1489101410432352256
https://twitter.com/holostarstv/status/1489101410432352256

>>17645267
Youtube doesn't have a clue about how streaming works and is just apeing what twitch does.

>>17645152
>Imagine the numbers
There will be no numbers until Youtube fix their shit

>>17644902
>>17644979
good bye... comfy member streams...
good bye... polls with valuable voters...
good bye... bypassing the chat limit on slowmode by being a member... (because there will be a shitton more chatters spamming and holos will change it so it's on global cooldown)
hello, more spam viewers...

>>17645492
I think they can turn off that feature if we assume it works like Twitch's

>>17644902
>>17644979
here is my question, can I buy 500 subs in ARS? because sub-prices are based on the one who buys them

>>17645492
Stupid too since we have reports of people being members but being shadowbanned. It makes sense on twitch but not on youtube.

>>17645142

https://twitter.com/shirakamifubuki/status/1489122778293092354

And FBK just said she will be giving out memberships randomly lol

>unclock membership features
>right when cover is going to make a move on the MCN or whatever it's called
>and the services are going to be unstable/disabled for 3 days
bad timing

>>17645801
Based friend

https://youtu.be/mWPLv_HWocY

10 minutes!!!

>>17645801

FBK channel already got the test version. People on her Free chat are gifting out memberships

https://youtu.be/mWPLv_HWocY
https://youtu.be/mWPLv_HWocY
https://youtu.be/mWPLv_HWocY
IT'S ORI SONG TIME

>new
>41
azki....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aetXqd9B8WE
Guess the number

>>17644902
livestream raid soon. numberfagbros...

>be loyal to oshi for over a year
>random shitters getting gifted membership
Yeah I wouldn't blame long time members for getting a little salty about it.

>>17640199
the anya petra global is a treasure, i won't allow slander

>>17644356
kek, good one.

>>17647480
i never payed attention to member stuff, but the way twitch does this is that the badge changes depending on how long you pay the sub, so the 1 month gifted shitters get the default badge while long time members/subs get better badges

>>17647480
>Long time members
>caring about basic icon newbies
Membership have different icons so you know the long time members anyway.

>>17647348
Lyrics by DECO* 27 / Mori Calliope
Track by DECO* 27
Arrangement by Rockwell
Video by riguruma

Damn son

Hmm seems like for now the only people able to send and receive gift memberships are nips

sigh...should have make it different colors to reflect how much the user gifted the memberships. 5 and 20 giftsub with the same color? outrageous.

>>17647851
>DECO*27
HoloEN is going all out with this

>>17647165
Kinda weak this week, aren't they? The top song only has a little under 300k

>>17647348
>Lyrics by DECO* 27 / Mori Calliope
assuming this is all in english... possibly buff
>Track by DECO* 27
buff
>Arrangement by Rockwell
who?
>Video by riguruma
MV for bully and sparks were ok but nothing spectacular. EbiEbiBeam's TGRILS mv was better
>MIX by なつめ千秋
he did pretty well for the king cover, buff?
>Mori channel
neutral leaning toward debuff

doubt it will beat 10hrs 40mins to 1mil. maybe 12-24hrs witht

>>17647997
kek didn't one of watame's song that flopped is by this dude?

>>17648006
Slower in short terms but possibly beats REFLECT 10M milestone ( even Kuzuha's KING)

>>17648046

yeah but the guy also made this so....

https://youtu.be/e1xCOsgWG0M

>>17648116
It's a matter of motivation i suppose.....

>>17645267
Twitch also has bits which is their SC equivalent
>>17642176
Yea, if people aren't aware this is a good video on how broken Tiktok creator monetization is atm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAZapFzpP64

>>17648046
>not knowing DECO*27
Holy newfags

>>17648046
I mean that is more Watame than anything else. DECO*27 is the biggest name in Vocaloid right now so its a massive buff.

Also it was smart as shit of Mori to put DECO*27 in the title of the song since people looking for his stuff will find that too. Very very smart.

Vocaloid producers have huge VOD gap between their own FOTM and normal songs ( like Kanaria )

>>17648190
I....
Fucking hell, do we have a bunch of idiots here? Do they not know who the original artists for a lot of these covers actually are?

Holy fuck lmao, the zhangs took notice of FBK's gifted memberships, they're spamming her free chats right now to get free members.

wow ame holding that 8k strong. Is prime ame back?

>>17648385
Pretty sad actually. She should not have announced it on twitter

>>17648385
kek bugs be bugging

>>17648116
that's not even his best work
old FotM like Hibana and Aikotoba 1/2/3 still get new covers after all these years.
https://youtu.be/hxSg2Ioz3LM

>>17648116
That's kinda peanuts compared to this though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnSW8ian29w

>>17648542
These guys are pretty much the only reason I watched on NND because their songs were not uploaded on Youtube at the time.

>>17648542

Hibana is actually a favorite of mine but yeah. he is like the most consistent vocaloid producer from recent years. pretty crazy how many FotM he produces lol

>>17648542
this one too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv2P0PLz9fw

Keep in mind that Deco*27 is not a singer, the best combo is collab with famous singer like Ado.
Odo is their product https://youtu.be/YnSW8ian29w
Ado x Deco*27 x Giga x....

Will it be faster than Reflect?

https://youtu.be/mWPLv_HWocY
>2 aqua originals in the top10 that aren't even new
3D live buff?

>>17648792
If it was on Gura's channel than I would say yes but seeing as its not I'm going to say no. Still 1 million in less than a day though but it won't break the record.

>>17648792
If it was on Gura's channel, it would have been. The chance is pretty much 50/50 with Mori channel.

>>17648816
TikTok + comeback

>>17648755
That song is like 99% Teddyloid production. Deco just wrote the lyrics, but they could be gibberish with Ado's performance and the song will still be good.

>>17648792
1M? very hard , 10M ? possibly

>>17648792
It's the best chance at "dethroning" reflect we've ever seen so far, that's for sure.

>>17648847
what's Giga doing then? i always feel that Giga is the best one from the lot.

>>17648164
WHEN TIKTOK MAKES MORE, CREATORS MAKE LESS

>>17648915
Providing the drop mainly

>>17648847
Teddyloid is overrated. I like Giga more

>>17648385
Bugmen continue to be bugmen, what else is new?

>>17648947
Yea, it's fucked

>>17648385
they cant get them, only non-brand JP accounts with JP IP can receive a gifted membership right now, and only the above can also buy them.
But that goes out the window when this goes global instead of a small regional test.

So, can we still numberfag members?

Kizuna AI : 2M 591 days
Mori : 1.9M -1.91M 509 days

>>17649171
OH YES ANOTHER SUBS HORSE RACE

>>17649108
Numberfagging members has never been accurate anyways apart from guessing the floor from scraping the chatlog of the opening stream or when they outright say how many members they got (like Pomu and Luca did).
If anything, Luca showed that even scraping the chatlog isn't accurate if they opened membership hours before the membership stream.

Talking about numbers and songs
Do you think the upcoming Kronii's and Bae's songs will surpass the viewership of Mumei's original song or is it to late?

>>17649255
no, i don't think so, kronii's song is bad and bae is always underperforming on the music department.

niki holoen orison when?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D0B3wTjE20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVfp1NPf928

Is Fubuki the only holo with gifted subs enabled so far?

>>17649255
Bae's covers got mogged by Lui-nee. Council is a failure

>>17649398
Watame and Laplus got it too

>>17649302
Is it that bad or just not catchy and replayable, i've only heard the teaser though, still hold out for the MV this week.

>>17649415
Every time you appear the quality of discussion in the thread falls through the floor

>>17649255
>surpass the viewership
What do you mean by "surpass"? Like beat to 1 mil or actually pass it.

>Beat to 1 mil
Kronii? Unlikely, since Daydream has been out on spotify and youtube music for more than a week and it's not really a catchy, loopable song.
Bae? She said she's going to shill the original song every stream this month (so every day), which is good, but Bae is significantly less popular than Mumei, especially when it comes to music.

Despite the shitposting here about how slow it was, A New Start got to 1 mil in 12 days, which is faster than Palette, Yoi no Yo, Yoi (Ayame's original), Weather Hackers...etc. It wasn't slow by Holo Original standards.

>Actually pass it
Who knows? Mumei is going to have around a 1.3mil views ahead of both, which is quite significant.

>>17649454
Damm even Watame... of all talents.

>>17649493
>just not catchy and replayable
It's like a game OST track and not a FoTM vocaloid song.
Not sure what that anon was smoking when he said it's bad.

>>17649499
And yet I'm just telling the truth

>>17649499
Better than the likes loop

>>17649318
HoloEN would rather have some random sea songwritter than a legit vocalo-p to write their songs

>>17649706
No it really isn't

>>17649708
or Mori herself

>>17649706
Naw, Council timeloops are infinitely worse

>>17649318
only when Kronii covers -ERROR or グラーヴェ

>>17649706
not even close

>>17649828
>Discuss Council
>be mad Councils get shit on
ENfags can't take that Gura and Mori are the only ones carrying their branch

>>17649962
Yep, through the fucking floor